1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,359 Speaker 1: Joining us now in the studio. So we have Liz 2 00:00:03,439 --> 00:00:06,559 from the Mosaic Art Collective. And Liz, this is your 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,119 third time on the show. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: Second third, I think this is my second time. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Second, Okay, all right, And you've got Hannah and Atlas 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,920 with you, and they are first timers on the show. Yes, 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,399 I did meet Hannah at the at the last event, 8 00:00:20,559 --> 00:00:23,359 right last. Oh that was last weekend. Actually, it all 9 00:00:23,359 --> 00:00:26,559 becomes a blur. And and I'm meeting Atlas for the 10 00:00:26,559 --> 00:00:30,399 first time, and you are the I'm pretty sure you're 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:36,000 the first individual named Atlas I've ever met, so welcome 12 00:00:36,039 --> 00:00:40,840 to the show. So, Hannah, what what is your involvement 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,399 with Mosaic Art Collective. 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 3: I am one of the resident artists. Mosaic is, for 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,079 those that don't know, is a gallery with a gallery 16 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:57,840 hosted inside and four artists studios. So I'm lucky enough 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,679 to be one of the four. And I'm also the 18 00:01:01,719 --> 00:01:04,079 secretary of the Mosaic Are Collective board. 19 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and Atlas, how about you? 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm one of them. 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,519 Speaker 1: Pull up, pull up, mic over it and yeah, you 22 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:12,400 gotta be right on it. 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,359 Speaker 5: I'm the head of pr for a Mosaic I've been 24 00:01:15,359 --> 00:01:17,760 with him since June. 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,879 Speaker 1: And lean lean over a little bit, so you're like, 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,280 you got to talk right good. Yeah, that's that's the 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,400 worst micu okay in the room unfortunately. 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was. I'm now pead of pr for Mosaic. 29 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:29,879 Speaker 1: Okay. 30 00:01:29,879 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 5: I've been with the Mosaic since June and I've just 31 00:01:31,799 --> 00:01:34,040 been trying to be a part of it every way 32 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:34,359 I can. 33 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: It's been an awesome right so far? 34 00:01:35,719 --> 00:01:38,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, excellent. Well, congratulations, very good, very good. 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 36 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,879 Speaker 1: So, Liz, how how's it been for you? I mean, 37 00:01:40,879 --> 00:01:43,760 this has really grown right. Uh. I was commenting to 38 00:01:43,799 --> 00:01:48,000 Hannah that earlier off air that that was quite the turnout. Yeah, 39 00:01:48,519 --> 00:01:49,319 last Saturday. 40 00:01:49,959 --> 00:01:51,439 Speaker 2: Unfortunately I wasn't. 41 00:01:51,159 --> 00:01:53,239 Speaker 1: At those Oh that's right, yeah, yeah. 42 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,519 Speaker 6: But I have heard it was a fabulous turnout. We've 43 00:01:56,519 --> 00:02:00,439 had a couple of slower months. I think in general 44 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:03,319 there was a lot going on in the art world, 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,879 so probably less people were available, and I think luckily 46 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,080 this time around there were a number of people that 47 00:02:12,159 --> 00:02:15,319 were available. But also it's a larger show because it's 48 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,280 I don't remember exactly how many artists we have, it's 49 00:02:19,479 --> 00:02:25,919 over sixty artists in the show, and when that happens, 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,599 you end up with a pretty good turnout. All the 51 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:30,560 pieces that are up on the wall right now are 52 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,599 small work, so they're all more affordable, really great gift 53 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,560 giving sizes and prices, and so we're really lucky. 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,319 Speaker 1: When you do something like where the theme is smaller, 55 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:48,199 I mean, did you put us like a size limit 56 00:02:48,319 --> 00:02:51,159 on that, like they couldn't be yet larger than a 57 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:52,360 certain than certain dimensions. 58 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 6: Yep, so the dimensions are smaller than twelve by twelve inches, okay, 59 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,400 and that's in any dire so because we do have 60 00:03:01,439 --> 00:03:03,199 some sculptural pieces as well. 61 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: When you do something like that, do you find that 62 00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:11,800 you get a different submissions from people who may not 63 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,599 have submitted before. Do you see a lot of new 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,680 names sometimes? 65 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:18,599 Speaker 6: I think in the last several months we've seen an 66 00:03:18,719 --> 00:03:22,639 uptick in new artists, which is really cool because I 67 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,400 think around June I started feeling like maybe we've tapped 68 00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:29,520 into all the artists in the area and this is 69 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:32,080 this is the amount of artists that we have. And 70 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,840 then really in the last three months or so, we've 71 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:40,599 seen a huge a huge number of new artists showing 72 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:46,000 up for open calls. So I don't know that it's 73 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,759 changed necessarily because of the sizes or if it's just 74 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:52,039 that more people are finding out about us. 75 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,199 Speaker 5: And I would argue artists love a good challenge. Yeah, 76 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,599 anything more restrictive in terms of theme or anything like that. 77 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,840 Really as me personally as an artist, like, I find 78 00:04:02,879 --> 00:04:06,560 that very helpful because I can put more into it 79 00:04:06,639 --> 00:04:08,039 knowing exactly what I'm looking for. 80 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:12,479 Speaker 4: So I think the twelve x twelve sort of I 81 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:12,800 don't want. 82 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 5: It's like more of like a challenge to try to 83 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:18,399 make something beautiful out of something within that space. 84 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: And I think people responded really well to that. 85 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 6: And atlicit actually took the challenge in a totally different direction. 86 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,199 And he has a really cool piece in the show 87 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,480 where he painted on a knife. Oh really, So that's 88 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,360 definitely worth checking out if you want to stop into 89 00:04:35,399 --> 00:04:38,199 the gallery or go online and look at our online gallery. 90 00:04:38,399 --> 00:04:41,879 Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, was that difficult that was to Yeah, it 91 00:04:41,959 --> 00:04:45,120 was a totally different canvas to paint on. It's not 92 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,560 something that you would expect to have trouble with, but 93 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,000 it was quite quite difficult. But I had so much 94 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,240 fun doing something within that brand new medium. 95 00:04:54,439 --> 00:05:01,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was obviously inspired by the Mosaic Wonders show. 96 00:05:01,399 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 5: Okay, like this, this seems like the perfect opportunity to 97 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,040 try something new, put something new into it, and yeah, 98 00:05:08,079 --> 00:05:09,720 it was great and it came out with an awesome 99 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:11,920 result and I'm so happy that I was able to 100 00:05:11,959 --> 00:05:12,160 do that. 101 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. Now when when people submit, you know, 102 00:05:17,759 --> 00:05:20,959 you call it a juried a juried what's what's the 103 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,439 right term? 104 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,959 Speaker 3: A juried show. 105 00:05:24,319 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: Juried show, like who chooses? Like, obviously, Liz, you're you're 106 00:05:29,319 --> 00:05:32,680 part of that process, but are you also both Hannah 107 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:36,160 and Atlas are you both involved in that well in 108 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,560 terms of choosing who gets in? 109 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: And it's a collaborative effort. It's usually about three to 110 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,560 four people that are selecting the work, and then we 111 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:50,360 get together as a group several days after the work 112 00:05:50,399 --> 00:05:54,920 comes in and we collaborate once again and make decisions 113 00:05:54,959 --> 00:06:00,120 on how to arrange the show so that it's harmonious 114 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:05,160 and each piece that is situated in a way where 115 00:06:05,319 --> 00:06:10,120 it really shines next to the other work. So it's 116 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,079 a really interesting process not only choosing the work that 117 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:18,879 is selected, but also how do you arrange such a 118 00:06:18,959 --> 00:06:24,199 diverse arrangement of such selected works. 119 00:06:24,399 --> 00:06:30,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, has the number of selections, or I should say, 120 00:06:30,399 --> 00:06:32,639 I'm sorry, the number of submissions? Has that really kind 121 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:35,120 of increased over time, because I would imagine, like the 122 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,800 first show that you did there, I would imagine that 123 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,199 was a significantly last number because it was the first show. 124 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,040 Or maybe not. Maybe there's such a need and demand 125 00:06:43,079 --> 00:06:44,759 for what you're doing. Maybe you had a lot right 126 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:45,879 out of the gate. I don't know. 127 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,959 Speaker 6: I mean the first show was interesting because I had 128 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,439 never done anything like this before, and really it was 129 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,240 just a complete guess to see what would happen. I 130 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,480 did end up reaching out to another one of the 131 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:05,240 residents at Mosaic who has a strong connection with a 132 00:07:05,319 --> 00:07:09,319 number of local artists, and told her that we hadn't 133 00:07:09,399 --> 00:07:13,639 gotten the numbers that I had hoped and I had 134 00:07:13,839 --> 00:07:17,120 to extend the deadline, and I said, can you share 135 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:19,839 this with your audience? And she did and that that 136 00:07:19,879 --> 00:07:22,360 brought in some more people. So we did end up 137 00:07:22,399 --> 00:07:25,319 at the very first show, I think we had forty 138 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:31,920 or so artists. The work was a really interesting range 139 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:38,839 of emerging to professional artists, and I think from month 140 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,879 to month it kind of ebbs and flows, like I 141 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,199 truly get freaked out about a week before the deadline 142 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,199 because most artists wait till the very last minute to 143 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:57,399 submit their work, and I usually, like the week before 144 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,759 will start like if I really noticed that we haven't 145 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,399 had any submissions, I'll start like tapping people and being like, hey, 146 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,079 are you planning on cubmenting your work? And you know, 147 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,079 chances are some of them are, or some of them 148 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,879 are just too busy that month, but yeah, it kind 149 00:08:13,879 --> 00:08:15,279 of it changes. 150 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, now that makes sense, the small Wonders 151 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,319 that's actually running for two months, Is that correct? 152 00:08:22,399 --> 00:08:22,759 Speaker 2: It is? 153 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,639 Speaker 6: Okay, So this we have historically done a small work 154 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,360 show in November and December. Part of that is self 155 00:08:31,399 --> 00:08:36,279 preservation because we're getting into like the busy holiday season 156 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,159 and I at the beginning just couldn't take setting up 157 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:46,120 another show in December. But also I think it offers 158 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,919 more time for people to shop and see the show. 159 00:08:51,399 --> 00:08:57,120 We'll have another opening the second Saturday of December for 160 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,919 Amy who runs the Seesaw Gallery. 161 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,039 Speaker 2: She'll have a the name. 162 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 6: Of her show number of presently I think is what 163 00:09:05,639 --> 00:09:11,559 her show is called. That's another open call, and she'll 164 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,960 have an opening that night as well, and we're hoping 165 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,240 that there'll be another good turnout, and then I think 166 00:09:18,279 --> 00:09:21,559 we're also planning on doing a closing on December twenty second, 167 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,639 so we try to like keep you know, movement in 168 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,879 the gallery, get people in. And as of right now, 169 00:09:29,919 --> 00:09:35,159 we had been doing almost month to month shows, and 170 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,559 I think going forward after November and December, we're planning 171 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:44,559 on doing bi monthly shows instead. We needed a little 172 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,799 more time. I think all of us, just from an 173 00:09:47,879 --> 00:09:50,159 organizational standpoint, needed. 174 00:09:49,799 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: More time to. 175 00:09:52,639 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 6: Rest and then also be able to bring in some 176 00:09:55,519 --> 00:09:58,000 workshops and stuff like that. We'd really like to do 177 00:09:58,039 --> 00:10:02,679 more community outreach, and it's hard when you're either setting 178 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,080 up or taking down a show with. 179 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:05,759 Speaker 2: Like a week or two of the show. 180 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 6: So we're hoping with the extended shows that we'll have 181 00:10:10,879 --> 00:10:12,440 some more time to do that kind of stuff. 182 00:10:12,519 --> 00:10:15,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense, and it also gives artists the 183 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,840 opportunity to bring in more of their friends and family. 184 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,960 A month is a really tight turnaround, so yeah, the. 185 00:10:25,799 --> 00:10:31,919 Speaker 1: Opportunity, Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. I remember Jenny 186 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,320 and I attended an event that you had had about 187 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:38,120 I don't remember the gentleman's name, forgive me, but about 188 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,440 Ai in art. That was really interesting. 189 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:48,039 Speaker 6: Yeah, he that's Carl, So he was fast this it's 190 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,080 interesting because like AI has just exploded now, so but 191 00:10:52,279 --> 00:10:54,679 at the time, it was like this fairly new thing 192 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,320 that was sort of like freaking all the artists out. 193 00:10:59,399 --> 00:11:02,799 And I think because of his background, he comes from 194 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:08,039 a tech background. He calls calls his or called his 195 00:11:08,159 --> 00:11:12,120 job an ethical hacker for I b M. So he 196 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,960 would look for the weak points in the system and 197 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,080 try to try to break it so that he could 198 00:11:17,159 --> 00:11:20,679 learn how to fix it. So he did a ton 199 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,440 of research on AI and brought that workshop to us, 200 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,159 which was super awesome, and we would like to offer 201 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,399 more of that kind of stuff. 202 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: I know. 203 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,799 Speaker 6: We were in talks with Karen Jerzyk, who's an installation artist. 204 00:11:36,799 --> 00:11:40,559 She is not an AI artist at all, and she 205 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,759 gets called that a lot. She's a photographer. 206 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: Why why does she get called an AI artist? 207 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 6: Her artwork is pretty surreal, Okay, it's her artwork is surreal, 208 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,360 so it has a vibe that kind of lends itself 209 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,840 to looking like it's computer generated. 210 00:12:01,039 --> 00:12:02,039 Speaker 1: That's interesting to me. 211 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, but her she does she actually doesn't even use 212 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:12,440 like photoshop all that much. Yeah, which most photographers these days, 213 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,200 I would say at least use a little bit of 214 00:12:15,399 --> 00:12:18,679 touch up sure at points in their process. 215 00:12:21,039 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 216 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,519 Speaker 6: Yeah, but she does not, and she's actually had a 217 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,759 lot of success with what are they called NFTs and stuff. 218 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,360 So we're hoping to get her in and have her 219 00:12:34,399 --> 00:12:36,799 do an artist talk and sort of, yeah, talk a 220 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,039 bit more about that. 221 00:12:38,039 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: That's that's interesting to me. 222 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 5: You know. 223 00:12:39,519 --> 00:12:41,759 Speaker 1: The subject of AI comes up a lot on the show, 224 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,240 and it's interesting, you know, because we talk about people 225 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,840 looking at art and not knowing or other or any 226 00:12:49,919 --> 00:12:52,559 kind of image and not knowing whether it's real or 227 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,559 AI generated, And we worry about people looking at things 228 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,519 and assuming that they're not AI generated when actually they are. 229 00:13:00,519 --> 00:13:03,799 But her artwork, you say, like people accuse her of 230 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:06,440 using AI and she's actually not. That's interesting. So the 231 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,639 inverse can also be a pitfall. Yeah. I wouldn't have 232 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,720 expected that. Wow, that's fascinating. 233 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely somebody to check out. Yeah, yeah, what was 234 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,480 her name again, Karen Jersik. She's right in Manchester too. 235 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:25,279 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, wow, you do you do any kind of 236 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,279 classes there or do you have plans to do in 237 00:13:27,279 --> 00:13:30,399 the future for people who think they might have to 238 00:13:30,519 --> 00:13:32,960 have ability, but want to kind of expand on it. 239 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:36,279 Speaker 6: I don't know that we're looking to do. I mean 240 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,559 maybe maybe. 241 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:38,039 Speaker 2: At some point. 242 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think once we get our heads wrapped around 243 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,279 the scheduling and have a little bit more time to 244 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,879 think about what kinds of programs we're looking for, what 245 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,720 kinds of classes would really benefit the community the most. Yeah, 246 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:57,919 and just seeing what people are interested. 247 00:13:57,399 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: In, right right. 248 00:13:58,879 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 6: We have done some like workshop style classes. Jackie Hansen 249 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,840 did an eras or printmaking workshop a couple times. We 250 00:14:08,919 --> 00:14:14,440 had somebody do a terrarium building workshop. I think there 251 00:14:14,519 --> 00:14:18,559 was actually a word press workshop at some point. 252 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, well on how to build a website. 253 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,399 Speaker 6: I it was interesting because it was it was attended 254 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:34,879 by artists and then who don't use WordPress, and myself 255 00:14:34,919 --> 00:14:38,840 who uses nothing, and my husband who is a web 256 00:14:38,879 --> 00:14:45,360 developer and uses web WordPress all the time. So it 257 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:48,840 you know, WordPress is really hard to use. That's what 258 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,320 what I've come to learn. 259 00:14:51,919 --> 00:14:52,799 Speaker 2: So it's not the. 260 00:14:52,679 --> 00:15:01,279 Speaker 6: Most like artist friendly development helpful yeah can offer really yeah? 261 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. When 262 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,559 did uh when did Mosaic first open? It's been at 263 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:09,600 least what has it been two years. Has it been longer? 264 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,639 Speaker 6: It's been so two and a half fish, I mean yeah, 265 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:18,039 I think we opened in uh September of twenty twenty two, okay, 266 00:15:19,039 --> 00:15:23,919 and after a year of being an LLC, we transitioned 267 00:15:23,919 --> 00:15:27,080 to a nonprofit model okay, and then we've been a 268 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,440 nonprofit for just over a year okay. 269 00:15:30,279 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, what was that always the goal to become 270 00:15:32,759 --> 00:15:34,000 a nonprofit or. 271 00:15:34,159 --> 00:15:41,879 Speaker 6: I think for me, when I was originally dreaming up Mosaic, 272 00:15:42,039 --> 00:15:45,799 I mean I was really young. I I Mosaic was 273 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,519 something I wanted to do when I was like fresh 274 00:15:48,559 --> 00:15:53,039 out of college. I graduated and was just lacking art 275 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,679 community and couldn't figure out where I belonged. 276 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, so in. 277 00:15:58,879 --> 00:16:02,759 Speaker 6: Some ways, I think I didn't really know what it 278 00:16:02,799 --> 00:16:06,840 would totally look like, And once I started doing it, 279 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,519 it just became like like a larger thing than I 280 00:16:10,559 --> 00:16:14,919 could do by myself, and the community aspect of it 281 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,919 was so important that I felt like I was already 282 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,440 reaching out to people and asking their advice or asking 283 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,519 how to do something. So the nonprofit just sort of 284 00:16:27,559 --> 00:16:32,039 like naturally made sense, right. So I don't know that 285 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:37,080 it was like necessarily like the thing I thought would happen, 286 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,120 but it made sense when we went in that direction. 287 00:16:40,799 --> 00:16:44,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, of course. Are you're not from Manchester originally? Correct? 288 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:50,039 Speaker 6: I actually am from Hooks It. I went to Central okay. Yeah, 289 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,120 so I grew up here. 290 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,559 Speaker 1: Oh you did? Okay? Okay? Did you move away at 291 00:16:53,559 --> 00:16:54,440 one point? Move back? 292 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:54,799 Speaker 2: I did? 293 00:16:54,879 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. 294 00:16:56,039 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I lived So I went to art school 295 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,720 down in Baltimore, Maryland, Okay. And then after Baltimore moved 296 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:06,680 back here for a very brief time, and then up 297 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,279 to Vermont. And then I lived in Burlington, Vermont for 298 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,799 fifteenish years. Oh okay, and then moved back during the pandemic. 299 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Yeah, Burlington's got a not a bad little 300 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:20,960 music scene there. 301 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,319 Speaker 2: It's just a fabulous music good. 302 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: There's some good bands up there that kind of you 303 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,559 know that a lot of people around here might not 304 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,160 know about because Burlington it seems like it's so far, 305 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,880 but it's really not. I mean, how far? What is it? 306 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: Two and a half hours? 307 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: Two and a half that's what I was thinking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 308 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,440 there's some cool place. Is higher Ground still there? 309 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah? 310 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a cool venue. 311 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: Yep. 312 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: I haven't been there in a very, very long time. 313 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: We should take a field trip. 314 00:17:45,079 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a cool place. Not in the 315 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,200 winter though, No, we'll do that. 316 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: Well, I love it. 317 00:17:51,079 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. If you are just joining us, we have Liz, 318 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,039 Hannah and Atlas from the Moses Art Collective here with 319 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:07,079 us live in studio on this Saturday morning. Do you 320 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,480 do you work with other studios as well, Like do 321 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,359 you have these relationships where you kind of I don't 322 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,440 know because you did refer to is it Seesaw. 323 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 6: Seesaw Art on Hanover. Yes, So Seesaw is sort of 324 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,960 similar to Hannah. You want to explain it, Like, they 325 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,359 also rent space in the gallery or in the studio, Okay, 326 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,279 and rent rather than use it utilizing it as a studio, 327 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,400 they they use it as a gallery. 328 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 329 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 6: Amy Reagan, who runs Seesaw is also one of the 330 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,920 founders from the Rochester Museum of Fine Art. 331 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,759 Speaker 2: Okay, and she. 332 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,799 Speaker 6: Runs sort of like a boutique style gallery. So it's 333 00:18:50,839 --> 00:18:55,000 usually like two to three artists from the region. 334 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:56,279 Speaker 2: Okay. 335 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, But we also have worked with n h a A. 336 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:05,640 We've worked with Queer Elective, We've worked with the Women's Caucus, 337 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,640 the Women's Caucus for the Arts. This year we kind 338 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:15,240 of took a slower role on partnering, just to see, 339 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,599 like get our feet wet and see what it was 340 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,839 like to be a nonprofit. 341 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: Right. 342 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: But I'd like to do some more partnerships going forward. 343 00:19:23,799 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And speaking of partnerships, many months at the gallery 344 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,759 we choose a cause to support. Oh okay, And this 345 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:41,960 month we are gathering art supplies for the Webster Webster 346 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,240 House okay Webster No, well, okay. 347 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,799 Speaker 6: So we did Webster House last year. Okay, this year 348 00:19:49,839 --> 00:19:53,799 we're hoping to donate to Waypoint, but we don't have 349 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:54,920 we haven't heard that. 350 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,759 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, so that's kind of. 351 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,519 Speaker 3: We're also having a weekly raffle of all sorts of 352 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:12,160 community restaurants, artists and other other prizes and things like 353 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,519 that to benefit. 354 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 6: It's yeah, the Reproductive Freedom Fund of New Hampshire. 355 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: Okay. 356 00:20:20,519 --> 00:20:20,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 357 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,519 Speaker 6: We're just wanting to do whatever we can to help 358 00:20:23,519 --> 00:20:27,400 out our community right now, and I think that's a 359 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,119 good way to do it. 360 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, I think that's I think that's great. 361 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:30,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 362 00:20:32,079 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I seem to remember I think I think maybe 363 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,640 the last time you were on you might have talked 364 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,880 about Webster House and are you are you trying to 365 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,839 do something different each time, like to help a different 366 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,359 organization or yeah, I. 367 00:20:42,319 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: Think I just wanted. 368 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 6: I think we were hoping to like spread the love 369 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,599 around as much as possible. 370 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: It's kind of nice. It's a way where we can say, hey, 371 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,400 we're we're seeing you do some great work and we'd 372 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,319 like to we'd like to benefit you. 373 00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think, you know, as far as like 374 00:21:02,519 --> 00:21:06,920 the donation, like the art donation, the supply donations. For 375 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:10,839 a lot of us growing up, art was incredibly important 376 00:21:10,839 --> 00:21:11,519 in our lives. 377 00:21:12,079 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: We recognize like the need. 378 00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 6: For kids to have access to art supplies, and yeah, 379 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,759 there are a lot of art are a lot of 380 00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:24,599 kids who don't right, and it doesn't seem like. 381 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: The immediate need. 382 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,599 Speaker 6: But I think to express yourself definitely helps make situations 383 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,119 feel less overwhelming. 384 00:21:34,759 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, Well, you know something that we talk 385 00:21:37,759 --> 00:21:41,440 about a lot on the show, and it's, uh, we 386 00:21:41,519 --> 00:21:43,400 talked to a lot of musicians, so it tends to 387 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,880 be more in that modality. But we talk about and 388 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,680 I was talking about it with Dentis actually from the 389 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,799 Gray Curtain during the first hour a little bit too. 390 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,519 U the event that he's doing tonight in Connecticut. We 391 00:21:53,519 --> 00:21:57,759 were talking about you know, taking taking traumatic events, or 392 00:21:57,839 --> 00:22:01,480 taking problems that you have or you know, mental illness 393 00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:04,680 or whatever it may be. And uh, any time that 394 00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:07,200 you can create something from that, you know, take it, 395 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,200 but create something, create art, create whether it's visual art 396 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:13,559 or music or whatever it is, or write a book 397 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,880 or you know that to me, that's the best therapy, 398 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,279 right when you can take something negative and do something 399 00:22:20,319 --> 00:22:26,359 creative and productive with it. And and I assume now 400 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,359 I have no you know, I'm I'm a musician, but 401 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,079 I have no ability whatsoever for visual art. I can't 402 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,440 paint or anything like that. So so I'm kind of 403 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,640 a no trust me it is. But but I assume 404 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,920 a lot of visual artists, you know, they they put 405 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,920 that into their u into their their paintings. I would imagine, 406 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,920 you know, as an expression of of that that pain 407 00:22:49,079 --> 00:22:53,480 and that trauma. And stand up comedians are really kind 408 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,960 of famous for that. Like any stand up comedian you 409 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,680 talk to, it's like they they've had like major trauma 410 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,559 and the way that they deal with it is learning 411 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:05,319 how to make people laugh, whether whether they're actually making 412 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,480 jokes based on what they've been through or not. But 413 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:10,359 that's like that's their therapy. You know. Stand up comedians 414 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,960 are almost always you know, like just messed up people 415 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,359 in some way, you know what I mean? But no, 416 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,319 but I think that's I think that's so important. And 417 00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:24,960 you know you mentioned too developing that in kids. Is 418 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,279 that is that something that is lacking in our schools? 419 00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:32,480 Do you think? I mean? I remember, you know, I 420 00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:35,000 went to a private school from grade two to grade 421 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:37,759 eight and we had art class and that was that 422 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,119 was where I learned that Actually, no, I have no 423 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,079 visual visual ability art wise, I have no art artistic 424 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,599 ability in that sense. But do you think that's something 425 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,960 that's lacking? Is that something that where parents need to 426 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,000 really kind of encourage that and foster that because I 427 00:23:55,079 --> 00:23:57,279 don't know. I don't know if our schools are doing 428 00:23:57,279 --> 00:23:58,039 that at all or not. 429 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,519 Speaker 3: I'm a school teacher and art teacher, so you okay, great, 430 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:07,519 and I know that, or at least I believe that 431 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:12,200 New Hampshire public schools are required to offer art and 432 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,799 music okay kindergarten through high school. 433 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: Oh good, Okay, I didn't know that. So they're required 434 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,480 a lot to do that. Yeah, oh that's excellent. Okay, 435 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:20,799 I didn't. 436 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:27,319 Speaker 3: However, with different towns receiving different funding, some programs don't 437 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,400 have don't have as much to offer as other towns. 438 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, because uh, I know that. You know, these school 439 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:41,359 budgets tend to be tight, and it seems like when 440 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,119 you hear about budget cuts in public school it's usually 441 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:50,079 you know, the sports are protected and everything else kind 442 00:24:50,079 --> 00:24:52,920 of is on that second tier where they think, oh, 443 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,240 maybe we can get rid of this, we can get 444 00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:56,599 rid of that. But but you so, you're you work 445 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,279 in public schools and you're an art teacher, so your 446 00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:00,759 a proof of concept that this is this is still 447 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:04,200 happening in New Hampshire where we have the arts being so. 448 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,039 Speaker 4: Very much so. 449 00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 3: New Hampshire has one of the strongest art programs i'd 450 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,160 say in the country, Elastic Art Awards, which is the 451 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,359 largest and most prestigious high school art show in New 452 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,720 Hampshire number two in terms of the size and scale 453 00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:28,240 of net, right behind New Jersey. And it's all volunteers. 454 00:25:28,319 --> 00:25:31,559 Speaker 1: Great. So that's great. Yeah, it makes me proud to 455 00:25:31,559 --> 00:25:34,119 be a New Hampshire rite. Oh that's really good. I 456 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,160 had no idea. 457 00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 6: I mean, I think in general from I have three 458 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,400 kids in the school system, I think in general they 459 00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:47,480 have had a phenomenal arts education. But also I mean, 460 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,119 art school is what you put into it, and if 461 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,920 the parents aren't willing to foster a love of art 462 00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:02,839 or culture, they're only going to get what they get 463 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:10,039 at school. So I feel like, you know, especially looking 464 00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:12,039 at my kids now, go to the schools that I 465 00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:16,200 went to as a kid, and one of the teachers 466 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:22,319 is my one of my teachers, so she's been there forever, 467 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:29,480 and I think, like in terms of I think, you know, 468 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,799 she's doing a good job. I think the younger teachers 469 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:35,119 that are coming through, you. 470 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,319 Speaker 2: Not that young, even teaching a long. 471 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,559 Speaker 6: Time, but I like Hannah does a great job. But 472 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:43,799 I think, you know, the younger teachers that are coming 473 00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:46,599 through have a different concept of how to teach art, 474 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,680 and I think that that can be kind of interesting 475 00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:54,839 to watch. I think they are, uh not too long 476 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,440 ago when I was teaching, there was this method called 477 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,200 teaching for Artistic Behavior, which is more of a choice 478 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,200 based learning, and I think that. 479 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,839 Speaker 1: Not but what does that mean? Choice based learning? 480 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 6: So it's not like here's a picture of a snowman, 481 00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:16,880 and this is how you make this picture of a snowman. 482 00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:22,559 It's more like, here are the materials that you might need. 483 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,720 This is what I did do how you do it? 484 00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:31,920 That everyone sees differently and everyone's going to create a 485 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,680 little bit differently and intuitively. 486 00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:34,839 Speaker 1: That makes more sense to me. 487 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,039 Speaker 2: It does, and it. 488 00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:43,079 Speaker 6: I feel like it offers students a chance to delve 489 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,119 into the arts where they are most interested, because some 490 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:51,359 kids aren't really interested in getting their hands dirty, right, 491 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,680 but they are really interested in puzzles and building and 492 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:59,279 that kind of thing. And so I think, you know, 493 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:01,920 offering as much as we can do our kids is 494 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,640 really what it's all about. And I think in New 495 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,319 Hampshire they are doing a pretty bang up job. 496 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, No, sounds like it sounds like it. Yeah. 497 00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:14,960 Do you do you have do you have students submit like? 498 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,440 Did you have like high school students and younger submitting 499 00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:19,359 to we do? 500 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 3: One of my favorite submissions for this last show is 501 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:31,319 was mother and son. Her son builds these lego worlds, okay, 502 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,640 and she photographs them. And so she's new to the 503 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,079 area and found out about this call and submitted one 504 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:44,599 of the photographs of her son's lego build and was 505 00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:48,680 just so excited to bring him to the gallery and 506 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,119 share that with him and you know, to be embraced. 507 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,000 So that was really really cool. 508 00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:55,799 Speaker 1: That's very cool. 509 00:28:56,519 --> 00:29:00,519 Speaker 3: And we also at Mosaic we have an art intern 510 00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:04,799 who comes in and he submits quite a few pieces 511 00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:06,279 to the different shows as well. 512 00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Okay. 513 00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:11,079 Speaker 3: In addition, last year there was a show to Manchester 514 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:16,519 Would Love, which featured works from all of the Manchester 515 00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:20,440 Public High schools. So it was an opening dedicated just 516 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,079 to the students and their teachers and that was really 517 00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:24,680 really cool. 518 00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh wow, oh very good, very good. Are there more? 519 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,720 Because I feel like you knows as you're as you're 520 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,440 talking about these different these different places that are involved 521 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,839 in art, are are there more? Is there more of 522 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,759 an art scene than people realize? I guess is what 523 00:29:43,799 --> 00:29:45,640 I'm asking because I feel like you know, as you're 524 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,119 mentioning you know different like you mentioned Seesaw and these 525 00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:52,519 other places like them, like I wonder if and I 526 00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:55,079 guess Atlas this is part of where you come in, right, 527 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,200 making sure that people know that there is all this, 528 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,720 you know, like because I didn't even realize sitting here, 529 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:02,200 you know, I'm asking you about you know, do they 530 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,000 even teach art in schools anymore. I had no idea 531 00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,880 that New Hampshire is doing such a great job with that. 532 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,960 Is there more of an art scene than people know about? 533 00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely. 534 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,559 Speaker 5: I'd say that like in the past two years, it's 535 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:21,519 really blossomed quite a bit and just receiving the inter 536 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,519 network of knowing about the art has gotten a lot 537 00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:28,599 more prominent, I would say as somebody who's fairly new 538 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,640 to the whole art scene in Manchester. Yeah, definitely feels 539 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,759 like it's blossomed in the past two years. 540 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah absolutely. Oh that's great. 541 00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:39,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, awesome to see the festivals that are out there, 542 00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:42,920 all the events that are going on, and Mosaic being 543 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,359 part of that. 544 00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:44,839 Speaker 4: Yeah absolutely, Yeah. 545 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's that's great. That's great. That's really good 546 00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:47,440 to hear. 547 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,839 Speaker 6: Ultimately, I think the arts scene has been here all along. 548 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,839 I think that it's just sort of more out in 549 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:56,519 the open now. 550 00:30:56,599 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 4: M I would agree, Yeah. 551 00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:02,119 Speaker 3: It's it's more a lot. I feel with the closing 552 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,279 of traditional galleries, there's more room for alternative spaces and 553 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,279 people are getting really creative and open minded. Places that 554 00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:15,960 come to mind are like Pillar Art Project, where they 555 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,720 have a small gallery front up and conquered with a 556 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,960 ghost kitchen in back and Outer Space Gallery, which is 557 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,359 hosted on the second floor of a Victorian office building. 558 00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 559 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: So I mean there's these these pockets that are opening 560 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,559 up and people are getting much more creative and it's 561 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,799 less about profit and more about community and getting the 562 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:40,799 art work out there. 563 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that makes sense. Why have you reference traditional 564 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,720 art studio or art galleries rather? I want to make 565 00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:52,200 sure he's the right term closing? Why is that? 566 00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 6: What? 567 00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:54,759 Speaker 1: Why is this? It sounds like there's been a shift 568 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,359 in that sense. 569 00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, there has been a shift. Some of the shift 570 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,119 is a lot of art has gone online, rents have 571 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:09,440 gone up. It is difficult to sustain a gallery model 572 00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:13,640 where you know you're relying on foot traffic and you 573 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,880 know whether or not your audience is going to be 574 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,759 receptive to the work, whether or not they have the 575 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,839 means to purchase the work. So so yeah, a lot 576 00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:27,960 of places, especially when covid hit had to close their doors. 577 00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:31,279 Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, that makes sense. So it sounds like so 578 00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:33,880 the traditional gallery model is more just you have it's 579 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,640 almost you know, like a like a retail store in 580 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,680 a sense. Right, you've got art just hanging and people 581 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,960 walk in. You hope somebody walks in and buys something. 582 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,839 So it sounds like there's been a need, especially after 583 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,359 the pandemic, to be more creative with how you do things, 584 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,319 and like you're you know, you're very creative with how 585 00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:51,079 you're doing things at Mosaic, and you know you've got 586 00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:54,160 all these things going on, so so that makes sense. 587 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 5: They like in the wake of tragedy, like in terms 588 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,079 of the COVID pandemic, a lot of people who are 589 00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:02,440 around community organization tend to be like, Okay, this is 590 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,440 the time to dig it and roll up our sleeves. Yeah, 591 00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:06,319 this is what we need to do for the people 592 00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:07,400 in our community. 593 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: Because they really really need it. 594 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would say that it's definitely evident in 595 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:18,400 the wake of a pandemic that really rocked everybody, especially 596 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:25,240 people in places of need, seeing that come from that, right, 597 00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:30,200 it was so apparent, and it's very lifting, and it's 598 00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:33,359 very enlightening. It's a wonderful. It's wonderful to be a 599 00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:35,920 part of it. Yeah, sure, absolutely, Yeah. 600 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,039 Speaker 1: Well, something I always say too about the pandemic is 601 00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:43,119 as awful as it was for so many reasons. We 602 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,960 also have to try to find those silver linings where 603 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,920 we can, you know, speaking of dealing with trauma, right. 604 00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:50,400 And something that this also comes up a lot on 605 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,200 the show is that it kind of forced people to 606 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,079 be more creative in ways that maybe they hadn't considered before. 607 00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:56,960 You know, you see it a lot with me. You know, 608 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,799 like during you know, when everybody was staying home for 609 00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,400 sample with music, you saw a lot of these bands, 610 00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:05,799 you know, doing live performances where they're all you know, 611 00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:08,440 they're all connected on zoom and they're they're doing these 612 00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:13,079 live performances online things like that. But uh, you know, 613 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:15,639 but it affected everyone and obviously you know, it affected 614 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,920 visual art and I think it it sounds like it 615 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,840 it did kind of force people to to be more 616 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,280 creative with that as well. And and and how they 617 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,960 how they show the art to the world, and uh 618 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,239 and all of that. What's what's kind of the what's 619 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,679 kind of the future trajectory for for Mosaic? I mean, 620 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,559 you talked about some of it, but is there anything 621 00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:39,719 you have planned that we didn't mention that we should 622 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,360 know about her? 623 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 6: We do have a new show going up in January. 624 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,519 It will be one of our two months another two 625 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:50,599 month shows and I can't recall what the name of 626 00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:51,039 it is. 627 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 628 00:34:53,320 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, but the show itself is op art, so optical 629 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,960 illusions and black light art. Oh cool, sort of like 630 00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:08,320 I think, kind of like Creatures of the Night sort 631 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,000 of a thing we figure with the darkness happening at 632 00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:15,960 like four o'clock, we're going to take advantage of the 633 00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:20,079 darkness outside and bring it inside and let the gallery 634 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,199 the artwork kind of illuminate the space. 635 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. Yeah, yeah, I like that concept. 636 00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 637 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: Well, I talk about taking something negative and creating something 638 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,119 that I hate it when it's dark at four in 639 00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:34,639 the afternoon. Oh, I dread it. I dread it. Does 640 00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:35,639 anyone like it? Really? 641 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:36,199 Speaker 2: I don't think. 642 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,039 Speaker 1: I don't think even people. I don't think even people 643 00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,119 because some people are weird and they actually enjoy winter. 644 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,000 No offense if any of you are like that personally, 645 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,880 I think enjoying winter is very strange. But uh, but 646 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,599 I've never heard anyone say yeah, I like it when 647 00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:49,239 it's dark at four in the afternoon. That I've never heard. No, 648 00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:50,199 it's yeah. 649 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,079 Speaker 4: I feel like every single day it's like, is it 650 00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:52,960 really dark this? 651 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, you don't really get used to it. It's 652 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,480 you're right, yeah, like every every day it's like, oh 653 00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:01,719 it's it's dark again at four in the afternoon. Yeah, 654 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,119 it's not great. It's not great. Well, listen, thank you 655 00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:09,360 all for coming in. This has been wonderful. And what 656 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,480 should people know about, you know, you should probably mention 657 00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:15,000 the website and anything else people should know about what's 658 00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:17,360 happening at Mosaic right now and of course how they 659 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,239 can submit for a future. 660 00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 6: Oh so visit our website that usually has up to 661 00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:27,679 date information Mosaic Arcollective dot com. We're also on Instagram 662 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,239 under Mosaic Art Collective and any of the open calls 663 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,679 are always listed on our website and on Instagram. And 664 00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:39,079 then we also have a mailing list that you can 665 00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:42,320 sign up for on our website and that will also 666 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,519 send out the calls for art. 667 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,199 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right. 668 00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:49,679 Speaker 1: Perfect, perfect, and congratulations again. On last weekend it looked 669 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,679 like a really good I know you weren't able to 670 00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:53,599 be there list, but it looked but it looked like 671 00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:56,360 it was very successful. And you know, Jenny is so 672 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,239 proud to have you know, multiple pieces hanging there, and 673 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,280 it's just you know, she hasn't I don't think she'll 674 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,199 mind me saying this. She hasn't been an artist for 675 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,079 that long in the grand scheme of things. I mean, 676 00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:09,480 it's been maybe five years, yeah, since she first picked 677 00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:10,960 up a brush and said I think I want to 678 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,239 try this. And I'm just in, like I said, as 679 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,360 someone who doesn't have that ability, I'm just I'm just 680 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,679 amazed at how much she creates and how amazing it is. 681 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,760 And you know, I'm just I'm just in awe. You know, 682 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,440 she's got she's got her artwork hanging at home of 683 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,079 course too, and so I see it every day. But 684 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,280 I'm just you know, every new piece she creates, it's 685 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,599 like wow, Like how to even do that? You know, 686 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,559 It's just amazing to me. And and to see how 687 00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:36,719 far that she's come with it, you know. 688 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. 689 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 6: And a lot of the artists that Mosaic are I mean, well, 690 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,400 i'd say some are a. 691 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 3: Lot of artists that we are the first venue where 692 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,639 they show. And you know, I remember the first show 693 00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:54,440 that I was in and what an exciting event it 694 00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:56,679 was and how cool it was to be up on 695 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,159 the wall with all these other artists. And at the 696 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:04,679 same time, we have artists that show nationally, so it's 697 00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:09,679 a really really great range of different artists, art styles 698 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,079 and everyone is welcome. 699 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,519 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, oh that's fantastic. All right, well, Liz Hannah Atlas, 700 00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:19,320 thank you all so much. Thank you, and we'll do 701 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,400 this again soon, I'm sure.