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Speaker 2: was in there this morning with another nutritious breakfast for
Speaker 2: my children, giving them just a you know, frozen sugar.
Speaker 2: I mean that's really what it is. The fizz freeze
Speaker 2: so delicious, and they never got bored with the fist freeze,
Speaker 2: but they're now. And it kind of reminds me of
Speaker 2: my childhood, because did you ever get a fountain drink
Speaker 2: like when you were a kid at a restaurant and
Speaker 2: mix like five different sodas? Oh?
Speaker 3: I always thought that was gross. I never did that.
Speaker 2: Knowing your you know your style when it comes to
Speaker 2: eating drinking. Yeah, yeah, I'm not totally surprised, and honestly
Speaker 2: you're not wrong, like I think, I mean, that would
Speaker 2: never be.
Speaker 3: Like people would call it a suicide though that was
Speaker 3: the slive term for it.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so wow that you really just did something
Speaker 2: great for me because bit yeah, but like I was
Speaker 2: for sure that you're so much younger than me that
Speaker 2: there's no way that was the thing when you were
Speaker 2: growing up too. But but it is so yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: my first experience with suicide, which you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's what we called it, but like you know, that's
Speaker 2: probably not a It wouldn't be acceptable today exactly, kind
Speaker 2: of like when we would run sprints in basketball, Like
Speaker 2: I think people who played sports know what a suicide is,
Speaker 2: where you start on the inline and go to the
Speaker 2: free throw line back, half court back, other free throw
Speaker 2: line back. You know, we change. In fact, when I
Speaker 2: was in high school, I don't know if it was
Speaker 2: because our co which was just trying to you know,
Speaker 2: establish a culture, as most coaches do when they take over,
Speaker 2: we went from those being called suicides to calling them
Speaker 2: eagle sprints. And I don't remember if it was because
Speaker 2: we were PC and it was in a new world,
Speaker 2: or if that's just what we called them, but either way,
Speaker 2: I remember after a basketball game when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: when I played like little league basketball, we go to
Speaker 2: the concession stand and you get like a free drink
Speaker 2: after every game at the Blue Lick Optimist Basketball League,
Speaker 2: and all the kids were doing it, and you would
Speaker 2: and at this time, you know you and I'm sure
Speaker 2: most like concession stands, you're not getting your own drink.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe you are, but like we would
Speaker 2: tell the lady working the concession stand like we all
Speaker 2: wanted suicides, and sure enough, she'd fill these little cups
Speaker 2: up with like five different soft drinks. And I drank
Speaker 2: one really quick one time, and I just threw up everywhere.
Speaker 2: And I never did that. I never did that again.
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure if it had anything to do
Speaker 2: with the combination of a bunch of different sodas or
Speaker 2: if I just chugged it because I was so excited,
Speaker 2: because you know, all the other kids were talking about
Speaker 2: how that's what they do. They don't just get a coke,
Speaker 2: they don't just get a sprite. They get them all.
Speaker 2: But my, my daughter last week, she she got I
Speaker 2: think it might have been the cotton candy fish freeze,
Speaker 2: and it it wasn't. It was working, but it wasn't.
Speaker 2: It was kind of runny, you know, it wasn't. It wasn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't normal. So I ended up just you know,
Speaker 2: pouring it out as best I could. And then I
Speaker 2: got her the Mountain do one, and like it was,
Speaker 2: she could see there was different colors in there, So
Speaker 2: what's moose one? He wants to he wants to mix
Speaker 2: it up too. So now each time we go, you know,
Speaker 2: they're they're mixing like three different flavors of their of
Speaker 2: their slushies, the fist freeze, and uh, you know they're
Speaker 2: enjoying it. Hopefully you know, hopefully there's not a combination
Speaker 2: uh that that could be you know, dangerous, but they haven't,
Speaker 2: you know, they they haven't gotten sick yet. But that
Speaker 2: would be me Like that would be such a me
Speaker 2: story that I I just you know, it's already bad
Speaker 2: enough that I about every other day, I start my
Speaker 2: kid's day with not a nice cup of milk or
Speaker 2: you know, orange juice or something like most kids probably
Speaker 2: are guided to drink or you know, for breakfast, I
Speaker 2: get my kids, you know, slushies, but like I could
Speaker 2: see me get in a call from her school or
Speaker 2: his daycare like yeah, like they've been projectile vomiting the
Speaker 2: last time you've been bringing him in, Like what's going on.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess I should stop giving
Speaker 2: him slushies in general, and mixing a mountain dew and
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Speaker 2: on Sports Talk seven ninety all right, So I guess
Speaker 2: we'll just jump right in here and talk about the
Speaker 2: big news that I would say most Louisville fans have
Speaker 2: been discussing amongst each other since last night. And it's
Speaker 2: not just discussing. I mean there's a lot of people upset, complaining,
Speaker 2: and I get it. I mean I totally totally understand it,
Speaker 2: and I knew eventually it would happen to Louisville because
Speaker 2: I think for the most part, Louisville has been pretty
Speaker 2: lucky when it comes to having a player simply just
Speaker 2: bail because they can. It actually did happen a little
Speaker 2: bit during the pandemic. If you remember Jaban Hawkins and
Speaker 2: even two two out well towards the end, like those
Speaker 2: guys kind of just opted out because the season was gone.
Speaker 2: But I think at that point it was such a
Speaker 2: weird year trying to play football during COVID that you
Speaker 2: didn't really I mean, like they it didn't have anything
Speaker 2: to do with the pandemic, but like because it was
Speaker 2: so unusual, Like that's such a forgotten time in college football,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you. But Colin Lacey, one of
Speaker 2: the top transfers for Louisville, he decided yesterday, or at
Speaker 2: least he notified the staff that he was, that he
Speaker 2: was going to be hanging it up for the rest
Speaker 2: of the season because he's only played in four games.
Speaker 2: And what this does is it gives him a chance
Speaker 2: to extend his college career and play one more season
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. Because he did not play more
Speaker 2: than four games, he sits now he qualifies for a
Speaker 2: red shirt. So I mean, I wasn't at all. So
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't see it coming necessarily. I did
Speaker 2: hear yesterday that there was there was you know, every
Speaker 2: now and then I'll get somebody that sends me something
Speaker 2: that they're getting elsewhere, and whoever they got it from
Speaker 2: is probably getting it elsewhere. But I, you know, and
Speaker 2: I heard that there was going to be some potential
Speaker 2: news about a player. I thought maybe an injury, like
Speaker 2: maybe somebody you know, maybe somebody you know got hurt
Speaker 2: in practice or you know, I didn't really know, And
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, I'm not checked out for
Speaker 2: Louisville football. But like I, you know, at this point
Speaker 2: seven games in, you know, best case scenario, if that
Speaker 2: plays out, you'd still end up having a good season,
Speaker 2: and I think fans would be, you know, super excited
Speaker 2: because if if you somehow go eight and four easier
Speaker 2: said than done, you would have done two things that
Speaker 2: we haven't one and we haven't done in a long
Speaker 2: time when we've never done, so like that's still out there.
Speaker 2: It's just I can't really look at Louisville seven games
Speaker 2: in and say that I expect them to do that
Speaker 2: and run the table from here on out. So again,
Speaker 2: it's not that I'm checked out. I mean, I'm excited
Speaker 2: for tomorrow night's game. But also, you know, what we
Speaker 2: discussed as a possibility far from you know, something we
Speaker 2: should have just expected. But it also wasn't you know,
Speaker 2: a pipe dream to say that you could get back
Speaker 2: to Charlotte. Were there last year, and on paper, I
Speaker 2: think this team looked like they were going to be
Speaker 2: better than they were a year ago. And I still
Speaker 2: think at a lot of positions they are better as
Speaker 2: far as talent and ability. The offense is certainly better,
Speaker 2: but your four and three you are ature record says
Speaker 2: says it is, so you know, With all that said,
Speaker 2: Colin Lacy has decided to opt out not play the
Speaker 2: rest of the season, and it's unclear what he's going
Speaker 2: to do next year. I was told late last night
Speaker 2: that there's not really an expectation that he will be
Speaker 2: back at Louisville next year. Now that doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: they know for sure that he's not coming back. I
Speaker 2: think you know, from from from the person I talked to,
Speaker 2: they'd love to have him back. They would love to
Speaker 2: make it work if possible. But the way these things
Speaker 2: typically play out, I'd say your best bet is that
Speaker 2: he ends up going elsewhere because he's gonna you know,
Speaker 2: he'll have a good anile situation here once again, and
Speaker 2: I assume he likes it here, but he's going to
Speaker 2: be you know, here's here's what I here's here's what
Speaker 2: I predict plays out. And this is not This is
Speaker 2: mean again, I don't think he anybody, even Colin Lacey
Speaker 2: for sure, knows exactly what he's going to be doing,
Speaker 2: you know, the rest of the way here in his
Speaker 2: in his in his college career. But my guess will
Speaker 2: be that he enters the portal but is still considering Louisville.
Speaker 2: He's going to have a whole lot of you know,
Speaker 2: of options, and he'll probably end up getting an offer
Speaker 2: he can't turn down and maybe UFL matches it, or
Speaker 2: maybe they say, look, you know, we we we can't,
Speaker 2: we can't do that, not because they don't have any money,
Speaker 2: but because they just they're going to choose to spend differently.
Speaker 2: So none of us know exactly what happens here. But
Speaker 2: my guess will be that Louisville will be involved and
Speaker 2: do what they can to try to keep him around.
Speaker 2: But maybe, you know, and maybe he does come back,
Speaker 2: or or he decides to, you know, go somewhere where
Speaker 2: they've got more money, and maybe they've got a chance
Speaker 2: to have a much more special I mean again, nobody
Speaker 2: knows at all how the rest of this season, is
Speaker 2: going to finish up let alone next year. But you know,
Speaker 2: if he gets a chance to go play it somewhere
Speaker 2: that is fresh off in appearance in the college football Playoff,
Speaker 2: and the money is similar there as it is here,
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit more like, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: be surprised that all off he ends up leading Louisville
Speaker 2: and never playing another down here. So this is not
Speaker 2: that unusual. In fact, it's I don't want to say
Speaker 2: it's super common, but in the new world of college sports,
Speaker 2: this is how players operate. You know. I know a
Speaker 2: lot of people are calling Colin Lacy a quitter, and
Speaker 2: you know, saying that he quit on his teammates. And
Speaker 2: there's a lot of layers to the gripe that I'm
Speaker 2: hearing as far as just people complaining what you know,
Speaker 2: some are just blaming it all on this kid, saying
Speaker 2: he's a quitter, he quit on his teammates. Some are
Speaker 2: blaming the system, and you know, some are blaming Brahm.
Speaker 2: You know, like, how could this happen? If you'd have
Speaker 2: been better this year, the kid wouldn't have even thought
Speaker 2: about leaving because louisll would be in a you know
Speaker 2: Louisa would be in position to play for the a
Speaker 2: SEC title. So you know, it sucks all the way around.
Speaker 2: And there's a few different specific things that I've heard
Speaker 2: people mentioning when they're you know, griping about it. But
Speaker 2: I'll start with Lacy himself. I'm not I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2: And again, like I get it. I'm not telling anybody
Speaker 2: that they should just accept this and not be bummed.
Speaker 2: And you know, wishing well. I mean, if you wanted
Speaker 2: to do that, that's cool, because you can't control it.
Speaker 2: It's completely out of our control in every way. But
Speaker 2: what I have mentioned here and there, and it's not
Speaker 2: something that's really dominated this show because again it hasn't
Speaker 2: happened to Louisville or even Kentucky for that matter, but
Speaker 2: it's happening elsewhere. Now. With Colin, it's a little bit
Speaker 2: different because he didn't play the first three games this
Speaker 2: year because he was injured. So here he is after
Speaker 2: seven games being able to reset and say, you know,
Speaker 2: I could finish up this season, but I'm not totally healthy.
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent. I'm still shaking off some rust.
Speaker 2: I'm still not myself totally. I already missed out on
Speaker 2: three games this team that I'm playing for, I mean
Speaker 2: in his eyes, and I'm sure he's not referring to
Speaker 2: his teammates and his team as his workplace or his
Speaker 2: employer or his coworkers. But that's what this is now,
Speaker 2: and I think the quicker people just understand that this
Speaker 2: is what it is. Maybe you won't be as bummed
Speaker 2: as you are when you found out the news last night.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think what's happened in college sports. This
Speaker 2: is the way I see it from, you know, an
Speaker 2: aerial view. It's really been transactional for a long time.
Speaker 2: It's always been transactional for coaches. That's why you should
Speaker 2: never believe coaches when they tell you, oh, I'm not
Speaker 2: going anywhere, I'm gonna retire here, you know, like because
Speaker 2: you know that they they do and they may be genuine.
Speaker 2: They may love you, and they may you know, really
Speaker 2: really appreciate their boss, the athletic director, the community that
Speaker 2: they're coaching, and the fan base like it all may
Speaker 2: be genuine, but the reason that they're there in the
Speaker 2: first place is because it's a job. It's transactional, and
Speaker 2: if they get a much better opportunity they're gonna leave
Speaker 2: because you know what, it's a job to them. You
Speaker 2: would probably leave your current job if you could go
Speaker 2: get it much better job that would put you in
Speaker 2: a much better situation for you and your family. But
Speaker 2: we've never looked at college sports that way. It's always
Speaker 2: been that way with coaches for the most part, especially
Speaker 2: in last I don't know, ever since they've been ever since,
Speaker 2: they've been able to make millions upon millions of dollars,
Speaker 2: and it has nothing to do with them actually winning games.
Speaker 2: With players, it hasn't always been transactional, but you know,
Speaker 2: there's always been some things along the way that lead
Speaker 2: to players decide, Like before NIL, before the portal, let's
Speaker 2: be real, I mean, they were choosing schools that gave
Speaker 2: them the best opportunity to get to the NBA or
Speaker 2: the NFL. That's not you getting a paycheck to go there,
Speaker 2: but that's that's the transaction. They're not there because they
Speaker 2: love the fans, and they may end up loving the fans,
Speaker 2: they may really appreciate the fan base they play for.
Speaker 2: But it's always been transactional to an extent, and now
Speaker 2: it's riding your face every day when you follow college
Speaker 2: sports closely. This is all transactional, This is all work.
Speaker 2: This is their job, coaches and players now and we're
Speaker 2: not used to it. And things that used to make
Speaker 2: you love college sports weren't really what you thought they were, right,
Speaker 2: It's not as all for the love of the game
Speaker 2: and playing for the playing for I'm playing for the
Speaker 2: name on the front of this jersey because damn it,
Speaker 2: they gave me a scholarship to get a free education,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna give it my all. Like you could
Speaker 2: live in that world that's not reality, and it made
Speaker 2: it seem kind of wholesome, right that college sports. Man,
Speaker 2: These guys are just out here because they love they
Speaker 2: love the fans, man, they love this state. But no,
Speaker 2: and again I don't bring this up to say that
Speaker 2: like all these players are for years have been like
Speaker 2: frauds and bad people. But we could get lost in
Speaker 2: this being a wholesome thing and it's all for the
Speaker 2: love of the game and the love of the school
Speaker 2: and just live in that alternate reality. But now you can't,
Speaker 2: because it's right in front of your face every single
Speaker 2: day that this is work, and they will, you know,
Speaker 2: And I shouldn't say they should they I mean, do
Speaker 2: whatever you want, but so many have you to really
Speaker 2: give it any thought that you would do the same thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, you'll never know until you're in that situation,
Speaker 2: and most of us will never be in the situation
Speaker 2: that these high level college athletes are in. But if
Speaker 2: you had the chance to potentially make a move, rather
Speaker 2: it be bailing on your gig and you know, going
Speaker 2: and sitting out with like a non compete or something,
Speaker 2: and then starting fresh a year later in a much
Speaker 2: better situation with more money and maybe a team that
Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe an employer that has a chance
Speaker 2: to do bigger and better things like making the college
Speaker 2: football playoff, you'd probably do the same thing. So I
Speaker 2: think what it comes down to is that it's just
Speaker 2: so different than what we were accustomed to for decades,
Speaker 2: generations even, and now people are, you know, uncomfortable about it.
Speaker 2: Like Colin Lacey. He may be an NFL guy, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean I haven't I've seen a whole
Speaker 2: lot of buzz about him being a guy that will
Speaker 2: get drafted this year. I have no clue. You know,
Speaker 2: he's certainly a talented player, there's no doubt about that,
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying like he might be an NFL
Speaker 2: player because I'm questioning him. I'm just saying I have
Speaker 2: no clue if he has like any legitimate buzz, like
Speaker 2: if he's somebody they're talking about it is like a
Speaker 2: mid round guy maybe. So if so, it wouldn't be
Speaker 2: totally shocked. He was super productive in his first four
Speaker 2: years at South Alabama and then when he got I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean he just had a kick off return for
Speaker 2: a touchdown. He's made some big plays. But there's also
Speaker 2: a chance that he ends up, you know, not making
Speaker 2: it in the NFL, because that's a pretty hard thing
Speaker 2: to do. You know, many really good players in college
Speaker 2: just never never make it in the NFL, or maybe
Speaker 2: they make it a year or two on the practice
Speaker 2: squad like that. It's not easy to make the NFL
Speaker 2: your long term career. So if I was Colin Lacey
Speaker 2: and I was in the exact same situation he was in,
Speaker 2: I think I would do the same thing. And I
Speaker 2: know people would say, well, because you're a quitter, yes,
Speaker 2: and no, I'm going to a different job. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go get another job where I can make more money
Speaker 2: and set myself up in my family way better than
Speaker 2: I could if I stuck around here. I mean, let's
Speaker 2: say Collin's not an NFL guy. By playing for Louisville
Speaker 2: the rest of the year, he would eliminate his eligibility
Speaker 2: and then go take a chance on the NFL, maybe
Speaker 2: be a practice squad guy. Maybe he getstracted. I don't know,
Speaker 2: we'll never know, but like that would that would end
Speaker 2: his college career, and he would be ending his college
Speaker 2: career in his last season where he didn't play the
Speaker 2: full season because of an injury, and he didn't even
Speaker 2: play at full strength. Therefore, like his numbers in the
Speaker 2: film on him, is probably not what he believes is
Speaker 2: as best it could be for the NFL to really
Speaker 2: evaluate him for a job in that league at that profession.
Speaker 2: So by doing this, he can start fresh next year
Speaker 2: and oh, by the way, probably make money in one
Speaker 2: season of NIL that will pay him a lot more.
Speaker 2: Like let's say the NFL is not an option, or
Speaker 2: maybe it's only two years in the practice squad, another
Speaker 2: year in college for him will probably result in him
Speaker 2: making way more money than he would ever make in
Speaker 2: his first job outside of football at an entry level position.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's really a no brainer if you think
Speaker 2: about it. And I hate saying that because you know,
Speaker 2: then you worry about like is everybody going to do it?
Speaker 2: And they might because they have the ability to, so
Speaker 2: like I'm not surprised. I wish he was still going
Speaker 2: to play for Louisville this year, and I hope he
Speaker 2: comes back to Louisville next year because I think he's
Speaker 2: that good of a player. But this one may be
Speaker 2: the one you think about for a long time because
Speaker 2: it was when it really hit you as a fan
Speaker 2: that it can happen to your team too. So now
Speaker 2: a different conversation is the whole system itself? Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's it's broken there there's no enough
Speaker 2: guardrails currently as far as like I mean, because technically
Speaker 2: he and I don't In the million dollar questions, no
Speaker 2: pun intended, is what were the arrangements for Colin Lacy's
Speaker 2: and IL this year? Has he already been paid like
Speaker 2: in full?
Speaker 1: I doubt it?
Speaker 2: But did he have a contract to where like he
Speaker 2: had to actually honor some things because you can't put
Speaker 2: it in contract, and where that's where people get so
Speaker 2: twisted up about it, like these schools and these collectives
Speaker 2: are not allowed to have anything in writing that they're
Speaker 2: paying you to play, because that's still technically not allowed.
Speaker 2: So even if there is a contract about nil and
Speaker 2: he's still around here with the team, you know, he's
Speaker 2: just opting out, but he's going to school and he
Speaker 2: still wants to make these appearances or whatever it is
Speaker 2: that he had to, you know, whatever his end was
Speaker 2: to get his full ANDIL money. He can still do
Speaker 2: that and not play football, because again, that's how stupid
Speaker 2: and screwed up the system is. You're not paying them
Speaker 2: to play, although you are, or you just have to
Speaker 2: dress it up as something different, and that's what we
Speaker 2: call it an IL. So like, I don't know the
Speaker 2: answers to those questions. And next year, when you are
Speaker 2: allowed to pay, you're allowed to mean I say you're allowed.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure they don't want to, but I
Speaker 2: would say nearly every power for program will will pay
Speaker 2: the twenty two million, which is the maximum amount allowed
Speaker 2: that spreads out to all your student athletes. So what
Speaker 2: that does is that just makes that like a stipend
Speaker 2: like that that if it was just that, then the
Speaker 2: playing field would be relatively even for football because you know,
Speaker 2: the maximum amount is twenty two million, and yeah, others
Speaker 2: could afford more than that, but all you can pay
Speaker 2: is twenty two million, So that gives you somewhat of
Speaker 2: an even level playing field, right, So Nil is going
Speaker 2: to be the difference maker. Nil is still going to
Speaker 2: be the kicker. It's not going anywhere. So I'm not
Speaker 2: telling anybody how to feel about it. I'm not telling
Speaker 2: people to like just you know, accept it, but like,
Speaker 2: this is not going to be an unusual sitch situation
Speaker 2: moving forward. Now, if Louisville was undefeated, you think anybody'd
Speaker 2: be opting out. Probably not right, but they're not. So
Speaker 2: when the situation changes and what you came to this
Speaker 2: job to do is no longer on the table, you
Speaker 2: reassess your situation just like people do when they go
Speaker 2: to work every day. And it's weird to compare it,
Speaker 2: but that's what it is to these student athletes now,
Speaker 2: which I mean they are student athletes, but they're also employees.
Speaker 2: And coaches can view a situation, get up and leave
Speaker 2: and go find a better option anytime. They have been
Speaker 2: able to do that for years. Well now players can too,
Speaker 2: and it's just it's different so you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know Lacey's in il situation. But for those that are
Speaker 2: mad that they might have given money to the five
Speaker 2: oh two Circle that they assumed was going to somebody
Speaker 2: like Colin Lacy and now they feel like they got screwed, Well,
Speaker 2: you did and you didn't. I mean, technically you're still
Speaker 2: not allowed to pay players to play the game.
Speaker 3: You guys.
Speaker 2: Remember Trenton Flowers, he got all of his NIL money
Speaker 2: pretty sure upfront, and you know, he still made some appearances,
Speaker 2: and I think, and I don't know if it got
Speaker 2: to this point, I doubt it because I think, again
Speaker 2: he got all of his money up front, and I
Speaker 2: think after Trenton Flowers, the five O two Circle made
Speaker 2: some changes as far as you know contractually what they're
Speaker 2: putting together, but again they can't put it under contract
Speaker 2: that if you don't play this many games, then you
Speaker 2: don't get any money, because again you're still not allowed
Speaker 2: to do that. Like there was some kind of like
Speaker 2: United Way organization that some of these student athletes last
Speaker 2: year were participating in these events, and that was sort
Speaker 2: of part of how they got their NIL. It's just
Speaker 2: dressing it up as something different than what we know
Speaker 2: it actually is is you're paying them to be on
Speaker 2: the team and play. But when it comes down to
Speaker 2: like legal stuff, contracts, it's never It's never anything about
Speaker 2: he's got a suit up and play this many games.
Speaker 2: So look, it sucks all the way around. Trust me,
Speaker 2: I hate it, but I just have tried to accept
Speaker 2: that this is the new world and it is what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: coming up here a four thirty. We're going to talk
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Speaker 2: right here. It's Coffee and Company. Phil Beth Thornton's on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety. It's one of those songs that
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, as soon as I heard it,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah, this song came out, you know,
Speaker 2: five six years ago.
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 2: Like twelve years ago.
Speaker 3: Let's see twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirteen years ago. Goodness gracious, yeah that era like
Speaker 2: from twenty eleven twenty twelve to like now, man, it's
Speaker 2: a it's a blur, it really is.
Speaker 3: But because this is the kind of the birth of
Speaker 3: mumble rap, if we're being honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't know, but I mean, mumble this this
Speaker 2: is future.
Speaker 3: Future and a guy named why c has any other hits.
Speaker 2: So why why see why Cee has a uh why
Speaker 2: see has a song that is probably around the same
Speaker 2: time there, because I don't think he had much momentum
Speaker 2: after that brief run he had with that song, which
Speaker 2: was huge, and then he had another songs gosh, what
Speaker 2: was it called. It's called I know it's it's like
Speaker 2: the ultimate like gem song for me, like if I'm
Speaker 2: running on the treadmill or something. But yeah, like I
Speaker 2: wouldn't consider future mumble rap, but I'm sure a lot
Speaker 2: of people do. And there's been like a two different
Speaker 2: eras of mumble rap that I guess, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: is that still a thing? Like I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's like if it's like popular, yea, I don't anymore.
Speaker 3: But it was whenever I was in high school.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it's amazing that they did that that,
Speaker 2: I mean that would catch on. But I'm sure there's
Speaker 2: music that like we grew up listening to that. The
Speaker 2: younger generation they sit back and think like, who the
Speaker 2: hell would like this? So you know, everybody's different, all right.
Speaker 2: It is Coffee and Company we are feel about Thorton's
Speaker 2: here on a beautiful Thursday afternoon. I already feel like
Speaker 2: I've got a victory under my belt for the day.
Speaker 2: Like when I got here today and I got out
Speaker 2: of the car walked in, I feel like the day
Speaker 2: can only go down from here because I accomplished something
Speaker 2: today that I've never accomplished before, and that was beating
Speaker 2: the expected arrival time courtesy of the ways app by
Speaker 2: like ten minutes. And thanks to you, John, I put
Speaker 2: in the address every day. In fact, Ways knows Ways
Speaker 2: knows my routine. So when I open the ways app,
Speaker 2: like it just says, hey, you going here, and I'm thinking, yep,
Speaker 2: I am going to the fifth Street Garage at four
Speaker 2: Street Live. So it just hit go and then it
Speaker 2: routes me and it gives me the there's really two
Speaker 2: ways I can go, and it's ninety nine percent of
Speaker 2: the time it's the same path. But then there are
Speaker 2: times where because of traffic, they route me the other way,
Speaker 2: which who knows, maybe I'd be late for shows if
Speaker 2: I didn't do that. So that's all. That's me learning
Speaker 2: from John being responsible and planning ahead and whatnot. But
Speaker 2: today I did it, and I saw the expected arrival time,
Speaker 2: and each day I try to beat it, not by
Speaker 2: like driving ninety miles an hour and breaking the law,
Speaker 2: but you know, I always look at the expect as
Speaker 2: soon as I put it in. When I pull out
Speaker 2: of the driveway, I see the expected arrival time, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, be there ten minutes before that. You don't
Speaker 2: know how I drive. I can, And again I'm not
Speaker 2: master maneuverer. Yeah it's not like I'm always going over
Speaker 2: the speed limit, but I probably have before. Again, I've
Speaker 2: gotten pulled over. The only ticket I've ever got in
Speaker 2: my life was on the way to work. While I
Speaker 2: was on the phone with Tony Vinetti too.
Speaker 3: By the way, that blue Mustang or whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, talked about that cop in the Mustang that's
Speaker 2: always like, you know, you never see him until he's
Speaker 2: behind you with his lights on like he's alway, I mean,
Speaker 2: he's he's sneaky, sneaky. But today I got here nine
Speaker 2: minutes earlier than I was supposed to. And it's I guess,
Speaker 2: really sad that those are the things that make me
Speaker 2: happy in life now. And a football team's been pretty
Speaker 2: underwhelming this year, frustrating, no doubt. So now I find
Speaker 2: satis and I'm terrible at betting on sports. I mean,
Speaker 2: that doesn't get it. That's that's not a real thrill
Speaker 2: and a and a you know, a competitive thing that
Speaker 2: I have fun with anymore because I'm so bad at it.
Speaker 2: So trying to get somewhere faster than the ways app
Speaker 2: expects me to get there is now what I do
Speaker 2: for fun, to really get a to get a rush,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, to live.
Speaker 3: On the edge. So how'd you beat them today?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, And I mean I have no clue.
Speaker 2: And maybe I cheated because lately what I've been doing
Speaker 2: is I will i'll, I mean, I know where I'm going,
Speaker 2: so I'll put it in and then turn it off
Speaker 2: because I want. I want to, because sometimes if you
Speaker 2: leave it on the whole route, like sometimes if you're like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I use it throughout an entire drive if
Speaker 2: I don't know where I'm going, But if I put
Speaker 2: it in, I know exactly where I'm going. I just
Speaker 2: want to see which way they're routing me. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I also stop following it throughout the ride because I
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes they'll realize, oh, wow, traffic was bad.
Speaker 2: Now it's not You're you're updated. It expected a rival
Speaker 2: time as this, So like maybe there was traffic and
Speaker 2: it went away, but I couldn't beat them. I could never,
Speaker 2: like no matter what, I would always be there like
Speaker 2: a minute or maybe two minutes earlier than expected, never like,
Speaker 2: you know, close to ten minutes, which I was today.
Speaker 2: So I would assume to answer your question, it was
Speaker 2: it was traffic that maybe was bad for a minute
Speaker 2: and then it wasn't. So yeah, And I don't know
Speaker 2: how they know it, like how they're so accurate because
Speaker 2: they're not just basing it off of like the speed limit,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like because they know people
Speaker 2: can go faster. So like, yeah, it's it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's the power of technology. And I'm loyal to ways.
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of different services and things out
Speaker 2: there maps. Yeah, like I you know Apple Maps, Okay
Speaker 2: they have Oh yeah, yeah, so that's yes, that's the one.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's called that either, but that's
Speaker 2: the one that comes on the iPhone. And then you
Speaker 2: can do Google Maps, and then you can do Ways.
Speaker 2: And I'm not really like that. I'm not super loyal
Speaker 2: to brands, you know what I mean, Like I I
Speaker 2: can I can get by with a generic version of
Speaker 2: something like I. You know, it's not something I'm real
Speaker 2: picky about a lot, but some people are the opposite.
Speaker 2: They will, Hey, if I if I'm eating, you know,
Speaker 2: if I'm gonna put this condiment on my food, I'm
Speaker 2: only getting this brand, Like if I'm getting laundry detergent, Nope,
Speaker 2: it's got to be this specific brand in this specific scent.
Speaker 2: Like I'm kind of whatever. But with Ways, like no,
Speaker 2: if anybody brings Like if I see my wife over
Speaker 2: there trying to navigate somewhere she gets Google Maps out,
Speaker 2: I want to throw ress out of the car, like
Speaker 2: get out of here or a ways family, Honey, you
Speaker 2: didn't know, now you do.
Speaker 3: I've never used ways? Why is ways better?
Speaker 2: You've never used ways?
Speaker 3: No, I've always had Google Maps much one.
Speaker 2: It's way more accurate and it can route you. I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like it can. I don't know about Google Maps.
Speaker 2: I don't use Google Maps, but the one that comes
Speaker 2: on the iPhone, I just it's I mean, it's still
Speaker 2: like I would use that if I'm walking somewhere, because
Speaker 2: Ways doesn't. If it does do the walking thing, then
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know how to.
Speaker 1: Get to it.
Speaker 2: But Ways also tells you hey cop up here, or hey,
Speaker 2: hey pothole, or hey you know, and you can get
Speaker 2: like if you if you say still there after you know,
Speaker 2: car on the side of the road, you get like
Speaker 2: you get like more points a game. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 2: it's you know.
Speaker 3: You heard Way. I've heard Ways drains your battery too.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true anymore, but that was
Speaker 3: what I heard back in the day.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't shock me. I feel like any any GPS service
Speaker 2: is going to drain a battery. And to be honest
Speaker 2: with you, John, straight up, they're probably exactly the same.
Speaker 2: Just like just like Android and iPhone, like there's not
Speaker 2: many things that you can I mean, there's very few
Speaker 2: things you can do on one of those phones. That
Speaker 2: you can't do on the other it's just preference and
Speaker 2: what you get used to. And of course, you know
Speaker 2: the fight that will never end, the the rivalry that'll
Speaker 2: never that will never go away. People who love Android
Speaker 2: are really loyal to that, and they they you know,
Speaker 2: they think iPhone Apple people are stupid and they're snobs,
Speaker 2: and you know, the Apple people, they just they don't
Speaker 2: understand anybody would ever not have an iPhone.
Speaker 3: And now they use Android chargers if you have a
Speaker 3: new iPhone. Well, teddy, I mean, I know it's not
Speaker 3: technically androids, it's USBC, but you teach what it's what
Speaker 3: the androids of all the US.
Speaker 2: It's USB C. Now I'm glad that they that they
Speaker 2: that they've done that, but like my AirPods are still
Speaker 2: on the old iPhone, so like we still have one
Speaker 2: older iPhone and that was their own thing, right, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know of many other devices that used I
Speaker 2: can't think of anything that's not an Apple product.
Speaker 3: That it was the lightning course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe lightning is utilized elsewhere with other devices.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so shout out to shoutouts to ways and
Speaker 2: you know, I stopped at I stopped so my my
Speaker 2: my route here. Once I'm on sixty five, which is
Speaker 2: ninety percent of the trip, I get off at Broadway
Speaker 2: on sixty five North, I take an immediate left on
Speaker 2: Jacob Street and then go down to go down to
Speaker 2: a stop sign until I until I hit Second Street.
Speaker 2: Take the left. Is that Broadway? I think it's Broadway.
Speaker 2: Take a left on Broadway and then go down to
Speaker 2: Fish Street turn and then the garage is there. So
Speaker 2: if you know downtown, then I think you know where
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. But where the Thorntons used to be.
Speaker 2: They shut down that Thorntons that was there on First Street,
Speaker 2: And I mean, do you ever go that way, yes, okay,
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of people just hanging out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And today there was somebody in the middle of the
Speaker 2: street right there on First Street at the Jacob Street
Speaker 2: stop sign that like wouldn't move and because people were
Speaker 2: like lightly honking, like hey alone, because there wasn't traffic,
Speaker 2: but like people were backed up a little bit more
Speaker 2: so than usual, and you know, they wouldn't move, and
Speaker 2: they had like by I mean, it's really sad because
Speaker 2: clearly it's people who are seemingly homeless or at least
Speaker 2: just going through. Really, I don't want to assume anybody
Speaker 2: out there that has a bunch of bags and like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like they have all their life's belongings
Speaker 2: and they're just walking through that area, which is again
Speaker 2: really really sad. But this guy and move today for
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, it wasn't like it took forever,
Speaker 2: but I'm thinking, all right here I am. I got
Speaker 2: a chance to potentially beat ways by a good, good
Speaker 2: amount and somebody's gonna hold me up. Luckily I was
Speaker 2: able to get through, and again I got here nine
Speaker 2: minutes quicker than expected. Which, hey, it's the little things,
Speaker 2: little things in life that you know, that make me happy. Now,
Speaker 2: all right? Fib Oo two five seven seventy nine hundreds
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Speaker 2: This tech says, Nick, You're gonna need to reevaluate your
Speaker 2: take on Kentucky fans jumping off the Mark Pope bandwagon early.
Speaker 2: They think they're going forty to oh after an exhibition
Speaker 2: beat down. So I you know, I didn't get a
Speaker 2: chance to listen to any of I mean, I've been
Speaker 2: I've been running around all day today, so I haven't
Speaker 2: listened to much of anything. So I don't know if
Speaker 2: on KSR they were doing that or if you're just
Speaker 2: seeing Kentucky fans on some social media and look, this
Speaker 2: is this is what this is what we do, right,
Speaker 2: like we kind of we don't always, we don't all
Speaker 2: act exactly the same, but there are things that you'll
Speaker 2: poke fun at the rival for doing, knowing that like
Speaker 2: you and your fans of this of your if your
Speaker 2: team do the same thing, like it's just it's how
Speaker 2: petty and childish this is. So I haven't seen any
Speaker 2: Kentucky fan claiming they're going forty oh and they're gonna
Speaker 2: win a national championship. But but what I would gather
Speaker 2: is that they're just really excited about the new world
Speaker 2: that is Kentucky basketball under Mark Pope and not John Caliperry.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure if I looked hard enough, I would
Speaker 2: find somebody who thinks Kentucky's gonna win a national championship
Speaker 2: and they're going to go forty oh. But like, I
Speaker 2: didn't hear a single Louisville fan that was being serious
Speaker 2: claimed that the exhibition win over Young Harris meant that
Speaker 2: Louisville was going to be an elite team this year.
Speaker 2: But obviously we're in a way better situation than we
Speaker 2: were in with Kenny Payne, and Louisville came out in
Speaker 2: their first chance to play in front of fans, although
Speaker 2: it wasn't a real game, and they played a really,
Speaker 2: really fun, exciting style of play. They drained twenty four
Speaker 2: to threes. So I think both fan bases are honestly
Speaker 2: doing the same thing. I'm not hearing a whole lot
Speaker 2: of people really ramping up expectations, but I think both
Speaker 2: teams have both both fan bases have seen their teams
Speaker 2: play an exhibition play, and both teams shot the ball well,
Speaker 2: dominated their opponent, and that's encouraging. So, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't mean I'm sure Kentucky Wesleyan was a similar challenge
Speaker 2: as Young Harris was to Lowell. Now what it said,
Speaker 2: I would mean, I can't think of Tucky way. I
Speaker 2: think Kentucky Wesleyan at the Division two level is you know,
Speaker 2: believed to be a better team than Young Harris, but
Speaker 2: by how much I don't know. And at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, you really can't learn a whole lot
Speaker 2: in these games unless you learn the hard way. If
Speaker 2: you learned something and you have a real big reaction,
Speaker 2: a big takeaway, a real result. We're speaking of in
Speaker 2: an exhibition game. It's likely because of what happened with
Speaker 2: Kenny Payne, where you messed around and lost two of
Speaker 2: those four games that you played. By the way, Kentucky,
Speaker 2: where they make twenty was it twenty two two threes?
Speaker 2: Twenty four threes? Yeah, they shot twenty Let's see here.
Speaker 2: Why is it not showing me? They were twenty one
Speaker 2: of forty two. Pretty damn good. Wesleyan was four of
Speaker 2: twenty seven. That's not very good. I didn't Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: just now looking at the numbers. It looks like they
Speaker 2: had a pretty balanced attack. I mean, it looks like
Speaker 2: they had nearly everybody who played, almost all of them
Speaker 2: scored at least double figures. So, look, that's what you're
Speaker 2: supposed to do in these kind of games. And I'm
Speaker 2: sure Kentucky fans are just as encouraged as Louisville fans
Speaker 2: were on on Monday night. All right, quick break, we'll
Speaker 2: come back on the other side. Don't forget. We've got
Speaker 2: a couple of guests going to join us today, but
Speaker 2: that's not until a little while. So if you want
Speaker 2: to jump in, you can BIBBO two five to seven,
Speaker 2: one seventy nine hundred bone lines are open. We will
Speaker 2: talk a little Boston college football around four thirty today
Speaker 2: because we have a beat rider that covers BC. Trevor
Speaker 2: Hass for the Boston Globe's going to join us at
Speaker 2: four thirty Bibo five. We'll talk to Ken Spencer and
Speaker 2: uh in between there, well, we'll have some fun, so
Speaker 2: stick around right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Yes,
Speaker 2: this is the exact song that I was that I
Speaker 2: was referring to earlier. I haven't heard it in probably,
Speaker 2: i don't know, seven eight years.
Speaker 3: So you usould get hype at the gym.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's just really upbeat. Is Ace Hood in
Speaker 2: this song too?
Speaker 1: Act?
Speaker 2: Yes, Dode whatever happen to that guy? Forgot about him?
Speaker 3: He had a couple songs. Oh he was big for
Speaker 3: a little while. Yeah he was.
Speaker 2: He was a big deal for a little while, and
Speaker 2: you know, maybe still is and I'm just checked out.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this this song still is great in my opinion,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure you know others disagree. All right, very
Speaker 2: little time left here once again, and I've I've let
Speaker 2: John know that, like he's going to have to kick
Speaker 2: me off the air at the at certain points in
Speaker 2: each segment, just because I love having In fact, the
Speaker 2: five o'clock hours a little bit different, because I just
Speaker 2: assumed that like the last you know, the last segment,
Speaker 2: you know, I assume we still have people listening, but
Speaker 2: you know, the people who get in their car at
Speaker 2: like three forty five or four forty five, like they're
Speaker 2: the ones who if they're in the car for twenty
Speaker 2: I don't know, twenty ish minutes, the majority of that
Speaker 2: time is nothing but commercials. And that's all my fault
Speaker 2: because I go way too long in the first segment
Speaker 2: and in the second segment. I mean, I last way
Speaker 2: too long. Story in my life. It's it's just you know, something,
Speaker 2: I've something I've pretty good.
Speaker 3: I've got got to deal with ye all about the bro.
Speaker 2: Beat, Yeah, exactly exactly, thanks thanks to doctor Wood. It's
Speaker 2: you know, it's never been an issue. Shout out to
Speaker 2: the Louis of the Men's Clinic. So you know, I
Speaker 2: I'll uh. I was gonna say I'll do better, but
Speaker 2: I would be lying. I'm gonna have to make John
Speaker 2: make me do better because I don't have the discipline,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's it's unfortunate. So I'm sure nobody
Speaker 2: paid attention or cares. But last night we actually had
Speaker 2: one of the biggest upsets in college football this year
Speaker 2: as Liberty who if you remember we talked about the
Speaker 2: undefeated teams in college football, they were undefeated. They weren't ranked,
Speaker 2: and it's for obvious reason, not only because they lost
Speaker 2: last night, but like they hadn't played anybody and their
Speaker 2: bottom level FBS as far as they're conference, and they
Speaker 2: were twenty eight point favorites last night and they lost
Speaker 2: to an OH to six team who was zero to
Speaker 2: ten all time versus FBS teams. Kennasaw State pulled off
Speaker 2: a humongous upset that I think might actually end up
Speaker 2: being the biggest upset of the season so far. And
Speaker 2: again it's it's Kennesau State and Liberty, so nobody really cares.
Speaker 2: But there were ten undefeated teams until last night. Now
Speaker 2: there's just nine, and they were the only undefeated team
Speaker 2: that wasn't ranked.
Speaker 3: I believe that's correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So as far as the S and P plus,
Speaker 2: which is an ESPN formula that that I do actually
Speaker 2: think is great, that's Bill Conley's that you know, Kennesaw
Speaker 2: State is two seventh in the S and P plus.
Speaker 2: That makes them the worst FBS team in the country,
Speaker 2: worse than sixty six FCS teams, worse than seven Division
Speaker 2: two teams, only seven spots ahead of the best Division
Speaker 2: three team in the country. So you know, again it's
Speaker 2: not going to move the needle because of who it is.
Speaker 2: But that's a huge upset in college football. And you know,
Speaker 2: I we had it on at the house as as
Speaker 2: Mace was going to sleep, and it didn't hit me
Speaker 2: till I looked up and saw this, you know, because
Speaker 2: the whole time I had it on, it was really
Speaker 2: just background noise, and I didn't realize, Oh, one of
Speaker 2: these teams is oh and six the other six and
Speaker 2: oh and I mean, and you know, honestly, I think
Speaker 2: what got my attention about that was hearing how like
Speaker 2: animated the broadcasters were, because hey, you're calling any game
Speaker 2: that that you know, at any level, you want to
Speaker 2: be enthusiastic, you want to be into it because you
Speaker 2: know it's part of your job. But you know they
Speaker 2: were a little bit more amped than which you typically
Speaker 2: get from a two or a Wednesday night. What conference
Speaker 2: is that? Is that Conference? USA? I know Liberty is
Speaker 2: in conference, yes, and I guess I guess that's that's
Speaker 2: what it is. But yeah, so I'm looking here. I
Speaker 2: just had this pulled up a moment ago. Biggest, like
Speaker 2: the biggest upset of the season is actually Drake over
Speaker 2: Eastern Washington, but that's FCS if you count FBS. This
Speaker 2: tie the Northern Illinois upset over Notre Dame. Vanderbilt was
Speaker 2: twenty three and a half point dogs overall against Baman,
Speaker 2: and of course that was a big upset too. All right,
Speaker 2: quick break, we got two hours left, so stick around
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