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Speaker 1: Is the seat to your rumor? Probably just wanted to

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bring it up because you know you are the Venom boy.

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So this rumor going around, if I can pull it

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up because Twitter fucking messages suck. Now let me go

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one more time. Holy shit, this fucking ex Twitter just

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just awful. Kirkling like the messages now trying to look

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at them. Oh right in So this is take this

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with a grand salt. In post Secret wil Wars, Sony

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will revisit their spinoff films and make more entries in

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the Venom franchise as well, only this time it'll be

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set in the actual MCU and be an actual MCU production.

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Tom Hardy will not be returning as well. In regards

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to the casting, Marvel Studios wants to cast someone within

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the same age as Tom Holn, and preferably an unknown

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like Tom Holn before his Spider Man casting.

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Speaker 2: So how do you feel about this that?

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously we had that run of the Venoms,

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the Morbius, the Cravens, and then I think it was

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like the week after Craven came out, Like obviously Sony

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didn't announce it, but a bunch of Scooper like top

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tier Scoopers like, yeah, it sounds like this is the it.

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Sony's polling the shoot, you're gonna get your Spider Verse films.

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Then after that their finger out obviously too. Don't forget

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Kirk and we got our Spider No War next year.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. Uh So, as was this on.

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Speaker 1: The idea of them actually being in the MCU makes

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me think this is not true, which that's all I

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ask kirkle bats Are, But yeah, how would you feel

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about that? And same thing, Yeah, if you think there's

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any validity to this. But as far as okay, Sony

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wants to get back into it. They want to do

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their spinoffs, but this time they wanted to go from

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the MCU, so you know, kind of what they didn't

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do before. And if it's an MCU production, I don't

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know if that would just be in the universe or

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if it would be similar to Sony where they are

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working with Fi King Company to help make the movie

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and that's in there.

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Speaker 2: And then also.

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Speaker 1: The casting if they were go with the same thing

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as Tom Hold as kind of a lesser known person.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like s Bub's comment, like it

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it seems less likely if they're pitching, they want to

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be in the MCU, like it is a.

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Speaker 4: Big locomotive going forward, which is the MCU. If you

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can catch right on it, like you're gonna be doing

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pretty well. Although you know, I guess maybe not with

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the previous projects not doing super super well financially. But

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I just think that they would want to just stay

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in their own freak show realm because that's just what

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they've been doing. And when one freak show comes out,

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it just seems like they double down. They're like, well,

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we're just gonna keep going with our projects, our spider flicks,

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so like believability, and like I guess on the other

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side too, like Marvel, Like if if I think they

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would be down to get Venom in there just because

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it is like the business side of it, like that

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is a moneymaker right there. The Venom ip is just

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is just super super successful those movies or billion billion

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dollar movies just because like popularity the character. I so, yeah,

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for like the cinema. It's more so just fuck yeah,

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we're gonna get Venom biting people's heads off, and just

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just that that character just seeing that character on screen,

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so believability, lower percentage out there. But if we do,

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if we are setting up the canvas of a Venom

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project renewal, like new actor and whatnot, I would want

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them to do probably probably not Eddie Brock, like just

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because we just had that, even if it's a different world.

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Speaker 2: Say do you wanted to be that Flash Thompson?

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Speaker 4: Never mind? Then I take that back. I kind of

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forgot about our Flash Thompson. Oh never mind. Then yeah,

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Speaker 2: No, no Eddie Brock yet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, you can also just do a different character.

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Speaker 2: But Harry Harry Osborne.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's a version. Did you do something

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but that's that just seems like too distant kind of

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Speaker 1: Dyan, who would you want is Venom if you're in there,

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Eddie Thompson, all right, fuck Edie Osborne flash Thompson like,

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Speaker 2: Don't want that, Like what was.

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Speaker 4: What he does and what he does is Venom?

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Speaker 2: You know he is not Venom. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I've never personally loved the Harry Osborne as Venom storyline.

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Speaker 2: Thompson got very strange.

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Speaker 1: You got, Eddie Thompson like, because I guess if you

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played this way right, because obviously they left the symbiote

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there if you play it this way. Secret Wars is

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coming out twenty twenty seven. Let's say the earliest we

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get a Spider Man five with Tom Holland fuck Roy

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twenty twenty eight, I which I doubt right because if

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if Tom Holn is in Secret Wars, he's gonna be filming,

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and I I feel like now he's taking a bit

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more breaks and being a bit more picky with projects,

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which he should.

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Speaker 2: But let's say twenty twenty eight, whended Venom come up?

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the last chance that sounds right.

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Speaker 4: Fuck, he was probably this year or something.

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Speaker 2: No, it was last year.

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Speaker 1: It was last year because they did the venom and

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then Craven right, that was your he was checking out.

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so because what so? Yeah, so that'd be four years.

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the Eddie Brock character, right, you know, Uh, Pluto says,

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I never liked him, so it gives him enough excuse

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get Harry kill Maurice is because

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of that, but yeah, I guess so if you want

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that to happen. Uh, and then let's see here, Mike says, uh,

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vulter Kin finally returned to his world and finally Morvius

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from the Morbious world. Yeah, I wonder where Michael Keaton

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope it's any Brock, and I hope they

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films we've got since then, uh, and then but still

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not like a great adaption of the Venom character. And

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where we're just waiting for them to hit the nail

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Speaker 4: And I just hate that comparison the Dark Phoenix.

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Speaker 2: It's true though, right, I've been.

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Speaker 4: So bad, yeah, right, and then like the more recent

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think what's worse. I think tech

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Speaker 2: It probably is.

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Speaker 4: It's just been so distant, like so distant from when

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like closer more recent for me. The wounds don't feel

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scabbed over and healed yet. Where it's like Dark Phoenix.

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don't really think about it, but like the Venom, that

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scab is still there and it's starting to flake over.

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Speaker 3: Memory's memory is bringing back your I won't forget you, buddy.

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Speaker 2: That is the last scene of the Venom trilogy.

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Speaker 4: Curtain that's crazy and we're in the I don't even

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of body experience because I'm like, where do I know

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this song from? And I'm like, oh, right, looking over

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my should I just see Tom already? There won't forget you, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Let's see Venom doesn't live up to the potential. Dark

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Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, No, I think you're right, Pluto, like

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there's at least he's like a villain and he's fighting

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a lot to be desired there, So I think that's worse.

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there's a possibility of this being true. I know that,

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Speaker 2: But I just feel like Sony might go, well, you know,

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we don't know what to fucking do with these live

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action things, which even though like the answers.

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Speaker 1: Right there, like has it's always been either it's Phil

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Speaker 2: Like, I'm not saying those people can't be talented.

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and make like a go of it, not just okay

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feel like they were trying a bit. It's never felt

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it's just like you could do this, you can. It's

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the Nick Cage Show where he's playing Ben Ryley and

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spent a Peter Parker. Why, like why does it matter? Like, oh, well,

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the you know Tom Hollands name Peter Parkers.

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Speaker 2: We can't do that. So it's like very odd stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I do think there's part of them that have

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Speaker 2: That's what people want them to do, and that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Me and Venom is the Venom is the route and

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now it's it's just kind of funny how we're kind

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with this, it's like we have Venom the movie, and

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we're like, oh, it's kind of weird.

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Speaker 2: That we're not starting with a Venom spider Man movie

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Speaker 1: Off from that and they do a whole trilogy, and like,

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you know what we're gonna do Now, we're gonna go

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back and we're gonna do Venom.

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Speaker 2: And Inspiering movie and then we're gonna do a Vanom movie.

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, like this is what we just suggested

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the first go around. You know, it's like the same

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movie before we got our DC Batman, you know, but

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we're doing it, so I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I like the idea.

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Speaker 1: True.

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Speaker 2: The MSU has not had the the smoothest of roads.

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Speaker 1: Lately, but I still trust them any day over what

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Sony would do. Like I saw what Sony did with

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then a movie three times. I won't forget it, buddy, and.

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Speaker 2: Like unfortunate money, Yeah, they made.

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Speaker 1: Money, and I luckily there's only a few MSU projects

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that I could say, hey, are that bar We're all

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of Sony's projects, those three, More Vious and Craven, which

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Speaker 2: That's like one of the only comic movies.

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Speaker 4: I've ever forgot about Craven. That was last year.

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Speaker 1: Also, literally there's a clip at eron Tayor Johnson because

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I saw on Twitter. I had to send it to

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you guys. Right when he smells cologne and going nice perfume.

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The woman's like, I'm not wearing any and the guy

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like looks at him. He's like she was gonna find

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out some point. I sent it to you is this

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from Craven. Oh yeah, yeah, so I've only seen that scene.

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I've seen that that.

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Speaker 2: Ryan or Billy.

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Speaker 4: Three says.

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Speaker 1: Then them last Dance was legitimate slop. I felt like

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how you were watching the Taranteal Fortnite. Sure, yeah, no, Venom.

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Speaker 2: Last Dance was.

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Speaker 1: I still felt that way about Carne as well too,

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but it's it wasn't a good time.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm down for this. I'm sure get a

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lesser no.

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Speaker 1: Like. The reason why you can get a lesser No.

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One too is if you do the movie, people enjoy them.

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They'll go and see him where with Venom as a

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soul movie before you put them in spread. And you

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do have to go get a Tom Hardy actor right

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to get people in the door. But if you can

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spin the character off from Spider Man, then great it

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works out. I just don't know what they're gonna do.

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And I hope if we get this Venom storyline, it

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is a full hey we're doing the Venom story not

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oh it's Venom, but also doctor Strange's here, and also

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you know, Iron Man's back or Steve's here, like we

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we need it so little kind of venture and hopefully

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that it's more street stuff too, you know.

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Speaker 4: So do we though, do we need solo adventure because

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we just got that with the Sony stuff.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, like just a Spider Man Venom story,

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not like how in this upcoming movie we hear punishers

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in it, Hulks in it, Elaine is in it. Like

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I know, Sony always gets an MSU character. To me,

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that's when I hope they would pull the Daredevil thing

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and happily hopefully have it as a street story, and

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Matt could kind of be the guy that's like, hey,

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something's up with you? Or even imagine magine Matt with

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the senses and he's talking to Spider Man and he

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can just sense that something's off with them, right, Like,

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if you could have Matt be that hero that kind

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of is juxtaaposed of hey, something's out do they probably

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wouldn't do that. They'd probably get one of their A

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list actors to do that. But that's I mean, not

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Venom solo, just that I want the solo Spider Man

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versus Venom sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, anything else in this.

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Speaker 4: No, I yeah, we'll see what happens.

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be right back.

