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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to a Friday

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happy hour hang with myself, Chuck Mockler and Adam Oslin

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til Maya Zari supposedly joining us later to talk about

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his awesome exclusive about Zoo that came out earlier that

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I am going to put in this chat. We're here

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today to talk about We're talking about Zoo. We're not

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talking about anything else. We're destressing from the last couple

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difficult weeks of being a Clippers fan. Adam, how are

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you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay, trying to distress, a little frustrated. Couldn't get

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my headphones working earlier. But you know what, Media Day's Monday.

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A lot to look forward to. Meet to Zubos in

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a big, big season at the age of twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, for those of you who didn't know, media

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Day is on Monday, which it's gonna be an interesting one.

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I'm I think we're gonna hear when this is all

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we're really gonna talk about this particular subject. We're not

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even gonna say the proper downs for it. We're gonna

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hear a lot of corporate speak at media Day, which

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is usual for the Clippers. It won't be anything new.

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Just don't expect any bombshells. I would say to fans

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who are maybe hoping for some kind of large moment,

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I don't think it's happening on Monday. You'll be there

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on Monday as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Lawrence Frank is set to speak before

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any of the players, so yeah, maybe he'll address it

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and that'll be it. And I'm sure any questions directed

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towards players that have anything to do with the NBA investigation,

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well thank for me. Yeah, put out by saying, hey,

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should I be an investigation going on? Man? What do

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you expect anybody to say? Nobody's gonna say.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite media day? Random question? Do

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you have a favorite media day?

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Speaker 2: A favorite media day?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know who this is. I hope it's

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still mare.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The one where Doc didn't show up and didn't speak

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to the media, just from a purely dramatic angle, was

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my favorite.

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Speaker 2: I like what Mike Scott said from the outside looking

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in on this Clippers team, they ain't no bitious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was a fun time. This is Joseph trying

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to join the stream. But yeah, I'm excited. I'm looking

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forward to media day. I will not be able to

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be there because I have to be at work, but

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Adam will be covering everything you need and we'll be

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doing an episode later in the week, kind of breaking

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down how it went. Joseph iya Ward is trying to

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join the stream. We are hearing the tones. We're doing

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our best. Okay. So this is actually a great question

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from that Mexican Narra that I want to I wanted

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to talk about. We loved Zoo's year last year. His

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usage was great. It felt like it was coming together.

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Do we think the additions of Brook and Collins, I

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would say and beale just in terms of mouths to feed.

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How are we feeling about that as of September twenty sixth,

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twenty years twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, We've talked about it a little bit before, but

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I do have concerns over Aviats' zubos getting lost in

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the shuffle per usual. Really seems like he took some

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major strides, and as did the Clippers really last season

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with getting him more involved consistently finally and bade dividence

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as any of us thought it would if they ever

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played through beats the zoobox a little bit more so

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I don't want to see his usage going down. I

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think naturally it could. He may end up playing under

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thirty minutes this season, just because they have a very

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capable backup in Broke Lopez. But if that keeps him healthier,

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if that keeps him fresher, So when he's out there,

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he's always giving maximum I want to say maximum effort.

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But he's closer to the peak of his abilities because

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he's fresh. That's great. That could make him even more dangerous.

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So Joseph in the stream, Yeah, he's in.

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Speaker 1: I also thank you for letting me use respect him sometimes. Yeah,

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I wanted to look up we're talking Zoo and his

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usage next year with the new additions. I was going

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to look up his usage rate right now, just so

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we have some kind of Yeah, his usage in twenty

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three twenty four sixteen and a half percent, twenty four

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to twenty five nineteen and a half percent, his highest

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since eighteen nineteen. How do you feel about Big Zoo's year? Also,

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please drive safe? I will.

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Speaker 3: I almost put a mint in, like I'm not doing

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an audio medium right now.

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Speaker 1: We pop them in in. I think it's okay, No,

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it's good. It's gonna be good talking well, you know anyway, So.

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Speaker 3: Obviously Zu did what we I think a lot of

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people clamored for him to do for so long, and

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I think he even exceeded the expectations of many. Not me, though,

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I am hoping to see the usage great trend continue,

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uh And I'm looking for a season twenty four maybe

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twenty five percent.

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Speaker 1: I don't think twenty five percent, Adam your take on

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twenty five percent.

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Speaker 2: I'd sign up for nineteen percent again with just how

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much they've improved the team this summer, specifically in the

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front court. But that's okay. I think he could still

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even if he gets the ball less, like I think

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a beast to Zubots is more comfortable in his role

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and the Clippers are more comfortable with getting him involved

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and knowing where he needs to be, so he can

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still just be a more efficient player overall, even if

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he does get a few less touches.

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Speaker 1: Do we think he finally has a longer leash? Like defensively,

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he was so great last year. He was getting you know,

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all defensive team talk and all that stuff. Like at

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this point, I don't want to fool myself. He's got

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to have the full trust, respect, whatever word you want

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to use from Tayloon to go out there and do

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the right stuff. Even if he hit some kind of

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a wall.

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Speaker 2: I think he had it last year. He's closed games

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like I don't think that was an issue at all. Now,

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if coach Lou falls in love with John Collins playing

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small ball at the starting five to close out games,

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or Brook Lopez is having a big game shooting.

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Speaker 1: Guise playing together, you got you got brooklets the four

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with the five obviously Hawiet the two. Yeah, well that

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if he's still on the team.

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Speaker 2: We don't know.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're not. There was no news this week, so

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we're not talking about it.

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Speaker 3: I needed to get Kawi takes off my chest. I

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have been in a box not able to talk about

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this for so long.

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Speaker 1: But it's okay, Well, well we'll ignore it a couple

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when you got to get out of here. I just

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I am ignoring it this week because I have coworkers

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who are like and I don't want to get into it.

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It's been a stressful week at the museum with people

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who know nothing about sports giving me their.

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Speaker 3: Last classic museum water cooler talk is cap curcument.

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Speaker 1: Apparently, now this is the hell we live in. I

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think Zoo. Yeah, Joseph, for you out on the trust

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from Tyler, I think Adams right. I like that point

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he was closing games he played. I mean, it was

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his best season ever, Like it would be hard to

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not have the trust. No, he should have it.

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Speaker 3: He should have it, and I and I trust that

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he does have it. However, I do not trust Tylo

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and the center position Flatley period, end of story. Don't

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think that man has a grasp.

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Speaker 1: On what to do with that position.

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Speaker 3: So I think it'll be better, but I don't think

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that it's like fixed, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: The depth is a lot better, which helps it bet

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Like that makes my me sleep so much easier at night.

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Speaker 2: And there's less an excuse not to play with the

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traditional big which Hylu could get away with before because

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they didn't have somebody of the quality of Brook Lopez

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backing up of Eats Zubots.

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Speaker 3: He can make mistakes, but they should have better outcomes

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than they have in the past.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they still I'm excited to see Aviata, Zoobots

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and James Harden in another full season after another off

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season together does wonders for his big men. He was

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great for beats Zubots last season. I still think Zoo

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has been wildly underused throughout most of his tenure with

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the Clippers, and last year they finally gave him the

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ball more and it worked. And I don't think he

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became a different player over last summer. But they can

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keep refining things those two working in tandem, and they

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could get a little bit cleaner and maybe there's less

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turnovers at the end of games. We saw a start

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off last season before Kawai came back with the James Harden,

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So just that familiarity and building more chemistry with those

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two can only be good for this team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like what you said, and I like this point.

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I guess I don't like this point from Johnny sixty

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to six because I thought Zoo's passing was really good

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last year out of the short Roald team, I thought

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he did improve his passing. Now with the starting lineup,

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you have more shooters. He Zoo can pass to right,

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like there's more spacing. Someone brought this u U Punk's

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gone wrong, said with more shooters on the court. Joseph

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sat of here. He said, with more shooters on the court,

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is there more room in the paint for Zoo to work,

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which I think is totally true. I think Zoo's passing

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is good enough to where guys, you know, when an

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extra guy can't come over and try and bat out

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of his hands or something that kind of like that

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defense like that the MAVs would play in those series

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where they just wouldn't get foul calls that he'd just

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get beat to hell. There's more guys to operate and

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receive a pass from Zoo from in the art, which

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has been really excited. I don't think he's going to

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average like six assists, but he might average four, which

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would be his highest I think, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I guess it depends on how much Chris Done is

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playing compared to last year. How much is.

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Speaker 1: Four would be a lot? He averaged, sorry, he averaged

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almost three assists last year, which was double his of

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any other year, So I think you could get to

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four and a half assists. I would love that for Zo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if he's more of a threat, I mean,

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that only helps open up the game for others out there.

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So I do think his reputation precedes him a little

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bit where teams have to key in on him and

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focus on him a little bit more and he can

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use that to his advantage with getting some easy passes

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and getting some easy assists. Uh. And he is, as

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you mentioned now, the short role. Especially last season, he

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was making the right decision, he was making quick decisions.

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So that's only going to get better from him. And yeah,

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they could have one more shooter on the floor a

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little bit more often than they had last season. But

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again there's there can be a trade off there on

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the defensive end, as much as people are saying because

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of what happened in the playoffs with Chris Dunn and

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that was the last we saw from him that he

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needs to play less and they need more shooting out there.

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You got to understand, this team made their bones on

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the defensive end last season, so I don't want to

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see them chip away too much at that identity. If

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they're so good offensively, maybe it won't matter. But I

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just it was really nice to have a team where

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you knew exactly what you were getting, at least on

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one side of the ball each and every night. Last year.

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Speaker 1: You were getting elite. Yeah, Scott Tran brings up a

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good point. Hopefully Zoom improves his free throw percentage this season.

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Last season was an anomaly for his free throw percentage.

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Speaker 2: Think he started really slow. He picked it up the

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second half exactly.

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Speaker 1: He shot sixty six percent from the line, which is

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which was his worst mark since he was a rookie,

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since he was nineteen years old. I think last year

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was an anomaly. He was at seventy two percent. The

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year before that seventy percent, seventy three, seventy nine. Like

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he's he will be above seventy percent, you know what.

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he was taking three a game last year. It's not

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it didn't. I mean, obviously it would have been nice

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for him to have a better percentage, but the Clippers

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didn't lose games because he was missing freeze. But I

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hope it bounces back, I think, Scott, I totally agree

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with you here. I hope it bounces back.

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Speaker 2: He shot seventy one percent the last twenty eight games

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post All Star Break. I'm not overly concerned about it

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at all. I think it was in his head a

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little bit early on. You could see there's some frustration

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at the line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can tell when Ze's frustrated, which I

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kind of like, like when he got subbed out that.

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I don't think it was that series against that first

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playoff series against the Warriors where it was like, oh,

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he's not ready to play defense against this kind of

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team yet. It might he like slammed the chair or

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something like that, and he doesn't show a lot of emotion,

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or at least he didn't at that time. It's nice

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to see him like really feel it, I guess, because

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you can tell he wants to improve, as he has

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every year he's been on the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's been demonstrative at times the last few

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years when he feels like I think he's doing his

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part defensively and guys aren't rotating. He's gotten into it

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with Kawhi at times. I think all that stuff's good

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because it shows how tight knit this team is. Or

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if you can see guys or if you do see

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guys being that animated with one another, and then you

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know the next game or the next time in the huddle,

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it's already calm down.

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Speaker 1: I need more of this pose here though, if I'm

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being honest, I need more of the the shrug. It's

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what I'm looking for next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's a team that moves on very

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quickly because everybody knows their teammate is rooting for them

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and they are a close knit group. But a Visa

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Zubos also gets a really bad whistle, and sometimes sometimes

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as much as it's fair to complain about, because I

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think he's gotten a really bad whistle at times. Sometimes

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he lets it eat it him for a couple of

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possessions and yeah, some bad body language out there. Downside.

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Speaker 1: He can sulk a little bit. I have my dad's

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side of the family is a sulk family. He can

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he sulks a little bit, but it's because he cares

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and he bounces back. Like you mentioned, he's usually incredibly consistent, right, Like,

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it's not like he sulks and then it's like he's

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missing gimmes or something like that. For the most part.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and yes, you guys, is Michael Scott saying in

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here an extremely.

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Speaker 1: That horrible whistle, one of the worst other than when

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Paul George was good and on the Clippers. Uh zoo

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gets the worst whistle of anyone on the Clippers in

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the two one three era.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think so he gets hacked. I

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mean it's the old shack theory where they let little

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guys get a little bit more handsy with bigger players because.

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Speaker 1: They're pounding on a door.

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Speaker 2: Basically, Yeah, Alex Caruso versus Nikola jokicch in the second round,

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they let him get away with all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he hit him with like a crippler

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crossface at one point, and they were like, this, Caruso

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is so scrappy. You get that, you get that defensive

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that like that first team All defense if you're small

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guard and you can just whack the shit out of people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, his rep definitely helped him get away with a

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lot Morgan's bigger guys than you know kis as we

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saw but a Visa Zubas last season. If that's the

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start of his peak or the start of him reaching

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his prime, I think we're we're in for some really

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exciting play at the center position between him and Brook

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Lopez this year. That's a real strength. How many teams

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have a better one two punch at center than the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, this is a very funny bad nickname. Zoob Dual

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Jachim O'Neil perfect love that. Yeah, I can't tell you

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how excited I am for competent backup center minutes. It's

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been since Isaiah Hartenstein it has been a nightmare. There

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has not been a good back up center who's like

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still in the league in any capacity in which they're

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playing minutes to kind of really help the team. You know,

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like how many ex Clippers centers are on like exhibit

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tens now or something like that. At least two Kay

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Jones and Moses Brown I know of like and.

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Speaker 2: Brook Lopez is starting center caliber. Yeah, he could have

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gone somewhere else and been a starting center this season.

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Maybe if he goes to the Lakers, they don't know

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getting DeAndre and he's their starting center. You know, he

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was doing it for over thirty minutes a game last

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year in Milwaukee. He's a couple of years removed from

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being second in Defensive Player of the Year. He may

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be thirty seven, but he still moves well out there,

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and he's so savvy. It's a smart, cerebral player that

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at fifteen to twenty minutes a night, you're really going

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to get the best out of him. Now backing up

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Big Zoo, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited Michael Scott. Most people thought he wasn't tall

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that was our Twitter account's best tweet with romantic Oh

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you know you don't think Moses Brown is.

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Speaker 2: Hitting next securing out dul Jabbar for all the haters

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and say that tall so good?

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Speaker 1: That was his peak on the Clippers. Was your tweet

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about him. I'm excited too. Defensively because like offensively with

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backup centers, you know, you had Mason Plumley doing behind

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the back passes and like just a bunch of weird,

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like like a Tony Rotent impression. And defensively, backup center

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is like the worst position defensively in the NBA. Like

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there's not a lot of backup centers who are even

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just okay at defense. Like your backup center is usually

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just a sieve. And so now we have a guy

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who is very much not a sieve and able to

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like help. It's gonna help the bench as a whole

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so much that the guy at you know, in the

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dunker spot or whatever is going to be able to

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play above average, if not just average defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a point we've kind of been making over

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the last year that as much as people complain about

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the Clippers backup center situation, you look across the league

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and it's uh, it's album throughout.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the best backup center other than Robert than

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Lopez right now? Than Brook.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. I mean Isaiah Hartenstein, He's.

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Speaker 1: So good, so it's I mean, Heart's better than Lopez.

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I don't think anyone EG. Four thousand not listening for

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the real listeners who remember EG.

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Speaker 2: I honestly, I think it's pretty close. Now, Isaiah does

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start a lot next to Chet, that's true. He's not

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a three point shooter, at least he hasn't shown that yet.

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Like Brook Lopez, he doesn't have that dimension to him.

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Speaker 1: He's gotten better defensively.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look at still post defense numbers, I

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think Brook Lopez hasn't beat there. Honestly, it's closed. He's younger,

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so that that is meaningful. But I was looking, you know,

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a Beata Zubots on off splits, they're twelve. They're almost

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thirteen points per one hundred possessions better with a Beata

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Zubots on the floor versus off. So it's just this

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huge swing last year with Zuo without Abata Zubots and

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now for the first time since they had Hartenstein and

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they had a top ten defense that year in twenty

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one to twenty two, and I think it's because they

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had him coming in off the bench. So for the

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first time since then, you have more continuity between I

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mean styles of play. Was still having a traditional big

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man out there, although he can stretch the floor a

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little bit, but traditional rent protector out there. That probably

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is the best case for the best argument for why

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they could keep a top five defense this season, even

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if they're playing Chris Dunn and Derek Jones less. Just

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the fact that you have a backbone with your second

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unit with Brook Lopez, that's meaningful.

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Speaker 1: Those on off numbers make so much sense because the

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Clippers backup centers last year was a triumvent of Mobamba,

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Drew Eubanks and Kai Jones, three guys not necessarily known

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to be defensive stalwarts.

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Speaker 2: No, and so if Zubats is playing less minutes.

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Speaker 1: Australia's own because you got.

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Speaker 2: Brook Lopez playing eighteen to twenty minutes a night, that's okay. Yeah,

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I would love I think long term and the long

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game with the Viatza Zubats is if this is one

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of your core pieces and we know he is and

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he's on our team, friendly deal this is one of

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your core pieces moving forward. You want to extend his

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prime and his longevity as much as you can, so

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having somebody that take the burden off him, even though

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he's just twenty eight and it's like, yeah, he's in

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his prime, let him run. It's like maybe the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's a lot of pro basketball even though

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how young you are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to keep as much tread on his

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tires as possible moving forward, and I think Brook Lopez

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helps with that and maybe that can help Aviatza Zubats

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have a longer and also higher peak for longer with

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this Clippers team.

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Speaker 1: I like that you're talking about longevity with Zoo and

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his legacy with the Lopez edition. I also love what

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it does potentially for his playoff minutes because Lopez, we've

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we all love Zoo on this pod, but the conditioning

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has been something that it's a thing, right, Like there

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was a reason why he didn't play a bunch of

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minutes for some seasons because the conditioning or whatever wasn't

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where it needed to be so he could play at

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the high level. We know he can for that much

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that many minutes. Now it's like, well, now in the playoffs,

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maybe we get maybe we get the thirty five minutes Zoo,

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you know what I mean, Like Lopez can save some

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regular season miles, which is huge for a guy like Zoo,

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and like CP three can save some a little bit

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for Harden in terms of initiating the offense. Also, what

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a five.

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Speaker 2: Well even last year in that first round series, I

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think Zoo was averaging around maybe even more than thirty

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five per game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but whatever, whatever the more would be, you know

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what I mean, Like it's he'll be fresher. I'm I'm

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excited for that.

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Speaker 2: He was almost a thirty seven. Well yeah, it.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't just Drew Banks, but he was.

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Speaker 2: It's not like we saw Vista Zubos wear down and

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by the end of games Nikola jokicch was more effective

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against him. He was steady. He was steadily, very good

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against Jokich, as good as you can be throughout that

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entire series. So I'm not too concerned with it. But yeah,

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you're gonna get a better version of Vitza Zubots the

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more gas he has left in the tank, and Brook

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Lopez can provide that.

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Speaker 1: I like this question. We don't do a lot of

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debate stuff on this show because we're I don't know,

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chill guys. I guess uh shar is asking Zoo or Cat.

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It's a good question.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. I used to get into it with a

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guy about Zoo versus savonas Oh.

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Speaker 1: I know, I've seen I know her anyway. Sorry, give

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me the guy who can actually play like the real

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center position all day.

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Speaker 2: Well up until this year. Sabonis has a bunch of

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numbers and he's like Jokic light. You could make that argument,

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but to me, I always said, I want a guy

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that can play the five, and I trust as being

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a defensive stalwart and anchor there because it means so

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much to your defense, and I think it beats the

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Zubats always projected better on a championship team. I don't

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think you can win a championship with Sabonis being your

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number one player or your number two player, because that

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means he's playing forty minutes a night. He's not a

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great rim protector out there. He's a little bit undersized.

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He is a good rebounder, but some of those stats

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look a little bit fu gayzy to me with sabone,

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who I do love as a player.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he gets. I feel like Sis gets like

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those rebounds that like Steph would get as a guard,

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like he gets like guard rebounds. If that makes sense. Yeah.

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I would also say you mentioned he is Sabonis light,

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I would say he is diet or he is a

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joker light. I would say he is diet caffeine free joker.

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He is you know what I mean, He's at can

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where you're like, I've never seen this before.

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Speaker 2: Say diet. But I think there are similarities between him

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and Cat. Cat also maybe even a worse defender than Sabonis,

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a better offensive player I think overall, because he gets

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more proven with stretching the floor.

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Speaker 1: It's real, that's real, and his most game is good.

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Speaker 2: I have the same questions about Kat at the highest level.

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Can you win with him playing the five in an

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MBAL series? Maybe, but you know they want to play

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00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:08,960
him next to Mitchell Robinson at the four, and he

476
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:10,880
can do that because he can stretch the floor.

477
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: I just I don't know.

478
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: He's less of a traditional big to me, and that's

479
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:24,640
what I value. Even though yes, the OKC Thunder they

480
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:29,559
had Chet, they had Isaiah Hartenstein. Chet's still very raw.

481
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,400
But those guys, you know, they're pretty unique. Uh, and

482
00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:37,440
their defense was so good and chets are really good,

483
00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:41,480
especially help side defender. And he can still improve with

484
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:44,279
his one on one defense, but he's still much better

485
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:47,480
than Cat overall on the defensive end. Yeah, while maybe

486
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:51,519
not being the traditional center that I'm talking about here

487
00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:53,720
with the beats zubas, like, he still gets it done

488
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:56,519
for you. I can't rely on non defensive big men

489
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,920
winning a championship for me.

490
00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: I like that, Meara. He gets into foul trouble some

491
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:06,359
of those fouls in the playoffs from Cat, like he's

492
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,240
running it again. He's like a guy's behind you know

493
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:11,039
what I mean. Like there were some fouls from Cat

494
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:14,119
where it's like, now, say what you want to say

495
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,519
with Kat with a coach like Van Gundy, but right

496
00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:21,079
now his decision making on defense, This is a great point.

497
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:24,079
He gets into foul trouble a lot if you have

498
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,680
in weird ways like not like he's trying to make

499
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:30,440
plays that make sense, they're just they're foolish fouls. And

500
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,200
I love he's very good. I'm not, but like, this

501
00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:34,279
is a good point, Nara.

502
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,119
Speaker 2: If you're talking about a play in level team talent wise,

503
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,240
and you need somebody to be your number one option

504
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,960
and carry them to the playoffs as a very low

505
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:50,440
seed cast. The better option there if you want to

506
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,319
win at the highest level, I think it might be

507
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,279
of Eats a Zubos. Now, he's not going to be

508
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:58,279
your number one or even number two option there. But

509
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:02,920
I don't think Cat can do that honestly, So I'd

510
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,880
rather have Zoo as a compliment than.

511
00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:06,599
Speaker 1: Count is your one.

512
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and have a different number one or number two

513
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,599
and Aviata Zoo Bots is at least holding things down

514
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,480
on the defensive end.

515
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: I I like that point. Yeah, Zoo is your as

516
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,599
a foundational piece. I think you put on the last

517
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,599
slight we did with Resso, which is a great way

518
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,160
to reference Zoo. He's a foundational piece for the team.

519
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:34,720
Versus paying Cat thirty whatever percentage of your cap, Yeah,

520
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:36,599
I would feel a lot better about that.

521
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,359
Speaker 2: All this was not even taking into account how much

522
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,839
more Cat makes than a Beata Zoo Bots. But that's

523
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,279
also it's huge to think about.

524
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:50,119
Speaker 1: Zoo makes twenty million dollars a year. We have him

525
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,319
locked up until twenty seven, twenty eight. He has an

526
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,359
unrestricted free agent when he's thirty one years old. I'm

527
00:30:56,359 --> 00:31:00,240
the Clippers aim to have that cap space. So he's

528
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,799
at twenty million dollars a year. Kat is at a

529
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:11,799
cool fifty fifty three next year fifty seven sixty one

530
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:15,519
million dollar player option twenty seven to twenty eight. So

531
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,519
the value Zoo is and I know that money is

532
00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:23,200
weird right now in the NBA, Zoo is a borderline

533
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:26,200
value contract at twenty.

534
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:29,599
Speaker 2: Million dollars a year, like, I think he's probably the

535
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,799
best deal in the NBA. Honestly, I think he's at

536
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,480
least all first team best deals in the NBA.

537
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: I was just going to make a joke that would

538
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,480
have hurt all of our feelings. I have an idea

539
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:45,759
it is all with this, but I think you know

540
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:47,960
I would say, well, not until Kawhi gets his contract

541
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,519
void and has to sign for the minimum. I'm sorry,

542
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,359
I don't think that's going to happen, but the joke

543
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:55,759
was there.

544
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: All this is probably mood because New York ideally, I

545
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:05,000
think would want Kat at the Ford, Mitchell Robinson playing

546
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:07,960
the five, so we're not even comparing at four. Five

547
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:11,799
too eats Zoo bots in this case, they're very different players.

548
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Paul Thomas saying saying Zoo is better than Kat is

549
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:19,000
just biased part of it. Yeah, but also.

550
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,319
Speaker 2: Zoo is better as your five. If you want to

551
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,799
win a championship, you have a better chance, not if

552
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:31,240
he's your number one option. But Cat's not going to

553
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:33,200
win as your number one option playing the five.

554
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,839
Speaker 1: Uh it would I would like to see whatever Zoo

555
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,119
looks like as the number one option for a team.

556
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,640
I don't think that team's very good.

557
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: That's why I said as a number one option type,

558
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,480
Cat's going to get you further, but he's still not

559
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:52,119
going to get you a championship. Zoo is a complimentary

560
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,160
piece that's better than having Kat as your number one

561
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,079
option that's not going to win for you.

562
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: What do you mean? It seems like there's some kind

563
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,319
of nuance that I that I'm rejecting from your argument.

564
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,200
I'm seeing it as face value, Zoo is better than Cat.

565
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: I see why we don't do this stuff really well

566
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:21,039
exactly well, I can't see slight differences. As an individual player.

567
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:23,960
You can make the arguments the bonus and Cat are

568
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:26,519
better than it beat to Zoo, boss, But if you're

569
00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:29,440
trying to win at all, could you win with those

570
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:32,160
guys in the type of roles that they're in now,

571
00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:34,720
where they are number one or number two options. I

572
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:35,359
don't think so.

573
00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alex Webb saying, let's hope Zoo jumps up to

574
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:43,519
eighteen nineteen points per game this year. I think there's

575
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:46,720
too many mouths to feed. I don't think Zoo is efficient.

576
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:50,000
The only way that Zoo's getting the nineteen points per

577
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:53,319
game this year is if he shoots like eighty five

578
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:56,759
percent from the floor. And I don't mean like he's

579
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:59,440
just there's just we talked abou a little bit earlier. Yeah,

580
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:04,720
there's just not enough. There's only one ball and he's

581
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:08,239
not going to get enough shots. He took twelve shots

582
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,039
per game last year, he shot sixty three percent. He

583
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,840
averaged seventeen points. So really, what you're asking for is

584
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,880
one more bucket per game, basically, or just a couple

585
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,239
more free throws. So I guess this is possible. But

586
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,320
the attempts, I is he breaking double digit field goal

587
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,800
attempts per game? He was at twelve last year, which

588
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,079
is a lot. His next high is total. His next

589
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,400
highest per game was seven point sixth the year before.

590
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:38,519
It's a big jump.

591
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: I'm interested in looking at the splits because how many

592
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,639
was he taking per game before Kawhi came back? Who

593
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,679
we are crossing our fingers and assuming will be starting

594
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,840
the season with the Clippers this time. So if obviously,

595
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,159
if Kawhi is there, he's taking more shots.

596
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,559
Speaker 1: What was that the first thirty games.

597
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: Or something, right, Kauai?

598
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:04,519
Speaker 1: Yeah?

599
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,199
Speaker 2: Even more?

600
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yeah, man? So I mean, well, let's just

601
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,239
look at the first yeah, I mean thirteen from game

602
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,039
one thirteen, seventeen nineteen. But then any up games where

603
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:23,840
he just take like eight, like it's kind of it's

604
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,800
pretty evenly split, honestly, just a quick scroll here, you

605
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,719
know what I mean. Like because when they were crushing

606
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,199
it at the end of the year. Funnily enough, you

607
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,280
look at from game sixty six to game eighty when

608
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,840
they really went on a tear fourteen eighteen, fourteen ten,

609
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:45,480
fifteen fourteen ten, fourteen seventeen six, Like interesting, how they

610
00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:48,000
were playing very well when he was getting more double

611
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,719
digit field goal attempts.

612
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: Now, this is interesting because in the month of March

613
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,880
he was at thirteen point eight, his highest for any

614
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:10,519
month last season. Kawhi's back and playing at that point, hmmm, that's.

615
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: Good, wee.

616
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:12,079
Speaker 2: That makes me hopeful.

617
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,599
Speaker 1: Right, they were playing better. They played better, not because

618
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:20,880
he had more shots, but they were playing better during

619
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000
the period, which of eats the Zubox was taking more

620
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:25,000
shots per game at least later in the season for

621
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:28,960
the Clippers when they won ship Tunnel games, not to

622
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:31,599
win take it to fifty, he was taking more shots.

623
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,840
It's not a causation, but it is something.

624
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: We may have to remember though, that Norman Powell was

625
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,719
out for a lot of that time.

626
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let's say we already got We already got

627
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:46,239
an injury to a shooter on the team, So I

628
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,519
think we can safely assume that there might be some

629
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:51,800
other guys out too. Guys are going to be out.

630
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: Bradley Beale's only played fifty games the last couple of years.

631
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,039
Speaker 1: And no disrespect of those guys, you know what I mean,

632
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:01,840
Like it's just the Clippers, Like we're old. There's gonna

633
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,679
be some guys out.

634
00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, So how about Avisa Zubats ends up with twelve

635
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,880
or thirteen attempts per game this season and it doesn't

636
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,239
take a step back in attempts.

637
00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: I'd be a static if he ended with eleven point

638
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,719
eight or whatever.

639
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: Again, yeah, I think like just taking the same amount

640
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,760
of shots would be progressed considering how many guys are

641
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,519
around him and are demanding of the ball.

642
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, doing nothing, saying John Collin CB three, Brad beil Brook,

643
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:36,599
How's he gonna have more offensive action? I'm hoping for

644
00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:40,000
the same amount of offensive action. I think that's the success.

645
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:43,719
I think not, you know what I mean? Like a

646
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,599
success is him averaging eleven point eight.

647
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: Again, there was a great line from the late Marty

648
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,960
Schottenheimer in like twenty ten Hard Knocks with the Jets.

649
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks was good also when you would see people

650
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:01,440
but like really going through shit.

651
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: That was with I think they had the terminator out there.

652
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:09,280
John Connor and his son Brian was on the coaching staff,

653
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:14,159
who's now a head coach with Dallas. And you were

654
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,360
talking about Mark Sanchez going into his second year, and

655
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:23,800
Marty Schottenheimer goes, he's a guest of practice, says, if

656
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,280
you can get your second year quarterback to play the

657
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,800
same way as he did his first year, that's progress.

658
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:35,199
Because you're expecting a sophomore slump. You know, you're expecting

659
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,480
him to regress. There's more tape on him, teams are

660
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,280
scouting him, better.

661
00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: He didn't curse when he said that. First. Schottenheimer Paul

662
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:50,039
Thomas with a good point. We just need you to

663
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,159
anchor the defense, especially now since he has to cover

664
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,280
for the new guys more. We don't know how much

665
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,320
he's gonna have to cover for the new guys more.

666
00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:59,199
There will be some coverage, there will be some growing pains.

667
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:01,880
He's one of the guy He's been in the system

668
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,320
the longest in terms of games played, you know, for

669
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:08,559
for a center on this Clippers team with Tylo as

670
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:13,159
the coach, so his value will be felt more on

671
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,119
the defensive end.

672
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: I honestly think, though, and I've been saying this for years,

673
00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:20,760
there's an easier way to win basketball games. It is

674
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,760
getting of Vista Zubas more involved on the offensive end.

675
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,000
I disagree with this point. Yeah, you want a guy

676
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:29,079
shooting over sixty percent from the field that gets you

677
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:30,039
easy buckets.

678
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: How I agree, But that's just not gonna happen.

679
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: Well, just have it happened at the same rate it

680
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,119
did last year. Like, I just don't like to just

681
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,559
have him as the defensive anchor. No, he's a weapon

682
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:46,639
on offense. He has moves, he has hooks with both hands.

683
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:48,039
Speaker 1: He has some.

684
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: Unguardable stuff that he can do out there. We can't

685
00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:52,039
just negate them.

686
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: His footwork, there's just been he's one of the slowest improvers,

687
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,000
and I don't mean that in a bad way. He

688
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:04,760
improves the a that everyone is chasing the outlier, Right.

689
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,800
You want a guy to come into the league and

690
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,039
play like this, and then a second year you want

691
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:12,199
him to go up to top twenty level or whatever.

692
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:17,679
Zoo has been a steady like thirty two to or

693
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,719
you know, like fifteen degree incline, like his whole stretch

694
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,679
right here. So I I agree with the point. I

695
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:30,039
mean his often should be featured more. I'm just prepared.

696
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:33,159
I just hope it's a light point eight.

697
00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 2: Again, you can't peak as a team of Vivitza zu Bots.

698
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,079
Isn't a focal point on offense.

699
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: Because me to be yeah, but a focal point because.

700
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,679
Speaker 2: He offers something they really don't have enough of, just

701
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,320
easy buckets. They don't have a ton of slashers that

702
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:58,000
gets you easy layups. I Vitza's Zubots is that guy

703
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:01,199
that can bump up your overall fuel goal percentage because

704
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:04,880
he's still effiicient near the rim. He beat Jokic from

705
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,679
five to nine feet out last season. He was still

706
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,679
good in that area this past year. Like, what are

707
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,440
we talking about?

708
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 1: Do you think he's making Did he make a a

709
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,119
defensive team last year? Yeah? He was second team All Defense.

710
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: I think he was six and dpoy Yeah, I.

711
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,639
Speaker 1: Think he will all right, do enough and got me

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on this one. I'm still banking on Cambodian Jokic. Hey,

713
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we know we got scouts over there. You know that

714
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the Clippers are finding the next tiny Jokic.

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Speaker 2: There's another part to the equation. Paul Thomas still going,

716
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always going to be exhausted for how hard he has

717
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to work on defense. If you want your big men

718
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:56,039
to defend the rim, you must get him involved on

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the offensive end. That's just how it works. It's human nature.

720
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They give you a better effort on the defensive end

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if you're getting them involved on offense. That's me. It's

722
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a non negotiable beats. Zubas has mismatches all the time.

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You gotta get him going the mismatches. That's what's nice

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with Harden because I feel like Harden recognizes the mismatch.

725
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He said, great, I know how to play basketball. Let's

726
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give the big guy with the ball who's being guarded

727
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:25,880
by the little guy that has unlocked a lot for you.

728
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I think that's probably not a hot take at all, No,

729
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but it's a good one that that's probably the most

730
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sure way of eats a Zuba stays involved because he's

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playing with Harden now and he's going to keep him involved,

732
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and Harden's the one who could have to sacrifice more offensively.

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Speaker 1: Someone mentioned that earlier in the stream. They were like,

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I think they were just saying, like, you know, I

735
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kind of think that Harden will be more of a

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pass first guy with the new starting lineup because we

737
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don't have a you know, we have everyone can kind

738
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of shoot outside of Zoo. Obviously, it's gonna be interesting

739
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,960
to see because Harden's gonna want to make those guys

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feel comfortable early, so he's going to be conscious of

741
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getting them in a rhythm.

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Speaker 2: I think he'll play more like he did when he

743
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,400
first came to the Clippers that first year where Paul

744
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,880
George was still there. Yeah, he was facilitating more picking

745
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,800
and choosing his spots. That's what we're going to see

746
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when this team is fully healthy.

747
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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Richard Cabrera saying, no doubt ZU is a significant upgrade

749
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over KST. I don't know how he can compare a

750
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human to Korean standard time. I will take your word

751
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,559
for it, Richard, I look that up. That is what

752
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:47,119
KST stands, all right, Uh fahad who we were showing,

753
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,480
call them if you have an issue. ZUS should be

754
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:51,880
compared to Kareem. That's it. I hope he brings as

755
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:58,599
many chips uh as Kareem brought. This is an interesting debate.

756
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,960
We'll talk about at midway through the sea.

757
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Speaker 2: Who's the modern day Bruce Lee Bigazoo could be working

758
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out with?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where's that at? Thank you? Punk's gone round for

760
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mentioning that we acknowledge your mention. I'm excited for Zoos season.

761
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I'm excited for basketball to actually start. I think that's

762
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going to be It's very cathartic for all of us.

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Speaker 2: We need No one needs it more.

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Speaker 1: No one. That's a great point. I rambled about this

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on our last live about how the fans are the

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ones getting screwed. So I'm excited for the fans to

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get basketball back, because that is what we should have

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to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Not.

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Speaker 1: Bullshit that the fans have nothing to do with and

771
00:44:52,599 --> 00:45:01,159
would have said, please don't do that. What are you

772
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,559
gonna do if you see Pablotoria media day on one day?

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Speaker 2: Give him the death stare.

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00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:14,679
Speaker 1: I don't know that so funny? Oh, here we go

775
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:20,239
goes figured it out. Zoo can train with Donnie in Yeah,

776
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:26,039
make that happen, Balmber legally make it happen. Let's yeah

777
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,039
the man. Yeah, Donnie is like.

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Speaker 3: Them.

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Speaker 1: I like how riled up Paul Thomas is getting. Paul

780
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:40,559
Thomas cannot take a joke. Don't ever make a joke

781
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:48,480
A Johnny's an r KO Papa. That's very funny. All right,

782
00:45:48,599 --> 00:45:51,280
I have to go pick up a dog that I'm

783
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:57,840
dog sitting. Our other host is in New York tampering,

784
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:03,639
trying to get some stars. Adam, please promote your show

785
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,320
and please give us one positive thing.

786
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: Uh Well, the Clippers talking rom Go tomorrow is being rescheduled.

787
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,199
If you guys were going tomorrow on account of me,

788
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,280
what the hell got I got gotta reschedule.

789
00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: They wouldn't give you the presidential suite or what.

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00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:28,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's back to the negotiating table now, unclad. I'll

791
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:33,960
give you guys an update down the line. Okay, we

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got media Day on Monday, and we're gonna get our

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00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,239
first conversations really with the media. And we heard from

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00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,559
CP three and we heard a little bit from Brook.

795
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,960
We didn't have a traditional introductory press conference for Bradley

796
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Beale or John Collins, so I'm looking forward to that.

797
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:54,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was like one photo of John Collins shared

798
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,400
the Clippers Superad. It was like, uh, there's been no

799
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:00,760
photos of John Collins. It was like, yeah, that's fine.

800
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,000
He's not a he's kind of Kawhi like in his

801
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:04,760
social media.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all good. He wants to float in the

803
00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:10,760
background until he's throwing down on two guys. It's fine

804
00:47:11,159 --> 00:47:15,159
until he's floating towards the room. So I'm excited to

805
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,599
hear from them their expectations. If I get a chance,

806
00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:25,559
I'll ask Kawhi question. But yeah, I'll probably come home

807
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:30,039
and after the first hour there and start podcasting on

808
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:32,320
Clippers Talk. Maybe he wants to jump on a live.

809
00:47:32,199 --> 00:47:35,639
Speaker 1: Then yeah, Alex, I'm saying, what time does media start

810
00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:38,360
so we can tune in? You cannot tune in the

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00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:44,119
Clippers media Day. That is not something that is possible,

812
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,400
So sorry, Alex Web just follow all the amazing beat

813
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,679
writers like Tamara Zarley who ghosted us tonight, as well

814
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:55,159
as Justin Russo, Adam Anslin, Love Murray. There's a whole

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00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:59,800
at Grant Mona, Joey Lynn. The Clippers beat is great.

816
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,559
I'll also give a shout out to everyone on the

817
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:09,159
actual Clippers beat. Yeah. I'm excited for media Day. I

818
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,320
will be watching from work or following from work, and

819
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,960
then we'll have a full episode out for y'all, probably Tuesday,

820
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,559
so we can kind of digest everything. Thanks having on

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the live stream Paul Thomas, we hope you have a

822
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,000
wonderful night. Don't watch any comedies, seems very difficult.

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Speaker 2: He only watches his own movies, which I hear the

824
00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:29,440
new one's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I'm going tomorrow at eleven am. So I'm so highed.

826
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Oh yeah, that was Paul Thomas Anderson. That's I forget.

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He's a big Clips fan. I saw him in a

828
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,800
weirdly in an Ola, Wa, Kandy, Jersey the other day.

829
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,840
I was just you know, at Arawan spending seven thousand

830
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,000
dollars on groceries. I said, is that pta a candy man?

831
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,719
All right? Thanks? Shogging out everybody, Adam will be with

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00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,599
you on Monday after an hour over on Clippers Talk.

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00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,280
If you went to Morano to see him, get a

834
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,360
refund you deserve it.

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Speaker 2: Let him know you came to see me. I got shook,

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I didn't show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for hanging out and as always, let's go

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