Speaker 1: Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm in from the rain and it is pounding the
Speaker 1: building I'm in right now. I'm looking out my studio
Speaker 1: window and it is pushing against the glass. Strong winds,
Speaker 1: strong rain. We've got rain all week. I don't get
Speaker 1: unhappy or a bit about the amount of rain we
Speaker 1: have because we always can use it. Southern California. I'm
Speaker 1: in northern California. I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area.
Speaker 1: But people in La they are not getting any rain.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, come on, people, you know, get some rain.
Speaker 1: They could really use me. And I have friends down there.
Speaker 1: So but it's still cold, it's still uncomfortable and I
Speaker 1: and you know, I can't get out to hike. I'm
Speaker 1: going to force the issue with my girlfriend. On either
Speaker 1: Friday afternoon or Saturday. We're going to try to get
Speaker 1: up to a place called Mount Tamapaias in Marin County,
Speaker 1: and it's the highest peak in the Bay area. And
Speaker 1: there's some interesting magnetic rock up there by the way
Speaker 1: that the Native people would sit on and get energy.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna see if I can find that. But no,
Speaker 1: you go up there to walk around the observatory, and
Speaker 1: you also have a great view of the bay if
Speaker 1: it's clear, so we need to get it to be clear.
Speaker 1: So but you know, the weather's still not good, and
Speaker 1: it's not good at a lot of places. So but
Speaker 1: we're still in the winter. We're still in the winter.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I was mentioning on Earth ancients
Speaker 1: last week that this cold weather is making me itch
Speaker 1: for Turkey, and it's true. Of course, we went in
Speaker 1: a season when it was a little warmer than normal,
Speaker 1: like one o two to one oh four. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna go in June, and if you want to join us,
Speaker 1: we'll be going June twenty second through July the second,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it a little bit later. But
Speaker 1: this is like another one of these once in a
Speaker 1: lifetime tours because we're gonna go to Carahan Tippee, which
Speaker 1: is somewhat off limits. You can go to parts of it,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna see we're gonna have access to the
Speaker 1: to the excavation site and they keep uncovering these unusual
Speaker 1: sculptures and it's fascinating to look at these things because
Speaker 1: we don't know how old they are no Karahan tippies
Speaker 1: I think eleven thousand years old, whereas go Beckley Teppees
Speaker 1: twelve five hundred. And there's another mountain region that's further north.
Speaker 1: It's apparently four they've dated it to fourteen thousand years.
Speaker 1: What are they going to do if they land upon
Speaker 1: one of these tepees and it's twenty thousand years old?
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people don't realize that when
Speaker 1: you do car that's our number one way of dating
Speaker 1: is carbon dating. You look at the carbon and you see,
Speaker 1: you know when it first appeared, it goes I think
Speaker 1: at Max's at fifty thousand years. Can you imagine a
Speaker 1: sophisticated civilization carbon dated at twenty thousand years? I mean,
Speaker 1: we're almost there, We're at fourteen thousand right now. And
Speaker 1: what we show in ancient cultures, most notably the Egyptian
Speaker 1: in the Maya, these earlier people were the most sophisticated.
Speaker 1: That leads credence to our theory that there was a
Speaker 1: sophisticated ancient society prior to this worldwide deluge. Well that's water,
Speaker 1: but worldwide asteroid impact catastrophic event that led to a
Speaker 1: global flood, global tsunami, and that's what's so fun about
Speaker 1: this whole Ancient Earth, ancient civilization thinking, is that we're
Speaker 1: missing a huge part of our history because it was
Speaker 1: blotted out over a period of time. Now, Randall Carlson
Speaker 1: talks about this impact happening in a series of days, weeks, months,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't just one big impact. It was a
Speaker 1: continual impact, but still had the same results. Eighty percent
Speaker 1: of the land animals, sabertooth tigers, mastodons, sloths, four legged
Speaker 1: creatures were wiped out eighty percent. And what would that
Speaker 1: lead us to understand the human population? How would the
Speaker 1: human population survived? Well, they're not as exposed as the animals,
Speaker 1: but I believe the Maya and especially Mexico Ucatan, Mexico,
Speaker 1: had established the great cities by then, and if they
Speaker 1: were wiped out, what would we have left. We would
Speaker 1: have their stone buildings, their stone temples, their stone pyramids,
Speaker 1: their stone causeways. And you've got to remember the Maya
Speaker 1: were genius engineers. They built causeways, hydraulic systems, and what
Speaker 1: are known as sock bees, the white roads that run
Speaker 1: for hundreds, if not thousands of miles through Guatemala, hundreds
Speaker 1: of miles in Yucatan. They're slowly uncovering all of this,
Speaker 1: and we've had engineers on the program. The sock bees
Speaker 1: are works of genius because they are multi levels of dirt, cement, mortar,
Speaker 1: and then more cement, and they're like built to last generations.
Speaker 1: Water runs off of them, they're not They can stand
Speaker 1: all types of weather systems, all kinds of abuse, and
Speaker 1: they keep on knocking, they keep on functioning. So these
Speaker 1: advanced societies, I believe, and this is the theory of
Speaker 1: a lot of other people that are on the show,
Speaker 1: is that the earliest people were much more sophisticated than
Speaker 1: we are now. Now. If you remember when we had
Speaker 1: Chris Dunn on the program, he was emphatic that the
Speaker 1: Egyptians that built the Great Pyramids were earth based scientists.
Speaker 1: They had studied the telluric emissions from the Earth. These
Speaker 1: are the bubbling energy flows that come and go, and
Speaker 1: they built a whole science, physics, and technology around it.
Speaker 1: I now believe the Maya were the same way. If
Speaker 1: you go to one of the great Mayan cities, chichinisa
Speaker 1: Ushmi t call El Miador, you name it. There's really
Speaker 1: only thirty that we've found so far and excavated with
Speaker 1: any level of comprehension, you'll see that there is a
Speaker 1: special science around the building of these pyramids, and we'll
Speaker 1: talk more about that later. So the point being is
Speaker 1: that there's more to uncover, there's more to see. We've
Speaker 1: had a number of people on the program talking about
Speaker 1: the energies, doctor Lydia Di Leong. We've had Hugh Newman,
Speaker 1: Andrew Collins and Annie Williams, and now we had Howard
Speaker 1: Crowhurst telling us about the megalists sitting on these sacred geometry.
Speaker 1: You know, the three four five angle appears in all
Speaker 1: the negalis that he discovered, not only in Karnac, France,
Speaker 1: but around the world. So something's going on. It's all
Speaker 1: coming to light and I love it and I hope
Speaker 1: you do too, So keep listening. Hey, today's program is
Speaker 1: about frequency, the afterlife frequency, and we are focusing on
Speaker 1: the energy around humans, which we know as chakra systems,
Speaker 1: the meridians. We don't talk enough about the meridians. The
Speaker 1: Chinese discovered the body's meridians, which is a super highway
Speaker 1: of energy that runs through the body like the blood system,
Speaker 1: blood flow, blood arteries. They discovered it over seven thousand
Speaker 1: years ago, likely much longer and older than that, but
Speaker 1: it is part of our frequency, part of the energy
Speaker 1: that the body produces that captures the body's an engine
Speaker 1: and ebbs and flows. And of course, if you talk
Speaker 1: to an allopath, our medical doctors of today, they don't
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. But if you talk to
Speaker 1: a Chinese medical doctor, if you talk to a yoga instructor,
Speaker 1: if you talk to anyone who's talking about teaching, meditation
Speaker 1: and herbalists, a lot of these people understand that the
Speaker 1: energy and the system that the body creates is vital
Speaker 1: to wellness. So when you take a medicine, you basically
Speaker 1: stop that flow and you cause more problems. But today's
Speaker 1: program is important to learn about because my guest is
Speaker 1: presenting proof that we are physically here, that we have
Speaker 1: energy systems, but there is also a soul energy. There's
Speaker 1: an energy that our interior soul frequency is important as well.
Speaker 1: And when we pass over to the afterlife or heaven,
Speaker 1: our soul is an energy and that energy leaves and
Speaker 1: goes with us to the other side. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: learn the details of that in this new in today's podcast.
Speaker 1: Now we want to know this because we want to
Speaker 1: be aware of how to live the best physical life
Speaker 1: that we can, and that means taking care of the machine.
Speaker 1: What's the machine, the body and the brain, and also
Speaker 1: it connects to the spirit, to the higher levels. But
Speaker 1: if we're not doing any walking, if we're sitting around
Speaker 1: watching TV from morning in to night for not exercising,
Speaker 1: that's not taking care of the body. If we're eating sugars,
Speaker 1: refined foods, too much dairy, too much meat, that's not
Speaker 1: taking care of the engine. You need to be aware
Speaker 1: of the engine, turn the brain back on and have
Speaker 1: it connect to the body. We don't need to be sick.
Speaker 1: We want to live as as long as we can
Speaker 1: as well as we can in a healthy state. So
Speaker 1: but yeah, so you guys know about that, and this
Speaker 1: is why biohacking is so important right now, you know.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I think I mentioned I'm on
Speaker 1: semi glue type, which is the main compound in ozimpic.
Speaker 1: I've lost weight. I've lost like two and a half
Speaker 1: belt sizes, about one and a half pant sizes. And
Speaker 1: it's funny. What's really funny is I went in for
Speaker 1: my checkup on the doctor's like, Okay, what meds are
Speaker 1: you on? And she was looking at the chart. I'm
Speaker 1: off all meds because semi glue type which is a peptide,
Speaker 1: it's a pep tide actually helps the heart and the
Speaker 1: cardio cardiovascular system. And a few hospitals are coming align
Speaker 1: with this step, but most of them don't have a clue.
Speaker 1: Don't have a clue what that's all about. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of important to take your health into your own
Speaker 1: hands and do the best you can. So today's program
Speaker 1: is the Afterlife Frequency, the scientific proof of spiritual contact
Speaker 1: and how that awareness will change your life. And my
Speaker 1: guest today is Mark Anthony. If you haven't been a Turkey,
Speaker 1: it is a fabulous country to visit. Not only is
Speaker 1: Istanbul a cosmopolitan, very modern city, but the people are wonderful,
Speaker 1: the food, the beverages are fantastic and of course if
Speaker 1: you're with Earth ancients, we're going to see the ancient sites.
Speaker 1: Our tour this year is June twenty second to July second,
Speaker 1: and we'll be visiting go Beckley Tepee, the underground city
Speaker 1: of darren Kuru, the Cappadocia, the hill cities, Carahan Tippye,
Speaker 1: will visit karahand Tippye and have private visits with the
Speaker 1: archaeological team that is continuing to excavate that amazing city
Speaker 1: and discovering beautiful carvings from deep within Earth's antiquity. If
Speaker 1: you'd like to join us, go to earth agents dot
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Speaker 1: full itinerary for you to view and also more details
Speaker 1: available for registration. Turkey is not to be missed. We
Speaker 1: do it once a year. We take small groups of
Speaker 1: people so we all can see the museums, we can
Speaker 1: stay on one bus and it's a wonderful country to tour.
Speaker 1: For more information go to Earth Ancients dot com forward
Speaker 1: slash tours and see all the details, or email me
Speaker 1: at earth Ancients the number four of the letter you
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com for any specifics you might need.
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Speaker 1: com forward slash Tours. Science has identified the universe as
Speaker 1: an energy based system. We did. We're just lear you
Speaker 1: know all about this quantum theory string theory. We've had
Speaker 1: Micheo Kaku on the show. In the past, we've had
Speaker 1: others talking about this and my guest today and actually
Speaker 1: taking a part of that, and we've had people on
Speaker 1: the program talking about our ancestors, the Egyptians of the Maya,
Speaker 1: who understood the afterlife. My guest today is Mark Anthony.
Speaker 1: He is a lawyer. He is a psychic lawyer, a
Speaker 1: he's known as the psychic Lawyer, which is interesting. He's
Speaker 1: a multi multi generational psychic and he's also quite a
Speaker 1: prolific writer. He is book that we're talking about today
Speaker 1: is called The Afterlife Frequency, The Scientific Proof of spiritual
Speaker 1: Contact and how that awareness will change your life. But
Speaker 1: he also has written other books, Never let Letting Go
Speaker 1: and Evidence of Eternity, which deals with the afterlife. And
Speaker 1: we're going to learn today just how he has tapped
Speaker 1: into this frequency and has a message for us. So, Hey, Mark,
Speaker 1: welcome to Destiny. Great to see you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Cliff. It is really great to be here.
Speaker 1: It must have been interesting to be raised in a
Speaker 1: family of mediums or psychics. Talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: Were you aware of your gifts as a child and
Speaker 1: hearing voices and seeing spirits and the ghosts in the house.
Speaker 1: Talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my family was kind of like the Adams family
Speaker 2: in the neighborhood, if you will. But seriously, both my
Speaker 2: parents had these abilities. My mother was a commercial artist.
Speaker 2: My dad was an aerospace engineer, but before that he
Speaker 2: was an av seal, And so this runs back four
Speaker 2: generations on both sides of the family. I'm the first
Speaker 2: one to go really public with it. I mean, everybody
Speaker 2: knew there was something about our family, and when I
Speaker 2: was about three and a half years old, I started
Speaker 2: interacting with my invisible friend. It's not unusual for sorry
Speaker 2: about that, we're toddler to have invisible friends. But when
Speaker 2: mommy and Daddy can see who I was talking to,
Speaker 2: I remember mom was like, oh my gosh, he's got it,
Speaker 2: and Dad was like, oh, dear god, he's got it.
Speaker 1: So they were were they communicating openly with the other
Speaker 1: realms in your presence or were they just encouraging you
Speaker 1: as a as their son to develop your gifts.
Speaker 2: That's a you know, that's a really good question and
Speaker 2: nobody's ever asked it like that, So so thank you, Cliff.
Speaker 2: This was something. It's it's a genetically inherited trait in
Speaker 2: my family, and it's what's known as a recessive trait.
Speaker 2: It's like being left handed. You know, most people in
Speaker 2: the world are right handed, but whether or not you're
Speaker 2: right handed or left handed, that's genetics, okay. And it's
Speaker 2: the same thing with other types of abilities, including this.
Speaker 2: But when you have two parents with the same recessive trait,
Speaker 2: it increases the likelihood when of their kids is going
Speaker 2: to have that trait. And I have an older brother
Speaker 2: and older sister, and they're not mediums, but they are precognitive.
Speaker 2: In other words, they anticipate future events and they get
Speaker 2: feelings about things. But I seem to get the whole package.
Speaker 2: And my mom would talk about her abilities openly. I mean,
Speaker 2: she was careful about who she would talk about them too,
Speaker 2: but my dad kept it kind of under wraps. And
Speaker 2: so when I was three and a half, that's when
Speaker 2: I started seeing spirits. When I was four, I literally died,
Speaker 2: I flatlined and was resuscitated. I had a near death experience.
Speaker 2: And then by the time I was five, I had
Speaker 2: started first grade. And my dad's family, they were very
Speaker 2: conservative Pennsylvania Baptists. My mother's family, they were Italian Catholics
Speaker 2: and the Italians looked at this as a gift from God,
Speaker 2: the gift of second to sight. You know, my grandfather
Speaker 2: was from Italy, and in fact, my maternal great grandmother, Giovanna,
Speaker 2: was known in the Italian community of Italy in New
Speaker 2: York and North New Jersey as the woman who knows things,
Speaker 2: and fact, Catholic church officials would go and meet with
Speaker 2: her all the way up to cardinals. Wow, and what's
Speaker 2: really cool clip is. Back in twenty sixteen, PBS did
Speaker 2: a special called The Italian Americans. It was a two
Speaker 2: night special and they actually did an entire segment on
Speaker 2: my maternal great grandmother Giovanna, and they actually referenced her
Speaker 2: psychic abilities. And it was really cool seeing that. It's
Speaker 2: like every commercial. One of my cousins is college. Did
Speaker 2: you see that? You know, we're all tuned in. But
Speaker 2: what my dad told me when I was starting school,
Speaker 2: he sat me down and he said, Mark, do not
Speaker 2: talk about these things to anyone except your mother or me,
Speaker 2: because people who see things others don't will get taken away.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, let me tell you. That really scared me.
Speaker 2: And he could see I was scared, and I was
Speaker 2: like shaking, and I remember he held me. Your dad
Speaker 2: was a tough guy, but he was a He was
Speaker 2: an affectionate dad. He was a great father. Excuse me,
Speaker 2: and he I understood years later why he was so worried.
Speaker 2: And if I can digress just a bit, my dad
Speaker 2: had four siblings, three sisters and a brother. One of
Speaker 2: his sisters was also a medium like he was, as
Speaker 2: was their mother Isbell and the eternal grandmother Grace. And
Speaker 2: up in this little town in Pennsylvania that they lived,
Speaker 2: you know, everybody knew that. You know, you know, people
Speaker 2: would women would come over on Thursday afternoons under the
Speaker 2: uh ast of playing canasta, but they're actually getting readings
Speaker 2: from my grandmother and my great grandmother. But my father sister, Marjorie,
Speaker 2: she married this religious zealot, and I'm being kind there.
Speaker 2: I'd prefer to call him a religious fanatic, and he
Speaker 2: was afraid of her abilities. He felt that they were,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, somehow evil or demonic. And the
Speaker 2: problem with people that yank verses out of the Bible
Speaker 2: is that there are some passages that say, you know,
Speaker 2: don't be a medium. But that would be in Deuteronomy eighteen,
Speaker 2: verses ten through twenty two. But later in the passage
Speaker 2: it says, if basically what the prophet, which is Bible
Speaker 2: speak for a medium says is true, then it's sanctioned
Speaker 2: by God. Okay. So in the very same passage that
Speaker 2: people want to condemn us, it also sanctions us. And
Speaker 2: also in the Testament. One of my favorite books is
Speaker 2: a First Book of Corinthians. Chapters twelve twelve, Verses four
Speaker 2: through twelve lists the gifts that God bestows on all
Speaker 2: of us, two of which prophecy, which is foreseeing the future.
Speaker 2: The other is discernment of spirits, which is what we do. Okay.
Speaker 2: So anyway, Marjorie's married to this religious extremist and one
Speaker 2: day he's getting ready to go to work. He was
Speaker 2: a machinist and he worked at a steel plant in Harrison, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: and she didn't want him going to work that day.
Speaker 2: She had a terrible feeling and she'd get it in
Speaker 2: her stomach, and she begged him not to go. And
Speaker 2: they got into a big argument and said, fine, fine,
Speaker 2: you and that voodoo stuff. Years Well, that day cliff
Speaker 2: a crane was lifting thousands of pounds of steel beams
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the cable snapped and they fell,
Speaker 2: and it crushed the machine shop that he worked in
Speaker 2: and killed everybody in it. Oh boy, yeah, had he
Speaker 2: been at work, he would been killed. Well. Instead of
Speaker 2: being grateful, what he did is he conspired with an
Speaker 2: unscrupulous psychiatrist. He had Marjorie diagnosed to schizophrenic. They literally
Speaker 2: sent an ambulance to their house. Guys in white coats forcibly,
Speaker 2: removed her from her home, put her in a stray jacket.
Speaker 2: You know, this is like twenty years before I was born.
Speaker 2: This is like in the nineteen fifties. Took her to
Speaker 2: an insane asylum where she was subjected to an electroshock
Speaker 2: therapy for over six months, and it damaged her brain
Speaker 2: so much Marjorie never again talked about spirit seeing the future.
Speaker 2: She used to be like a bubbly, pleasant woman, and
Speaker 2: after that she was just really withdrawn. So I didn't
Speaker 2: know this obviously when I was five years old. I
Speaker 2: found this out as I became a teenager, because I'd
Speaker 2: start hearing people talk about Aunt Marjorie, and then I
Speaker 2: heard that she had died. I never met her in
Speaker 2: this world, So now I understand why my father was
Speaker 2: so worried because historically mediums have been vilified in some
Speaker 2: parts of the world. In Middle Eastern countries like Saudi
Speaker 2: Arabia and Iran, certainly Afghanistan, people with these abilities are
Speaker 2: put to death. Yeah, and so there are still elements
Speaker 2: that are very extreme in the West, even though there's
Speaker 2: people that scoff at it. It is being studied, and
Speaker 2: I've been part of these studies. I've been studied in
Speaker 2: part of studies on mediums, like how are we getting
Speaker 2: the information? Yeah, part of afterlife science. So it has
Speaker 2: been a very interesting life and anyway, so that is yes,
Speaker 2: my parents were like, it's okay to be a medium,
Speaker 2: but just talk about it to us. And now I
Speaker 2: understand because in their era, Yeah, up in an insane
Speaker 2: as island, talk.
Speaker 1: About what you see, Mark would I mean, it's so
Speaker 1: natural for you. I would imagine that if there is
Speaker 1: a ghost or a recently departed soul who you are
Speaker 1: able to see or maybe they and we'll talk about this.
Speaker 1: They recognize that you can perceive them, so they're trying
Speaker 1: to communicate with us. What as a child, as a
Speaker 1: younger person, it's great to have parents and relatives who
Speaker 1: are like don't worry. This is who you are. You
Speaker 1: can accept this, don't be afraid. This is what you're experiencing.
Speaker 1: But talk about beginning to receive this information through these souls.
Speaker 2: What happens when I open up my brain to frequency?
Speaker 2: Because people say, well, do they come to you all
Speaker 2: the time? Well, they can, But because I run into
Speaker 2: or I cross paths with inexperienced mediums, these young mediums,
Speaker 2: oh spirits around me all the time. And it's like, well,
Speaker 2: that's great, but do you leave the doors and windows
Speaker 2: of your house open and unlow four to seven? Why?
Speaker 2: Why then would you do that to your brain and
Speaker 2: to your psyche. And it's not that there's evil spirits
Speaker 2: gonna get you. It has to do with setting boundaries paramters.
Speaker 2: You let the spirits know I'm either doing this or
Speaker 2: I'm not. Why, Because if you're open all the time,
Speaker 2: you're actually degrading the quality of the contact. Also, you're
Speaker 2: depleting yourself mentally, and it can be mentally, emotionally and
Speaker 2: physically and actually spiritually exhausting. So I limit the amount
Speaker 2: of time that I spend doing readings per day. It's
Speaker 2: no more than two readings per day. And because that way,
Speaker 2: it maintains the quality. And and because this ability is
Speaker 2: like a battery, it runs down and has to be replenished.
Speaker 2: You know, It's just like athletic ability. And you get
Speaker 2: an athlete, they can play a couple of you know,
Speaker 2: games of basketball. Well, when you're done, you got to
Speaker 2: you gotta rest, you gotta recharge. And so when I
Speaker 2: open up the frequency, what will happen is I get
Speaker 2: the sensation. It's kind of tingly, and that's electromagnetic energy,
Speaker 2: which we're going to talk about in a bit. And
Speaker 2: so when a spirit comes to me, what spirits do
Speaker 2: is they send a wave of EM energy, electromagnetic frequency
Speaker 2: that goes into my brain, and then my brain's EM
Speaker 2: field interfases with the spirits and the EM frequency or
Speaker 2: wave gets converted into recognizable concepts based on my memories, feelings,
Speaker 2: and cultural associations. Initially, when a spirit comes in, first
Speaker 2: I sense the gender. Then I get an idea of
Speaker 2: their relationship to you. So if I'm doing a reading
Speaker 2: on someone, I feel that they're on your level. That's
Speaker 2: your generation sibling, cousin's spouse, friend, the lawyer level, child, niece, nephew,
Speaker 2: above your level parent, aunt, uncle, so on and so forth.
Speaker 2: They don't have to be relatives, so like a lady
Speaker 2: on the mother level, could be a teacher, boss, professor, stepmother,
Speaker 2: mother in law that you may have had at some
Speaker 2: point during your life, or could be a friend that
Speaker 2: was older. Okay, then they're going to start transmitting to
Speaker 2: me all types of information. I will see things, hear things,
Speaker 2: feel things, and know things, and then I start describing
Speaker 2: it to the recipient so that they can confirm it.
Speaker 2: So that, in a nutshell, is how things come. People
Speaker 2: always want to know, well, do you see them standing
Speaker 2: in the room. Well, I can, but it's a lot
Speaker 2: of energy for the spirit to make that form of manifestation,
Speaker 2: and it's very draining on me. So most of the
Speaker 2: time they'd rather just send the information right into my
Speaker 2: brain and the way I see them would be the
Speaker 2: way you would see a vivid memory. So Cliff, for
Speaker 2: you and for all the listeners, Statue of Liberty, to
Speaker 2: see her in your mind's eye, that's how I see spirits.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, you're you're a lawyer, but you also do readings.
Speaker 1: Talk about your gifts as a lawyer, Can you enhance
Speaker 1: a because I mean in your book you talk about
Speaker 1: being a criminal defense attorneys. So for the different roles,
Speaker 1: does it come into play in your profession where you
Speaker 1: can actually access data that is valuable to a case.
Speaker 1: Talk about that, because I would think that you're dialing in.
Speaker 1: You're dialing in.
Speaker 2: I have so many stories just for everyone's edification. My
Speaker 2: life's work is now focused on the spiritual. So so
Speaker 2: I'm doing you know, readings, and I appear as a
Speaker 2: lecturer at afterlife conferences and ancient mysteries conferences as well.
Speaker 2: But when I was practicing law full time, you know,
Speaker 2: it's part of my skill set, I would start picking
Speaker 2: up on things and like one time I was doing
Speaker 2: I was. I started off as a prosecutor, then I
Speaker 2: became a criminal defense lawyer. Then I went into complex
Speaker 2: civil litigation with special particular emphasis on brain injury. And
Speaker 2: that's when I started seeing the parallel between the human
Speaker 2: physiology and spirit communication. In other words, there is a
Speaker 2: bonafide reason and explanation how this happens and why this happens.
Speaker 2: It's not pocus pocus or magic. It's based on frequency,
Speaker 2: energy transfer and human physiology. So I was as a
Speaker 2: criminal offense attorney, I had this one case and my
Speaker 2: client was this big bruiser and he'd got into a
Speaker 2: fight with this guy at a bar, and my client
Speaker 2: beat the daylights out of the other guy. So the
Speaker 2: other guy filed charges for aggravated battery. And at the
Speaker 2: risk of sounding facetious, it's not unusual in criminal cases,
Speaker 2: like when there's mutual combat, the loser is the one
Speaker 2: that files charges. So it's the beginning of the trial.
Speaker 2: It's jury selection, and jury selection is extremely important because
Speaker 2: you have to have a fair and impartial jury, or
Speaker 2: at least you know that's that's what is supposed to happen.
Speaker 2: And so the judge will bring in they will bring
Speaker 2: in a panel of prospective jurors, and both sides get
Speaker 2: to ask questions, and then he can eliminate people till
Speaker 2: you get down to In this instance, would have been
Speaker 2: six jurors in one alternate. In bigger felonies, it would
Speaker 2: be twelve jurors and maybe two or three alternates. We
Speaker 2: saw that like in the oj case and the Menendez
Speaker 2: And so the prosecutor went through through his questioning and
Speaker 2: then it was my turn to ask the prospective jurors questions.
Speaker 2: In this part of the trial, Jerry's selection is known
Speaker 2: as wadir, which is a French term which means to
Speaker 2: speak the truth. And this is before any witnesses or evidence.
Speaker 2: So I stand up and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 2: get those tangles that I get when a spirit comes through,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, this is not really when I want
Speaker 2: to be doing this. I kept getting drawn to this
Speaker 2: one woman and she was I remember, she was beautiful.
Speaker 2: She had these big dark eyes and beautiful olive complexion,
Speaker 2: and I felt a female energy around her and this
Speaker 2: tightening on my neck. So I knew that the female spirit.
Speaker 2: There was something going on with her breathing, ability to
Speaker 2: breathe prior to passing. And I was getting like this
Speaker 2: hyperventilating sensation. And so now it's my turn to ask
Speaker 2: the questions. And one of the standard questions because this
Speaker 2: was a crime of violence, okay, So I asked the juror,
Speaker 2: has anyone on the jury, or perhaps one of your
Speaker 2: family members, ever been the victim of a violent crime? Well,
Speaker 2: lone and behold this woman starts to shake, the tears
Speaker 2: start rolling down her cheeks, and she said, a year ago,
Speaker 2: my sister was in a foreign country when an escape
Speaker 2: mental patient strangled her, dismembered her body, and threw it
Speaker 2: in a dumpster like she was trash. Oh, boy, Cliff,
Speaker 2: nobody in law school taught me how to deal with
Speaker 2: this situation. And I'm standing there. I mean, you could
Speaker 2: hear a pin drop in the court. Even the prosecutor
Speaker 2: was a real pain, couldn't think of anything. And and
Speaker 2: I and I heard my client like, dude, what are
Speaker 2: you doing like this? And then I'm seeing I talk
Speaker 2: about you know, do you see I'm seeing her sister
Speaker 2: coming through. Literally I had a foot in both worlds.
Speaker 2: And if anyone wants to find out what happened, you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to get my book, Never Letting Go. That's
Speaker 2: my first book because I write about that and Never
Speaker 2: Letting Go. But but and and and it's it's it's
Speaker 2: it's an amazing thing that happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The thing is that was part of my skill set
Speaker 2: as an attorney. And you know, I had a reputation
Speaker 2: for this guy's a bit weird and he seems to
Speaker 2: know things he shouldn't do. And you know, in having
Speaker 2: opposing counsel, being a little bit afraid of you is
Speaker 2: not a bad thing when you're Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean to know that you're carrying along a bunch
Speaker 1: of tools that transcends normal living situations. So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I want to get into this after life frequency a
Speaker 1: bit and our ancestors, and we know now that the
Speaker 1: Egyptians and the Maya were very much focused on after life. Yes,
Speaker 1: the death, the transition into heaven and whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it. We're going to take a commercial break
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Speaker 1: return shortly with my guests today, Mark Anthony, talking about
Speaker 1: his newest book, The After Life Frequency, will be right back.
Speaker 1: My guest today is author Marc Anthony, who's written a
Speaker 1: new book called The Afterlife Frequency. He's talking about vibration,
Speaker 1: the energy of our soul and what happens when we
Speaker 1: pass over and the other dimensions, the energies that are
Speaker 1: part of those other places that we visit when we
Speaker 1: leave our bodies. Why is this important for us? The
Speaker 1: after life frequency? And talk about everything being a frequency,
Speaker 1: and this is an understanding in this book. So in
Speaker 1: other words, you're saying to the reader, understand that we
Speaker 1: are all energy, right, but take it to the next
Speaker 1: level and tell us why the afterlife frequency is so important.
Speaker 2: First off? Why is belief in and afterlife important? Saint
Speaker 2: Thomas Aquinas, who was a great medieval pologian, said, for
Speaker 2: those who believe, who believe, no proof is necessary. For
Speaker 2: those who do not, none may be possible. The twenty
Speaker 2: first century astrophysicist Neil de Grasse Tyson, one of my heroes, said,
Speaker 2: the beauty of science is you don't have to believe
Speaker 2: it or to be true. For too long, faith in
Speaker 2: science have been in this corner. We have faith in
Speaker 2: in this corner we have science thinginging, you know. And
Speaker 2: the two were supposedly diametrically opposed. But since the advent
Speaker 2: of quantum physics, it appears that faith and science in
Speaker 2: many respects, particularly when it comes to energy and the
Speaker 2: eternal nature of energy, are on the same side. Actually,
Speaker 2: they're not diametrically opposed at all. Every great belief system,
Speaker 2: from Hinduism five thousand years ago, through the ancient Egyptians,
Speaker 2: through Zoroastrianism, through Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Native American spirituality
Speaker 2: all teach that the soul, the who and what we
Speaker 2: are pre exists. The body comes into the body moves
Speaker 2: on after the body dies. We know from the second
Speaker 2: law of thermodynamics in physics that energy is neither created
Speaker 2: nor destroyed, only transferred from one form to another. We
Speaker 2: know from neuroscience the study of the human brain, and
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of my law practice on head
Speaker 2: injury cases in studying the human brain. The brain's only
Speaker 2: two percent of the body's weight, but it uses over
Speaker 2: twenty percent of its electrical energy. You know. And in science,
Speaker 2: science is split into two basic fields. You have the
Speaker 2: physical sciences, which is physics, engineering, chemistry, and then you
Speaker 2: have the biological sciences, you know, biology, botany, microbiology, And
Speaker 2: for centuries it's like, well, they're separate, but are they?
Speaker 2: Because both fields of science recognize that everything's made of molecules,
Speaker 2: which in turn are made of atoms, which in turn
Speaker 2: are composed of smaller particles electrons, protons and neutrons, which
Speaker 2: in turn are composed of a smaller particle of a
Speaker 2: quantum which is pure electro magnetic energy, and so on
Speaker 2: the quantum level. There is no difference between the physical
Speaker 2: and the biological sciences. And what that means is everything
Speaker 2: in the material universe. You me, the chairs were sitting
Speaker 2: on the radio waves the show's being broadcast on the light,
Speaker 2: we see the rings of Saturn and beyond are at
Speaker 2: the subatomic level, all made from the same form of
Speaker 2: electromagnetic energy. And people say to me, well, that's really
Speaker 2: hard to wrap my head around you think, I mean,
Speaker 2: it did take Albert Einstein, Max Planck, Werner, Heisenberg, Louis
Speaker 2: de Brogley, Niel's Borr to figure this stuff out. Oh
Speaker 2: and Maleva Einstein. I always like to give her credit
Speaker 2: because Einstein's wife worked with him on that, but he
Speaker 2: didn't credit her in the paper, so anyway, But at
Speaker 2: any rate, we know that everything on the subatomic level
Speaker 2: is made of electromagnetic energy, which is neither created nor destroyed,
Speaker 2: only transferred. So I developed the term the electro magnetic soul,
Speaker 2: and I introduced term in the afterlife frequency to explain
Speaker 2: what we really are in twenty first century terms, which
Speaker 2: is pure consciousness, meaning a soul or a spirit that
Speaker 2: is electro magnetic eternal energy. So when we physically die,
Speaker 2: and I think, the worst thing is to think that
Speaker 2: someone you loved so much disintegrated into nothingness. That's why
Speaker 2: from ancient times until now, people have grieved and mourned.
Speaker 2: I've done a lot of work with the mysteries and
Speaker 2: the secrets of Teuton Common's tomb and what's really fascinating,
Speaker 2: there's so many fascinating things about it. But when Howard Carter,
Speaker 2: the initial archaeological team, they started opening up the coffins,
Speaker 2: there was a bouquet of flowers on each of the coffins.
Speaker 2: Inside the three coffins, Somebody loved him, Somebody left flowers there.
Speaker 2: Somebody was hurting when he died. And you see this
Speaker 2: throughout history up to today. And so we now know
Speaker 2: that energies neither created nor destroyed, only transferred from one
Speaker 2: form to another when we die. Think of your EMS,
Speaker 2: your electromagnetic soul, as a drop of water, and that
Speaker 2: when we physically die, you got to realize your brain
Speaker 2: did not create the EMS. It only hosts it the
Speaker 2: way your computer hard drive posts the programs on it.
Speaker 2: You know, clip, did your computer create Windows?
Speaker 1: No? No?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, our computers don't create the data that's on it.
Speaker 2: There are formatting a host. Guess what that's what Our
Speaker 2: brain is. Brain's sophisticated in it governs perception, runs our body,
Speaker 2: but it didn't create who we Are it merely hosts
Speaker 2: our ems?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I want you to explain if you can, because
Speaker 1: you're very good at breaking this down. Does the soul
Speaker 1: have a frequency that we can measure? Is there a
Speaker 1: tool that we can use to measures souls entering the
Speaker 1: body and then releasing it, because we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about near death experience, which is a fundament.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're getting there. There's a lot of in
Speaker 2: paranormal investigations, and I do a lot of paranormal investigations.
Speaker 2: I'm part of a number of teams and I'm going
Speaker 2: to be on an upcoming episode on Discovery Channel of
Speaker 2: a new show called Destinations of the Damned, and they
Speaker 2: brought me in as a medium, and one of the
Speaker 2: other guests was Gary Galka, who invented the spirit box,
Speaker 2: which picks up the voices of spirits. I also worked
Speaker 2: with doctor Gary Schwartz at the University of Arizona, and
Speaker 2: doctor Gary Schwartz is working on technology known as the
Speaker 2: soul Phone, which we'll do, which does exactly what you're
Speaker 2: talking about. It picks up on the presence of spirits
Speaker 2: and they're refining it to where they're getting messages from
Speaker 2: from spirit. Wow. So the technology is. Yeah, last one's
Speaker 2: so fascinating because over well, actually about one hundred years ago,
Speaker 2: the last thing Thomas Edison was working on was what
Speaker 2: he called the spirit phone, and he said, I believe
Speaker 2: I can make a device sensitive enough to detect incarnate
Speaker 2: discarnate intelligence, meaning spirits. But see he died before he
Speaker 2: could finish it. And what doctor Schwartz has the benefit
Speaker 2: of is the last century of sophisticated electronics and quantum physics.
Speaker 2: So we are developing the ability to detect the presence
Speaker 2: of spirits and near death experience research has really brought
Speaker 2: a lot to the table in this as well.
Speaker 1: So the Egyptians had the Book of the Dead. They
Speaker 1: were so dialed into the afterlife that it seems that
Speaker 1: they probably were using these discarnate souls and people who
Speaker 1: have been around thousands of years to get data and
Speaker 1: to live maybe a more harmonious life. Is it your
Speaker 1: belief that we should be more in contact with the
Speaker 1: afterlife souls? Yes?
Speaker 2: And you know, people say, well, you know, do I
Speaker 2: have a relationship with God? You know, with the infinite
Speaker 2: intelligence we all do. We're constantly connected to and receiving
Speaker 2: messages from spirits. The question is our way recognizing the constant?
Speaker 2: And you know the thing is people, well, they'll they'll
Speaker 2: scoff at me, but then they'll have a dream where
Speaker 2: their grandmother comes and talks to them and they think
Speaker 2: it's real because it was. Because how far do you
Speaker 2: want me to go with this?
Speaker 1: I want to hear it all, buddy.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay. Inside the brain, in the center of the forehead,
Speaker 2: if you go about four and a half inches behind
Speaker 2: the center of the forehead, there's the pineal gland in
Speaker 2: the brain. Now, the pineal glands the most mysterious, misunderstood,
Speaker 2: smallest organ in the body, yet the most sophisticated, between
Speaker 2: the size of a grain of rice and a small
Speaker 2: lime of being a Recent discoveries have found calcite and
Speaker 2: magnetite crystal chips in it or fragments. It governs our brain,
Speaker 2: weigh frequencies, our circadian rhythms one we're hungry, one we're tired,
Speaker 2: one we're you know, you know, everything, when we want
Speaker 2: to sleep, And it also regulates our perception of light,
Speaker 2: which is really fascinating because light is how people perceive
Speaker 2: the spiritual energy of God, both visually and in visions
Speaker 2: that are transmitted by spirits or spiritual entities, and the
Speaker 2: pineal gland regulates our five main brain way frequencies Gamma, beta, alpha, theta,
Speaker 2: and delta. Gamma. Think you're on Final Jeopardy and you
Speaker 2: got to get that question, or you're taking a calculus exam,
Speaker 2: you're just like cranking your brain to full throttle. That's
Speaker 2: gamma beta activities of daily living. That's the way you
Speaker 2: know wakeful state Alpha for all of our Southern California listeners,
Speaker 2: that's the griovy baby state. You know, that's where you
Speaker 2: know you start to relax, and Theta is when you
Speaker 2: go into the dream state, very RESTful sleep. Delta very
Speaker 2: little brainwave activity, but it's extremely important because that's where
Speaker 2: you heal and where children grow. So that's like healing
Speaker 2: cellular regeneration. But let's go back to the alpha theta border,
Speaker 2: which you're talking about spirits being measured. Each of these
Speaker 2: brainwave frequencies, we measure them through the amount of hurts
Speaker 2: and it's at eight hertz, which is the alpha theta border,
Speaker 2: which is where psychic and mediumistic activity occur. So what happens, Cliff,
Speaker 2: is when people go to sleep and they get at
Speaker 2: that eight hurts. Spirits can see that they align their
Speaker 2: frequency from a higher vibration. You get a frequency match,
Speaker 2: and that's where spirit communication occurs. Conversely, it can happen
Speaker 2: in the awake state when people feel somebody around them.
Speaker 2: But what we don't understand is why people like me
Speaker 2: can go from beta to alpha theta within seconds involuntarily.
Speaker 2: And the studies indicate there may be The suggestion is
Speaker 2: there may be something somewhat different about our pineal gland.
Speaker 2: But you know, we're all good at different things. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can swim, but I'm never gonna be a Michael Phelps.
Speaker 2: I can play guitar, but I'm never gonna be a
Speaker 2: you know, Keith Urban or a Brad Paisley. You know,
Speaker 2: I can do math, but I'm never gonna be a
Speaker 2: Max tech Mark or a Stephen Hawking. Thing is people
Speaker 2: are simply good at doing different things right, and this
Speaker 2: happens to be, you know, part of my skill set, so.
Speaker 1: In your feeling intuitively, and maybe it's his research as well.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Egyptians were so dialed into the
Speaker 1: death side of life after life that they had regular
Speaker 1: communication and maybe help themselves evolve from these higher levels
Speaker 1: that weren't in the body anymore. But we're downloading volumes
Speaker 1: of data so that they could exceed their perhaps physical goals.
Speaker 2: It would it would perceive, so it would perceive, so
Speaker 2: it would seem so based on the perception. I've done
Speaker 2: a lot of work with Egyptology and the Egyptians, particularly
Speaker 2: in the aristocrats and the pharaohs tombs, they would have
Speaker 2: chapels where people would come and bring offerings to the
Speaker 2: one who's died. And when you look at you know,
Speaker 2: and we were given a gift by the discovery of
Speaker 2: King tuton Common's tomb. And what a lot of people
Speaker 2: don't understand, Tuton Common's tomb was, in my opinion, the
Speaker 2: greatest archaeological discovery, certainly in Egypt, and maybe of all time.
Speaker 2: There's over fifty five hundred objects found in the tomb,
Speaker 2: you know, and everyone's the gold and the treasure. But
Speaker 2: that was in nineteen twenty two. Seventeen years later, in
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty nine, farther north along the Nile River, at
Speaker 2: the excavation of the city of Tannis, three pharaohs tombs,
Speaker 2: they were all in the same structure, were found intact.
Speaker 2: Now these Pharaohs were from the latter part of Egypt.
Speaker 2: Egypt was on the downswing, and they found six hundred
Speaker 2: objects in there, including solid silver coffins, and silver was
Speaker 2: more valued by the Egyptians than gold because they had
Speaker 2: to import it. And the reason nobody knows about this,
Speaker 2: or you know, except for people like me and you
Speaker 2: that study this is because the story broke in nineteen
Speaker 2: thirty nine as Hitler was invading Poland, so the world
Speaker 2: press was focused on that. And what's interesting is the
Speaker 2: archaeologist he was French, Pierre Monteyne. I want to give
Speaker 2: him credit. In Raiders of the Lost Art, Indiana Jones's
Speaker 2: nemesis Renee Bellick, his character George Lucas based him on
Speaker 2: Pierre Montet. Wow, okay, And even though he was kind
Speaker 2: of the bad or kind of was the bad guy,
Speaker 2: he still had a pinash and a swapness about him.
Speaker 2: But be that as it made. Pierre Montet made one
Speaker 2: of the greatest archaeological discoveries of all time. And the
Speaker 2: Egyptians used to preserve the body because they believed in resurrection,
Speaker 2: not reincarnation. And then you're like, well, okay, so they
Speaker 2: take a body, they remove the brain, throw it away,
Speaker 2: they take the heart out, Mammafi, those put all the organs,
Speaker 2: wrap it up, poor ungeons on it, basically glued it
Speaker 2: into a coffin and then several other coffins and under
Speaker 2: granite sarcophagus and put it underground. So how are they
Speaker 2: supposed to resurrect? It was a spiritual resurrection, not necessarily
Speaker 2: a physical insurrection, despite all the horror movies of hyperactive
Speaker 2: mummies popping out and you know, running around and wreaking
Speaker 2: havoc on people. But but the Egyptians, and and I
Speaker 2: actually saw in Peru. I was in the city of
Speaker 2: Oya Taya, Totambo, Okay, you know what. Okay, Yes, in
Speaker 2: the Sacred Valley, and the people that live there speak Keetchua,
Speaker 2: which is the language that the Incas spoke, and they're
Speaker 2: the direct descendants of the Incas and the Incan Empire.
Speaker 2: I mean, just real quick spanned a good chunk of
Speaker 2: the eastern half of set of South America, and when
Speaker 2: the Spanish invaded and conquered it, it made Spain wealthy
Speaker 2: beyond belief. The amount of gold and silver and emeralds
Speaker 2: and rubies that they sacked and looted from the Inca Empire.
Speaker 2: But at Oyataia Titambo, that was one of the very
Speaker 2: few places where the Inca's actually defeated the Spanish army.
Speaker 2: So to this day they're like, we defeated the Spanish,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's like really cool when you meet them.
Speaker 2: So I was there as part with a part of
Speaker 2: an archaeological team and we were studying the Inca Empire
Speaker 2: and ancient culture, and our guide introduced us to this
Speaker 2: woman selling corn. In the corn they grow in the
Speaker 2: Sacred Valley. The ears are only about six or seven
Speaker 2: inches long, and they got these huge kernels on them,
Speaker 2: and it is the most delicious corn, I mean, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: They grill it. It is sweet and smoky. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you ever I mean, it's almost worth the trip
Speaker 2: this south in America to eat this corn. But this woman,
Speaker 2: they you know, she knew that I was a medium.
Speaker 2: She picked up on it, and she invited me into
Speaker 2: her home, and so, you know, we graciously accepted, and
Speaker 2: so we had our translator and we had this woman
Speaker 2: and there was like two or three other people with me,
Speaker 2: and we walked into her home and it was probably
Speaker 2: the building they lived in was at least four hundred
Speaker 2: years old, and it was on you know, the cobblestone
Speaker 2: streets that the Incas had built with a drainage system
Speaker 2: that still works. I wonder how much of our you know,
Speaker 2: public drainage system is going to work in four or
Speaker 2: five hundred years. So we walk in. There's a hearth,
Speaker 2: there's a pot on the stove. It's kind of smoking
Speaker 2: in there. You could see older folks sitting in some
Speaker 2: chairs with grandparents, little kids playing on the floor. Looked
Speaker 2: like her husband came walking up. And then we stopped
Speaker 2: because right above the hearth there are two human skulls,
Speaker 2: and we're like, oh, and and and they were waiting
Speaker 2: for our reaction. They knew you're like, oh, the gringos.
Speaker 2: Let's see how the gringoes react. But it wasn't horrifying.
Speaker 2: And through our translator, she said, these are the skulls
Speaker 2: of our ancestors. I think there were some great grandparents.
Speaker 2: And I said, is this like the day of the
Speaker 2: dead in Mexico? And she smiled and she goes, every
Speaker 2: day is the day of the dead.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And she explained that in their belief system, and even
Speaker 2: though technically they're halflic you know, because when the Spanish
Speaker 2: came in, they converted people at the point of a sword.
Speaker 2: In this part of Peru, there's a melding of the
Speaker 2: ancient income beliefs with Christianity. And we see that with
Speaker 2: the Day of the Dead celebration in Central America too,
Speaker 2: because the Day of the Dead was the Catholic Church
Speaker 2: compromise to celebrate it on All Souls Day, which is
Speaker 2: forever second. But in Latin America, in the southwest US,
Speaker 2: it's kind of a whole week of partying, which, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's like a Halloween with a Latin
Speaker 2: Latin flavor to it. Although the tradition is at least
Speaker 2: a thousand years predates Columbus by a thousand years, and
Speaker 2: so here in Peru they said that the skulls of
Speaker 2: the ancestors brought forth the spirits who would watch over
Speaker 2: and protect the family. There's a parallel between what they're
Speaker 2: doing there and what the Egyptians were doing. Then when
Speaker 2: you go through, particularly in countries that have been traditionally
Speaker 2: Catholic in Europe Spain, Portugal, Italy of course, and even
Speaker 2: in areas that Greek Orthodox, the more ancient Christian religions
Speaker 2: a lot of the cathedrals will have relics. They may
Speaker 2: have a skull or a bone from a saint, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of the same thing that you know, this
Speaker 2: has a mystical power that draws a protective energy around them.
Speaker 2: And now I'm not criticizing, I'm not justifying, I'm not insulting.
Speaker 2: I'm merely explaining. I've spent Yes, I'm an attorney, but
Speaker 2: I've also spent my life studying theology, archaeology, philosophy, history, biology, neurology,
Speaker 2: and quantum physics. That's why they you know, I'm known
Speaker 2: as the psychic Explorer because I work in a lot
Speaker 2: of related different fields, but related fields because I see
Speaker 2: how this all ties together. So I know that was
Speaker 2: the lengthy explanation, but I hope it answers your question.
Speaker 1: Well, it's excellent because were my listeners are very much
Speaker 1: into ancient history, street and the various civilizations that work
Speaker 1: with afterlife communication. We're going to take a short commercial
Speaker 1: break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we
Speaker 1: will return shortly with my guest today, Mark Anthony, talking
Speaker 1: about his new book, The Afterlife Frequency. Will rejoin you shortly.
Speaker 1: My guest today is Mark Anthony who's discussing his new
Speaker 1: book the Afterlife Frequency, and specifically the electrical magnetic soul.
Speaker 1: How we are energy from the time we're physical to
Speaker 1: the time we leave our body and return to the afterlife.
Speaker 1: Let's bring in the near death experience. How does that
Speaker 1: work with afterlife frequency. We know that people who have
Speaker 1: experienced passing through and going to the place we recognize
Speaker 1: as heaven will meet relatives, ancestors' guides, whatever, and then
Speaker 1: come back right, So, how does the afterlife frequency affect
Speaker 1: the near death experience?
Speaker 2: My electromagnetic soul theory provides a explanation based on sound
Speaker 2: scientific principles or near death experiences, as well as the
Speaker 2: existence of a soul, spirit, communication, deathbed visions, out of
Speaker 2: body experiences, and even reincarnation, because once again, energy is
Speaker 2: neither created nor destroyed, only transferred from one form to another.
Speaker 2: Think of your brain, Okay, your brain's the hosting device.
Speaker 2: Think of your electromagnetic soul as a drop of water.
Speaker 2: When we physically die, that drop of water leaves the
Speaker 2: brain and it plunges into the eternal sea of souls
Speaker 2: that I call the collective consciousness. And that way you're
Speaker 2: energetically linked with other spirits, linked with other spirits, but
Speaker 2: sometimes that drop bounces back, and what happens is people
Speaker 2: will leave their body, and there appears to be in
Speaker 2: all the International Association for Near Death Studies, in addition
Speaker 2: to the Near Death Experience Research Foundation and the Science
Speaker 2: and Medical Network out of the UK, those are in ions,
Speaker 2: the Institute of Noetic Sciences, those are the four of
Speaker 2: the biggest institutions that study this, and there are others.
Speaker 2: So if I've left anybody out, it's you know, only
Speaker 2: for lack of time. There seem to be phases, because
Speaker 2: phases of what happens during a near death experience, but
Speaker 2: they occur regardless of your religious beliefs. Drugs and alcohol
Speaker 2: don't appear to have a factor one way or the other.
Speaker 2: They can happen to anybody. Age, gender, socioeconomic status don't matter.
Speaker 2: So when somebody dies, their ems, their consciousness leaves their body. Generally,
Speaker 2: there's the they may kind of wander around a hospital
Speaker 2: because many times they'll hear what people are saying in
Speaker 2: another room. I got a lot of good stories on
Speaker 2: that one, which really cool. Then after the initial separation
Speaker 2: from the body, there's the going through the tunnel into
Speaker 2: the light. And then once they go into the light,
Speaker 2: they will encounter people who are dead, and they only
Speaker 2: encounter people who are dead. Now, I'm going to come
Speaker 2: back on that one, and then if the experience lasts
Speaker 2: long enough, the next phase is going deeper into the light.
Speaker 2: Remember I said, the pineal gland is how we perceive
Speaker 2: the spiritual energy of God and encountering a pervasive love,
Speaker 2: a calmness, a serenity, and a beautiful presence and a voice.
Speaker 2: And this is where it will be. You have to
Speaker 2: go back and then people are pulled back into their bodies.
Speaker 2: Now the critics say this is the side effect of
Speaker 2: a dying brain. Okay, if it is, there was. This
Speaker 2: is one of several studies conduct by the iconic doctor
Speaker 2: Kenneth Ring, one of the founders of Ians. He did
Speaker 2: a study on Okay, there was a woman in Japan,
Speaker 2: young woman, I guess she was in her twenties. She
Speaker 2: was in surgery at the hospital and she died on
Speaker 2: the operating table, and she went through all those phases
Speaker 2: and encountered her sister in the light and she was
Speaker 2: resuscitated and her parents were there, and she said, I
Speaker 2: saw my sister. But how can that be because she
Speaker 2: is not dead. And her parents burst into tears and
Speaker 2: said she was killed in a car accident last night.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, this.
Speaker 2: Woman didn't know that she was in surgery and she
Speaker 2: encountered her sister's spirit. How is that an effect of
Speaker 2: a dying brain? Something just going on inside of your head?
Speaker 2: Doctor Kenneth Ring did studies on people who were blind
Speaker 2: since birth and had near death experiences, and they came
Speaker 2: back talking of visual accounts of things that they encountered. Now,
Speaker 2: if they were blind since birth and it's a side
Speaker 2: effect of a dying brain, wouldn't the brain be drawing
Speaker 2: on things that are in it instead of creating something
Speaker 2: it never knew? Then? One of my favorite Kimberly Clark Sharp,
Speaker 2: and I'm very privileged to know her, and I'm looking
Speaker 2: forward to seeing her at the IANS conference this year.
Speaker 2: I'm speaking at their fiftieth anniversary conference. I've been honored
Speaker 2: to be one of the keynote speakers.
Speaker 1: Are you're coming up north here to do that? Huh?
Speaker 1: I mean Francisco.
Speaker 2: It'll be in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's in Chicago this year, okay, yea.
Speaker 2: And she died on an operating table, and the next
Speaker 2: thing she knew she was hovering above the table and
Speaker 2: she was going by as her spirit was rising. She
Speaker 2: could see the surgeon and the surgical staff working to
Speaker 2: try to revive her. As she drifts past the light fixture,
Speaker 2: she said, boy, this is really dusty. I have to
Speaker 2: tell the nurse about this. Then she goes, whoa, I'm
Speaker 2: an out of my body. And then the next thing
Speaker 2: she knows, I know, I know. I thought that was funny.
Speaker 2: And then the next thing she said, I was hovering
Speaker 2: above the hospital and I saw the rain gutters and
Speaker 2: at the corner of the building there was this blue sneaker,
Speaker 2: this blue tennis shoe, stuck in the rain gutter. Right so,
Speaker 2: she gets resuscitated and she starts talking about there's you know,
Speaker 2: she's talking about the blue sneaker, and the surgeon said,
Speaker 2: get two people up on the roof right now. He
Speaker 2: wanted two people to see exactly where She said it
Speaker 2: was was a blue sneaker stuck in the rain gutter.
Speaker 2: And I remember I spoke about that at one Irons conference.
Speaker 2: In the next year. She came up to me and
Speaker 2: gave me a blue sneaker, which I thought was really
Speaker 2: really cool of her to do. But the thing is,
Speaker 2: through near death experience research, we're seeing that the consciousness
Speaker 2: to who and what you are survives physical death. And
Speaker 2: not only does it survive, but this electromagnetic quantum field
Speaker 2: stays coherent.
Speaker 1: Okay, but this is fine. I mean, I know I
Speaker 1: still know him. I haven't talked him in the years,
Speaker 1: doctor Raymond Moody. He used to do conferences up here
Speaker 1: in San Francisco when we did Whole Life Expo. But
Speaker 1: the thing is, yes, near death experience, we recognize the
Speaker 1: soul doesn't die, blah blah blah blah blah. But why
Speaker 1: where are we taking it to the next level? Mark,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about what the Egyptians did. We don't
Speaker 1: understand how in step they were with the afterlife. And
Speaker 1: a while ago I was mentioning I believe it helped
Speaker 1: them evolve. If they can download the geniuses of thousands
Speaker 1: of years in the past reuse the technology. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of strangers about the Egyptians. They have advanced technology
Speaker 1: embedded in their system. We don't know how that came about, No.
Speaker 2: We don't. We still don't know how old the sphinx is.
Speaker 2: We can do a whole presentation, a whole show just
Speaker 2: on on the Geezel Plateau. We still don't know how
Speaker 2: the pyramids were constructed, and now that science is showing
Speaker 2: that there are additional chambers within within the Great Pier,
Speaker 2: I always figured there were. Why would they built this
Speaker 2: massive thing just to have one or two rooms in it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, exactly.
Speaker 2: Apparently there's chambers all over the place. The question is
Speaker 2: how do we get to them? And I understand one.
Speaker 2: They opened it up and Sands started pointing out they
Speaker 2: close it because it's like, is this ballast for the
Speaker 2: You know, you got to be careful when you say that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you also have to look at you know, yes,
Speaker 2: the Egyptians did amazing things, but look where we live.
Speaker 2: Look at the amazing technological advances that we have, and
Speaker 2: the people that have come up with these and invented these.
Speaker 2: Where are they getting that knowledge from? So they very
Speaker 2: well maybe drawing on the wisdom of the collective consciousness.
Speaker 2: Many times when I do readings, sorry about that, I
Speaker 2: don't know a lot of my computer makes those noises, but
Speaker 2: there must be some spirits. But I'll be doing a
Speaker 2: reading and a spirit will come forward and start giving
Speaker 2: information that far exceeded the scope of anything that they
Speaker 2: knew here in this world. I was doing a reading
Speaker 2: for this woman and it was a telephone reading. I
Speaker 2: do you know most of my private readings or telephone readings,
Speaker 2: which are just as accurate as in person. It all
Speaker 2: has to do because they move at the speed of light,
Speaker 2: just like the phone call does. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I said, you have a son, because your mother's spirit
Speaker 2: is talking about your son, and she goes, yes, get
Speaker 2: his heart checked. There's something there's some type of congenital
Speaker 2: problem with his heart. This is really important. Well, there's
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with my son. I said, look, I'm delivering
Speaker 2: the message. Well a year later and I'd forgotten about
Speaker 2: that because I do a lot of readings. I was
Speaker 2: doing a phone reading for a gentlemen, and at the
Speaker 2: end of the reading, he said, you probably don't remember,
Speaker 2: but a year ago you did this reading for my
Speaker 2: wife and her mother came through and said, get our
Speaker 2: son's heart checked. There's a congenital defect. I said, now
Speaker 2: that you mention it, I do recall that. He said.
Speaker 2: We just returned from the Cleveland Clinics Heart Center where
Speaker 2: our son had surgery and the surgeon said, I don't
Speaker 2: know how you knew about this, because they went in
Speaker 2: to their doctor and said, please please do a scan,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, they go, oh, my god,
Speaker 2: he's got this heart defect. He said, if it wasn't
Speaker 2: for what came up in the reading, our son would
Speaker 2: have died. Yeah, but we were able to get it corrected. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't know these things, but the spirits do. And
Speaker 2: that's why, Like you also have to realize, the Egyptians
Speaker 2: also didn't have the societal hang ups. And yes, they
Speaker 2: lived in a theocracy where religion, you know, was in
Speaker 2: government or tied together, but spirituality and the spirits of
Speaker 2: supernatural entities were part of their lives and at the
Speaker 2: risk of being critical of Christianity, and Christus was about
Speaker 2: as cool as they get, not about it as he
Speaker 2: was as cool as it gets. Talk about spiritual people
Speaker 2: say mediums are not a god. Okay, Well, then read
Speaker 2: the Transfiguration where Jesus takes disciples to the top of
Speaker 2: a mountain. All of a sudden, he glows and Moses
Speaker 2: and Elijah appear on either side of him. Hello, mediumship,
Speaker 2: I mean he got Moses and Elijah to come through.
Speaker 2: And that's pretty pretty impressive on any standard. But the
Speaker 2: Egyptians didn't have religious fanatics telling them no no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no no about everything. Instead, they were closer to
Speaker 2: nature and the possibilities of it. And one of the lecturers,
Speaker 2: one of my Ancient Mysteries lectures, is entitled Rulers, Royals,
Speaker 2: Psychics and Spirits, Mystics behind the Thrones of Power, and
Speaker 2: I take the audience on a journey through time to
Speaker 2: leaders from ancient Egypt all the way up to one
Speaker 2: third of us presidents who have had psychic advisors behind
Speaker 2: the scenes. We've been there the whole time, just we've
Speaker 2: been in the closet, so to speak.
Speaker 1: So what do you see the future as a medium
Speaker 1: and also a person who is defining these frequencies? Do
Speaker 1: you see at some point that we return to our
Speaker 1: roots and begin using our ancestors, who are not in
Speaker 1: physical form anymore as a reference.
Speaker 2: I see that. I've been a member of the Shift
Speaker 2: Network's Ancestral Healing Summit programs many times, and connecting with
Speaker 2: the spirits of ancestors can bring a lot of healing,
Speaker 2: can bring a lot of I mean, I do readings
Speaker 2: for people, And in fact, last week I was doing
Speaker 2: a ring for a woman and her mother came through
Speaker 2: and she goes, I know, I want to talk to her.
Speaker 2: She like obviously had a lot of issues, but her
Speaker 2: mother was trying to apologize, And after the client settled down,
Speaker 2: delivered some very important messages and did this spirit explained
Speaker 2: that when she was a girl, she was you know,
Speaker 2: physically and psychologically abused, you know, wounded people, wound people,
Speaker 2: and so her mother, you know, never had the never
Speaker 2: had any psychological treatment or anything to help her be angry,
Speaker 2: vicious person, and instead she took it out on her daughter,
Speaker 2: who was my client. And it was really a beautiful
Speaker 2: session where there was such resolution coming through. For me,
Speaker 2: the most humbling, the most humbling connections are when I
Speaker 2: do readings for parents who've lost children and how the
Speaker 2: child's spirit will come through to help the parent make
Speaker 2: sense of things and help the parent to fine dinner peace.
Speaker 2: Because you said, from ancient times till now, could there
Speaker 2: be a worse loss than losing a child? There isn't.
Speaker 2: There is no pain greater than that, and spirit communication
Speaker 2: is an important therapeutic step in the journey through grief.
Speaker 2: You said you're in the San Francisco area. I'll be
Speaker 2: at the New Living Expo in May in San and Raphael,
Speaker 2: so hopefully we'll get a chance to meet.
Speaker 1: Well. Hell yeah, I'm actually doing a panel discussion on
Speaker 1: ancient civilizations.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, I'll be there. Hey, if you
Speaker 2: need another person on the panel.
Speaker 1: I might put you on it.
Speaker 2: Mark count me in. I would love to do that.
Speaker 2: And I've got two online light circles over February fourteenth
Speaker 2: and fifteenth online for Valentine's The reason we're doing it
Speaker 2: then is because a broken heart doesn't have to last
Speaker 2: forever in spare communications, very healing. And then on the
Speaker 2: twentieth of February, il be on Great Day Houston, the
Speaker 2: CBS morning show KHOU in Houston. Get free tickets and
Speaker 2: I'll be doing readings for audience members. And then the
Speaker 2: twenty first, twenty second, twenty third, and twenty fourth I'll
Speaker 2: be at Body Mind and Soul of Houston doing public
Speaker 2: mediumship events.
Speaker 1: And doing You're not doing conscious life down where you're
Speaker 1: at in La.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm in Florida. I'm in Florida, Florida.
Speaker 1: I thought you were Los Angeles. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Well I'm in I'm in La a Lot and then
Speaker 2: in March I'm going to be at the Sedona Ascension
Speaker 2: Retreat and I'll be giving a talk called Reincarnation. The
Speaker 2: subtitle is DejaVu, Who were You Before You were You?
Speaker 2: And I'll also be doing spirit communication events. So I
Speaker 2: want to invite all the listeners to sign up for
Speaker 2: my newsletter, which is at afterlifefrequency dot com. And if
Speaker 2: you go to my website you can find out about
Speaker 2: and I do one on one readings. You can sign
Speaker 2: up for those. We've got the light Circles coming up,
Speaker 2: and if you can get tickets to all the events
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna be at. Also, I write for Best
Speaker 2: Holistic Life magazine and it's such a beautiful, beautiful publication
Speaker 2: that helps people in so many ways. And every Thursday
Speaker 2: I have a call in show, The Psychic. In the
Speaker 2: doc my co host is the amazing doctor Pat, doctor
Speaker 2: Pat Vasilli, and people call in and I do readings
Speaker 2: for them in conjunction. Doctor Pat helps you figure out
Speaker 2: the significance and what it means. And we just won
Speaker 2: Best Radio Show of the Year second year in a row.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so you can find out about all of
Speaker 2: that by visiting afterlifefrequency dot com.
Speaker 1: So the books called the Afterlife Frequency. My guest today
Speaker 1: has been Mark Anthony. Mark, who should buy this book?
Speaker 1: Who did you write it for? Talk about that for
Speaker 1: a minute.
Speaker 2: I wrote this book for anyone who wants to take
Speaker 2: the next step. Spirit communication is not focus pocus or magic.
Speaker 2: It's real. It's based on sound scientific principles. So it's
Speaker 2: based on people who want a logical explanation of the
Speaker 2: existence of an afterlife, of the existence of a soul,
Speaker 2: of the reality of spirit communication, your death experiences and
Speaker 2: out of body experiences reincarnation. But it's also for people
Speaker 2: who are suffering with grief and post traumatic stress disorder. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do. Because I'm a male medium, I work a
Speaker 2: lot with men. I've had a lot of military people
Speaker 2: come to me for readings, and men need to learn
Speaker 2: how to grieve. You know, we are are Traditionally, we've
Speaker 2: been socialized to suppress our feelings. And my dad, the
Speaker 2: toughest bad asses guy ever known, the Navy seal, taught
Speaker 2: me a real man is never afraid to cry for
Speaker 2: someone he loved who dies.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Excellent, excellent. Mark fantastic. H much success on this
Speaker 1: of course, So you've already had it out for a while.
Speaker 1: And do you have a YouTube channel? People people can
Speaker 1: go and see you. I do.
Speaker 2: And that's also you know, when you go to my website,
Speaker 2: it's all there. You'll see a logo to click on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've got YouTube. I've got a number of Facebook channel
Speaker 2: I mean pages and groups. Okay, yeah, so it's all
Speaker 2: at afterlifefrequency dot com.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wonderful that you're so active. Some people will
Speaker 1: just write a book and go I'm done, but you're
Speaker 1: like totally plugged into the whole phenomenon.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just you know, I am so honored and
Speaker 2: so humble. Number one, For whatever reason, I've been given
Speaker 2: these gifts, and I decided to go into law. I
Speaker 2: was originally going to go into the clergy, but I
Speaker 2: thought there was too many rules in regulations.
Speaker 1: I don't see it's.
Speaker 2: On a law go figure. But that gave me access
Speaker 2: to so many different scientific fields and study because you
Speaker 2: have to learn all that to prove your case. Plus
Speaker 2: I was on my feet every day talking to groups
Speaker 2: of people, taking complex concepts and learning how to explain them.
Speaker 2: And you know, ways that anyone can relate to it.
Speaker 2: And that's very important. And so I thank God every day,
Speaker 2: and I do believe in God. I don't believe God's
Speaker 2: a neurotic white guy sitting on a throne with a
Speaker 2: scepter smiting people. That's a bunch of medieval European imagery.
Speaker 2: But I believe that the energy that flows through all
Speaker 2: of us, it's like what Nikola Tesla said, what one
Speaker 2: man or what one person calls God another cause the
Speaker 2: laws of physics. And I believe that on the quantum level,
Speaker 2: not only are we all interconnected, but that interconnectedness and
Speaker 2: intelligence flows through it, which you can consider to be God.
Speaker 2: And people say, well, how do I find God? You
Speaker 2: already have? Yeah, all connected? You all you have that connection.
Speaker 2: And I don't tell people how to believe. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know when I hear people are my religions the
Speaker 2: one and only way, And it's like, yeah, so what
Speaker 2: you're telling me is that the infinite intelligence that spans
Speaker 2: distances we can't even fathom, limited to your particular viewpoint.
Speaker 2: But that's how you want to believe. That's fine, But remember,
Speaker 2: true spirituality is about peace, love, compassion, healing and understanding
Speaker 2: ego edging God out. When people take religion to justify anger, bigotry, hatred,
Speaker 2: and violence, all they're doing is hijacking a religion or
Speaker 2: a moral justification for their ego driven agenda. And that's
Speaker 2: how you tell the difference.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. Mark's been fun. Let's do it again sometime.
Speaker 2: I look forward to it, Cliff.
Speaker 1: You know, one thing to think about, and you know,
Speaker 1: energy is a topic on a number of our programs here,
Speaker 1: not only in Destiny, but Earth Ancients is if this
Speaker 1: is important, the frequency of our soul what Mark called
Speaker 1: the electromagnetic frequency of the soul. Isn't it fascinating that
Speaker 1: our ancestors were very much fixated on energy, megalithic energy,
Speaker 1: the energy that is on tollric energy fields that are
Speaker 1: underneath temples, pyramids and other buildings. They really had a
Speaker 1: very sophisticated earth science. And this is what Chris Dunn
Speaker 1: tells us. He believes they were. We're earth scientists. And
Speaker 1: this is really important because this means that we need
Speaker 1: to reevaluate our building techniques. We need to reevaluate our
Speaker 1: healthcare system. Why is the richest country in the world,
Speaker 1: the United States, so unhealthy I think the other day
Speaker 1: I was reading of the top ten industrial nations, the
Speaker 1: United States is number ten. That's embarrassing. It's because we're
Speaker 1: a marketing country. We're in the marketing and everything. You
Speaker 1: don't go to the doctor and without him selling you something, pills,
Speaker 1: unnecessary surgery procedures. It's a business. And that's the other
Speaker 1: thing that I really abhor is the fact that modern
Speaker 1: medicine is is more focused on making money than healing people.
Speaker 1: I think that's really a big problem, especially with the
Speaker 1: big HMOs. I'm here in northern California with Kaiser, and
Speaker 1: they go out of their way to give you stuff
Speaker 1: you don't need. It's pretty funny. But anyhow, this is
Speaker 1: a very important point is that our ancestors understood, cultivated, magnified,
Speaker 1: and bathed themselves and earth energy, and they were constantly
Speaker 1: working to heal themselves, to be in balance, to be
Speaker 1: in harmony. This is something we need to really really evaluate.
Speaker 1: So I think what's happening is in the future we'll
Speaker 1: be building more in tune with nature, not out of
Speaker 1: tune and building these monstrosities. Now. One of the things
Speaker 1: that I've learned, I learned it from my Mayan mentor
Speaker 1: Whombot's Men, as well as a number of people in Egypt,
Speaker 1: Muhammed Amberheim and others who are in Egypt. Just a
Speaker 1: lot of these buildings are offline. A lot of the
Speaker 1: temples that we go to once we're sitting on Tulleric
Speaker 1: energy feels now through earthquakes, through age, through changing of
Speaker 1: the geological platforms underground aquifers. The energy is not necessarily
Speaker 1: flowing as strongly or as directly as it was when
Speaker 1: they built these temples. But when you go to Dendera
Speaker 1: and you bring a compass, you still can get pretty
Speaker 1: good readings that tell you stand here for a little bit,
Speaker 1: get a sense of the energy. So lots of considerations
Speaker 1: when it comes to energy. So the Afterlife Frequency really
Speaker 1: an interesting book. By the way, Mark is going to
Speaker 1: be part of the New Living Expo May ninth, tenth
Speaker 1: and level. He'll be speaking on the tenth Saturday, the
Speaker 1: tenth of May, and he'll be joining my panel Ancient
Speaker 1: Unknown Ancient Civilizations Sunday, May eleventh. It's at eleven am
Speaker 1: in the panel room. It'll be Mark, Ben van Kirkwick,
Speaker 1: Mike Ricksecker and Brad Olsen. He'll be there too, so
Speaker 1: we'll have a good panel discussion. And if you want
Speaker 1: more information on the new Living expots held in Santa
Speaker 1: Fel just north of San Francisco and Marin County. And
Speaker 1: to get more information new Livingexpo dot com. You'll see
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Speaker 1: have nothing to do with it in terms of programming,
Speaker 1: but I was asked to put together a panel on
Speaker 1: ancient civilizations because I kind of know something about it.
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