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my whole life is spit? What you got to do?
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we got joined in the subway. He shot over.
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texture to Luca.
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on my mole bone. Quasi modo. I got a natural
flesh patch right there for my mole bone. I live
a life cuasing modo. My bitches be calling me master model.
You don't even understand this floid over flodo. When I
get older, will I still have an aft shoulder?
Speaker 5: Was it?
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me played over on this back part right, just the
part quasimodo.
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Speaker 4: You need a vampire song.
Speaker 1: We're bathed in blood tonight, alright, we we're swimming in.
Speaker 4: Blood, red light, Maxine in a pool of blood. Yes,
what's up?
Speaker 1: Ready for vampires? You haven't been on my show in
a long time.
Speaker 4: Walking through the j Dyer Show, I'm back from the
dead on Jason Nelson's.
Speaker 1: Uh brought back from the dead like a vampire.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is the evil genie.
Speaker 1: This is how it rolls over here on my channel.
I don't remember what you were on here last time
doing talking about something movies. Put your phone up. I
was talking on a huge offense. They don't matter. This matters.
What they don't matter except they pay piggys. What's up
pay piggy's y'all do matter? Deep down in my heart
if you would hit like welcome, we already got people
gifted membership shout out to what was I say? Read
it out? We got a five dollars super chat from
that first guy there. What's he saying?
Speaker 4: I'm married to a Yes, he knows.
Speaker 1: The vibe and then he gives five memberships.
Speaker 4: Nice. Thanks.
Speaker 1: Finally we're gonna talk about yes Nos, Fraud two, as
well as multiple vampire movies. We're gonna go deep. We're
gonna go heavy. We've got a lot of analysis to
get through, so let's start with what do you want
to just we we did Substance. I'm gonna count it
as a vampire movie. We might as well. Yeah, more
of Demi Moore than I ever thought I would get.
It didn't more like Demi too much. I want Demi less,
not Demi Moore, because this was the grossest movie I've
ever seen.
Speaker 4: It was squeechy and squanchy and raunch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Demi less, Demi less, please. Next time I saw
she was up for awards for this, I don't even
follow a bunch of Hollywood awards nonsense? Do y'all follow that?
I don't even know what it means. Did she win
a I think so, golden trophy of some kind of
golden apophas.
Speaker 4: Trophy, golden globe? Well this has eggs symbolism in it.
Speaker 1: And well the woman is the you know, birth giver,
so it makes sense. And she is a supermodel who
is aging. She's a fitness woman. She's like a Jane
Fonda aging.
Speaker 8: And then she.
Speaker 1: Wants a fountain of youth because they're ready to hire
somebody new. They're tired of her, and they find this
girl that they want to hire, but turns out that's
her as a younger version of her because she has
been taking the substance, which is this weird product that
you get in the mail from shady dudes in an
alley and it makes you younger.
Speaker 4: Well, this is interesting because it's about your treating your
younger self with care because you're going to have to
take care of your older self. Also, do you know
what I mean? Like, be kind to your body in
its youth because it's going to have to carry you through.
And she has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame,
which is her immortal star, right, and as her body's decaying,
so it's kind of like this the Walk of Fame,
the Star of the Sidewalk Member, it was like kind
of decaying also, And Dennis Quaid in this is also
equally as disgusting as the squandchy parts of her coming
out of her own back and stuff.
Speaker 1: Remember that it's very John Carpenter. I didn't expect this
to be full of goo monsters that I would see
in a John Carpenter movie, but that's actually what this
was all about. It gets super, super gross. It's hard
to watch. It's actually not a bad movie if you
can stomach all of the grossness. The spewing of the
whole crowd that seems really weird. And I'm sure it's
trying to make these statements like, oh, women are pieces
of meat and women are sacrificed in the ultra Hollywood
and all this stuff. But yeah, I mean, which is
kind of true. But it's just it was so gross
it was hard to watch. But there might also be
an mk ultra element where we have mpdd ID going on.
Does she have a associative state where you know, she
has this alternate personality that she thinks is the younger her,
or maybe it's her core child personality, younger personality, because
she doesn't remember what's going on when the other one's
out right, so she thinks she's passed out in this
secret room that she's built in her condo. The other
one takes over and goes and does the stuff throughout
the day, and then they end up having this battle
between each other. So it kind of reminded me of like,
you know, Split with James McAvoy the Shamaland and you
have the characters all battling inside of Macavoy's head. It
was kind of like that, But I don't think it
was supposed to be about that. I think it's supposed
to be about just the idea that the whole image
of women is controlled by patriarchal men and they're you know,
using women as meet and so I think it had
a feminist message, but beyond that, I was not I mean,
it was visually interesting, it was definitely it had the macabre.
It was definitely a horror movie, but not a lot
of fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And she ended up having to steal from the
one body to stay in the young body, and so
there's again another reference to like how you treat yourself
in your youth. You're stealing your life away at the
end of your life.
Speaker 1: The crazier you live when you're young, the more you
regret this when you're older. Yeah, so you're basically stealing
from yourself in the future. Yes, it's like the reverse
of bitcoin. Bitcoin is like you're giving yourself money in
the future. This is taking away your life force from
the future.
Speaker 4: Well, and she doesn't live in her old body. She
just kind of waits around to be in the young
body again. And she's cruel to the old body, you know,
she like locks it in the darkness and like, at
least you could put the old body in the bed,
but no, they're they're very cruel to each other actually,
and even to the point where she still so much
life from the older body that the old body starts
turning into like a witch goblin hand remember that, Yeah,
I mean it.
Speaker 1: Turns full goblin. Yeah, not just a hand, the whole thing.
Like gradually she becomes this hag. Yeah, and that ends
up being the dominant character that then goes to the
award show at the end, trying to get an Emmy
or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what did I say. Oh, it's a metaphor for
your life as a whole. If you abuse your body
when you're young, you recredit when you're older.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then oh, a critique on society's idea about the
value of the elderly.
Speaker 1: Oh that's an interesting point. Yeah, in a consumerist youth
based right. Crowley talked about the age of the crown
and conquering child infantil infantile era will be worshiped, the
idea of perpetual youth. You know what I'm talking about.
You're always the word ship nioty. The worship of youth
is the crole and.
Speaker 4: Aon and to get people to accept eu t h E.
Speaker 1: N yes, youtha stuff. Yeah, and this movie has that
as part of the point is that once you're no
longer useful to the industry, right, you can be discarded. Yeah,
because you're a useless substance and you're a substance.
Speaker 4: Oh good point. You are just a substance.
Speaker 1: Shout out to all my substances.
Speaker 4: In the chat, Goo babies, how are you guys?
Speaker 1: What's up all y'all? Goo babies? Shout out to my
good babies in the check. We gotta read the super
chat there about w W George.
Speaker 4: Been looking forward to this analysis for a while. Pumped,
We're gonna bite your neck and.
Speaker 1: You got more over here, okay, right here?
Speaker 4: Question for Jamie one dollar, what are some of your
favorite movies and books?
Speaker 1: Quasimodo favorite movies and books. That's our favorite song. It's
funk pop and quasi mode riff tracks, rip tracks is fun.
Speaker 4: That's like your happy place. All other movies and books
are like kind of like work. So for fun we
watch a lot of like Mystery Science Theater and roof tracks.
How about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we did for fun and book wise,
what do you like?
Speaker 4: Books are like something else?
Speaker 1: Are they part of your work?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So I can't remember the last time I read a
book just for fun fun.
Speaker 1: Babysitters Club?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Dean cons arl Stein, No, just kidding. That
was when you're a kid. You read that? My favorite books?
Speaker 1: Gorge, I don't know, Fly one dollar.
Speaker 4: I plan to sell my bitcoin on Bullish News, anticipating
by opportunities at seventy two K and forty four k
later this year. The bitcoin reserve narrative is likely making
a top and misleading investors Yeah.
Speaker 1: I disagree with everything there, so I wouldn't sell my bitcoin.
I don't anticipate a drop that low, and I don't
think that it's misleading anyone. If we get it and
they do purchase one million bitcoin over five years, in
five years, bitcoin will be one million dollars, that's my thesis.
Speaker 4: DJ DJJ. Can you do year of love towards Jamie today?
Speaker 1: No, she gets the mean. If I channel all the
love to you wonderful Internet denizens, I gotta take the
anger out on somebody. I gotta be mean to somebody.
Speaker 4: You're stealing my love from they're stealing your love.
Speaker 1: From the Yes, they're sapping. They're the energy vampires, actually
sapping the law to them.
Speaker 4: I'm going to bring up energy vampires because that's my
favorite kind of a well.
Speaker 1: That comes up in you know that comes up in
some of these analysis.
Speaker 4: Okay, super chat, what the Frankish melkitee jay? Have you
seen the movie Seven? It's a movie about a serial
killer who's a Catholic extremist. The movie was the infra
inspiration for Saul.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about David Fincher's Seven with Brad Pitt
and Mold and for you. Then, of course I've seen seven.
I don't like seven. It's pretty gross too. But yeah,
I've seen all of David Fincher movies. I think we've
covered We've mentioned him at least on a lot of podcasts.
But anyway, thank you for that.
Speaker 4: Super Chet for night Club was pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dragon Tattoo did all the Dragon Tattoo movies. He
did The Killer, the Michael Fassmenner programmed Assassin Killer movie. Yeah,
which actually the second time I watched I thought it
was pretty good. I changed my analysis of it is
that it for what is this blazing storm?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so oh when she's on the she's a star
and then her little goo face like crawls over to
the star.
Speaker 4: She's addicted to the youth experience and she becomes the
old lady from the Shining and even the bathroom from
the Shining was there exactly, and now she's a gollum.
But she wants to stop. And they have this thing
where you are the matrix, you're your own matrix, and
then they place what does that mean?
Speaker 1: I remember them saying that, what do you mean you're
you are the matrix?
Speaker 4: Like the old lady gave birth to the young.
Speaker 1: Of the matrix of the womb, not the matrix, like no, yeah.
Speaker 4: You're right, the matrix and you have to fight each other.
Then they have the thus bake Zarathustra music at the end,
which is another no to Kubrick and the end of
Sunset Boulevard, remember that movie.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah. Norman Desmond, the Demi Moore character is very
similar to Norma Desmond and Sunset Boulevard. Who's an you know,
aging actress who is still essentially gone. She's gone insane
because she's living in her glory days.
Speaker 4: Oh and she becomes goo that is, just goes into
her star on the walk. So she's just a crawling
goo baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jamie loves any movie with goo babies.
Speaker 2: Goo babies, James Come True, goo babies babies.
Speaker 4: So the goo baby is absorbed into the Hollywood Walk
of fan.
Speaker 1: Yes, So essentially she's a substance that gets resorbed into
the Hollywood machine.
Speaker 11: Right, yes, uh, super chat are you hey, skyscraper philosopher
Christian horror fan here, what are your thoughts on the
moral dilemma of seeing horror films that glorified satanic rituals?
Speaker 4: You whole like nost.
Speaker 1: I didn't like nos f autu. We're gonna get to
that and I'm going to talk about why I thought
it sucked. But yeah, I think you should have some
kind of like stopping point of you know, I've never
watched human Centipede or any kind of nasty stuff, but.
Speaker 4: I mean, he'll turn it off. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Alternately, I don't think there's anything like inherently wrong with
a horror movie. In fact, as I argue in my
lecture at the Horror Convention, you know, horror really teaches
virtue and vice because in almost all horror movies again
that aren't focused on just graphic discussing violence, like most
of the horror movies have the message that when you
give into vice is precisely when you're opening it up
to the demonic to come in, right, I mean, Final Girl,
that's like the whole point is like she survives because
usually she's the one that's virtuous, she doesn't give into
the various vices. And no horror movies, you know, there's
a long tradition in fairy tales, Western literature, Southern Gothic
it's full of the macabre. So no, we shouldn't be
these weird puritans who you know, If you're not going
to read Flannery O'Connor novels or William Faulkner because they
have elements of horror, then you're just a Protestant puritanical idiot.
What's next? No more goo babies, no more good babies?
Hallowed night? You want to read that?
Speaker 4: Okay? Start investing in bootcoin. Last year, I'm already celebrating
becoming a bitcoin billionaire.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about, Bitcoin zillionaires. On the March,
the Empires on the Run excellent. Her name Lasha, Her
name Lasha.
Speaker 4: Garmin gam Mar Joba. What do you think modernist paradigm
will be returned? Changed to traditionalism?
Speaker 1: Or is it the end of Will's I don't know
what gamar Joba is and I don't understand the question.
So will we return traditionalism or just the power of
the will?
Speaker 4: I'm not sure the end of free will?
Speaker 8: Is it that?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it means. Vinnie H two pounds
do you like? What do you think about really Scott's
Kingdom of Heaven? I remember thinking it was like woke,
anti Christian Muslim crap.
Speaker 4: So I Orlando Bloomin. I think so that's the only
thing I know about that.
Speaker 1: You didn't watch it, I don't think so, not a fan.
All right, what's next, Let's do what her name is?
Queen of the Dance? What's her name?
Speaker 4: Aliyah?
Speaker 1: Yes, Aliyah. Now there is rumors right of her in
the Ditty circles and all of that, in the jay
Z circles. I don't know all the lore. What do
you think?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so she was part of that when she
was very young, and the rumor is that she was
Jayz's girlfriend right in age. You know, there's all that
stuff around her death is mysterious and that she had
just got done with this movie. She was a rival
to Beyonce.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was set to have the kind of career
that Beyonce.
Speaker 1: Went on to have. Well, I am an e diva,
so you know, I gotta figure out. You know, I
have a camaraderie with my sisters. Oh yeah, being a diva,
So I gotta know what's up and who to watch
out for. I gotta watch out for Beyonce, right yeah,
there's a lot of death to the world, right yeah.
Speaker 4: You gotta pay your respects or they'll be hell to it.
Speaker 1: Now, this movie is funny because it's not good at all,
but it's so bad it's actually funny. And I never
watched it until Jamie was like, hey, we should watch
Quay of the Dan And then I'm like, what even
is that? And oh, it's a vampire movie. I didn't
realize that it was like the sequel to.
Speaker 4: What's that? A Rice? Vampires?
Speaker 1: And it's not a sequel to that, it's part of.
Speaker 4: The Vampire Chronicles of.
Speaker 1: Yes, are you serious? Yeah, yes, tripping this whole time.
I didn't even realize that. And you're saying, he wrote
this stupid story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so we all know now that interview with
a vampire is it is from an Rice? Look at
you eight, you know it's a little age.
Speaker 1: It's taking Gray. We all know it's taking Gray.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we didn't realize that when we were young.
We just thought vampires were kind of, you know, foppish.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was a Skittles thing when I
watched it when it came out, and then I remember
watching it in the two thousands. I was like, man,
this is freaking turn this off. Yeah. So nineties moms
loved interview with a vampire. They were in love with
vampire Tom kOhm.
Speaker 4: I mean it's a gay vampire.
Speaker 1: Why would a mom like a skittles man.
Speaker 4: Well, that's a question we've been asking for a long time,
like why did they steer young women to try and
love monsters and wicked equal vampires and wear wolves and
you know, demons from outer space and make them some
kind of great lovers like Twilight. Right.
Speaker 1: Well, even when in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which people
were saying, are you going to be covering Buffy? We
did a whole podcast on Buffy like two years ago.
You can go watch that. But the Buffy Vampire episode
is funny because even in that one, he has this
you know, like overwhelming machismo and he can kind of
just like entrance the ladies.
Speaker 4: He can put you in there.
Speaker 1: Don't know what a thrall exactly. He got that thrall.
And that's why Lasha says, again for five dollars, I'm
a Georgian. My girlfriend watched Knows Faratu six times in
the cinema. Whoa dude, it made me grow a big mustache.
Should not be scared as long as she doesn't have
the mustache, then you're good. But if you had to
grow the mustache? What does he say? How do he talk?
That's rotun? What was the phrase? I already forgot the phrase? Though,
will be my Can you pull up that clip? I'll
read another super show. You pull up that clip BTC
Chad one Dollar, Jay. I've heard you say I love
you to Tristana and Sam, but never did Jamie. Oh,
it's faking gray. They're trying to expose me as faking
great than I was over here. I'm over here watching
Tom kuhm vampire movies. I've been outed. I'm out of
the Tom kuh closet right now. Hmmm, I got out
a dog here? Do it all right? Jordy Okay, Puzzy,
he needs a black omen the Pool, Jermaney and the Poor. Yeah,
he's a bad Oleman Tool Journey and the Bullet. I
want to read all the super chats in the.
Speaker 10: You Have To Now and nineties Moms, Wolve Deal Love.
I'm buying her bomb Colm, Uh.
Speaker 4: You will obey my counselor That hurts my voice to
do that.
Speaker 1: So back to Aliyah. Yeah, she's over here trying to
hook up with fake Robert Pattinson and this because he's
a he's a rock and roll man, but he's in
there like a shitty Evanescence band.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 4: Remember, I'm scared for this guy whose girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Has been super chat jokes. I got to move on
to this other skittles man.
Speaker 4: All right, Aliyah is but he's a queen of vampires.
Speaker 1: What you're forgetting the guy who's in the Evanescence band, Right,
he's like in the shitty two thousand zero, like you know,
Stained and Evan tool nine Olympus gets like a fred
Durst vampire.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he wakes up and he figures out that
music is the most influential thing in the world now
in the twenty first century.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, so and here comes up, Here comes here
come Aliyah coming now that statue. Yes, he looked like
a he looked like a ghetto. He looked like a
B grade. He looked like an E B T. Robert Pattinson,
he'd kind of Robert Pattens you go Bay with a
snap what t call.
Speaker 4: He's basically figured out that rock stars are the new gods.
Speaker 1: And so he's a vampire rock star and which is dumb.
Speaker 4: By the way, there there's actually Fritz Lang German expressionist
stuff in here. Yes, there is his music video looks
like that. It's like punky Goth, no doubt, miss, It's like.
Speaker 1: A nine Inch Nails video.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the vampires hate him because he's been open.
Speaker 1: Now and this goes this is them a concert. This
is actually so bad as worth watching.
Speaker 4: Well, this is kind of like True Blood where the
vampires want to be out in the open because supposedly
they're like reformed or whatever, and they can drink the
synthetic blood instead of Yeah on a ling, gotcha, right,
here we go.
Speaker 1: Here's I need an HD trailer. Those other trailers were
garbage quality.
Speaker 4: The orphan Jesse a girl. She's a vampire bloodline, yes,
but she's not one yet. She works for the Ministry
of Spooky Things or whatever. Remember I don't remember this
in England.
Speaker 1: The Minister Spooky Things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't remember what it was called. And oh,
vampires absorb people's personalities. And so Akasha the most powerful
vampire mother or whatever. She's been sleeping this whole time,
waiting for Listat to come in making her.
Speaker 1: And how did Aliyah pass away? What do we know her?
What that story was?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 4: Was they entuned her for like eating the whole world?
Speaker 1: What's the story of.
Speaker 4: Her actual it was a plane crash.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I forgot this, Okay, okay.
Speaker 4: But her name was Akasha and then whole Stargate conspiracy
book about the records. And then there's something in the
movie called an kill. Is that like?
Speaker 1: And Lil, I don't remember you called.
Speaker 4: Her a trampart.
Speaker 1: Trampart meaning see, I was on point. My Zingers were
on point in this.
Speaker 4: Yes, so he needs to eat more poets.
Speaker 8: For his.
Speaker 4: Lyrics because they suck well.
Speaker 1: But what we're missing is this point. You didn't even
mention this, which is the idea that rock and roll
is essentially a Satanic sell your soul Illuminati sacrifice behind
the mic type of situation. That's the plot that's going on, right.
So in other words, you want to be corn, you
want to be tool, you want to be having essence,
you want to be Fred Durst. You gotta sell your
soul to the double.
Speaker 4: Dog corn inch nails.
Speaker 1: No other way than people that them dudes got popular.
Speaker 4: She's got cornach nails.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no other way that Fred Durst became that
popular without selling and sold to the devil. That's what
I'm sing. That's a conspiracy proof, right there.
Speaker 8: Boy.
Speaker 4: They also do a burning Man scene in a Yeah.
Speaker 1: They're at like burning Man the rock and the rock
scene is pretty wild.
Speaker 4: But that reminded me of astral World.
Speaker 1: Remember, yes, the vampire's attack in this nine inch Nails concert.
Here's his video. Anyway, it's a terrible movie, but it's
so bad that it's actually pretty fun. It's worth watching.
What's next?
Speaker 4: What if not Stained Disturbed? Remember those guys?
Speaker 1: Yes, how does that go? I don't know any of
those songs, and we're going to keep it that.
Speaker 4: Oh but the girl Jesse becomes a vampire in the end,
so they kill the girl. Yeah, and the human girl
becomes a right.
Speaker 1: There, Now that's her buying fake Robert Pattinson, it's like that.
He do got a smooth I like the vibe of
his villa, though he did have a nice villa. He on,
I got Twin Peaks villa going on? Or what's next?
Speaker 4: We got Underworld.
Speaker 1: Let's let's get through Underworld in Van Helsti because those
are kind of stupid and there's not a whole lot
going on except for a little bit of esoteric stuff.
We got Kate, Lucia, She's got your girl Kate back
in sales over here.
Speaker 4: Which she's looking like she has not aged.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a viral thing going around of different
famous girls that look like they haven't changed since the
nineties and the two thousands. Yes, and Kate was one
of them. Let's pull that up. Do you remember what
it was titled? It does look pretty interesting? It was
who are the other girls on it?
Speaker 4: When Stefani.
Speaker 1: What Aguilera? She?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Christina Aguilero is one.
Speaker 1: So basically, is this hurt? This is what twenty years apart? Yeah,
that's crazy, I know. So people are the conspiracy goobers
are like, it's clones. They're like Gucci Mane, they got clone.
Speaker 4: Well, some of them are so drastic, like Donna Tella Versace.
That was really drastic. Christine.
Speaker 1: What didn't that turn into a goblin? What do you mean?
Speaker 4: Well, but then they made her look like regular again.
Speaker 1: Oh, I see you're saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who was one of the other ones, Christina Aguilera?
Speaker 1: Uh no, there was another one. You said it was
a Katy Perry. No, it wasn't Katy Perry. Julie Roberts, No,
you were the one telling me about.
Speaker 4: It exactly who I'll say more.
Speaker 1: You can't remember anyway, some of these celebrity women are
not aging somehow, And is it they were saying that
about Skater He was a skater boy. And by the way,
the conspiracy theory is not true about her. She wasn't replaced.
That's really dumb. So this is her. Now, where's a
good picture. What do you think?
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: She looks good.
Speaker 1: There we go.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, maybe they're vampires that they're not aging because they're
vampires exactly.
Speaker 4: Lucian is one of the vampires.
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 4: The characters in Underworld.
Speaker 1: Well, this one is interesting because it deals with it's
a cover for the idea of the illuminate confirm but
they're experimenting with uh genetics and DNA through blood and
we have the moonchild imagery from Crowley. This one is
actually like straight up Crowley stuff. I feel like you're
not reading my notes. Maybe you can't read. Oh, I'm like, no,
wonder you're skipping all the juicy DEDs.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lucian, which is who that's the Barbosa or not Barbosa?
What's his name?
Speaker 8: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: The the actor, the famous British actor that plays not
Barbosa but Davy Jones. Bill NYI is the main guy
in this, right right him? Yes, okay, And this is
all about bloodlines. And so it's about bloodlines because all
of this vampire crap is like an allegory for the
elite and bloodline families exactly. Well, that word will ding
the stupid thing, so I'm trying to avoid that word.
So being bitten is like an initiation in this you
actually go through an initiatory process. There's a question of
genetic hybrids, vampire and lichens mixed together, cross breeding. This
is all just about genetic bloodlines of the elite being crossbred.
So the analogy is that the use of the vampire
is the same as being initiated into or being brought
into the power elite, the elite of those who who
I can't read my notes, I can live.
Speaker 4: Forever because he sleeps for a long periods of time.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, he's kind of like a like he's like a
David Rockefeller's like a Lord Ralph Chold. I can't tell
what I have important notes, I promise you, but I
can't read them. Selene. That's the KP. Becastell character, right, Yeah,
And that's actually the name of a moon goddess, right,
so that her title is moon goddess. And you'll notice
in the opening sequence, right, it's like it's her with
the moon, or at least on the cover of the poster.
So she's like a moon child type of thing. Right,
that's a Crowllian thing from his novel Moonchild. That's giving
birth to like is it, but babies are giving birth
to like Sucuba, like through a succubas type of situation
where you have.
Speaker 4: A moonchild will just be one that was conceived during a.
Speaker 1: They'reing a ritual, but they're dedicated to the deity, right, Yeah,
So she hooks up with the ancient occult history tones,
she learns all the background and instead of a vampire,
it's a grand pyre. Right. So that's the build Night character.
He's like the head of the vampire Illuminati, and the
Awakening ritual is what this is all about, which is
a resurrection that brings him back. It's a blood right
and there's also genetic memories that are stored in blood,
which is pretty fascinating. It looks like one of the
scenes is I don't know if this is true, but
it looks like it's filmed at a Ralph Child estate.
This isn't surprising though many films like Batman Returns I
want to say Ninth Gate maybe even used a famous
Ralph Child mansion. The bad guys end up hold up
in a giant corporation called Zio Decks, which is interesting
because I mean, is that suggesting something Zio related? And
it's about ultimately cloning and getting the blood to essentially
create immortality. So the bad guy wants immortality, and we'll
find the same thing in Blade Rather that's ultimately about
immortality as well, right, because vampires live longer, but they
want to be immune to ever dying, and so that's
why they're trying to cross.
Speaker 4: Breed, and don't they want the wolf DNA.
Speaker 1: That's why I just said. They're trying to cross breed
because of the weakness of the vampire, and so they
want to use the strength of the lichen to fix
the weakness of the vampire. So yeah, ultimately this is
like an allegory for what you read about in say
Charles Galton Darwin's book where he talks about elite bloodlines
and how important it is the three celled platelets of blood,
and it's actually in a little triad, which is pretty wild.
Immortality is hidden away in Michael's genetic code. He's the
liking guy, that's right. And so the vampires understand that
they're cursed, but they want to lift the curse of
mortality to become immortal because they can still die, but
if they can lift the curse, then they cannot die
in any way. And so this ends up being a
combination or reconciliation of opposites. So there's this alchemical idea
where the lichens and the vampires have to cross breed.
The synthesis is supposed to produce the alchemical reconciliation of
the opposites to create aware pire or a vamp wolf. Right, Yeah,
are aware vamp aware pire or a vamp wolf like?
And uh so it is an alchemical process and that's
actually what the film is about. It's pretty crazy that
something so kind of goofy uh and you know, I
mean it's not like a Actually it's not surprising because
we've seen that on this channel. You know, even some
of the most innocuous seeming comedies or kind of comic
book movies are actually packed with a lot of deep
esoteric union, Chrollian, alchemical, cabalistic imagery.
Speaker 4: What do you think is the first archetype for a vampire?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad you asked that, because that reminds
me that David Patrick Carey did a really good talk
a couple of years ago on vampires and their history
and their symbology, and he talked about them as essentially
a symbol for the devil, for the demonic, for anything evil,
because it's parasitic, it feeds on life, it feeds on blood.
Leviticus says, of course, the life is in the blood,
and that's why in Christianity we feed on the deified
flesh of Christ in the Eucharist. Right, So, vampire movies,
I think hint at fundamental religious truths that, even though
they're evil creatures, in the films, there's some notion that
there's a need for sacrifice, and there's a need for
partaking of and consuming the sacrifice, the blood, et cetera.
That's what the Eucharist is. But of course vampires are cursed,
and so they don't have the Eucharist. They have to
feed on the next best thing, which is living people.
And that's the blood of human beings, or that demons
feed upon us in our life force.
Speaker 4: What about Lilith and that story of being the first
that's a kind of a vampire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely good. Good analogy there. And now if you
didn't watch it, go sure, be sure and go watch
David Patrick Harrey's Vampire Talk. Maybe i'll link that later.
There's a super chet.
Speaker 4: Ww Curious. What kind of music do you enjoy?
Speaker 1: J I listened to a lot of different things. I
like a lot of electronica, a lot of trance, a
lot of techno, a lot of house music. But I
also listened to everything from reggae, Peter Tosh, Bob Marley
to Oasis, Depeche Mode. I like a lot of Uh.
I like York, I like I'm just looking at my
playlist right now. I mean, I think you get the idea.
I'm not going to sit here and just read all
these out all day long.
Speaker 4: But he likes Florence the Machine.
Speaker 1: I like Florence in the Machine. Are I don't listen
to any as much as I used to, but I
like I like Kenya.
Speaker 4: He likes soundtracks, uh.
Speaker 1: Some I like back a lot, Chemical Brothers, Massive Attack,
a lot of nineties stuff. I like Chris Isaac. Yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 4: Oh we just went to Alan Howard the concert at
the Film Festival.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that's synthesizer music. So that's classic John Carpenter music.
And I don't really like to sit around listening to that.
I just like the vibe of it, because you know,
eighties movies not a listen I don't listen to any
eighties hair metal. I'm not a bon Jovie kind of dude. So,
and I'm not dissing you if you are, I don't
know if people are dissing in you. And it is
actually really awesome. She's actually a classical composer. She's not
a new age. But what else is? Let me see
what's in my playlist The Cure, Cypress, Hill t, Daft Punk, London, Grammar,
London Grammar, Depeche Mode, Dirty Vegas, Dip Low, Debbie Brothers, Duran,
Durant Ivor, Ellie Golding, Elvis Enigma.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of singles, but they're not I like,
actually like a lot of ninety stuff. I like garbage
now and I used to like garbage in the nineties.
I like them now. Yeah, so oh goldfrap rhymes.
Speaker 4: I know who you were thinking of? What Lindsay Lohan?
Speaker 1: Yes, somebody found vampire. Lindsay Lohan is looking like she
because there was a picture of her like ten years
ago looking rough, right, and then something happened and she's
like restored to uh clone beauty or something like. She's like, yeah,
she got fixed somehow. How are they doing it? What
is the secret of the celebrities and their beauty techniques?
Remember that picture when she was looking really rough?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, mel Gibson's task force is going to.
Speaker 1: Go in and maybe mel Gibson's task Force has already
fixed Lindsay and the and the select.
Speaker 4: We thought, then.
Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan's face has the internet obsessed obsessed? You thought,
what what are you saying?
Speaker 4: You thought the task force was going to cut the
crime out?
Speaker 1: No, they're just there to beautify it. They're they're doing
glow ups right, Yes, JV three two dollars.
Speaker 4: Hey, Jamie, did you get you a double espresso? Yeah,
he's got one.
Speaker 1: I got one on my own. No, she didn't get
it any more in that all right, Thank you guys.
If you want to support, you can always send us
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appreciate that. Let's see what's the next one? Van helsing
hand Belsen.
Speaker 4: That was goofiest.
Speaker 1: It is the goodiest, but people didn't realize that there's
actually weird Kabbalistic stuff at the end of this. I
noticed it this time through I never noticed it before.
Speaker 4: Quasi modo.
Speaker 1: And this also has Kate in it, but it is
not related to the Underworld world, which when we were
watching this, I was like, is this related to Underworld?
I don't, I don't understand, but it's not go ahead
quasi mood. Oh you can't read this? No, Well, Quasimoto
makes an appearance in this, doesn't he Frankenstein and igor
Igor is like Quasi Moto pretty much right, except it's
Phara mirror from Lord of the Rings plan.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: Remember the Vatican has a like a giant underground intelligence
network and they're doing He's like q from Bond.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there it's really dumb, Like the Vatican knows
that they have to use all the means at their disposal,
such as Van Helsing the assassin to go and kill
the vampires, and that's Hugh Jackman. And the Vatican secretly
runs and works with all the good religions. So ironically,
Van Helsing was actually telling us the truth about Vatican
too a long time ago. You know what I'm talking about,
because there's like Buddhists down there and underneath the Vatican.
You don't remember this. When Van Helsing goes and meets
with Faramir who's playing Igor, the Quasimoto Monk, he's like
Q from James Bond. Yeah, and he's got all this
alchemist crap underneath the Vatican. Yeah, and they've got like
darts for dark guns for vampires. It's really stupid. And uh,
he's equipping Hugh Jackman to go kill Dracula. Yes, and
the cardinals commission it because he's part of a secret
society that the Vatican runs.
Speaker 4: It's the Italian Ministry of Spooky Things.
Speaker 1: The Vatican Ministry is spooky things. Yeah, yeah, super jet
right here.
Speaker 4: I don't count.
Speaker 1: Oppositeur. It's conjunction of opposites. He's talking about alchemy, storm the.
Speaker 4: Cat three dollars. My favorite horror movie is The Grudge.
Speaker 1: WHOA, Now that's a rare one. I actually just watched
this the other night because we were doing a Sarah
Michelle Geller Buffy thing and I was like, I forgot
this Buffy horror movie. I assume you mean maybe the
Japanese one. I don't, but the Buffy one was pretty
goofy with that little make up, dirty face. Japanese boy,
that's not scary at all. What have you seen it?
Speaker 4: Most ghosts are little children that died like a untimely death.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a huge flop to I think the
garage was.
Speaker 4: But we just made a master list of horror movies.
Speaker 1: Well I did it from We did it from my lecture. Yeah,
so let's get back to this. You can't read it.
Dracula got him some uh some, he got him a
little a little hoe nest over here in Romania. Right,
he got him some three oh fours stashed in Romania.
Speaker 4: What I don't like those?
Speaker 1: He's like a tait. He's got three oh four is
stashed in Romania? Right?
Speaker 4: Yes, he got do you got three?
Speaker 1: He's got a fifteen hundreds there. Yeah, he's part of
the Knights of the Holy Order of something I forgot.
It was really stupid, But it's a secret society in
the Vatican that commissions them to go kill there's nine
generations of bloodlines. Again, it's all really stupid. The only
thing that's worth mentioning, I think is that when you
eventually get to the showdown between Hugh Jackman and Dracula,
there's this discussion in front of a giant window, and
the window pane window panes are actually structured like the
Sepharat of the Kabbala, right of the of the Tree
of Life and the Kabala, and we I know that
because that that that's accurate, because when they have this
conversation in front of that window. I don't see it
in the trailer here, but he says, uh. Dracula says,
I am the left the left hand of God, and
you are the right hand of God, which is a
cabalistic idea that God uses as good and evil as
his left and right hands right like Yakin and Boaz
good and evil or flip sides of the same coin.
So the whole film is like just that God uses
good and evil. He says, I'm the left hand of God.
What do you think of that? And then at the
end he gets they cremate Kate beckhamsale and he like
rides off. It's really stupid. He looks up into the sky.
This is the dumbest ending of any movie.
Speaker 11: It was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's in the clouds.
Speaker 1: She's and she looks down him in the clouds. This
is over here. This is so stupid. It's probably one
of the dumbest movie endings ever. And this movie was
was really stupid. But it does have that odd cobaalistic
line in it. But so here is at the very end,
and they've cremated her body. They've torched it, ben Helsing
and Ferimir up here on the on the hill right,
and then he looks up in the sky and then
her stupid face shines down upon him in the clouds.
Where was it up here?
Speaker 6: It is.
Speaker 5: There?
Speaker 1: You can barely see her there she is, I see, yeah, yep,
Kate Beckhen frail right, she's up there, barely can see her.
Speaker 4: You want to read this, okay, Nephelin desk squad. Have
you ever seen the Believers with Martin Sheen? Of course,
in the opening credits to the Ninth Gate looks like
the Vatican walls and.
Speaker 1: Doors opening, Absolutely, dude. In fact, one of the first
podcasts that Jamie and I did was Believers and Voodoo stuff.
So we're going to get to know Sparratu in a minute.
But because Robert Eggers did The Witch and he also
did know Su. But the reason I brought it up
is that it's one of the first things that Jamie
and I did. He also did a voodoo podcast and
it has the believers on Thereasi modo here it is.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1: This is old school eight years ago. Look at that.
So in this podcast we covered Believers serving the Rainbow, Angel, Heart,
Skeleton Key, and Living lad Die. So this ten year
almost ten years of Dan Jamie movie podcast. Look at that.
So go check that out, dog. But thank you Nefflin
Deth Squad. Bobby.
Speaker 4: See, I'm pretty sure Dracula called Van Helsing the left
hand of God. He never called him included himself as
one of the hands.
Speaker 1: Okay, The point still stands that phraseology of left hand
of God is kabalistic phraseology. So whether he said it
or was talking about Van Helsing is whatever. Okay, it's
he says that when there's like the symbol of the
sufferra behind Hugh Jackman on in the mirror in the window,
it's the window frame or structured like a sufferron.
Speaker 4: I just can't stop thinking about that stupid face in
the clouds.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean happy ending, I guess even though she
got burned up, I mean they cremate her. So that's
just really terrible. Now do you want to do? Uh?
This is the best of the vampire movies by far.
Speaker 4: I think Dracula nineteen ninety two with Keanu Yeah.
Speaker 1: And there's actually an esoteric thing going on in this,
believe or not. I did not expect her to be
anything esoteric in this movie. I've seen this movie many
times over the years, but Jamie and I watched it
recently and I put on my esoteric thinking glasses for
this one, and there actually was some stuff that I
wasn't I'd never before. So let's get into the esoteric
elements of the actually good vampire movie, the best one
that I'm aware of.
Speaker 4: Well, did you remember that it started fourteen sixty two
Constantinople Fall of Yes.
Speaker 1: Because there's actually you can take the Dracula pill if
you haven't, by the way, because people think of Dracula
as as like super villain, but actually Dracula was fighting
the Muslims and I was deep hilled a long time ago,
not in a gay way, in a Dracula way.
Speaker 4: Somebody sent us a big, long super chat about Dracula,
like a.
Speaker 1: Couple of years ago, probably, But also if you look
up his even like his Wikipedia, he was in this
odd kind of middle ground to where it's not really
clear whether he was Orthodox or Uni eight. Maybe he
was Orthodox and maybe he was Uniate, or maybe he
flip flopped between or wasn't sure, so it's kind of
a weird in between scenario. But he's like fending off,
you know, these Muslim hordes. So I don't actually think
he's a bad guy. If you look into the history
of Vladdim Paler. Now the movie is weird because it's
it's not a Christian film, but it has all this
Christian imagery that ends up being this kind of gnostic allegory.
I mean, I know that's a shocker, Like what movie
isn't anstic thing in Hollywood? But it's not. It's not
exactly clear whether he was Ortho or Unia, but he
could have could have been anyway. So here we got
Kinko Reeves is playing what's the guy's name, I forget
his name, the lawyer who's sent to, you know, help
Dracula get to England, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, what's his name.
Speaker 1: Dracula. No, we're not a writer, Gary.
Speaker 4: Yes, he his wife killed herself and so he's.
Speaker 1: Like, oh yeah, in the past, that's.
Speaker 4: Right, going through time yearning for it.
Speaker 1: So it's quasi orthodox, yeah, because Byzantium falls to the
Turks and win on a rider is his girlfriend in
the fourteen hundreds, and she dies, and so he makes
a deal with the devil. He says, I'll never serve
God because you know, I lost, won the war whatever.
Speaker 4: And he lost his bride. He's pissed at God and
he was.
Speaker 1: Part of the Order of the Dragon. Jamie wrote down,
people need to be Dracula pilled. She no way, she
unlived herself. Yeah, okay, that's right. And so then he
made a deal with the devil because she's damned now, right,
So now he doesn't know what to do exactly, So
he's cursed. Bobby's he says, or five dollars the best
Raculum movie is the one with Leslie Nielsen. Well, you
decided yourself as either gen X or Boomer, because nobody,
nobody under gen X or Boomer knows who Leslie Nielsen is.
But I've never really thought Leslie Nielsen stuff was funny.
I liked it when I was a kid. But you
may have your Leslie Nilsen appreciation since you're paying money
as a pay piggy, so shout out to you.
Speaker 4: No'll there's an inverted cross on his floor.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, well he gets inverted when he's when it's
everything's inverted because of his packed for the devil. And
this is actually shot really well because they shoot things
upside down. A lot of scenes show him crawling upside
down on the on the ceiling and that's all, you know.
I think really well done. I mean, this is the
best Fanpire movie by far. I don't think there's nothing
superior to this. Francis Orcoppola is kind of a weirdo.
I'm not defending him as a person or anything. I
don't know him or obviously Nick Cage or anything, but
we love Nick Age and uh Franz Forcoo has made
several good movies and this is the best fan part
of me in my opinion.
Speaker 4: Well, this is roughly the same plot as Nosferatu that
we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 1: Well, these are based on the book. The book.
Speaker 4: Yeah, loosely. R.
Speaker 1: Kaziani sends one dollar. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Here's a Lula that Alula j and Jamie streams might
just be my favorite thing on the internet. Don't forget
to try and make time for Lord of the ringstream No, Rush,
just want you to remind you. I know you're both busy.
Speaker 1: We have been talking about that for a long time.
You're right, and we got a bunch of notes. We
just haven't got to it yet. Yeah, all right, So
back to the esoteric elements in this the there's the
human sacrifice element. I mean, this is he's basically like
who's the Old Testament King? He's like my Nasa basically,
I mean, Dracula is at the point of like, you know,
feeding youths to his Romanian three oh fours.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the vampires are also a metaphor for sex
because she's reading Arabian nights and yeah. And then in
Noasaratu she summons him because she's so lonely and they
make a s X pact.
Speaker 1: Yes, I forgot to mention that more one of the
more obvious imagery things going on with vampires's sex. So absolutely.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Now, Gary Oldman plays this really well. I think this
is probably one of his He's probably most known for
this role. This is probably his most famous role. He's
a very good Dracula, like.
Speaker 4: His costumes in this, and I like when he turned
into rats.
Speaker 1: Yes, and even when Ona Ryder does well in this.
And she's an interesting person because if you don't know,
her godfather is Timothy Leary, which I've always thought is
really weird. And so she was like hanging out from
the earliest days with like high level CI L s
D people.
Speaker 4: So it's interesting the understanding they're having of the sex
appeal of a young maiden in those days and that
the marriage keeps it keeps her safe from attacks from
the other side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in the new one or in.
Speaker 4: General, well in both and in general, like even Bromstoker
was kind of putting this together like it's.
Speaker 1: Like a spiritual contract that cubas.
Speaker 4: Can't get to her or the incubists can't get to her.
She's in her marriage and being satisfied because whenever he
goes away is whenever the troubles all the.
Speaker 1: Rich the rich man, he holimony. He don't want to
pay alimony. Yeah, even though he is is he rich,
it's not exactly clear if he's rich. Sort of.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got dusty bags of coins, so maybe yeah,
he's got like I.
Speaker 1: Guess he's got old objects that could be well, yeah,
it could be it could be well something worth something. Okay,
So this one is weird because they bring in this
weird uh other girl who's sort of the sex pot.
I don't know how you're supposed to. Yeah, she's like, yeah,
she's a bad influence friend. And then she also lures
Dracula in and Dracula possesses her. She gets demonically possessed,
and she dresses like the scarlet woman. She's like the
scarlet woman who joins with the beast. This is very
crowley and stuff. I would not be surprised if Coppola
wasn't into too crowley. I love the way they shot
this with the green mist. I thought that was excellent.
Like the cinematography in this one is phenomenal. I mean
we went back and watched this and I was just
like this is just like the.
Speaker 4: Best dude you said drag Kumla.
Speaker 1: Yes, Dragon is basically just trying to get late, dude
and knows Farato. It's like Sarmon trying to get late.
That's all it is. Just Sarmon gets late. That's it.
That's the whole movie. But I mean, look at the scene.
That's just awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the peacocks are.
Speaker 1: Cool and then yes, excellent makeup set design. And you
can tell in the new one they were giving a
lot of homage to the Coppola one, But I mean
it's just not anywhere near as good.
Speaker 4: Um. Yeah, he's an incubus and she's tripping on her
past life on absent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so basically we get this reincarnation motif where she
figures out, oh, actually I was you know, his uh
chick five hundred years ago, one hundred years ago, and
so maybe I'm actually supposed to be with him, and
she starts to fall under his thrall. He got that
thrall aka mojo, he got raa drag krilla, yes, Dracula
drag rizla.
Speaker 4: Drags yes, okay, and they have an orthodox wedding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. This is what Yeah, when when we
got married, we did this, We did his dance around.
It's called the thousand candle dance. I'm just kidding. But
she's all dressed up again like the scarlet woman now
and she has to marry the.
Speaker 4: Beasts, right yeah, Oh, and she has to drink from
his side like a bad Eucharist or something.
Speaker 1: Yes. Keano has been holed up in the layer and
he's been fed upon by Dracula's hose, right his three
or fours and uh, he ends up eventually get turned.
His hair turns white, which is weird because that's like
when Moses goes up on the mountain. Then he comes
down and he seeing God. Well, in this situation, it's
as if he's actually seen the devil. So it's like
an inverse version of Moses. There's probably color magic going on,
because there's specific uses of different colors. Red and green
are used consistently throughout the film.
Speaker 4: Well, she's always wearing green, and I wonder.
Speaker 1: If that's the Well, she's innocent and green and then
she turns red.
Speaker 4: Right, But there used to be this color in the
Victorian era that killed everybody. That dye was toxic and
they would make like dresses and wallpaper and curtains out
of this green dye. But it turned out to be
like deadly interesting.
Speaker 1: Now, as the film comes to a climax, she takes
on his powers, right, she does spells, she becomes a sorceress,
and then eventually he says it is finished when he dies.
And so there's like this crystallogical symbology and imagery towards
the end, right, and you see this they the cameras
shows the dome of the sort of Orthodox cathedral that
they're in, and they've been deified, and it's them too
in the heavens, as if they've sort of transcended, and
he takes the eucharus and burns her on the forehead.
It's really weird, but I think it's supposed to signify
that they've exited the wheel of time and reincarnation. And
it was the alchemical love that brought them together and
freed them from the curse that Dracula was under. So
he actually had to return to the good side and
rescue his woman before he could live have the curse
of Satan and the pact with the devil lift.
Speaker 10: What do you think?
Speaker 4: This was probably the most well made of all the
Draculas I forgot.
Speaker 1: Anthony Hopkins is like the Van Helsing type character, but
he's kind of a goofball do so through his stream
labs or through YouTube memberships. And what's next, Yeah, you
don't want to talk about.
Speaker 4: Blade, Well we can do that one end, Griz Christopherson.
Speaker 1: We should end with Blade, not with it. I mean,
there's not a whole lot to say, just Blade is
my favorite, like not serious movie. Blade is also kind
of like Underworld in that it has this motif of
the Illuminate Confirm essentially are seeking to obtain the secrets
of bloodlines, genetics and immortality.
Speaker 4: Yes, and Blade is a genetic anomal operation.
Speaker 1: And who's the one? He's like the secret to the
whole thing.
Speaker 6: He is.
Speaker 4: In between worlds.
Speaker 1: Chris Chrisofferson is just grizzled, and you know, playing he's
always like a grizzled character, like Nulty or something.
Speaker 4: He's the most grizzled actor.
Speaker 1: There are some interesting tie ins though, with the Triads
and the Yakuza and what the film. The way it
presents the Illuminate Confirm is that they essentially run the
criminal gangs. So the vampires aka the Illuminate confirm. They
run the organized crime gangs and their quest though, is
for immortality. They don't really care about petty crime, but
they run the crime gangs and they run all this
stuff in order to obtain uh, the obtainum to obtain immortality.
So once again, it's an allegory for the real power
lead the.
Speaker 4: Human tr aff element too in the Eastern European. Isn't
that what Blade is about?
Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen it as many times.
Speaker 4: I have a franchise. They're like tracking down criminals who
t R a F F people Blade or the bad
guys who bad guys?
Speaker 1: Why would they be chasing down people that do that.
Speaker 4: No, they chase down the vampires who run the gangs
who do the organized crime.
Speaker 1: Does it specifically reference t R A F F I
C K I G. I can't remember.
Speaker 4: I think so because all of their underground clubs and
they're like meatpacking.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yes, so they're trafficking in people. They mentioned
that they have offshore accounts. They're like super rich. They
have all these you know, corporations and castles. So yeah,
this is like illuminate confirm.
Speaker 4: They even have a vampire Bible.
Speaker 1: Yes, good point.
Speaker 4: We're like the Codex I guess destroyed and Stephen Dwarf
is trying to decode the Bible code the vampire Bible
coat vaguely.
Speaker 1: The next one, they put up parasite. It's like there's
a parasite, remember in the second one, Yeah, a vampire parasite. Anyway,
we're gonna skip that. We'll move on to the climax,
which was I didn't care for this movie. I thought
it was not very good. And it's pretty obvious why
it wasn't that good, and that's because, well, we'll get
to it, but it's not Christian anymore. That that was
the weird part. Somebody said on an audio show I
was on. They were like, well that when he you know,
when he leaves he uh Kendel Reason ends up leaving
the castle in an Orthodox monastery. Yeah, but so what
I mean, the whole point is that she has to
unite with the beast. They call him the beast, so
it's like the woman marries the beast, like out of
the Apocalypse. They have all this apocalyptic terminology in the film,
and Willem Dafoe never references Christ or Christianity. He's always
referencing demonic solemnonic incantations.
Speaker 4: Well, and then he calls her a price of isis?
I know that's fine.
Speaker 1: So the movie start started out interesting because she, like
you said, makes this pact with Nosfatu. She sort of
accidentally calls upon him. I didn't exactly understand.
Speaker 4: He just said that her yearning awakened him from and
so he's like, do you want to marry me forever?
She's like bet and then so he is like graping
her from the underworld until I don't use the please
and until she gets married, and then that starts protecting her.
But then he's like, whoa, I don't get access to
you anymore now that you're under this new.
Speaker 1: Covenant, right, So it's weird Covenant theology going on in here.
He also seems to require virgin sacrifice. If you remember
when they go to Romania, right, that comes up that
the village takes a virgin out there to him. I
guess to feed his three or four's.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Exactly what that's.
Speaker 4: Well, but didn't they say she doesn't die, They just
you know, have sex with her.
Speaker 1: And I don't remember. I thought he feeds on her.
Speaker 4: No, well, I don't think she dies.
Speaker 1: Though, Okay, But anyway, they mentioned Paracelsus and Agrippa, who
are Renaissance era magicians and people just studied alchemy and
the arts, so that's in the background of all this,
again telling us that the Bramstoker one that Coppola did
definitely had this sort of alchemical imagery going on. I've
not read the novel. I've read Layer of the Whiteworm,
the other Bramstoker story, which which is interesting and has
some esoterical stuff going on too, But it begins with
his his sigil isn't a seven side or eight sided?
Speaker 6: No, his?
Speaker 1: And then in the movie is it eight seven?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So his.
Speaker 1: Sigil is a seven sided goddess sigil, which makes sense
because he's trying this whole time to unite with the goddess.
And Crowley also said that in his system, the seven
sided sigil is the goddess Lily, Lilith. Lily is Lilith exactly.
They speak of the plague that comes as a covenant curse,
so it's sort of like the curses of Egypt in
the Book of Exodus, right, there's blessings and cursings. The
covenant language is all also biblical and they speak of
the plague and the coming of Dracula as if it's
the apocalypse. It's the coming of the beast.
Speaker 4: When he comes to England on the Demeter right, and
he arrives as the plague of rats and the pale.
Speaker 1: Horse, right, he calls himself, I am the one. I'm
the pale Horse. I'm coming on, you know, bringing death.
You have him identifying himself as original sin. So she's
he says to you, to her, you know, I am
the desire that awakened within you. I am this the
original sin.
Speaker 4: Right, and then he was like saying, he's nothing but
an appetite.
Speaker 1: Right, mm hmm, Well, it's the pure passions and desire
of the beast. It's beast, you only beastial body, bodily desires.
Speaker 4: Just well, the way that they portrayed this, the seizure
and the climax and like the pleasure and the losing
your self was.
Speaker 1: Really it's just gross. It's not well done. There's a
lot of stupid stuff in it, and a lot of
just really gross stuff. It's like gross sex magic stuff.
And then, as Jamie pointed out, as we get towards
the climax, of the film. He does this inversion thing
where he says, I'm going to give you three days
and three nights. That's, of course christ three days, three
nights is like a reverse Easter. And then on the
third night or whatever, he essentially copulates with Lily, and
that's what assuages the beast. So that union where Isis
and Osiris join, and Willem Dafoe specifically identifies her as
a priestess of Isis, so it's nothing Christian. She's not
at all, you know, he says, you would have been
put to death in the Middle Ages, but now you're
going to save this because you're the priest. You're like
a priestess of Isis. So her bond with the beast
is what redeems us all to lift the plague. That's
what Willem Dafoe says. So this is absolutely not at
all in any sense Christian. It's one percent Chrollian. And
I think that makes perfect sense when you look at Eggers,
because Edgers himself says he's super into the occult, reading
all the occult. He loves Witchcraft, he loves I assume Curley,
So that to me puts it beyond any question that
that's what it's about.
Speaker 4: And it was a weird way to end it to that,
saying he'll never be dead and until she's dead, like
she couldn't conquer the beast and still go on to live.
She had to die to get rid of him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so essentially another virgin sacrifice, right. Well, that is
our vampire analysis. There are other vampire films. Daybreakers with
Ian Hawk is pretty good. I've never watched True Blood,
Jamie said. It was something that she thought was fun.
Speaker 4: Of course, I like that TV show What We Do
in the Shadows.
Speaker 1: That's funny.
Speaker 4: Look up the Colin Jhost one because that's like, how
so many people on the internet are They just get
on there and energy vampire people to death.
Speaker 1: That's not his name, that's the guy from Centering.
Speaker 4: Alive, Colin Robinson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. Yeah, the energy vampire character is funny.
What do you guys think? Are we missing any vampire movies?
We did a whole podcast on you want to watch
our Buffy show? You can watch it here. Bring that
up for you guys, because we covered all those a
couple of years ago. Yeah, Friday Night's a good one.
There's a lot of eighties ones that are fun we.
Speaker 4: Didn't cover once spent with Jim Carrey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oldman's Dracula is the funniest for two tuxedo mass
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I just saw today that apparently they're gonna bring back
Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson for some other Tree Detective,
which I mean the last two seasons were garbage, so
I mean they better do that if they want anybody
to watch it. Maybe. All right, thank you guys so much.
Remind me of what vampire movies we forgot to talk
about or we didn't mention that are your favorites. Put
them in the comments below. Tell us whatever ideas you
have for us to cover in terms of movies. You
want to see us do a podcast on some theme,
some director, some actor and their films. I like your suggestions.
I think we're gonna do sex bots very soon. Wifebot
movies are gonna be coming up soon. That'll probably be
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