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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to kf

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<v Speaker 1>I AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 1>demand on the iHeartRadio app. It's rare I go to Starbucks,

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<v Speaker 1>but today I did this morning and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then put a creature.

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<v Speaker 3>There was no creature.

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<v Speaker 1>It said hi, just high, no exclamation point, just h I,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was kind of creepy because I've gotten hearts,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've gotten high exclamation point and I've gotten a

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<v Speaker 1>happy face. But this was the first time I just

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<v Speaker 1>said hi, no punctuity, no punctuation, and it felt a

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<v Speaker 1>little serial killer e to me. However, the woman at

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<v Speaker 1>the window said, here you go, sweetie, and I loved that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start off every morning with some stranger

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<v Speaker 1>calling me sweetie.

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<v Speaker 4>That is very funny because yesterday on Fox News Channel

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<v Speaker 4>there was a whole blow up. Randy Weingarten, the head

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<v Speaker 4>of the Teachers Union the National Teachers Union, referred to

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<v Speaker 4>Martha McCallum as sweetheart, and Martha McCallum hated it. Now

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<v Speaker 4>granted situation, she was being super condescending. Martha McCollums like, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, call me sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 1>See, but that makes it worse for her. When someone

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<v Speaker 1>calls you sweetheart, you got to just laugh it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Gregor used to do that. Oh sweetheart, you just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta laugh it off.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>If you take umbrage with it, if you take issue

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<v Speaker 1>with it, then you are.

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<v Speaker 4>The the lily makes it worse. You know, we should

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<v Speaker 4>do that as a talkback. Actually is what is your

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<v Speaker 4>love it?

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<v Speaker 3>I love movie called sweetheart?

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<v Speaker 2>Sweetie doesn't have to be Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 4>But in a place where they ask your name, do

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<v Speaker 4>you give him your real name or do you give

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<v Speaker 4>him something like now?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, since they have a high on your head.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a real hard time with people who use

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<v Speaker 1>fake names like you seem like the kind of person

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<v Speaker 1>that would do that. You do that with your stupid

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<v Speaker 1>email addresses and stupid stuff like you're very private?

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<v Speaker 3>I know, but why who the hell are you? What

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, who are you? Why would you hide your identity.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I didn't want to be found out.

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<v Speaker 1>People like Starbucks like Dave Bruce just tell him Bruce, tell.

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<v Speaker 4>Him name because they want to hear their they want

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<v Speaker 4>to hear the barista call out a funny name.

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<v Speaker 3>That's stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I'm just saying there are plenty of people

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<v Speaker 2>who do it.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>You've never done that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think I've ever used a fake name kick

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<v Speaker 4>or like at a hotel or whatever. I'm sorry for

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<v Speaker 4>profiling you incorrectly.

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<v Speaker 2>Very strange. Listen, I like your outfit. Thanks. President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has said has said.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe he is ready to pull back on some of

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<v Speaker 4>those tariffs on China.

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<v Speaker 5>One hundred and forty five percent is very high, and

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<v Speaker 5>it won't be that high.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to be that high.

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<v Speaker 5>It'll come down to substay and three. But it won't

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<v Speaker 5>be zero. He used to be zero.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just destroyed.

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<v Speaker 5>China was taking us for a ride and just not

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<v Speaker 5>gonna have It's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 4>So the Wall Street Journal got on this and said

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<v Speaker 4>that the plan that is likely going to happen mirror

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<v Speaker 4>is one that was introduced by the House late last year.

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<v Speaker 2>This would be a tiered approach.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty five percent levees items that are not considered a

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<v Speaker 4>threat to national security, but at least one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 4>on those that are eased down over five years. One

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<v Speaker 4>White House official told the Wall Street Journal the result

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<v Speaker 4>would be an overall tariff somewhere between a China tariff

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<v Speaker 4>roughly between fifty and sixty five percent.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the endgame that we're dealing with here.

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<v Speaker 1>I still find it fascinating that Wall Street reacts to

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<v Speaker 1>all the whims of this president. And I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>have to because he is a president of the United States. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you're reacting to the title making these calls, not the

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<v Speaker 1>person behind the title, because we have said said from

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<v Speaker 1>go that this is not tenable.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a tenable situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and if Scott Bessen, I mean, if the Secretary

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<v Speaker 4>of the Treasury says these exact same words and he

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<v Speaker 4>has it doesn't make a tenth the impact on Wall

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<v Speaker 4>Street that it does when a president says it. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>other presidents had been more careful and measured when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to things like talking about the Fed Reserve chair

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<v Speaker 4>or something like that, because they know that it could

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<v Speaker 4>have an impact significantly on Wall Street and the way

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<v Speaker 4>people view American stocks and bonds.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's also said he didn't feel the need to play

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<v Speaker 1>hardball with Hi Jinping.

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<v Speaker 4>This is yeah, that language is just hey, we're just

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<v Speaker 4>friends having a little bit of a dispute here over what.

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<v Speaker 4>But then he'll talk about how it feels like China

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<v Speaker 4>has been taking advantage of the United States for decades,

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<v Speaker 4>which which is very different then, but we don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to be we don't have to get we don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to be nasty to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a tactic, right, you come out and you're

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<v Speaker 1>super nasty, and then you dial back again, leaving the

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<v Speaker 1>door open for maybe a friendship, hoping to lure that

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<v Speaker 1>person into the cave of negotiation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea. Then it gives you.

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<v Speaker 4>The card to play like, well, friends don't treat each

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<v Speaker 4>other like this, right, we're friends, you know. A healthy

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<v Speaker 4>competition is the way we should be going. Right, There

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<v Speaker 4>is something that kind of happening on the back end.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very quiet that's going on in DC, but it

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<v Speaker 4>could potentially signal the opening of talks, sort of the

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<v Speaker 4>opening round the capital of China. Beijing has sent People's

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<v Speaker 4>Bank of China's governor, his deputy, and a finance minister.

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<v Speaker 4>Those three guys are all in DC this week and

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<v Speaker 4>they are going to be hosting meetings of the World

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<v Speaker 4>Bank Group and the International Monetary Fund. They're saying simply

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<v Speaker 4>because we will see high level Chinese officials with high

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<v Speaker 4>level American officials in the same place at the same time.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's sort of an exchange of the contours of it,

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<v Speaker 4>of an agreement at some point, So maybe that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>there is progress.

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<v Speaker 1>I am cracking up over the media coverage of the

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<v Speaker 1>Pope's death. Everyone is suddenly a Catholic. Everybody cares about

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<v Speaker 1>the Catholics. Everybody treating this with the utmost reverence. People

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<v Speaker 1>talking about mike Langelo's Pieta, talking about the Chamber of

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<v Speaker 1>Deputies kneeling before the coffin, and the Italian Parliament lower house, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, nobody cares.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that the eighty percent of this country is

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<v Speaker 1>church going, what percentage of that is Catholic?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? And everyone's is acting like.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just such the biggest deal, and they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>not to butcher the names and things that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really care about.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the Catholic guilt has.

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<v Speaker 1>Permeated the entire country, like y'all that did sit through

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<v Speaker 1>it the way we all sat through it and feel

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<v Speaker 1>guilty over every single thing. Suddenly the Pope dies and

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<v Speaker 1>you're all getting a little dose of what we lived through.

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<v Speaker 2>Walking with the Rosary.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from

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<v Speaker 5>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey Gary and Shannon.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey Gary.

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<v Speaker 6>Question, did you we hear speedo under your clothes when

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<v Speaker 6>you had swim practice in the morning? Buddy, I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>curious day man.

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is no.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we unpack that for a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't talked about being on the swim team in

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<v Speaker 1>high school for quite some time. That's ratnel around, rattle

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<v Speaker 1>in around in his brain. Ye, thinking about you and

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<v Speaker 1>your speedo. I would imagine that you brought your speedo

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<v Speaker 1>with you and he changed in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 4>Before practice and then changed out of it. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>because it was wet. Yeah, I don't know what the guy,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why you wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand, but everyone's visualizing you as a teenager

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<v Speaker 1>great speedo underneath your street clothes.

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<v Speaker 4>But to clarify, in practice, I would always wear multiple

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<v Speaker 4>I wore two or three excuse me, speedos and then

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<v Speaker 4>trunks over the top of it. Really create more drag,

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<v Speaker 4>big pockets and everything like that, so that when you

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<v Speaker 4>on when you'd have a meat, most of them on

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<v Speaker 4>Thursdays on Thursday afternoon, you would just wear your skit.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't just penis modesty.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you put a lot of layers on top of

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<v Speaker 1>that thing, keep it safe, keep it away from the

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<v Speaker 1>public eye.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was fifteen, there probably was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of that. S mentioned it.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, if I had one of those, I would totally

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<v Speaker 1>wear like sixteen speedos, probably into my mid twenties.

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<v Speaker 4>Latin chants have been sounding across the Vatican. This procession

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<v Speaker 4>of red hatted cardinals and bishops, et cetera accompanied Pope

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<v Speaker 4>Francis's body from his residency out to Saint Peter's Basilica.

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<v Speaker 3>Sy, you're a glam squad that goes along with.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I'm going to get in trouble, but I've paid

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<v Speaker 1>my dues. Is there a glam squad that goes along

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<v Speaker 1>with the body to touch up the powdering and the makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume that's a yes. You got to keep

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<v Speaker 1>that body looking freshly powdered.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I I don't know how. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>sort of preservation is equipment, no spackle, spackling. You know

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<v Speaker 4>he died at the age of eighty eight. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't take long for the body to change very

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<v Speaker 4>quickly in.

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<v Speaker 2>Depth.

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<v Speaker 1>How often are open caskets these days? Are they still

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<v Speaker 1>as common?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, I don't. I don't know. That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't remember the last time I went to

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<v Speaker 1>an open casket.

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<v Speaker 4>I did one twenty years ago, probably soon after my

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<v Speaker 4>wife and I were married, so probably closer to twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five years ago. I was a good friend of ours,

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<v Speaker 4>someone I went to college with ended up being a

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<v Speaker 4>weird confluence of events.

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<v Speaker 2>But her younger brother was killed a motorcycle accident.

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<v Speaker 4>How old twenty oh, god, twenty one, and and they

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<v Speaker 4>did an open casket and it was.

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<v Speaker 3>A casket because of the injuries. Oh my god, that's awful.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just, I mean, I can, to this day

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<v Speaker 4>close my eyes and see john'son like, see the face.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's just it's so sad.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, it's such an awful, heartbreaking because it's

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<v Speaker 4>a young guy, and it was a it was a

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<v Speaker 4>bad accident.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't have to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>It just awful, awful, awful, And then to see that

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<v Speaker 4>as part of the whole day.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the funeral is just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>I had gone to a lot of funerals. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Still, and I remember seeing him in they had an

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<v Speaker 1>late seventies, eighties. They were ancient. You know, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>You know my cousins were on the same age, and

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<v Speaker 4>They say that the funeral itself will be on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're getting up early to watch it, it's

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<v Speaker 3>Are you going to get it?

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<v Speaker 2>Every Saturday morning?

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna put on your robes?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I mean, are your speedo, no, not even my

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<v Speaker 1>Is it gonna be in Latin? This is it's gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be in Latin, right, it's a pope's funeral. Although he

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they would do that.

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<v Speaker 3>They've got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know the rules, but I would think,

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<v Speaker 1>let me look that up.

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<v Speaker 4>There is also a memorial mass here in La they

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<v Speaker 4>say with it will honor the life and the ministry

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<v Speaker 4>Pope Francis. It's going to be Friday, of course, downtown

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<v Speaker 4>Archdiocese of La has announced that the special service will

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<v Speaker 4>Ac Comes will also be joined by some auxiliary bishops

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<v Speaker 4>the next couple of weeks, we're going to do a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of stories about the potential leaders in the clubhouse

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to those bishops that could become the

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<v Speaker 4>if it is very different from what Pope Francis did.

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<v Speaker 2>As the pope for the last several years.

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness, I'm just going through the protocol. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>a playbook for the funeral. Oh yeah, it's a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>page playbook. It's called the University Dominicis, which is Latin

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<v Speaker 1>for the shepherd of the Lord's whole flock.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, think of when the queen died, I mean, when

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<v Speaker 4>the queen or when the prince right, it's the same bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same bit. Is that part of our fascination

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<v Speaker 1>as a country.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that, Yes, I was going to say that,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that there is a certain amount of I

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<v Speaker 4>mean you're talking about everybody's been affected by this, Catholic

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<v Speaker 4>or not. There's something about us as big meat bags

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<v Speaker 4>that like to see some amount of history, tradition, and

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's science. We're biologically wired to be connected to

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<v Speaker 1>our past, Yeah, and to tradition like that, and.

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<v Speaker 4>This tradition goes back a couple thousand years.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I would like to do. I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to know you got really nervous with your face right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Oftentimes, usually that question is answered with I'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Like to burn it down. I'd just like to burn it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't sound like candle shoot it first of all.

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<v Speaker 2>Shoot it and then burn it.

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<v Speaker 1>I am coming from a positive place today, okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we need a tradition on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>This show has been around ten years, which is an eternity. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had traditions. What coming gone well, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>right right, you know, I don't know. I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we don't pay homage to our traditions here on

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<v Speaker 2>Enough. Michael Monks is going to join us we come back.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Okay, we spend a lot of homeless money, and

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<v Speaker 4>then we also don't spend a lot of homeless money.

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<v Speaker 4>Five hundred some odd million dollars that was not spent,

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<v Speaker 4>and finally someone in city Hall goes, hey, uh, I

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<v Speaker 4>got an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>We maybe just like, look at where the money goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Monks has been on top of this, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>continue to follow all of the news regarding the whole

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<v Speaker 1>less out a City Hall Hill join us when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Monks has joined us because we continue to track

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in downtown LA when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>all the homeless dollars we have as voters have sent

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<v Speaker 1>this way towards the county or the city, and it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like yesterday the council called for analysis of the spending.

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<v Speaker 3>You would think that this would be done.

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<v Speaker 1>That the voters would approve a bond or a tax

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<v Speaker 1>or what have you, and that all of the money

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<v Speaker 1>would be accounted for and you'd know exactly where it

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<v Speaker 1>was going, and that's what you do when other people

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<v Speaker 1>give you their money.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently that was not being done.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they've decided unanimously twelve nothing that they are going

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, and apologize.

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<v Speaker 4>I spoke before I was introduced that's a faux pas so,

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<v Speaker 4>but you were talking ice cream sandwiches.

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<v Speaker 3>So no, everyone who as you are, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I wouldn't note that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, the council voted yesterday to say maybe we should,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, have a presentation every now and then

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<v Speaker 4>on where these moneies are going, because it's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of money and apparently we don't actually know. So that

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<v Speaker 4>was the first thing they did. But there was also

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<v Speaker 4>an example of this playing out separate from this vote.

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<v Speaker 4>They voted on something else yesterday to get a better

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<v Speaker 4>handle on a program known as time limited Subsidies, and

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<v Speaker 4>that is a government word for basically giving a market

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<v Speaker 4>rate apartment to a homeless person, subsidizing the rent, but

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<v Speaker 4>having that person in a program where they can be

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<v Speaker 4>rehabilitated and within a couple of years or so, be

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<v Speaker 4>able to pay for that apartment on their own. It

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<v Speaker 4>sounds like a pretty solid program, but they invested about

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred ninety four million dollars in this program, between

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<v Speaker 4>the City of the County and LASA and Councilman Nthia Rahman,

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<v Speaker 4>who's a hardliner on homelessness stuff, as in she's in

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<v Speaker 4>favor of all of the programs and an apologist for

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of the programs. She says, of that one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and ninety four million dollars, we have noticed that

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<v Speaker 4>we haven't spent a lot of it. We've only spent

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere between twenty five and sixty percent of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that alone is a problem because.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't know what they're doing with that.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not spending all of the money that you've allocated

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<v Speaker 4>for this program. They say they don't have the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the social workers, they don't have the landlord's willing to

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<v Speaker 2>That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>But to me, the bigger problem was, what do you

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<v Speaker 4>mean between twenty five and sixty percent?

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<v Speaker 2>Quite a swath it is, you know, it's not twenty

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty, you know, because they don't know what they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>with money. These aren't money people. These are people that

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<v Speaker 1>are our whorees that decided to get into politics to

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<v Speaker 1>benefit themselves. They they don't have any real money. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to spend it. It's like giving a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one year old athlete a multimillion dollar contract and saying

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<v Speaker 1>you've got all this money, go make great use of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like, I don't know what to do with it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what's happening at city council.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have anybody like Rick Caruso, for example, who

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<v Speaker 1>knows money to come in and triage the money situation.

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<v Speaker 4>And again, and I think we've even spent about it

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<v Speaker 4>together on this program, that if the results were obvious

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<v Speaker 4>and not just occasional presentations every year about how the

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<v Speaker 4>homeless population is dipped a percent or two, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>in raw numbers, I think people would be more forgiving,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like, yeah, it's expensive to do this, but

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<v Speaker 4>the progress isn't right that you know. I have five

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<v Speaker 4>new tents outside my apartment building this week. Skid row

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<v Speaker 4>has now come in bled out into the fashion district

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<v Speaker 4>and as of this week, five new tents that are

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<v Speaker 4>loud blocking the sidewalk, and it looks terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right if we saw some change, if we

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<v Speaker 1>saw them using the money correctly. Just give me a

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<v Speaker 1>couple examples and we'll publicize it all day long. If

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<v Speaker 1>you can show us constructive ways you've used the money,

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<v Speaker 1>that's been a proof for you to use for this problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Show us on the flip side, all we've seen is

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<v Speaker 1>mismanagement and now them not even using the money because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know how. I mean, it is such a

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big mess.

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<v Speaker 4>And this just calls for a report in sixty days

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<v Speaker 4>on how the money is being spent, and then they

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<v Speaker 4>are to do these reports every quarter about homeless dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>This includes spending by LASA, also by the Mayor's program

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<v Speaker 4>Inside Safe, which has had some relatively secretive finances, so

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<v Speaker 4>we'll maybe get to see a little bit more on this,

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<v Speaker 4>But again, this is a very expensive project. The city

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<v Speaker 4>is now kind of on its own because they don't

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<v Speaker 4>have the county in partnership with them. As up next year,

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<v Speaker 4>the county has voted to leave the LA Homeless Service

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<v Speaker 4>Authority and do its own thing, and I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 4>the city come out with what its plan is.

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<v Speaker 1>The number of homeless people was down this amount from

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<v Speaker 1>year to year twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think think about the number the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of money we're talking about. How many fewer homeless people

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<v Speaker 1>did we have from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think percentage?

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<v Speaker 3>No, sheer number of homeless people?

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<v Speaker 2>No idea. Just take used out a couple of thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>Two hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we've got two hundred people off the street allegedly.

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<v Speaker 1>And how many billions of dollars have we thrown at this?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean part of it is their complete head in

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<v Speaker 1>the sand reluctance to understand the problem of addiction. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that that is something that needs to be dealt with.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was the first housing prices.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not it is not weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, that's exactly what as.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael said, there's programs where they're getting people into homes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I thought yesterday as I pulled into my

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, you know, if you didn't want to live

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<v Speaker 4>in a tent on the street, what do you need.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a drug addict or a drunk, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>there is a program for you. If you need to

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<v Speaker 4>get your education, there is a program for you. And

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<v Speaker 4>if you need to be in a shelter, there is

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be a bed for you somewhere. So why

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<v Speaker 4>are you here on this street unless some degree, if

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<v Speaker 4>you get to.

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<v Speaker 3>What you want to do in that tent.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you go into those programs and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to do a bunch of things that you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do. When we live in a city that makes

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<v Speaker 1>it easy and looks the other way for people to do.

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<v Speaker 3>What they want to do, i e.

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<v Speaker 1>Crack and booze and everything that's bad for you, we

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<v Speaker 1>enable all of it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what it looks like because blocking the sidewalk is

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<v Speaker 4>against the law. I mean, we talk about criminalizing homelessness,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's true that I think all of us have

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<v Speaker 4>our humanity still, Like you feel for the people who

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<v Speaker 4>are in the situation they're in, whether it's chosen or not,

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<v Speaker 4>that you wish their life could be a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're making other people's lives worse by not allowing

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<v Speaker 4>someone in a wheelchair to be able to get by. Thankfully,

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<v Speaker 4>we have a protected bike lane on my streets, so

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<v Speaker 4>we can step into that and not worry about being

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<v Speaker 4>run over.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you get run over by a bike. You

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<v Speaker 2>could get run over by a bike.

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<v Speaker 4>But you can't walk on the sidewalk now because they

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<v Speaker 4>are all blocked by these massive tents which were being

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<v Speaker 4>erected at like three in the morning with power tools

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<v Speaker 4>and wood and rope.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a whole it's a racket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've got a whole situation going on.

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<v Speaker 1>There's infrastructure, just the whole. We have compassion for the

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<v Speaker 1>homeless bull s, but if.

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<v Speaker 2>You try to build wants.

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<v Speaker 1>To live in a tent? You know, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>live in a tent or you pick. It's this time

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<v Speaker 1>of year it's beautiful. I'd like to live in a

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<v Speaker 1>tent and zone out for a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 4>You couldn't set up a card table and sell Michael

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<v Speaker 4>Monk's branded homemade ice cream. I would, Gary, That's not

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<v Speaker 4>even something that I'm thinking about doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Why you could fire some of them to set up

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<v Speaker 3>your I could.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet they could find all the right ingredients.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if if you really LA city leader,

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<v Speaker 1>La City leaders, if you truly have compassion for the homeless,

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<v Speaker 1>you would not be looking the other way. If I

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<v Speaker 1>got to do what part of me wants to do

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<v Speaker 1>and lived in a tent outside Michael Monks's place and

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<v Speaker 1>just do drugs and drink myself away for a couple months,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'd have people coming to get me because

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<v Speaker 1>they actually do have compassion for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd come for you. You could come upstairs, you

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<v Speaker 2>could come in.

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<v Speaker 3>You've probably let me do my drugs in your place.

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<v Speaker 2>If you shared.

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<v Speaker 4>All you guys are friends. I know, dang it, fight

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<v Speaker 4>at all you want? Watching it happen right in front

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<v Speaker 4>of me, and I can't ignore it. Lori Bellow day

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<v Speaker 4>Bell has been convicted. We'll tell you what she got

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<v Speaker 4>popped for when we come back to Michael, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 4>she got popped for.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kf

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<v Speaker 5>I AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 4>Yesterday we told you about the story of the judge

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<v Speaker 4>Jeffrey Ferguson found guilty second degree murder. Was the was

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<v Speaker 4>the final determination. We'll talk more about that story coming

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<v Speaker 4>up next hour. Of course, he's the one who says

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<v Speaker 4>that he stumbled taking his glock out of his ankle

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<v Speaker 4>holster and putting it on the table and just happened

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<v Speaker 4>to kill as one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the jury heard the show yesterday. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it came to, the right decision.

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<v Speaker 2>You're they were listening to it, sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not? Laurie Valo Dabell.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the woman, the blonde woman who has a

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<v Speaker 1>trail of bodies in her wake. She killed her kids,

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<v Speaker 1>She's killed an ex husband or two. She's killed an

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<v Speaker 1>ex wife of an ex husband. I think a brother

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<v Speaker 1>died somewhere along the way. She represented herself at her

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<v Speaker 1>latest legal proceeding and was convicted yesterday in Arizona of

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<v Speaker 1>conspiring to kill her fourth husband, Charles Valow.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she represented herself at trial. She said it was

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<v Speaker 4>her brother that did it, Alex Cox, who shot Charles

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<v Speaker 4>Valow in self defense during an argument or after an argument. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>it was just very convenient that Alex the brother died

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<v Speaker 4>that year from a pulmonary embolism and was never charged.

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<v Speaker 4>You know why, because he's dead, and she probably thought

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<v Speaker 4>to herself, I just I just got off scot free.

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<v Speaker 1>She claimed that her husband got into an argument this

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<v Speaker 1>is really rich with her daughter and threatened her daughter

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<v Speaker 1>with a bat, the daughter that Laurie went on to

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<v Speaker 1>kill because she said her two kids were taken over

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<v Speaker 1>by the demon of the devil Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Prosecutors originally dismissed the case because they said they dismissed

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<v Speaker 4>her self defense claim, arguing that she had several reasons

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<v Speaker 4>to want her husband dead, including her desire to start

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<v Speaker 4>a life with yet another man.

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<v Speaker 1>So the prosecutors laid it out that Lorie Valo that

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<v Speaker 1>she had several reasons for wanting her husband dead, including

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<v Speaker 1>her desire to start a new life with that doomsday guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Chad day Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutor in the case of Lorie Valo wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be Lori da Bell, the wife of Chad day Bell,

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<v Speaker 1>and she wanted to keep the same lifestyle that she

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<v Speaker 1>had with Charles Valo. She could get all of this

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<v Speaker 1>if Charles was dead. She could marry Chad day Bell

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<v Speaker 1>and become Lori day Bell. She could live her doomsday life.

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<v Speaker 1>She would get the million dollar life insurance policy from

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Valo. She'd get social Security for herself and their

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<v Speaker 1>son as the child of a dead spouse, and they

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<v Speaker 1>should get all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>If Charles was dead, she.

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<v Speaker 1>They say the prosecution would label people who disagreed with

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<v Speaker 1>her as dark or possessed by evil spirits, and used

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<v Speaker 1>religion as a way for her to justify her killings.

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<v Speaker 1>God so wild. It's so wild because religion is such

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<v Speaker 1>a saving grace for so many people, right Like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>used for so much good, for so much healing, when

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<v Speaker 1>people go through the worst of the worst and they

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<v Speaker 1>just like.

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<v Speaker 3>Lean on God about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when people use religion to for evil and

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<v Speaker 1>use it as the excuse, it's just it's so gross,

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<v Speaker 1>especially about especially using it to justify the murder of

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<v Speaker 1>your own children. I like to believe that this woman

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<v Speaker 1>was cuckoo pants and that there is no rhyme or

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<v Speaker 1>reason to what she did. I know it's the prosecution's

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<v Speaker 1>job to come up with a realistic version of events,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for a rational way.

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<v Speaker 3>Things went down right.

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<v Speaker 1>But for somebody to say the demon infiltrated their children

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<v Speaker 1>and use that as a reason to kill them, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to believe that's just good old fashioned mental illness,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's easier for me to come to grips.

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<v Speaker 3>With than a life insurance policy.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the jurors in this case said lies from

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<v Speaker 4>the defense were revealed as the trial went on, that

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<v Speaker 4>Lorie Valo Dabel appeared unseerious in her role as her

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<v Speaker 4>own counsel. All of this weighed on her this juror's decision.

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<v Speaker 4>She said, many days she was just smiling and laughing

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<v Speaker 4>and didn't seem to take anything very seriously, which would

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<v Speaker 4>go to your point of clearly struggling with mental illness

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<v Speaker 4>of some kind but blaming it on other people not

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<v Speaker 4>having the recognition.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess if you, if you say that she's

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<v Speaker 1>mentally ill, then she, you know, gets gets out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>She gets up pass on certain things, but not convincing

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<v Speaker 4>her brother to kill the fourth husband and then killing

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<v Speaker 4>her own kids.

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<v Speaker 1>So, my god, up next, if you kill some What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it kills someone? What kind of excuse

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<v Speaker 1>you think you'll come up with?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>What were you gonna say? It was gonna be pretty good?

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<v Speaker 4>The show that drives me crazy. Yeah, I think you

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<v Speaker 4>can do better. I probably will have to work on that.

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<v Speaker 4>The California Film and TV tax Credit expansion is making

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<v Speaker 4>its way through the legislature. Maybe there is some good

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<v Speaker 4>news for the for the film and TV industry here

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<v Speaker 4>in California.

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<v Speaker 1>Heather Brooker from KFI News joins us next

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<v Speaker 4>You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show, you

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<v Speaker 4>can always hear us live on KFIM six forty nine

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<v Speaker 4>am to one pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime

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