Speaker 1: Is the seat to your rumor? Probably just wanted to
bring it up because you know you are the Venom boy.
So this rumor going around, if I can pull it
up because Twitter fucking messages suck. Now let me go
one more time. Holy shit, this fucking ex Twitter just
just awful. Kirkling like the messages now trying to look
at them. Oh right in So this is take this
with a grand salt. In post Secret wil Wars, Sony
will revisit their spinoff films and make more entries in
the Venom franchise as well, only this time it'll be
set in the actual MCU and be an actual MCU production.
Tom Hardy will not be returning as well. In regards
to the casting, Marvel Studios wants to cast someone within
the same age as Tom Holn, and preferably an unknown
like Tom Holn before his Spider Man casting.
Speaker 2: So how do you feel about this that?
Speaker 1: You know, obviously we had that run of the Venoms,
the Morbius, the Cravens, and then I think it was
like the week after Craven came out, Like obviously Sony
didn't announce it, but a bunch of Scooper like top
tier Scoopers like, yeah, it sounds like this is the it.
Sony's polling the shoot, you're gonna get your Spider Verse films.
Then after that their finger out obviously too. Don't forget
Kirk and we got our Spider No War next year.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Uh So, as was this on.
Speaker 1: The idea of them actually being in the MCU makes
me think this is not true, which that's all I
ask kirkle bats Are, But yeah, how would you feel
about that? And same thing, Yeah, if you think there's
any validity to this. But as far as okay, Sony
wants to get back into it. They want to do
their spinoffs, but this time they wanted to go from
the MCU, so you know, kind of what they didn't
do before. And if it's an MCU production, I don't
know if that would just be in the universe or
if it would be similar to Sony where they are
working with Fi King Company to help make the movie
and that's in there.
Speaker 2: And then also.
Speaker 1: The casting if they were go with the same thing
as Tom Hold as kind of a lesser known person.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like s Bub's comment, like it
it seems less likely if they're pitching, they want to
be in the MCU, like it is a.
Speaker 4: Big locomotive going forward, which is the MCU. If you
can catch right on it, like you're gonna be doing
pretty well. Although you know, I guess maybe not with
the previous projects not doing super super well financially. But
I just think that they would want to just stay
in their own freak show realm because that's just what
they've been doing. And when one freak show comes out,
it just seems like they double down. They're like, well,
we're just gonna keep going with our projects, our spider flicks,
so like believability, and like I guess on the other
side too, like Marvel, Like if if I think they
would be down to get Venom in there just because
it is like the business side of it, like that
is a moneymaker right there. The Venom ip is just
is just super super successful those movies or billion billion
dollar movies just because like popularity the character. I so, yeah,
I don't think people are necessarily going to those movies
for like the cinema. It's more so just fuck yeah,
we're gonna get Venom biting people's heads off, and just
just that that character just seeing that character on screen,
so believability, lower percentage out there. But if we do,
if we are setting up the canvas of a Venom
project renewal, like new actor and whatnot, I would want
them to do probably probably not Eddie Brock, like just
because we just had that, even if it's a different world.
I would love to have like a Flash Thompson version
maybe maybe just what well, I guess we have a
Flash Thompson does.
Speaker 2: Say do you wanted to be that Flash Thompson?
Speaker 4: Never mind? Then I take that back. I kind of
forgot about our Flash Thompson. Oh never mind. Then yeah,
I guess we just do different Eddie because we haven't
had an Eddie right in the MCU.
Speaker 2: No, no Eddie Brock yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, you can also just do a different character.
It doesn't have to be necessarily Eddie Brock.
Speaker 2: But Harry Harry Osborne.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's a version. Did you do something
with like No, Actually, they wouldn't go that where I
was gonna say, like JJ's son j Jo and Jameson's son,
but that's that just seems like too distant kind of
where we are.
Speaker 1: Dyan, who would you want is Venom if you're in there,
Eddie Thompson, all right, fuck Edie Osborne flash Thompson like,
don't get on. Tony Rovio always a good actor, but
I just I.
Speaker 2: Don't want that, Like what was.
Speaker 4: What he does and what he does is Venom?
Speaker 2: You know he is not Venom. I don't.
Speaker 1: I've never personally loved the Harry Osborne as Venom storyline.
Speaker 2: Thompson got very strange.
Speaker 1: You got, Eddie Thompson like, because I guess if you
played this way right, because obviously they left the symbiote
there if you play it this way. Secret Wars is
coming out twenty twenty seven. Let's say the earliest we
get a Spider Man five with Tom Holland fuck Roy
at that. But let's say the earliest we get is
twenty twenty eight, I which I doubt right because if
if Tom Holn is in Secret Wars, he's gonna be filming,
and I I feel like now he's taking a bit
more breaks and being a bit more picky with projects,
which he should.
Speaker 2: But let's say twenty twenty eight, whended Venom come up?
That came out last year? Right? I think the last Venom,
the last chance that sounds right.
Speaker 4: Fuck, he was probably this year or something.
Speaker 2: No, it was last year.
Speaker 1: It was last year because they did the venom and
then Craven right, that was your he was checking out.
Speaker 2: Let's see Pluto four. You're right, so Plutos's hair October
so because what so? Yeah, so that'd be four years.
Speaker 1: I think four years is a good enough break for
the Eddie Brock character, right, you know, Uh, Pluto says,
I never liked him, so it gives him enough excuse
to kill him all that afterwards.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get Harry kill Maurice is because
of that, but yeah, I guess so if you want
that to happen. Uh, and then let's see here, Mike says, uh,
vulter Kin finally returned to his world and finally Morvius
from the Morbious world. Yeah, I wonder where Michael Keaton
is up to.
Speaker 2: They could just ignore that entire subplot of something to
a spider Man. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope it's any Brock, and I hope they
just go the route of like what what said there?
As far as you're going unknown, you find the role.
I think you can we've never gone the proof like
the true proper. It's like the Dark Phoenix thing, right,
We've gone a couple of adaptions of it, but it's
just never right. Alviously got Spider Man three, which in
retrospect now is nowhere near as bad as the comic
films we've got since then, uh, and then but still
not like a great adaption of the Venom character. And
then what they did with Tom Hardy also not a
great adaption. So it feels like we're like Dark Phoenix,
where we're just waiting for them to hit the nail
on the head here.
Speaker 4: And I just hate that comparison the Dark Phoenix.
Speaker 2: It's true though, right, I've been.
Speaker 4: So bad, yeah, right, and then like the more recent
Dark Phoenix stories make the earlier ones not so bad.
So it's kind of the same thing with the Venom storylines.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think what's worse. I think tech
I don't really know. I think technically the Dark Phoenix
ones have been worse, because.
Speaker 2: It probably is.
Speaker 4: It's just been so distant, like so distant from when
I've seen those, So the Venom scars are a lot
like closer more recent for me. The wounds don't feel
scabbed over and healed yet. Where it's like Dark Phoenix.
It's like a little scar on my skin. Now I
don't really think about it, but like the Venom, that
scab is still there and it's starting to flake over.
Speaker 3: Memory's memory is bringing back your I won't forget you, buddy.
Speaker 2: That is the last scene of the Venom trilogy.
Speaker 4: Curtain that's crazy and we're in the I don't even
know where I was recently at the mall or something.
That song came on and I had like an out
of body experience because I'm like, where do I know
this song from? And I'm like, oh, right, looking over
my should I just see Tom already? There won't forget you, buddy.
Speaker 2: Let's see Venom doesn't live up to the potential. Dark
Phoenix is the tragy every time?
Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, No, I think you're right, Pluto, like
I think Venom that even Inspiermin three, I'd say, Okay,
there's at least he's like a villain and he's fighting
Inspider Man right where Dark Phoenix. Yeah, I think is
a lot to be desired there, So I think that's worse.
But yeah, I would be down for it. I think
there's a possibility of this being true. I know that,
like I supposed to like, oh, because he thinks it's
in the MSCU, that makes it not true.
Speaker 2: But I just feel like Sony might go, well, you know,
we don't know what to fucking do with these live
action things, which even though like the answers.
Speaker 1: Right there, like has it's always been either it's Phil
Lord and Chris Miller or just like don't get the
fifty Shades of Gray right and directed like like they are.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm not saying those people can't be talented.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if they want to take it very
seriously and have some acclaim, then spend some money on
getting somebody that's like of actual note directing or writing wise,
and make like a go of it, not just okay
whatever thing more based the same thing with Craven Right.
To me, it's other than the First Venom, which I
feel like they were trying a bit. It's never felt
like that since then. It's very rinse and repeats, so
it's just like you could do this, you can. It's
the same way it's the dumb shows like Inspire Noir,
the Nick Cage Show where he's playing Ben Ryley and
spent a Peter Parker. Why, like why does it matter? Like, oh, well,
the you know Tom Hollands name Peter Parkers.
Speaker 2: We can't do that. So it's like very odd stuff.
Speaker 1: So I do think there's part of them that have
given up and they're like, hey, let's just partner on
the MCU.
Speaker 2: That's what people want them to do, and that's fine.
Speaker 1: Me and Venom is the Venom is the route and
now it's it's just kind of funny how we're kind
of going. I feel like there's other things we've talked
about there, just kind of going back to basics. But
with this, it's like we have Venom the movie, and
we're like, oh, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2: That we're not starting with a Venom spider Man movie
and spinning.
Speaker 1: Off from that and they do a whole trilogy, and like,
you know what we're gonna do Now, we're gonna go
back and we're gonna do Venom.
Speaker 2: And Inspiering movie and then we're gonna do a Vanom movie.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, like this is what we just suggested
the first go around. You know, it's like the same
thing I suggest with clay Face and Batman. It's like,
I don't know if we should do a clay Face
movie before we got our DC Batman, you know, but
we're doing it, so I don't know.
Speaker 2: I like the idea.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 2: The MSU has not had the the smoothest of roads.
Speaker 1: Lately, but I still trust them any day over what
Sony would do. Like I saw what Sony did with
then a movie three times. I won't forget it, buddy, and.
Speaker 2: Like unfortunate money, Yeah, they made.
Speaker 1: Money, and I luckily there's only a few MSU projects
that I could say, hey, are that bar We're all
of Sony's projects, those three, More Vious and Craven, which
I guess I shouldn't say I've still never seen.
Speaker 2: That's like one of the only comic movies.
Speaker 4: I've ever forgot about Craven. That was last year.
Speaker 1: Also, literally there's a clip at eron Tayor Johnson because
I saw on Twitter. I had to send it to
you guys. Right when he smells cologne and going nice perfume.
The woman's like, I'm not wearing any and the guy
like looks at him. He's like she was gonna find
out some point. I sent it to you is this
from Craven. Oh yeah, yeah, so I've only seen that scene.
I've seen that that.
Speaker 2: Ryan or Billy.
Speaker 4: Three says.
Speaker 1: Then them last Dance was legitimate slop. I felt like
how you were watching the Taranteal Fortnite. Sure, yeah, no, Venom.
Speaker 2: Last Dance was.
Speaker 1: I still felt that way about Carne as well too,
but it's it wasn't a good time.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm down for this. I'm sure get a
lesser no.
Speaker 1: Like. The reason why you can get a lesser No.
One too is if you do the movie, people enjoy them.
They'll go and see him where with Venom as a
soul movie before you put them in spread. And you
do have to go get a Tom Hardy actor right
to get people in the door. But if you can
spin the character off from Spider Man, then great it
works out. I just don't know what they're gonna do.
And I hope if we get this Venom storyline, it
is a full hey we're doing the Venom story not
oh it's Venom, but also doctor Strange's here, and also
you know, Iron Man's back or Steve's here, like we
we need it so little kind of venture and hopefully
that it's more street stuff too, you know.
Speaker 4: So do we though, do we need solo adventure because
we just got that with the Sony stuff.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, like just a Spider Man Venom story,
not like how in this upcoming movie we hear punishers
in it, Hulks in it, Elaine is in it. Like
I know, Sony always gets an MSU character. To me,
that's when I hope they would pull the Daredevil thing
and happily hopefully have it as a street story, and
Matt could kind of be the guy that's like, hey,
something's up with you? Or even imagine magine Matt with
the senses and he's talking to Spider Man and he
can just sense that something's off with them, right, Like,
if you could have Matt be that hero that kind
of is juxtaaposed of hey, something's out do they probably
wouldn't do that. They'd probably get one of their A
list actors to do that. But that's I mean, not
Venom solo, just that I want the solo Spider Man
versus Venom sort of thing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, anything else in this.
Speaker 4: No, I yeah, we'll see what happens.
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