Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to kf
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Speaker 1: demand on the iHeartRadio app. It's rare I go to Starbucks,
Speaker 1: but today I did this morning and.
Speaker 2: Then put a creature.
Speaker 3: There was no creature.
Speaker 1: It said hi, just high, no exclamation point, just h I,
Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of creepy because I've gotten hearts,
Speaker 1: and I've gotten high exclamation point and I've gotten a
Speaker 1: happy face. But this was the first time I just
Speaker 1: said hi, no punctuity, no punctuation, and it felt a
Speaker 1: little serial killer e to me. However, the woman at
Speaker 1: the window said, here you go, sweetie, and I loved that.
Speaker 1: I want to start off every morning with some stranger
Speaker 1: calling me sweetie.
Speaker 4: That is very funny because yesterday on Fox News Channel
Speaker 4: there was a whole blow up. Randy Weingarten, the head
Speaker 4: of the Teachers Union the National Teachers Union, referred to
Speaker 4: Martha McCallum as sweetheart, and Martha McCallum hated it. Now
Speaker 4: granted situation, she was being super condescending. Martha McCollums like, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, call me sweetheart.
Speaker 1: See, but that makes it worse for her. When someone
Speaker 1: calls you sweetheart, you got to just laugh it off.
Speaker 1: Steve Gregor used to do that. Oh sweetheart, you just
Speaker 1: gotta laugh it off.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: If you take umbrage with it, if you take issue
Speaker 1: with it, then you are.
Speaker 4: The the lily makes it worse. You know, we should
Speaker 4: do that as a talkback. Actually is what is your
Speaker 4: love it?
Speaker 3: I love movie called sweetheart?
Speaker 2: Sweetie doesn't have to be Starbucks.
Speaker 4: But in a place where they ask your name, do
Speaker 4: you give him your real name or do you give
Speaker 4: him something like now?
Speaker 2: I mean, since they have a high on your head.
Speaker 1: I have a real hard time with people who use
Speaker 1: fake names like you seem like the kind of person
Speaker 1: that would do that. You do that with your stupid
Speaker 1: email addresses and stupid stuff like you're very private?
Speaker 3: I know, but why who the hell are you? What
Speaker 3: I mean, who are you? Why would you hide your identity.
Speaker 2: Because I didn't want to be found out.
Speaker 1: People like Starbucks like Dave Bruce just tell him Bruce, tell.
Speaker 4: Him name because they want to hear their they want
Speaker 4: to hear the barista call out a funny name.
Speaker 3: That's stupid.
Speaker 2: I agree. I'm just saying there are plenty of people
Speaker 2: who do it.
Speaker 3: You don't do it.
Speaker 2: I don't do that.
Speaker 3: You've never done that.
Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever used a fake name kick
Speaker 4: or like at a hotel or whatever. I'm sorry for
Speaker 4: profiling you incorrectly.
Speaker 2: Very strange. Listen, I like your outfit. Thanks. President Trump
Speaker 2: has said has said.
Speaker 4: Maybe he is ready to pull back on some of
Speaker 4: those tariffs on China.
Speaker 5: One hundred and forty five percent is very high, and
Speaker 5: it won't be that high.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be that high.
Speaker 5: It'll come down to substay and three. But it won't
Speaker 5: be zero. He used to be zero.
Speaker 1: We were just destroyed.
Speaker 5: China was taking us for a ride and just not
Speaker 5: gonna have It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4: So the Wall Street Journal got on this and said
Speaker 4: that the plan that is likely going to happen mirror
Speaker 4: is one that was introduced by the House late last year.
Speaker 2: This would be a tiered approach.
Speaker 4: Thirty five percent levees items that are not considered a
Speaker 4: threat to national security, but at least one hundred percent
Speaker 4: on those that are eased down over five years. One
Speaker 4: White House official told the Wall Street Journal the result
Speaker 4: would be an overall tariff somewhere between a China tariff
Speaker 4: roughly between fifty and sixty five percent.
Speaker 3: So that's the endgame that we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1: I still find it fascinating that Wall Street reacts to
Speaker 1: all the whims of this president. And I guess you
Speaker 1: have to because he is a president of the United States. Sure,
Speaker 1: you're reacting to the title making these calls, not the
Speaker 1: person behind the title, because we have said said from
Speaker 1: go that this is not tenable.
Speaker 3: This is not a tenable situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if Scott Bessen, I mean, if the Secretary
Speaker 4: of the Treasury says these exact same words and he
Speaker 4: has it doesn't make a tenth the impact on Wall
Speaker 4: Street that it does when a president says it. Now,
Speaker 4: other presidents had been more careful and measured when it
Speaker 4: comes to things like talking about the Fed Reserve chair
Speaker 4: or something like that, because they know that it could
Speaker 4: have an impact significantly on Wall Street and the way
Speaker 4: people view American stocks and bonds.
Speaker 1: Trump's also said he didn't feel the need to play
Speaker 1: hardball with Hi Jinping.
Speaker 4: This is yeah, that language is just hey, we're just
Speaker 4: friends having a little bit of a dispute here over what.
Speaker 4: But then he'll talk about how it feels like China
Speaker 4: has been taking advantage of the United States for decades,
Speaker 4: which which is very different then, but we don't have
Speaker 4: to be we don't have to get we don't have
Speaker 4: to be nasty to it.
Speaker 1: It's such a tactic, right, you come out and you're
Speaker 1: super nasty, and then you dial back again, leaving the
Speaker 1: door open for maybe a friendship, hoping to lure that
Speaker 1: person into the cave of negotiation.
Speaker 2: Yea. Then it gives you.
Speaker 4: The card to play like, well, friends don't treat each
Speaker 4: other like this, right, we're friends, you know. A healthy
Speaker 4: competition is the way we should be going. Right, There
Speaker 4: is something that kind of happening on the back end.
Speaker 4: It's very quiet that's going on in DC, but it
Speaker 4: could potentially signal the opening of talks, sort of the
Speaker 4: opening round the capital of China. Beijing has sent People's
Speaker 4: Bank of China's governor, his deputy, and a finance minister.
Speaker 4: Those three guys are all in DC this week and
Speaker 4: they are going to be hosting meetings of the World
Speaker 4: Bank Group and the International Monetary Fund. They're saying simply
Speaker 4: because we will see high level Chinese officials with high
Speaker 4: level American officials in the same place at the same time.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's sort of an exchange of the contours of it,
Speaker 4: of an agreement at some point, So maybe that maybe
Speaker 4: there is progress.
Speaker 1: I am cracking up over the media coverage of the
Speaker 1: Pope's death. Everyone is suddenly a Catholic. Everybody cares about
Speaker 1: the Catholics. Everybody treating this with the utmost reverence. People
Speaker 1: talking about mike Langelo's Pieta, talking about the Chamber of
Speaker 1: Deputies kneeling before the coffin, and the Italian Parliament lower house, and.
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody cares.
Speaker 1: I understand that the eighty percent of this country is
Speaker 1: church going, what percentage of that is Catholic?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And everyone's is acting like.
Speaker 1: This is just such the biggest deal, and they're trying
Speaker 1: not to butcher the names and things that we don't
Speaker 1: really care about.
Speaker 3: It's like the Catholic guilt has.
Speaker 1: Permeated the entire country, like y'all that did sit through
Speaker 1: it the way we all sat through it and feel
Speaker 1: guilty over every single thing. Suddenly the Pope dies and
Speaker 1: you're all getting a little dose of what we lived through.
Speaker 2: Walking with the Rosary.
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Speaker 6: Hey Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4: Hey Gary.
Speaker 6: Question, did you we hear speedo under your clothes when
Speaker 6: you had swim practice in the morning? Buddy, I'm just
Speaker 6: curious day man.
Speaker 2: The answer is no.
Speaker 3: Can we unpack that for a minute.
Speaker 1: You haven't talked about being on the swim team in
Speaker 1: high school for quite some time. That's ratnel around, rattle
Speaker 1: in around in his brain. Ye, thinking about you and
Speaker 1: your speedo. I would imagine that you brought your speedo
Speaker 1: with you and he changed in the locker room.
Speaker 4: Before practice and then changed out of it. Well, yeah,
Speaker 4: because it was wet. Yeah, I don't know what the guy,
Speaker 4: I don't know why you wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I don't understand, but everyone's visualizing you as a teenager
Speaker 1: great speedo underneath your street clothes.
Speaker 4: But to clarify, in practice, I would always wear multiple
Speaker 4: I wore two or three excuse me, speedos and then
Speaker 4: trunks over the top of it. Really create more drag,
Speaker 4: big pockets and everything like that, so that when you
Speaker 4: on when you'd have a meat, most of them on
Speaker 4: Thursdays on Thursday afternoon, you would just wear your skit.
Speaker 3: It wasn't just penis modesty.
Speaker 1: Well, you put a lot of layers on top of
Speaker 1: that thing, keep it safe, keep it away from the
Speaker 1: public eye.
Speaker 2: Well, I was fifteen, there probably was a little bit
Speaker 2: of that. S mentioned it.
Speaker 1: Man, if I had one of those, I would totally
Speaker 1: wear like sixteen speedos, probably into my mid twenties.
Speaker 4: Latin chants have been sounding across the Vatican. This procession
Speaker 4: of red hatted cardinals and bishops, et cetera accompanied Pope
Speaker 4: Francis's body from his residency out to Saint Peter's Basilica.
Speaker 3: Sy, you're a glam squad that goes along with.
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm going to get in trouble, but I've paid
Speaker 1: my dues. Is there a glam squad that goes along
Speaker 1: with the body to touch up the powdering and the makeup.
Speaker 1: I would assume that's a yes. You got to keep
Speaker 1: that body looking freshly powdered.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I don't know how. I don't know what
Speaker 4: sort of preservation is equipment, no spackle, spackling. You know
Speaker 4: he died at the age of eighty eight. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: it doesn't take long for the body to change very
Speaker 4: quickly in.
Speaker 2: Depth.
Speaker 1: How often are open caskets these days? Are they still
Speaker 1: as common?
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: So I can't remember the last time I went to
Speaker 1: an open casket.
Speaker 4: I did one twenty years ago, probably soon after my
Speaker 4: wife and I were married, so probably closer to twenty
Speaker 4: five years ago. I was a good friend of ours,
Speaker 4: someone I went to college with ended up being a
Speaker 4: roommate of my of my now wife, sort of a
Speaker 4: weird confluence of events.
Speaker 2: But her younger brother was killed a motorcycle accident.
Speaker 4: How old twenty oh, god, twenty one, and and they
Speaker 4: did an open casket and it was.
Speaker 3: A casket because of the injuries. Oh my god, that's awful.
Speaker 4: And I just, I mean, I can, to this day
Speaker 4: close my eyes and see john'son like, see the face.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's just it's so sad.
Speaker 4: First of all, it's such an awful, heartbreaking because it's
Speaker 4: a young guy, and it was a it was a
Speaker 4: bad accident.
Speaker 2: Didn't have to happen.
Speaker 4: It just awful, awful, awful, And then to see that
Speaker 4: as part of the whole day.
Speaker 2: Of the funeral is just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I had gone to a lot of funerals. I mean
Speaker 1: not a lot, but a fair amount in my childhood.
Speaker 1: Older relatives had died. But I remember when my uncle died,
Speaker 1: My uncle Harry, a massive heart attack, and he was
Speaker 1: probably about your age, I want to say, he was
Speaker 1: early fifties, and it was obviously a shock, a surprise.
Speaker 3: He was a big guy, but.
Speaker 1: Still, and I remember seeing him in they had an
Speaker 1: open casket, and seeing him in the in that casket
Speaker 1: and just losing it because he was so young and
Speaker 1: I was twenty at the time, but it gave me
Speaker 1: a sense of my parents' mortality at that point. And
Speaker 1: it was terrifying because everyone else was in their eighties,
Speaker 1: late seventies, eighties. They were ancient. You know, when you're
Speaker 1: growing up, it's ancient. But he, you know, dark hair Dad.
Speaker 1: You know my cousins were on the same age, and
Speaker 1: it was just awful.
Speaker 4: They say that the funeral itself will be on Saturday,
Speaker 4: So if you're getting up early to watch it, it's
Speaker 4: going to be I think one o'clock our time.
Speaker 3: Are you going to get it?
Speaker 2: Every Saturday morning?
Speaker 3: You're gonna put on your robes?
Speaker 4: No, I mean, are your speedo, no, not even my
Speaker 4: speedo to watch to watch the funeral?
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be in Latin? This is it's gotta
Speaker 1: be in Latin, right, it's a pope's funeral. Although he
Speaker 1: pooh pooed the Latin mass.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they would do that.
Speaker 3: They've got it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know the rules, but I would think,
Speaker 1: let me look that up.
Speaker 4: There is also a memorial mass here in La they
Speaker 4: say with it will honor the life and the ministry
Speaker 4: Pope Francis. It's going to be Friday, of course, downtown
Speaker 4: at the huge cathedral of Our Lady of Angels. The
Speaker 4: Archdiocese of La has announced that the special service will
Speaker 4: start just after noon on Friday, led by Archbishop hose
Speaker 4: Ac Comes will also be joined by some auxiliary bishops
Speaker 4: and clergy of the Archdiocese of La. That's going to
Speaker 4: be on Friday, and then the conclave. I mean, over
Speaker 4: the next couple of weeks, we're going to do a
Speaker 4: bunch of stories about the potential leaders in the clubhouse
Speaker 4: when it comes to those bishops that could become the
Speaker 4: next pope and how they want to run things and
Speaker 4: if it is very different from what Pope Francis did.
Speaker 2: As the pope for the last several years.
Speaker 1: My goodness, I'm just going through the protocol. And there's
Speaker 1: a playbook for the funeral. Oh yeah, it's a twenty
Speaker 1: page playbook. It's called the University Dominicis, which is Latin
Speaker 1: for the shepherd of the Lord's whole flock.
Speaker 4: Well, think of when the queen died, I mean, when
Speaker 4: the queen or when the prince right, it's the same bit.
Speaker 1: It's the same bit. Is that part of our fascination
Speaker 1: as a country.
Speaker 4: I think that, Yes, I was going to say that,
Speaker 4: I think that there is a certain amount of I
Speaker 4: mean you're talking about everybody's been affected by this, Catholic
Speaker 4: or not. There's something about us as big meat bags
Speaker 4: that like to see some amount of history, tradition, and
Speaker 4: some amount of tradition and pomp.
Speaker 1: It's it's science. We're biologically wired to be connected to
Speaker 1: our past, Yeah, and to tradition like that, and.
Speaker 4: This tradition goes back a couple thousand years.
Speaker 3: You know what I would like to do. I'd like
Speaker 3: to know you got really nervous with your face right there.
Speaker 4: Oftentimes, usually that question is answered with I'd.
Speaker 2: Like to burn it down. I'd just like to burn it.
Speaker 3: I don't sound like candle shoot it first of all.
Speaker 2: Shoot it and then burn it.
Speaker 1: I am coming from a positive place today, okay, And
Speaker 1: I think that we need a tradition on this show.
Speaker 1: This show has been around ten years, which is an eternity. Basically,
Speaker 1: we've had traditions. What coming gone well, I'd like to
Speaker 1: stick to at least one of them on the Thursday,
Speaker 1: right right, you know, I don't know. I just feel
Speaker 1: like we don't pay homage to our traditions here on
Speaker 1: this show.
Speaker 2: Enough. Michael Monks is going to join us we come back.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, we spend a lot of homeless money, and
Speaker 4: then we also don't spend a lot of homeless money.
Speaker 4: Five hundred some odd million dollars that was not spent,
Speaker 4: and finally someone in city Hall goes, hey, uh, I
Speaker 4: got an idea.
Speaker 2: We maybe just like, look at where the money goes.
Speaker 1: Michael Monks has been on top of this, and we'll
Speaker 1: continue to follow all of the news regarding the whole
Speaker 1: less out a City Hall Hill join us when we
Speaker 1: come back.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Michael Monks has joined us because we continue to track
Speaker 1: what's going on in downtown LA when it comes to
Speaker 1: all the homeless dollars we have as voters have sent
Speaker 1: this way towards the county or the city, and it
Speaker 1: looks like yesterday the council called for analysis of the spending.
Speaker 3: You would think that this would be done.
Speaker 1: That the voters would approve a bond or a tax
Speaker 1: or what have you, and that all of the money
Speaker 1: would be accounted for and you'd know exactly where it
Speaker 1: was going, and that's what you do when other people
Speaker 1: give you their money.
Speaker 3: Apparently that was not being done.
Speaker 4: Now they've decided unanimously twelve nothing that they are going
Speaker 4: to start doing this.
Speaker 2: That's right, and apologize.
Speaker 4: I spoke before I was introduced that's a faux pas so,
Speaker 4: but you were talking ice cream sandwiches.
Speaker 3: So no, everyone who as you are, come on.
Speaker 2: All right, I wouldn't note that.
Speaker 4: Yes, the council voted yesterday to say maybe we should,
Speaker 4: I don't know, have a presentation every now and then
Speaker 4: on where these moneies are going, because it's a lot
Speaker 4: of money and apparently we don't actually know. So that
Speaker 4: was the first thing they did. But there was also
Speaker 4: an example of this playing out separate from this vote.
Speaker 4: They voted on something else yesterday to get a better
Speaker 4: handle on a program known as time limited Subsidies, and
Speaker 4: that is a government word for basically giving a market
Speaker 4: rate apartment to a homeless person, subsidizing the rent, but
Speaker 4: having that person in a program where they can be
Speaker 4: rehabilitated and within a couple of years or so, be
Speaker 4: able to pay for that apartment on their own. It
Speaker 4: sounds like a pretty solid program, but they invested about
Speaker 4: one hundred ninety four million dollars in this program, between
Speaker 4: the City of the County and LASA and Councilman Nthia Rahman,
Speaker 4: who's a hardliner on homelessness stuff, as in she's in
Speaker 4: favor of all of the programs and an apologist for
Speaker 4: a lot of the programs. She says, of that one
Speaker 4: hundred and ninety four million dollars, we have noticed that
Speaker 4: we haven't spent a lot of it. We've only spent
Speaker 4: somewhere between twenty five and sixty percent of it.
Speaker 2: So that alone is a problem because.
Speaker 3: They don't know what they're doing with that.
Speaker 4: You're not spending all of the money that you've allocated
Speaker 4: for this program. They say they don't have the you know,
Speaker 4: the social workers, they don't have the landlord's willing to
Speaker 4: rent the apartments.
Speaker 2: That's the problem.
Speaker 4: But to me, the bigger problem was, what do you
Speaker 4: mean between twenty five and sixty percent?
Speaker 2: Quite a swath it is, you know, it's not twenty
Speaker 2: five to.
Speaker 1: Thirty, you know, because they don't know what they're doing
Speaker 1: with money. These aren't money people. These are people that
Speaker 1: are our whorees that decided to get into politics to
Speaker 1: benefit themselves. They they don't have any real money. They
Speaker 1: don't know how to spend it. It's like giving a twenty
Speaker 1: one year old athlete a multimillion dollar contract and saying
Speaker 1: you've got all this money, go make great use of it.
Speaker 3: And they're like, I don't know what to do with it.
Speaker 3: That's what's happening at city council.
Speaker 1: They don't have anybody like Rick Caruso, for example, who
Speaker 1: knows money to come in and triage the money situation.
Speaker 4: And again, and I think we've even spent about it
Speaker 4: together on this program, that if the results were obvious
Speaker 4: and not just occasional presentations every year about how the
Speaker 4: homeless population is dipped a percent or two, you know,
Speaker 4: in raw numbers, I think people would be more forgiving,
Speaker 4: you know, like, yeah, it's expensive to do this, but
Speaker 4: the progress isn't right that you know. I have five
Speaker 4: new tents outside my apartment building this week. Skid row
Speaker 4: has now come in bled out into the fashion district
Speaker 4: and as of this week, five new tents that are
Speaker 4: loud blocking the sidewalk, and it looks terrible.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right if we saw some change, if we
Speaker 1: saw them using the money correctly. Just give me a
Speaker 1: couple examples and we'll publicize it all day long. If
Speaker 1: you can show us constructive ways you've used the money,
Speaker 1: that's been a proof for you to use for this problem.
Speaker 1: Show us on the flip side, all we've seen is
Speaker 1: mismanagement and now them not even using the money because
Speaker 1: they don't know how. I mean, it is such a
Speaker 1: freaking mess.
Speaker 2: It's a big mess.
Speaker 4: And this just calls for a report in sixty days
Speaker 4: on how the money is being spent, and then they
Speaker 4: are to do these reports every quarter about homeless dollars.
Speaker 4: This includes spending by LASA, also by the Mayor's program
Speaker 4: Inside Safe, which has had some relatively secretive finances, so
Speaker 4: we'll maybe get to see a little bit more on this,
Speaker 4: But again, this is a very expensive project. The city
Speaker 4: is now kind of on its own because they don't
Speaker 4: have the county in partnership with them. As up next year,
Speaker 4: the county has voted to leave the LA Homeless Service
Speaker 4: Authority and do its own thing, and I haven't seen
Speaker 4: the city come out with what its plan is.
Speaker 1: The number of homeless people was down this amount from
Speaker 1: year to year twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: What do you think think about the number the amount
Speaker 1: of money we're talking about. How many fewer homeless people
Speaker 1: did we have from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Do you think percentage?
Speaker 3: No, sheer number of homeless people?
Speaker 2: No idea. Just take used out a couple of thousand.
Speaker 3: Two hundred.
Speaker 1: Oh, we've got two hundred people off the street allegedly.
Speaker 1: And how many billions of dollars have we thrown at this?
Speaker 1: I mean part of it is their complete head in
Speaker 1: the sand reluctance to understand the problem of addiction. I
Speaker 1: mean that that is something that needs to be dealt with.
Speaker 2: I thought it was the first housing prices.
Speaker 3: It is not it is not weird.
Speaker 2: I thought, that's exactly what as.
Speaker 1: Michael said, there's programs where they're getting people into homes.
Speaker 3: That's not the problem.
Speaker 4: That's what I thought yesterday as I pulled into my
Speaker 4: parking lot and I saw all my new neighbors outside,
Speaker 4: I thought, you know, if you didn't want to live
Speaker 4: in a tent on the street, what do you need.
Speaker 4: If you're a drug addict or a drunk, there's a
Speaker 4: program for you. If you need help getting a job,
Speaker 4: there is a program for you. If you need to
Speaker 4: get your education, there is a program for you. And
Speaker 4: if you need to be in a shelter, there is
Speaker 4: supposed to be a bed for you somewhere. So why
Speaker 4: are you here on this street unless some degree, if
Speaker 4: you get to.
Speaker 3: What you want to do in that tent.
Speaker 1: But if you go into those programs and you've got
Speaker 1: to do a bunch of things that you don't want
Speaker 1: to do. When we live in a city that makes
Speaker 1: it easy and looks the other way for people to do.
Speaker 3: What they want to do, i e.
Speaker 1: Crack and booze and everything that's bad for you, we
Speaker 1: enable all of it.
Speaker 4: That's what it looks like because blocking the sidewalk is
Speaker 4: against the law. I mean, we talk about criminalizing homelessness,
Speaker 4: and it's true that I think all of us have
Speaker 4: our humanity still, Like you feel for the people who
Speaker 4: are in the situation they're in, whether it's chosen or not,
Speaker 4: that you wish their life could be a little bit better.
Speaker 4: But they're making other people's lives worse by not allowing
Speaker 4: someone in a wheelchair to be able to get by. Thankfully,
Speaker 4: we have a protected bike lane on my streets, so
Speaker 4: we can step into that and not worry about being
Speaker 4: run over.
Speaker 2: But if you get run over by a bike. You
Speaker 2: could get run over by a bike.
Speaker 4: But you can't walk on the sidewalk now because they
Speaker 4: are all blocked by these massive tents which were being
Speaker 4: erected at like three in the morning with power tools
Speaker 4: and wood and rope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a whole it's a racket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got a whole situation going on.
Speaker 1: There's infrastructure, just the whole. We have compassion for the
Speaker 1: homeless bull s, but if.
Speaker 2: You try to build wants.
Speaker 1: To live in a tent? You know, I want to
Speaker 1: live in a tent or you pick. It's this time
Speaker 1: of year it's beautiful. I'd like to live in a
Speaker 1: tent and zone out for a couple of months.
Speaker 4: You couldn't set up a card table and sell Michael
Speaker 4: Monk's branded homemade ice cream. I would, Gary, That's not
Speaker 4: even something that I'm thinking about doing.
Speaker 3: Why you could fire some of them to set up
Speaker 3: your I could.
Speaker 2: I bet they could find all the right ingredients.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: But I mean, if if you really LA city leader,
Speaker 1: La City leaders, if you truly have compassion for the homeless,
Speaker 1: you would not be looking the other way. If I
Speaker 1: got to do what part of me wants to do
Speaker 1: and lived in a tent outside Michael Monks's place and
Speaker 1: just do drugs and drink myself away for a couple months,
Speaker 1: you know, I'd have people coming to get me because
Speaker 1: they actually do have compassion for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd come for you. You could come upstairs, you
Speaker 2: could come in.
Speaker 3: You've probably let me do my drugs in your place.
Speaker 2: If you shared.
Speaker 4: All you guys are friends. I know, dang it, fight
Speaker 4: at all you want? Watching it happen right in front
Speaker 4: of me, and I can't ignore it. Lori Bellow day
Speaker 4: Bell has been convicted. We'll tell you what she got
Speaker 4: popped for when we come back to Michael, Thank you,
Speaker 4: she got popped for.
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Speaker 4: Yesterday we told you about the story of the judge
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Ferguson found guilty second degree murder. Was the was
Speaker 4: the final determination. We'll talk more about that story coming
Speaker 4: up next hour. Of course, he's the one who says
Speaker 4: that he stumbled taking his glock out of his ankle
Speaker 4: holster and putting it on the table and just happened
Speaker 4: to kill as one.
Speaker 1: Well, the jury heard the show yesterday. I think that's
Speaker 1: what it came to, the right decision.
Speaker 2: You're they were listening to it, sure.
Speaker 3: Why not? Laurie Valo Dabell.
Speaker 1: This is the woman, the blonde woman who has a
Speaker 1: trail of bodies in her wake. She killed her kids,
Speaker 1: She's killed an ex husband or two. She's killed an
Speaker 1: ex wife of an ex husband. I think a brother
Speaker 1: died somewhere along the way. She represented herself at her
Speaker 1: latest legal proceeding and was convicted yesterday in Arizona of
Speaker 1: conspiring to kill her fourth husband, Charles Valow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she represented herself at trial. She said it was
Speaker 4: her brother that did it, Alex Cox, who shot Charles
Speaker 4: Valow in self defense during an argument or after an argument. Well,
Speaker 4: it was just very convenient that Alex the brother died
Speaker 4: that year from a pulmonary embolism and was never charged.
Speaker 4: You know why, because he's dead, and she probably thought
Speaker 4: to herself, I just I just got off scot free.
Speaker 1: She claimed that her husband got into an argument this
Speaker 1: is really rich with her daughter and threatened her daughter
Speaker 1: with a bat, the daughter that Laurie went on to
Speaker 1: kill because she said her two kids were taken over
Speaker 1: by the demon of the devil Right.
Speaker 4: Prosecutors originally dismissed the case because they said they dismissed
Speaker 4: her self defense claim, arguing that she had several reasons
Speaker 4: to want her husband dead, including her desire to start
Speaker 4: a life with yet another man.
Speaker 1: So the prosecutors laid it out that Lorie Valo that
Speaker 1: she had several reasons for wanting her husband dead, including
Speaker 1: her desire to start a new life with that doomsday guy.
Speaker 3: Chad day Bell.
Speaker 1: The prosecutor in the case of Lorie Valo wanted to
Speaker 1: be Lori da Bell, the wife of Chad day Bell,
Speaker 1: and she wanted to keep the same lifestyle that she
Speaker 1: had with Charles Valo. She could get all of this
Speaker 1: if Charles was dead. She could marry Chad day Bell
Speaker 1: and become Lori day Bell. She could live her doomsday life.
Speaker 1: She would get the million dollar life insurance policy from
Speaker 1: Charles Valo. She'd get social Security for herself and their
Speaker 1: son as the child of a dead spouse, and they
Speaker 1: should get all of it.
Speaker 3: If Charles was dead, she.
Speaker 1: They say the prosecution would label people who disagreed with
Speaker 1: her as dark or possessed by evil spirits, and used
Speaker 1: religion as a way for her to justify her killings.
Speaker 1: God so wild. It's so wild because religion is such
Speaker 1: a saving grace for so many people, right Like, it's
Speaker 1: used for so much good, for so much healing, when
Speaker 1: people go through the worst of the worst and they
Speaker 1: just like.
Speaker 3: Lean on God about it.
Speaker 1: And then when people use religion to for evil and
Speaker 1: use it as the excuse, it's just it's so gross,
Speaker 1: especially about especially using it to justify the murder of
Speaker 1: your own children. I like to believe that this woman
Speaker 1: was cuckoo pants and that there is no rhyme or
Speaker 1: reason to what she did. I know it's the prosecution's
Speaker 1: job to come up with a realistic version of events,
Speaker 1: you know, for a rational way.
Speaker 3: Things went down right.
Speaker 1: But for somebody to say the demon infiltrated their children
Speaker 1: and use that as a reason to kill them, I'd
Speaker 1: like to believe that's just good old fashioned mental illness,
Speaker 1: because that's easier for me to come to grips.
Speaker 3: With than a life insurance policy.
Speaker 4: One of the jurors in this case said lies from
Speaker 4: the defense were revealed as the trial went on, that
Speaker 4: Lorie Valo Dabel appeared unseerious in her role as her
Speaker 4: own counsel. All of this weighed on her this juror's decision.
Speaker 4: She said, many days she was just smiling and laughing
Speaker 4: and didn't seem to take anything very seriously, which would
Speaker 4: go to your point of clearly struggling with mental illness
Speaker 4: of some kind but blaming it on other people not
Speaker 4: having the recognition.
Speaker 1: But I guess if you, if you say that she's
Speaker 1: mentally ill, then she, you know, gets gets out of it.
Speaker 4: She gets up pass on certain things, but not convincing
Speaker 4: her brother to kill the fourth husband and then killing
Speaker 4: her own kids.
Speaker 1: So, my god, up next, if you kill some What
Speaker 1: do you think it kills someone? What kind of excuse
Speaker 1: you think you'll come up with?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: What were you gonna say? It was gonna be pretty good?
Speaker 4: The show that drives me crazy. Yeah, I think you
Speaker 4: can do better. I probably will have to work on that.
Speaker 4: The California Film and TV tax Credit expansion is making
Speaker 4: its way through the legislature. Maybe there is some good
Speaker 4: news for the for the film and TV industry here
Speaker 4: in California.
Speaker 1: Heather Brooker from KFI News joins us next
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