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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Veterans Chronicles. I'm Greg Corumbus. Our guest in

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<v Speaker 1>this edition is Delmar Beard. He's a US Navy veteran

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<v Speaker 1>of World War Two and a US Army veteran of

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<v Speaker 1>the Korean War and the Vietnam War. During World War II,

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<v Speaker 1>he served a board an LST in the Pacific and

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<v Speaker 1>took part in the landings at both Ewojima and Okinawa.

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<v Speaker 1>After the war, mister Beard left the Navy and joined

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<v Speaker 1>the Army shortly thereafter. He served in a non combat

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<v Speaker 1>role in Korea, but returned to combat in Vietnam as

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<v Speaker 1>a command sergeant major, overseeing major gun batteries near Quinyong

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<v Speaker 1>from nineteen sixty seven to nineteen sixty eight. Delmar Beard

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<v Speaker 1>was born into a farming family in May of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>I was born in North Carolina, and my dad was

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<v Speaker 2>a farmer in Cumberland County, just outside of Fort Bragg

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<v Speaker 2>and Fedville, North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>Beard was fifteen years old and spending his Sunday morning

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<v Speaker 1>as he normally did when he first heard about the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on December seventh, nineteen forty one.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a church It was only Sunday, and we

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<v Speaker 2>heard that did at bum Pearl Harbor. That's why I

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<v Speaker 2>first heard of Pearl Harbor.

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<v Speaker 1>At that time, Beard was too young to enlist, but

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years later, on one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>pivotal days of the war in Europe, he got his

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<v Speaker 1>chance to join the war effort. Not only did Beard

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<v Speaker 1>live in North Carolina, he lived very close to Fort Bragg,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most well known US Army installations. But

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<v Speaker 1>Beard and a buddy said no to the Army at

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<v Speaker 1>that time shows the Navy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess one of the reasons I joined the Davy.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother was already in North Africa and I was

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<v Speaker 2>born raised right there where I could see the per

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<v Speaker 2>trooper jump on Fort Bragg, and I had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of contact with the Army, and so I said, my

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<v Speaker 2>buddy and I were, let's go into Navy. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was just something that we decided to do that we

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<v Speaker 2>had seen enough of army in Fort Bragg there for

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen years. I was born in over d Day in Raleigh,

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, and went to Camp Perry, Virginia, which was

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<v Speaker 2>located just outside of Williamsburg, Virginia. Had thirteen weeks of training,

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<v Speaker 2>and then after we finished herd, we called a train

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<v Speaker 2>to Algiers, Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in Algiers, Louisiana that Beard got a signed

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<v Speaker 1>to the LST, on which he would serve for the

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<v Speaker 1>remainder of the war. And he and the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the crew got a good taste of life aboard the

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<v Speaker 1>LST as they sailed it from the Gulf coast to Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the unit that I was signed to, if I

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<v Speaker 2>got to Algiers, there were thirteen of us went aboard

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<v Speaker 2>LST seventy one five and the second day there we

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<v Speaker 2>headed through the Panamaca now to Hawaii. And after we

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<v Speaker 2>get out of Hawaii, we did a lot of praction WITHST,

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<v Speaker 2>beaching on beaches for training, and then I went to

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<v Speaker 2>gunners mate school to learn to clean and operate and

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<v Speaker 2>load the twin forty that I served also on LST.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll hear much more about those twin forties when Beard

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<v Speaker 1>describes his experience off the coast of Okinawa. But he

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<v Speaker 1>did give us some insights into how the guns served

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<v Speaker 1>as the most potent weapons of board the LST.

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<v Speaker 2>The twin forty, well, it was the biggest guns we

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<v Speaker 2>had had them on the bow and the fan tail

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<v Speaker 2>of the ship. And as I say, we had gunners

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<v Speaker 2>mate that took care of him. But I went to

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<v Speaker 2>school for a week to learn how to do certain

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<v Speaker 2>things because I was signed to a twin forty in

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<v Speaker 2>case of Morocco the mortar attax or or earlier air

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<v Speaker 2>at tax or anything like that, and I served over

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<v Speaker 2>that as an extra duty.

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<v Speaker 1>And when asked if he was a quick study on

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<v Speaker 1>those guns, Beard said, his years growing up on the

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<v Speaker 1>farm came in very handy for this assignment.

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<v Speaker 2>My first gun was a gun I purchased at age fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>big old double bar shotgun, so I was used. I

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<v Speaker 2>was used to shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>As for the ship itself, Beard explained the design of

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<v Speaker 1>the LST and how it was used.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the first thing is flat bottom, almost flat bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>roll over and pick up water and roll over the

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<v Speaker 2>other side. It's just like that. We have a what

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<v Speaker 2>we call a port side on the starboard side and

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<v Speaker 2>a big tank dick put the holding ammunition and trucks

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<v Speaker 2>and tanks and all of that. And I forgot how

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<v Speaker 2>long it is, but we had a crew of one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>For the record. The standard LST in World War Two

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<v Speaker 1>was three hundred and twenty eight feet long and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>feet wide at the beam. After weeks and months of training,

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<v Speaker 1>by early nineteen forty five, it was time to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the war, leaving Hawaii with an eventual destination of Ewojima.

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<v Speaker 1>Delmar Beard tells us about a couple of stops along

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<v Speaker 1>the way and what it was like coming ashore on

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<v Speaker 1>Ewojima as the battle was underway.

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<v Speaker 2>After we left and trained in Hawaii, an early you

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<v Speaker 2>where we took off and we went for our base

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<v Speaker 2>port that we operated out love mostly was Saipan and Tinian.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where the planes took off for the atomic bum

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<v Speaker 2>plane that took off later on. But we trained there

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<v Speaker 2>and after there a short while we picked up part

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<v Speaker 2>of the fourth Marine Division and we headed for Ewagima.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't know what Ewajima was. You never heard of it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, little island, you know, we didn't hear of

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<v Speaker 2>it until we got to see and they brought a

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<v Speaker 2>mark of it and explained eve Regima and explained where

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to go in at where district Mount

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<v Speaker 2>Sarabachi we went and eventually anchored right as the first

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<v Speaker 2>ship from Mount Sarabachi. So We got there three days

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<v Speaker 2>later and we went in very early in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>at about four point thirty, and we took the part

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<v Speaker 2>of the fourth Marine Division is to Mount Serbacia on

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<v Speaker 2>the LCVPs to land. You had to take those LSTs

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<v Speaker 2>in when the tide is in so you can go

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<v Speaker 2>up on the beach. Well. Early the next morning we

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<v Speaker 2>went in and put the LST on the beach where

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<v Speaker 2>we could unload the ammunition and octane gas and tanks

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<v Speaker 2>that we had on the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>The horrors endured by the Marines on the black ash

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<v Speaker 1>beaches of Iwo Jima are well documented. The Navy service

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<v Speaker 1>members unloading personnel vehicles, fuel, ammunition, weapons, and more did

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<v Speaker 1>not face the same intensity from the Japanese, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were not immune from deadly fire either.

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<v Speaker 2>I came that close to being hit. I was lined up.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have two hours in the office, but I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be out of it. But the guy marine

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<v Speaker 2>was facing me here and I was here with passing

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<v Speaker 2>the box ammunition out, putting it on the beach, and

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<v Speaker 2>he got a bullet right in the back. He was

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<v Speaker 2>about here and I was here. Two of us. We

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<v Speaker 2>took him, drug him up on the beach and hollered medic. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the medic came down and he was already dead. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And we could see the dead Marines laying on the

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<v Speaker 2>beach because it takes a while for two people were

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<v Speaker 2>to pick him up and take him away. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there was someone laid there half a day on the

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<v Speaker 2>beach because there was so many, so many of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Beard says he heard constant reminders that the Japanese bullets

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<v Speaker 1>were not far away.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, we could hear it ricksheaning off the

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<v Speaker 2>side of the ship being be you know. But if

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<v Speaker 2>they were shooting more seemed like at the ship than

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<v Speaker 2>there was us in the line hoping that he could

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<v Speaker 2>do something damage there. We could hear there was not

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<v Speaker 2>that much fire coming down there because they were business

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<v Speaker 2>shooting the ones on the Marines on the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>Even for those fortunate enough to survive the deadly enemy fire,

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<v Speaker 1>the trauma of the experience could still be overwhelming. Beard

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<v Speaker 1>remembers one sailor who had to be evacuated.

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<v Speaker 2>We had some that went, some that couldn't. We got

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<v Speaker 2>shell shark. We had the kid got so shell shark.

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<v Speaker 2>It took four people to hold it, and then all

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<v Speaker 2>we could do is is take our LCVP and took

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<v Speaker 2>him over to the hospital ship. It was the USS Mercy,

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<v Speaker 2>which is still operating.

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<v Speaker 1>While Beard only ventured on shore far enough to unload

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<v Speaker 1>some flies, he was still perfectly positioned to witness two

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<v Speaker 1>of the most indelible moments of the battle. The first,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, was the raising of the American flag atop

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Surabachi. But he also had a front row seat

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<v Speaker 1>as the US Marines used their flamethrowers to force the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese out of their underground fortresses.

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<v Speaker 2>And we could see where we was at was real

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<v Speaker 2>good position. We could see the Marines going up Mount

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<v Speaker 2>Sarabachi with the flame flowers in the cage, and as

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<v Speaker 2>a Japanese got on fire, they run out and rolled

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<v Speaker 2>into Volcadi Cash trying to put it down. But on

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<v Speaker 2>Mount Clara Bachi, for as I know, there was only

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<v Speaker 2>four or five people that surrendered and captured, and they

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<v Speaker 2>built a little fence right there above our ship, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's where they was at when the war ended.

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<v Speaker 1>You Beard is grateful for certain things that happened at

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<v Speaker 1>Ewojima or didn't happen. He says, the Navy did not

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<v Speaker 1>have to endure many Japanese attacks from the air, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Surprisedly, in Ewajima, we didn't have a lot of air

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<v Speaker 2>raid because we had two aircraft carriers out in the

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<v Speaker 2>ocean a little ways from the island, and they intercepted

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<v Speaker 2>the planes before they got in. Only two or three

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<v Speaker 2>got in, So far as the navy go, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have too much problems with aircraft in Ewajima.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Delmar Beard. He's a US Navy veteran of World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two and the battles of Ewojima and Okinawa. He

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<v Speaker 1>later served in the US Army in both the Korean

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<v Speaker 1>War and the Vietnam War. In just a moment, Beard

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<v Speaker 1>takes us into the intense combat he faced against the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese at Okinawa. I'm Greg Corumbus and this is Veterans Chronicle.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Veterans Chronicles. I'm Greg Corumbas. Our guest in

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<v Speaker 1>this edition is del Mar Beard. He's a US Navy

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<v Speaker 1>veteran of World War II and the critical battles of

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<v Speaker 1>Ewojima and Okinawa. He later served many years in the

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<v Speaker 1>US Army, including in a non combat role during the

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<v Speaker 1>Korean War. He then rose to the rank of command

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<v Speaker 1>Sergeant major and commanded gun batteries in Vietnam. But we

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<v Speaker 1>pick up mister Beard's story with some more thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>his service at Ewojima and how he shifted from service

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<v Speaker 1>at Ewojima to taking part in the invasion at Okinawa.

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<v Speaker 1>After dropping off the initial load on the beaches, Beard

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<v Speaker 1>says there were two more trips to pick up personnel

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<v Speaker 2>Our nick trip because the airstrip was quite bummed the runways.

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<v Speaker 2>We went back to Taipan and we picked up a

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<v Speaker 2>Navy construction cartgage steal cartigated to lay on and make

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<v Speaker 2>the runways where the planes could land. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>went back and got another marine unit, mostly medical. A

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<v Speaker 2>people and the bodies and what not.

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<v Speaker 1>And after that third and final drop off, and while

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<v Speaker 1>the fighting was still raging on ewo Jima, Delmar Beard

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<v Speaker 1>and other Navy personnel were already getting prepared for the

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<v Speaker 1>next massive invasion.

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<v Speaker 2>We made a trip to the Philippines right quick, then

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<v Speaker 2>came back to Taipan. Then we picked up the troops

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<v Speaker 2>for the invasion of Okinawa.

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<v Speaker 1>As Beard mentioned earlier, the Japanese air resistance at ewo

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<v Speaker 1>Jima was quite limited. At Okinawa, as Allied forces moved

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<v Speaker 1>even closer towards the Japanese mainland. He says, the enemy

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<v Speaker 1>air raids were very intense.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Okanawa, as far as navy was, was worse worse

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<v Speaker 2>than eve Rejima because we had the damn many air raids.

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<v Speaker 2>We had air raids every day, and there was so

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<v Speaker 2>many we couldn't get into unload our ammunition. We sat

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<v Speaker 2>out there with a shipbload of ammunition and hearks hain

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<v Speaker 2>gas with air raids every day dropping all around. We

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<v Speaker 2>had one drop down between us and the destroyer that

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<v Speaker 2>got hit by a plane with twenty I think there

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<v Speaker 2>was twenty six people killed on it. Well, it was

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<v Speaker 2>suicide plane and it was just over from us, just

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<v Speaker 2>a little way, and we were just lucky that we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get hit because they were nothing left.

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<v Speaker 1>And he says the Japanese consistently brought air raids and

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<v Speaker 1>kamikazi attacks in the middle of the night. Beard says,

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<v Speaker 1>you could almost set your watch by it.

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<v Speaker 2>Every night. It seemed like at fifteen minutes after two

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock in the morning we had air raids, And I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that was a time thing. Like when they left

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<v Speaker 2>Japan to ride there and they writhed about a quarter

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<v Speaker 2>after two, about six nights in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>The American sailors soon got wise to the schedule of

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese attacks, so much so that they didn't even bother

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<v Speaker 2>It of her, the people didn't even take the clothes off.

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<v Speaker 2>They have just a shoes because they knew there's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be an air rage after two. If you was on duty,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't attend guard, but because of a job, except

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<v Speaker 2>during combat combat, I had to I understand myttire. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you got off at twelve, you might as well

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<v Speaker 2>just lay up there? Would you close them? Because you

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<v Speaker 2>had to get up a quarter after two?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when Delmar Beard leapt into action to operate

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<v Speaker 1>those twin forties, the forty millimeter twin barrel anti aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>guns that he learned quickly thanks to his proficiency with

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<v Speaker 1>firearms while growing up on his father's farm.

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<v Speaker 2>The twin foarders we had at that time. We had

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<v Speaker 2>a porter and a trainer, and then we had two

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<v Speaker 2>people in the gun tub where the ammunition was, and

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<v Speaker 2>David hand it up to me and Vernon Law, who

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<v Speaker 2>was the gunner's mate, and we would push him down

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<v Speaker 2>into the chamber and shoot him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he says, despite the threat of Japanese attacks, he

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<v Speaker 1>and the other gunners got into an efficient groove of

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<v Speaker 1>loading and firing those twin forties.

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<v Speaker 2>It been hard and you and hear you raige you

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<v Speaker 2>subisi prak fast as you could to load that then

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<v Speaker 2>and ever third bullet shale is a tracer and you

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<v Speaker 2>could see word's going.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Delmar Beard. He's a US Navy veteran of World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two and the battles of Ewojima and Okinawa. He

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<v Speaker 1>later served for twenty two years in the US Army

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<v Speaker 1>and was deployed to both Korea and Vietnam. Later in

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<v Speaker 1>our discussion, Beard will tell us about his command in

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<v Speaker 1>Vietnam and the challenges he dealt with during some of

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest fighting of the war. He will also share

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<v Speaker 1>his advice with young adults and young service members in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>But up next, we'll hear more from Beard about fighting

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<v Speaker 1>against Japanese Kamakazi missions in World War II and the

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<v Speaker 1>vivid memories he had of that eighty years later. He

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<v Speaker 1>will also tell us about the surprise he found on

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<v Speaker 1>an island near Okinawa and what he's most proud of

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<v Speaker 1>from his many years in uniform. I'm Greg Corumbus, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is Veterans Chronicles. This is Veterans' Chronicles. I'm Greg Corumbus.

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<v Speaker 1>Our guest in this edition is del Mar Beard. Just

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<v Speaker 1>moments ago, Beard explained what it was like to operate

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<v Speaker 1>the twin forty guns aboard LST seven one five during

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<v Speaker 1>numerous air raids and Kamakazi attacks off the coast of Okinawa.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, shooting as fast as he could and watching

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<v Speaker 1>plane after plane get shot down short of its targets

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<v Speaker 1>is a memory vividly etched in his mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was quite a show, a particular at night

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<v Speaker 2>seeing all those bullets go up for planes. Most everything

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<v Speaker 2>that we did, ninety some percent was at night. We

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<v Speaker 2>had a few daytime attacks. The comic Causa that hit

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<v Speaker 2>the destroyer was daytime. There was there was only a

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<v Speaker 2>they must have come of cruiser because there was only

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<v Speaker 2>four flew in and we got knocked all of them

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<v Speaker 2>down except the one comic cause that they hit that

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<v Speaker 2>crashed into the destroyer and you just see all of

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<v Speaker 2>those bullets from about fifty ships uh going up in

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<v Speaker 2>the air. There was quite a show. I hate to

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<v Speaker 2>say that show that something you'd never see but one

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<v Speaker 2>time in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>The battle also stays with Beard in another way, as

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell, perhaps by the volume of his voice,

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<v Speaker 1>he struggles to hear well, and part of that is

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<v Speaker 1>due to a military oversight towards Beard and many other

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<v Speaker 1>gunners during World War Two.

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<v Speaker 2>The trouble wiz that there are me. Your Navy did

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<v Speaker 2>not issue troop here in age until Vietnam, so so

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<v Speaker 2>in World War Two in Korea we didn't have here

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<v Speaker 2>in age.

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<v Speaker 1>Beard just gave us an excellent description of his actions

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<v Speaker 1>fighting off Japanese air raids and Kamakazi's suicide bombings. Ewojima

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<v Speaker 1>is often referred to as the bloodiest battle in the

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific because of the incredibly high casualty rate for American forces.

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<v Speaker 1>Nearly seven thousand Americans died on Ewojima, an island of

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<v Speaker 1>just eight square miles. Twenty thousand were wounded. The Battle

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<v Speaker 1>of Okinawa registered a devastating toll of twelve thousand Americans

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<v Speaker 1>lost in a battle that raged for more than two months.

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<v Speaker 1>Some forty nine thousand more Americans were wounded. While the

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<v Speaker 1>battle on Okinawa continued, Beard and his shipmates were tasked

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<v Speaker 1>with scouting a nearby island where the Japanese had recently

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<v Speaker 1>been seen. But when they actually explored the place, Beard

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<v Speaker 1>and his buddies were in for a big surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>We made about three trips to Okinawa. The second one

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<v Speaker 2>there was another island called i he Shima. We were

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<v Speaker 2>going to have an attacked on that, and we went

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<v Speaker 2>over there and they were bumming it and they were

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<v Speaker 2>ruckus was going in on it. The Marie went in.

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<v Speaker 2>No Japanese. The ages of the island said they moved

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<v Speaker 2>out two days ago, and they moved out. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>at night to the other islands where there was fighting

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<v Speaker 2>going on somewhere. I know where they got out, but

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<v Speaker 2>they say they left the island. And then then we

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<v Speaker 2>went back to Taipan again. As I told you, we

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<v Speaker 2>brought the navy in, and then we went back for

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<v Speaker 2>troopers again and brought them back. So we made through

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<v Speaker 2>trips to Okinawa, including one to Lady in the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 1>The Battle of Okinawa was one of the last major

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<v Speaker 1>battles in the Pacific Theater of World War two. The

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<v Speaker 1>war came to an end just two months later after

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<v Speaker 1>the US drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese announced their surrender just six days after the second blast,

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<v Speaker 1>with the formal surrender taking place in early September. Beard

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<v Speaker 1>says when the news of the Japanese surrender came in,

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<v Speaker 1>he and the rest of his crew were busy preparing

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<v Speaker 1>for what they thought would be the final and most

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<v Speaker 1>costly battle of the war.

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<v Speaker 2>We will own our way to how Waiiat and we

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<v Speaker 2>were told at that time we fought with having invade Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>we will own our way to pick up troops. Forty

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<v Speaker 2>invasion of Japan. And then we heard the first toomaic

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<v Speaker 2>Oabama was dropped, and then we heard the second was

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<v Speaker 2>dropped on our way to Hawaii, and then we heard

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<v Speaker 2>the japan had surrendered. He said, oh boy, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get to go home. Well, we got there, picked up

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<v Speaker 2>a truck and company and headed for Japan and went

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<v Speaker 2>to Sasebo round on the side between Sasibo and North

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<v Speaker 2>Korea in that area, and then we went to the Philippines,

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<v Speaker 2>picked up a group and took them to Wakayama. Then

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<v Speaker 2>we went back and got another load and took them

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<v Speaker 2>to Niguoy Navy group that time to Negoya because that's

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<v Speaker 2>a seaport. After that, it was time that I had

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<v Speaker 2>to start discharging, sending people home, and went to the

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<v Speaker 2>back to the Philippines, and I was a yeoman. I

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<v Speaker 2>was in charge him because we had already transferred to

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<v Speaker 2>other yeoman to Philadelphia, so I had to transfer all

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<v Speaker 2>of them off my mos. Being a yeoman, I was frozen,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I was Navy reserved, because they had to

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<v Speaker 2>keep all yeoman to muster out everybody in the States

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<v Speaker 2>or wherever there was at. So I had to go

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<v Speaker 2>with the LST and we get in Samarrow, the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 2>I decommissioned the LST and turned it over to the

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<v Speaker 2>Philippine government and they were going to use it for

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<v Speaker 2>supply ship for the mind sweepers, cleaning out all the

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<v Speaker 2>mines and everything in there before I could go home.

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<v Speaker 1>After the war, Beard came home and eventually left the Navy,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't long before he was back in uniform,

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<v Speaker 1>this time as an enlisted man in the US Army.

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<v Speaker 1>He joined the Army on Labor Day nineteen forty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a couple of years later, Beard found himself back

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<v Speaker 1>at war, this time in Korea. However, in that conflict,

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<v Speaker 1>he served in a non combat role, working mostly in

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<v Speaker 1>finances for the army. But as years passed, Beard started

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<v Speaker 1>to focus again on combat and quickly rose in the

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<v Speaker 1>enlisted ranks. Beard explains how quickly he was promoted and

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<v Speaker 1>tells us about the assignment that led to his tour

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<v Speaker 1>of duty in Vietnam. In nineteen sixty seven and sixty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I was the command sergeant major. I made command Target major,

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<v Speaker 2>but as soon as almost it open. I was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the youngest command sergeant majors in the Army. I

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<v Speaker 2>made it when I just had fifteen year servers and

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<v Speaker 2>my unit was signed to the first cab Division feel

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<v Speaker 2>Our Chillery in n k and we had firing batters

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen sixty seven and sixty eight were some of the

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<v Speaker 1>toughest years of the Vietnam War, and Beard definitely dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with his share of tragic moments. You just heard him

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<v Speaker 1>explain the gun batteries he commanded. However, one night enemy

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<v Speaker 1>forces infiltrated the perimeter of one of those batteries.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay what it was with Derick quinnyon and they came

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<v Speaker 2>in and did Viet Kung cut the wire and crawled

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<v Speaker 2>in under the wire and started shooting, and we killed

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<v Speaker 2>every one of them there was. There was over one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred of them came in on our little fire batter.

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<v Speaker 1>The Vietcong forces were all eliminated that night, but not

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<v Speaker 1>before thirteen Americans were killed. Beard got the news the

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<v Speaker 1>next morning and immediately went to the site of the

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<v Speaker 1>sneak attack along with the colonel he served under.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't with him, I was in base camp well. First.

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<v Speaker 2>The first Calves Division was located between Cambodia and Quinnyon.

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<v Speaker 2>We caught a chopper the colonel now and flew up

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<v Speaker 2>there earlier the next morning. We didn't know it to

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know it until earlier the next morning. They

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<v Speaker 2>told me real quick that that we had a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of guys killed. The colonel said, get ready, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to fly up there, and we went. We him and

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<v Speaker 2>I flew up there to see nothing we could do.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, that our people that was killed was already

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<v Speaker 2>transported into Quinnyon, which they had a hospital, and take

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<v Speaker 2>it in there, but they were all dead.

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<v Speaker 1>The other difficult moment from Vietnam that clearly stays with

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<v Speaker 1>Delmar Beard is the death of that same colonel who

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<v Speaker 1>was also lost in a shocking manner.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to say it. He was a real nice colonel.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed working for him, but he was sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a glory on him. And the WARN officer flew up

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<v Speaker 2>to Touriwa and there was an infiltration there. The vietnase

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<v Speaker 2>was only on the base and he told the WARN

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<v Speaker 2>officer to let's laying down there in the island. And

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<v Speaker 2>the one officer told him, you don't want to land

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<v Speaker 2>down there. The viat COR's down there, he said, I

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<v Speaker 2>said to land, And as soon as he landed and

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<v Speaker 2>hit the four, he got a bullet right in the head.

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<v Speaker 2>The warner warn auser naturally took off right quick and

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<v Speaker 2>came back to base camp. It was just a little

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<v Speaker 2>little bad miss decision he made to land down there,

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<v Speaker 2>because we had had two at base camp in k

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<v Speaker 2>One was in our motor pools right across the little

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<v Speaker 2>road from me. I went across there and saw and

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<v Speaker 2>I went in and called detok our little base camp there,

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<v Speaker 2>and they came down and sort of quit then. And

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<v Speaker 2>we have a fan where we can get of one

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<v Speaker 2>hit and you can test and see the direction and

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<v Speaker 2>how far that mortar came in. So then we radio

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<v Speaker 2>up on the fire batter to shoot out there where

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<v Speaker 2>they were at.

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<v Speaker 1>With roughly a quarter century of service in the Navy

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<v Speaker 1>and Army combined, there as much for Delmar Beard to

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<v Speaker 1>be proud of, but he quickly points to his time

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<v Speaker 1>in combat, both in World War Two and Vietnam as

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<v Speaker 1>the most meaningful for him.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to say it was being even Jima, Korea

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<v Speaker 2>and Oakland, not career so much because I was in

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<v Speaker 2>base camp and in Korea, I had an administrative job and headquarters.

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<v Speaker 2>In Korea, I had no combat. But if Eva, Jima,

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<v Speaker 2>Oklanawa and First Calf Division was the thing I was

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<v Speaker 2>most proud of that I served in combat.

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<v Speaker 1>His advice for young people and especially young service members

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<v Speaker 1>is to meet as many people and forge as many

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<v Speaker 1>professional relationships as possible, because he says that will benefit

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<v Speaker 1>you throughout your career. He says, even eighty years after

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two, he's still giving that advice.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny that you asked that. Being Navy, I went

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<v Speaker 2>up and talked to the Navy, get people to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from Norfolk, the captain, the lieutenant, and they listed me

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<v Speaker 2>in and I told them all about a Korea and

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<v Speaker 2>what we did in Vietnam, and they were wonderful why

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<v Speaker 2>they sent us to such meetings that in this we

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<v Speaker 2>could be back doing our job. I said, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how important it is to get out to know

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<v Speaker 2>people because you don't know how much they can help

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<v Speaker 2>you in time to come. I said, I got to

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<v Speaker 2>know people that helped me in my signments, help me

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<v Speaker 2>in promotions and everything because I used them later on

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<v Speaker 2>in my career. I said, don't turn anything down if

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<v Speaker 2>you can go out and know people. I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>got to know colonel in Korea and I used him

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<v Speaker 2>in Vietnam. When I came back from Vietnam, I had

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<v Speaker 2>orders to go to Fort w Yuka, Arizona, and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to go there. I wanted to go back

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<v Speaker 2>to Fort Seal because my family was there and I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to retire. And I got my orders from

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<v Speaker 2>DA I wrote them a letter and said, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be retiring in a couple of years. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>get my orders seen back to Fort Seal because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to retire. In nineteen seventy, I got a letter

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<v Speaker 2>signed by a major said your assignment stands firm. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew the guy, I knew the colonel and fort seal.

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<v Speaker 2>I called him and told him. He called DA and

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<v Speaker 2>got my orders change. I said things like that will

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<v Speaker 2>help you in time to come. So don't turn down

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<v Speaker 2>going to deceivers, to swee of meetings like you came here.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll learn some information that heppy if you just listen.

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<v Speaker 1>And Beard says, despite all the difficulty and the harrowing

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<v Speaker 1>moments he faced, he's very thankful to have served the

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<v Speaker 1>United States in uniform.

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<v Speaker 2>I've enjoyed my service. I enjoyed everything about it. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a good twenty six year career, and if I

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<v Speaker 2>had to do it over a good again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's del Mar Beard. He's a US Navy veteran of

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two and the critical battles of Ewojima and Okinawa.

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<v Speaker 1>He later joined the US Army, served an administrative role

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<v Speaker 1>in theater during the Korean War, and later rose to

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<v Speaker 1>command sergeant major and was in charge of a series

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<v Speaker 1>of gun batteries during his tour in Vietnam from nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty seven to nineteen sixty eight. I'm Greg Corumbus, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is Veterans Chronicles Hi, this is Greg Corumbus and

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