Speaker 1: Well, my first guest as I come back, so happy
Speaker 1: to be back, and my first guest is Eric Peters,
Speaker 1: somebody I really respect, who really gets it, who's been
Speaker 1: on the side of liberty and freedom for a very
Speaker 1: long time, and he's been on my side as well.
Speaker 1: Really to appreciate his offers of help when I was
Speaker 1: in the hospital. It's great to have you on, Eric,
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming.
Speaker 2: It's a privilesion and honor, and I'm so happy to
Speaker 2: see you back in a settle.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you, and thank you for your
Speaker 1: offers even to give blood. As I said yesterday, let's
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what is happening right now.
Speaker 1: I was looking at your diaper report and I was thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting here we are five years later
Speaker 1: and you started the diaper report making fun of the
Speaker 1: people who are wearing, you know, the diapers on their faces.
Speaker 1: And yet as you point out, that is still going on.
Speaker 1: You know what's happening. We've got Trump back. Oh wait
Speaker 1: a minute, he was the one who was there when
Speaker 1: they did the diaper stuff, right.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, I think because it never really got curate,
Speaker 2: did it.
Speaker 1: That's right now?
Speaker 2: The report focused on what's going on in Honduras. Apparently
Speaker 2: the Honduran health Minister has reinstated mandatory mask wearing in
Speaker 2: pretty much all public areas again. And I just thought
Speaker 2: to myself, oh my gosh, it's kind of early, but
Speaker 2: I need a drink. Here we go again. And then
Speaker 2: I thought, well, okay, maybe it's just Honduras, but you know,
Speaker 2: it really isn't. Every time I go somewhere, whether it's
Speaker 2: Low's or the supermarket or any place here in the
Speaker 2: United States, at least in my part of Virginia, it's
Speaker 2: ninety nine point nine percent certain that I'm going to
Speaker 2: see at least one person still wearing a mask. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: And that's an indication of just how effective they were
Speaker 2: in pathologizing in ptsding people. And I guess, you know,
Speaker 2: the underlying point that I wanted to make in that
Speaker 2: article is that all that's happened is that this psychosis
Speaker 2: has sort of waned a little bit. It hasn't gone away.
Speaker 2: It's certainly hasn't been cured, I don't think. And it
Speaker 2: hasn't been cured because it hasn't been forcefully repudiated. We
Speaker 2: haven't had any kind of official announcement by the authorities. Hey,
Speaker 2: we aired this was wrong and foolish and we shouldn't
Speaker 2: have done this.
Speaker 1: It'll never admit to that, will they.
Speaker 2: I'll never admit to that.
Speaker 1: We'll make two mistakes rather than never admit to one.
Speaker 1: You know, when I was in the hospital, they had
Speaker 1: to sign up saying you need to wear a mask.
Speaker 1: And what I looked at it, It's like if you've
Speaker 1: been around anybody exposed to measles, you know that's the
Speaker 1: new thing. Isn't it interesting how we were We had
Speaker 1: all this press hype about oh, we got an epidemic
Speaker 1: in Texas and blah blah blah. They misattributed to death
Speaker 1: there to measles, and and they're telling everybody it's the
Speaker 1: most contagious disease ever. Well, the peers have just died off,
Speaker 1: even according to their narrative, if you believe them, it
Speaker 1: just just disappeared to don't hear anything more about it.
Speaker 1: But they do have the signs up at a hospital
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. Because I had a couple of measle cases
Speaker 1: in Texas. I mean, that is absolutely nothing, but which
Speaker 1: he Yeah.
Speaker 2: We're still expected as a society to pretend that there's
Speaker 2: nothing abnormal about people walking around wearing these masks, you know,
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to be mean. I understand that
Speaker 2: the people who are wearing the masks genuinely probably believe
Speaker 2: that they are effective, you know, and they're great, and
Speaker 2: they think that if I do this, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to catch a sickness. So I don't intend to disparage
Speaker 2: those people. The point is they do still believe, and
Speaker 2: the point is we are expected to go along with
Speaker 2: that belief. And it's an adharant belief. You know, if
Speaker 2: you had somebody in your family, remember the old Bugs
Speaker 2: Money cartoon where the crazy guy thinks he's Napoleon, you know,
Speaker 2: and he addresses up like Napoleon and where's the hat
Speaker 2: and he demands to be called emperor. Now, if you
Speaker 2: had somebody in your family who started wearing Napoleonic outfits
Speaker 2: and demanding to be called the emperor, you know, you
Speaker 2: could be kind, you don't want to hurt their feelings,
Speaker 2: and you could address them as the Emperor. But you're
Speaker 2: not really helping them. You're not doing them any favors.
Speaker 2: All you're doing is enabling their mental illness.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it has a lot of parallels to
Speaker 1: a lot of things that are going on in a society. Right,
Speaker 1: everybody's got their own truth, and we don't have any
Speaker 1: objective standard of truth. It's just like what this person thinks,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's their felt experience and so forth.
Speaker 1: We see the same thing with pronouns and gender imagination, right, yes,
Speaker 1: and so it feeds into all of that stuff, and
Speaker 1: so we're supposed to play along. That's part of the
Speaker 1: way that I think that they have silence stuffs. Well,
Speaker 1: I can't criticize their mask fantasies anymore that I can
Speaker 1: criticize somebody's gender fantasies. We've got to get away from
Speaker 1: the objected realities here. And I've said for the longest time,
Speaker 1: even if you go through their science of virology, you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like watching a bad sci fi movie
Speaker 1: or a bad superhero movie. They create a universe, right,
Speaker 1: and you expect them then to abide by the rules
Speaker 1: of whatever that universe is or that particular character. And
Speaker 1: so if they start just you know, they create this
Speaker 1: fictional world, and if they don't abide by it, then
Speaker 1: you have to called bs on that. Yet, you know,
Speaker 1: they create this fictional world, which you know as I've
Speaker 1: looked at this. I've talked to doctor Sam Bailey and
Speaker 1: her husband, also a physician, both of them physicians in
Speaker 1: New Zealand, and they looked at research is done by
Speaker 1: Christine Massey going around asking all these public health officials
Speaker 1: have you is said the virus? And she talked over
Speaker 1: two hundred of them. Nobody did it. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, some of them starts saying, we never do that.
Speaker 1: It's like, wait a minute, if you don't do that,
Speaker 1: what are you doing from a scientific standpoint? And so
Speaker 1: what they pointed out was is that whether or not
Speaker 1: viruses even exist is in question, but certainly what is
Speaker 1: not in question is that it's none of this is
Speaker 1: scientifically proven. If you leak at the PCR test, none
Speaker 1: of it is consistent with their fictional world.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. And there's another aspect of this that I think
Speaker 2: bears discussing, which is that no one has been held accountable, Yeah,
Speaker 2: for the extraordinary psychological, social and economic damage that was
Speaker 2: over the course of that pandemic. And again, it's not
Speaker 2: about retribution, it's about justice, and it's about putting this
Speaker 2: behind us by holding to account the people who did
Speaker 2: this to us. Yeah, it's impetive that that be done.
Speaker 2: And if that isn't done, then they can get away
Speaker 2: with acting like you know, they were somehow kind of
Speaker 2: in the right. You know that it wasn't really wrong
Speaker 2: what they did. You know, you wouldn't in any other case,
Speaker 2: if somebody had committed a serial murder, you wouldn't just
Speaker 2: stop talking about it. You wouldn't let the serial murder
Speaker 2: go on about his business. That person has to be
Speaker 2: brought to trial, has to be held accountable.
Speaker 1: That's right, medical martial law unconstitutionally imposed. And we let
Speaker 1: that go, We forget it. We just move on. Now
Speaker 1: everything is great because Trump's back again, the guy who
Speaker 1: did it. And what is he doing. He's making up
Speaker 1: one emergency after the other to rule by executive order,
Speaker 1: and so there's a real issue with that. Of course,
Speaker 1: the very first thing that he did when he came
Speaker 1: back was to set up Stargate with his crony capitalists
Speaker 1: and billionaire friends to push mRNA combined with artificial intelligence.
Speaker 1: So now we're going to add AI into the mix
Speaker 1: of nonsense that is here. And you know, there's nothing
Speaker 1: from RFK Junior to stop this. They're not banning the RNA,
Speaker 1: They no longer recommend it for some groups of people,
Speaker 1: but they're not banning this thing. And every week we
Speaker 1: see more studies coming out talking about death and disability
Speaker 1: of people who took that jab, and yet they're not
Speaker 1: banning this. Under any other circumstances it ought to be banned,
Speaker 1: and of course RFK Junior is just letting this go.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, they also approved yet another
Speaker 1: m RNA in the meantime, and the Trump administration is
Speaker 1: really doubling down on DNA and m RNA research, just
Speaker 1: like they are with AI, as he did this first
Speaker 1: day in office.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that RFK is kind of the
Speaker 2: beard of the Trump administration. Yeah, they bring him forward.
Speaker 2: I think he seems to be a genuine person, not perfect.
Speaker 2: I disagree with him on a number of things, but
Speaker 2: I think he's well meant and I think that's why
Speaker 2: they brought him a board, because a lot of people
Speaker 2: do respect him and believe that he's legitimate on those issues.
Speaker 2: So it makes it more difficult to, you know, pin
Speaker 2: the tale on the appropriate donkey, which is Trump.
Speaker 1: Well, what he said, uh, And of course Tulcia Gabbard
Speaker 1: said as well, we're here to restore trust in the institutions.
Speaker 1: I'm here to destroy trust and institutions. That's my life
Speaker 1: mission is to destroy blind trust and government and there
Speaker 1: and constitutional institutions. But that's what they're trying to restore,
Speaker 1: and so that's why they use people like RFK Junior
Speaker 1: and Telsa Gabbard who have, as you point out, they
Speaker 1: have this certain public perception, whether or not it's deserved,
Speaker 1: they have that perception. They're trading off of it to
Speaker 1: try to restore confidence. Well, they kind of blew up
Speaker 1: in their face with Mangino and Cash, didn't it.
Speaker 2: If you pop that injury, which I'm sure you did.
Speaker 2: Ngino and Patel looked like somebody was holding a conditor.
Speaker 2: That's when they came up. You know, everything that has
Speaker 2: been happening over the course of the last four or
Speaker 2: five weeks makes me feel like I'm in a surface funhouse.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All of the populist, nationalist things that Trump ran on
Speaker 2: have just been cast by the wayside. I have some
Speaker 2: red hat friends and I asked them, would you have
Speaker 2: voted for Trump if if he had campaigned on imposing
Speaker 2: real ID, continuing the aid to Ukraine, and pushing an
Speaker 2: AI technocratic surveillance state, i'll a palenteer and instituting some
Speaker 2: form of digital currency via the so called Genius Act.
Speaker 1: And yet, if you're likal how he did his first term,
Speaker 1: none of that stuff is a stretch. It was kind
Speaker 1: of predictable that he's going to go in that direction.
Speaker 1: You know, he is basically, how do I put this politely,
Speaker 1: he is the servant, we'll say, of the deep state.
Speaker 1: And you can see this and everything to happen the
Speaker 1: first term. He's throwing everything against the wall, isn't he
Speaker 1: to try to distract from the Epstein thing? And you
Speaker 1: know some people even saying, oh, now we need to
Speaker 1: go investigate genas pots Like whence't you ask Trump why
Speaker 1: he made her his head of the CIA after she
Speaker 1: was the one who produced the lies and Trump said,
Speaker 1: we relied into the Iraq war. Well, she's the one
Speaker 1: who did it with the illegal torture and he put
Speaker 1: her in charge of the CIA. Incurse, she was right
Speaker 1: at the epicenter of London and Langley axis where they
Speaker 1: were doing this Russia Gate stuff. I'm so sick of rejigate.
Speaker 1: I got sick of that from the day beginning.
Speaker 2: There's one oh, Yeah, of course it's it's now Trump's
Speaker 2: look a squirrel, Obama. It's now not locked it's lock
Speaker 2: him up. They're going to do any such.
Speaker 1: Thing that's right.
Speaker 2: But you know, there is a sulp applying to this
Speaker 2: dark cloud of I think now, I hope, I'm I hope,
Speaker 2: I'm not think Pollyanna is here. But my sense of
Speaker 2: it is that that Trump's bizarre and corner brat behavior
Speaker 2: over the last several weeks on the Epstein stuff has
Speaker 2: kind of given us our peek behind the curtain, you know,
Speaker 2: and the Wizard of Oz when they finally pulled the
Speaker 2: curtain back. Yeah, and we see that it's not that
Speaker 2: the Democrats the Republicans, it's them. They're all like, the
Speaker 2: whole the thing is fundamentally unreformable. They'll run by a.
Speaker 3: Mafia, I agree, A disgusting, a disgusting cohort of people
Speaker 3: who are engaged in not just grift and draft, but
Speaker 3: some of the most sordid and reprehensible things you could
Speaker 3: possibly imagine.
Speaker 1: And I think that's part of what you're trying to
Speaker 1: do with Glaine Maxwell in terms of I think he
Speaker 1: wants to bring in Clinton and try to revive the partisanship,
Speaker 1: at least for his people. There. You and I going
Speaker 1: to look at this and say, yeah, they're all part
Speaker 1: of the same lub. You know, Clinton was partying with
Speaker 1: Trump and vice versa. They're going into the same Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein parties and you know, jeez at his wedding and
Speaker 1: so forth and so on. But you know, we'll look
Speaker 1: at that and say, yeah, so just one big eyes
Speaker 1: wide shut party. But he will look at and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Clinton's, we need to lock them up.
Speaker 2: That movie, for people who are not aware of it, it
Speaker 2: was Stanley Kubrick's last movie. Yeah, and I think that
Speaker 2: he deliberately wanted to give us a peek inside that world.
Speaker 2: Watch that movie if you haven't seen it, and you
Speaker 2: can kind of get a sense of what's going on here.
Speaker 2: And it helps to understand like Trump's disingenuous assertion that well,
Speaker 2: if they had anything on me in the last four years,
Speaker 2: they would have, well, they wouldn't have, because it's like
Speaker 2: it's mutually a sure destruction. Yeah, they're guilty and they
Speaker 2: know it. And so you know they know that if
Speaker 2: I say something about you, you're going to say something
Speaker 2: about me. And we both go down the flames. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so don't say anything.
Speaker 1: And we'll get more to that too, is my fact.
Speaker 1: You got an article about that and a little bit
Speaker 1: of a clip of eyes wide shut, you get people
Speaker 1: an idea of that. But before we do that, I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk a little bit about cars. You've got
Speaker 1: a funny article kick me about that and talking about
Speaker 1: I guess one of your favorite cars is you've also
Speaker 1: got to review the vw I D Buzz And I
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of an interesting name for a
Speaker 1: car and the age of surveillance, the vw I D.
Speaker 2: It could be the name of another the next Samsung
Speaker 2: generation phone. It's like all of they've succeeded in in
Speaker 2: turning things that used to have emotional appeal into these cold, distant,
Speaker 2: remote whole cares. Why wouldn't they come up like the
Speaker 2: old microbus that was a cool name microbus, you know,
Speaker 2: and affectionately known as the hippie. Then you know that
Speaker 2: it was just kind of it was cute and it
Speaker 2: was fun, and that thing is the antithesis of everything
Speaker 2: that the old microbus.
Speaker 1: Was, and that kind of might fit that kind of
Speaker 1: a name if you call it a microbus, because it
Speaker 1: is a device now that would kind of fit.
Speaker 2: To get back to what you were talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: I was so frustrated with the IV buzz. I was
Speaker 2: only able when they sent it to me. I was
Speaker 2: only able to drive it twice because they didn't include
Speaker 2: a charge cord. If you could believe that, really it's
Speaker 2: extra cost. So this is a vehicle that starts at
Speaker 2: sixty thousand dollars and if you want to have the
Speaker 2: home charge cord you have to pay. You have to
Speaker 2: be almost seven hundred dollars extra for it. So I
Speaker 2: wasn't included in the press car alone that they sent me,
Speaker 2: which is even more crazy because I'm a journalist.
Speaker 1: So that's like batteries not included, except they put the
Speaker 1: batteries in, but no way to charge the batteries.
Speaker 2: So that essentially forced me because what am I going
Speaker 2: to do? I can't charge it at home now, which
Speaker 2: is like the main thing they try to sell you
Speaker 2: the EV with. Well, you have the convenience of being
Speaker 2: able to charge it at home, but now I don't
Speaker 2: even I'm not even able to do that, so you're
Speaker 2: forced them to rely on this sketchy network of so
Speaker 2: called fast chargers. Well, I drove into town and I
Speaker 2: went to the first place in my area where there
Speaker 2: are fast chargers and it's completely offline. They're like doing
Speaker 2: some construction to it. So that didn't you know, that
Speaker 2: didn't work. So now I'm sweating and nervously iving how
Speaker 2: much rains have I got left, And I think, okay,
Speaker 2: I can probably make it to the other one that's
Speaker 2: on the other side of town. So I drive to
Speaker 2: that one, and that one's working, but it won't accept
Speaker 2: my credit card or any of them. I tried six
Speaker 2: different credit cards I had to get the app. In
Speaker 2: other words, they put access to my phone and access
Speaker 2: to my bank account basically my debit accounts in order
Speaker 2: to you know, charge me for the service, and I'm
Speaker 2: not willing to do that. I'm not willing to let
Speaker 2: this this this creepy third party entity that I don't know.
Speaker 2: These people, I don't want them having access to my phone.
Speaker 2: So long story short, I wasn't able to charge it,
Speaker 2: so I limped it home at low speed and it
Speaker 2: became a six thousand pounds not a joke, curb weight,
Speaker 2: six thousand pounds wow. Deadly For the next five days
Speaker 2: until they came to pick the thing up. I left
Speaker 2: just enough charging it so the poor guy, you know,
Speaker 2: the delivery guy, can pick it up and get it.
Speaker 2: You can deal with it. Then it's not my problem anymore.
Speaker 1: With all these electric vehicles weighing so much money, weighing
Speaker 1: so much in terms of wait, it's going to tear
Speaker 1: up the roads, and of course they're not going to
Speaker 1: replace them either. So it does a couple of things
Speaker 1: for the elites. They don't want us to own private cars,
Speaker 1: and they don't want to maintain the roads obviously, so
Speaker 1: now they've got these heavy evs to destroy the roads
Speaker 1: for him. At the same time, you had that same
Speaker 1: problem when you were test driving the Mercedes and you
Speaker 1: had an article about how they pulled your credentials with
Speaker 1: your press credentials with Mercedes after you gave them an
Speaker 1: honesty view of what was like to have range, panic
Speaker 1: and all the rest of stuff and not be able
Speaker 1: to get where you wanted to go with Mercedes in
Speaker 1: a very cold streak back in December of twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: I think it was yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very interesting because I've been doing what
Speaker 2: I've been doing for a very long time, and I
Speaker 2: had been getting regular press car deliveries from Mercedes for
Speaker 2: more than twenty five years, and they never had a
Speaker 2: problem before with anything with anything that I've written or
Speaker 2: anything at all like that. And I wasn't gratuitous. I
Speaker 2: didn't insert my personal dislike of evs, which I'm quite
Speaker 2: open about. I find them to be just lacking anything
Speaker 2: that makes a vehicle appealing. Now that's just my personal preference,
Speaker 2: and I don't bring that into the car reviews. What
Speaker 2: I did bring into the car review was that, you know,
Speaker 2: I attempted to use their Equs, which was one hundred
Speaker 2: and twelve thousand dollars electric luxury sedan, to visit my mom,
Speaker 2: who lives fifty miles away in Bedford, Virginia. Fifty miles. Now.
Speaker 2: It happened that it was in December of twenty three
Speaker 2: and it was very cold. If you remember that month,
Speaker 2: I remember that. Yeah, it was a bad cold snap.
Speaker 2: So by the time I got down to Roanoke, which
Speaker 2: is the closest city to where I live, I looked
Speaker 2: at the range and boy, the range wasn't so hot anymore,
Speaker 2: and I thought, you know, it might be smart. Dawn
Speaker 2: and I were looking at the temperature and it's about
Speaker 2: you know, thirteen degrees outside, and I'm thinking, I don't
Speaker 2: want to be caught, you know, on the side of
Speaker 2: the road with it being thirteen degrees outside, so maybe
Speaker 2: we should just stop and put some charge in the thing.
Speaker 2: So again, same problem. The first place wouldn't work at all.
Speaker 2: The second place, Dawn put the app on her phone
Speaker 2: and we were able to hook up the charger, but
Speaker 2: after sitting there for forty minutes, we barely got enough
Speaker 2: charge to make it home. Yeah, you know, and put
Speaker 2: the cash on it. By that time, I thought, I'm
Speaker 2: just not going to risk driving this thing a significant
Speaker 2: distance away from home and being stuck on the side
Speaker 2: of the road with it.
Speaker 1: It's deficult to charge them when the weather gets really
Speaker 1: cold like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's much harder because you know, and not only
Speaker 2: the battery in the car is trying to keep the
Speaker 2: battery warm because it's that cold outside, and that uses.
Speaker 2: Anybody who has a heat pump or tries to use
Speaker 2: like one of those you know, hot wire portable electric
Speaker 2: heaters knows they burn a lot of energy to try
Speaker 2: to keep you warm. So I just wrote about that,
Speaker 2: and I wrote specifically, you know, your clientele, the people
Speaker 2: you're trying to sell this car to This is one
Speaker 2: hundred and twelve thousand dollars car. These are affluent people.
Speaker 2: Affluent people pay to not have hassles. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: affluent people pay to be able to do the things
Speaker 2: that we can't do. And I thought, my god, I
Speaker 2: could get in my twenty four year old truck and
Speaker 2: easily drive to Bedford with the heat blasting. I'm not
Speaker 2: worried about it because it's not gonna, you know, leave
Speaker 2: me by the side of the road dead. And that's
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous, even even a virtue signaling a leftist who
Speaker 2: has one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars to spend isn't
Speaker 2: going to put up with that. I thought that that
Speaker 2: was a very fair and objective thing to say.
Speaker 1: And now you have been vindicated.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, that's the.
Speaker 1: Elite people don't want the hassles are buying that thing,
Speaker 1: and they're not buying it.
Speaker 2: So Mercedes pr gave me this stuff about how you know,
Speaker 2: I'm now out of their delivery area, which is nonsense.
Speaker 2: I know that that's I mean, I happen to have
Speaker 2: people who do what I do that I know who
Speaker 2: are still getting the cars you know, who are as
Speaker 2: far or farther than I am. So that's just not true. Well, anyway,
Speaker 2: fast forward to now and they've had to announce a
Speaker 2: they call it a pause, a pause in the you know,
Speaker 2: the continued manufacture of the EQS and the EQUE because
Speaker 2: they can't sell them in this country. It's been a
Speaker 2: catastrophe for them. They've had the cut bait and cut
Speaker 2: prices massively. They're marked down to try to desperately get
Speaker 2: rid of these things because you know, we're getting to
Speaker 2: the middle of twenty twenty five. We're at the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six model year now, so you know, the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty fives are already becoming kind of like old fish
Speaker 2: that you want to get rid of, you know, and
Speaker 2: people aren't buying them, and partners not buying. This is
Speaker 2: also this is another aspect of this issue. The depreciation
Speaker 2: rates on these things is absolutely catastrophic. You can find
Speaker 2: a year old EQS that's sold for one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: dollars more or more what it was new for thirty
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars. Now. Rich people tend to be a
Speaker 2: lot of things, but they tend not to be stupid people,
Speaker 2: you know, and nobody wants to take a seventy thousand
Speaker 2: dollars bath on depreciation in the course of you know,
Speaker 2: a year or two. It's just it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: That is amazing. Yeah, you know, I look at this
Speaker 1: vw ID buzz. Like I said, you know, it's interesting
Speaker 1: to call one of these devices an ID because they
Speaker 1: are going to be iding you everywhere you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I guess the other alternative is called a bug
Speaker 1: or something. I mean that would also kind of harken
Speaker 1: into the Internet of Things and tracking you everywhere you go.
Speaker 2: But you know, originally it was the Beatle, or wasn't
Speaker 2: it the Type one? Technically a Type one was the designation,
Speaker 2: and then affectionately it became known as the Beatle, which
Speaker 2: I think is from the German which I think is Kafer.
Speaker 2: I think kifi r, which was a Hitler came up
Speaker 2: with because he actually sketched the shape of it. You know,
Speaker 2: there are sketches of Hitler's original concept of the Beetle
Speaker 2: that he walked on with Ferdinand Portraits create the car. Now,
Speaker 2: all that aside, the original Beatle was a great car.
Speaker 2: It literally was the car for the people It was
Speaker 2: very basic. It was very simple, it was very light,
Speaker 2: it was efficient, and it was something that anybody could
Speaker 2: learn to fix. You could do your own maintenance on
Speaker 2: the thing and save a lot of money that way.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, something that has been totally tossed out and
Speaker 2: kicked to the curb. Now this idea that you know,
Speaker 2: you own this extremely expensive gadget and when the gadget glitches,
Speaker 2: what do you do? Well, you either take it or
Speaker 2: have it flatbed toad to a dealer where you pay
Speaker 2: an exorbitant sum of money to have some specialists try
Speaker 2: to fix it for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember, even though it was very inexpensive car,
Speaker 1: it had a reputation for a liability. I remember a
Speaker 1: Woody Allen movie, I don't even remember which movie it was.
Speaker 1: But he goes he goes to sleep or something like that,
Speaker 1: maybe sleep or something, and uh, you know, he wakes up, yeah,
Speaker 1: hundreds of years in the future, and he sees he's
Speaker 1: on the run or something, and he sees a Volkswagen
Speaker 1: in a cave and he thinks, wait, no, it couldn't possibly,
Speaker 1: but he he opens the door and he and he
Speaker 1: gives it a push and it starts and it's like,
Speaker 1: oh how about that, you know, So it had this
Speaker 1: reputation for being reliable. I remember we had a VW
Speaker 1: dealer close to where we lived, and it was called
Speaker 1: bird Song Motors, kind of as a reference to the
Speaker 1: noise that it made. You know, it kind of sounded
Speaker 1: like the jets and cars running. I had this little
Speaker 1: tweeting sound that it made with the engine, the air
Speaker 1: cooled engine in the back. There were funny cars.
Speaker 2: Great things. They were well, they were also kind of
Speaker 2: the first step on that ladder. I could speak from
Speaker 2: personal experiences and they also I had a Volk Slagon
Speaker 2: when I was young. You know. It was a great
Speaker 2: car for a teenager because again it was like a
Speaker 2: step up from a Brigs and Stratton pushmower literally, I
Speaker 2: mean an air cooled engine. They had a little one
Speaker 2: barrel collaborator on it and a fan, I mean, and
Speaker 2: you popped the back of it and there it was.
Speaker 2: It was so simple, you know, it wasn't intimidating. So
Speaker 2: if you're a fifteen or sixteen year old kid, you know,
Speaker 2: you can look at that and I think I could
Speaker 2: maybe figure out how to take those spark plugs out,
Speaker 2: you know, I can learn how to change I mean
Speaker 2: there was a there was just a bolt on the
Speaker 2: bottom of the engine. I mean you didn't even have
Speaker 2: to jack the car up. You could just under the
Speaker 2: bolt and wow, look I just changed you up. And
Speaker 2: it sounds trivial, but when you're fifteen sixteen years old,
Speaker 2: it's kind of intimidating. You know. You're you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: do I want to touch that? Do I want to
Speaker 2: mess with that? I don't want to break that?
Speaker 1: Well, the cars are intimidating, they aren't they to work on? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, I had an interesting kind of lesson now here.
Speaker 2: I am a middle aged guy and I'm afraid of computers.
Speaker 2: So you know, this is how I can sort of
Speaker 2: understand what's happened. I had a problem with my laptop.
Speaker 2: The battery basically wouldn't accept the charge anymore. And I thought, gosh,
Speaker 2: do I dare? Do I dare to try to open
Speaker 2: this thing up and maybe see about replacing the battery myself.
Speaker 2: And I gathered up my courage and I did it.
Speaker 2: I bought I bought a battery online for thirty five dollars,
Speaker 2: and you know, I very timorously. I removed the screws
Speaker 2: and I took the cover off and it wasn't so bad,
Speaker 2: and I felt so good. It made me feel like
Speaker 2: I did when I was a kid. Wow, I've learned
Speaker 2: how to do something today. I did it, and it's
Speaker 2: so empowering, as opposed to if I had gone to
Speaker 2: the computer store, which I've done in the past. You know,
Speaker 2: when I've had a battery issue. Three hundred dollars later,
Speaker 2: you know, there's your you know, there's your thing, and
Speaker 2: you have no idea what they did works great, But
Speaker 2: now you're out ten hundred dollars and you feel kind
Speaker 2: of emasculated because you had to go to get somebody
Speaker 2: else to fix it for you. And I think we've
Speaker 2: lost that. You know, it used to be so common
Speaker 2: for dads and their sons to work on the car,
Speaker 2: you know, in the driveway on Saturdays or Sundays. And
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about major gearhead overhauls of the entire engine.
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about doing basic things like a tune up,
Speaker 2: you know, doing break work stuff like that. And it
Speaker 2: was a good experience the father and the son or
Speaker 2: the daughter rankly, and it helped to empower that young person.
Speaker 2: That young person felt competent and that's extremely important to
Speaker 2: think growing up, you know, to feel like, hey, I
Speaker 2: can do the things. My hands are capable, my brain
Speaker 2: is capable. I can understand this, I know how to
Speaker 2: do this.
Speaker 1: And now they can change the blanker fluid.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, now that they're incompleating helplessness. There's this commercial
Speaker 2: that makes me want. It makes me feel I remember
Speaker 2: the story about how Elvis would shoot the TV when
Speaker 2: Robert Bulay came on. I saw this commercial. I think
Speaker 2: it was for Evolvo. It might have been a super group.
Speaker 2: And it's a couple of teenagers and they're out in
Speaker 2: the car and they have a flat tire and what
Speaker 2: do they do. They call mom, who calls Triple A
Speaker 2: or some roadside assistance thing. Everybody's all I grateful. My god,
Speaker 2: it's embarrassing being sixteen years old as a boy and
Speaker 2: you didn't know how to change a tire. Your friends
Speaker 2: would have laughed you into the next county.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well you know now you don't have to write.
Speaker 1: You can just use AI to do your website there
Speaker 1: for you. Right, that is the ultimate emasculation and lobotomization. Actually,
Speaker 1: I think it's how many But tell us little bit
Speaker 1: about this kicked me on. Iought it was a funny idea.
Speaker 1: You talked about Jeremy Clarkson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never met Jeremy. I'd love to. I have
Speaker 2: always enjoyed top Gear and his Shenanigans. You know, I
Speaker 2: think he's got the right kind of tally ho pirate spirit.
Speaker 2: You know, he's a guy who just he has a
Speaker 2: knack for telling the truth in an interesting way, you know,
Speaker 2: a funny way sometimes. Anyway, we were watching his most
Speaker 2: recent thing is It's called Clarkson's Farm, and it just
Speaker 2: reminded me, you know, I should do things like Jeremy
Speaker 2: does now have the backing that he has, I don't
Speaker 2: have the resources that he has, but I thought it
Speaker 2: would be just hilarious if I could figure out a
Speaker 2: way to acquire to buy one of those id buzz
Speaker 2: electric vans, and so it's mine now and I can
Speaker 2: do what I want with it like Jeremy does on
Speaker 2: top hear yea. And I could put a knee sign
Speaker 2: on it and take it to a shopping mall somewhere
Speaker 2: and people could just kick it. You know, we could
Speaker 2: film it. Yeah, I think it would proude a great
Speaker 2: kind of cathartic moment. I think so many people are
Speaker 2: so frustrated and angered by everything that's being foisted on
Speaker 2: us and pushed on us, and particularly these electric cars.
Speaker 1: You think it could stand the kind of abuse that
Speaker 1: the Toyota high light Scott from Top Gear guys.
Speaker 2: No, actually, I think they would without even using implements,
Speaker 2: without necessarily getting involved with pro bars and hammers and things.
Speaker 2: I think he completely total in id buzz. You know,
Speaker 2: we're within about probably half an hour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. Well, was there anything that you liked about
Speaker 1: it that you thought was clever that they laid out
Speaker 1: with it or I liked?
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I liked that it looks immediately distinctive from
Speaker 2: everything else on the road, kind of like cars. To
Speaker 2: one of the attractions of the old volkswagons was you
Speaker 2: didn't even have to see it. You heard it. You know,
Speaker 2: you knew it their care comes a beetle or here
Speaker 2: comes a bus because it had that distinctive sound.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I like the way that they styled it. I
Speaker 2: think it is a The idea is great. It's it's
Speaker 2: it's a perennial favorite. The idea of the old micro
Speaker 2: bus was brilliant, you know what a fantastic practical vehicle. Now,
Speaker 2: if only they could have taken that vehicle that they
Speaker 2: created and instead of using a battery powered drive frame,
Speaker 2: imagine if they had put one of their TDI disels
Speaker 2: in that thing. Yeah, you know right, then you'd have
Speaker 2: a micro bus that would be able to go probably
Speaker 2: six hundred miles on Philip. Yeah, and also would only
Speaker 2: probably cost about thirty five to forty thousand dollars as
Speaker 2: opposed to sixty thousand dollars. That would be great. It'd
Speaker 2: sell a lot of those Oh, you'd actually make money.
Speaker 2: Imagine that, you know, instead of you try to try
Speaker 2: to sell virtue, they'd make money.
Speaker 1: Well, the only thing better than putting one of those
Speaker 1: things a shopping man putting a kick me silent, it
Speaker 1: would be to do that to class Schwab who actually
Speaker 1: he had a big kick me signed put on him
Speaker 1: there at the World Economic Forum, I think, or as
Speaker 1: I like to refer to them.
Speaker 2: A plows you know, you can pack like some gigantic pinata. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and people take a turn of giving him a whack.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bug.
Speaker 2: Isn't it sad? You know? It really breaks my heart
Speaker 2: to think that Volkswagen as a company caved into that
Speaker 2: that nonsense about the the cheating on the federal emission certification. Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it's diesel engines that they were that they used
Speaker 2: to sell were brilliant. I had the opportunity to drive
Speaker 2: every vehicle that they make equipped with the diesel engine,
Speaker 2: and every single one of them outperformed the advertised mileage.
Speaker 2: They were phenomenal. Some of them would go seven hundred
Speaker 2: miles on a full tank of fuel. I remember driving
Speaker 2: to North Carolina and back and still having a substantial
Speaker 2: amount of fuel in the tank of the thing. And
Speaker 2: you could pick one up. This is as recently as
Speaker 2: I think twenty fifteen, you could pick up a ten
Speaker 2: guy power Jetta for about twenty two thousand dollars. So
Speaker 2: naturally that's why they had to go. Can you imagine
Speaker 2: the position. On the one hand, you've got a twenty
Speaker 2: two thousand dollars Jetta that gets fifty plus miles per gallon,
Speaker 2: that goes seven hundred miles on a tank full of fuel,
Speaker 2: and it will probably last you for twenty five years
Speaker 2: because it's such a durable car. And on the other
Speaker 2: you've got a fifty thousand dollars electric car that goes
Speaker 2: maybe two hundred and forty miles. That forces you to
Speaker 2: plan your life around these constant charge discharge cycles, and
Speaker 2: that in all likelihood is going to require a new
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars battery by the time it's about ten
Speaker 2: years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it clicks all the boxes of what the
Speaker 1: elites want for us, which is nothing, to own nothing,
Speaker 1: and to go nowhere. And that's the thing that I
Speaker 1: concern us about all this stuff. You know, when you
Speaker 1: mentioned the Epstein thing and the other things, and you say, well,
Speaker 1: everybody's looking at Epstein, they're missing the stuff about Palanteer
Speaker 1: and the Genius Act and all the rest of this stuff,
Speaker 1: and those things are not unrelated.
Speaker 2: No they're not. Now, I'll preface my remarks by saying
Speaker 2: that obviously the allegations and the facts that we're aware
Speaker 2: of with regard to Epstein or just repellent beyond description.
Speaker 2: And I think that that stuff definitely should be exposed.
Speaker 2: I don't think we probably ever will get to the
Speaker 2: bottom of it, at least not with any of their help.
Speaker 2: They don't want this stuff out. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: it has served to distract attention away from things that
Speaker 2: are extraordinarily important for people to be aware of. Palentiner
Speaker 2: is one. And you know, by the way, I didn't
Speaker 2: know what palenteer was. I wander what does that mean?
Speaker 2: What does that word mean? I'm not a big Lord
Speaker 2: of the Rings guy. I never read Tolkien's books on it.
Speaker 2: But it turns out that in the universe of Lord
Speaker 2: of the Rings, the Palaenteer is a sorcerer's stone, and
Speaker 2: the sorcerer uses it to see what people are are doing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's and that's what palenteer is about. It's about it.
Speaker 1: I did reports on about a decade ago, and I
Speaker 1: said at the time, I said, no, the palaeer will
Speaker 1: allow the sorcerer to actually see into you, right, which
Speaker 1: is really what polunteer data mining is allowing them to
Speaker 1: do as well. They're able to look at externals like
Speaker 1: metadata and other stuff like that and to anticipate what
Speaker 1: you're going to do, to make connections between you and
Speaker 1: other people and ideologies and religion and politics and all
Speaker 1: these other things that they want to track and control.
Speaker 1: It is really insidious what is there. And of course
Speaker 1: they're not the only one. You've got Andreil, which is
Speaker 1: the sword right from Lord of the Rings that belong
Speaker 1: to the King. And there's a company called Andreil that's
Speaker 1: working with Trump and they want to use that for
Speaker 1: creating a no man's land at the border, basically having
Speaker 1: real high tech surveillance and law enforcement that is automated.
Speaker 1: And they're working with them Handing Glove And he's another
Speaker 1: one of these guys from the PayPal mafia, Palmer Lucky,
Speaker 1: I think, is I get to confused always talk about
Speaker 1: Howard Lutnik. I call him Lucky Lutnick because he didn't
Speaker 1: show up on nine to eleven. He did not to
Speaker 1: go and so he got real lucky, but not so
Speaker 1: much as employees, even though his brother who was there.
Speaker 2: But it's related to this that's important. It's not just Palenteer.
Speaker 2: There are two arms of the pincer, and the other
Speaker 2: one is this Genius Act, which essentially is the the
Speaker 2: propagation of some form of digital currency, non real money,
Speaker 2: digital money.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Now, what they're going to end up doing, in my
Speaker 2: view is, on the one hand, they're going to use
Speaker 2: the Palenteer to draw all these profiles of you and
Speaker 2: be aware of everything that you do, and then if
Speaker 2: you do things they don't like or don't want you
Speaker 2: to do. They'll be able to use this digitized money
Speaker 2: to limit your ability to buy things. Oh, you want
Speaker 2: to buy some hamburgur, Well, you've exceeded your your you know,
Speaker 2: your carbon footprint this month, so this month, so you
Speaker 2: know your coin. And it's interesting that they use the
Speaker 2: psychology of it is fascinating. They talk about coin, but
Speaker 2: there's no physical anything. It's a coin and name only.
Speaker 2: Your wallet is your phone. It's not your wallet. You know,
Speaker 2: you don't have physical money anymore. So they control the money,
Speaker 2: which means they control you.
Speaker 1: Well, they call them crypto coins and you think, oh,
Speaker 1: it's script I. You know it's got crypto, it's got
Speaker 1: encryption in it, and so they can't tell it. No,
Speaker 1: it's completely visible what's going on. The encryption is there
Speaker 1: for the processing, not to protect your privacy. And it's
Speaker 1: a blockchain, a public ledger that's available and visible to
Speaker 1: anyone and everyone, especially the government that's there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an absolute nightmare. You know, at least during
Speaker 2: the pandemic, when they attempted to throttle people's ability to
Speaker 2: engage in commerce, to buy and to sell. You know,
Speaker 2: if you had cash and you know, for example, I
Speaker 2: was friends with a local guy who operates a convenience store,
Speaker 2: you know, the gas station comedience store. Because we're friends.
Speaker 2: He knows me, I know him. You know, he didn't
Speaker 2: hassle me about the masks or anything. And I could
Speaker 2: go in there and I could buy things with cash
Speaker 2: and nobody knew of its except for him and I.
Speaker 2: You know, now in this regime they want to create
Speaker 2: not only will they know whether I'm wanting to buy something,
Speaker 2: they'll know how I'm trying to pay for it. And
Speaker 2: if the two things aren't aligned, and if their algorithm says,
Speaker 2: oh no, Eric's been a bad boy, you know, he's
Speaker 2: he shouldn't be allowed to buy anything. What are you
Speaker 2: going to do now? You can't transact business. That's what
Speaker 2: they want. They want absolute total control. And they exert
Speaker 2: this control using the data mining and using our ability
Speaker 2: to transact commerce.
Speaker 1: Well, and you know that's coming at us in a
Speaker 1: lot of different ways. I look at the stable coin,
Speaker 1: and you know, they want they want to tie it
Speaker 1: to the dollar, which is a joke because the dollar
Speaker 1: is not stable, so it's not a coin, and it's
Speaker 1: going to be tied to Fiat currency which is not
Speaker 1: stable and the crypto is not there to protect your
Speaker 1: privacy and letting them know anything about that, all of
Speaker 1: it is a lie. But they're looking at the stable
Speaker 1: coin as a way to protect the dollar and to
Speaker 1: transition into the next uh monetary system. You know, we've
Speaker 1: had Breton one, Breton Breton Wood's two, Bretton Woods one
Speaker 1: and two, and so now they've got to transition to
Speaker 1: something else because they can only run these scams for
Speaker 1: a few decades until everybody catches on. And people have
Speaker 1: caught onto this thing, so they got to come up
Speaker 1: with something new and fresh and new con and that's
Speaker 1: a big part of that. But I experienced this personally
Speaker 1: back in May of twenty twenty one. My program here
Speaker 1: independently was only five months old when PayPal banned me
Speaker 1: and I still can't use PayPal, so they banned me,
Speaker 1: and Venmo, which is owned by them, banned me at
Speaker 1: the same time. I spent hours with him on the
Speaker 1: phone and the guy was very helpful, but he finally
Speaker 1: came back and he said, I can only find one
Speaker 1: thing that says delete this account immediately. There was no violation,
Speaker 1: no alleged violation of anything, and no reason given for
Speaker 1: taking me off as a matter of fact. But that's
Speaker 1: what they want to do. They want to use it
Speaker 1: to control content. And we've got something very similar we
Speaker 1: talked about here on the show last couple of days.
Speaker 1: There's some Australian group of feminists called Collective Shout. You
Speaker 1: should look this up, Eric, it's uh. I think better
Speaker 1: name for them would be the Collective Karen's these, I'll
Speaker 1: look it up after that, Collective Shout. And so they're
Speaker 1: out there trying to use the you know, banking bands
Speaker 1: or you know, like Operation choke Point. They're trying to
Speaker 1: use that against anybody that they don't like. And they
Speaker 1: have focused on some video games that they say are
Speaker 1: not safe for work. Some of them are, but some
Speaker 1: of them are not. But what they're doing is they're
Speaker 1: studying a very dangerous precedent. But this is something that
Speaker 1: the governments are very eager to do for them. And uh,
Speaker 1: and so are the corporations. You know, they fine, fine,
Speaker 1: we'll just shut everything down. So that's what's coming, you know,
Speaker 1: banning anything that anybody doesn't like and doing it right
Speaker 1: away and just completely shutting you off, whether it's for
Speaker 1: your carbon footprint, or because your politics or your religion,
Speaker 1: or because you oppose the pandemic or the vaccine, it's
Speaker 1: just going to take you off for that stuff.
Speaker 2: Ultimately, they want uniformity because they want predictability. Yes, you know,
Speaker 2: they don't want anything unexpected to crop up. They want
Speaker 2: to have the ability to know ahead of time what
Speaker 2: the reaction is going to be, how people are going
Speaker 2: to move forward, and all of this stuff. And it's
Speaker 2: the most anti human thing I can imagine.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
Speaker 2: It is the end of creativity. It is the end
Speaker 2: of personal judgment initiative. You know. It is literally the
Speaker 2: NPC world where just the gray man, all of us
Speaker 2: are just the same sort of representation human stick figures,
Speaker 2: you know, marching bleakly in line. And it's incredibly depressing
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jill, especially on TEL, I've been looking at this
Speaker 1: for a long time, and you know, they've had a
Speaker 1: thing that they called AI. Before we talked about artificial intelligence,
Speaker 1: they talked about anticipatory intelligence, which was to predict what
Speaker 1: you're going to do before you did it. And of
Speaker 1: course the big new Verzenski was talking about that back
Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies when he wrote between two ages,
Speaker 1: and he said, in the technocratic age, we're going to
Speaker 1: know what you're going to do before you know what
Speaker 1: you're going to do. And that really is their goal,
Speaker 1: to know, to surveil, and to control everything that we do,
Speaker 1: to live in a panopticon in state. Now, people got
Speaker 1: the message about cddc's so now Trump is here to
Speaker 1: gain their trust and to put it in a different
Speaker 1: form of CBDC. That's the stable coin. I even call
Speaker 1: it CBDC in terms of crony billionaire digital cash as
Speaker 1: opposed to central bank digital cash. Right, it's just another cbd.
Speaker 2: All he has to do is give it one of
Speaker 2: his narcissistic appellations about how big and beautiful it is.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: You know, people will fall in line for that. I
Speaker 2: have cotton to the point I hope I'm not falling
Speaker 2: down on a rabbit hole of madness. But I begin
Speaker 2: to believe that this whole thing is just a gigantic
Speaker 2: form of political wrestling that they you know, they put
Speaker 2: Biden in there deliberately to create chaos and demoralization. Yeah,
Speaker 2: to flood the country with random foreign people, and to
Speaker 2: just rub it in Americans faces that you know, if
Speaker 2: they if they make an illegal U turn, they're going
Speaker 2: to get process to the fullest extent of the law.
Speaker 2: But you know, people can just scamp across the border
Speaker 2: and do whatever they want. They can drive about insurance
Speaker 2: that you and I will get nailed to the wall
Speaker 2: for if we do anyway. They let that go on
Speaker 2: for a number of years, along with the whole training
Speaker 2: thing and all the other things that happened, and incomes
Speaker 2: Trump on his white steed. Trump is the populist nationalist savior.
Speaker 2: He's going to correct everything. And sure, I mean it
Speaker 2: was attractive. You know, people were desperate to hear that
Speaker 2: maybe we can fix this, maybe you know, we can,
Speaker 2: we can do something about it. So yeah, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: going to vote for the Orange Man, vote for Trump.
Speaker 2: Yay America, right, you know, and then he gets in
Speaker 2: here and crashes everything. And what ends up happening when
Speaker 2: he crashes everything, he will have completely demoralized and discredited
Speaker 2: the populist nationals movement such that anybody who even tries
Speaker 2: to say, well, maybe free enterprise and you know all
Speaker 2: of that are a good idea, It's going to be
Speaker 2: like Herbert Hoover. Yeah, for the Great depression, and then
Speaker 2: you know, they got Franklin Roosevelt. We'll probably end up
Speaker 2: with Pete budajeg or Ao.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know where has Trump spent so much
Speaker 1: time in professional wrestling? I mean, he's even got Lenna
Speaker 1: McMahon running the Department of Ventation. It really is crazy,
Speaker 1: but he knows how that works. And that's one of
Speaker 1: the key ways that he controls a narrative is by
Speaker 1: making these heroes and heels stuff. You know, this all
Speaker 1: this stuff about Canada the fifty first state, that's as
Speaker 1: phony as Hull Cogan on the ring, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: all of that was just to create these different issues
Speaker 1: out of nothing. We also had something else it was
Speaker 1: also kind of interesting, also involving a bunch of women,
Speaker 1: and that was the tea at app. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw that or not, but it was actually
Speaker 1: the number one free app on download on Apple before
Speaker 1: this stuff all blew up. And what happened was this
Speaker 1: is another one of these deals where we've got to
Speaker 1: have your ID before you can get onto the internet.
Speaker 1: And we've got to be very careful because Republicans are
Speaker 1: pushing that extremely hard. You know, well, we don't want
Speaker 1: kids to be harmed by anything. So we're going to
Speaker 1: have to require ID in order to use the internet,
Speaker 1: you know, to use these porn sites or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Never mind the fact that they're going to be able
Speaker 1: to easily get around these restrictions, they're always coming up
Speaker 1: with reasons that we've got to have an ID. We've
Speaker 1: got to have ID because otherwise we'll have illegal aliens
Speaker 1: who are going to be taking your jobs. So we've
Speaker 1: got to have mandatory everify and an ID for that,
Speaker 1: or we got to have ID. And I agree we
Speaker 1: should have ID for voting. That's the one thing I
Speaker 1: would agree with because it is voluntary, you know, and
Speaker 1: if you don't want to vote and get involved in
Speaker 1: the professional wrestling match, I don't have to give them
Speaker 1: my ID. But for all the rest of these things,
Speaker 1: they're always looking for an excuse to push ID on us. Well,
Speaker 1: this app, the t app was a place where women
Speaker 1: could go in and gossip about men that they had dated,
Speaker 1: and it became extremely popular. But they required that you
Speaker 1: give them a picture ID to show that you're a
Speaker 1: woman and so forth, and they just put all of
Speaker 1: this personal information. Give us a shot of your driver's
Speaker 1: license and all the rest of stuff. They put it
Speaker 1: on a page a URL that was completely no password,
Speaker 1: no encryption, nothing. If you had that ur L you
Speaker 1: could see it all. And guess what, somebody got it
Speaker 1: and showed it to everybody. And one of the things
Speaker 1: that we can see that was really funny was a
Speaker 1: guy just wearing a wig that's his ID, and then
Speaker 1: led him in because he, I guess identified as a woman.
Speaker 1: But one of the worst case examples of how all
Speaker 1: the stuff that is supposed to protect us and keep
Speaker 1: us safe and secure actually endangers us in our identity,
Speaker 1: you know, And so all this kind of.
Speaker 2: Stuff, that ID thing is stuck in my cross for
Speaker 2: a very long time. Yeah, you know, I understand that,
Speaker 2: you know, just as a moral matter, not a legal matter.
Speaker 2: You know, if I were a storekeeper, I probably would
Speaker 2: not be comfortable selling beer or booze to a fourteen
Speaker 2: or fifteen year old kid. You know, that's just considered
Speaker 2: that to me not appropriate. That's something that I wouldn't
Speaker 2: personally do. But there's something upfronterists about demanding that a
Speaker 2: guy our age for him. I mean, anybody's I mean,
Speaker 2: there's no possible way that we could be you know,
Speaker 2: underage that we could be anywhere near eighteen, nineteen, twenty
Speaker 2: years old. It's ridiculous. Once upon a time, this is
Speaker 2: a few years back. I was attending a press event
Speaker 2: in southern California and I was at Lax Airport, you know,
Speaker 2: waiting in the terminal for my flight to board, and
Speaker 2: I went up to the there was a bar there.
Speaker 2: I just wanted a cup of coffee because it was
Speaker 2: too early to have a drink, and I just sat
Speaker 2: there having a cup of coffee, and this guy who
Speaker 2: clearly was in his seventies, you know, had a white beard,
Speaker 2: older guy. He sits down and asks for a drink,
Speaker 2: and the guy who was manning the bar, who looked
Speaker 2: like he was maybe twenty four or twenty five, you know,
Speaker 2: demanded ID give this guy. And the guy, to his credit, said,
Speaker 2: you know, I was in Vietnam when you know, you
Speaker 2: were still in your diapers. And then he expleted, deleted,
Speaker 2: and just walked away. And again I think it's this
Speaker 2: constant pecking at us, treating us like stupid children, you know,
Speaker 2: the contempt that the system shows for us. And also
Speaker 2: if you flip it around too, these poor people at
Speaker 2: the cashier for example, at a store. You know, they
Speaker 2: probably know perfectly well that you're old enough to buy
Speaker 2: a bottle of wine with your groceries. Because of store policy,
Speaker 2: they have to participate in this degrading kobuki, you know,
Speaker 2: of asking you to present your ID. We can't even
Speaker 2: buy cough syrup anymore, you know, without completing here's my ID.
Speaker 2: Look at I'm old enough, I'm not a meth head,
Speaker 2: I'm not a drug addict. I just freaking want some
Speaker 2: cough syrup. But now you have to be treated as
Speaker 2: if you were a meth head, drug addict, whatever, just
Speaker 2: to buy a box of cough syrup.
Speaker 1: That's right, well, Lance tells me. He says the UK's
Speaker 1: Online Safety Act considers all criticism of illegal immigration to
Speaker 1: be eighteen plus content and requires that you register your
Speaker 1: face and a government ID in order to be able
Speaker 1: to see any content related to it. So if you're
Speaker 1: going to criticize their policy taking society down, then you
Speaker 1: know they want to completely id you and get you
Speaker 1: into their files. It's pretty amazing. But that's where this
Speaker 1: stuff is all headed. And as you point out, this
Speaker 1: is the government corporate thing that replaced the somewhat limited
Speaker 1: government that briefly existed until about April of eighteen sixty five.
Speaker 1: You have a statement about Lincoln. He said Lincoln was
Speaker 1: no more free than the country that he enslaved by
Speaker 1: the way owned by the railroads, and by a kind
Speaker 1: of precursor to pellanteer, the Pinkerton thing. It's all very depressing,
Speaker 1: but no less true for being depressing. You know. I
Speaker 1: remember years ago I read an alternative history by Harry Turtledove.
Speaker 1: It was called So If You Remain, and in it
Speaker 1: he changes history slightly so that there's an early end
Speaker 1: to the war and the South is able to go
Speaker 1: its separate way. And as a result of that, in
Speaker 1: his novel, Abraham Lincoln is complete, is despised by everyone
Speaker 1: and ostracized, but he makes it comeback a few decades
Speaker 1: later when this book picks up and he comes back,
Speaker 1: guess what, as the Socialist Party candidate, which I thought
Speaker 1: was really accurate. I think that's exactly where he would
Speaker 1: have been. So he's a socialist to boot as well
Speaker 1: as a crony capitalist and under control of the corporations.
Speaker 1: And that's what we're seeing today, isn't it.
Speaker 2: You know? Tom Dolrensh's heart in a number of books
Speaker 2: about the subject. Yes points out that Lincoln was was
Speaker 2: until after the war, after his assassination, when what he
Speaker 2: calls the Lincoln cult was corected. Lincoln was widely loathed
Speaker 2: in the North as well as the South. Yes, there
Speaker 2: were massive audiots in New York City over the dragon
Speaker 2: of people to be pushed into this war in what
Speaker 2: was then another country. You know, understandab these these fresh
Speaker 2: off the boat Irish immigrants were why, I don't want
Speaker 2: to be dragged all down south of the Mason Dixon
Speaker 2: line to get killed. I haven't got a dog in
Speaker 2: this fight, you know. And the whole Americans are so
Speaker 2: propagandized about that. I mean, ultimately, the South just wanted
Speaker 2: to do exactly what the American colonies we wanted to do. Yes,
Speaker 2: they want to leave. They wanted to no longer be
Speaker 2: under the control of the central authority, like the most
Speaker 2: foundational fundamental principle that Jefferson was writing about and that
Speaker 2: Tom Paine wrote about, you know, self determination. We want government.
Speaker 2: And then Lincoln had the insolence to talk about government
Speaker 2: of the people by the people who except the people
Speaker 2: of the South.
Speaker 1: Yeahs impose it upon them. Yeah. Well they were able to,
Speaker 1: with massive propaganda and educational system, completely change history with
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, weren't they. Yeah, And that's the
Speaker 1: way it always works.
Speaker 2: Yet, part of recovering our senses is recovering our history
Speaker 2: and getting at the truth of things, and that the
Speaker 2: so called Civil war, which was nothing of the kind.
Speaker 2: It was an attempt by the South to secede, a
Speaker 2: very different thing, not a civil war. The South did
Speaker 2: not want to take over the North, right, not want
Speaker 2: to control of the whole country. They just wanted to depart,
Speaker 2: leave us alone a little, We're out of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the American colonies didn't want to take over England.
Speaker 1: They just wanted their independence. And that's what the Southern
Speaker 1: states were doing as well. So if that's illegitimate, there
Speaker 1: was no legitimacy for the American government to start with.
Speaker 1: But I think it's a perfectly legitimate thing to do.
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly right. And so I think you know what
Speaker 2: we do, you and I and other people do. If
Speaker 2: we can just get people to see even one example
Speaker 2: of the sort of manipulation of history and truth and facts,
Speaker 2: it's like you can't unsee it. No, that's the one
Speaker 2: blessing of the whole COVID thing. I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people have been disabused of the falsehood that the experts,
Speaker 2: the authorities, that they're well meaning, that they have our
Speaker 2: best interests at heart, and they can be trusted. We
Speaker 2: know now they are not to be trusted.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, for years we talked about the harm
Speaker 1: from mercury and vaccines and they say, oh, we took
Speaker 1: that out in two thousand and two, two thousand and three, No,
Speaker 1: they didn't. It's still in the flu shots. And they
Speaker 1: just had just revealed that and just said we're going
Speaker 1: to stop doing it in the food shots. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I believe that or not. You know, we
Speaker 1: look at it, but you know, they're keeping their fingers crossed, like, well,
Speaker 1: what we meant was the childhood vaccines. We met the
Speaker 1: MMR and other things like that. But you know, they
Speaker 1: manipulate the information. And you know, as we see all
Speaker 1: this stuff coming together, and the technocrat billionaires that have
Speaker 1: completely owned Trump. I don't know if you saw this
Speaker 1: or not, but uh, Peter Teele and Alex Karp, who
Speaker 1: runs a pollunteer, they've been they have been tied together
Speaker 1: with their venture capital firms, and now they want to
Speaker 1: come out and start making movies, and they were talking
Speaker 1: about that, the kind of movies that they want to make,
Speaker 1: And of course they're all going to be very jinguistic, militaristic,
Speaker 1: high tech, you know, and they'll throw in your subservience
Speaker 1: to the name of patriotism as well. But this is
Speaker 1: the next big thing coming.
Speaker 2: They're unwatchable. Hollywood is collapsing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there.
Speaker 2: Are occasionally exceptions, but for the most part, the direk
Speaker 2: that they are putting out is so awful as entertainment
Speaker 2: aside politics. It's poorly written, it's poorly acted, It's full
Speaker 2: of clumsy, cliched propaganda political purpose. People aren't tired of it.
Speaker 2: They don't watch it anymore.
Speaker 1: They grab you by the lapel and yell at you
Speaker 1: about LGBT and DEI and all the rest of the stuff.
Speaker 1: So there is perfect There is a big opportunity for
Speaker 1: somebody comes in, As they said, they want to do
Speaker 1: things like top Gun Hunt for Red October and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But of course they'll put their technocracy spin
Speaker 1: on it as well. You know, they could anybody could
Speaker 1: come in and start doing movies that are better in
Speaker 1: terms of acting a characterization, plot, you name it, and
Speaker 1: not hector people over this left wing nonsense and be successful.
Speaker 1: The key is are they going to come in and
Speaker 1: remake Things to Come? You know HG. Well's book Shape
Speaker 1: of Things to Come? If you remember that movie from
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties, that basically shows the kind of fascistic
Speaker 1: technocracy that they wish to put in, and Elon Musk's
Speaker 1: grandfather completely bought into that, and that's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons they wound up in South Africa, tried to tried
Speaker 1: to in state that instead of the former government that
Speaker 1: they had in Canada. But that's really where these guys
Speaker 1: are going. And I think they're going to be pretty
Speaker 1: successful at that, and that should worry us because that's
Speaker 1: a different kind of threat that's going to be coming here.
Speaker 1: It's going to take people a while to wake up
Speaker 1: with house.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm bullish and positive actually about this topic.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why. Look at how how Joe
Speaker 2: Rogan and he's just one example. You and I are
Speaker 2: another example. Look at how people like us have managed
Speaker 2: to sort of get around the mainstream media as it's full.
Speaker 2: Rogan's got a much bigger audience than people have had
Speaker 2: it enough. This whole thing has just reached its critical mass.
Speaker 2: And I think with regard to movies, independent studios that
Speaker 2: come up with qualities of that people like, you know,
Speaker 2: there's now a vehicle for getting that out there. I agree,
Speaker 2: maybe we don't have the media.
Speaker 1: I agree, it's just going to be a different it's
Speaker 1: going to be a different subtext for a different way
Speaker 1: to come at us. They're going to be coming at
Speaker 1: us from another angle. I mean, you take a look
Speaker 1: at the collapse of the late night talk shows that
Speaker 1: long ago stopped being funny and just hectored people with lectures.
Speaker 1: It's like, who in the world was watching that stuff anyway?
Speaker 1: It turns out they weren't. They were losing forty million
Speaker 1: a year on Cobert's show. But you know, so there
Speaker 1: is a big opportunity for somebody who wants to come
Speaker 1: in and do it differently. But then you've got to
Speaker 1: be careful what are they trying to sell you, even
Speaker 1: if they do it subtly, because you know, Hollywood for
Speaker 1: the longest time has been selling very subtle, very subtle
Speaker 1: philosophy and a worldview and the rest of this stuff,
Speaker 1: and if you just accept that without looking at it critically.
Speaker 1: That that is what has had a big role in
Speaker 1: changing our society. Goes back to the Franklin school. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've been working on these types of things, very calculating
Speaker 1: the way they do it. The problem with them was
Speaker 1: that they became a little bit too confident and they
Speaker 1: jumped the shark. You know, they did it right in
Speaker 1: your face, and they don't really care anymore of this.
Speaker 1: If it was more subtle, it'd be more effective, and
Speaker 1: I think that's probably what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: I think that trust is probably the most valuable currency
Speaker 2: that there is, and once you lose it, it's almost recoverable.
Speaker 2: And so now I think people are much more tuned
Speaker 2: into that. They want to feel as though that they
Speaker 2: can trust whoever it is that they're listening to, that
Speaker 2: they're viewing, and if they get a whiff of shadiness,
Speaker 2: a lot of people get immediately turned off by that,
Speaker 2: and good, there should be consequences for shadiness, you know,
Speaker 2: and for being a propagandist, and that's healthy. You know.
Speaker 2: People talk about a high trust society, and a high
Speaker 2: trust society is a good thing, but at the same time,
Speaker 2: you can't be naive. You can't just assume that everybody's
Speaker 2: benevolent and you know there's nothing harmful to this. A
Speaker 2: little more work to have to investigate and check things
Speaker 2: out and make a determination, But ultimately that's how we
Speaker 2: get back to some kind of an adult, healthy society
Speaker 2: instead of this fearful, infantilized society that we built up
Speaker 2: around us.
Speaker 1: That's right, well, Patrick Henry said in his day, he said,
Speaker 1: trust no man, but bind them down with the chains
Speaker 1: of the constitution. If they're not going to abide by
Speaker 1: the Constitution, they certainly don't deserve your trust. But you
Speaker 1: don't put blind trust in anybody. And it's just part
Speaker 1: of critical thinking. That's a key part of it. And
Speaker 1: so I think that's one of the things that we
Speaker 1: need to be very very wary of in one of
Speaker 1: the things that's always concerned me about Trump. That's why
Speaker 1: I see the Epstein stuff as very good, because at
Speaker 1: least some people are having second thoughts about blind trust
Speaker 1: in Trump. The biggest issue is people will come back
Speaker 1: and say, well, if we can't trust Trump, who can
Speaker 1: we trust. It's like no one trust yourself, trust your neighbors.
Speaker 1: Start working at the local level. You know, we just
Speaker 1: had a story about how on the sly they wanted
Speaker 1: to do these experiments to block out the sun. Well,
Speaker 1: where did it get stopped. It got stopped at the
Speaker 1: local government level. There are things that we can do.
Speaker 1: We need to understand the usual suspects of the federal
Speaker 1: government with its unlimited amounts of money, and they're trying
Speaker 1: to keep that thing going, and I think they will
Speaker 1: with a stable coin, but we need to understand that,
Speaker 1: especially if we use the constitution, there's a lot that
Speaker 1: can be done at the local level, and it's harder
Speaker 1: for them to control it. That's why they keep trying
Speaker 1: to move everything to the federal level so that they
Speaker 1: can get rid of any of these restrictions. We saw
Speaker 1: that what GIF is sitting there now talking about moving
Speaker 1: things to the federal level on other pesticides and basically
Speaker 1: giving them a big farm a deal in terms of
Speaker 1: legal immunity. And we know exactly why they're doing that,
Speaker 1: because they can buy a few people in Washington a
Speaker 1: lot more easily than they can buy people at the
Speaker 1: local level. And so you know, it's just as you
Speaker 1: point out, it's you know, people who are not a
Speaker 1: part of the system, and you have to look at
Speaker 1: what these people have done actually hold him accountable. I know,
Speaker 1: for the longest time one of the key weaknesses of
Speaker 1: Trump on this thing is not only did he campaign
Speaker 1: on it, but even before he was elected the first time,
Speaker 1: he had all this q and nonsense, that's what I
Speaker 1: call it, about how, oh he's gonna he's going to
Speaker 1: wrap up all these pedophile rings that are out there
Speaker 1: and all the rest of this stuff. I thought, really,
Speaker 1: with his background, they sold that for so long. You know,
Speaker 1: that's why it's so much deeper. It's not just a
Speaker 1: campaign promise. They had this entire mythology about how he
Speaker 1: was the white Knight who was going to come in
Speaker 1: and stop these known pedophile rings. They should have talked
Speaker 1: more about the actual pedophiles, like on Capitol Hill. Remember
Speaker 1: Dennis Aster, Oh my gosh, Yeah, we forgotten about that,
Speaker 1: the longest serving Speaker of the House for the Republicans,
Speaker 1: and he was picked because he was a pedophile wrestling
Speaker 1: coach and then made Speaker of the House. And you know,
Speaker 1: while he was of the House, they had two pedophile scandals.
Speaker 1: You remember the one with Mark Foley, the House.
Speaker 2: Page Scandalnie Frank red boys from his townhouse in Georgetown.
Speaker 1: That's right, the Hastart thing, you know, it was Hastart.
Speaker 1: I remember him going on with Russem Ball and just
Speaker 1: poo pooing all of it and saying, oh, they're only
Speaker 1: coming after folding these other guys, because that's what the
Speaker 1: Democrats are doing there. It is purely political. There's nothing
Speaker 1: real here. Well, it was real, and Denis Astert was
Speaker 1: eventually exposed as being a pedophile. And the most interesting
Speaker 1: thing about that whole thing to me was that after
Speaker 1: it was all known, what did they do about it? Nothing? Zero, zip, nada. Right,
Speaker 1: they could have gotten rid of the Statute of Limitations,
Speaker 1: which is incredibly short for pedophilia, and if they had
Speaker 1: done that, they could have prosecuted Hastard. Instead, what they
Speaker 1: did was a manufactured to crime so they could send
Speaker 1: him to jail and satisfy people into thinking that they're
Speaker 1: doing something about the pedophile networks when the whole system
Speaker 1: was set up to make sure they did nothing about
Speaker 1: the pedophile networks. And so, yeah, nothing is going to
Speaker 1: happen with this thing with Trump. But it's a little
Speaker 1: bit more cynicism and critical thought is going to be
Speaker 1: something that'll be very good if that can get into
Speaker 1: the mind.
Speaker 2: The world Trump's comments, you know, the arrogance and the
Speaker 2: narcissism that is his probable greatest weakness, Yeah, I think yeah,
Speaker 2: and that it makes him do things that just from
Speaker 2: his point of view are stupid. You know, I can
Speaker 2: call a support stupid is stupid politically, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: And yet he did that. And you know, just the
Speaker 2: that you can see it like snarling contempt that he
Speaker 2: has even for the people who support him, the moment
Speaker 2: they don't support him abjectively, the minute that they raise
Speaker 2: the question that they take off the red hat and say,
Speaker 2: wait a.
Speaker 1: Minute, uh, then he comes after them, doesn't he. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Hey, he commands slave literally slavish, obsequious, like you know,
Speaker 2: kurd dog rolling on its back, kick me kind of
Speaker 2: you know, follower followership. And that brings me to I
Speaker 2: think this this other point that I wanted to make.
Speaker 2: I think all of us, whatever your politics, stop looking
Speaker 2: for secular heroes and saviors. Yes, we see ourselves.
Speaker 1: That's how we absolutely stop looking for these heroes. It's
Speaker 1: it's idolatry and it's stupidity. It's amazing. You know how
Speaker 1: many times as one person's that you're talking about Trump's narcissism.
Speaker 1: You know, all these guys in politics are narcissist, and
Speaker 1: especially all these billionaires. Just take a look at Musk, right.
Speaker 1: It was a clash of egos that we're coming after
Speaker 1: each other. But of all the narcissists, you know, Trump
Speaker 1: does stick out in his own special category, doesn't he?
Speaker 2: He really does. Yeah, I mean he's he's a tour
Speaker 2: to force.
Speaker 1: Well, Eric is great talking to you, always is great
Speaker 1: talking to you, Eric petersautos dot com is a place
Speaker 1: to go for honest reviews. And you've got comments about
Speaker 1: about new cars and that we didn't get into the
Speaker 1: oil the underneath pan which makes maintenance more difficult, and
Speaker 1: well leak's more difficult to know about and all the
Speaker 1: rest of the stuff. But it's a lot of practical
Speaker 1: articles in there. The Perils of the PAN is that article.
Speaker 1: I love your site, always have loved it. And you
Speaker 1: focus on mobility and liberty. We can't have one without
Speaker 1: the other, can we? And and it's great to have
Speaker 1: an honest review. And if you're going to get shut
Speaker 1: down by car company for an honest review, and now
Speaker 1: you've been proven right to them as well. But I
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Speaker 2: Yeah again, it's heartbreaking to me because I'm a car guy.
Speaker 2: I love cars. Yeah, and you know, cities at one
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Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, I'm very I'm very negative on the
Speaker 1: survival ability of the entire German auto industry because it's
Speaker 1: not just their craven subservience to that aspect of the
Speaker 1: Green New Deal, but the Green New Deal from manufacturing
Speaker 1: in general in Germany is just sabotaging them, whether it's
Speaker 1: the manufacturing of steel or the ability to be able
Speaker 1: to compete in terms of cost on energy. They have
Speaker 1: the governments have put the businesses in Germany and France
Speaker 1: and especially the UK as such a competitive disadvantage. I
Speaker 1: don't see how they're going to be able to do
Speaker 1: any kind of manufacturing, especially something like automobiles and steel
Speaker 1: and that type of stuff. They've basically just given them
Speaker 1: monopoly or do optly, I should say, to India and
Speaker 1: China with the with the carbon mandates that they have
Speaker 1: on it. But again, it's always great talking to you,
Speaker 1: and thank you for being such a great friend. And
Speaker 1: really do appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Eric, Thank you. You know I appreciate our friendship and
Speaker 2: I appreciate having me on the show.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you, having good day, and before
Speaker 1: we leave, I just want to thank everyone for all
Speaker 1: the support in the last couple of days. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for supporting the show. We would not be
Speaker 1: here without you. Thank you for your prayers. And let's
Speaker 1: go out with a clip from Dennis hastert just a reminder,
Speaker 1: love this whole thing. Thank you, Eric Peters. Auto's di com.
Speaker 4: That shocking indictment former House speaker Dennis Haster charged with
Speaker 4: the line to the FBI and trying to hide secret payments,
Speaker 4: apparently to cover up misconduct in his past when he
Speaker 4: was a high school teacher and wrestling coach. ABC's John
Speaker 4: Carl has the story. Good morning John, Good morning George.
Speaker 5: The indictment alleges that Hastard had a dark secret in
Speaker 5: his distant pass and he was willing to pay millions
Speaker 5: to keep it a secret. Dennis Hastert was once the
Speaker 5: most powerful man in Congress. Now he stands accused of
Speaker 5: a dark past before his career in politics. Federal prosecutors
Speaker 5: have charged a seventy three year old Hastart with bank
Speaker 5: fraud and line to the FBI connection to a promise
Speaker 5: he made to pay an unidentified person three point five
Speaker 5: million dollars in hush money. Prosecutors say Hastart started making
Speaker 5: the payments five years ago to quote, compensate and conceal
Speaker 5: his prior misconduct. It's quite a fall for the man
Speaker 5: who was chosen Speaker of the House because he had
Speaker 5: a reputation as being mister clean.
Speaker 6: It's popular these days to ask political figures what mistakes
Speaker 6: they've made where they've failed. As a former history teacher,
Speaker 6: I know such analysis is best tempered by time and reflection,
Speaker 6: and that is probably best left to others.
Speaker 5: The indictment doesn't say what Hastart was trying to cover
Speaker 5: up or who he was paying, but it points to
Speaker 5: his time as a high school teacher and wrestling coach
Speaker 5: in Yorkville, Illinois, and notes the unnamed person has known
Speaker 5: Hastart for most of his or her life. The indictment
Speaker 5: alleges Hastart's structure withdrawals from his bank accounts to avoid detection,
Speaker 5: taking out just under ten thousand dollar in one hundred
Speaker 5: separate transactions. When asked about it, Hastart told the FBI, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I kept the cash. That's what I'm doing. His former
Speaker 5: constituents are surprised by the news. You're prideful of.
Speaker 6: People that are coming from your community and trying to
Speaker 6: make a difference in Illinois.
Speaker 2: It's just disappointing.
Speaker 5: There's no word from Dennis Hastert this morning or from
Speaker 5: his legal team, but he has reportedly stepped down from
Speaker 5: his job at a powerful Washington, DC lobbying firm, and
Speaker 5: that firm, George, has removed Hastart's bio from its website.
Speaker 4: But as he said, John, we really don't know what
Speaker 4: conduct he was trying to cover up.
Speaker 5: That is a complete mystery here. There is no indication
Speaker 5: whatsoever except in that indictment. It says that his time
Speaker 5: as a wrestling coach and a high school teacher back
Speaker 5: in Yonville, Illinois, way back when is material to this indictment,
Speaker 5: so it apparently is something that he did back when
Speaker 5: he was a high school teacher.
Speaker 4: Okay, John Carl, thanks very much.
Speaker 2: I know you have more on Sunday nd this week