WEBVTT

1
00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. All right,

2
00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:24.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm in from the rain and it is pounding the

3
00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:27.320
<v Speaker 1>building I'm in right now. I'm looking out my studio

4
00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:31.640
<v Speaker 1>window and it is pushing against the glass. Strong winds,

5
00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:35.560
<v Speaker 1>strong rain. We've got rain all week. I don't get

6
00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:39.000
<v Speaker 1>unhappy or a bit about the amount of rain we

7
00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:42.439
<v Speaker 1>have because we always can use it. Southern California. I'm

8
00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:44.880
<v Speaker 1>in northern California. I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area.

9
00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:49.200
<v Speaker 1>But people in La they are not getting any rain.

10
00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:53.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, come on, people, you know, get some rain.

11
00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:55.000
<v Speaker 1>They could really use me. And I have friends down there.

12
00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:59.960
<v Speaker 1>So but it's still cold, it's still uncomfortable and I

13
00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:03.240
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I can't get out to hike. I'm

14
00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:08.040
<v Speaker 1>going to force the issue with my girlfriend. On either

15
00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Friday afternoon or Saturday. We're going to try to get

16
00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:15.640
<v Speaker 1>up to a place called Mount Tamapaias in Marin County,

17
00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.719
<v Speaker 1>and it's the highest peak in the Bay area. And

18
00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:22.400
<v Speaker 1>there's some interesting magnetic rock up there by the way

19
00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:26.400
<v Speaker 1>that the Native people would sit on and get energy.

20
00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:27.760
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna see if I can find that. But no,

21
00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:32.359
<v Speaker 1>you go up there to walk around the observatory, and

22
00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:35.599
<v Speaker 1>you also have a great view of the bay if

23
00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:39.799
<v Speaker 1>it's clear, so we need to get it to be clear.

24
00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:44.040
<v Speaker 1>So but you know, the weather's still not good, and

25
00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:46.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not good at a lot of places. So but

26
00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:48.840
<v Speaker 1>we're still in the winter. We're still in the winter.

27
00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:52.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny. I was mentioning on Earth ancients

28
00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:56.480
<v Speaker 1>last week that this cold weather is making me itch

29
00:01:56.599 --> 00:02:02.359
<v Speaker 1>for Turkey, and it's true. Of course, we went in

30
00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:04.239
<v Speaker 1>a season when it was a little warmer than normal,

31
00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:07.400
<v Speaker 1>like one o two to one oh four. But we're

32
00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:11.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna go in June, and if you want to join us,

33
00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:17.280
<v Speaker 1>we'll be going June twenty second through July the second,

34
00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.599
<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk about it a little bit later. But

35
00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:23.439
<v Speaker 1>this is like another one of these once in a

36
00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:27.120
<v Speaker 1>lifetime tours because we're gonna go to Carahan Tippee, which

37
00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:30.599
<v Speaker 1>is somewhat off limits. You can go to parts of it,

38
00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:34.319
<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna see we're gonna have access to the

39
00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:39.039
<v Speaker 1>to the excavation site and they keep uncovering these unusual

40
00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:43.080
<v Speaker 1>sculptures and it's fascinating to look at these things because

41
00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:46.319
<v Speaker 1>we don't know how old they are no Karahan tippies

42
00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I think eleven thousand years old, whereas go Beckley Teppees

43
00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:56.560
<v Speaker 1>twelve five hundred. And there's another mountain region that's further north.

44
00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:59.840
<v Speaker 1>It's apparently four they've dated it to fourteen thousand years.

45
00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:03.360
<v Speaker 1>What are they going to do if they land upon

46
00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:07.560
<v Speaker 1>one of these tepees and it's twenty thousand years old?

47
00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:10.479
<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of people don't realize that when

48
00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you do car that's our number one way of dating

49
00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.599
<v Speaker 1>is carbon dating. You look at the carbon and you see,

50
00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:19.319
<v Speaker 1>you know when it first appeared, it goes I think

51
00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:23.439
<v Speaker 1>at Max's at fifty thousand years. Can you imagine a

52
00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:28.800
<v Speaker 1>sophisticated civilization carbon dated at twenty thousand years? I mean,

53
00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:32.840
<v Speaker 1>we're almost there, We're at fourteen thousand right now. And

54
00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:38.439
<v Speaker 1>what we show in ancient cultures, most notably the Egyptian

55
00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:42.280
<v Speaker 1>in the Maya, these earlier people were the most sophisticated.

56
00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:46.680
<v Speaker 1>That leads credence to our theory that there was a

57
00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:53.840
<v Speaker 1>sophisticated ancient society prior to this worldwide deluge. Well that's water,

58
00:03:53.919 --> 00:04:01.439
<v Speaker 1>but worldwide asteroid impact catastrophic event that led to a

59
00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:06.039
<v Speaker 1>global flood, global tsunami, and that's what's so fun about

60
00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:11.919
<v Speaker 1>this whole Ancient Earth, ancient civilization thinking, is that we're

61
00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:14.599
<v Speaker 1>missing a huge part of our history because it was

62
00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:19.600
<v Speaker 1>blotted out over a period of time. Now, Randall Carlson

63
00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:27.720
<v Speaker 1>talks about this impact happening in a series of days, weeks, months,

64
00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:30.959
<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't just one big impact. It was a

65
00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:35.759
<v Speaker 1>continual impact, but still had the same results. Eighty percent

66
00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:43.040
<v Speaker 1>of the land animals, sabertooth tigers, mastodons, sloths, four legged

67
00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:48.920
<v Speaker 1>creatures were wiped out eighty percent. And what would that

68
00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:53.680
<v Speaker 1>lead us to understand the human population? How would the

69
00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:59.959
<v Speaker 1>human population survived? Well, they're not as exposed as the animals,

70
00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:04.240
<v Speaker 1>but I believe the Maya and especially Mexico Ucatan, Mexico,

71
00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:09.360
<v Speaker 1>had established the great cities by then, and if they

72
00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:12.800
<v Speaker 1>were wiped out, what would we have left. We would

73
00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:18.160
<v Speaker 1>have their stone buildings, their stone temples, their stone pyramids,

74
00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:22.399
<v Speaker 1>their stone causeways. And you've got to remember the Maya

75
00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:28.040
<v Speaker 1>were genius engineers. They built causeways, hydraulic systems, and what

76
00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:33.399
<v Speaker 1>are known as sock bees, the white roads that run

77
00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:38.879
<v Speaker 1>for hundreds, if not thousands of miles through Guatemala, hundreds

78
00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.560
<v Speaker 1>of miles in Yucatan. They're slowly uncovering all of this,

79
00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and we've had engineers on the program. The sock bees

80
00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:52.959
<v Speaker 1>are works of genius because they are multi levels of dirt, cement, mortar,

81
00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and then more cement, and they're like built to last generations.

82
00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Water runs off of them, they're not They can stand

83
00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:07.800
<v Speaker 1>all types of weather systems, all kinds of abuse, and

84
00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:14.000
<v Speaker 1>they keep on knocking, they keep on functioning. So these

85
00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:18.079
<v Speaker 1>advanced societies, I believe, and this is the theory of

86
00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:19.639
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other people that are on the show,

87
00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:25.000
<v Speaker 1>is that the earliest people were much more sophisticated than

88
00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:27.040
<v Speaker 1>we are now. Now. If you remember when we had

89
00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:31.839
<v Speaker 1>Chris Dunn on the program, he was emphatic that the

90
00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Egyptians that built the Great Pyramids were earth based scientists.

91
00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:40.959
<v Speaker 1>They had studied the telluric emissions from the Earth. These

92
00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:47.759
<v Speaker 1>are the bubbling energy flows that come and go, and

93
00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:51.639
<v Speaker 1>they built a whole science, physics, and technology around it.

94
00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I now believe the Maya were the same way. If

95
00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you go to one of the great Mayan cities, chichinisa

96
00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Ushmi t call El Miador, you name it. There's really

97
00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:08.839
<v Speaker 1>only thirty that we've found so far and excavated with

98
00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:14.120
<v Speaker 1>any level of comprehension, you'll see that there is a

99
00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:19.240
<v Speaker 1>special science around the building of these pyramids, and we'll

100
00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:23.199
<v Speaker 1>talk more about that later. So the point being is

101
00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:30.199
<v Speaker 1>that there's more to uncover, there's more to see. We've

102
00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.759
<v Speaker 1>had a number of people on the program talking about

103
00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:38.079
<v Speaker 1>the energies, doctor Lydia Di Leong. We've had Hugh Newman,

104
00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Collins and Annie Williams, and now we had Howard

105
00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Crowhurst telling us about the megalists sitting on these sacred geometry.

106
00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:58.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, the three four five angle appears in all

107
00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the negalis that he discovered, not only in Karnac, France,

108
00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:07.279
<v Speaker 1>but around the world. So something's going on. It's all

109
00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:10.079
<v Speaker 1>coming to light and I love it and I hope

110
00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you do too, So keep listening. Hey, today's program is

111
00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:21.399
<v Speaker 1>about frequency, the afterlife frequency, and we are focusing on

112
00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:26.839
<v Speaker 1>the energy around humans, which we know as chakra systems,

113
00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:30.920
<v Speaker 1>the meridians. We don't talk enough about the meridians. The

114
00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Chinese discovered the body's meridians, which is a super highway

115
00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:40.679
<v Speaker 1>of energy that runs through the body like the blood system,

116
00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:45.039
<v Speaker 1>blood flow, blood arteries. They discovered it over seven thousand

117
00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:49.679
<v Speaker 1>years ago, likely much longer and older than that, but

118
00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:53.200
<v Speaker 1>it is part of our frequency, part of the energy

119
00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:57.200
<v Speaker 1>that the body produces that captures the body's an engine

120
00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and ebbs and flows. And of course, if you talk

121
00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:05.399
<v Speaker 1>to an allopath, our medical doctors of today, they don't

122
00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:08.200
<v Speaker 1>know what you're talking about. But if you talk to

123
00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:12.039
<v Speaker 1>a Chinese medical doctor, if you talk to a yoga instructor,

124
00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:15.879
<v Speaker 1>if you talk to anyone who's talking about teaching, meditation

125
00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:19.559
<v Speaker 1>and herbalists, a lot of these people understand that the

126
00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:24.039
<v Speaker 1>energy and the system that the body creates is vital

127
00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:27.879
<v Speaker 1>to wellness. So when you take a medicine, you basically

128
00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:34.240
<v Speaker 1>stop that flow and you cause more problems. But today's

129
00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:40.360
<v Speaker 1>program is important to learn about because my guest is

130
00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:45.960
<v Speaker 1>presenting proof that we are physically here, that we have

131
00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:52.360
<v Speaker 1>energy systems, but there is also a soul energy. There's

132
00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:58.399
<v Speaker 1>an energy that our interior soul frequency is important as well.

133
00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:02.879
<v Speaker 1>And when we pass over to the afterlife or heaven,

134
00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:09.080
<v Speaker 1>our soul is an energy and that energy leaves and

135
00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.519
<v Speaker 1>goes with us to the other side. So we're gonna

136
00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:17.080
<v Speaker 1>learn the details of that in this new in today's podcast.

137
00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Now we want to know this because we want to

138
00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:24.240
<v Speaker 1>be aware of how to live the best physical life

139
00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:27.879
<v Speaker 1>that we can, and that means taking care of the machine.

140
00:10:27.919 --> 00:10:31.960
<v Speaker 1>What's the machine, the body and the brain, and also

141
00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:35.639
<v Speaker 1>it connects to the spirit, to the higher levels. But

142
00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:38.840
<v Speaker 1>if we're not doing any walking, if we're sitting around

143
00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:42.759
<v Speaker 1>watching TV from morning in to night for not exercising,

144
00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.679
<v Speaker 1>that's not taking care of the body. If we're eating sugars,

145
00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:50.840
<v Speaker 1>refined foods, too much dairy, too much meat, that's not

146
00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:53.600
<v Speaker 1>taking care of the engine. You need to be aware

147
00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:55.759
<v Speaker 1>of the engine, turn the brain back on and have

148
00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:58.639
<v Speaker 1>it connect to the body. We don't need to be sick.

149
00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:01.039
<v Speaker 1>We want to live as as long as we can

150
00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:04.799
<v Speaker 1>as well as we can in a healthy state. So

151
00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:10.879
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, so you guys know about that, and this

152
00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:14.200
<v Speaker 1>is why biohacking is so important right now, you know.

153
00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:16.720
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I think I mentioned I'm on

154
00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:22.000
<v Speaker 1>semi glue type, which is the main compound in ozimpic.

155
00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:26.039
<v Speaker 1>I've lost weight. I've lost like two and a half

156
00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:32.399
<v Speaker 1>belt sizes, about one and a half pant sizes. And

157
00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:36.360
<v Speaker 1>it's funny. What's really funny is I went in for

158
00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:39.759
<v Speaker 1>my checkup on the doctor's like, Okay, what meds are

159
00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:43.279
<v Speaker 1>you on? And she was looking at the chart. I'm

160
00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:47.679
<v Speaker 1>off all meds because semi glue type which is a peptide,

161
00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a pep tide actually helps the heart and the

162
00:11:54.639 --> 00:12:00.360
<v Speaker 1>cardio cardiovascular system. And a few hospitals are coming align

163
00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:03.600
<v Speaker 1>with this step, but most of them don't have a clue.

164
00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Don't have a clue what that's all about. So it's

165
00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:10.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of important to take your health into your own

166
00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:14.879
<v Speaker 1>hands and do the best you can. So today's program

167
00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:20.200
<v Speaker 1>is the Afterlife Frequency, the scientific proof of spiritual contact

168
00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and how that awareness will change your life. And my

169
00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:31.919
<v Speaker 1>guest today is Mark Anthony. If you haven't been a Turkey,

170
00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:35.519
<v Speaker 1>it is a fabulous country to visit. Not only is

171
00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Istanbul a cosmopolitan, very modern city, but the people are wonderful,

172
00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:45.919
<v Speaker 1>the food, the beverages are fantastic and of course if

173
00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:49.679
<v Speaker 1>you're with Earth ancients, we're going to see the ancient sites.

174
00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Our tour this year is June twenty second to July second,

175
00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and we'll be visiting go Beckley Tepee, the underground city

176
00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:04.679
<v Speaker 1>of darren Kuru, the Cappadocia, the hill cities, Carahan Tippye,

177
00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:08.559
<v Speaker 1>will visit karahand Tippye and have private visits with the

178
00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:13.960
<v Speaker 1>archaeological team that is continuing to excavate that amazing city

179
00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:20.799
<v Speaker 1>and discovering beautiful carvings from deep within Earth's antiquity. If

180
00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:22.879
<v Speaker 1>you'd like to join us, go to earth agents dot

181
00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:26.240
<v Speaker 1>com forward slash tours check it out. We have the

182
00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:30.399
<v Speaker 1>full itinerary for you to view and also more details

183
00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:33.840
<v Speaker 1>available for registration. Turkey is not to be missed. We

184
00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:36.759
<v Speaker 1>do it once a year. We take small groups of

185
00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:40.039
<v Speaker 1>people so we all can see the museums, we can

186
00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:43.360
<v Speaker 1>stay on one bus and it's a wonderful country to tour.

187
00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:47.120
<v Speaker 1>For more information go to Earth Ancients dot com forward

188
00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:50.759
<v Speaker 1>slash tours and see all the details, or email me

189
00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:53.159
<v Speaker 1>at earth Ancients the number four of the letter you

190
00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:57.320
<v Speaker 1>at gmail dot com for any specifics you might need.

191
00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:00.679
<v Speaker 1>This is a special tour that's you unique, will be

192
00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:03.639
<v Speaker 1>with solid tours and it is not to be missed. Again.

193
00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:07.240
<v Speaker 1>For more information and to register, go to Earthacients dot

194
00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:57.200
<v Speaker 1>com forward slash Tours. Science has identified the universe as

195
00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:00.120
<v Speaker 1>an energy based system. We did. We're just lear you

196
00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:03.320
<v Speaker 1>know all about this quantum theory string theory. We've had

197
00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Micheo Kaku on the show. In the past, we've had

198
00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:12.799
<v Speaker 1>others talking about this and my guest today and actually

199
00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:16.399
<v Speaker 1>taking a part of that, and we've had people on

200
00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the program talking about our ancestors, the Egyptians of the Maya,

201
00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:25.320
<v Speaker 1>who understood the afterlife. My guest today is Mark Anthony.

202
00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:30.000
<v Speaker 1>He is a lawyer. He is a psychic lawyer, a

203
00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:32.879
<v Speaker 1>he's known as the psychic Lawyer, which is interesting. He's

204
00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a multi multi generational psychic and he's also quite a

205
00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:40.399
<v Speaker 1>prolific writer. He is book that we're talking about today

206
00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:45.039
<v Speaker 1>is called The Afterlife Frequency, The Scientific Proof of spiritual

207
00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Contact and how that awareness will change your life. But

208
00:15:49.159 --> 00:15:52.559
<v Speaker 1>he also has written other books, Never let Letting Go

209
00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:57.039
<v Speaker 1>and Evidence of Eternity, which deals with the afterlife. And

210
00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:00.399
<v Speaker 1>we're going to learn today just how he has tapped

211
00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:05.559
<v Speaker 1>into this frequency and has a message for us. So, Hey, Mark,

212
00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:08.240
<v Speaker 1>welcome to Destiny. Great to see you.

213
00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Cliff. It is really great to be here.

214
00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.399
<v Speaker 1>It must have been interesting to be raised in a

215
00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:18.840
<v Speaker 1>family of mediums or psychics. Talk a little bit about that.

216
00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:22.559
<v Speaker 1>Were you aware of your gifts as a child and

217
00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:27.399
<v Speaker 1>hearing voices and seeing spirits and the ghosts in the house.

218
00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:28.639
<v Speaker 1>Talk about that a little bit.

219
00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my family was kind of like the Adams family

220
00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:36.559
<v Speaker 2>in the neighborhood, if you will. But seriously, both my

221
00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:39.559
<v Speaker 2>parents had these abilities. My mother was a commercial artist.

222
00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:43.759
<v Speaker 2>My dad was an aerospace engineer, but before that he

223
00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:47.080
<v Speaker 2>was an av seal, And so this runs back four

224
00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:50.080
<v Speaker 2>generations on both sides of the family. I'm the first

225
00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:54.000
<v Speaker 2>one to go really public with it. I mean, everybody

226
00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:58.480
<v Speaker 2>knew there was something about our family, and when I

227
00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:01.000
<v Speaker 2>was about three and a half years old, I started

228
00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:05.319
<v Speaker 2>interacting with my invisible friend. It's not unusual for sorry

229
00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:08.440
<v Speaker 2>about that, we're toddler to have invisible friends. But when

230
00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:11.319
<v Speaker 2>mommy and Daddy can see who I was talking to,

231
00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:14.839
<v Speaker 2>I remember mom was like, oh my gosh, he's got it,

232
00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:18.079
<v Speaker 2>and Dad was like, oh, dear god, he's got it.

233
00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:25.440
<v Speaker 1>So they were were they communicating openly with the other

234
00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:30.039
<v Speaker 1>realms in your presence or were they just encouraging you

235
00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:36.000
<v Speaker 1>as a as their son to develop your gifts.

236
00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:38.880
<v Speaker 2>That's a you know, that's a really good question and

237
00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:42.319
<v Speaker 2>nobody's ever asked it like that, So so thank you, Cliff.

238
00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:47.839
<v Speaker 2>This was something. It's it's a genetically inherited trait in

239
00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:50.400
<v Speaker 2>my family, and it's what's known as a recessive trait.

240
00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:52.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like being left handed. You know, most people in

241
00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:54.759
<v Speaker 2>the world are right handed, but whether or not you're

242
00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:58.319
<v Speaker 2>right handed or left handed, that's genetics, okay. And it's

243
00:17:58.359 --> 00:18:01.640
<v Speaker 2>the same thing with other types of abilities, including this.

244
00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:05.480
<v Speaker 2>But when you have two parents with the same recessive trait,

245
00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:08.319
<v Speaker 2>it increases the likelihood when of their kids is going

246
00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:10.200
<v Speaker 2>to have that trait. And I have an older brother

247
00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:15.079
<v Speaker 2>and older sister, and they're not mediums, but they are precognitive.

248
00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.279
<v Speaker 2>In other words, they anticipate future events and they get

249
00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.200
<v Speaker 2>feelings about things. But I seem to get the whole package.

250
00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:27.799
<v Speaker 2>And my mom would talk about her abilities openly. I mean,

251
00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:30.920
<v Speaker 2>she was careful about who she would talk about them too,

252
00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:36.480
<v Speaker 2>but my dad kept it kind of under wraps. And

253
00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:40.319
<v Speaker 2>so when I was three and a half, that's when

254
00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:44.759
<v Speaker 2>I started seeing spirits. When I was four, I literally died,

255
00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:48.359
<v Speaker 2>I flatlined and was resuscitated. I had a near death experience.

256
00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:51.079
<v Speaker 2>And then by the time I was five, I had

257
00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:55.519
<v Speaker 2>started first grade. And my dad's family, they were very

258
00:18:55.559 --> 00:19:01.119
<v Speaker 2>conservative Pennsylvania Baptists. My mother's family, they were Italian Catholics

259
00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:03.880
<v Speaker 2>and the Italians looked at this as a gift from God,

260
00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:07.400
<v Speaker 2>the gift of second to sight. You know, my grandfather

261
00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:11.960
<v Speaker 2>was from Italy, and in fact, my maternal great grandmother, Giovanna,

262
00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:16.480
<v Speaker 2>was known in the Italian community of Italy in New

263
00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:20.640
<v Speaker 2>York and North New Jersey as the woman who knows things,

264
00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:24.079
<v Speaker 2>and fact, Catholic church officials would go and meet with

265
00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:27.119
<v Speaker 2>her all the way up to cardinals. Wow, and what's

266
00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:30.359
<v Speaker 2>really cool clip is. Back in twenty sixteen, PBS did

267
00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:33.400
<v Speaker 2>a special called The Italian Americans. It was a two

268
00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:37.039
<v Speaker 2>night special and they actually did an entire segment on

269
00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:41.680
<v Speaker 2>my maternal great grandmother Giovanna, and they actually referenced her

270
00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:45.039
<v Speaker 2>psychic abilities. And it was really cool seeing that. It's

271
00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:47.480
<v Speaker 2>like every commercial. One of my cousins is college. Did

272
00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:49.960
<v Speaker 2>you see that? You know, we're all tuned in. But

273
00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.039
<v Speaker 2>what my dad told me when I was starting school,

274
00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:58.559
<v Speaker 2>he sat me down and he said, Mark, do not

275
00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:02.720
<v Speaker 2>talk about these things to anyone except your mother or me,

276
00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:07.759
<v Speaker 2>because people who see things others don't will get taken away.

277
00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, let me tell you. That really scared me.

278
00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:16.200
<v Speaker 2>And he could see I was scared, and I was

279
00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:18.720
<v Speaker 2>like shaking, and I remember he held me. Your dad

280
00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:20.240
<v Speaker 2>was a tough guy, but he was a He was

281
00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:23.960
<v Speaker 2>an affectionate dad. He was a great father. Excuse me,

282
00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:30.200
<v Speaker 2>and he I understood years later why he was so worried.

283
00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:34.200
<v Speaker 2>And if I can digress just a bit, my dad

284
00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:38.400
<v Speaker 2>had four siblings, three sisters and a brother. One of

285
00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:42.079
<v Speaker 2>his sisters was also a medium like he was, as

286
00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:48.880
<v Speaker 2>was their mother Isbell and the eternal grandmother Grace. And

287
00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:52.200
<v Speaker 2>up in this little town in Pennsylvania that they lived,

288
00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:55.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, everybody knew that. You know, you know, people

289
00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:59.079
<v Speaker 2>would women would come over on Thursday afternoons under the

290
00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:04.039
<v Speaker 2>uh ast of playing canasta, but they're actually getting readings

291
00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:11.960
<v Speaker 2>from my grandmother and my great grandmother. But my father sister, Marjorie,

292
00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:15.839
<v Speaker 2>she married this religious zealot, and I'm being kind there.

293
00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I'd prefer to call him a religious fanatic, and he

294
00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:21.960
<v Speaker 2>was afraid of her abilities. He felt that they were,

295
00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:25.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, somehow evil or demonic. And the

296
00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:29.279
<v Speaker 2>problem with people that yank verses out of the Bible

297
00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:33.680
<v Speaker 2>is that there are some passages that say, you know,

298
00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:37.680
<v Speaker 2>don't be a medium. But that would be in Deuteronomy eighteen,

299
00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:41.960
<v Speaker 2>verses ten through twenty two. But later in the passage

300
00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:45.680
<v Speaker 2>it says, if basically what the prophet, which is Bible

301
00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>speak for a medium says is true, then it's sanctioned

302
00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:52.079
<v Speaker 2>by God. Okay. So in the very same passage that

303
00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:56.519
<v Speaker 2>people want to condemn us, it also sanctions us. And

304
00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:03.359
<v Speaker 2>also in the Testament. One of my favorite books is

305
00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:08.440
<v Speaker 2>a First Book of Corinthians. Chapters twelve twelve, Verses four

306
00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:12.119
<v Speaker 2>through twelve lists the gifts that God bestows on all

307
00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:15.680
<v Speaker 2>of us, two of which prophecy, which is foreseeing the future.

308
00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:21.400
<v Speaker 2>The other is discernment of spirits, which is what we do. Okay.

309
00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:26.599
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, Marjorie's married to this religious extremist and one

310
00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:28.960
<v Speaker 2>day he's getting ready to go to work. He was

311
00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:33.359
<v Speaker 2>a machinist and he worked at a steel plant in Harrison, Pennsylvania,

312
00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:36.519
<v Speaker 2>and she didn't want him going to work that day.

313
00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:38.599
<v Speaker 2>She had a terrible feeling and she'd get it in

314
00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:40.519
<v Speaker 2>her stomach, and she begged him not to go. And

315
00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:42.680
<v Speaker 2>they got into a big argument and said, fine, fine,

316
00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:45.720
<v Speaker 2>you and that voodoo stuff. Years Well, that day cliff

317
00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:49.440
<v Speaker 2>a crane was lifting thousands of pounds of steel beams

318
00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:52.200
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, the cable snapped and they fell,

319
00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:54.519
<v Speaker 2>and it crushed the machine shop that he worked in

320
00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:58.799
<v Speaker 2>and killed everybody in it. Oh boy, yeah, had he

321
00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:04.079
<v Speaker 2>been at work, he would been killed. Well. Instead of

322
00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:07.440
<v Speaker 2>being grateful, what he did is he conspired with an

323
00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:13.680
<v Speaker 2>unscrupulous psychiatrist. He had Marjorie diagnosed to schizophrenic. They literally

324
00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:18.880
<v Speaker 2>sent an ambulance to their house. Guys in white coats forcibly,

325
00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:21.759
<v Speaker 2>removed her from her home, put her in a stray jacket.

326
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:23.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, this is like twenty years before I was born.

327
00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:26.440
<v Speaker 2>This is like in the nineteen fifties. Took her to

328
00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:30.640
<v Speaker 2>an insane asylum where she was subjected to an electroshock

329
00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:35.119
<v Speaker 2>therapy for over six months, and it damaged her brain

330
00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:39.960
<v Speaker 2>so much Marjorie never again talked about spirit seeing the future.

331
00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:43.720
<v Speaker 2>She used to be like a bubbly, pleasant woman, and

332
00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:47.640
<v Speaker 2>after that she was just really withdrawn. So I didn't

333
00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:50.319
<v Speaker 2>know this obviously when I was five years old. I

334
00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:53.359
<v Speaker 2>found this out as I became a teenager, because I'd

335
00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:55.640
<v Speaker 2>start hearing people talk about Aunt Marjorie, and then I

336
00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:58.359
<v Speaker 2>heard that she had died. I never met her in

337
00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:03.079
<v Speaker 2>this world, So now I understand why my father was

338
00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:10.079
<v Speaker 2>so worried because historically mediums have been vilified in some

339
00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:13.640
<v Speaker 2>parts of the world. In Middle Eastern countries like Saudi

340
00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Arabia and Iran, certainly Afghanistan, people with these abilities are

341
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:21.680
<v Speaker 2>put to death. Yeah, and so there are still elements

342
00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:24.119
<v Speaker 2>that are very extreme in the West, even though there's

343
00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:26.680
<v Speaker 2>people that scoff at it. It is being studied, and

344
00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I've been part of these studies. I've been studied in

345
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:33.000
<v Speaker 2>part of studies on mediums, like how are we getting

346
00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:37.920
<v Speaker 2>the information? Yeah, part of afterlife science. So it has

347
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:44.359
<v Speaker 2>been a very interesting life and anyway, so that is yes,

348
00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:47.160
<v Speaker 2>my parents were like, it's okay to be a medium,

349
00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:50.400
<v Speaker 2>but just talk about it to us. And now I

350
00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:56.400
<v Speaker 2>understand because in their era, Yeah, up in an insane

351
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:57.480
<v Speaker 2>as island, talk.

352
00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:01.160
<v Speaker 1>About what you see, Mark would I mean, it's so

353
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:04.640
<v Speaker 1>natural for you. I would imagine that if there is

354
00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>a ghost or a recently departed soul who you are

355
00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:15.119
<v Speaker 1>able to see or maybe they and we'll talk about this.

356
00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:19.039
<v Speaker 1>They recognize that you can perceive them, so they're trying

357
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>to communicate with us. What as a child, as a

358
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:25.880
<v Speaker 1>younger person, it's great to have parents and relatives who

359
00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:28.279
<v Speaker 1>are like don't worry. This is who you are. You

360
00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:32.079
<v Speaker 1>can accept this, don't be afraid. This is what you're experiencing.

361
00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>But talk about beginning to receive this information through these souls.

362
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:43.880
<v Speaker 2>What happens when I open up my brain to frequency?

363
00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Because people say, well, do they come to you all

364
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:49.799
<v Speaker 2>the time? Well, they can, But because I run into

365
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:53.799
<v Speaker 2>or I cross paths with inexperienced mediums, these young mediums,

366
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:55.680
<v Speaker 2>oh spirits around me all the time. And it's like, well,

367
00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:58.200
<v Speaker 2>that's great, but do you leave the doors and windows

368
00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:01.559
<v Speaker 2>of your house open and unlow four to seven? Why?

369
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Why then would you do that to your brain and

370
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:06.680
<v Speaker 2>to your psyche. And it's not that there's evil spirits

371
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:12.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna get you. It has to do with setting boundaries paramters.

372
00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:14.960
<v Speaker 2>You let the spirits know I'm either doing this or

373
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. Why, Because if you're open all the time,

374
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 2>you're actually degrading the quality of the contact. Also, you're

375
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:25.200
<v Speaker 2>depleting yourself mentally, and it can be mentally, emotionally and

376
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:31.200
<v Speaker 2>physically and actually spiritually exhausting. So I limit the amount

377
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:33.640
<v Speaker 2>of time that I spend doing readings per day. It's

378
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.680
<v Speaker 2>no more than two readings per day. And because that way,

379
00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 2>it maintains the quality. And and because this ability is

380
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:43.720
<v Speaker 2>like a battery, it runs down and has to be replenished.

381
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:46.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, It's just like athletic ability. And you get

382
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.000
<v Speaker 2>an athlete, they can play a couple of you know,

383
00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:51.200
<v Speaker 2>games of basketball. Well, when you're done, you got to

384
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:55.279
<v Speaker 2>you gotta rest, you gotta recharge. And so when I

385
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:58.079
<v Speaker 2>open up the frequency, what will happen is I get

386
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:01.519
<v Speaker 2>the sensation. It's kind of tingly, and that's electromagnetic energy,

387
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:03.839
<v Speaker 2>which we're going to talk about in a bit. And

388
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:06.400
<v Speaker 2>so when a spirit comes to me, what spirits do

389
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:11.279
<v Speaker 2>is they send a wave of EM energy, electromagnetic frequency

390
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:14.640
<v Speaker 2>that goes into my brain, and then my brain's EM

391
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:20.119
<v Speaker 2>field interfases with the spirits and the EM frequency or

392
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:25.359
<v Speaker 2>wave gets converted into recognizable concepts based on my memories, feelings,

393
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and cultural associations. Initially, when a spirit comes in, first

394
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:32.279
<v Speaker 2>I sense the gender. Then I get an idea of

395
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:34.920
<v Speaker 2>their relationship to you. So if I'm doing a reading

396
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:36.880
<v Speaker 2>on someone, I feel that they're on your level. That's

397
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:41.440
<v Speaker 2>your generation sibling, cousin's spouse, friend, the lawyer level, child, niece, nephew,

398
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.400
<v Speaker 2>above your level parent, aunt, uncle, so on and so forth.

399
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:47.119
<v Speaker 2>They don't have to be relatives, so like a lady

400
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:50.480
<v Speaker 2>on the mother level, could be a teacher, boss, professor, stepmother,

401
00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:52.640
<v Speaker 2>mother in law that you may have had at some

402
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 2>point during your life, or could be a friend that

403
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:58.240
<v Speaker 2>was older. Okay, then they're going to start transmitting to

404
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:02.039
<v Speaker 2>me all types of information. I will see things, hear things,

405
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:05.160
<v Speaker 2>feel things, and know things, and then I start describing

406
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:07.920
<v Speaker 2>it to the recipient so that they can confirm it.

407
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.240
<v Speaker 2>So that, in a nutshell, is how things come. People

408
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>always want to know, well, do you see them standing

409
00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:16.559
<v Speaker 2>in the room. Well, I can, but it's a lot

410
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:20.359
<v Speaker 2>of energy for the spirit to make that form of manifestation,

411
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:24.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's very draining on me. So most of the

412
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:27.079
<v Speaker 2>time they'd rather just send the information right into my

413
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 2>brain and the way I see them would be the

414
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.119
<v Speaker 2>way you would see a vivid memory. So Cliff, for

415
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:38.720
<v Speaker 2>you and for all the listeners, Statue of Liberty, to

416
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 2>see her in your mind's eye, that's how I see spirits.

417
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Wow, okay, you're you're a lawyer, but you also do readings.

418
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Talk about your gifts as a lawyer, Can you enhance

419
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:59.319
<v Speaker 1>a because I mean in your book you talk about

420
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:03.079
<v Speaker 1>being a criminal defense attorneys. So for the different roles,

421
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>does it come into play in your profession where you

422
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>can actually access data that is valuable to a case.

423
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Talk about that, because I would think that you're dialing in.

424
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 1>You're dialing in.

425
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:23.039
<v Speaker 2>I have so many stories just for everyone's edification. My

426
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:27.160
<v Speaker 2>life's work is now focused on the spiritual. So so

427
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:31.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing you know, readings, and I appear as a

428
00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:37.079
<v Speaker 2>lecturer at afterlife conferences and ancient mysteries conferences as well.

429
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:39.960
<v Speaker 2>But when I was practicing law full time, you know,

430
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:43.160
<v Speaker 2>it's part of my skill set, I would start picking

431
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>up on things and like one time I was doing

432
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:51.599
<v Speaker 2>I was. I started off as a prosecutor, then I

433
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.759
<v Speaker 2>became a criminal defense lawyer. Then I went into complex

434
00:29:54.839 --> 00:30:00.119
<v Speaker 2>civil litigation with special particular emphasis on brain injury. And

435
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:05.240
<v Speaker 2>that's when I started seeing the parallel between the human

436
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:09.119
<v Speaker 2>physiology and spirit communication. In other words, there is a

437
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:15.039
<v Speaker 2>bonafide reason and explanation how this happens and why this happens.

438
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>It's not pocus pocus or magic. It's based on frequency,

439
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:24.759
<v Speaker 2>energy transfer and human physiology. So I was as a

440
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:27.440
<v Speaker 2>criminal offense attorney, I had this one case and my

441
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>client was this big bruiser and he'd got into a

442
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:32.160
<v Speaker 2>fight with this guy at a bar, and my client

443
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.640
<v Speaker 2>beat the daylights out of the other guy. So the

444
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>other guy filed charges for aggravated battery. And at the

445
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:44.559
<v Speaker 2>risk of sounding facetious, it's not unusual in criminal cases,

446
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.119
<v Speaker 2>like when there's mutual combat, the loser is the one

447
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:50.880
<v Speaker 2>that files charges. So it's the beginning of the trial.

448
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:55.319
<v Speaker 2>It's jury selection, and jury selection is extremely important because

449
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:58.119
<v Speaker 2>you have to have a fair and impartial jury, or

450
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:03.480
<v Speaker 2>at least you know that's that's what is supposed to happen.

451
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>And so the judge will bring in they will bring

452
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:10.559
<v Speaker 2>in a panel of prospective jurors, and both sides get

453
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:15.079
<v Speaker 2>to ask questions, and then he can eliminate people till

454
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 2>you get down to In this instance, would have been

455
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.559
<v Speaker 2>six jurors in one alternate. In bigger felonies, it would

456
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:25.240
<v Speaker 2>be twelve jurors and maybe two or three alternates. We

457
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>saw that like in the oj case and the Menendez

458
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>And so the prosecutor went through through his questioning and

459
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.319
<v Speaker 2>then it was my turn to ask the prospective jurors questions.

460
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>In this part of the trial, Jerry's selection is known

461
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>as wadir, which is a French term which means to

462
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:51.599
<v Speaker 2>speak the truth. And this is before any witnesses or evidence.

463
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>So I stand up and all of a sudden, I

464
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.279
<v Speaker 2>get those tangles that I get when a spirit comes through,

465
00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:59.599
<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking, this is not really when I want

466
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.839
<v Speaker 2>to be doing this. I kept getting drawn to this

467
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:06.359
<v Speaker 2>one woman and she was I remember, she was beautiful.

468
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 2>She had these big dark eyes and beautiful olive complexion,

469
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 2>and I felt a female energy around her and this

470
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 2>tightening on my neck. So I knew that the female spirit.

471
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:21.400
<v Speaker 2>There was something going on with her breathing, ability to

472
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 2>breathe prior to passing. And I was getting like this

473
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.799
<v Speaker 2>hyperventilating sensation. And so now it's my turn to ask

474
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the questions. And one of the standard questions because this

475
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 2>was a crime of violence, okay, So I asked the juror,

476
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.680
<v Speaker 2>has anyone on the jury, or perhaps one of your

477
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:44.960
<v Speaker 2>family members, ever been the victim of a violent crime? Well,

478
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:48.279
<v Speaker 2>lone and behold this woman starts to shake, the tears

479
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:52.039
<v Speaker 2>start rolling down her cheeks, and she said, a year ago,

480
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.920
<v Speaker 2>my sister was in a foreign country when an escape

481
00:32:56.000 --> 00:33:00.079
<v Speaker 2>mental patient strangled her, dismembered her body, and threw it

482
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:04.640
<v Speaker 2>in a dumpster like she was trash. Oh, boy, Cliff,

483
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>nobody in law school taught me how to deal with

484
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 2>this situation. And I'm standing there. I mean, you could

485
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.160
<v Speaker 2>hear a pin drop in the court. Even the prosecutor

486
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:18.519
<v Speaker 2>was a real pain, couldn't think of anything. And and

487
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I and I heard my client like, dude, what are

488
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.200
<v Speaker 2>you doing like this? And then I'm seeing I talk

489
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:27.599
<v Speaker 2>about you know, do you see I'm seeing her sister

490
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:32.559
<v Speaker 2>coming through. Literally I had a foot in both worlds.

491
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:35.759
<v Speaker 2>And if anyone wants to find out what happened, you're

492
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:39.240
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to get my book, Never Letting Go. That's

493
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:42.279
<v Speaker 2>my first book because I write about that and Never

494
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Letting Go. But but and and and it's it's it's

495
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 2>it's an amazing thing that happened.

496
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

497
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>The thing is that was part of my skill set

498
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.920
<v Speaker 2>as an attorney. And you know, I had a reputation

499
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.799
<v Speaker 2>for this guy's a bit weird and he seems to

500
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:03.079
<v Speaker 2>know things he shouldn't do. And you know, in having

501
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:05.640
<v Speaker 2>opposing counsel, being a little bit afraid of you is

502
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:08.239
<v Speaker 2>not a bad thing when you're Yeah.

503
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean to know that you're carrying along a bunch

504
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>of tools that transcends normal living situations. So that's pretty cool.

505
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:23.559
<v Speaker 1>I want to get into this after life frequency a

506
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>bit and our ancestors, and we know now that the

507
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Egyptians and the Maya were very much focused on after life. Yes,

508
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:40.519
<v Speaker 1>the death, the transition into heaven and whatever you want

509
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to call it. We're going to take a commercial break

510
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.920
<v Speaker 1>to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will

511
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>return shortly with my guests today, Mark Anthony, talking about

512
00:34:54.480 --> 00:35:01.119
<v Speaker 1>his newest book, The After Life Frequency, will be right back.

513
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:42.119
<v Speaker 1>My guest today is author Marc Anthony, who's written a

514
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:46.119
<v Speaker 1>new book called The Afterlife Frequency. He's talking about vibration,

515
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the energy of our soul and what happens when we

516
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:53.800
<v Speaker 1>pass over and the other dimensions, the energies that are

517
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 1>part of those other places that we visit when we

518
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>leave our bodies. Why is this important for us? The

519
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:10.039
<v Speaker 1>after life frequency? And talk about everything being a frequency,

520
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and this is an understanding in this book. So in

521
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:17.119
<v Speaker 1>other words, you're saying to the reader, understand that we

522
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:20.519
<v Speaker 1>are all energy, right, but take it to the next

523
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>level and tell us why the afterlife frequency is so important.

524
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 2>First off? Why is belief in and afterlife important? Saint

525
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Thomas Aquinas, who was a great medieval pologian, said, for

526
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:44.159
<v Speaker 2>those who believe, who believe, no proof is necessary. For

527
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:49.280
<v Speaker 2>those who do not, none may be possible. The twenty

528
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:53.880
<v Speaker 2>first century astrophysicist Neil de Grasse Tyson, one of my heroes, said,

529
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the beauty of science is you don't have to believe

530
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:01.239
<v Speaker 2>it or to be true. For too long, faith in

531
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:03.920
<v Speaker 2>science have been in this corner. We have faith in

532
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.679
<v Speaker 2>in this corner we have science thinginging, you know. And

533
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:11.199
<v Speaker 2>the two were supposedly diametrically opposed. But since the advent

534
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:14.800
<v Speaker 2>of quantum physics, it appears that faith and science in

535
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:19.480
<v Speaker 2>many respects, particularly when it comes to energy and the

536
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:23.960
<v Speaker 2>eternal nature of energy, are on the same side. Actually,

537
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:27.960
<v Speaker 2>they're not diametrically opposed at all. Every great belief system,

538
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 2>from Hinduism five thousand years ago, through the ancient Egyptians,

539
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:40.039
<v Speaker 2>through Zoroastrianism, through Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Native American spirituality

540
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.360
<v Speaker 2>all teach that the soul, the who and what we

541
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>are pre exists. The body comes into the body moves

542
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:49.679
<v Speaker 2>on after the body dies. We know from the second

543
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 2>law of thermodynamics in physics that energy is neither created

544
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 2>nor destroyed, only transferred from one form to another. We

545
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:00.400
<v Speaker 2>know from neuroscience the study of the human brain, and

546
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I spent a lot of my law practice on head

547
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.760
<v Speaker 2>injury cases in studying the human brain. The brain's only

548
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:10.760
<v Speaker 2>two percent of the body's weight, but it uses over

549
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:15.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty percent of its electrical energy. You know. And in science,

550
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.239
<v Speaker 2>science is split into two basic fields. You have the

551
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:24.320
<v Speaker 2>physical sciences, which is physics, engineering, chemistry, and then you

552
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:30.280
<v Speaker 2>have the biological sciences, you know, biology, botany, microbiology, And

553
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>for centuries it's like, well, they're separate, but are they?

554
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Because both fields of science recognize that everything's made of molecules,

555
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:42.039
<v Speaker 2>which in turn are made of atoms, which in turn

556
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:46.880
<v Speaker 2>are composed of smaller particles electrons, protons and neutrons, which

557
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:50.159
<v Speaker 2>in turn are composed of a smaller particle of a

558
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:54.920
<v Speaker 2>quantum which is pure electro magnetic energy, and so on

559
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the quantum level. There is no difference between the physical

560
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:02.840
<v Speaker 2>and the biological sciences. And what that means is everything

561
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 2>in the material universe. You me, the chairs were sitting

562
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.760
<v Speaker 2>on the radio waves the show's being broadcast on the light,

563
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 2>we see the rings of Saturn and beyond are at

564
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:18.000
<v Speaker 2>the subatomic level, all made from the same form of

565
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:21.519
<v Speaker 2>electromagnetic energy. And people say to me, well, that's really

566
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:24.679
<v Speaker 2>hard to wrap my head around you think, I mean,

567
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:29.320
<v Speaker 2>it did take Albert Einstein, Max Planck, Werner, Heisenberg, Louis

568
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:32.920
<v Speaker 2>de Brogley, Niel's Borr to figure this stuff out. Oh

569
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:36.000
<v Speaker 2>and Maleva Einstein. I always like to give her credit

570
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.679
<v Speaker 2>because Einstein's wife worked with him on that, but he

571
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:41.599
<v Speaker 2>didn't credit her in the paper, so anyway, But at

572
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:46.360
<v Speaker 2>any rate, we know that everything on the subatomic level

573
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:50.840
<v Speaker 2>is made of electromagnetic energy, which is neither created nor destroyed,

574
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:55.599
<v Speaker 2>only transferred. So I developed the term the electro magnetic soul,

575
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and I introduced term in the afterlife frequency to explain

576
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:05.039
<v Speaker 2>what we really are in twenty first century terms, which

577
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:09.199
<v Speaker 2>is pure consciousness, meaning a soul or a spirit that

578
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:16.599
<v Speaker 2>is electro magnetic eternal energy. So when we physically die,

579
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:20.519
<v Speaker 2>and I think, the worst thing is to think that

580
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:25.960
<v Speaker 2>someone you loved so much disintegrated into nothingness. That's why

581
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 2>from ancient times until now, people have grieved and mourned.

582
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I've done a lot of work with the mysteries and

583
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:38.360
<v Speaker 2>the secrets of Teuton Common's tomb and what's really fascinating,

584
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:41.679
<v Speaker 2>there's so many fascinating things about it. But when Howard Carter,

585
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:45.599
<v Speaker 2>the initial archaeological team, they started opening up the coffins,

586
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:49.800
<v Speaker 2>there was a bouquet of flowers on each of the coffins.

587
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Inside the three coffins, Somebody loved him, Somebody left flowers there.

588
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Somebody was hurting when he died. And you see this

589
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:02.760
<v Speaker 2>throughout history up to today. And so we now know

590
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:06.880
<v Speaker 2>that energies neither created nor destroyed, only transferred from one

591
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.639
<v Speaker 2>form to another when we die. Think of your EMS,

592
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:13.920
<v Speaker 2>your electromagnetic soul, as a drop of water, and that

593
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 2>when we physically die, you got to realize your brain

594
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.320
<v Speaker 2>did not create the EMS. It only hosts it the

595
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.119
<v Speaker 2>way your computer hard drive posts the programs on it.

596
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:26.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, clip, did your computer create Windows?

597
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:28.079
<v Speaker 1>No? No?

598
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, our computers don't create the data that's on it.

599
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:35.880
<v Speaker 2>There are formatting a host. Guess what that's what Our

600
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 2>brain is. Brain's sophisticated in it governs perception, runs our body,

601
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:44.320
<v Speaker 2>but it didn't create who we Are it merely hosts

602
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:45.480
<v Speaker 2>our ems?

603
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:48.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I want you to explain if you can, because

604
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:52.119
<v Speaker 1>you're very good at breaking this down. Does the soul

605
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>have a frequency that we can measure? Is there a

606
00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:02.280
<v Speaker 1>tool that we can use to measures souls entering the

607
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.840
<v Speaker 1>body and then releasing it, because we're going to talk

608
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:08.199
<v Speaker 1>about near death experience, which is a fundament.

609
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we're getting there. There's a lot of in

610
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:18.239
<v Speaker 2>paranormal investigations, and I do a lot of paranormal investigations.

611
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm part of a number of teams and I'm going

612
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.320
<v Speaker 2>to be on an upcoming episode on Discovery Channel of

613
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:26.079
<v Speaker 2>a new show called Destinations of the Damned, and they

614
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:28.800
<v Speaker 2>brought me in as a medium, and one of the

615
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:31.960
<v Speaker 2>other guests was Gary Galka, who invented the spirit box,

616
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:35.639
<v Speaker 2>which picks up the voices of spirits. I also worked

617
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 2>with doctor Gary Schwartz at the University of Arizona, and

618
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:43.320
<v Speaker 2>doctor Gary Schwartz is working on technology known as the

619
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 2>soul Phone, which we'll do, which does exactly what you're

620
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:50.360
<v Speaker 2>talking about. It picks up on the presence of spirits

621
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:54.880
<v Speaker 2>and they're refining it to where they're getting messages from

622
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:59.400
<v Speaker 2>from spirit. Wow. So the technology is. Yeah, last one's

623
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:03.360
<v Speaker 2>so fascinating because over well, actually about one hundred years ago,

624
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:07.199
<v Speaker 2>the last thing Thomas Edison was working on was what

625
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:12.280
<v Speaker 2>he called the spirit phone, and he said, I believe

626
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I can make a device sensitive enough to detect incarnate

627
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:22.679
<v Speaker 2>discarnate intelligence, meaning spirits. But see he died before he

628
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:26.199
<v Speaker 2>could finish it. And what doctor Schwartz has the benefit

629
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:32.320
<v Speaker 2>of is the last century of sophisticated electronics and quantum physics.

630
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 2>So we are developing the ability to detect the presence

631
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 2>of spirits and near death experience research has really brought

632
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:46.039
<v Speaker 2>a lot to the table in this as well.

633
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:51.519
<v Speaker 1>So the Egyptians had the Book of the Dead. They

634
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:56.480
<v Speaker 1>were so dialed into the afterlife that it seems that

635
00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 1>they probably were using these discarnate souls and people who

636
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:06.800
<v Speaker 1>have been around thousands of years to get data and

637
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.519
<v Speaker 1>to live maybe a more harmonious life. Is it your

638
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:14.280
<v Speaker 1>belief that we should be more in contact with the

639
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:17.320
<v Speaker 1>afterlife souls? Yes?

640
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:20.599
<v Speaker 2>And you know, people say, well, you know, do I

641
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.599
<v Speaker 2>have a relationship with God? You know, with the infinite

642
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:29.480
<v Speaker 2>intelligence we all do. We're constantly connected to and receiving

643
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 2>messages from spirits. The question is our way recognizing the constant?

644
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:38.440
<v Speaker 2>And you know the thing is people, well, they'll they'll

645
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:40.599
<v Speaker 2>scoff at me, but then they'll have a dream where

646
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:42.760
<v Speaker 2>their grandmother comes and talks to them and they think

647
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:49.639
<v Speaker 2>it's real because it was. Because how far do you

648
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 2>want me to go with this?

649
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear it all, buddy.

650
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay. Inside the brain, in the center of the forehead,

651
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.719
<v Speaker 2>if you go about four and a half inches behind

652
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:04.199
<v Speaker 2>the center of the forehead, there's the pineal gland in

653
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:08.480
<v Speaker 2>the brain. Now, the pineal glands the most mysterious, misunderstood,

654
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:13.920
<v Speaker 2>smallest organ in the body, yet the most sophisticated, between

655
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.119
<v Speaker 2>the size of a grain of rice and a small

656
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:19.760
<v Speaker 2>lime of being a Recent discoveries have found calcite and

657
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:25.920
<v Speaker 2>magnetite crystal chips in it or fragments. It governs our brain,

658
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:30.199
<v Speaker 2>weigh frequencies, our circadian rhythms one we're hungry, one we're tired,

659
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:34.719
<v Speaker 2>one we're you know, you know, everything, when we want

660
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:40.079
<v Speaker 2>to sleep, And it also regulates our perception of light,

661
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:45.719
<v Speaker 2>which is really fascinating because light is how people perceive

662
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:50.400
<v Speaker 2>the spiritual energy of God, both visually and in visions

663
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:56.440
<v Speaker 2>that are transmitted by spirits or spiritual entities, and the

664
00:45:56.880 --> 00:46:03.840
<v Speaker 2>pineal gland regulates our five main brain way frequencies Gamma, beta, alpha, theta,

665
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and delta. Gamma. Think you're on Final Jeopardy and you

666
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>got to get that question, or you're taking a calculus exam,

667
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 2>you're just like cranking your brain to full throttle. That's

668
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:15.840
<v Speaker 2>gamma beta activities of daily living. That's the way you

669
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:21.760
<v Speaker 2>know wakeful state Alpha for all of our Southern California listeners,

670
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:23.920
<v Speaker 2>that's the griovy baby state. You know, that's where you

671
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:27.440
<v Speaker 2>know you start to relax, and Theta is when you

672
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:31.360
<v Speaker 2>go into the dream state, very RESTful sleep. Delta very

673
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:34.599
<v Speaker 2>little brainwave activity, but it's extremely important because that's where

674
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.760
<v Speaker 2>you heal and where children grow. So that's like healing

675
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:41.280
<v Speaker 2>cellular regeneration. But let's go back to the alpha theta border,

676
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:45.119
<v Speaker 2>which you're talking about spirits being measured. Each of these

677
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:48.800
<v Speaker 2>brainwave frequencies, we measure them through the amount of hurts

678
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:53.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's at eight hertz, which is the alpha theta border,

679
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:59.239
<v Speaker 2>which is where psychic and mediumistic activity occur. So what happens, Cliff,

680
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.519
<v Speaker 2>is when people go to sleep and they get at

681
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:06.679
<v Speaker 2>that eight hurts. Spirits can see that they align their

682
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:10.440
<v Speaker 2>frequency from a higher vibration. You get a frequency match,

683
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 2>and that's where spirit communication occurs. Conversely, it can happen

684
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:20.079
<v Speaker 2>in the awake state when people feel somebody around them.

685
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.519
<v Speaker 2>But what we don't understand is why people like me

686
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:28.880
<v Speaker 2>can go from beta to alpha theta within seconds involuntarily.

687
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:33.320
<v Speaker 2>And the studies indicate there may be The suggestion is

688
00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:37.360
<v Speaker 2>there may be something somewhat different about our pineal gland.

689
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.320
<v Speaker 2>But you know, we're all good at different things. I mean,

690
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I can swim, but I'm never gonna be a Michael Phelps.

691
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:44.159
<v Speaker 2>I can play guitar, but I'm never gonna be a

692
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:47.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, Keith Urban or a Brad Paisley. You know,

693
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:49.280
<v Speaker 2>I can do math, but I'm never gonna be a

694
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.559
<v Speaker 2>Max tech Mark or a Stephen Hawking. Thing is people

695
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:56.639
<v Speaker 2>are simply good at doing different things right, and this

696
00:47:56.719 --> 00:47:59.559
<v Speaker 2>happens to be, you know, part of my skill set, so.

697
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:05.079
<v Speaker 1>In your feeling intuitively, and maybe it's his research as well.

698
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you think the Egyptians were so dialed into the

699
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:14.599
<v Speaker 1>death side of life after life that they had regular

700
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:21.239
<v Speaker 1>communication and maybe help themselves evolve from these higher levels

701
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:25.440
<v Speaker 1>that weren't in the body anymore. But we're downloading volumes

702
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>of data so that they could exceed their perhaps physical goals.

703
00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:38.400
<v Speaker 2>It would it would perceive, so it would perceive, so

704
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:41.159
<v Speaker 2>it would seem so based on the perception. I've done

705
00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:46.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of work with Egyptology and the Egyptians, particularly

706
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 2>in the aristocrats and the pharaohs tombs, they would have

707
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:56.320
<v Speaker 2>chapels where people would come and bring offerings to the

708
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.119
<v Speaker 2>one who's died. And when you look at you know,

709
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:04.199
<v Speaker 2>and we were given a gift by the discovery of

710
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:06.840
<v Speaker 2>King tuton Common's tomb. And what a lot of people

711
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:10.599
<v Speaker 2>don't understand, Tuton Common's tomb was, in my opinion, the

712
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:14.880
<v Speaker 2>greatest archaeological discovery, certainly in Egypt, and maybe of all time.

713
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.519
<v Speaker 2>There's over fifty five hundred objects found in the tomb,

714
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:21.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, and everyone's the gold and the treasure. But

715
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.239
<v Speaker 2>that was in nineteen twenty two. Seventeen years later, in

716
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:29.760
<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirty nine, farther north along the Nile River, at

717
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:35.079
<v Speaker 2>the excavation of the city of Tannis, three pharaohs tombs,

718
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.519
<v Speaker 2>they were all in the same structure, were found intact.

719
00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Now these Pharaohs were from the latter part of Egypt.

720
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:46.679
<v Speaker 2>Egypt was on the downswing, and they found six hundred

721
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:52.519
<v Speaker 2>objects in there, including solid silver coffins, and silver was

722
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 2>more valued by the Egyptians than gold because they had

723
00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:00.360
<v Speaker 2>to import it. And the reason nobody knows about this,

724
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:02.639
<v Speaker 2>or you know, except for people like me and you

725
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:06.639
<v Speaker 2>that study this is because the story broke in nineteen

726
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:11.760
<v Speaker 2>thirty nine as Hitler was invading Poland, so the world

727
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:16.199
<v Speaker 2>press was focused on that. And what's interesting is the

728
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:19.199
<v Speaker 2>archaeologist he was French, Pierre Monteyne. I want to give

729
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:24.239
<v Speaker 2>him credit. In Raiders of the Lost Art, Indiana Jones's

730
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:29.559
<v Speaker 2>nemesis Renee Bellick, his character George Lucas based him on

731
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Pierre Montet. Wow, okay, And even though he was kind

732
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 2>of the bad or kind of was the bad guy,

733
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:38.719
<v Speaker 2>he still had a pinash and a swapness about him.

734
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.960
<v Speaker 2>But be that as it made. Pierre Montet made one

735
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:45.800
<v Speaker 2>of the greatest archaeological discoveries of all time. And the

736
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Egyptians used to preserve the body because they believed in resurrection,

737
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:55.199
<v Speaker 2>not reincarnation. And then you're like, well, okay, so they

738
00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:57.960
<v Speaker 2>take a body, they remove the brain, throw it away,

739
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:01.360
<v Speaker 2>they take the heart out, Mammafi, those put all the organs,

740
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:04.199
<v Speaker 2>wrap it up, poor ungeons on it, basically glued it

741
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.639
<v Speaker 2>into a coffin and then several other coffins and under

742
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:09.119
<v Speaker 2>granite sarcophagus and put it underground. So how are they

743
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:14.400
<v Speaker 2>supposed to resurrect? It was a spiritual resurrection, not necessarily

744
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:20.320
<v Speaker 2>a physical insurrection, despite all the horror movies of hyperactive

745
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.239
<v Speaker 2>mummies popping out and you know, running around and wreaking

746
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:29.039
<v Speaker 2>havoc on people. But but the Egyptians, and and I

747
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:33.639
<v Speaker 2>actually saw in Peru. I was in the city of

748
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Oya Taya, Totambo, Okay, you know what. Okay, Yes, in

749
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:44.400
<v Speaker 2>the Sacred Valley, and the people that live there speak Keetchua,

750
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.920
<v Speaker 2>which is the language that the Incas spoke, and they're

751
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:52.079
<v Speaker 2>the direct descendants of the Incas and the Incan Empire.

752
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:57.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, just real quick spanned a good chunk of

753
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:01.880
<v Speaker 2>the eastern half of set of South America, and when

754
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:06.800
<v Speaker 2>the Spanish invaded and conquered it, it made Spain wealthy

755
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:10.760
<v Speaker 2>beyond belief. The amount of gold and silver and emeralds

756
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:14.599
<v Speaker 2>and rubies that they sacked and looted from the Inca Empire.

757
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 2>But at Oyataia Titambo, that was one of the very

758
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:23.199
<v Speaker 2>few places where the Inca's actually defeated the Spanish army.

759
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:26.480
<v Speaker 2>So to this day they're like, we defeated the Spanish,

760
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:28.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it's like really cool when you meet them.

761
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:32.639
<v Speaker 2>So I was there as part with a part of

762
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:40.679
<v Speaker 2>an archaeological team and we were studying the Inca Empire

763
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:44.559
<v Speaker 2>and ancient culture, and our guide introduced us to this

764
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:47.599
<v Speaker 2>woman selling corn. In the corn they grow in the

765
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Sacred Valley. The ears are only about six or seven

766
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.960
<v Speaker 2>inches long, and they got these huge kernels on them,

767
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:57.280
<v Speaker 2>and it is the most delicious corn, I mean, unbelievable.

768
00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:59.880
<v Speaker 2>They grill it. It is sweet and smoky. I mean,

769
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:02.760
<v Speaker 2>if you ever I mean, it's almost worth the trip

770
00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:06.639
<v Speaker 2>this south in America to eat this corn. But this woman,

771
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:10.079
<v Speaker 2>they you know, she knew that I was a medium.

772
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:13.599
<v Speaker 2>She picked up on it, and she invited me into

773
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:17.920
<v Speaker 2>her home, and so, you know, we graciously accepted, and

774
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:25.119
<v Speaker 2>so we had our translator and we had this woman

775
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:27.719
<v Speaker 2>and there was like two or three other people with me,

776
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:31.360
<v Speaker 2>and we walked into her home and it was probably

777
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:33.920
<v Speaker 2>the building they lived in was at least four hundred

778
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 2>years old, and it was on you know, the cobblestone

779
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:40.559
<v Speaker 2>streets that the Incas had built with a drainage system

780
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.679
<v Speaker 2>that still works. I wonder how much of our you know,

781
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.679
<v Speaker 2>public drainage system is going to work in four or

782
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:51.559
<v Speaker 2>five hundred years. So we walk in. There's a hearth,

783
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.800
<v Speaker 2>there's a pot on the stove. It's kind of smoking

784
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:56.920
<v Speaker 2>in there. You could see older folks sitting in some

785
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:00.239
<v Speaker 2>chairs with grandparents, little kids playing on the floor. Looked

786
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:04.360
<v Speaker 2>like her husband came walking up. And then we stopped

787
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:08.559
<v Speaker 2>because right above the hearth there are two human skulls,

788
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:13.239
<v Speaker 2>and we're like, oh, and and and they were waiting

789
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:15.679
<v Speaker 2>for our reaction. They knew you're like, oh, the gringos.

790
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's see how the gringoes react. But it wasn't horrifying.

791
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:24.239
<v Speaker 2>And through our translator, she said, these are the skulls

792
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.320
<v Speaker 2>of our ancestors. I think there were some great grandparents.

793
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:30.320
<v Speaker 2>And I said, is this like the day of the

794
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:34.960
<v Speaker 2>dead in Mexico? And she smiled and she goes, every

795
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.079
<v Speaker 2>day is the day of the dead.

796
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:37.679
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

797
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:41.400
<v Speaker 2>And she explained that in their belief system, and even

798
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:45.039
<v Speaker 2>though technically they're halflic you know, because when the Spanish

799
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:48.440
<v Speaker 2>came in, they converted people at the point of a sword.

800
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 2>In this part of Peru, there's a melding of the

801
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:57.760
<v Speaker 2>ancient income beliefs with Christianity. And we see that with

802
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the Day of the Dead celebration in Central America too,

803
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:05.360
<v Speaker 2>because the Day of the Dead was the Catholic Church

804
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:10.559
<v Speaker 2>compromise to celebrate it on All Souls Day, which is

805
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:14.159
<v Speaker 2>forever second. But in Latin America, in the southwest US,

806
00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:16.079
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a whole week of partying, which, hey,

807
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's like a Halloween with a Latin

808
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Latin flavor to it. Although the tradition is at least

809
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:29.280
<v Speaker 2>a thousand years predates Columbus by a thousand years, and

810
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:33.440
<v Speaker 2>so here in Peru they said that the skulls of

811
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:37.239
<v Speaker 2>the ancestors brought forth the spirits who would watch over

812
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:41.239
<v Speaker 2>and protect the family. There's a parallel between what they're

813
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:44.920
<v Speaker 2>doing there and what the Egyptians were doing. Then when

814
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:49.719
<v Speaker 2>you go through, particularly in countries that have been traditionally

815
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Catholic in Europe Spain, Portugal, Italy of course, and even

816
00:55:53.960 --> 00:56:00.760
<v Speaker 2>in areas that Greek Orthodox, the more ancient Christian religions

817
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:05.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the cathedrals will have relics. They may

818
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:08.440
<v Speaker 2>have a skull or a bone from a saint, and

819
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:10.840
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of the same thing that you know, this

820
00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:17.239
<v Speaker 2>has a mystical power that draws a protective energy around them.

821
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:23.280
<v Speaker 2>And now I'm not criticizing, I'm not justifying, I'm not insulting.

822
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:27.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm merely explaining. I've spent Yes, I'm an attorney, but

823
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I've also spent my life studying theology, archaeology, philosophy, history, biology, neurology,

824
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:38.280
<v Speaker 2>and quantum physics. That's why they you know, I'm known

825
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:43.360
<v Speaker 2>as the psychic Explorer because I work in a lot

826
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:48.559
<v Speaker 2>of related different fields, but related fields because I see

827
00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:51.760
<v Speaker 2>how this all ties together. So I know that was

828
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:54.400
<v Speaker 2>the lengthy explanation, but I hope it answers your question.

829
00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's excellent because were my listeners are very much

830
00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:03.119
<v Speaker 1>into ancient history, street and the various civilizations that work

831
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:11.360
<v Speaker 1>with afterlife communication. We're going to take a short commercial

832
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:15.360
<v Speaker 1>break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we

833
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:20.079
<v Speaker 1>will return shortly with my guest today, Mark Anthony, talking

834
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:27.039
<v Speaker 1>about his new book, The Afterlife Frequency. Will rejoin you shortly.

835
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:07.400
<v Speaker 1>My guest today is Mark Anthony who's discussing his new

836
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:12.719
<v Speaker 1>book the Afterlife Frequency, and specifically the electrical magnetic soul.

837
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:17.079
<v Speaker 1>How we are energy from the time we're physical to

838
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the time we leave our body and return to the afterlife.

839
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's bring in the near death experience. How does that

840
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:34.920
<v Speaker 1>work with afterlife frequency. We know that people who have

841
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:41.639
<v Speaker 1>experienced passing through and going to the place we recognize

842
00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:47.119
<v Speaker 1>as heaven will meet relatives, ancestors' guides, whatever, and then

843
00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:51.840
<v Speaker 1>come back right, So, how does the afterlife frequency affect

844
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:53.679
<v Speaker 1>the near death experience?

845
00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:01.280
<v Speaker 2>My electromagnetic soul theory provides a explanation based on sound

846
00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:04.519
<v Speaker 2>scientific principles or near death experiences, as well as the

847
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:09.920
<v Speaker 2>existence of a soul, spirit, communication, deathbed visions, out of

848
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:13.840
<v Speaker 2>body experiences, and even reincarnation, because once again, energy is

849
00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 2>neither created nor destroyed, only transferred from one form to another.

850
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Think of your brain, Okay, your brain's the hosting device.

851
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:24.639
<v Speaker 2>Think of your electromagnetic soul as a drop of water.

852
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:27.920
<v Speaker 2>When we physically die, that drop of water leaves the

853
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:32.360
<v Speaker 2>brain and it plunges into the eternal sea of souls

854
00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:35.840
<v Speaker 2>that I call the collective consciousness. And that way you're

855
00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:38.960
<v Speaker 2>energetically linked with other spirits, linked with other spirits, but

856
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:45.440
<v Speaker 2>sometimes that drop bounces back, and what happens is people

857
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:48.880
<v Speaker 2>will leave their body, and there appears to be in

858
00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:54.159
<v Speaker 2>all the International Association for Near Death Studies, in addition

859
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:57.760
<v Speaker 2>to the Near Death Experience Research Foundation and the Science

860
00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:02.119
<v Speaker 2>and Medical Network out of the UK, those are in ions,

861
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:06.159
<v Speaker 2>the Institute of Noetic Sciences, those are the four of

862
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:12.039
<v Speaker 2>the biggest institutions that study this, and there are others.

863
01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:14.199
<v Speaker 2>So if I've left anybody out, it's you know, only

864
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:18.880
<v Speaker 2>for lack of time. There seem to be phases, because

865
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.639
<v Speaker 2>phases of what happens during a near death experience, but

866
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:27.639
<v Speaker 2>they occur regardless of your religious beliefs. Drugs and alcohol

867
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:30.480
<v Speaker 2>don't appear to have a factor one way or the other.

868
01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:38.320
<v Speaker 2>They can happen to anybody. Age, gender, socioeconomic status don't matter.

869
01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:44.599
<v Speaker 2>So when somebody dies, their ems, their consciousness leaves their body. Generally,

870
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:48.639
<v Speaker 2>there's the they may kind of wander around a hospital

871
01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:51.840
<v Speaker 2>because many times they'll hear what people are saying in

872
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:54.000
<v Speaker 2>another room. I got a lot of good stories on

873
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:58.679
<v Speaker 2>that one, which really cool. Then after the initial separation

874
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:01.320
<v Speaker 2>from the body, there's the going through the tunnel into

875
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:04.039
<v Speaker 2>the light. And then once they go into the light,

876
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:09.519
<v Speaker 2>they will encounter people who are dead, and they only

877
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:11.920
<v Speaker 2>encounter people who are dead. Now, I'm going to come

878
01:01:11.960 --> 01:01:16.039
<v Speaker 2>back on that one, and then if the experience lasts

879
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:21.320
<v Speaker 2>long enough, the next phase is going deeper into the light.

880
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Remember I said, the pineal gland is how we perceive

881
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:30.280
<v Speaker 2>the spiritual energy of God and encountering a pervasive love,

882
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:37.679
<v Speaker 2>a calmness, a serenity, and a beautiful presence and a voice.

883
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:41.199
<v Speaker 2>And this is where it will be. You have to

884
01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:45.559
<v Speaker 2>go back and then people are pulled back into their bodies.

885
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Now the critics say this is the side effect of

886
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:57.320
<v Speaker 2>a dying brain. Okay, if it is, there was. This

887
01:01:57.400 --> 01:02:01.559
<v Speaker 2>is one of several studies conduct by the iconic doctor

888
01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Kenneth Ring, one of the founders of Ians. He did

889
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:11.119
<v Speaker 2>a study on Okay, there was a woman in Japan,

890
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:13.920
<v Speaker 2>young woman, I guess she was in her twenties. She

891
01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:17.880
<v Speaker 2>was in surgery at the hospital and she died on

892
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:22.360
<v Speaker 2>the operating table, and she went through all those phases

893
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:26.119
<v Speaker 2>and encountered her sister in the light and she was

894
01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:29.639
<v Speaker 2>resuscitated and her parents were there, and she said, I

895
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:32.400
<v Speaker 2>saw my sister. But how can that be because she

896
01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:35.800
<v Speaker 2>is not dead. And her parents burst into tears and

897
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:38.400
<v Speaker 2>said she was killed in a car accident last night.

898
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, this.

899
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Woman didn't know that she was in surgery and she

900
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:49.079
<v Speaker 2>encountered her sister's spirit. How is that an effect of

901
01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:52.840
<v Speaker 2>a dying brain? Something just going on inside of your head?

902
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:57.559
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Kenneth Ring did studies on people who were blind

903
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:01.280
<v Speaker 2>since birth and had near death experiences, and they came

904
01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:06.440
<v Speaker 2>back talking of visual accounts of things that they encountered. Now,

905
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:09.920
<v Speaker 2>if they were blind since birth and it's a side

906
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:13.599
<v Speaker 2>effect of a dying brain, wouldn't the brain be drawing

907
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:16.119
<v Speaker 2>on things that are in it instead of creating something

908
01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:21.199
<v Speaker 2>it never knew? Then? One of my favorite Kimberly Clark Sharp,

909
01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:23.840
<v Speaker 2>and I'm very privileged to know her, and I'm looking

910
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:26.519
<v Speaker 2>forward to seeing her at the IANS conference this year.

911
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm speaking at their fiftieth anniversary conference. I've been honored

912
01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:34.000
<v Speaker 2>to be one of the keynote speakers.

913
01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:36.679
<v Speaker 1>Are you're coming up north here to do that? Huh?

914
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:37.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean Francisco.

915
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:39.400
<v Speaker 2>It'll be in Chicago.

916
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's in Chicago this year, okay, yea.

917
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:45.440
<v Speaker 2>And she died on an operating table, and the next

918
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:49.039
<v Speaker 2>thing she knew she was hovering above the table and

919
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:52.920
<v Speaker 2>she was going by as her spirit was rising. She

920
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:58.280
<v Speaker 2>could see the surgeon and the surgical staff working to

921
01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:01.840
<v Speaker 2>try to revive her. As she drifts past the light fixture,

922
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:03.920
<v Speaker 2>she said, boy, this is really dusty. I have to

923
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:06.280
<v Speaker 2>tell the nurse about this. Then she goes, whoa, I'm

924
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:08.679
<v Speaker 2>an out of my body. And then the next thing

925
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:11.000
<v Speaker 2>she knows, I know, I know. I thought that was funny.

926
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:13.559
<v Speaker 2>And then the next thing she said, I was hovering

927
01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:16.719
<v Speaker 2>above the hospital and I saw the rain gutters and

928
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:20.079
<v Speaker 2>at the corner of the building there was this blue sneaker,

929
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:23.039
<v Speaker 2>this blue tennis shoe, stuck in the rain gutter. Right so,

930
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:28.400
<v Speaker 2>she gets resuscitated and she starts talking about there's you know,

931
01:04:28.440 --> 01:04:31.000
<v Speaker 2>she's talking about the blue sneaker, and the surgeon said,

932
01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:33.760
<v Speaker 2>get two people up on the roof right now. He

933
01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:38.320
<v Speaker 2>wanted two people to see exactly where She said it

934
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:42.239
<v Speaker 2>was was a blue sneaker stuck in the rain gutter.

935
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:46.599
<v Speaker 2>And I remember I spoke about that at one Irons conference.

936
01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:48.599
<v Speaker 2>In the next year. She came up to me and

937
01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:51.800
<v Speaker 2>gave me a blue sneaker, which I thought was really

938
01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:54.039
<v Speaker 2>really cool of her to do. But the thing is,

939
01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:58.960
<v Speaker 2>through near death experience research, we're seeing that the consciousness

940
01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:02.280
<v Speaker 2>to who and what you are survives physical death. And

941
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:06.880
<v Speaker 2>not only does it survive, but this electromagnetic quantum field

942
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:08.320
<v Speaker 2>stays coherent.

943
01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but this is fine. I mean, I know I

944
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:13.559
<v Speaker 1>still know him. I haven't talked him in the years,

945
01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:16.360
<v Speaker 1>doctor Raymond Moody. He used to do conferences up here

946
01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:19.679
<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco when we did Whole Life Expo. But

947
01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the thing is, yes, near death experience, we recognize the

948
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:26.400
<v Speaker 1>soul doesn't die, blah blah blah blah blah. But why

949
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:29.320
<v Speaker 1>where are we taking it to the next level? Mark,

950
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:33.559
<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking about what the Egyptians did. We don't

951
01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:39.039
<v Speaker 1>understand how in step they were with the afterlife. And

952
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:43.239
<v Speaker 1>a while ago I was mentioning I believe it helped

953
01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:48.440
<v Speaker 1>them evolve. If they can download the geniuses of thousands

954
01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:52.320
<v Speaker 1>of years in the past reuse the technology. There's a

955
01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:56.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of strangers about the Egyptians. They have advanced technology

956
01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:00.800
<v Speaker 1>embedded in their system. We don't know how that came about, No.

957
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:03.880
<v Speaker 2>We don't. We still don't know how old the sphinx is.

958
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:08.039
<v Speaker 2>We can do a whole presentation, a whole show just

959
01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:12.440
<v Speaker 2>on on the Geezel Plateau. We still don't know how

960
01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:16.079
<v Speaker 2>the pyramids were constructed, and now that science is showing

961
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:20.719
<v Speaker 2>that there are additional chambers within within the Great Pier,

962
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:23.159
<v Speaker 2>I always figured there were. Why would they built this

963
01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:25.480
<v Speaker 2>massive thing just to have one or two rooms in it?

964
01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, exactly.

965
01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Apparently there's chambers all over the place. The question is

966
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:31.679
<v Speaker 2>how do we get to them? And I understand one.

967
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:33.559
<v Speaker 2>They opened it up and Sands started pointing out they

968
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:35.599
<v Speaker 2>close it because it's like, is this ballast for the

969
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:38.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, you got to be careful when you say that. Yeah,

970
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:41.880
<v Speaker 2>but you also have to look at you know, yes,

971
01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:45.679
<v Speaker 2>the Egyptians did amazing things, but look where we live.

972
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Look at the amazing technological advances that we have, and

973
01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:55.119
<v Speaker 2>the people that have come up with these and invented these.

974
01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Where are they getting that knowledge from? So they very

975
01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:02.559
<v Speaker 2>well maybe drawing on the wisdom of the collective consciousness.

976
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Many times when I do readings, sorry about that, I

977
01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:07.719
<v Speaker 2>don't know a lot of my computer makes those noises, but

978
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:12.320
<v Speaker 2>there must be some spirits. But I'll be doing a

979
01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:15.559
<v Speaker 2>reading and a spirit will come forward and start giving

980
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:18.840
<v Speaker 2>information that far exceeded the scope of anything that they

981
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:22.239
<v Speaker 2>knew here in this world. I was doing a reading

982
01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:26.440
<v Speaker 2>for this woman and it was a telephone reading. I

983
01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:29.559
<v Speaker 2>do you know most of my private readings or telephone readings,

984
01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:31.920
<v Speaker 2>which are just as accurate as in person. It all

985
01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:33.639
<v Speaker 2>has to do because they move at the speed of light,

986
01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:36.960
<v Speaker 2>just like the phone call does. And all of a sudden,

987
01:07:37.639 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, you have a son, because your mother's spirit

988
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:43.800
<v Speaker 2>is talking about your son, and she goes, yes, get

989
01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:47.679
<v Speaker 2>his heart checked. There's something there's some type of congenital

990
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:51.480
<v Speaker 2>problem with his heart. This is really important. Well, there's

991
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:53.559
<v Speaker 2>nothing wrong with my son. I said, look, I'm delivering

992
01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:56.760
<v Speaker 2>the message. Well a year later and I'd forgotten about

993
01:07:56.800 --> 01:07:58.920
<v Speaker 2>that because I do a lot of readings. I was

994
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:00.719
<v Speaker 2>doing a phone reading for a gentlemen, and at the

995
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:03.840
<v Speaker 2>end of the reading, he said, you probably don't remember,

996
01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:06.159
<v Speaker 2>but a year ago you did this reading for my

997
01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:09.960
<v Speaker 2>wife and her mother came through and said, get our

998
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:13.440
<v Speaker 2>son's heart checked. There's a congenital defect. I said, now

999
01:08:13.480 --> 01:08:16.039
<v Speaker 2>that you mention it, I do recall that. He said.

1000
01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:19.319
<v Speaker 2>We just returned from the Cleveland Clinics Heart Center where

1001
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:22.720
<v Speaker 2>our son had surgery and the surgeon said, I don't

1002
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:26.079
<v Speaker 2>know how you knew about this, because they went in

1003
01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:29.039
<v Speaker 2>to their doctor and said, please please do a scan,

1004
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:30.800
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, they go, oh, my god,

1005
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:33.159
<v Speaker 2>he's got this heart defect. He said, if it wasn't

1006
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:35.600
<v Speaker 2>for what came up in the reading, our son would

1007
01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:38.880
<v Speaker 2>have died. Yeah, but we were able to get it corrected. Now,

1008
01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know these things, but the spirits do. And

1009
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:48.640
<v Speaker 2>that's why, Like you also have to realize, the Egyptians

1010
01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:54.880
<v Speaker 2>also didn't have the societal hang ups. And yes, they

1011
01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:59.880
<v Speaker 2>lived in a theocracy where religion, you know, was in

1012
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:05.279
<v Speaker 2>government or tied together, but spirituality and the spirits of

1013
01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:10.560
<v Speaker 2>supernatural entities were part of their lives and at the

1014
01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:16.079
<v Speaker 2>risk of being critical of Christianity, and Christus was about

1015
01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:18.640
<v Speaker 2>as cool as they get, not about it as he

1016
01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:22.479
<v Speaker 2>was as cool as it gets. Talk about spiritual people

1017
01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:24.600
<v Speaker 2>say mediums are not a god. Okay, Well, then read

1018
01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:28.239
<v Speaker 2>the Transfiguration where Jesus takes disciples to the top of

1019
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:30.640
<v Speaker 2>a mountain. All of a sudden, he glows and Moses

1020
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:35.279
<v Speaker 2>and Elijah appear on either side of him. Hello, mediumship,

1021
01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:37.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean he got Moses and Elijah to come through.

1022
01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:42.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's pretty pretty impressive on any standard. But the

1023
01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Egyptians didn't have religious fanatics telling them no no, no, no,

1024
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:52.039
<v Speaker 2>no no no about everything. Instead, they were closer to

1025
01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:56.359
<v Speaker 2>nature and the possibilities of it. And one of the lecturers,

1026
01:09:56.439 --> 01:10:00.560
<v Speaker 2>one of my Ancient Mysteries lectures, is entitled Rulers, Royals,

1027
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Psychics and Spirits, Mystics behind the Thrones of Power, and

1028
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:08.159
<v Speaker 2>I take the audience on a journey through time to

1029
01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:12.760
<v Speaker 2>leaders from ancient Egypt all the way up to one

1030
01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:18.359
<v Speaker 2>third of us presidents who have had psychic advisors behind

1031
01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:23.279
<v Speaker 2>the scenes. We've been there the whole time, just we've

1032
01:10:23.319 --> 01:10:25.199
<v Speaker 2>been in the closet, so to speak.

1033
01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:33.960
<v Speaker 1>So what do you see the future as a medium

1034
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and also a person who is defining these frequencies? Do

1035
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:44.399
<v Speaker 1>you see at some point that we return to our

1036
01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:48.920
<v Speaker 1>roots and begin using our ancestors, who are not in

1037
01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:51.640
<v Speaker 1>physical form anymore as a reference.

1038
01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I see that. I've been a member of the Shift

1039
01:10:56.000 --> 01:11:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Network's Ancestral Healing Summit programs many times, and connecting with

1040
01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:08.600
<v Speaker 2>the spirits of ancestors can bring a lot of healing,

1041
01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:12.079
<v Speaker 2>can bring a lot of I mean, I do readings

1042
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:15.640
<v Speaker 2>for people, And in fact, last week I was doing

1043
01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:17.479
<v Speaker 2>a ring for a woman and her mother came through

1044
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:19.000
<v Speaker 2>and she goes, I know, I want to talk to her.

1045
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:22.359
<v Speaker 2>She like obviously had a lot of issues, but her

1046
01:11:22.359 --> 01:11:25.520
<v Speaker 2>mother was trying to apologize, And after the client settled down,

1047
01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:30.920
<v Speaker 2>delivered some very important messages and did this spirit explained

1048
01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:33.000
<v Speaker 2>that when she was a girl, she was you know,

1049
01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:39.880
<v Speaker 2>physically and psychologically abused, you know, wounded people, wound people,

1050
01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:45.920
<v Speaker 2>and so her mother, you know, never had the never

1051
01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:50.439
<v Speaker 2>had any psychological treatment or anything to help her be angry,

1052
01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:54.800
<v Speaker 2>vicious person, and instead she took it out on her daughter,

1053
01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:57.560
<v Speaker 2>who was my client. And it was really a beautiful

1054
01:11:57.600 --> 01:12:01.920
<v Speaker 2>session where there was such resolution coming through. For me,

1055
01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:07.039
<v Speaker 2>the most humbling, the most humbling connections are when I

1056
01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:11.039
<v Speaker 2>do readings for parents who've lost children and how the

1057
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:15.560
<v Speaker 2>child's spirit will come through to help the parent make

1058
01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:19.840
<v Speaker 2>sense of things and help the parent to fine dinner peace.

1059
01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Because you said, from ancient times till now, could there

1060
01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:26.640
<v Speaker 2>be a worse loss than losing a child? There isn't.

1061
01:12:26.760 --> 01:12:31.239
<v Speaker 2>There is no pain greater than that, and spirit communication

1062
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:34.560
<v Speaker 2>is an important therapeutic step in the journey through grief.

1063
01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:37.119
<v Speaker 2>You said you're in the San Francisco area. I'll be

1064
01:12:37.159 --> 01:12:40.880
<v Speaker 2>at the New Living Expo in May in San and Raphael,

1065
01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:42.720
<v Speaker 2>so hopefully we'll get a chance to meet.

1066
01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Well. Hell yeah, I'm actually doing a panel discussion on

1067
01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:47.199
<v Speaker 1>ancient civilizations.

1068
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:49.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Okay, I'll be there. Hey, if you

1069
01:12:49.479 --> 01:12:51.239
<v Speaker 2>need another person on the panel.

1070
01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I might put you on it.

1071
01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Mark count me in. I would love to do that.

1072
01:12:55.439 --> 01:13:00.960
<v Speaker 2>And I've got two online light circles over February fourteenth

1073
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:04.640
<v Speaker 2>and fifteenth online for Valentine's The reason we're doing it

1074
01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:07.399
<v Speaker 2>then is because a broken heart doesn't have to last

1075
01:13:07.479 --> 01:13:11.520
<v Speaker 2>forever in spare communications, very healing. And then on the

1076
01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:15.159
<v Speaker 2>twentieth of February, il be on Great Day Houston, the

1077
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:19.279
<v Speaker 2>CBS morning show KHOU in Houston. Get free tickets and

1078
01:13:19.279 --> 01:13:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll be doing readings for audience members. And then the

1079
01:13:21.800 --> 01:13:25.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty first, twenty second, twenty third, and twenty fourth I'll

1080
01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:27.960
<v Speaker 2>be at Body Mind and Soul of Houston doing public

1081
01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:29.560
<v Speaker 2>mediumship events.

1082
01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:32.359
<v Speaker 1>And doing You're not doing conscious life down where you're

1083
01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:33.199
<v Speaker 1>at in La.

1084
01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm in Florida. I'm in Florida, Florida.

1085
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:38.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were Los Angeles. I'm sorry.

1086
01:13:38.359 --> 01:13:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Well I'm in I'm in La a Lot and then

1087
01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:45.720
<v Speaker 2>in March I'm going to be at the Sedona Ascension

1088
01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Retreat and I'll be giving a talk called Reincarnation. The

1089
01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:53.880
<v Speaker 2>subtitle is DejaVu, Who were You Before You were You?

1090
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:57.880
<v Speaker 2>And I'll also be doing spirit communication events. So I

1091
01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:00.600
<v Speaker 2>want to invite all the listeners to sign up for

1092
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:04.960
<v Speaker 2>my newsletter, which is at afterlifefrequency dot com. And if

1093
01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:07.279
<v Speaker 2>you go to my website you can find out about

1094
01:14:07.439 --> 01:14:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and I do one on one readings. You can sign

1095
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:12.159
<v Speaker 2>up for those. We've got the light Circles coming up,

1096
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:15.960
<v Speaker 2>and if you can get tickets to all the events

1097
01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:21.000
<v Speaker 2>that I'm gonna be at. Also, I write for Best

1098
01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Holistic Life magazine and it's such a beautiful, beautiful publication

1099
01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:31.239
<v Speaker 2>that helps people in so many ways. And every Thursday

1100
01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I have a call in show, The Psychic. In the

1101
01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:36.880
<v Speaker 2>doc my co host is the amazing doctor Pat, doctor

1102
01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Pat Vasilli, and people call in and I do readings

1103
01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:43.279
<v Speaker 2>for them in conjunction. Doctor Pat helps you figure out

1104
01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:47.399
<v Speaker 2>the significance and what it means. And we just won

1105
01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Best Radio Show of the Year second year in a row.

1106
01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

1107
01:14:52.039 --> 01:14:53.880
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so you can find out about all of

1108
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:57.239
<v Speaker 2>that by visiting afterlifefrequency dot com.

1109
01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:01.359
<v Speaker 1>So the books called the Afterlife Frequency. My guest today

1110
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:04.800
<v Speaker 1>has been Mark Anthony. Mark, who should buy this book?

1111
01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Who did you write it for? Talk about that for

1112
01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:08.399
<v Speaker 1>a minute.

1113
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I wrote this book for anyone who wants to take

1114
01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the next step. Spirit communication is not focus pocus or magic.

1115
01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:22.359
<v Speaker 2>It's real. It's based on sound scientific principles. So it's

1116
01:15:22.439 --> 01:15:26.920
<v Speaker 2>based on people who want a logical explanation of the

1117
01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:30.640
<v Speaker 2>existence of an afterlife, of the existence of a soul,

1118
01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:35.159
<v Speaker 2>of the reality of spirit communication, your death experiences and

1119
01:15:35.279 --> 01:15:39.279
<v Speaker 2>out of body experiences reincarnation. But it's also for people

1120
01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:45.680
<v Speaker 2>who are suffering with grief and post traumatic stress disorder. Yeah,

1121
01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:48.319
<v Speaker 2>I do. Because I'm a male medium, I work a

1122
01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:51.800
<v Speaker 2>lot with men. I've had a lot of military people

1123
01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:56.960
<v Speaker 2>come to me for readings, and men need to learn

1124
01:15:56.960 --> 01:16:00.880
<v Speaker 2>how to grieve. You know, we are are Traditionally, we've

1125
01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:05.960
<v Speaker 2>been socialized to suppress our feelings. And my dad, the

1126
01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:13.119
<v Speaker 2>toughest bad asses guy ever known, the Navy seal, taught

1127
01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:16.560
<v Speaker 2>me a real man is never afraid to cry for

1128
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:18.600
<v Speaker 2>someone he loved who dies.

1129
01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Excellent, excellent. Mark fantastic. H much success on this

1130
01:16:26.039 --> 01:16:28.039
<v Speaker 1>of course, So you've already had it out for a while.

1131
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:32.159
<v Speaker 1>And do you have a YouTube channel? People people can

1132
01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:33.680
<v Speaker 1>go and see you. I do.

1133
01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:36.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's also you know, when you go to my website,

1134
01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:40.079
<v Speaker 2>it's all there. You'll see a logo to click on. Yeah,

1135
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:43.399
<v Speaker 2>I've got YouTube. I've got a number of Facebook channel

1136
01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:47.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean pages and groups. Okay, yeah, so it's all

1137
01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:49.640
<v Speaker 2>at afterlifefrequency dot com.

1138
01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's wonderful that you're so active. Some people will

1139
01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:53.680
<v Speaker 1>just write a book and go I'm done, but you're

1140
01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:56.319
<v Speaker 1>like totally plugged into the whole phenomenon.

1141
01:16:57.039 --> 01:17:00.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just you know, I am so honored and

1142
01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:03.760
<v Speaker 2>so humble. Number one, For whatever reason, I've been given

1143
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:08.319
<v Speaker 2>these gifts, and I decided to go into law. I

1144
01:17:08.319 --> 01:17:10.640
<v Speaker 2>was originally going to go into the clergy, but I

1145
01:17:10.640 --> 01:17:12.600
<v Speaker 2>thought there was too many rules in regulations.

1146
01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't see it's.

1147
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:18.600
<v Speaker 2>On a law go figure. But that gave me access

1148
01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:22.479
<v Speaker 2>to so many different scientific fields and study because you

1149
01:17:22.520 --> 01:17:25.079
<v Speaker 2>have to learn all that to prove your case. Plus

1150
01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:27.479
<v Speaker 2>I was on my feet every day talking to groups

1151
01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:32.520
<v Speaker 2>of people, taking complex concepts and learning how to explain them.

1152
01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:35.520
<v Speaker 2>And you know, ways that anyone can relate to it.

1153
01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:41.079
<v Speaker 2>And that's very important. And so I thank God every day,

1154
01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:43.199
<v Speaker 2>and I do believe in God. I don't believe God's

1155
01:17:43.199 --> 01:17:45.399
<v Speaker 2>a neurotic white guy sitting on a throne with a

1156
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:50.119
<v Speaker 2>scepter smiting people. That's a bunch of medieval European imagery.

1157
01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:54.479
<v Speaker 2>But I believe that the energy that flows through all

1158
01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:57.600
<v Speaker 2>of us, it's like what Nikola Tesla said, what one

1159
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:00.960
<v Speaker 2>man or what one person calls God another cause the

1160
01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:05.039
<v Speaker 2>laws of physics. And I believe that on the quantum level,

1161
01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:10.720
<v Speaker 2>not only are we all interconnected, but that interconnectedness and

1162
01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:15.920
<v Speaker 2>intelligence flows through it, which you can consider to be God.

1163
01:18:16.039 --> 01:18:18.880
<v Speaker 2>And people say, well, how do I find God? You

1164
01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:23.560
<v Speaker 2>already have? Yeah, all connected? You all you have that connection.

1165
01:18:24.239 --> 01:18:27.560
<v Speaker 2>And I don't tell people how to believe. I mean,

1166
01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:29.640
<v Speaker 2>you know when I hear people are my religions the

1167
01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:33.239
<v Speaker 2>one and only way, And it's like, yeah, so what

1168
01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:39.000
<v Speaker 2>you're telling me is that the infinite intelligence that spans

1169
01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:46.720
<v Speaker 2>distances we can't even fathom, limited to your particular viewpoint.

1170
01:18:47.159 --> 01:18:51.279
<v Speaker 2>But that's how you want to believe. That's fine, But remember,

1171
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:59.359
<v Speaker 2>true spirituality is about peace, love, compassion, healing and understanding

1172
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:12.119
<v Speaker 2>ego edging God out. When people take religion to justify anger, bigotry, hatred,

1173
01:19:12.199 --> 01:19:16.840
<v Speaker 2>and violence, all they're doing is hijacking a religion or

1174
01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:21.840
<v Speaker 2>a moral justification for their ego driven agenda. And that's

1175
01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:22.960
<v Speaker 2>how you tell the difference.

1176
01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Fantastic. Mark's been fun. Let's do it again sometime.

1177
01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:29.039
<v Speaker 2>I look forward to it, Cliff.

1178
01:19:34.079 --> 01:19:36.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, one thing to think about, and you know,

1179
01:19:36.720 --> 01:19:39.880
<v Speaker 1>energy is a topic on a number of our programs here,

1180
01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:43.119
<v Speaker 1>not only in Destiny, but Earth Ancients is if this

1181
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:47.640
<v Speaker 1>is important, the frequency of our soul what Mark called

1182
01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the electromagnetic frequency of the soul. Isn't it fascinating that

1183
01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:56.279
<v Speaker 1>our ancestors were very much fixated on energy, megalithic energy,

1184
01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the energy that is on tollric energy fields that are

1185
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:06.079
<v Speaker 1>underneath temples, pyramids and other buildings. They really had a

1186
01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:08.840
<v Speaker 1>very sophisticated earth science. And this is what Chris Dunn

1187
01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:14.119
<v Speaker 1>tells us. He believes they were. We're earth scientists. And

1188
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:17.880
<v Speaker 1>this is really important because this means that we need

1189
01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:22.239
<v Speaker 1>to reevaluate our building techniques. We need to reevaluate our

1190
01:20:22.279 --> 01:20:27.039
<v Speaker 1>healthcare system. Why is the richest country in the world,

1191
01:20:27.199 --> 01:20:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the United States, so unhealthy I think the other day

1192
01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I was reading of the top ten industrial nations, the

1193
01:20:34.840 --> 01:20:39.479
<v Speaker 1>United States is number ten. That's embarrassing. It's because we're

1194
01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:42.760
<v Speaker 1>a marketing country. We're in the marketing and everything. You

1195
01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:47.199
<v Speaker 1>don't go to the doctor and without him selling you something, pills,

1196
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:54.399
<v Speaker 1>unnecessary surgery procedures. It's a business. And that's the other

1197
01:20:54.439 --> 01:20:59.439
<v Speaker 1>thing that I really abhor is the fact that modern

1198
01:20:59.479 --> 01:21:04.119
<v Speaker 1>medicine is is more focused on making money than healing people.

1199
01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that's really a big problem, especially with the

1200
01:21:06.359 --> 01:21:09.640
<v Speaker 1>big HMOs. I'm here in northern California with Kaiser, and

1201
01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.520
<v Speaker 1>they go out of their way to give you stuff

1202
01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:16.199
<v Speaker 1>you don't need. It's pretty funny. But anyhow, this is

1203
01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:23.840
<v Speaker 1>a very important point is that our ancestors understood, cultivated, magnified,

1204
01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and bathed themselves and earth energy, and they were constantly

1205
01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:32.920
<v Speaker 1>working to heal themselves, to be in balance, to be

1206
01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:37.159
<v Speaker 1>in harmony. This is something we need to really really evaluate.

1207
01:21:37.279 --> 01:21:41.720
<v Speaker 1>So I think what's happening is in the future we'll

1208
01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:45.960
<v Speaker 1>be building more in tune with nature, not out of

1209
01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:49.239
<v Speaker 1>tune and building these monstrosities. Now. One of the things

1210
01:21:49.239 --> 01:21:52.159
<v Speaker 1>that I've learned, I learned it from my Mayan mentor

1211
01:21:52.199 --> 01:21:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Whombot's Men, as well as a number of people in Egypt,

1212
01:21:56.279 --> 01:22:00.119
<v Speaker 1>Muhammed Amberheim and others who are in Egypt. Just a

1213
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:03.159
<v Speaker 1>lot of these buildings are offline. A lot of the

1214
01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:06.279
<v Speaker 1>temples that we go to once we're sitting on Tulleric

1215
01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:11.800
<v Speaker 1>energy feels now through earthquakes, through age, through changing of

1216
01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:18.920
<v Speaker 1>the geological platforms underground aquifers. The energy is not necessarily

1217
01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:24.640
<v Speaker 1>flowing as strongly or as directly as it was when

1218
01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:28.840
<v Speaker 1>they built these temples. But when you go to Dendera

1219
01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and you bring a compass, you still can get pretty

1220
01:22:34.279 --> 01:22:38.359
<v Speaker 1>good readings that tell you stand here for a little bit,

1221
01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:42.840
<v Speaker 1>get a sense of the energy. So lots of considerations

1222
01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:46.279
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to energy. So the Afterlife Frequency really

1223
01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:49.159
<v Speaker 1>an interesting book. By the way, Mark is going to

1224
01:22:49.159 --> 01:22:53.199
<v Speaker 1>be part of the New Living Expo May ninth, tenth

1225
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and level. He'll be speaking on the tenth Saturday, the

1226
01:22:56.880 --> 01:23:01.800
<v Speaker 1>tenth of May, and he'll be joining my panel Ancient

1227
01:23:02.359 --> 01:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Unknown Ancient Civilizations Sunday, May eleventh. It's at eleven am

1228
01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:13.399
<v Speaker 1>in the panel room. It'll be Mark, Ben van Kirkwick,

1229
01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Mike Ricksecker and Brad Olsen. He'll be there too, so

1230
01:23:18.159 --> 01:23:21.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll have a good panel discussion. And if you want

1231
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>more information on the new Living expots held in Santa

1232
01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Fel just north of San Francisco and Marin County. And

1233
01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to get more information new Livingexpo dot com. You'll see

1234
01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:33.680
<v Speaker 1>all the details. They got a good little show. I

1235
01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:35.680
<v Speaker 1>have nothing to do with it in terms of programming,

1236
01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:39.159
<v Speaker 1>but I was asked to put together a panel on

1237
01:23:39.199 --> 01:23:42.680
<v Speaker 1>ancient civilizations because I kind of know something about it.

1238
01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:46.239
<v Speaker 1>So come on and check it out. Hey, if you're

1239
01:23:46.359 --> 01:23:50.640
<v Speaker 1>joining Earth Ancients Destiny and Earth Ancients Special Edition in

1240
01:23:50.640 --> 01:23:54.039
<v Speaker 1>the Archives, please consider becoming a subscriber for as little

1241
01:23:54.079 --> 01:23:57.399
<v Speaker 1>as five dollars a month. You can support the work

1242
01:23:57.399 --> 01:24:00.560
<v Speaker 1>we do here on the program, and we have a expenses.

1243
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:02.600
<v Speaker 1>We have a lot of bills and it is not

1244
01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:06.199
<v Speaker 1>getting cheap to produce these podcasts. So if you really

1245
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>enjoy them, if you're getting something out of them, consider five, ten, fifteen,

1246
01:24:11.279 --> 01:24:15.079
<v Speaker 1>even twenty dollars a month as a subscription. To get

1247
01:24:15.079 --> 01:24:20.079
<v Speaker 1>more information. To become a subscriber, go to Patreon dot com,

1248
01:24:20.119 --> 01:24:23.479
<v Speaker 1>forward slash Earth Ancients and subscribe. We got quite a

1249
01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>few thank you gifts for you. We're up to we're

1250
01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:30.119
<v Speaker 1>up to thirty two ebooks, including the new one by

1251
01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Annie Williams on the Megaliths of southern France, Northern Spain,

1252
01:24:37.319 --> 01:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the Pyrenees mountain range and all these fabulous ruins. You

1253
01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>can download over thirty of these books as a thank

1254
01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you gift, and we really appreciate We really appreciate it. Remember,

1255
01:24:49.720 --> 01:24:53.119
<v Speaker 1>it does cost money to put these podcasts together, and

1256
01:24:53.399 --> 01:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>it is time consuming, and your subscription really helps us out.

1257
01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>So to become a subscriber, go to Patreon dot com

1258
01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Forward slash Earth Ancients. All right, that's it for this program.

1259
01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to think my guest today, Mark Anthony, coming

1260
01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:16.079
<v Speaker 1>to us from Florida, the United States of America. As

1261
01:25:16.119 --> 01:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>always a team of guil Tour, Mark Foster and everyone

1262
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>who makes this thing happen. You guys are rock, all right,

1263
01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:26.439
<v Speaker 1>take care of you well and we will talk to

1264
01:25:26.479 --> 01:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>you next time I sing. You can a
