WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:03.839 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, Welcome back to another episode of 2 00:00:03.879 --> 00:00:05.160 the Outside Minds Podcast. 3 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:06.559 I'm your hosting creator Steeo Free. 4 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:09.000 This is the other hosting creator, Do fault Tuny, and 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.960 we are doing with a swapcast with the six g 6 00:00:12.199 --> 00:00:14.480 Agenda podcast. I hope I got that right. I'm going 7 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:16.000 to swing it on over to those guys so they 8 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:17.039 can tell you what's going on. 9 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:19.120 What's up? 10 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:21.920 Yeah, I'm Andrew, I'm for sixty Agenda and we talked 11 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:24.320 about what they want. I'm here so lo, my boy 12 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:26.920 Justin ain't with me, but Justin Ward on the cords. 13 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:30.839 He's on most of my episodes as well. But yeah, welcome, 14 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:31.559 thanks for having me. 15 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:31.800 Man. 16 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:32.520 Nice nice. 17 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:38.320 How did you guys get into a conspiracy man? 18 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:40.640 To be honest, it goes back a long time for me. 19 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:43.200 I mean as a kid, I was in the ancient uh, 20 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:46.840 you know, civilization, so it started, you know quick, and 21 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:50.399 then after that aliens all the basic pop culture, you 22 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:53.520 know pop conspiracy stuff. Now I'm kind of deep into 23 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:57.119 the you know, secret society symbolism, okay, carf kind of 24 00:00:57.159 --> 00:00:58.520 aspected things perfect cool. 25 00:00:58.520 --> 00:00:59.840 So yeah, yeah, that's where it all. 26 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:03.000 So I guess you could say, like the mind control, 27 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:04.959 the Internet of things. 28 00:01:05.159 --> 00:01:07.239 Oh yeah, the whole level of conspiracy, how it all 29 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:08.280 comes together and whatnot. 30 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:11.760 M hm, cool, cool, All right, all right, we are back. 31 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:14.239 We had to fiddle with the screen a little bit. Okay, 32 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:16.760 we're back, Okay, so hell yeah, that's what's up. We 33 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:19.799 are into that same kind of thing. I feel like 34 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:22.640 the topic we're going to get into today, Madam Blavoski, 35 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:25.840 Nephelem giants, all that stuff. It's like a missing puzzle 36 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:27.959 piece for me because I kind of been floating all 37 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:32.239 over the spiritual conspiracy kind of roadmap, and I never 38 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:35.239 knew where the Nephlim giants and the watchers and all 39 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:36.879 that came into play because a lot of people talk 40 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:37.640 about that stuff. 41 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:39.120 How much do you know about that stuff? 42 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:42.480 I'd like to think that I know a decent amount, 43 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:43.640 you know. 44 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:46.280 I h at one point, you know, got kind of 45 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:48.879 deep into the Are you familiar with mainly Pete Hall 46 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:50.040 Secret Teachings. 47 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:50.239 Of All Ages? 48 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:51.439 Yep, yes, sir, yes, sir. 49 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:54.239 Okay, So that kind of started, well, first he started 50 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:54.879 with Bill Cooper. 51 00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:57.680 Of course, he kind of he was my red pill daddy, 52 00:01:57.680 --> 00:01:59.599 as they say, kind. 53 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:03.799 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's right, man, that's the guy to 54 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:04.239 start with. 55 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.760 For sure. The Mystery Babylon series. 56 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:09.319 Definitely got me going on that, so it kind of 57 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:15.199 I have a skeptical outlook on this Theosophical Society, okay, 58 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:18.599 kind of you know, Yeah, it's just slightly skeptical because 59 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:20.360 I do think there's something to a lot of their work. 60 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:23.280 Of course, it's gotta be truth within the exception if 61 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:24.919 there is any Yeah, yeah, you know. 62 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:27.960 Yeah, me personally, I had I had a personal spiritual 63 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.759 awakening and that all ties to like ancient Egypt and 64 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.599 Atlantis and and that kind of all ties into like 65 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:36.360 the story. And once I started to really read into 66 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:39.439 like the Secret Doctrine and Madame Lavoski and Rudolph Steiner 67 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:41.360 and all that kind of stuff, it started to put 68 00:02:41.400 --> 00:02:44.439 the puzzle pieces together in for me. So that's why 69 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:46.599 I brought that up. But anyways, how much do you 70 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:48.439 know about theosophy in general? 71 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:50.039 Yeah? 72 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:53.199 Man, I've been reading about it for a while, so 73 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:56.280 I kind of understand that at the core of it, 74 00:02:57.520 --> 00:02:59.759 you know, it kind of leads into luciferior in philosophy, at 75 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:04.000 least it is very vulnerable to that philosophy, but it 76 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:07.639 does have a lot of very cool, cool kind of 77 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:12.400 thought thought experiments involved with it that, like you know, 78 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:14.240 like how they say that, you know, we were a 79 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:17.199 theoric beings in the beginning, and then that's kind of 80 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:18.639 what what Adam's. 81 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:21.159 Fall is, right, and so you know, that's that's fun 82 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:21.960 to think about, you know. 83 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.639 And also like the idea of us being androgynists, you know, 84 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:27.400 male and female in the beginning, and that kind of 85 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:32.000 gets into the whole Greek Greek story about how there 86 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:34.919 was a male and female God was actually mad at 87 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:38.840 them because they were stronger than he was, right, because 88 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:42.080 they had that balance of female male principles on lock 89 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:44.719 to the point where even God was jealous, and then 90 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:48.439 they he separated them after that, And that's cool to 91 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:51.599 think about. I wonder about that, you know, but you know, 92 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:54.080 it takes away the idea. It takes away the idea 93 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:56.360 it kind of put it kind of gives them this idea, 94 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:58.599 like it gives way to evolution more than it does 95 00:03:58.639 --> 00:03:59.479 creation theory. 96 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:02.400 Look at it that way, can explain what do you 97 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:02.879 mean by that? 98 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:08.400 So like evolution, you can't really explain how like male 99 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:11.719 and female just ended up on Earth even through evolution. Well, 100 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:14.680 how did it end up getting to the point where 101 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:17.839 you know, human male female? Okay, So I mean I 102 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:19.839 guess they've done it through animals, But then we still 103 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:21.519 have that kind of thing in the DNA that they 104 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:24.800 can't explain the space where they are, like, where did 105 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:28.240 that come from? The novel piece of our DNA. That's 106 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:30.279 what leaves way to this whole idea that we were 107 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:34.199 genetically engineered by the Inunaki, right, and that you know, 108 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:37.399 white people come from yakub Right. That's the whole Black 109 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:38.279 Islam part of it. 110 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:40.920 I love it, man. There's so many different versions. 111 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:42.639 So many layers and perspectives from it. 112 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:46.879 The reason I like it is because I think the 113 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:50.680 whole evolution thing, we're taught to understand that we were 114 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:55.160 just physical beings from the beginning, but this theory kind 115 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:58.480 of gives way to not only does it support mentalism 116 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:00.839 that this whole reality is created through our minds, but 117 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:03.439 it also gives way to the fact that we weren't 118 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:07.199 always physical beings. We were conscious and etheric beings at first, 119 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:09.879 and as we evolved into matter, like you said, that's 120 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:12.079 what the atom's fall was and all that kind of stuff, 121 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:14.240 And it kind of gives away for the syncretism, and 122 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:16.160 that's kind of what theosophy is to me. She's kind 123 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:18.480 of taking all these secret teachings from religions and kind 124 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:22.000 of putting into in a coupendium of knowledge and telling 125 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:25.079 this story that says, hey, we weren't always just monkeys 126 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:27.480 and we're on this Rocket's actually that we were actually 127 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:30.120 energy and thought forms and we fell into matter. So 128 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.720 that's what really interests me more about it because it 129 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:35.639 kind of tells this story of the evolution of spirit 130 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:38.680 and consciousness as opposed to the evolution of us in 131 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:40.920 like physical matter, if that makes sense, and that I 132 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.920 guess that kind of answers the puzzle piece between us 133 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:47.480 being you know, you know, apes going into like Homo 134 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:50.720 sapiens or that whatever that missing pieces, you know what 135 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:51.399 I'm saying. 136 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:53.199 Oh, definitely, definitely. 137 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:55.720 So I do have a question, how would you just said, so, 138 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:58.240 whenever you take that new account, what do you think 139 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.360 it means? Whenever, like, what is the part of this 140 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:03.920 story meme whenever they say, you know, eat from the apple, 141 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:07.199 you'll become God right in Genesis, you know, So we 142 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:09.319 do take the idea of nephilims from Genesis, So we. 143 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:11.120 Got to take some yeah, yea, yeah, yeah. 144 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:15.240 The Bible is some historical absolute something, right, So I 145 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:17.480 wonder what you think, who was that? 146 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:18.519 What was that? Well? 147 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:20.720 You know, well, we first got to ask ourselves. We're 148 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:23.720 gonna talk about genesis. Do we believe that humanity all 149 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:25.240 came from two sets of people? 150 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:26.120 You know what I mean? 151 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:28.360 Because we have this thing in our genes now where 152 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:30.319 if you have sex with your brother, your cousin, your 153 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:32.639 baby's gonna come out not so well in the head, 154 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:34.480 you know what I mean. So we really have to 155 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:38.120 ask ourselves. Did humanity really all stem from two people? 156 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:42.040 Or is that an allegorical story for our consciousness splitting 157 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:47.399 from a you know, androgynous energy into physical matter that's 158 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:49.839 male and female. Because when you get into the root races, 159 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:52.920 you get into Lumeria and Atlantis, and they're explaining that 160 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:55.079 I guess that's where the giant's parts come in. I 161 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:57.000 have some notes to read on that, but they were 162 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:00.680 saying that between Loumeria and Atlantis, the beings were androgynists 163 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:03.720 and then they split into male and female. And this 164 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:07.680 whole story also correlates with how we used to procreate. 165 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:10.000 I guess as ethero beings. We used to like bud 166 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:12.759 or like procreate like amba, and then eventually once we 167 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:16.600 became male and female, that's what happened when we started 168 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:18.279 to have like sex and all that stuff. And I 169 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:20.920 guess that goes into the whole story of like free 170 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:23.360 will and the story of genesis. So to me, it 171 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:28.240 sounds like Genesis is like the story of mankind and physicality, 172 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:30.560 but it's not the beginning of the story, like we're 173 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:32.319 taught to believe, you know what I mean. 174 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:35.319 So that's my idea of Bill. What do you think 175 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:35.720 about that? 176 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:38.600 I do. I do think there's some weight to that. 177 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:41.439 I wonder who the adversary is in this situation, because 178 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:44.160 there definitely is one somewhere. Yeah, when you look into 179 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.279 this esoteric philosophy, right yeah, And so I always try 180 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:49.279 to look at it like the tree, you know, you know, 181 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:52.279 it's tree by its fruits, right yeah. And so for instance, 182 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:54.519 there's a book called I don't know if you've ever 183 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:56.399 seen it, spy, I've got it up here. It's by 184 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:59.120 Mark Booth. It's called The Secret History of the World. 185 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:04.920 I definitely recommend uh. It goes right into this philosophy, 186 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:07.360 and I'll quickly break down what it says. It's just 187 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:09.600 like the Secret Doctrine, but I feel like it's more 188 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:11.759 digestible than the Secret Doctrine. 189 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:13.720 Okay, okay, claims didn't. 190 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:15.319 Go ahead, please go ahead? 191 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:16.279 No, no, no, you're good. 192 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:20.959 Both claims that there's an esoteric tradition sometimes called the 193 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:24.199 perennial philosophy, right, and that's essentially you know what we're 194 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:27.560 talking about. Uh, it's been secretly passed down through mystery 195 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:32.360 schools Egyptian, Lucient Elysian, and the Pythagorean cults. 196 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:32.600 Right. 197 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:36.519 You got the Alchemical Brotherhood, secret societies for Mason's Rose 198 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:42.080 Recrusion Illuminati. So that's yeah, and they have the hidden knowledge, right, 199 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:44.639 and that's why they're the that's why they're the adepts, 200 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:47.919 and where they're profane. Yes, yes, yes, led to slaughter, 201 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:52.519 led to slaughter by our own essentially our own will, 202 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:55.559 because we choose not to use our minds for higher 203 00:08:55.600 --> 00:09:00.679 conscious thinking. Right. So I just get worried times though 204 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.240 that that leads way to this elitism kind of. 205 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:06.279 Sure, right, yeah. 206 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:07.559 So I just wonder about that, like how do you 207 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:09.799 how do you walk this line when you're reading about 208 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:11.879 this stuff and working with this and then also you 209 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:15.759 know that there's that aspect, right, Yeah, so I wonder, Yeah. 210 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:19.600 When we talked about this on on Tinfoil hat and 211 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:22.240 this is my this is why I like the perennial 212 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:25.279 philosophy because it's some sort of underlying code. 213 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:27.919 And you talked about the adversary, especially like. 214 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:30.879 In the in the Garden of Eden's story with you 215 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:33.279 have like the snake and whatnot and the very and 216 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:35.559 made a video about this, and I think I talked 217 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:37.360 a little bit about on tinfoil add about it. But 218 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:41.240 the very interesting thing about kabbala and narcissism is they're 219 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:44.360 both drawing from this this story or these teachings that 220 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:46.200 were it's pretty much judaic, you. 221 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:47.759 Know what I mean, Old Testament, New Testament. 222 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:51.000 But the funny thing about narcissism and kabala is the 223 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:54.799 Gnostics are basically rejecting the Old Testament and they're saying 224 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.240 that the snake in the garden was a malevolent being that. 225 00:09:58.200 --> 00:09:59.480 Gave knowledge to mankind. 226 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:02.759 Now Judaism is the reverse, where they're saying the snake 227 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:07.519 is actually the malevolent being. And they use the secret 228 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:11.440 teachings of the Old Testament. Now because they have differences 229 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:14.799 we're gonna look at the similarities. The similarity is they 230 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:17.679 all agree that this physical realm is an illusion and 231 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:20.960 we all come from the absolute now. Basically, their perspectives 232 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:23.240 are different because think about it. In the story of Batman, 233 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:25.279 you just basically have one side saying, no. 234 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:26.240 The Joker is a good guy. 235 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:28.279 The Joker is a good guy, he's actually better, and 236 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:31.279 then you have someone else saying, no, actually, Batman's a 237 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.399 good guy. So it's like they're both drawing from the 238 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:36.080 same kind of story, but they're getting different perspectives from it, 239 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.600 you know what I mean. So as far as walking 240 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:41.639 the line when going through this knowledge and stuff like that, 241 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:45.919 to me, I kind of just go with whatever the 242 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:48.759 intention and the energy is or whatever I'm learning and 243 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:51.320 applying or whatever. Like if I'm ever in a black 244 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:54.000 hood spilling Gold's blood and drawing a pentagram on the floor, 245 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:55.440 you know what I mean, like, slap the fuck out 246 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:58.440 of me, you know what I mean. But, like you said, 247 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:01.559 there's elites they know this knowledge. It would be within 248 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:03.759 our benefit if we would figure out to know what 249 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:05.759 they know, why they know it, how they use it 250 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:08.080 to their advantage. That way we can protect ourselves when 251 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:09.399 we need to Yep, you know what. 252 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:12.039 Exactly, I do agree. I do agree with that. 253 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:12.679 You know. 254 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:15.639 And then you know, I I do think that a 255 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:17.799 Catholic Church, I think is like, you know, there's a 256 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:20.559 book called The Two Babylons, and I believe the Catholic 257 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:22.639 Church is supposed to be like the one against the 258 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.440 secret societies and this Luciferian cult. But I think they're 259 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:28.320 really the same thing. They're just leading people into. Yeah, 260 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:29.240 it's like the same. 261 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:32.759 But then there's something within Christianity though, that is legit. 262 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:33.200 You know. 263 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:36.120 I want to look at Jesus. Yeah, and Jesus could 264 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:38.639 be like an ascended master to look at it. But 265 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:40.480 I mean, you know a lot of people will get 266 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:42.200 mad at that, you know, and be like, no, he's 267 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:44.159 want the one, the one. 268 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:46.559 True, you know. And I understand that thought. 269 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:48.600 I get that, But at the same time, it's like, 270 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:51.440 how do we we don't have proof that, yeah, you know, 271 00:11:51.639 --> 00:11:54.919 Christna and everybody else wasn't essentially kind of the same person. 272 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:56.759 I mean, we don't. We don't know, like the same. 273 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:59.879 Maybe I don't know my historical timeline well enough to know. 274 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:01.679 I'm pretty sure they're probably saying. 275 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:04.799 Yeah, the way I see it is we're we're within this. 276 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.799 I know we're in a similar simulation, right, So I 277 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:09.679 kind of see it as like think of like like 278 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:11.840 I was watching like fucking I love bringing up Batman 279 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:14.080 and making this the analogy. I was watching Batman anime, 280 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:15.720 Batman Ninja or something like. 281 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:17.279 That, and you really think about it. You have these 282 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:18.399 different versions of Batman. 283 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:20.360 It might be it might be his parents that got killed, 284 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:21.840 it might be Alfred that got killed, it might be 285 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:25.240 have these different stories, but they all essentially, like I said, 286 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.799 have the same underlying code which is embedded within our 287 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:30.799 fabric of our reality. So when someone talks about Krishna 288 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:32.879 and on another continent that they're talking about, yes, you 289 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.759 it could definitely be the same energetic being on a 290 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:38.000 higher dimension that just gets manifested to us in a 291 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:39.159 different way on this dimension. 292 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:42.399 You know what I mean that that nation experience. 293 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:46.759 Yes, Yes, everybody experiences their version of the same thing. 294 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:47.759 I do what you're saying. 295 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:49.879 You know, we have this thing on my show that 296 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:51.759 we kind of went through where it was like, all right, 297 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:54.960 synostissism teachers, that we're stuck in this prison planet and 298 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:59.320 we have to ascend through getting rid of our passions, 299 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:02.159 right or inner passions like lust and greed and all 300 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:04.840 these different things and kind of become above it. So 301 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:07.200 and then it teaches that you know, once you get 302 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:13.120 to the top everything else. So I okay, So if 303 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:17.679 we aren't in a prison planet, okay, and we believe 304 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:20.879 that that we are because of this teaching, and then 305 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:22.240 we create something that. 306 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:24.320 Say like like this is. 307 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:26.879 What I believe they're doing with this whole like holographic reality, 308 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:31.279 plug ourselves in technocratic thing. I think that they're tapping 309 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:35.919 into these demiurge entities and they're getting this through a 310 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:39.080 Nokia Magic and all this stuff. They're getting this information 311 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:41.960 for the technology so that way they can put us 312 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:44.559 in a prison planet that we can't lead. They were 313 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:49.120 stuck in Perpetua, recycle our souls and then they recycle 314 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:52.159 us and then we really are stuck. So through the 315 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:54.519 belief that we are stuck here, now we could be 316 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:58.000 creating something that will get us stuck here. Because Peter 317 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:00.000 Teel says, he like I showed you saw that video 318 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:02.000 I put up Peter Teal talking about how he's trying 319 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.320 to prevent the Antichrist through. 320 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:05.759 Creating this technology. 321 00:14:06.919 --> 00:14:10.240 Antichrist I'm like, this is the inversion that the Antichrist 322 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:13.720 would bring in if it was to be a manifested thing, right, 323 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:15.960 So yeah, that was that was our thought. 324 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.559 I was telling him on one of our past episode 325 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:21.320 that Peter tails the anagram for the reptile. 326 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:28.000 So if you're yeah, there's plenty of a pasty white skin, 327 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.919 Bill gates him Zuckerberg, they have this oddly weird skin, 328 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:32.360 you know. 329 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:34.799 Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's it's it's it's. 330 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:39.320 Like clammy pasty, Yeahwady, Yeah, you know, it's it's odd. 331 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:40.240 It's Yeah. 332 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:41.559 I wanted to I want to bring it back to 333 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:47.240 what you said about uh narcissism, and I think it 334 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:49.480 brings it back to a point of perspective because you 335 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:52.200 said it's like, you know, they're basically saying you got 336 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:54.399 to purify the spirit, and you know, like you said, 337 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:57.080 you I think you were talking about, you know, the 338 00:14:57.159 --> 00:14:59.840 lust and cleansing your spirit of lust and all those 339 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:02.519 and we talked about a little bit on tenfoil Hat 340 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:06.399 and it's the same thing in Buddhism and Hinduism, same 341 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.240 thing in Kabbali. You're basically cleansing your spirit in order 342 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:12.639 to exit the realm. But in narcissism, they have this 343 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:15.120 perspective that we're stuck here. It's a prison planet, you 344 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:19.159 know what I mean. So all of these different they're 345 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:21.440 all saying the same thing. They just have different perspectives 346 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:24.200 on what the situation is, you know what I mean. 347 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.200 That's why I tried, Like you said, I tried to. 348 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:29.720 I love narcissism, but I just hate their perspective that 349 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:31.919 they're saying, we're stuck here and we're here against. 350 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.080 Our will, you know what I mean. 351 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:37.399 Because when you get into mentalism, it's basically states that 352 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:40.159 we all come from one source consciousness. So to me, 353 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:42.519 when you're in the reincarnation trap, I don't know if 354 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:43.639 you watch Rick and Morty or not. 355 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:45.840 Do you watch that's oh yeah. 356 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:47.960 So they have that video game roy where you're so 357 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.159 immersing the video game where it's just like a simulation. 358 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:53.799 So to me, reincarnation is like you're at the end 359 00:15:53.799 --> 00:15:56.159 of the video game and it's like boom, you died. 360 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:58.039 You want to restart, and it's like. 361 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:00.159 Fuck, I didn't get to finish all the things I 362 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:01.559 wanted to at all, so I got to go back 363 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:03.320 and do it again. Yeah, And that's the same thing 364 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:05.600 as cleansing your chakras, and it's the same thing as 365 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:07.639 getting rid of your karma, and it's the same thing 366 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:10.639 as purifying the spirit and narcissism or getting rid of 367 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:15.720 the archonsin So that's why the perennial philosophy resonates with me, 368 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.840 because it's kind of like this underlying code to every religion, 369 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:21.559 but everybody has their different perspectives on it, and that's 370 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:27.480 where you get the different nominations of like kabbala and narcissism, Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism. 371 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:28.000 And all that stuff, you know what I mean. 372 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:30.639 Definitely, definitely I could see that. I could see that. 373 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:34.159 And also you know they, I guess they say that 374 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.399 like the whole point we come here to try to 375 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:40.039 remember that we chose to come here, right, So that's 376 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:42.720 the point is to remember. And you know, Alan Watts 377 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:44.960 did a great job at breaking down a lot of 378 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.919 that kind of thought process. Now I do wonder though, uh, 379 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:53.159 within like within the Bible, it does talk about if 380 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:55.120 you're to take any of it seriously, it does. 381 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:59.159 Talk about kind of not like counting. 382 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:02.039 This star all right, So I try to boil this 383 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:04.200 down to the bare bones of it is what I'm 384 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:04.839 trying to say. 385 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:06.880 So I always try to look at Okay, what does 386 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:09.119 this warn, what does this kind of give. 387 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:12.519 I'm sure there's truth within the hermetic philosophy one hundred percent. 388 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:15.319 I do think that there's also deception to get you 389 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:17.799 to believe that you are God, and I don't believe 390 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:18.720 that that is real. 391 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:23.279 I believe that there is a there is a piece of. 392 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.680 You right, that it's eternal that you can connect with. 393 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:29.720 I don't believe that it makes you God right, and 394 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:31.960 I believe that on the on the flip side of that, though, 395 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:35.279 magic in a sense is real because you can manipulate 396 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:39.200 nature right, and manipulate nature to the point of, uh, 397 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:41.799 you know, working in your will. I don't believe there's 398 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:43.720 any way to really do it where it's in God's will. 399 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:45.319 I think the only way you can really do magic 400 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:47.920 is in your will because you're choosing to do it right. 401 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:52.200