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Speaker 2: Don't make me go back to that Matfie Wade Shock

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ain't no way to be alive.

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Speaker 1: Don't make me go back to ninety five wage shock,

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Ain't no way to be alive.

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Speaker 3: By big Just give me one lossome jacket.

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Speaker 4: Hey Giggy, just give me.

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Speaker 1: One more super Chance.

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Speaker 2: Pay Piggy, just give me one more sub Patchem pay Piggy,

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just give me one boom with my boot.

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Speaker 5: One on one missed to Anny mixed free years we

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had the baby. She went for such she won good cheek.

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Gotta lay down on my pants on the lambo because

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she don't like my bather. No, no, she got a

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diamond grip and the baby teeth. Coolest kid in lusty.

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But you know I'm not a matter red yell list

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and not the yell list. I float with the Transcendance.

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I give me a meeting Vic Genstein, investigate my girl philosophically. Yeah,

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do you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 4: I just want the money.

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Speaker 3: Heiggy, just give me one more Jacky, Giggy.

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Speaker 2: Just give me one more super jets. Hey Giggy, just

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give me one more sum Hey Niggy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just give me one. Yeah it up I'm sitting

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video girl. I want my heart once you win my world.

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I see you in the soup, but chat, I see

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you want to go from me.

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Speaker 1: I see you one of the.

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Speaker 6: Only fans, and you got my heart in your hand.

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Please don't crush your girl. I understand that.

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Speaker 1: But I'm brown, bunker.

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Speaker 7: Buncer, unco fuck up.

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Speaker 8: I got married.

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Speaker 9: I got married to a funcoop. We got wedding, come

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joined in the subway.

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Speaker 7: Shop.

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Speaker 1: I am mad.

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Speaker 9: I'm married to Alec.

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Speaker 7: Do we get joined?

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Speaker 1: Go white? As soon as subway?

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Speaker 4: He shot.

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Speaker 1: Specimens and biscuits and minerals. They come to even to

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my whole life is spit? What you got to do?

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Speaker 7: Mm hmm, what.

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Speaker 10: Offer?

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Speaker 9: I'm married to a boo hoop. We got wedding, but

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we got joined in the subway. He shot over.

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Speaker 1: And minerals. They come to with you vitiments and minerals.

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Then come from this year too.

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Speaker 7: Not Papa fuck over.

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Speaker 9: I got married. I got married to my funt b

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who we got waited. Oh, we got joined in the subway.

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Speaker 1: Sha, what should I do?

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Speaker 4: Find a friendly Italian restaurant with outdoor city nearby and

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texture to Luca.

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Speaker 7: Was in Modo.

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Speaker 8: Quasi quasi, quasi modo. Got lots of bitches calling me

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on my mole bone. Quasi modo. I got a natural

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flesh patch right there for my mole bone. I live

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a life cuasing modo. My bitches be calling me master model.

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You don't even understand this floid over flodo. When I

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get older, will I still have an aft shoulder?

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Speaker 5: Was it?

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Speaker 8: High school kids made good fun on me? You call

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me played over on this back part right, just the

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part quasimodo.

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Speaker 1: You don't even understand my floiod Oh, quasi modo.

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Speaker 4: You need a vampire song.

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Speaker 1: We're bathed in blood tonight, alright, we we're swimming in.

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Speaker 4: Blood, red light, Maxine in a pool of blood. Yes,

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what's up?

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Speaker 1: Ready for vampires? You haven't been on my show in

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a long time.

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Speaker 4: Walking through the j Dyer Show, I'm back from the

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dead on Jason Nelson's.

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Speaker 1: Uh brought back from the dead like a vampire.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is the evil genie.

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Speaker 1: This is how it rolls over here on my channel.

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I don't remember what you were on here last time

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doing talking about something movies. Put your phone up. I

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was talking on a huge offense. They don't matter. This matters.

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What they don't matter except they pay piggys. What's up

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pay piggy's y'all do matter? Deep down in my heart

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if you would hit like welcome, we already got people

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gifted membership shout out to what was I say? Read

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it out? We got a five dollars super chat from

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that first guy there. What's he saying?

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Speaker 4: I'm married to a Yes, he knows.

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Speaker 1: The vibe and then he gives five memberships.

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Speaker 4: Nice. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Finally we're gonna talk about yes Nos, Fraud two, as

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well as multiple vampire movies. We're gonna go deep. We're

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gonna go heavy. We've got a lot of analysis to

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get through, so let's start with what do you want

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to just we we did Substance. I'm gonna count it

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as a vampire movie. We might as well. Yeah, more

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of Demi Moore than I ever thought I would get.

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It didn't more like Demi too much. I want Demi less,

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not Demi Moore, because this was the grossest movie I've

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ever seen.

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Speaker 4: It was squeechy and squanchy and raunch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Demi less, Demi less, please. Next time I saw

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she was up for awards for this, I don't even

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follow a bunch of Hollywood awards nonsense? Do y'all follow that?

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I don't even know what it means. Did she win

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a I think so, golden trophy of some kind of

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golden apophas.

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Speaker 4: Trophy, golden globe? Well this has eggs symbolism in it.

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Speaker 1: And well the woman is the you know, birth giver,

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so it makes sense. And she is a supermodel who

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is aging. She's a fitness woman. She's like a Jane

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Fonda aging.

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Speaker 8: And then she.

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Speaker 1: Wants a fountain of youth because they're ready to hire

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somebody new. They're tired of her, and they find this

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girl that they want to hire, but turns out that's

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her as a younger version of her because she has

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been taking the substance, which is this weird product that

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you get in the mail from shady dudes in an

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alley and it makes you younger.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is interesting because it's about your treating your

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younger self with care because you're going to have to

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take care of your older self. Also, do you know

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what I mean? Like, be kind to your body in

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its youth because it's going to have to carry you through.

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And she has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame,

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which is her immortal star, right, and as her body's decaying,

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so it's kind of like this the Walk of Fame,

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the Star of the Sidewalk Member, it was like kind

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of decaying also, And Dennis Quaid in this is also

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equally as disgusting as the squandchy parts of her coming

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out of her own back and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Remember that it's very John Carpenter. I didn't expect this

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to be full of goo monsters that I would see

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in a John Carpenter movie, but that's actually what this

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was all about. It gets super, super gross. It's hard

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to watch. It's actually not a bad movie if you

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can stomach all of the grossness. The spewing of the

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whole crowd that seems really weird. And I'm sure it's

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trying to make these statements like, oh, women are pieces

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of meat and women are sacrificed in the ultra Hollywood

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and all this stuff. But yeah, I mean, which is

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kind of true. But it's just it was so gross

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it was hard to watch. But there might also be

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an mk ultra element where we have mpdd ID going on.

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Does she have a associative state where you know, she

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has this alternate personality that she thinks is the younger her,

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she doesn't remember what's going on when the other one's

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out right, so she thinks she's passed out in this

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secret room that she's built in her condo. The other

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one takes over and goes and does the stuff throughout

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the day, and then they end up having this battle

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between each other. So it kind of reminded me of like,

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you know, Split with James McAvoy the Shamaland and you

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have the characters all battling inside of Macavoy's head. It

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was kind of like that, But I don't think it

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was supposed to be about that. I think it's supposed

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to be about just the idea that the whole image

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of women is controlled by patriarchal men and they're you know,

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using women as meet and so I think it had

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a feminist message, but beyond that, I was not I mean,

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it was visually interesting, it was definitely it had the macabre.

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It was definitely a horror movie, but not a lot

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of fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And she ended up having to steal from the

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one body to stay in the young body, and so

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there's again another reference to like how you treat yourself

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in your youth. You're stealing your life away at the

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end of your life.

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Speaker 1: The crazier you live when you're young, the more you

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regret this when you're older. Yeah, so you're basically stealing

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from yourself in the future. Yes, it's like the reverse

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of bitcoin. Bitcoin is like you're giving yourself money in

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the future. This is taking away your life force from

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the future.

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Speaker 4: Well, and she doesn't live in her old body. She

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just kind of waits around to be in the young

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body again. And she's cruel to the old body, you know,

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she like locks it in the darkness and like, at

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least you could put the old body in the bed,

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but no, they're they're very cruel to each other actually,

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and even to the point where she still so much

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life from the older body that the old body starts

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turning into like a witch goblin hand remember that, Yeah,

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I mean it.

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Speaker 1: Turns full goblin. Yeah, not just a hand, the whole thing.

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Like gradually she becomes this hag. Yeah, and that ends

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up being the dominant character that then goes to the

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award show at the end, trying to get an Emmy

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or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what did I say. Oh, it's a metaphor for

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your life as a whole. If you abuse your body

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when you're young, you recredit when you're older.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then oh, a critique on society's idea about the

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value of the elderly.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's an interesting point. Yeah, in a consumerist youth

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based right. Crowley talked about the age of the crown

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and conquering child infantil infantile era will be worshiped, the

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idea of perpetual youth. You know what I'm talking about.

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You're always the word ship nioty. The worship of youth

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is the crole and.

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Speaker 4: Aon and to get people to accept eu t h E.

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Speaker 1: N yes, youtha stuff. Yeah, and this movie has that

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as part of the point is that once you're no

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longer useful to the industry, right, you can be discarded. Yeah,

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because you're a useless substance and you're a substance.

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Speaker 4: Oh good point. You are just a substance.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to all my substances.

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Speaker 4: In the chat, Goo babies, how are you guys?

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Speaker 1: What's up all y'all? Goo babies? Shout out to my

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good babies in the check. We gotta read the super

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chat there about w W George.

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Speaker 4: Been looking forward to this analysis for a while. Pumped,

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We're gonna bite your neck and.

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Speaker 1: You got more over here, okay, right here?

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Speaker 4: Question for Jamie one dollar, what are some of your

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favorite movies and books?

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Speaker 1: Quasimodo favorite movies and books. That's our favorite song. It's

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funk pop and quasi mode riff tracks, rip tracks is fun.

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Speaker 4: That's like your happy place. All other movies and books

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are like kind of like work. So for fun we

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watch a lot of like Mystery Science Theater and roof tracks.

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How about that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we did for fun and book wise,

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what do you like?

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Speaker 4: Books are like something else?

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Speaker 1: Are they part of your work?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So I can't remember the last time I read a

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book just for fun fun.

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Speaker 1: Babysitters Club?

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Dean cons arl Stein, No, just kidding. That

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was when you're a kid. You read that? My favorite books?

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Speaker 1: Gorge, I don't know, Fly one dollar.

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Speaker 4: I plan to sell my bitcoin on Bullish News, anticipating

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later this year. The bitcoin reserve narrative is likely making

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a top and misleading investors Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I disagree with everything there, so I wouldn't sell my bitcoin.

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think that it's misleading anyone. If we get it and

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they do purchase one million bitcoin over five years, in

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five years, bitcoin will be one million dollars, that's my thesis.

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Speaker 4: DJ DJJ. Can you do year of love towards Jamie today?

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love to you wonderful Internet denizens, I gotta take the

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anger out on somebody. I gotta be mean to somebody.

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Speaker 4: You're stealing my love from they're stealing your love.

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Speaker 1: From the Yes, they're sapping. They're the energy vampires, actually

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sapping the law to them.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to bring up energy vampires because that's my

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Speaker 1: That comes up in you know that comes up in

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Speaker 4: Okay, super chat, what the Frankish melkitee jay? Have you

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seen the movie Seven? It's a movie about a serial

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killer who's a Catholic extremist. The movie was the infra

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inspiration for Saul.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about David Fincher's Seven with Brad Pitt

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and Mold and for you. Then, of course I've seen seven.

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I've seen all of David Fincher movies. I think we've

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covered We've mentioned him at least on a lot of podcasts.

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But anyway, thank you for that.

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Speaker 4: Super Chet for night Club was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dragon Tattoo did all the Dragon Tattoo movies. He

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did The Killer, the Michael Fassmenner programmed Assassin Killer movie. Yeah,

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which actually the second time I watched I thought it

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was pretty good. I changed my analysis of it is

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that it for what is this blazing storm?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so oh when she's on the she's a star

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and then her little goo face like crawls over to

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the star.

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Speaker 4: She's addicted to the youth experience and she becomes the

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old lady from the Shining and even the bathroom from

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the Shining was there exactly, and now she's a gollum.

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But she wants to stop. And they have this thing

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where you are the matrix, you're your own matrix, and

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then they place what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: I remember them saying that, what do you mean you're

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you are the matrix?

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Speaker 4: Like the old lady gave birth to the young.

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Speaker 1: Of the matrix of the womb, not the matrix, like no, yeah.

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Speaker 4: You're right, the matrix and you have to fight each other.

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Sunset Boulevard, remember that movie.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah. Norman Desmond, the Demi Moore character is very

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similar to Norma Desmond and Sunset Boulevard. Who's an you know,

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aging actress who is still essentially gone. She's gone insane

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because she's living in her glory days.

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her star on the walk. So she's just a crawling

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goo baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jamie loves any movie with goo babies.

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Speaker 2: Goo babies, James Come True, goo babies babies.

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Speaker 4: So the goo baby is absorbed into the Hollywood Walk

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of fan.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So essentially she's a substance that gets resorbed into

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the Hollywood machine.

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Speaker 11: Right, yes, uh, super chat are you hey, skyscraper philosopher

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Christian horror fan here, what are your thoughts on the

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moral dilemma of seeing horror films that glorified satanic rituals?

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Speaker 4: You whole like nost.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like nos f autu. We're gonna get to

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that and I'm going to talk about why I thought

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it sucked. But yeah, I think you should have some

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kind of like stopping point of you know, I've never

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watched human Centipede or any kind of nasty stuff, but.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he'll turn it off. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Alternately, I don't think there's anything like inherently wrong with

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a horror movie. In fact, as I argue in my

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lecture at the Horror Convention, you know, horror really teaches

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virtue and vice because in almost all horror movies again

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that aren't focused on just graphic discussing violence, like most

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of the horror movies have the message that when you

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give into vice is precisely when you're opening it up

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to the demonic to come in, right, I mean, Final Girl,

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that's like the whole point is like she survives because

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usually she's the one that's virtuous, she doesn't give into

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the various vices. And no horror movies, you know, there's

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a long tradition in fairy tales, Western literature, Southern Gothic

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it's full of the macabre. So no, we shouldn't be

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these weird puritans who you know, If you're not going

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to read Flannery O'Connor novels or William Faulkner because they

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have elements of horror, then you're just a Protestant puritanical idiot.

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What's next? No more goo babies, no more good babies?

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Hallowed night? You want to read that?

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Speaker 4: Okay? Start investing in bootcoin. Last year, I'm already celebrating

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becoming a bitcoin billionaire.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about, Bitcoin zillionaires. On the March,

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the Empires on the Run excellent. Her name Lasha, Her

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name Lasha.

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Speaker 4: Garmin gam Mar Joba. What do you think modernist paradigm

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will be returned? Changed to traditionalism?

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Speaker 1: Or is it the end of Will's I don't know

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what gamar Joba is and I don't understand the question.

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So will we return traditionalism or just the power of

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the will?

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure the end of free will?

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Speaker 8: Is it that?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it means. Vinnie H two pounds

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do you like? What do you think about really Scott's

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Kingdom of Heaven? I remember thinking it was like woke,

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anti Christian Muslim crap.

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Speaker 4: So I Orlando Bloomin. I think so that's the only

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thing I know about that.

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Speaker 1: You didn't watch it, I don't think so, not a fan.

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All right, what's next, Let's do what her name is?

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Queen of the Dance? What's her name?

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Speaker 4: Aliyah?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Aliyah. Now there is rumors right of her in

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the Ditty circles and all of that, in the jay

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Z circles. I don't know all the lore. What do

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you think?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so she was part of that when she

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was very young, and the rumor is that she was

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Jayz's girlfriend right in age. You know, there's all that

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stuff around her death is mysterious and that she had

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just got done with this movie. She was a rival

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to Beyonce.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she was set to have the kind of career

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that Beyonce.

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Speaker 1: Went on to have. Well, I am an e diva,

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so you know, I gotta figure out. You know, I

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have a camaraderie with my sisters. Oh yeah, being a diva,

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So I gotta know what's up and who to watch

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out for. I gotta watch out for Beyonce, right yeah,

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there's a lot of death to the world, right yeah.

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Speaker 4: You gotta pay your respects or they'll be hell to it.

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Speaker 1: Now, this movie is funny because it's not good at all,

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but it's so bad it's actually funny. And I never

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watched it until Jamie was like, hey, we should watch

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Quay of the Dan And then I'm like, what even

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is that? And oh, it's a vampire movie. I didn't

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realize that it was like the sequel to.

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Speaker 4: What's that? A Rice? Vampires?

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Speaker 1: And it's not a sequel to that, it's part of.

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Speaker 4: The Vampire Chronicles of.

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Speaker 1: Yes, are you serious? Yeah, yes, tripping this whole time.

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I didn't even realize that. And you're saying, he wrote

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this stupid story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so we all know now that interview with

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a vampire is it is from an Rice? Look at

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you eight, you know it's a little age.

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Speaker 1: It's taking Gray. We all know it's taking Gray.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we didn't realize that when we were young.

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We just thought vampires were kind of, you know, foppish.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was a Skittles thing when I

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watched it when it came out, and then I remember

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watching it in the two thousands. I was like, man,

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this is freaking turn this off. Yeah. So nineties moms

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loved interview with a vampire. They were in love with

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vampire Tom kOhm.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's a gay vampire.

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Speaker 1: Why would a mom like a skittles man.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a question we've been asking for a long time,

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like why did they steer young women to try and

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love monsters and wicked equal vampires and wear wolves and

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you know, demons from outer space and make them some

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kind of great lovers like Twilight. Right.

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Speaker 1: Well, even when in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which people

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were saying, are you going to be covering Buffy? We

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did a whole podcast on Buffy like two years ago.

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You can go watch that. But the Buffy Vampire episode

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is funny because even in that one, he has this

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you know, like overwhelming machismo and he can kind of

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just like entrance the ladies.

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Speaker 4: He can put you in there.

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Speaker 1: Don't know what a thrall exactly. He got that thrall.

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And that's why Lasha says, again for five dollars, I'm

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a Georgian. My girlfriend watched Knows Faratu six times in

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the cinema. Whoa dude, it made me grow a big mustache.

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Should not be scared as long as she doesn't have

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the mustache, then you're good. But if you had to

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grow the mustache? What does he say? How do he talk?

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That's rotun? What was the phrase? I already forgot the phrase? Though,

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will be my Can you pull up that clip? I'll

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read another super show. You pull up that clip BTC

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Chad one Dollar, Jay. I've heard you say I love

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you to Tristana and Sam, but never did Jamie. Oh,

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it's faking gray. They're trying to expose me as faking

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great than I was over here. I'm over here watching

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Tom kuhm vampire movies. I've been outed. I'm out of

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the Tom kuh closet right now. Hmmm, I got out

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a dog here? Do it all right? Jordy Okay, Puzzy,

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he needs a black omen the Pool, Jermaney and the Poor. Yeah,

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he's a bad Oleman Tool Journey and the Bullet. I

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want to read all the super chats in the.

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Speaker 10: You Have To Now and nineties Moms, Wolve Deal Love.

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I'm buying her bomb Colm, Uh.

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Speaker 4: You will obey my counselor That hurts my voice to

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do that.

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Speaker 1: So back to Aliyah. Yeah, she's over here trying to

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hook up with fake Robert Pattinson and this because he's

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a he's a rock and roll man, but he's in

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there like a shitty Evanescence band.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 4: Remember, I'm scared for this guy whose girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: Has been super chat jokes. I got to move on

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to this other skittles man.

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Speaker 4: All right, Aliyah is but he's a queen of vampires.

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Speaker 1: What you're forgetting the guy who's in the Evanescence band, Right,

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he's like in the shitty two thousand zero, like you know,

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Stained and Evan tool nine Olympus gets like a fred

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so he wakes up and he figures out that

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music is the most influential thing in the world now

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in the twenty first century.

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Speaker 1: Right, yes, so and here comes up, Here comes here

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come Aliyah coming now that statue. Yes, he looked like

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a he looked like a ghetto. He looked like a

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B grade. He looked like an E B T. Robert Pattinson,

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he'd kind of Robert Pattens you go Bay with a

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snap what t call.

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Speaker 4: He's basically figured out that rock stars are the new gods.

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Speaker 1: And so he's a vampire rock star and which is dumb.

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Speaker 4: By the way, there there's actually Fritz Lang German expressionist

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stuff in here. Yes, there is his music video looks

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like that. It's like punky Goth, no doubt, miss, It's like.

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Speaker 1: A nine Inch Nails video.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the vampires hate him because he's been open.

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Speaker 1: Now and this goes this is them a concert. This

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is actually so bad as worth watching.

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00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,119
Speaker 4: Well, this is kind of like True Blood where the

471
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,359
vampires want to be out in the open because supposedly

472
00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:33,480
they're like reformed or whatever, and they can drink the

473
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:38,240
synthetic blood instead of Yeah on a ling, gotcha, right,

474
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,559
here we go.

475
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:44,279
Speaker 1: Here's I need an HD trailer. Those other trailers were

476
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,799
garbage quality.

477
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:56,799
Speaker 4: The orphan Jesse a girl. She's a vampire bloodline, yes,

478
00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:59,319
but she's not one yet. She works for the Ministry

479
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:03,359
of Spooky Things or whatever. Remember I don't remember this

480
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,839
in England.

481
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:07,359
Speaker 1: The Minister Spooky Things.

482
00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:16,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't remember what it was called. And oh,

483
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:23,279
vampires absorb people's personalities. And so Akasha the most powerful

484
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,400
vampire mother or whatever. She's been sleeping this whole time,

485
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,359
waiting for Listat to come in making her.

486
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: And how did Aliyah pass away? What do we know her?

487
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:42,000
What that story was?

488
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 6: It?

489
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,799
Speaker 4: Was they entuned her for like eating the whole world?

490
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: What's the story of.

491
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: Her actual it was a plane crash.

492
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I forgot this, Okay, okay.

493
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 4: But her name was Akasha and then whole Stargate conspiracy

494
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:07,480
book about the records. And then there's something in the

495
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,640
movie called an kill. Is that like?

496
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:13,559
Speaker 1: And Lil, I don't remember you called.

497
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,119
Speaker 4: Her a trampart.

498
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,599
Speaker 1: Trampart meaning see, I was on point. My Zingers were

499
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:21,720
on point in this.

500
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: Yes, so he needs to eat more poets.

501
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 8: For his.

502
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 4: Lyrics because they suck well.

503
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: But what we're missing is this point. You didn't even

504
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,240
mention this, which is the idea that rock and roll

505
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,160
is essentially a Satanic sell your soul Illuminati sacrifice behind

506
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,880
the mic type of situation. That's the plot that's going on, right.

507
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,079
So in other words, you want to be corn, you

508
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,920
want to be tool, you want to be having essence,

509
00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:52,480
you want to be Fred Durst. You gotta sell your

510
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:53,720
soul to the double.

511
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: Dog corn inch nails.

512
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,079
Speaker 1: No other way than people that them dudes got popular.

513
00:31:58,319 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 4: She's got cornach nails.

514
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:02,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no other way that Fred Durst became that

515
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,680
popular without selling and sold to the devil. That's what

516
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:07,880
I'm sing. That's a conspiracy proof, right there.

517
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 8: Boy.

518
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: They also do a burning Man scene in a Yeah.

519
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: They're at like burning Man the rock and the rock

520
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,559
scene is pretty wild.

521
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 4: But that reminded me of astral World.

522
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:24,079
Speaker 1: Remember, yes, the vampire's attack in this nine inch Nails concert.

523
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,319
Here's his video. Anyway, it's a terrible movie, but it's

524
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,880
so bad that it's actually pretty fun. It's worth watching.

525
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,440
What's next?

526
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,279
Speaker 4: What if not Stained Disturbed? Remember those guys?

527
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:42,599
Speaker 1: Yes, how does that go? I don't know any of

528
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,359
those songs, and we're going to keep it that.

529
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: Oh but the girl Jesse becomes a vampire in the end,

530
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:55,960
so they kill the girl. Yeah, and the human girl

531
00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:58,079
becomes a right.

532
00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: There, Now that's her buying fake Robert Pattinson, it's like that.

533
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,359
He do got a smooth I like the vibe of

534
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,000
his villa, though he did have a nice villa. He on,

535
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:17,119
I got Twin Peaks villa going on? Or what's next?

536
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:19,119
Speaker 4: We got Underworld.

537
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: Let's let's get through Underworld in Van Helsti because those

538
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,599
are kind of stupid and there's not a whole lot

539
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,599
going on except for a little bit of esoteric stuff.

540
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,160
We got Kate, Lucia, She's got your girl Kate back

541
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,559
in sales over here.

542
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,359
Speaker 4: Which she's looking like she has not aged.

543
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:42,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a viral thing going around of different

544
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,759
famous girls that look like they haven't changed since the

545
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,839
nineties and the two thousands. Yes, and Kate was one

546
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,160
of them. Let's pull that up. Do you remember what

547
00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:00,839
it was titled? It does look pretty interesting? It was

548
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,079
who are the other girls on it?

549
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 4: When Stefani.

550
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: What Aguilera? She?

551
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,679
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Christina Aguilero is one.

552
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: So basically, is this hurt? This is what twenty years apart? Yeah,

553
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:32,159
that's crazy, I know. So people are the conspiracy goobers

554
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:37,239
are like, it's clones. They're like Gucci Mane, they got clone.

555
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 4: Well, some of them are so drastic, like Donna Tella Versace.

556
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:48,119
That was really drastic. Christine.

557
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,639
Speaker 1: What didn't that turn into a goblin? What do you mean?

558
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 4: Well, but then they made her look like regular again.

559
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,559
Speaker 1: Oh, I see you're saying.

560
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, who was one of the other ones, Christina Aguilera?

561
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:08,519
Speaker 1: Uh no, there was another one. You said it was

562
00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:11,559
a Katy Perry. No, it wasn't Katy Perry. Julie Roberts, No,

563
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,119
you were the one telling me about.

564
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 4: It exactly who I'll say more.

565
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: You can't remember anyway, some of these celebrity women are

566
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,039
not aging somehow, And is it they were saying that

567
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:31,559
about Skater He was a skater boy. And by the way,

568
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,039
the conspiracy theory is not true about her. She wasn't replaced.

569
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:46,599
That's really dumb. So this is her. Now, where's a

570
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:54,239
good picture. What do you think?

571
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,199
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

572
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 4: She looks good.

573
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: There we go.

574
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

575
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: Anyway, maybe they're vampires that they're not aging because they're

576
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,679
vampires exactly.

577
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 4: Lucian is one of the vampires.

578
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:19,559
Speaker 5: I mean.

579
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 4: The characters in Underworld.

580
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: Well, this one is interesting because it deals with it's

581
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,320
a cover for the idea of the illuminate confirm but

582
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:36,599
they're experimenting with uh genetics and DNA through blood and

583
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,440
we have the moonchild imagery from Crowley. This one is

584
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:42,079
actually like straight up Crowley stuff. I feel like you're

585
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:46,199
not reading my notes. Maybe you can't read. Oh, I'm like, no,

586
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,079
wonder you're skipping all the juicy DEDs.

587
00:36:48,159 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 4: Dude.

588
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lucian, which is who that's the Barbosa or not Barbosa?

589
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,559
What's his name?

590
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 8: Mm hmm.

591
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 1: The the actor, the famous British actor that plays not

592
00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:09,760
Barbosa but Davy Jones. Bill NYI is the main guy

593
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:15,639
in this, right right him? Yes, okay, And this is

594
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:19,800
all about bloodlines. And so it's about bloodlines because all

595
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,239
of this vampire crap is like an allegory for the

596
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:30,559
elite and bloodline families exactly. Well, that word will ding

597
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:32,679
the stupid thing, so I'm trying to avoid that word.

598
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,559
So being bitten is like an initiation in this you

599
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:41,360
actually go through an initiatory process. There's a question of

600
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,880
genetic hybrids, vampire and lichens mixed together, cross breeding. This

601
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,079
is all just about genetic bloodlines of the elite being crossbred.

602
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,960
So the analogy is that the use of the vampire

603
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:57,719
is the same as being initiated into or being brought

604
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,559
into the power elite, the elite of those who who

605
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:07,039
I can't read my notes, I can live.

606
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 4: Forever because he sleeps for a long periods of time.

607
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 10: Yeah.

608
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,679
Speaker 1: Well, he's kind of like a like he's like a

609
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:21,119
David Rockefeller's like a Lord Ralph Chold. I can't tell

610
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,639
what I have important notes, I promise you, but I

611
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:30,039
can't read them. Selene. That's the KP. Becastell character, right, Yeah,

612
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,480
And that's actually the name of a moon goddess, right,

613
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:35,880
so that her title is moon goddess. And you'll notice

614
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,440
in the opening sequence, right, it's like it's her with

615
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:41,679
the moon, or at least on the cover of the poster.

616
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,159
So she's like a moon child type of thing. Right,

617
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:48,840
that's a Crowllian thing from his novel Moonchild. That's giving

618
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,760
birth to like is it, but babies are giving birth

619
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,320
to like Sucuba, like through a succubas type of situation

620
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:56,719
where you have.

621
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 4: A moonchild will just be one that was conceived during a.

622
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: They'reing a ritual, but they're dedicated to the deity, right, Yeah,

623
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,519
So she hooks up with the ancient occult history tones,

624
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,880
she learns all the background and instead of a vampire,

625
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,719
it's a grand pyre. Right. So that's the build Night character.

626
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,679
He's like the head of the vampire Illuminati, and the

627
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,800
Awakening ritual is what this is all about, which is

628
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,440
a resurrection that brings him back. It's a blood right

629
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,079
and there's also genetic memories that are stored in blood,

630
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:27,679
which is pretty fascinating. It looks like one of the

631
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,559
scenes is I don't know if this is true, but

632
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:31,960
it looks like it's filmed at a Ralph Child estate.

633
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:40,400
This isn't surprising though many films like Batman Returns I

634
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:44,159
want to say Ninth Gate maybe even used a famous

635
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:49,079
Ralph Child mansion. The bad guys end up hold up

636
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:53,400
in a giant corporation called Zio Decks, which is interesting

637
00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:59,360
because I mean, is that suggesting something Zio related? And

638
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:05,880
it's about ultimately cloning and getting the blood to essentially

639
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,519
create immortality. So the bad guy wants immortality, and we'll

640
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:11,039
find the same thing in Blade Rather that's ultimately about

641
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:19,320
immortality as well, right, because vampires live longer, but they

642
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,440
want to be immune to ever dying, and so that's

643
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,599
why they're trying to cross.

644
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 4: Breed, and don't they want the wolf DNA.

645
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,519
Speaker 1: That's why I just said. They're trying to cross breed

646
00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:33,719
because of the weakness of the vampire, and so they

647
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,039
want to use the strength of the lichen to fix

648
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:40,360
the weakness of the vampire. So yeah, ultimately this is

649
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,239
like an allegory for what you read about in say

650
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,039
Charles Galton Darwin's book where he talks about elite bloodlines

651
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:53,679
and how important it is the three celled platelets of blood,

652
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,440
and it's actually in a little triad, which is pretty wild.

653
00:40:58,199 --> 00:41:02,400
Immortality is hidden away in Michael's genetic code. He's the

654
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:07,280
liking guy, that's right. And so the vampires understand that

655
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,920
they're cursed, but they want to lift the curse of

656
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:15,679
mortality to become immortal because they can still die, but

657
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,480
if they can lift the curse, then they cannot die

658
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:21,960
in any way. And so this ends up being a

659
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:25,840
combination or reconciliation of opposites. So there's this alchemical idea

660
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,679
where the lichens and the vampires have to cross breed.

661
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:37,440
The synthesis is supposed to produce the alchemical reconciliation of

662
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,679
the opposites to create aware pire or a vamp wolf. Right, Yeah,

663
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,599
are aware vamp aware pire or a vamp wolf like?

664
00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:51,280
And uh so it is an alchemical process and that's

665
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,239
actually what the film is about. It's pretty crazy that

666
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:58,079
something so kind of goofy uh and you know, I

667
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:01,440
mean it's not like a Actually it's not surprising because

668
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:04,840
we've seen that on this channel. You know, even some

669
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,679
of the most innocuous seeming comedies or kind of comic

670
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,519
book movies are actually packed with a lot of deep

671
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:19,159
esoteric union, Chrollian, alchemical, cabalistic imagery.

672
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 4: What do you think is the first archetype for a vampire?

673
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad you asked that, because that reminds

674
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:29,199
me that David Patrick Carey did a really good talk

675
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,840
a couple of years ago on vampires and their history

676
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,679
and their symbology, and he talked about them as essentially

677
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:41,199
a symbol for the devil, for the demonic, for anything evil,

678
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,440
because it's parasitic, it feeds on life, it feeds on blood.

679
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:48,679
Leviticus says, of course, the life is in the blood,

680
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,840
and that's why in Christianity we feed on the deified

681
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,760
flesh of Christ in the Eucharist. Right, So, vampire movies,

682
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,840
I think hint at fundamental religious truths that, even though

683
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,239
they're evil creatures, in the films, there's some notion that

684
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:10,039
there's a need for sacrifice, and there's a need for

685
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,920
partaking of and consuming the sacrifice, the blood, et cetera.

686
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,079
That's what the Eucharist is. But of course vampires are cursed,

687
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:20,119
and so they don't have the Eucharist. They have to

688
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,440
feed on the next best thing, which is living people.

689
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:26,800
And that's the blood of human beings, or that demons

690
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,039
feed upon us in our life force.

691
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 4: What about Lilith and that story of being the first

692
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:35,639
that's a kind of a vampire.

693
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely good. Good analogy there. And now if you

694
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,519
didn't watch it, go sure, be sure and go watch

695
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:46,360
David Patrick Harrey's Vampire Talk. Maybe i'll link that later.

696
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,000
There's a super chet.

697
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 4: Ww Curious. What kind of music do you enjoy?

698
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,039
Speaker 1: J I listened to a lot of different things. I

699
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,880
like a lot of electronica, a lot of trance, a

700
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,840
lot of techno, a lot of house music. But I

701
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,480
also listened to everything from reggae, Peter Tosh, Bob Marley

702
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:14,679
to Oasis, Depeche Mode. I like a lot of Uh.

703
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:20,599
I like York, I like I'm just looking at my

704
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,320
playlist right now. I mean, I think you get the idea.

705
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,679
I'm not going to sit here and just read all

706
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:25,880
these out all day long.

707
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: But he likes Florence the Machine.

708
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: I like Florence in the Machine. Are I don't listen

709
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,800
to any as much as I used to, but I

710
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:33,679
like I like Kenya.

711
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 4: He likes soundtracks, uh.

712
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:49,599
Speaker 1: Some I like back a lot, Chemical Brothers, Massive Attack,

713
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:56,079
a lot of nineties stuff. I like Chris Isaac. Yeah,

714
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:56,719
there you go.

715
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 4: Oh we just went to Alan Howard the concert at

716
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:02,360
the Film Festival.

717
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 8: Yeah.

718
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,119
Speaker 1: I mean that's synthesizer music. So that's classic John Carpenter music.

719
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,960
And I don't really like to sit around listening to that.

720
00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:15,199
I just like the vibe of it, because you know,

721
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,000
eighties movies not a listen I don't listen to any

722
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:21,719
eighties hair metal. I'm not a bon Jovie kind of dude. So,

723
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,800
and I'm not dissing you if you are, I don't

724
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,280
know if people are dissing in you. And it is

725
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,599
actually really awesome. She's actually a classical composer. She's not

726
00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:33,480
a new age. But what else is? Let me see

727
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:41,960
what's in my playlist The Cure, Cypress, Hill t, Daft Punk, London, Grammar,

728
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:51,880
London Grammar, Depeche Mode, Dirty Vegas, Dip Low, Debbie Brothers, Duran,

729
00:45:51,960 --> 00:46:00,199
Durant Ivor, Ellie Golding, Elvis Enigma.

730
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

731
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 6: Uh.

732
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: I got a lot of singles, but they're not I like,

733
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,280
actually like a lot of ninety stuff. I like garbage

734
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,679
now and I used to like garbage in the nineties.

735
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:20,119
I like them now. Yeah, so oh goldfrap rhymes.

736
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: I know who you were thinking of? What Lindsay Lohan?

737
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: Yes, somebody found vampire. Lindsay Lohan is looking like she

738
00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:32,840
because there was a picture of her like ten years

739
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:38,400
ago looking rough, right, and then something happened and she's

740
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:45,039
like restored to uh clone beauty or something like. She's like, yeah,

741
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,400
she got fixed somehow. How are they doing it? What

742
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,199
is the secret of the celebrities and their beauty techniques?

743
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,280
Remember that picture when she was looking really rough?

744
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, mel Gibson's task force is going to.

745
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: Go in and maybe mel Gibson's task Force has already

746
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,360
fixed Lindsay and the and the select.

747
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 4: We thought, then.

748
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:21,559
Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan's face has the internet obsessed obsessed? You thought,

749
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:22,320
what what are you saying?

750
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 4: You thought the task force was going to cut the

751
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:25,519
crime out?

752
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,639
Speaker 1: No, they're just there to beautify it. They're they're doing

753
00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:32,719
glow ups right, Yes, JV three two dollars.

754
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 4: Hey, Jamie, did you get you a double espresso? Yeah,

755
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:39,559
he's got one.

756
00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:41,639
Speaker 1: I got one on my own. No, she didn't get

757
00:47:41,679 --> 00:47:45,679
it any more in that all right, Thank you guys.

758
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,559
If you want to support, you can always send us

759
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:50,400
super chat. Thank you, guys for we got more to

760
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,519
do here. Thank you for the generosity so far already.

761
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:57,599
Thank you for the memberships that have been handed out.

762
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,679
I'm already over two hundred plus members. We're on like

763
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,719
two hundred and twenty almost over here on YouTube, so

764
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,800
appreciate that. Let's see what's the next one? Van helsing

765
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:11,239
hand Belsen.

766
00:48:12,199 --> 00:48:13,159
Speaker 4: That was goofiest.

767
00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: It is the goodiest, but people didn't realize that there's

768
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,480
actually weird Kabbalistic stuff at the end of this. I

769
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:20,760
noticed it this time through I never noticed it before.

770
00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 4: Quasi modo.

771
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: And this also has Kate in it, but it is

772
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,800
not related to the Underworld world, which when we were

773
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,199
watching this, I was like, is this related to Underworld?

774
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:39,000
I don't, I don't understand, but it's not go ahead

775
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:42,719
quasi mood. Oh you can't read this? No, Well, Quasimoto

776
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,360
makes an appearance in this, doesn't he Frankenstein and igor

777
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,239
Igor is like Quasi Moto pretty much right, except it's

778
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:53,960
Phara mirror from Lord of the Rings plan.

779
00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:55,199
Speaker 4: Oh.

780
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: Remember the Vatican has a like a giant underground intelligence

781
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:04,559
network and they're doing He's like q from Bond.

782
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 7: Oh.

783
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there it's really dumb, Like the Vatican knows

784
00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:14,159
that they have to use all the means at their disposal,

785
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,119
such as Van Helsing the assassin to go and kill

786
00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:23,519
the vampires, and that's Hugh Jackman. And the Vatican secretly

787
00:49:23,639 --> 00:49:26,400
runs and works with all the good religions. So ironically,

788
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,159
Van Helsing was actually telling us the truth about Vatican

789
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,719
too a long time ago. You know what I'm talking about,

790
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,960
because there's like Buddhists down there and underneath the Vatican.

791
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:43,039
You don't remember this. When Van Helsing goes and meets

792
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:47,320
with Faramir who's playing Igor, the Quasimoto Monk, he's like

793
00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:49,760
Q from James Bond. Yeah, and he's got all this

794
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,239
alchemist crap underneath the Vatican. Yeah, and they've got like

795
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,800
darts for dark guns for vampires. It's really stupid. And uh,

796
00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:09,719
he's equipping Hugh Jackman to go kill Dracula. Yes, and

797
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,480
the cardinals commission it because he's part of a secret

798
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:13,719
society that the Vatican runs.

799
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 4: It's the Italian Ministry of Spooky Things.

800
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:21,119
Speaker 1: The Vatican Ministry is spooky things. Yeah, yeah, super jet

801
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:26,079
right here.

802
00:50:26,519 --> 00:50:27,599
Speaker 4: I don't count.

803
00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: Oppositeur. It's conjunction of opposites. He's talking about alchemy, storm the.

804
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,599
Speaker 4: Cat three dollars. My favorite horror movie is The Grudge.

805
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,199
Speaker 1: WHOA, Now that's a rare one. I actually just watched

806
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,679
this the other night because we were doing a Sarah

807
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,880
Michelle Geller Buffy thing and I was like, I forgot

808
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,119
this Buffy horror movie. I assume you mean maybe the

809
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:56,880
Japanese one. I don't, but the Buffy one was pretty

810
00:50:57,079 --> 00:51:02,199
goofy with that little make up, dirty face. Japanese boy,

811
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:08,440
that's not scary at all. What have you seen it?

812
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:13,599
Speaker 4: Most ghosts are little children that died like a untimely death.

813
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a huge flop to I think the

814
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:17,280
garage was.

815
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 4: But we just made a master list of horror movies.

816
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: Well I did it from We did it from my lecture. Yeah,

817
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,400
so let's get back to this. You can't read it.

818
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,440
Dracula got him some uh some, he got him a

819
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,400
little a little hoe nest over here in Romania. Right,

820
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,360
he got him some three oh fours stashed in Romania.

821
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:43,519
Speaker 4: What I don't like those?

822
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: He's like a tait. He's got three oh four is

823
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,719
stashed in Romania? Right?

824
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 4: Yes, he got do you got three?

825
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:59,519
Speaker 1: He's got a fifteen hundreds there. Yeah, he's part of

826
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:01,559
the Knights of the Holy Order of something I forgot.

827
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:03,639
It was really stupid, But it's a secret society in

828
00:52:03,679 --> 00:52:06,960
the Vatican that commissions them to go kill there's nine

829
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:11,519
generations of bloodlines. Again, it's all really stupid. The only

830
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:14,960
thing that's worth mentioning, I think is that when you

831
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:23,920
eventually get to the showdown between Hugh Jackman and Dracula,

832
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,559
there's this discussion in front of a giant window, and

833
00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:34,119
the window pane window panes are actually structured like the

834
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,119
Sepharat of the Kabbala, right of the of the Tree

835
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:40,719
of Life and the Kabala, and we I know that

836
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,280
because that that that's accurate, because when they have this

837
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,480
conversation in front of that window. I don't see it

838
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:50,079
in the trailer here, but he says, uh. Dracula says,

839
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,480
I am the left the left hand of God, and

840
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:55,639
you are the right hand of God, which is a

841
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,679
cabalistic idea that God uses as good and evil as

842
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,800
his left and right hands right like Yakin and Boaz

843
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,719
good and evil or flip sides of the same coin.

844
00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:08,400
So the whole film is like just that God uses

845
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,719
good and evil. He says, I'm the left hand of God.

846
00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:16,559
What do you think of that? And then at the

847
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:23,519
end he gets they cremate Kate beckhamsale and he like

848
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,920
rides off. It's really stupid. He looks up into the sky.

849
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:30,719
This is the dumbest ending of any movie.

850
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 11: It was.

851
00:53:31,519 --> 00:53:33,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's in the clouds.

852
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: She's and she looks down him in the clouds. This

853
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,440
is over here. This is so stupid. It's probably one

854
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,000
of the dumbest movie endings ever. And this movie was

855
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:44,159
was really stupid. But it does have that odd cobaalistic

856
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,960
line in it. But so here is at the very end,

857
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,639
and they've cremated her body. They've torched it, ben Helsing

858
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,320
and Ferimir up here on the on the hill right,

859
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,760
and then he looks up in the sky and then

860
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,480
her stupid face shines down upon him in the clouds.

861
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:07,519
Where was it up here?

862
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 6: It is.

863
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 5: There?

864
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:16,519
Speaker 1: You can barely see her there she is, I see, yeah, yep,

865
00:54:18,519 --> 00:54:22,360
Kate Beckhen frail right, she's up there, barely can see her.

866
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 4: You want to read this, okay, Nephelin desk squad. Have

867
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:30,360
you ever seen the Believers with Martin Sheen? Of course,

868
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:32,679
in the opening credits to the Ninth Gate looks like

869
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:33,840
the Vatican walls and.

870
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,639
Speaker 1: Doors opening, Absolutely, dude. In fact, one of the first

871
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:43,840
podcasts that Jamie and I did was Believers and Voodoo stuff.

872
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,719
So we're going to get to know Sparratu in a minute.

873
00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:53,840
But because Robert Eggers did The Witch and he also

874
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,159
did know Su. But the reason I brought it up

875
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,960
is that it's one of the first things that Jamie

876
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:05,199
and I did. He also did a voodoo podcast and

877
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:10,599
it has the believers on Thereasi modo here it is.

878
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I remember that.

879
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: This is old school eight years ago. Look at that.

880
00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:23,159
So in this podcast we covered Believers serving the Rainbow, Angel, Heart,

881
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:29,000
Skeleton Key, and Living lad Die. So this ten year

882
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,679
almost ten years of Dan Jamie movie podcast. Look at that.

883
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,480
So go check that out, dog. But thank you Nefflin

884
00:55:36,519 --> 00:55:37,719
Deth Squad. Bobby.

885
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 4: See, I'm pretty sure Dracula called Van Helsing the left

886
00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:46,840
hand of God. He never called him included himself as

887
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:47,800
one of the hands.

888
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,199
Speaker 1: Okay, The point still stands that phraseology of left hand

889
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,119
of God is kabalistic phraseology. So whether he said it

890
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,599
or was talking about Van Helsing is whatever. Okay, it's

891
00:56:00,159 --> 00:56:02,119
he says that when there's like the symbol of the

892
00:56:02,159 --> 00:56:07,880
sufferra behind Hugh Jackman on in the mirror in the window,

893
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,920
it's the window frame or structured like a sufferron.

894
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 4: I just can't stop thinking about that stupid face in

895
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:17,840
the clouds.

896
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: Well, I mean happy ending, I guess even though she

897
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,159
got burned up, I mean they cremate her. So that's

898
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,880
just really terrible. Now do you want to do? Uh?

899
00:56:33,199 --> 00:56:37,039
This is the best of the vampire movies by far.

900
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 4: I think Dracula nineteen ninety two with Keanu Yeah.

901
00:56:41,039 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: And there's actually an esoteric thing going on in this,

902
00:56:43,079 --> 00:56:44,679
believe or not. I did not expect her to be

903
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,639
anything esoteric in this movie. I've seen this movie many

904
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,519
times over the years, but Jamie and I watched it

905
00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:54,360
recently and I put on my esoteric thinking glasses for

906
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,360
this one, and there actually was some stuff that I

907
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:02,880
wasn't I'd never before. So let's get into the esoteric

908
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,159
elements of the actually good vampire movie, the best one

909
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:06,960
that I'm aware of.

910
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 4: Well, did you remember that it started fourteen sixty two

911
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,119
Constantinople Fall of Yes.

912
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: Because there's actually you can take the Dracula pill if

913
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,480
you haven't, by the way, because people think of Dracula

914
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,000
as as like super villain, but actually Dracula was fighting

915
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:29,159
the Muslims and I was deep hilled a long time ago,

916
00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:31,800
not in a gay way, in a Dracula way.

917
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 4: Somebody sent us a big, long super chat about Dracula,

918
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:36,000
like a.

919
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: Couple of years ago, probably, But also if you look

920
00:57:39,079 --> 00:57:43,800
up his even like his Wikipedia, he was in this

921
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,559
odd kind of middle ground to where it's not really

922
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:51,079
clear whether he was Orthodox or Uni eight. Maybe he

923
00:57:51,239 --> 00:57:53,119
was Orthodox and maybe he was Uniate, or maybe he

924
00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:55,679
flip flopped between or wasn't sure, so it's kind of

925
00:57:55,719 --> 00:58:00,679
a weird in between scenario. But he's like fending off,

926
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,480
you know, these Muslim hordes. So I don't actually think

927
00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:07,119
he's a bad guy. If you look into the history

928
00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:13,079
of Vladdim Paler. Now the movie is weird because it's

929
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,079
it's not a Christian film, but it has all this

930
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:20,960
Christian imagery that ends up being this kind of gnostic allegory.

931
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,400
I mean, I know that's a shocker, Like what movie

932
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,320
isn't anstic thing in Hollywood? But it's not. It's not

933
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,079
exactly clear whether he was Ortho or Unia, but he

934
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:35,440
could have could have been anyway. So here we got

935
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,000
Kinko Reeves is playing what's the guy's name, I forget

936
00:58:40,039 --> 00:58:44,360
his name, the lawyer who's sent to, you know, help

937
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,079
Dracula get to England, right.

938
00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, what's his name.

939
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: Dracula. No, we're not a writer, Gary.

940
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 4: Yes, he his wife killed herself and so he's.

941
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,519
Speaker 1: Like, oh yeah, in the past, that's.

942
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 4: Right, going through time yearning for it.

943
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,079
Speaker 1: So it's quasi orthodox, yeah, because Byzantium falls to the

944
00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:20,679
Turks and win on a rider is his girlfriend in

945
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:25,159
the fourteen hundreds, and she dies, and so he makes

946
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,400
a deal with the devil. He says, I'll never serve

947
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:34,320
God because you know, I lost, won the war whatever.

948
00:59:34,159 --> 00:59:37,079
Speaker 4: And he lost his bride. He's pissed at God and

949
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:37,679
he was.

950
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:40,719
Speaker 1: Part of the Order of the Dragon. Jamie wrote down,

951
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:45,679
people need to be Dracula pilled. She no way, she

952
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,960
unlived herself. Yeah, okay, that's right. And so then he

953
00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:53,519
made a deal with the devil because she's damned now, right,

954
00:59:53,639 --> 00:59:56,119
So now he doesn't know what to do exactly, So

955
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:01,079
he's cursed. Bobby's he says, or five dollars the best

956
01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:03,719
Raculum movie is the one with Leslie Nielsen. Well, you

957
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,599
decided yourself as either gen X or Boomer, because nobody,

958
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,039
nobody under gen X or Boomer knows who Leslie Nielsen is.

959
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:14,519
But I've never really thought Leslie Nielsen stuff was funny.

960
01:00:14,519 --> 01:00:16,639
I liked it when I was a kid. But you

961
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,800
may have your Leslie Nilsen appreciation since you're paying money

962
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,440
as a pay piggy, so shout out to you.

963
01:00:23,559 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 4: No'll there's an inverted cross on his floor.

964
01:00:29,039 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: Like yeah, well he gets inverted when he's when it's

965
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,880
everything's inverted because of his packed for the devil. And

966
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:38,559
this is actually shot really well because they shoot things

967
01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:41,960
upside down. A lot of scenes show him crawling upside

968
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,440
down on the on the ceiling and that's all, you know.

969
01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:47,159
I think really well done. I mean, this is the

970
01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:49,719
best Fanpire movie by far. I don't think there's nothing

971
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,280
superior to this. Francis Orcoppola is kind of a weirdo.

972
01:00:54,239 --> 01:00:56,440
I'm not defending him as a person or anything. I

973
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,079
don't know him or obviously Nick Cage or anything, but

974
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,800
we love Nick Age and uh Franz Forcoo has made

975
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,000
several good movies and this is the best fan part

976
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:08,119
of me in my opinion.

977
01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:12,679
Speaker 4: Well, this is roughly the same plot as Nosferatu that

978
01:01:12,719 --> 01:01:13,519
we're gonna talk about.

979
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: Well, these are based on the book. The book.

980
01:01:16,239 --> 01:01:18,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, loosely. R.

981
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: Kaziani sends one dollar. Thank you so much.

982
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,599
Speaker 4: Here's a Lula that Alula j and Jamie streams might

983
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,559
just be my favorite thing on the internet. Don't forget

984
01:01:28,639 --> 01:01:31,519
to try and make time for Lord of the ringstream No, Rush,

985
01:01:31,719 --> 01:01:33,840
just want you to remind you. I know you're both busy.

986
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: We have been talking about that for a long time.

987
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:37,719
You're right, and we got a bunch of notes. We

988
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,000
just haven't got to it yet. Yeah, all right, So

989
01:01:40,119 --> 01:01:44,760
back to the esoteric elements in this the there's the

990
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,880
human sacrifice element. I mean, this is he's basically like

991
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,239
who's the Old Testament King? He's like my Nasa basically,

992
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,320
I mean, Dracula is at the point of like, you know,

993
01:01:58,119 --> 01:02:02,719
feeding youths to his Romanian three oh fours.

994
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:10,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the vampires are also a metaphor for sex

995
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:17,320
because she's reading Arabian nights and yeah. And then in

996
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,320
Noasaratu she summons him because she's so lonely and they

997
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,559
make a s X pact.

998
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: Yes, I forgot to mention that more one of the

999
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:34,559
more obvious imagery things going on with vampires's sex. So absolutely.

1000
01:02:35,639 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

1001
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,159
Speaker 1: Now, Gary Oldman plays this really well. I think this

1002
01:02:39,239 --> 01:02:41,159
is probably one of his He's probably most known for

1003
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,280
this role. This is probably his most famous role. He's

1004
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,920
a very good Dracula, like.

1005
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 4: His costumes in this, and I like when he turned

1006
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:48,920
into rats.

1007
01:02:49,239 --> 01:02:53,119
Speaker 1: Yes, and even when Ona Ryder does well in this.

1008
01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:56,840
And she's an interesting person because if you don't know,

1009
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,360
her godfather is Timothy Leary, which I've always thought is

1010
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,960
really weird. And so she was like hanging out from

1011
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,920
the earliest days with like high level CI L s

1012
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:09,440
D people.

1013
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:16,239
Speaker 4: So it's interesting the understanding they're having of the sex

1014
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,519
appeal of a young maiden in those days and that

1015
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:29,400
the marriage keeps it keeps her safe from attacks from

1016
01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:30,840
the other side.

1017
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in the new one or in.

1018
01:03:34,199 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 4: General, well in both and in general, like even Bromstoker

1019
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:42,079
was kind of putting this together like it's.

1020
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,559
Speaker 1: Like a spiritual contract that cubas.

1021
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,159
Speaker 4: Can't get to her or the incubists can't get to her.

1022
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:51,480
She's in her marriage and being satisfied because whenever he

1023
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:55,599
goes away is whenever the troubles all the.

1024
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: Rich the rich man, he holimony. He don't want to

1025
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:06,159
pay alimony. Yeah, even though he is is he rich,

1026
01:04:06,239 --> 01:04:08,880
it's not exactly clear if he's rich. Sort of.

1027
01:04:09,079 --> 01:04:13,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got dusty bags of coins, so maybe yeah,

1028
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:15,239
he's got like I.

1029
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: Guess he's got old objects that could be well, yeah,

1030
01:04:18,039 --> 01:04:22,000
it could be it could be well something worth something. Okay,

1031
01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:29,519
So this one is weird because they bring in this

1032
01:04:29,719 --> 01:04:36,159
weird uh other girl who's sort of the sex pot.

1033
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,880
I don't know how you're supposed to. Yeah, she's like, yeah,

1034
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:44,239
she's a bad influence friend. And then she also lures

1035
01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:49,159
Dracula in and Dracula possesses her. She gets demonically possessed,

1036
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,800
and she dresses like the scarlet woman. She's like the

1037
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,679
scarlet woman who joins with the beast. This is very

1038
01:04:54,719 --> 01:04:58,039
crowley and stuff. I would not be surprised if Coppola

1039
01:04:58,119 --> 01:05:01,119
wasn't into too crowley. I love the way they shot

1040
01:05:01,159 --> 01:05:04,280
this with the green mist. I thought that was excellent.

1041
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,960
Like the cinematography in this one is phenomenal. I mean

1042
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,320
we went back and watched this and I was just

1043
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:10,559
like this is just like the.

1044
01:05:10,639 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 4: Best dude you said drag Kumla.

1045
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: Yes, Dragon is basically just trying to get late, dude

1046
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,639
and knows Farato. It's like Sarmon trying to get late.

1047
01:05:18,719 --> 01:05:20,719
That's all it is. Just Sarmon gets late. That's it.

1048
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,599
That's the whole movie. But I mean, look at the scene.

1049
01:05:23,639 --> 01:05:24,400
That's just awesome.

1050
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the peacocks are.

1051
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: Cool and then yes, excellent makeup set design. And you

1052
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,880
can tell in the new one they were giving a

1053
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,920
lot of homage to the Coppola one, But I mean

1054
01:05:38,159 --> 01:05:40,039
it's just not anywhere near as good.

1055
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:46,639
Speaker 4: Um. Yeah, he's an incubus and she's tripping on her

1056
01:05:46,719 --> 01:05:47,920
past life on absent.

1057
01:05:49,719 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so basically we get this reincarnation motif where she

1058
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,840
figures out, oh, actually I was you know, his uh

1059
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,480
chick five hundred years ago, one hundred years ago, and

1060
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:03,440
so maybe I'm actually supposed to be with him, and

1061
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,039
she starts to fall under his thrall. He got that

1062
01:06:06,199 --> 01:06:13,840
thrall aka mojo, he got raa drag krilla, yes, Dracula

1063
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,239
drag rizla.

1064
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:20,119
Speaker 4: Drags yes, okay, and they have an orthodox wedding.

1065
01:06:21,079 --> 01:06:24,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. This is what Yeah, when when we

1066
01:06:24,199 --> 01:06:26,760
got married, we did this, We did his dance around.

1067
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,320
It's called the thousand candle dance. I'm just kidding. But

1068
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,639
she's all dressed up again like the scarlet woman now

1069
01:06:34,639 --> 01:06:35,639
and she has to marry the.

1070
01:06:35,679 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 4: Beasts, right yeah, Oh, and she has to drink from

1071
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:41,159
his side like a bad Eucharist or something.

1072
01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: Yes. Keano has been holed up in the layer and

1073
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,639
he's been fed upon by Dracula's hose, right his three

1074
01:06:50,719 --> 01:06:55,199
or fours and uh, he ends up eventually get turned.

1075
01:06:55,239 --> 01:06:57,599
His hair turns white, which is weird because that's like

1076
01:06:57,679 --> 01:06:59,440
when Moses goes up on the mountain. Then he comes

1077
01:06:59,519 --> 01:07:01,920
down and he seeing God. Well, in this situation, it's

1078
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,639
as if he's actually seen the devil. So it's like

1079
01:07:04,679 --> 01:07:11,079
an inverse version of Moses. There's probably color magic going on,

1080
01:07:11,239 --> 01:07:14,199
because there's specific uses of different colors. Red and green

1081
01:07:14,239 --> 01:07:15,719
are used consistently throughout the film.

1082
01:07:16,119 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 4: Well, she's always wearing green, and I wonder.

1083
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,519
Speaker 1: If that's the Well, she's innocent and green and then

1084
01:07:22,599 --> 01:07:23,280
she turns red.

1085
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 4: Right, But there used to be this color in the

1086
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,760
Victorian era that killed everybody. That dye was toxic and

1087
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,880
they would make like dresses and wallpaper and curtains out

1088
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,199
of this green dye. But it turned out to be

1089
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,400
like deadly interesting.

1090
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:47,079
Speaker 1: Now, as the film comes to a climax, she takes

1091
01:07:47,159 --> 01:07:51,679
on his powers, right, she does spells, she becomes a sorceress,

1092
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,800
and then eventually he says it is finished when he dies.

1093
01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:01,440
And so there's like this crystallogical symbology and imagery towards

1094
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:08,000
the end, right, and you see this they the cameras

1095
01:08:08,119 --> 01:08:11,559
shows the dome of the sort of Orthodox cathedral that

1096
01:08:11,559 --> 01:08:15,480
they're in, and they've been deified, and it's them too

1097
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:20,239
in the heavens, as if they've sort of transcended, and

1098
01:08:23,159 --> 01:08:25,760
he takes the eucharus and burns her on the forehead.

1099
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,880
It's really weird, but I think it's supposed to signify

1100
01:08:29,079 --> 01:08:32,600
that they've exited the wheel of time and reincarnation. And

1101
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,199
it was the alchemical love that brought them together and

1102
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:40,199
freed them from the curse that Dracula was under. So

1103
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:44,800
he actually had to return to the good side and

1104
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:50,439
rescue his woman before he could live have the curse

1105
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,439
of Satan and the pact with the devil lift.

1106
01:08:53,239 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 10: What do you think?

1107
01:08:55,159 --> 01:08:58,279
Speaker 4: This was probably the most well made of all the

1108
01:08:58,359 --> 01:08:59,640
Draculas I forgot.

1109
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,359
Speaker 1: Anthony Hopkins is like the Van Helsing type character, but

1110
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,720
he's kind of a goofball do so through his stream

1111
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:16,359
labs or through YouTube memberships. And what's next, Yeah, you

1112
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:17,319
don't want to talk about.

1113
01:09:17,119 --> 01:09:21,279
Speaker 4: Blade, Well we can do that one end, Griz Christopherson.

1114
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: We should end with Blade, not with it. I mean,

1115
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:29,079
there's not a whole lot to say, just Blade is

1116
01:09:29,159 --> 01:09:35,000
my favorite, like not serious movie. Blade is also kind

1117
01:09:35,079 --> 01:09:39,720
of like Underworld in that it has this motif of

1118
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:47,720
the Illuminate Confirm essentially are seeking to obtain the secrets

1119
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,840
of bloodlines, genetics and immortality.

1120
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 4: Yes, and Blade is a genetic anomal operation.

1121
01:10:00,039 --> 01:10:03,279
Speaker 1: And who's the one? He's like the secret to the

1122
01:10:03,319 --> 01:10:03,720
whole thing.

1123
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 6: He is.

1124
01:10:06,039 --> 01:10:07,039
Speaker 4: In between worlds.

1125
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: Chris Chrisofferson is just grizzled, and you know, playing he's

1126
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,840
always like a grizzled character, like Nulty or something.

1127
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 4: He's the most grizzled actor.

1128
01:10:19,239 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: There are some interesting tie ins though, with the Triads

1129
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,840
and the Yakuza and what the film. The way it

1130
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,159
presents the Illuminate Confirm is that they essentially run the

1131
01:10:31,239 --> 01:10:35,399
criminal gangs. So the vampires aka the Illuminate confirm. They

1132
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,800
run the organized crime gangs and their quest though, is

1133
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,239
for immortality. They don't really care about petty crime, but

1134
01:10:42,319 --> 01:10:44,000
they run the crime gangs and they run all this

1135
01:10:44,039 --> 01:10:49,800
stuff in order to obtain uh, the obtainum to obtain immortality.

1136
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,479
So once again, it's an allegory for the real power

1137
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:54,119
lead the.

1138
01:10:54,199 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 4: Human tr aff element too in the Eastern European. Isn't

1139
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:00,880
that what Blade is about?

1140
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:03,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen it as many times.

1141
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 4: I have a franchise. They're like tracking down criminals who

1142
01:11:08,159 --> 01:11:12,000
t R a F F people Blade or the bad

1143
01:11:12,039 --> 01:11:13,279
guys who bad guys?

1144
01:11:14,399 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: Why would they be chasing down people that do that.

1145
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,239
Speaker 4: No, they chase down the vampires who run the gangs

1146
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,319
who do the organized crime.

1147
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,279
Speaker 1: Does it specifically reference t R A F F I

1148
01:11:26,399 --> 01:11:27,920
C K I G. I can't remember.

1149
01:11:28,279 --> 01:11:33,560
Speaker 4: I think so because all of their underground clubs and

1150
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:35,319
they're like meatpacking.

1151
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:41,319
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yes, so they're trafficking in people. They mentioned

1152
01:11:41,399 --> 01:11:45,760
that they have offshore accounts. They're like super rich. They

1153
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:50,399
have all these you know, corporations and castles. So yeah,

1154
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,079
this is like illuminate confirm.

1155
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 4: They even have a vampire Bible.

1156
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:57,279
Speaker 1: Yes, good point.

1157
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:05,279
Speaker 4: We're like the Codex I guess destroyed and Stephen Dwarf

1158
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,960
is trying to decode the Bible code the vampire Bible

1159
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,680
coat vaguely.

1160
01:12:13,199 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 1: The next one, they put up parasite. It's like there's

1161
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:22,359
a parasite, remember in the second one, Yeah, a vampire parasite. Anyway,

1162
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,960
we're gonna skip that. We'll move on to the climax,

1163
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which was I didn't care for this movie. I thought

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it was not very good. And it's pretty obvious why

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it wasn't that good, and that's because, well, we'll get

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to it, but it's not Christian anymore. That that was

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the weird part. Somebody said on an audio show I

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was on. They were like, well that when he you know,

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when he leaves he uh Kendel Reason ends up leaving

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the castle in an Orthodox monastery. Yeah, but so what

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I mean, the whole point is that she has to

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unite with the beast. They call him the beast, so

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it's like the woman marries the beast, like out of

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the Apocalypse. They have all this apocalyptic terminology in the film,

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and Willem Dafoe never references Christ or Christianity. He's always

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referencing demonic solemnonic incantations.

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Speaker 4: Well, and then he calls her a price of isis?

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I know that's fine.

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Speaker 1: So the movie start started out interesting because she, like

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you said, makes this pact with Nosfatu. She sort of

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accidentally calls upon him. I didn't exactly understand.

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Speaker 4: He just said that her yearning awakened him from and

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so he's like, do you want to marry me forever?

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She's like bet and then so he is like graping

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her from the underworld until I don't use the please

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and until she gets married, and then that starts protecting her.

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But then he's like, whoa, I don't get access to

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you anymore now that you're under this new.

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Speaker 1: Covenant, right, So it's weird Covenant theology going on in here.

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He also seems to require virgin sacrifice. If you remember

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when they go to Romania, right, that comes up that

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the village takes a virgin out there to him. I

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guess to feed his three or four's.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Exactly what that's.

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Speaker 4: Well, but didn't they say she doesn't die, They just

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you know, have sex with her.

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Speaker 1: And I don't remember. I thought he feeds on her.

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Speaker 4: No, well, I don't think she dies.

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Speaker 1: Though, Okay, But anyway, they mentioned Paracelsus and Agrippa, who

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are Renaissance era magicians and people just studied alchemy and

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the arts, so that's in the background of all this,

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01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:52,039
again telling us that the Bramstoker one that Coppola did

1204
01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:55,800
definitely had this sort of alchemical imagery going on. I've

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not read the novel. I've read Layer of the Whiteworm,

1206
01:14:58,239 --> 01:15:01,199
the other Bramstoker story, which which is interesting and has

1207
01:15:01,279 --> 01:15:06,159
some esoterical stuff going on too, But it begins with

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his his sigil isn't a seven side or eight sided?

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Speaker 6: No, his?

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Speaker 1: And then in the movie is it eight seven?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So his.

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Speaker 1: Sigil is a seven sided goddess sigil, which makes sense

1213
01:15:21,359 --> 01:15:24,119
because he's trying this whole time to unite with the goddess.

1214
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And Crowley also said that in his system, the seven

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01:15:28,359 --> 01:15:33,319
sided sigil is the goddess Lily, Lilith. Lily is Lilith exactly.

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They speak of the plague that comes as a covenant curse,

1217
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,279
so it's sort of like the curses of Egypt in

1218
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,680
the Book of Exodus, right, there's blessings and cursings. The

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01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:52,439
covenant language is all also biblical and they speak of

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01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,079
the plague and the coming of Dracula as if it's

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the apocalypse. It's the coming of the beast.

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Speaker 4: When he comes to England on the Demeter right, and

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01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:05,279
he arrives as the plague of rats and the pale.

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Speaker 1: Horse, right, he calls himself, I am the one. I'm

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01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,039
the pale Horse. I'm coming on, you know, bringing death.

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You have him identifying himself as original sin. So she's

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01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,720
he says to you, to her, you know, I am

1228
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the desire that awakened within you. I am this the

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original sin.

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Speaker 4: Right, and then he was like saying, he's nothing but

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an appetite.

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Speaker 1: Right, mm hmm, Well, it's the pure passions and desire

1233
01:16:33,119 --> 01:16:36,399
of the beast. It's beast, you only beastial body, bodily desires.

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Speaker 4: Just well, the way that they portrayed this, the seizure

1235
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and the climax and like the pleasure and the losing

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your self was.

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01:16:51,159 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: Really it's just gross. It's not well done. There's a

1238
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,279
lot of stupid stuff in it, and a lot of

1239
01:17:00,399 --> 01:17:03,439
just really gross stuff. It's like gross sex magic stuff.

1240
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And then, as Jamie pointed out, as we get towards

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the climax, of the film. He does this inversion thing

1242
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where he says, I'm going to give you three days

1243
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,840
and three nights. That's, of course christ three days, three

1244
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,239
nights is like a reverse Easter. And then on the

1245
01:17:19,319 --> 01:17:26,359
third night or whatever, he essentially copulates with Lily, and

1246
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:31,880
that's what assuages the beast. So that union where Isis

1247
01:17:32,319 --> 01:17:37,760
and Osiris join, and Willem Dafoe specifically identifies her as

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01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,760
a priestess of Isis, so it's nothing Christian. She's not

1249
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,960
at all, you know, he says, you would have been

1250
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,520
put to death in the Middle Ages, but now you're

1251
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,640
going to save this because you're the priest. You're like

1252
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,640
a priestess of Isis. So her bond with the beast

1253
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,319
is what redeems us all to lift the plague. That's

1254
01:17:53,359 --> 01:17:56,760
what Willem Dafoe says. So this is absolutely not at

1255
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:00,760
all in any sense Christian. It's one percent Chrollian. And

1256
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I think that makes perfect sense when you look at Eggers,

1257
01:18:03,279 --> 01:18:08,000
because Edgers himself says he's super into the occult, reading

1258
01:18:08,079 --> 01:18:11,359
all the occult. He loves Witchcraft, he loves I assume Curley,

1259
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,640
So that to me puts it beyond any question that

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that's what it's about.

1261
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Speaker 4: And it was a weird way to end it to that,

1262
01:18:23,039 --> 01:18:29,079
saying he'll never be dead and until she's dead, like

1263
01:18:29,279 --> 01:18:32,239
she couldn't conquer the beast and still go on to live.

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She had to die to get rid of him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so essentially another virgin sacrifice, right. Well, that is

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our vampire analysis. There are other vampire films. Daybreakers with

1267
01:18:49,159 --> 01:18:52,279
Ian Hawk is pretty good. I've never watched True Blood,

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01:18:52,359 --> 01:18:54,600
Jamie said. It was something that she thought was fun.

1269
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Speaker 4: Of course, I like that TV show What We Do

1270
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in the Shadows.

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Speaker 1: That's funny.

1272
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Speaker 4: Look up the Colin Jhost one because that's like, how

1273
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,840
so many people on the internet are They just get

1274
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,960
on there and energy vampire people to death.

1275
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Speaker 1: That's not his name, that's the guy from Centering.

1276
01:19:12,079 --> 01:19:14,359
Speaker 4: Alive, Colin Robinson.

1277
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. Yeah, the energy vampire character is funny.

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01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,399
What do you guys think? Are we missing any vampire movies?

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We did a whole podcast on you want to watch

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our Buffy show? You can watch it here. Bring that

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up for you guys, because we covered all those a

1282
01:19:36,399 --> 01:19:50,880
couple of years ago. Yeah, Friday Night's a good one.

1283
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,319
There's a lot of eighties ones that are fun we.

1284
01:19:53,359 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 4: Didn't cover once spent with Jim Carrey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oldman's Dracula is the funniest for two tuxedo mass

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That was one of the first podcasts that Jamie and

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I did was The Witch. And actually Anya Taylor Joey

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was supposed to play Lily in this movie, but they

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chose Johnny Depp's daughter. So if Jay did it, it

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was his first podcast. Yeah, pretty much. I mean here,

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I just saw today that apparently they're gonna bring back

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which I mean the last two seasons were garbage, so

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I mean they better do that if they want anybody

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to watch it. Maybe. All right, thank you guys so much.

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Remind me of what vampire movies we forgot to talk

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about or we didn't mention that are your favorites. Put

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them in the comments below. Tell us whatever ideas you

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have for us to cover in terms of movies. You

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want to see us do a podcast on some theme,

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some director, some actor and their films. I like your suggestions.

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I think we're gonna do sex bots very soon. Wifebot

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movies are gonna be coming up soon. That'll probably be

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our next Jay and Jamie Extravaganza. Otherwise, have a good night,

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and also follow Jamie over on her channel that is

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