WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.919 --> 00:00:05.919 Warrington kept up there, winning run. It's been a while. 2 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:07.480 I'm going to start that again because I had the 3 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:12.400 handover it. Warrington kept up there, winning run. It's been 4 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:15.199 a while since Wigan one whole k are are picking 5 00:00:15.279 --> 00:00:18.800 up some pace. Cass and the Dragons lost a bit 6 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:22.320 of face. Bradford are in that basket too. Lee and 7 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:24.879 John are here to update you. Welcome to the nineteenth 8 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:29.559 episode of Super League three sixty, a podcast primarily about 9 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:31.000 the top tier of British rugby league. 10 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:37.000 My name is Lee Addison and my name is John Davidson. 11 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:42.079 John's in England is a journalist, but as you can 12 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:44.679 tell by that a very strange accent, is an Australian 13 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:47.600 and believe it or not, with my accent, i am 14 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:55.079 in Australia. Please read previous descriptions and sorry the description 15 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:57.640 of this podcast and listen to pass pods for more detail. 16 00:00:57.679 --> 00:01:00.439 I'm a coach over here. This podcast is being aired 17 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:03.600 on the Ashy Rugby League Rugby League Coach podcast platforms, 18 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:06.359 as well as a Rugby League Coach YouTube too, so 19 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.519 if you subscribe to those you won't miss a thing. 20 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:13.439 Also Rugby League dot Com. What's your Rugby league consumption 21 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:14.519 been like this weekend. 22 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:21.879 John watched the Thursday night game closely, well I watched 23 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:24.799 I mean I know I watched it. I can't remember 24 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:28.159 what it was. But the Thursday morning, well sorry Thursday 25 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:34.760 night in our old game. Watched the Sharks, Cowboys and 26 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:40.719 Yes and mainly Para and watched a lot of highlights 27 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:44.599 of the other super League games because I was out 28 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:46.599 and about so having a social life. 29 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:48.000 How dare you? 30 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:51.760 The Super League table after round nine Leeds Rhinos are 31 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:56.159 top with fourteen points, but they're level on points with St. 32 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:59.599 Helen's who are in second. Warrington are in third with 33 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:03.560 twelve twelve, Wakefield Trinity in fourth and level one points 34 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:07.000 with them with twelve. Holking some Rovers have climbed into 35 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:11.120 the top six now they are fifth with ten points, 36 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:14.840 and Wigan have slid to sixth on ten points and 37 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:18.719 Catalans are also level with them with seven points in 38 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:23.080 their bank. Hull Left c are in eighth with eight points, 39 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:30.120 Lee Leopard's ninth with eight points. York Bradford are both 40 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:35.039 on six points as our Castle for Tigers in tenth, 41 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:44.599 eleventh and twelve respectfully, thirteenth respectively, sorry thirteenth. Huersfield Giants 42 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:49.759 on four fourteenth to lose on four holding everybody up. 43 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:55.000 I think the big news last week John was the 44 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:57.360 England coaching job, and we'll get to that, but before 45 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:00.120 we get to that, we're going to talk about a 46 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:02.840 few different things. So Lee's laugh. This week is another 47 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:05.840 interim see all of the rugby foot Wall League. What 48 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:07.840 the hell are they doing? How many interims do they 49 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:09.919 need before they what's going on there? 50 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:16.000 Well, they had what Tony Saton left September October, then 51 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:21.120 they appointed Avuakoku interim CEO till well March April. I 52 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:25.479 don't think there was really any job available as in advertised. 53 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:30.759 They just Cucko who was on the Strategic Niger Woods 54 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:32.520 do Strategic Review group. 55 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:34.719 And Roder Jones. 56 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.800 Obviously he is the managing director of Rugby League Commercial, 57 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:41.439 which is the commercial arm of British rugby Leaf shall 58 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:45.680 we say so they've been advertising for that job, and 59 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:47.879 I know obviously Tony Mestrov's been a name has been 60 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:50.280 put out, but they don't seem to have for some 61 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:52.840 reason made a decision and they've just made Rogery interim. 62 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:57.599 So yeah, it's I mean, I don't really know how 63 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:00.680 much we can say about the governments of. 64 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:03.080 The game in the UK. You know what, I'm not 65 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:03.960 sure if you saw it. 66 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:07.639 I know I posted it on my Instagram, but James 67 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:11.599 Graham's comments about the NRL talks with Super League and 68 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:15.000 Andrew as visit and you know, the governance in the UK. 69 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.399 He was just calling it an absolute joke and it's 70 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:20.240 hard to argue with him when you when you've got 71 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:23.279 Super League, you've got the RFL, you've got Rugby League commercial, 72 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:27.199 you've got all these different boards, a lot of the 73 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:29.240 same people sitting on the same boards, but it's quite 74 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:31.480 just quite a convoluted structure. And then you've also got 75 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:35.959 the RFL Council. So yeah, convoluted is certainly one way 76 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:39.839 to put it. Tweet of the Week was for Allan Smith. 77 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:42.920 What an awful headline but goes with your agenda of 78 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:46.560 talking the game down at any opportunity. And the person 79 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.360 is talking about he's our man, John David. What was 80 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:50.000 all that about? 81 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:50.279 John? 82 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:53.800 That was about my my the follow up my latest 83 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:57.279 story in North Wales. I think the headline, I mean, 84 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:00.079 just for people who don't work in the media and 85 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:04.480 have never worked in the media. Journalists well, traditionally journalists 86 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:05.519 never write headlines. 87 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:10.040 You never suggest them, like when you're sending you things, 88 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:13.120 yes you do, yeah, yeah, yeah, And when I say never, 89 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:15.680 I've got to quantify that. So obviously that that story 90 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:19.000 was for a national newspaper that I freelance sports, so 91 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:24.240 I didn't write that headline from my own patreon, I 92 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.480 do write the headlines because you're editing and writing, and 93 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:30.560 you know it's a mascot. 94 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:33.079 But I didn't write that headline. Generally that sub editors 95 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:37.600 or sports editors copy editors. So yeah, I appreciate Alan's 96 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:39.680 support on that one, but I didn't write the headline. 97 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:42.480 And he also said, maybe speak to somebody at Wales 98 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:44.279 Rugby League and they will tell you of all the 99 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:48.560 teams at community level and the work being done at grassroots. 100 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:52.160 Yeah, I understand where he's coming from. And that bit 101 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:54.439 in the sense that the headline was something like, you know, 102 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:58.279 rugby league on the brink of extinction in Wales or whatever. 103 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:02.720 Now that was talking about professional game. So North Wales Crusaders, 104 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:05.959 they're in the championship, they're on the brink of going bust. 105 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:11.879 South Wales, I mean sorry, South Wales. West Wales they 106 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.279 did rebrand numerous times. I think it was West Wales 107 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:17.399 they died off in twenty twenty two. I think it 108 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:22.079 was for twenty three. Isn't another professional club in Wales 109 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:26.959 Wales didn't qualify for the World Cup that's on this year, 110 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.279 you could say Welsh rugby League. Well, while there is 111 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:31.399 no doubt doing some great work in the amateur game, 112 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:33.360 in the community game, and the women's games growing a bit, 113 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:38.680 the actual professional game is non existent. Yes, And I 114 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.959 think with Wales rugby League, with their change in the 115 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:44.959 national team, you know as in didn't make the World Cup, 116 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.480 John Key left, they're actually I think some of their 117 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:50.399 players actually came out a while ago and said they're 118 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:52.759 not paying their players to actually pay either play for 119 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:55.879 the country, which a lot of people be like, oh, 120 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:57.519 you shouldn't have to, you shouldn't get paid to play 121 00:06:57.519 --> 00:06:59.920 for your country. But that's just a way of modern 122 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:04.519 professional sport. So yeah, the game's not in a great 123 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:09.639 way there. And Alan is an absolute fruit loop for 124 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:13.800 just suggesting. And he's also a fruit loop for suggesting 125 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:16.759 that I haven't like my gender is talking the game down, 126 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:21.480 Like I mean, I was tempted to send Alan all 127 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:24.680 the recent tweets and stories that I've said about great 128 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:29.639 tries and great moments and entertaining things. Or I could 129 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:32.680 bore him with all the sacrifices and things that I've done, 130 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:35.399 you know, whether it be unpaid or or things that 131 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:38.399 I've done because I love the sport. But yeah, I 132 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:40.120 don't want to bore Alan too much. He sounds like 133 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:41.319 a tender, tender soul. 134 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:44.959 I've also decided that that's Johnny's jab because I knew 135 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:48.600 what you kind of response to that would be another 136 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:50.639 Rugby League tweet of the week has only just come 137 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:53.959 through really, and there's a few people tweeted this, but 138 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:57.920 I've gone with Michael carry Arnis about West Tiger's captain 139 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:01.279 Jerome Loue Eye meeting with chiefs officials and P and G. 140 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:03.399 Now we are Super League three sixty, but we do 141 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:05.720 talk about the m r L two and I thought 142 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:09.480 that'd be quite pertinent, seen as it's quite fresh, fresh 143 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:10.480 in the news cycle. 144 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:17.720 Yeah, it's I spotted that this morning. You can look 145 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:19.920 at a number of different ways. If you're a Tigers fan, 146 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:23.720 you're pissed off because they're absolutely flying at the moment. 147 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:27.639 They're having the best season in ages, and you know, 148 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:30.920 you don't want one of your best players, you know, 149 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.080 linked with another club and he's got these weird get 150 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:38.320 out causes, hasn't he that he can activate. If you're 151 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:42.879 a P G Chiefs supporter or from BEng you're probably 152 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:46.080 loving it because you know, if you if they get 153 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.519 a big name, a big star name, that's going to 154 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:52.320 attract atherstar names to join. And he's probably gone over there. 155 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.840 It's on the break for a bit of a holiday, 156 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:56.559 but also to have a look around and see what 157 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:58.519 they're doing. And I'm sure they've pitched him hard and 158 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:00.480 it's to their benefit to kind of that out in 159 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:02.080 the media and get people talking about it. 160 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:04.720 You've mentioned the word holiday. I don't think you go 161 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:08.240 to P and G for a holiday. 162 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:12.759 Well, I mean, I think I think it's probably fair though, 163 00:09:12.759 --> 00:09:14.519 if you're a player and you want to, you're interested 164 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:16.679 in signing, you're considering sign you probably would. If you've 165 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:18.159 never been to the country, you would want to go 166 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.799 and check it out, wouldn't you. Because there's a lot 167 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:25.519 of stereotypes about P and G, a lot of opinions. 168 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:27.919 I've never been there, so I can't really you know, 169 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:32.080 I can look at the statistics and say it's got 170 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:34.360 the I don't know whatever it is the sixth highest 171 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:35.320 murder rate or whatever. 172 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:38.360 You know. Obviously statistics can be used. 173 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:41.159 But the country's got you know, I think it's fair 174 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:44.440 to say it's the third world country, isn't it. Yeah, 175 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:48.879 so yeah, it's It is an interesting one because I 176 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:50.519 think didn't Leu White say the other week that he 177 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:53.639 played reserve grade for for job Man to you know, 178 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:57.399 job man. So that's also an interesting comment. 179 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:01.799 John's tweet of the week You can tweet him at 180 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:06.759 Johnny D. Davidson. One from two days ago. Oo, wow, 181 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:10.879 I think it is shades of g I and G Gasnier. 182 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:14.000 Who was this that was? That was actually well, I 183 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:15.559 think I think we did that in afternoon. 184 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:16.320 That was the. 185 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:19.799 I think actually no, it was either. I think it 186 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:22.960 was Jesse d. So basically the ball was going out 187 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:26.320 and he had to to to lose players chasing and 188 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:30.120 he just popped it back in field to Galiano. I 189 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:32.600 think the score and yeah, I like that two thousand 190 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:37.039 and eight Ensact test try that Joe I whacked the 191 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:37.639 ball back. 192 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:39.399 In the gas and as he was going out. It 193 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:40.919 was a great bit of skill. 194 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:48.559 England have a new coach Brian McDermott. I personally I'm 195 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:50.960 pleased with that, but I thought that was the fair choice. 196 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:55.480 What do you think, John, Yeah, look, I think it's 197 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:56.399 an interesting choice. 198 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:02.759 I think he's without that a good coach, had success, 199 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:05.639 a lot of success in Super League. I think it's 200 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:09.519 interesting what he said in his first press are his 201 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:11.519 first you know, we can win the World Cup. 202 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:13.919 He had a bit of a shot at Sean Wayne. 203 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:18.600 Didn't he about about jingoism at thought that was interesting 204 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.240 and his joke Connor comments, Look, it seems like to 205 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:24.799 him he's, you know, it's going to be a fresh 206 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:27.120 and open book. I guess, you know, in the sense 207 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:29.639 that he's gonna he's not going to go in there 208 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:34.759 with any preconceived conceptions about players. He's going to pick 209 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:37.039 on form and he's going to give everyone a chance. 210 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:39.919 So yeah, I think it's probably a bit of fresh air. 211 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:42.639 The other component I think we'll probably talk about is 212 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:44.759 George Williams injury, which puts him in doubt because I 213 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:46.600 think I think he said George Williams will be my 214 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:51.080 captain for the World Cup, and he is injured, it 215 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:52.240 might not play in the World Cup. 216 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.600 So let me let me talk about his dig at 217 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:57.720 Wayne first, like, yeah, I don't think there was any 218 00:11:57.720 --> 00:11:59.279 point in him having a dig. 219 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:01.039 I don't see what the benefit was there. 220 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.679 I think he could have made his point without having 221 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:05.559 a dig at the previous coach. He could have just 222 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.320 said Jake Connor is totally in my thoughts and whatever 223 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:13.000 has happened before is in the past. And instead it 224 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:15.240 was a bit of a veiled dig And you know, 225 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:17.759 I know, I know he's a very tough man, Brian McDermott, 226 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:19.879 But yeah, I just don't I don't think there's I 227 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:25.200 didn't think that was needed. But hey ho, in terms 228 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:28.360 of their halves, you've got a question here, who captains 229 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:31.559 England and who are their halves? Well, I would have 230 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.840 thought now the obvious ones are Mikey Lewis at six 231 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:38.720 and Jake Connor at seven based on what we've seen 232 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:43.360 in Super League, of course, though mcderbot has also thrown 233 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:46.720 the door open for anybody who qualifies in Australia, so 234 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:50.519 if there's any maybe maybe there's a half back with 235 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:54.240 an English granddad somewhere that that's playing or running around 236 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:57.000 in the NRL, or who knows, maybe in the Queensland Cup. 237 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:00.279 Or the new South Wales Cup. Who knows. So I 238 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:02.799 don't think that'll be picked him from reserve grade. 239 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.120 Well, there's enough first grade players in England that have 240 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:11.879 played in reserve grade. So and George Williams is injury too, 241 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:13.639 I mean, how serious is that mate? 242 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:16.120 It looks yeah, it looks very bad. 243 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.000 I mean I think there's there's fears that he won't 244 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:19.080 play again this season. 245 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:22.039 Wow, there's a neck injury, isn't it. 246 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:24.080 Yeah, So I think obviously if he's got to go 247 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:27.679 under the knife, you just don't know Harry recovers. The 248 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:29.639 interesting thing is that he's actually been in a great 249 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:32.799 form this year here. I mean last year terrible season, 250 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:36.039 wasn't great the Ashes, but he's actually been in really 251 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:39.039 good form. So it's it's really sad for George, for 252 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:42.720 Warrington and yeah, I mean I think it does open 253 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:46.799 the door again once more for for Jake Connor. And 254 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:50.320 Harry Smith is injured at the moment, probably not been 255 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.279 sending the world on fire. Obviously, different sort of player 256 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:57.679 to Jake Connor, different sort of half back. So yeah, 257 00:13:57.679 --> 00:13:59.360 I think if you're picking, if you're if you're the 258 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:01.799 World Cup was nowt week and you're picking your England squad, 259 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:05.360 you'd have Connor and Lewis. Lewis's on you know, it's 260 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:09.440 on absolute fire. I think hat trick against Bradford yesterday 261 00:14:10.039 --> 00:14:12.559 set up another try for maybe with a great kick, 262 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:18.039 So yeah, you'd have those two jobs there doing. 263 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.279 But yeah, I mean we can win it. Comment what 264 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:26.159 did you make of that? Way? Do you mean a 265 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:32.720 game or you're the you're the patriotic Englishman? Even Yeah? 266 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:36.480 No, I mean again, I mean you're damned if you do, 267 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:37.879 and you damned if you don't. I mean, if he 268 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:42.159 was asked some question, yeah, then you're not going to 269 00:14:42.200 --> 00:14:44.799 say no. I mean I've criticized shame Flangan enough for 270 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:46.360 saying no, we can't win the premiership. 271 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:50.639 So you know, but. 272 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:55.960 England meg winning a World Cup. England went in the 273 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.720 World Cup. But as a coach and I expect the 274 00:14:58.759 --> 00:14:59.720 coach to think they will. 275 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:02.879 Yeah, look, I think I agree with you. 276 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:05.240 I think the Flannagan thing, you know we can't win 277 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:08.360 the comp down immediately sublilably just says well, you know, 278 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:10.240 why are we even bothering? 279 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:11.600 So I think I think I think you're right. 280 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:12.919 You've got to go out and say, look, we can 281 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:15.559 win it, you know, but I think i'd like to 282 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:18.399 hear from him. You talked about having a specific plan. 283 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:20.519 You know, we don't know what that plan is, you 284 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:24.000 you know. And also just to sort of say, okay, 285 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:28.360 why hasn't you know England won anything for fifty five years? 286 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:28.600 You know? 287 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:32.159 And I know that's not an easy question to answer that, 288 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:34.399 it'd be interesting to get his insight or why he 289 00:15:34.519 --> 00:15:38.360 thinks that that England hasn't and probably hasn't really been 290 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:41.279 in many finals or winning positions for quite some time 291 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:42.879 either by twenty seventeen. 292 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:46.360 But yeah, I mean it's a couple of big games. 293 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:48.720 Well it's two big games against Tonga and P and G. Really, 294 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:51.000 I think they'll get to the semifinals and they play 295 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:55.159 Australia on New Zealand, you know, and then they win 296 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:57.440 one of those games and that's massive success. But I 297 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:00.799 think even getting the semifinals was probably, you know, in 298 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:02.759 some ways of success when you look at well, there's 299 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:05.039 no quarter final this time, is there? No? Y? 300 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:09.960 Yeah, three games it's I think it's France, Tong Hour 301 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:11.960 and P and G. Whether it's in that order or 302 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:14.960 I'm not sure, but yeah, I think I think they've 303 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:17.840 got to get to the semi finals and then you know, 304 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:19.799 if they can get to the final, or you know, 305 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:22.879 if they win the whole thing, then you know, Sir 306 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:25.559 Brian McDermott definitely without a doubt. 307 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:28.960 What was the press unveiling? Was it a zoom thing? 308 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:31.159 It was a zoom thing? 309 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:33.120 Mad because obviously he's on the Gold Coast, is the 310 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:34.240 assistant coach at the times? 311 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:38.080 I wasn't on the What was it? 312 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:41.799 It was about ten o'clock on Thursday. They announced it 313 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:46.159 on AM, Yes, am, so it would have it would 314 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:50.279 have been one am for him. No, no, no, no, 315 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:52.919 ten am sorry ten am UK time? So what's that 316 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:59.480 seven am Australian time? No, yeah, because you're at. 317 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:06.480 One am ten pm? Was it ten pm? Ten am 318 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:09.759 u K ten a m u K is one am 319 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:10.759 in the morning here. 320 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:13.759 I don't think it's that many. 321 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:17.839 I'm going no, sorry, sorry forget all that. I've only 322 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:21.839 lived here twenty years. I'm going, I'm getting your night 323 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:24.640 seven seven pm here, seven pm here. 324 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:27.920 I'm looking forward to the tremendous airing job that you're 325 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:29.640 going to make. No, no, no, I'm going to keep 326 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:29.880 it in. 327 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:33.759 I'm going to keep it in the especially because we 328 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:37.599 the other week you were criticizing the Sky commentators for 329 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:39.359 getting names wrong, the amount of things you and I 330 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:45.359 get wrong sometimes, especially me sometimes. 331 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:46.240 Yeah. 332 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:49.039 So they did it on Zoom at seven pm. 333 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:55.799 Yeah, which was fine once in George's day. I think 334 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:59.680 specifically because it's the England coaching job. But it is 335 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.359 funny because these things like it was linked out four 336 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:11.440 or five days before. It's like big unveiling, big confirmation. Yeah, 337 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:14.160 look at the I think Chris frad I didn't realize 338 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:16.559 this at first, but Chris Radlynsky was on the panel 339 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:22.039 as well, which is interesting. Field would and Sarah Symington, 340 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:28.240 who I think has a hockey and athletics background. But yeah, 341 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:30.880 it's a short term appointment, so it's kind of I guess, 342 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:32.519 see what you can do with the World Cup and 343 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:35.839 then we'll reassess. And I think if you McDermott, you 344 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:38.519 you'd want you know. And he said this, he wants 345 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:40.359 a longer term appointment. He wants you know. 346 00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:45.960 Yeah, we've lost the game. Four Super League games on 347 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:50.680 the bounce, four losses in five games. I mean, do 348 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:54.920 we use the C word crisis, I'm not sure. I 349 00:18:54.960 --> 00:19:03.720 mean they're missing they're missing their two halves. But I 350 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.720 think check Wordle was back for the Warrington game. It's 351 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:10.480 a tough one and they're not playing well. You know, 352 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:15.960 the lot the results show that, and there've been some 353 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:18.319 really poor performances, like the hardest feel game in that 354 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.640 was you know, they were dire. The cast of the game, 355 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:25.400 they were very dire, and I think looking at the 356 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:28.839 Warrington game that Warrington are a good team in great form. 357 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:33.400 The worrying thing for me was some of the lion 358 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:37.039 speed and the contact defense. Two of the tries, particularly 359 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:38.720 the first one three looks like you've just got gy 360 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:42.160 Field not coming off the line and Gryfield has never 361 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:45.799 been the world's greatest defending fullback, but you've got to 362 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:49.440 make a bit more effort now their attack's not really 363 00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:53.319 throwing any punches. So yeah, it's a weird one. 364 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:54.039 I think. 365 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.000 I don't know if crisis is fair, but there are 366 00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:58.799 obviously a lot of people, a lot of Wigan fans 367 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:01.359 who are not happy writing them off. 368 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:06.480 I think in isolation, so forget the other fixtures. I 369 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:09.880 think Wigan losing at Warrington is not that shocker result. 370 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:14.160 You know, that's happened plenty of times before. What hasn't 371 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:17.559 happened a lot though before is previously Castleford winning at Wigan, 372 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:21.279 especially when their bottom two in the Super Lic Ladder, 373 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:27.039 the way they lost the Good Friday Derby after being 374 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:29.400 in control for most of the game and then falling 375 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:34.599 asleep from the last ten, and then a pretty significant 376 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:39.559 sizeable defeat against Huddersfield on the twenty eighth of March 377 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:44.640 and at home as well, And do you remember we 378 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:46.319 did after the hoot and I said there was some 379 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:49.160 warning signs there for wigged on the Thursday, the nineteenth 380 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:53.119 of March, when they only scraped home against York. So 381 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:57.599 we're talking since the middle of March basically, and we're 382 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:01.119 going to be in May very soon. So this isn't 383 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:05.000 This isn't something that's just happened overnight. This is now 384 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:09.880 baked in, I think, And you do have to worry, 385 00:21:09.880 --> 00:21:10.359 I think, and. 386 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:11.359 I guess. 387 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:19.200 We're gonna so used to success and demanding success. They 388 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:23.480 play Bradford at home on Saturday, and I'm very sure 389 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:27.799 they'll win that because Bradford are so depleted. And then 390 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:30.920 on Saturday, the ninth of May, they've got Saint Helen's 391 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:35.440 and the Cup. That's a huge game. If they were 392 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:39.400 to lose that, then I think there might be some 393 00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:43.519 serious questions asked in that joint, if they aren't being 394 00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:46.720 asked already. I know what Maurice Lindsay would have done 395 00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:50.680 for losses on the Trot. Put it that way, Oh, 396 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:53.519 the coach would have been gone by now two years. 397 00:21:55.359 --> 00:22:00.119 Even if you'd won, even if you Okay. 398 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:02.319 Frank Kencott made the Grand Final of the year before 399 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:05.079 and got sat. I think he'd lost two games on 400 00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:09.240 the Trots or something like that, three games on the. 401 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:11.519