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<v Speaker 1>On he didn't say one. Is it an industry thing? Yes? Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>there we.

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<v Speaker 2>Go right, welcome to and listen to this the CEO

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<v Speaker 2>pre show for episode four seventy nine and and the

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<v Speaker 2>awesome bracket game. Holy shit, that didn't sound as awesome

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<v Speaker 2>as I thought I was going to.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but we know how people are going to enter

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<v Speaker 1>to win stuff today, which is finn Yes, yes we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So here's the thing brought to you by the

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful patrons at patreon dot com slash CECO podcast whether

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<v Speaker 2>they like it or not, and they do or they will.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what we have. You've heard of Commander bracket.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has heard of the bracket at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe most like that's what we're talking about this

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<v Speaker 2>week on the pre show today, on the regular show tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been asked about our extended thoughts. I've done some

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<v Speaker 2>discussion with the members of the CCO nation and our discord.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you've lurked in there.

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<v Speaker 2>We've watched some of our own content or like stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and formulated some opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to the Dude bros yesterday. Oh yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>did they say while they're drinking beer. Oh good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>They say most of the same things that I was

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<v Speaker 1>saying or will be saying. Lots of threes, lots of

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<v Speaker 1>threes out there, and I have the numbers to back

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<v Speaker 1>it up written on this piece.

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<v Speaker 2>I have the numbers to back it up as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what I got to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of ones is threes. And you will not be

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<v Speaker 1>able to guess which one is my strongest deck according

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<v Speaker 1>to the bracket. No, you'll never guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, okay, see it's it's It opens up so

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<v Speaker 2>many different avenues for conversation. You'll never guess, like where

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<v Speaker 2>one or a couple of my decks land based on

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<v Speaker 2>having one card in them or whatever. Right, bellows a

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<v Speaker 2>one bellows a one fellow.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's fucking not one. No.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why we talk, and that's why we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of make our way through everything and discuss like the

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<v Speaker 2>the intent, right intent?

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<v Speaker 1>Very important?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I follow the law or do I follow.

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<v Speaker 1>The intent of the law? Very important? Oh, Maggie agrees

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<v Speaker 1>with that one for sure, very much. So what a dog?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? Timmy stuck in the well? She's sad

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<v Speaker 1>because producer Gary not here today, and Maggie is Gary's Girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, producer Dragoon on the ones and twos. Yes, as

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<v Speaker 2>another industry buzzword.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Panzer Dragoon. If you've played that game, yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>rail Shooter, it's pretty good. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So speaking of game, here's the thing games. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got in front of me. I just got to

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<v Speaker 2>got to bring it up because it's not in front

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<v Speaker 2>of me. I have in front of me the list

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<v Speaker 2>of Game Changers. Okay, So we've got forty cards that

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<v Speaker 2>are help you determine what level your games are at. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get into it tomorrow, but you're watching a

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<v Speaker 2>magic podcast on the internet, you probably already know what

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<v Speaker 2>they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you me each color or each color,

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<v Speaker 2>what card would you take off of the list? And

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<v Speaker 2>what card would you maybe have or put onto the list.

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<v Speaker 2>That one's a little bit harder because it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit on the spot. Yeah, okay, So I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>though I'm putting you on the spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you prepared with answers as well? Or is this

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<v Speaker 1>just me playing and everybody else? Also, if you put

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<v Speaker 1>your answers in the comments below, you could win yourself

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<v Speaker 1>a Ceco sticker. Pack, a Ceco token back or a

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<v Speaker 1>lame masshold pack of magic the gathering cards. Did you see.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody I did and call themselves a trollock? You you

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<v Speaker 2>even started and flagged it in the email. You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>well's got this? This is awesome? Yes, yeah, last week's

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<v Speaker 2>booster has gone out. And when I say booster pack, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean yeah, they asked for a booster packs. It's so,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got the list White Grandith, Magistrate, Enlightened Tutor, Sarah's Sanctum,

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<v Speaker 2>Smothering Titties or trouble in pairs?

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<v Speaker 1>Which card do you take off mothering tithe s mothering ties,

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<v Speaker 1>smothering tithe and.

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<v Speaker 2>Reason sir in I don't know twenty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Or twenty seconds or less. I think that it's ubiquitous enough,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's we've all seen smothering Tithe played and how

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<v Speaker 1>many games has it actually absolutely taken over and blown

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<v Speaker 1>out in a way. It's like, man, I wish they

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<v Speaker 1>just banned that card unless somebody else is drawing a

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<v Speaker 1>degenerate number of cards like it's it's fine, it's because

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<v Speaker 1>it's white.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what the thing about smothering tie, This

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<v Speaker 2>is the kind of card that gets better as your

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<v Speaker 2>opponent's decks get better because the manna that they're using

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<v Speaker 2>is tighter, and probably they're drawing more cards than what

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<v Speaker 2>is normal, Like smothering Tithe versus the one ring better

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<v Speaker 2>than smothering Tithe versus turn six h six drop go yes, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so smothering Tithe.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I I have trouble with the redundancies within the bracket

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<v Speaker 2>explanations and having tutors in the in the game changers list,

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<v Speaker 2>So I would want to say enlightened tutor, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say Sarah's sank.

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<v Speaker 1>Because nobody has that. A.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody has it. B if you're playing in sanctioned tournaments

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<v Speaker 2>like like it face to face opens where they have

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<v Speaker 2>like the ceed h five k's, yeah, those are sanctioned

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<v Speaker 2>magic events, no proxies. Yeah, everybody's got like four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and five hundred dollars magic cards kicking around. Also, it's

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<v Speaker 2>only good if you chock your deck full of like

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<v Speaker 2>one and two drop enchantments like Utopia, sprawl and and

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<v Speaker 2>wild growth and stuff, and and that's a very specific

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<v Speaker 2>deck that' probably not gonna run into very often. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>onto blue, Oh, what would you add?

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<v Speaker 1>What would you add in white test protection? Oo. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like looking at this list and listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>explanation of why things are on this list from a

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<v Speaker 1>couple other people, there's a lot of I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>use the word butt hurt, but I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>say the word but hurt out loud. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of feel bad inclusions on here, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>Tefts Protection falls under that umbrella where it just takes

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<v Speaker 1>a win and turns it into a probably a loss

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<v Speaker 1>because somebody's like, yeah, I'm gonna win, damn.

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<v Speaker 2>It, I'm gonna win, but except for one guy, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm probably gonna lose because all my marbles are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be in one basket over in Timbuctoo and this

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<v Speaker 2>guy coming straight down Broadway right at my nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, now I'm dead. So yeah, I think in

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit of the list, I feel TEFT Protection does

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<v Speaker 1>belong on here. Originally I thought Armageddon, but I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's a good one. They've talked about the land

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<v Speaker 1>denial stuff and we'll talk about that more tomorrow. Goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to the redundancy, So I just well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna waste my you put on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I like Teft's Protection. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it needs to be on the list. If it were

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<v Speaker 2>on the list, I would cite a different reason. I

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<v Speaker 2>would cite the not the feel bad reason like you do,

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<v Speaker 2>but the reason that it gets It doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's a card that gets better the higher kind of

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<v Speaker 2>competition you play it at.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, the card is good when.

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<v Speaker 2>You're playing core and upgraded, like the lower tier or

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<v Speaker 2>the lower brackets, when mostly you're gonna win the game

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<v Speaker 2>with combat damage. You're you're you're Teft's protecting when you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get attacked, and it's powerful there, and it's also

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<v Speaker 2>powerful when somebody's comboing on a single turn in ceed eight.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like powerful everywhere. Yeah yeah, okay, So onto

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Blue. We got Cyclonic Rift, ex appropriate force of Will,

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<v Speaker 2>fierce Guardians, ristic study, fasstis oracle ER's a lord, high artificer,

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<v Speaker 2>mystical tutor, And ginga taxis core Augur. That's ginga taxis

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<v Speaker 2>one the guy that makes your opponent's hand into zero.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so easy, and it's ginga taxes. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell you with somebody that plays Ginga taxes

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<v Speaker 1>in a deck. I have never, not one time, not

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<v Speaker 1>a single time ever ever seen somebody discard their entire

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<v Speaker 1>hand to a Ginga taxis. And I have never drawn

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<v Speaker 1>seven cards at the end of my turn. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a four to three for fucking ten, it does cost ten.

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<v Speaker 1>It costs ten in it does cost ten. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>five to four. But it's whatever. It's a minuscule sized

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<v Speaker 1>creature with no evasion for ten. You don't minus. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me expropriate why is that extra turns fell more egregious

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<v Speaker 1>than the other ones?

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<v Speaker 2>Very specifically, it can give you chained extra turns, and

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<v Speaker 2>then then it introduce is like a redundancy again in

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<v Speaker 2>the game changer's list and the bracket kind of rules system.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's already redundant. It costs eight. No sorry, it

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<v Speaker 2>costs nine even more, and it is when you're at nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you're at the point in the game if you're

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<v Speaker 2>playing like upgraded or three or four level where it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we should kind of expect spells of this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>altitude to do this powerful of a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So which one would you add in blue? Hm? Kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tough the Sphinx. If I have to add one,

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<v Speaker 1>I would put constipated Sphinx because it provides, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna put ristic study on here, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>probably shouldn't be on here beyond the fact that it's

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<v Speaker 1>expensive and annoying, I would put constipated Sphinx on because

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<v Speaker 1>it probably gives you as much, if not more, card

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<v Speaker 1>advantage plus a giant flying body. Yeah blocks really good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they I don't think that should actually be on here.

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<v Speaker 1>But if some nobody held a fricking knife to my

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<v Speaker 1>head and said you have to pick a blue card,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the blue card.

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<v Speaker 2>A knife to my head, I don't think that's the saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>The intent.

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<v Speaker 2>The intent, Ah, that's a good one in my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I would maybe say like force of negation because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like fierce guardianship and force of will. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that only is free when it's not your turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I mean an I don't know. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that is irrelevant. How good that card is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a defensive card instead of like it can't

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<v Speaker 2>really be used. It can be, but you have to

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<v Speaker 2>have the mana. It can't be used as an offensive counterspell.

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<v Speaker 2>When I'm trying to win on my turn, I need

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<v Speaker 2>the manna to play it. Yeah right, so maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's not quite as good. I've probably won more games

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<v Speaker 2>and not lost as many games when I cast Packed

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<v Speaker 2>of Negation. Yes, that's a good one too, because that

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<v Speaker 2>literally has a freaking zero on it, right, or or

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<v Speaker 2>it has nothing on it it's zero. Yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like it's you can't pay man to cast that car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, Okay, those are their fun and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>we could probably discuss for a week in detail, like

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<v Speaker 2>the Commander group who put this together probably did like

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<v Speaker 2>every single card.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, let's move on to black.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Ollis Is said Itel Detoots, Imperial Seal, Opposition Agent,

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<v Speaker 2>tur Grid, Vampiric Tutor, and ad nauseum.

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<v Speaker 1>This is another super easy one, and you take Turgot off.

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<v Speaker 1>When was the last time you saw somebody play a

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<v Speaker 1>Turgrit onto the the table and have the game just

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<v Speaker 1>warp all the way around her? What that time you

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<v Speaker 1>even heard of somebody putting a Turgrit in their ninety nine?

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<v Speaker 1>Besides me, have you ever seen a Turgrid deck ever?

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<v Speaker 1>And I only built it because everybody said I shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you also don't have it anymore. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>took it apart because everybody hated playing against it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of socially, it worked itself out, worked itself out,

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<v Speaker 2>like if it wasn't a game changer, it would work

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<v Speaker 2>itself out in the bracket kind of first part of

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<v Speaker 2>this new ruling system, where you're playing Turgrid, you're sacrificing,

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<v Speaker 2>you're making people sack creatures or lands or discard cards,

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<v Speaker 2>and then.

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<v Speaker 1>You freaking get them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're doing all of the things that the bracket

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<v Speaker 2>system tells you not to, unless you're playing at levels

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<v Speaker 2>four or five, in which case she's fine, she's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>or she just gets all the way blown out because

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<v Speaker 2>people actually run removal in those brackets.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Turgrid is a good one. And to answer your

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<v Speaker 2>other question, when have I seen Turgern in A ninety

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<v Speaker 2>nine since what twenty what twenty nineteen when that card

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<v Speaker 2>came out?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe once, maybe, and maybe it was actually just your

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<v Speaker 2>Turgrid that she was in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Command zone has already put it back into my hand

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<v Speaker 1>and I played it from there, and I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>it one step further for anybody who's like, man, Turget

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<v Speaker 1>is so game warpingcase, when was the last time you

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<v Speaker 1>saw somebody go just And I gets so demoralized when

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<v Speaker 1>a target hits the table as opposed to a talks rill.

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<v Speaker 1>Talks rill is a game warping card, and HiT's not

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<v Speaker 1>on here whereas Turgrid is. And I think if Turget

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be on here, and that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's a this is where I say that this is

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<v Speaker 2>Conclusion, there's no denying that Turgrid, like talk shrill, is

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<v Speaker 2>a game warping card. If I sit down and say

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<v Speaker 2>I want to play my third deck because that's my

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<v Speaker 2>deck that's maybe closest to like A one, right, it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably my least powerful deck. And you say, well, my

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<v Speaker 2>Turgrad deck is h doesn't have any game changers. It's

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<v Speaker 2>maybe A two or three because it is powerful, right.

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<v Speaker 1>That would blow me out of the water.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe I don't want that. So, like I can

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<v Speaker 2>get why Turgerid's on the list, Sure should I I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the thing about a game changer being a

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<v Speaker 2>legendary creature, though, is like that counts as one of

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<v Speaker 2>your things and that that means that your tur grid

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<v Speaker 2>deck can't be a one or two a one or two. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not sure. I'm not quite sure how I

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<v Speaker 2>feel about that yet. Yeah, I'm not sure how I

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<v Speaker 2>feel about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm percolating on that one as well. If I could

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<v Speaker 1>add a card to black, it would be a Torrent

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<v Speaker 1>of Haillfire all day, every day, because that is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those And I remember hearing a couple of other

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<v Speaker 1>people have said that cards that just go from nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to I win. And there are very few cards that

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<v Speaker 1>exemplify that more than Torrent of hell Fire for ten, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably gonna win that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tormented Hailfire for ten when everybody's at like, well thirty, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty means my opponent's boards have nothing on them or

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<v Speaker 2>they're dead or well, if they're at thirty, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>dead because they'll just sacrifice all their shit. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then that's not fun for them. That a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these things, and I'm gonna probably use this phrase over

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<v Speaker 2>the next day or so quite a bit, is they

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<v Speaker 2>remove agency from your opponent. They don't allow your opponent

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<v Speaker 2>to play.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of saying the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing they eliminate choices, they eliminate contributions, tormenttal health fire

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<v Speaker 2>can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The only caveator, and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Reason I think it's not on the list is because

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<v Speaker 2>you need well sixty five man, yeah, exactly twelve man

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<v Speaker 2>in your case. Yeah, which you're not just making twelve man.

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<v Speaker 2>You actively have to try to do that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You could be playing Mono black. You could have some

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<v Speaker 2>maybe other game changers that we're going to see, but

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<v Speaker 2>let's move on. This is an easy one.

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<v Speaker 1>Red.

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<v Speaker 2>We got Jessica's will and underwear breach. Which one are

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<v Speaker 2>you taking off?

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica's will? I play it the most because I think

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<v Speaker 1>under underwear breach is certain. Yeah, you know what, this

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<v Speaker 1>is harder than I think it is. When I was

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<v Speaker 1>building my rev deck, this is what I thought in

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<v Speaker 1>my head because I wanted my rev deck to scale

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<v Speaker 1>really well. And when I thought in this hang with

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<v Speaker 1>like the big swing in CDH Dick And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought maybe is because of underworld breach, I

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<v Speaker 1>could use their underworld breach to breach Combo myself. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna breach myself. That's like a huge that is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge game changing play. Whereas a Jessica's will, I've

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<v Speaker 1>certainly played Jessica's wills into borders, Like I guess I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just turn my three manna into five mana and play

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<v Speaker 1>a five drop. I will reveal three cards, play none

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<v Speaker 1>of them and be sad. Yes, I've certainly done that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the Florida ceiling ratio there isn't it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when you nobody plays Underworld Breach to do fair things.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just That's what I was gonna say, is

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at the floor and ceiling of every

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<v Speaker 2>card on this list, which again I'm sure the people

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<v Speaker 2>who made this list did, at least I'm giving them

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<v Speaker 2>the benefit of the doubt of doing because there are

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<v Speaker 2>lots of people who are.

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<v Speaker 1>Smart and Caribout magic.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, okay, not just us, we at least Caribout magic.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jessica's will, I think the floor and the ceiling

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<v Speaker 2>is actually quite a bit narrower than the floor and

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<v Speaker 2>the ceiling for Underworld Breach. The thing about Underworld Breach

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<v Speaker 2>is nobody's building it.

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<v Speaker 1>For the floor. No, No, everybody's.

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<v Speaker 2>Building it saying I'm gonna make the floor equal to

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<v Speaker 2>the ceiling, and then the ceiling is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>shooting a fucking rocketed outer space, right like Underworld Breaches

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<v Speaker 2>is a game changing card.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and Jessica's Will could be, but it requires other

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<v Speaker 1>things to happen. If your deck isn't built to be

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<v Speaker 1>flow you out, not strong, Jessica's will isn't gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Get you there, And the same is true art about

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<v Speaker 2>Underworld Breach. If it's not to blow you out with

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<v Speaker 2>Underworld Breach, Underworld Breach doesn't do anything. So you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna leave both those cards on that line.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had to have at a red one, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is controversial because I do play this in every

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<v Speaker 1>one of my mono red decks, I'd put blood Moon

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Blurred Moon. It goes back to manad denial,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like that's a little bit different because

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<v Speaker 1>I think that people are going to hold things like Armageddon,

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<v Speaker 1>Winter Orb and blood Moon. I feel like, oh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out there that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>look at those as three separate things, whereas I think,

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<v Speaker 1>for the purposes of this list and the bracket system,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all the same thing. Hm. And so I put

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<v Speaker 1>blood Moon on there just because I know people hate

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<v Speaker 1>it and they like to run greedy man of basis

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<v Speaker 1>with no basics in them. So here we are, and

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<v Speaker 1>given that the benchmark of a pre con is two,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of their manna comes into play tafft because

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<v Speaker 1>they refuse to print good lands into pre cons. If

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<v Speaker 1>you play a blood Moon against a pre con, it

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<v Speaker 1>instantly makes your deck better because now not only is

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<v Speaker 1>the land coming into play tapped, it still doesn't give

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<v Speaker 1>them the colors that they want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, and you know what the other thing, too

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<v Speaker 2>is And it says it right in Gavin's article, and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's talking about, oh yeah, you could probably go up

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<v Speaker 2>or down like a level and you could say, oh my,

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<v Speaker 2>my level two deck has one game changer in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking blood Moon. Nube. I guess you don't play magic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, you could do that, Yes, yes you could

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<v Speaker 2>do that. You shouldn't, so blood Moon could be on

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<v Speaker 2>this list. Sure, yeah, Green we got another short one

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<v Speaker 2>Survival of the Fittest vorny Clx Voice of Hunger that was,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Guya's Cradle.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good card. I'd play all of those cards.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, you know what, if I were going to

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<v Speaker 2>remove a card, I would remove born CLEAs because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a repeatable tutor, and it doesn't give you overwhelming

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<v Speaker 2>card advantage or like man advantage on turnfucking one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to cite your reason for Jinga Taxis

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<v Speaker 2>coming off of blue is this is an eight drop

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<v Speaker 2>and very very very rarely have I ever and usually

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<v Speaker 2>this out works, especially in casual magic.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's going to kill that?

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<v Speaker 2>Warn Clex, anybody who kills it, We're going to leave

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<v Speaker 2>alone because your mana stay's tapped.

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<v Speaker 1>For a turn. Yep, We'll give you a turn away

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<v Speaker 1>from us doing anything bad to you, and you make

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<v Speaker 1>the deal amongst your fears. Maybe they get it for

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<v Speaker 1>one turn and then it's dead and it's gone. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I would put on instead? What would

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<v Speaker 1>you put creator? Hoof Behemoth? Creator for the same for

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<v Speaker 1>the same reason that I said PEF's protection and the

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<v Speaker 1>same reason that I said, whatever my black card work

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<v Speaker 1>Town to hailfire, because it goes from like, hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of weenies on the table, I'm blocking,

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<v Speaker 1>I got seven to one ones. I'm playing SAPs. I

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<v Speaker 1>got one hundred SAPs, but they're so small I can't

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<v Speaker 1>get in. Oops, and the game's over. Yeah, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the exact reason I cut Creator Hoof from my Tanna

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<v Speaker 1>deck because I found it was just going too much, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I have twelve SAPs. I guess I'll just win.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what, Crater hoofin in a Green deck

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<v Speaker 2>feels an awful lot, like, oh, he's got eight guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he have eight mana? It's like, oh he's untapping

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<v Speaker 2>with seven man o guys too blue because you got riffed.

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<v Speaker 2>And guess what's on the list ye contic rift wreck right,

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<v Speaker 2>So again you you gotta do some work. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>to have guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So you're playing if you're playing Green and you

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<v Speaker 1>ain't got guys, I don't know if you're actually playing Green.

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<v Speaker 1>I have tried that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you can't play blood no uh Winter orb no

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<v Speaker 2>more though, and they got okay, multicolor.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the weirdest section. These are all Banda's commander essentially. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, these commanders are this level now, period.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're we've reached the point where we reached the

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<v Speaker 2>top this list and we're gonna talk about it tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this list for this reason. We can put

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<v Speaker 2>commanders on here. Okay, the opposite of what I said

419
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<v Speaker 2>for Turgrid. We can put commanders on this list and

420
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<v Speaker 2>it relegates them, by the nature of the rules of

421
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<v Speaker 2>this system.

422
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<v Speaker 1>To not casual tables anymore. Yeah, and I think I

423
00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:23.799
<v Speaker 1>like that. Also.

424
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<v Speaker 2>I don't like playing against Innan Bonder, Prodigy, Rico, Tiger's Shadow, Winona,

425
00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:32.000
<v Speaker 2>and Joiner of Forces Grand Armitder Augustine the Fourth.

426
00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:34.240
<v Speaker 1>We can advise Eric. Yeah, yeah, there we go.

427
00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:37.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't like playing or Urza or Turgered. I don't

428
00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:39.079
<v Speaker 2>like playing against any of those guys, and now they're

429
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<v Speaker 2>relegated to level three, four or five.

430
00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:45.680
<v Speaker 1>There you go. That's I would leave all these guys

431
00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:47.319
<v Speaker 1>on here, and like I talked we talked about earlier,

432
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<v Speaker 1>I would add talks rel this. You would add talks

433
00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and I play talks Real. I have a talks Real deck,

434
00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:54.279
<v Speaker 1>and I would put him on here just to make

435
00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:56.960
<v Speaker 1>sure that, Hey, everybody, my Talks Real deck, isn't it two,

436
00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>because I think it might be Hang on just a second,

437
00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:02.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna look you talk while I find.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was gonna move on to colorless because I

439
00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:07.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know who I would add as far as multicolor

440
00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:07.720
<v Speaker 2>is concerned.

441
00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:10.559
<v Speaker 1>My Talks Real is a two talks. Anybody who's ever

442
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<v Speaker 1>played against my talks real like, it's not a fucking two.

443
00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I I I'm sure that there's multicolor like multicolor commanders that.

444
00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:23.039
<v Speaker 1>I also don't like playing against.

445
00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:27.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if okay, Edric Spy Master of Trust,

446
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:30.519
<v Speaker 2>because there's not one single Edric Spy Master of Trust

447
00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:33.480
<v Speaker 2>that is an extra turns and flying men yep, and

448
00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:36.200
<v Speaker 2>oh no, that would create a redundancy because they already

449
00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:41.880
<v Speaker 2>say no chaining extra turns prick. All right, well, continuing

450
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<v Speaker 2>on onto colorless, Ancient tomb, Chrome, mox, the one Ring, Tabernacle,

451
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:51.920
<v Speaker 2>peddro Veil, Trinisphere, come on, grim monolith, binds eye diamond,

452
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:54.480
<v Speaker 2>what mox diamond a joke?

453
00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:58.519
<v Speaker 1>This sucks this list. This is where I think we

454
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<v Speaker 1>run into the well. I don't own knees, so we

455
00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:06.000
<v Speaker 1>should just ban them. Is you can't have things that

456
00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:08.480
<v Speaker 1>well it gives you two man on turn one and

457
00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:11.400
<v Speaker 1>then not have Solaring on the list, and Solaring shouldn't

458
00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:13.880
<v Speaker 1>be on the list, and neither should I would argue

459
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:19.200
<v Speaker 1>all of these cards except for maybe the Tabernacle, the Tabernacle,

460
00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:22.599
<v Speaker 1>and nobody has I've seen I've run into a table

461
00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Tabernacle of Pendrol Veil once and all the time I've

462
00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.039
<v Speaker 1>been playing Commander, I've seen that card played once. Yeah,

463
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.279
<v Speaker 1>because you're there when it was built. You're right, and

464
00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what happened to it. You know what happened

465
00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:36.440
<v Speaker 1>to it. Strip. I don't want to say somebody who's

466
00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:38.440
<v Speaker 1>playing blood Moon in their deck and save everybody, but

467
00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what happened to it. Rhyme the smudge exactly. So

468
00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. This is where I think that things

469
00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:52.839
<v Speaker 1>get kind of like really really, I like, I'm going

470
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<v Speaker 1>to take the opposite line.

471
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, while I can recognize that there is a portion

472
00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:01.000
<v Speaker 2>of the player base who is in the camp that

473
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:04.079
<v Speaker 2>you're in, sure, I like that they're on this list

474
00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:08.319
<v Speaker 2>because it says, again, there is a rules system that

475
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:13.240
<v Speaker 2>keeps this kind of magic play to a certain group

476
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:18.480
<v Speaker 2>of magic players. Sure, and that I hate to use

477
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the word like it creates a safe space for other

478
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:24.960
<v Speaker 2>magic players, like we're trying to physically harm them, but

479
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:27.480
<v Speaker 2>but that's what it creates. It creates a place that

480
00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:30.079
<v Speaker 2>I can sit down with my deck that's worse than

481
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:34.160
<v Speaker 2>a pre con because I'm an idiot, or actually my

482
00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:38.079
<v Speaker 2>pre con right and it creates a spot in it.

483
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I've got two decks.

484
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:43.680
<v Speaker 2>That are in the three category that play the one ring.

485
00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:46.839
<v Speaker 2>And that's the only thing me too, that puts them

486
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:51.400
<v Speaker 2>in a three. If I say, hmm, this play pattern

487
00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:54.200
<v Speaker 2>or this card or this type of card isn't what

488
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:58.880
<v Speaker 2>the official people want for their game, or it's not

489
00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:01.519
<v Speaker 2>the kind of culture or environment or play patterns that

490
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:02.759
<v Speaker 2>they envisioned.

491
00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:04.599
<v Speaker 1>For that card, they shouldn't have printed it. They shouldn't

492
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:07.319
<v Speaker 1>have printed it. You're right, but they did. Yeah, they did.

493
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Now we have to deal with it.

494
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:11.599
<v Speaker 2>Now there's a rules system to say, hey, we printed this,

495
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Uh oh, we shouldn't have. How about just relegate that

496
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.279
<v Speaker 2>to your more competitive or tuned powerful decks. And what

497
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:21.400
<v Speaker 2>that does is clear up a spot in my shrewfus deck,

498
00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:22.400
<v Speaker 2>because what the fuck is a.

499
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:24.200
<v Speaker 1>One ring doing in there except drawing me card? That

500
00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:26.759
<v Speaker 1>deck is terrible. It needs a one ring to work,

501
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 1>that's what it's doing in there.

502
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.559
<v Speaker 2>And then the other one is for thematic reasons, my

503
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 2>modified pre con Souron deck.

504
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Of course it's in there because it's the one ring

505
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's sourn Yes, the deck's a fucking one and

506
00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:45.160
<v Speaker 1>theme fully on theme. Just say, so, does that make

507
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:46.400
<v Speaker 1>it a three because it's got a one ring?

508
00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Does that make it a one because it's got a

509
00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:49.920
<v Speaker 2>one ring? Or does it make it a do? And

510
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:52.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna put the difference. And then I sit down

511
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.400
<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, this is my modified pre con Souron deck.

512
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.839
<v Speaker 2>I probably made it worse, so it stays at a

513
00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:01.599
<v Speaker 2>two because I'm not a Watzi deck designer only uses

514
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Lord of the Rings cards.

515
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's got a one ring, right, So what do

516
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I do? We'll pack it up, Sucker.

517
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Pack it up, sucker, go play somewhere else, complete the tables.

518
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:13.519
<v Speaker 1>What would you take off? What would gun to your head?

519
00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:16.240
<v Speaker 1>You can only take one off? Oh? Only one one?

520
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:19.039
<v Speaker 2>I take a one ring off?

521
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean I would argue for the one ring

522
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:24.839
<v Speaker 1>to stay only because you know what, fuck that Lion's

523
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Eye diamond, Lion's Eye diamond. I would take off. Yes,

524
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:30.559
<v Speaker 1>that that that because that's a card that you have

525
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to build a specific, specific type of deck to take

526
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>advantage of. I think people look at it, see it

527
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>makes three man out of any color, costs zero, and think,

528
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.279
<v Speaker 1>holy fuck, that's gotta be too good. It costs so

529
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>much money. It has to be so strong.

530
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:45.920
<v Speaker 2>It also says, discard your hand, doesn't it?

531
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just you just carge your hand before you

532
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 1>get to play anything with it. You gotta make, you

533
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>gotta make do.

534
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:55.440
<v Speaker 2>And you can compare Lion's Eye Diamond to Underworld Breach.

535
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:59.000
<v Speaker 2>If it's if you know, you know, if you're using it,

536
00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 2>or because you know then you're gonna you're gonna do the.

537
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Thing, then it's sure it's a three. But like, I

538
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:07.039
<v Speaker 1>don't know, man, like I play.

539
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 2>It in its funny lines, Eye Diamond and Underworld Breach

540
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:10.079
<v Speaker 2>go hand in.

541
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Hand with Yeah, and they do, and you you just

542
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>want to play the other all the time because they

543
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:17.759
<v Speaker 1>fuel each other, right, Like that's the point. But Nicholson, right,

544
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I take Lions I Diamond off

545
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:21.519
<v Speaker 1>just because I think it is a very niche card

546
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and the decks that it's going to be in and

547
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>be good in aren't going to be twos anyway. Otherwise

548
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you're just making something. Hell make three man on just

549
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 1>card my hand and play my commander.

550
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:35.759
<v Speaker 2>It's essentially a jewel lotus at that point, man, I

551
00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:38.519
<v Speaker 2>want Jewel Lotus to be on this list. And you

552
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:40.839
<v Speaker 2>know what that means it means it's unbanned. That's the

553
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:42.759
<v Speaker 2>card I would put onto this list because that would

554
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:43.720
<v Speaker 2>mean it's unbanned.

555
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:47.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's good. Smart, Yeah, that's very good. I'd put

556
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>manacrypt on here then yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go.

557
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:50.680
<v Speaker 2>We got it.

558
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:56.599
<v Speaker 1>We did it. We did it, baby you read yeah,

559
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh we did it. Boys.

560
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.079
<v Speaker 2>So okay, we're gonna talk about the game Changers some

561
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>more tomorrow. We're gonna we're gonna give our expanded thoughts

562
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>on the bracket system with examples from our decks. I

563
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.079
<v Speaker 2>think it's important if we want to be if we

564
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:14.519
<v Speaker 2>want to, you know, cultivate CECO Nation to be a

565
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:17.599
<v Speaker 2>great place to play magic, regardless of whether you're a

566
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:18.720
<v Speaker 2>neck breather.

567
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Or or a beard mouth.

568
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, if you're either of those things, as long

569
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.559
<v Speaker 2>as you're not an asshole. And and we can use

570
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:34.680
<v Speaker 2>this as a tool to kind of kind of gauge assholeness.

571
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk about it tomorrow and John's got a

572
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:41.079
<v Speaker 2>great video out. He beat us to the punch based

573
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 2>on our recording schedules. So check out all the bracket

574
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.079
<v Speaker 2>stuff on the c CEO y DC all week hit

575
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:48.720
<v Speaker 2>our theme song