Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice,
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Dods Gee Ram, It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome, and thank you forgetting your PoTA and
thanks for telling a friend. Somebody sent me a text
earlier today.
Speaker 3: Someone sent me a text earlier today, say text that said, um,
just oh wait, see you tonight. I'm going to bitch
at you. So it's a regular Monday, right, and I
wrote for what just wait? If I tell you it
won't be as fun. It won't be I can't imagine
what'd you want to pitch me about? All right?
Speaker 4: You should know I have an idea. You have an idea, okay,
but what do you think the idea is?
Speaker 3: Why? I don't know. I don't want to say. You
just tell me.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well you call me at six fifty nine that
Jimmy Fallon was at McConnery's right.
Speaker 3: I don't even like that you're saying that I did that.
But yes, oh I'm sorry, No, no, I'm sorry, it's okay. Well,
you just throw me you threw me a bone. No,
I did throw your bone. I tried to. This was cool,
don't get me wrong. Even though he was only there
atill seven thirty. Oh is that all he was there?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was there five thirty, seven thirty. He had
a whole freaking dad like, a whole freaking tour of him.
He stopped at different places.
Speaker 3: But here's that. That's not my problem.
Speaker 5: My problem is is that I asked if you are
going and you said no, okay.
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to the west side.
Speaker 5: Well, why didn't you tell me? All of a sudden,
I'm going through. I worked eleven thirty. I'm sitting there
and all of a sudden, I see your stupid fucking
face and I see Jimmy Fallon and I would have
come down because it was eleven thirty.
Speaker 3: I would have made it. He was there to close right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you So, as far as I'm concerned,
you fail.
Speaker 3: I suck hay On a second. Here's what I know
is and I don't even like to say this, and
I don't want anybody to get upset with me. I
got worried he was in and where he was right
or where he was heading. Yes, so at five point thirty,
he was not at West Side. Okay, I'm just telling you, yeah,
telling you I was reported, right, But I'm just saying
I don't think that's true. So I got a hey,
we're heading there, and I said, I'm making chicken chili
for my son right now. I'm not leaving. Okay, we'll
let you know when we head back. Now, head back
could be we're going to hang out at x y
Z and it's you know, nobody, not not many people,
or or it'll be you know, he does what Jimmy does.
So I wasn't sure what that meant. Just so but
you and I wasn't sure I was gonna go.
Speaker 5: You could, but when you got there, all of a sudden,
you can throw me a text, Hey soldier, I know
you get out at eleven thirty.
Speaker 3: I didn't know when you got it.
Speaker 5: I told you when we were talking basically basically, you
failed miserably.
Speaker 3: You failed miserably, how because you should have. I thought
I was doing a solid telling you, like a solid
I work Saturday nights and you know it, yes, but
I just wanted to It would have been solid if
you said, hey, come on down to the come down
down to the East Side, come down down here, and
I would have come down there, and I would have
been happy because I would have been able to hang
in with your group.
Speaker 5: Basically, what you is you don't.
Speaker 3: Want me, and with your group you don't want me,
and you don't think I'm good.
Speaker 5: Enough to hang out with you, and uh, you know
all the schmos from the East.
Speaker 3: Side, that's not true at all. I just I yeah,
I I I. Well, see the thing is like, it's
not it's somebody's really this guy is such a good friend.
And that's why one of the stories I posted was
Jimmy talking about how he met Damien. Damien's been on
the podcast and we can go back through it. I'm
not remembering one episode at the top of my head,
but Damien has talked about exactly that story, how they
met and how they became friends. They stayed in contact,
you know, and and remained and this is before he
this is before he this was SNLL and and Damien
didn't know what SNL was. He was he was just
he was from Ireland and had no idea and and
was here basically like on a green card, so it
didn't or a visa or whatever.
Speaker 5: But its been nice for Jimmy to meet the guy
that didn't really know who he was. Yeah, and uh,
I think like there was a time where Jimmy told
this story and Damien's versions a little different. He did
say like they weren't cell phones, but people were starting
to take pictures and Damien, according to Damien's story, freaked
out and said said to Jimmy, Jimmy, he goes, I'm afraid,
like my visa is up or something here taking pictures
and he's like, nobody.
Speaker 3: He goes, it's probably me. He goes, are you famous?
And he goes, yeah. He goes for what, like he
didn't really know, and he like and he said, I'm
on a comedy show Saturday Night Live, and he's like,
are you funny? And even they Jimmy even said when
he was here, yes, and he would and he just
talked about So here's the thing, like Damien, and I
know that this is kind of hard for some people
maybe to believe Damien has been unbelievably an unbelievable friend
to me and many other people for many years, Like
you know that like help me out when I was separated,
would come and get me, always inviting me down to
the cottage. Even when I was married, you know, take
we would do things together, and like there was a
lot of stuff. He and I were probably a little
closer than maybe we are now. Everything shifts and changes
a little bit, our time and things. But so I
would never want to overstep with his friendship with Jimmy
because he's very protective Jimmy. But no, no, but but
you're right. The point of Jimmy Cumming is to bring
attention to the box.
Speaker 5: Right, and it's different. I think I'm different because I'm
I'm with you know, if I go in and hang
out with you, I don't think that that would be
a big deal.
Speaker 3: No, it wouldn't. But so then it goes back, my bitch,
I just kidding. So I thought because he was going
to be out close to where you are, I thought
I just said, hey, man, he's there if you want
to go over, And I knew by that point, And
you're right, I didn't send. I did not jump on
this right away. I waited a beat because I figured
let word get out. So then if you're hearing it, hey,
did Bill tell you go? No?
Speaker 5: I saw it on Facebook. I saw it on Facebook.
Speaker 6: You know what.
Speaker 3: I mean and and so that that was.
Speaker 5: I saw it on Facebook and then I text you
that's what happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then but but I know I called you
when said he the thing is is day. I would
have actually come out though, well I did. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I didn't know what I should have. I should have texted.
I should have made a point of.
Speaker 3: That if he goes to if he goes to the east.
Speaker 5: Side, I go out, I'll come out. Well we're gonna
meet the fuck Well.
Speaker 3: Well let's let's let's let's talk about this and and
fame for a second, because, uh, people lose their ever
loving minds around celebrity. They I've never seen it, and
I've seen it several times when Jimmy's in town. Yeah,
several times, grown adults acting feral for selfie. I mean,
that's the only way to describe it. I'll give you
one story. Last time Jimmy was here. I think, like
I don't, I don't. Sometimes there's a car service, sometimes
there's not. And I think they tried. So they were
looking for a bigger car, and a really good friend
of mine had the car, had a car that they
and said you can use it. So they were going
up to Iron Smoke in in Fairport. Yeah, and uh,
the guy looks at me, and you know it was
and Jimmy sometimes again, you want to talk about friendship.
He has a handful of really good buddies.
Speaker 5: From high school. Yes, actually he's still friends. I know
a girl that went to high school with them.
Speaker 3: Okay, So he has these people and and some of
those guys, like some of those guys came up for
the grand opening of the of the West Side without
Jimmy at all. So yeah, and they become friends with Damien.
Does he know you by name? I don't know. I
don't think so. I think it was because he recognized
me and said, you're one of Damien's boys. Let me
have your phone. That was it. And then when I
was up front, were sang, hey, Jude together for a second,
I see you fucking miss everything? All right, whatever doesn't matter.
So what I'm saying is people get feral. So I
had come in to the bar and I brought my son,
who was reluctant to be there but wanted to see Jimmy.
So I go up to the bar and there's nothing,
you know, it's sort of filling in. It's filling in words,
getting out right. People know. So I have my card
out and I say, may I have a Guinness right too?
Event and they go yeah, And some bartenders will just
keep track and then you get it at the end
of the night, so don't I don't know. I'm still
holding my card. All of a sudden, Jimmy comes behind
the bar. You wouldn't believe the behavior. You wouldn't believe it.
I'm standing there and this girl, who I think I'm
gonna guess is underage, I don't know, and she says
to me, I'm small. Can I just get right up there?
And I said, I'm just waiting for a beer. I'll
be out of her way. And they were pouring it right,
and she's like, well, I mean. And then Jimmy gets
back there and he's hugging the people behind the bar
and high five of them, and you know, he's just
polite to everybody's just agreed. He's just polite to exactly
how he is on the show. And she so this
person's like, well, I mean, I'm dying a thirst too,
I'm going to get a water and she wedges her
way in and I'm like, oh my god. And I
couldn't believe all of a sudden, it's like you're pushed
up against the bar. So now I'm sort of trapped.
And my point wasn't to be there for Jimmy. I
was standing there to get a beer. So now the
beer's delayed, right, and I think the one they were
porn for me he took it, started to drink because
I had asked forget it and I saw the port it.
Did you ever get your guinnis? I did so? Uh?
And then that Jimmy's coming around and he kind of
made eye contact, and I go, I just point to
this girl right who had wedged way in right, He
couldn't have been nicer to her. He gives her a hug,
He does all this, he she leans over the bar.
They take a selfie. He took my phone out and
did a selfie, a video and a selfie for with
me but and my son. And then but while I'm
standing there, a woman about my age trying to get
her daughter who's like in her twenties. And I was
amazed at the number of women that were there seeing
another another fail and he and she like all of
a sudden goes, yeah, get in there, get in there,
she saying to her daughter, and I was like, mom,
I'll be I'll be fine, and the mother goes, no,
get in there, and she puts her hand on my
ribs and push and I don't move. And I turn
around and go, did you just push me? And she's like, no,
I didn't push you. I go, the fuck you didn't.
I go, I'm getting a beer. I'll be out of
your way in a second. I was like, oh my god,
grown adults turn feral. It's the most I don't know.
Speaker 5: But he is the he is one of the I
mean he's the Tonight I mean Johnny Carson was walking
around back in the sixties, that would be huge.
Speaker 3: He is the Tonight Show. But I mean, look, he's
just a guy with better lighting. He's funny, and he's
super talented, and he couldn't have been more gracious to everybody,
like giving out hugs to people and all this stuff
and just could not have been more gracious. But my
point is just wait, I literally I felt like now
I'm trapped in fanland. That I didn't mean to be.
I literally didn't. It was just the timing. I asked
for the beer, he walks out, what am I gonna
do so now I'm stuck there but to see people.
And even my son said to me, this is sad
the way people act. And then he goes, black people
don't act this way. It's actually right.
Speaker 5: I probably not, but what I said when I said today,
when I mentioned Jimmy Faullan today, no one k who
the fuck he was.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, in grade school and the people I work with,
even the people who work with don't know who he is. Interesting,
that's interesting, Oh they don't you know? It's yeah. I
don't say anything because I don't want to know what tonight. Well,
here's why I don't say anything. I don't say anything
because I don't want a million Hey man, you never
called me like like just now, oh yeah, but that's
okay because I've said, well.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing, there's a sentimental thing of why I would.
Speaker 3: Like to meet Jimmy Fallon. Okay.
Speaker 5: When my mother was alive, we what we watched his
first episode all the way. We never missed an episode
till she died of.
Speaker 3: The Tonight show.
Speaker 5: When show, we never missed an episode. We actually have
the do you watch did you watch it?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 3: Do you remember the Dancing Bear? I actually thought that
was Conan. No, that was him. I actually have the bear.
Speaker 5: I actually had the bear that I bought her. It's
the bear and you squeeze it and plays that that saw,
So that's where the sentimental value is. And I actually
I saw Almost Famous and knew that was him and
Almost Famous. Yeah, I mean that was this first that
I think that might have been the beginning of starting
Night Live. Yeah, and I saw Fever Pitch. Who saw
fucking fever Pitch? No one saw Fever Pitch except for
except for me. I think that was a good movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I also saw it wasn't he in an action
flick with Queen Latifa two? No, that was Chris catad
I think I could be wrong. I don't know. I
thought Jimmy did something where he was like a taxi driver.
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't like, I wouldn't like be like all
crazy want to and I don't my mother love this guy.
She just thought that he was a genius on how
he could play and sing, you know, and how all
these great people would come out of the show that
were his friends. Yeah, and if they weren't, they became
his friends. It was like you're watching an inside you
got inside of what of Jimmy Fallon hanging out with
his friends.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what That's what the Night Show is. But yeah,
that's a great I mean.
Speaker 5: Everybody wants to Everybody wants to go on that show.
I mean Taylor's swift, you know, they're good friends. I
mean it's like, I mean, I don't know. I guess
that with death's only reason my eye. No, I mean
I kind of just want to shake his in. That
makes total sense.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to make it sound like everybody
was acting this way, because yeah, that's not fair because
Jimmy did walk out into the crowd while singing. He
did give some people hugs. H the girl who did
push her away next to me, he couldn't have been
nicer to.
Speaker 5: He just looked like the videos I saw, I was like, man,
that's really you know, that's really him. He's the same
person that's on the Tonight show that Yeah, he's actually
just that's really heavy.
Speaker 3: But what I was starting to tell you the last
time he was in town. So they borrow my a
friend of mine's car, take him down to Iron Smoke,
and I say to my buddy, I go listen, we'll
walk down there, right, and then we figure we'll just
get in going to front, not like you know, and uh,
there's a So we get up there and the doors
are locked. But I'm standing back because there's a guy
who is having The only thing I can say is
it was a word about my mother used to don't
have a conniption. He was losing his mind. He's screaming
and pounding on the glass door. I know Jimmy, he
knows me, he knows me by name. I gotta get
in there, blah blah. Now I'm pretty sure word got out,
and they may have locked the doors because why would
you turn away business right, because they were at capacity,
and I think they were concerned that when Jimmy's around,
could somebody come and go, you guys are capacity, we're
finding you, you know what I mean. So I don't know.
So then my buddy turns to me and goes and
he was pretty drunk. He goes, pull some Bill Moran
shit and get us in there, and goes the fuck
I am, I'm out of here, and we start walking away,
and then all of a sudden they all come out
the back door, and uh, they slowed down and kind
of say to us, Hey, tell us where they're going.
And so we go back. But now mut Connery's is
locked down, and we went in and went upstairs and
they were You could have went in the back of
iron smoking your friends with time. No, no, no, I know,
but I'm not gonna know. Just I don't. The thing is,
it's not Jimmy's not my friend. I certainly like him,
but it's not my buddy. He's here for Damien and
they and the love he has. I'll tell you what.
There was a time Damien was going through a tough
time and uh, Jimmy came to uh the lake the
lake house just flew in into like Elmyra or something.
I don't even know, and openI end maybe opinion, and
then drove down and Damien had called me and said
can he come down? And I said, I can't get
there till tomorrow. And Jimmy was already gone. He was
in there. Yeah. But he's that kind of a friend that,
you know what I mean. And this is a guy
who's got a lot of demands on him he does
and a lot of demands on his time. So I
just to have a friend like that, And that's something
that I always think about Jimmy. But god, it's just
so weird. I mean, we confuse I swear, we confuse
recognition with meaning. Like, you know, he's funny, he's talented,
he's affable, he's charming, right, all these things that we like,
but he's just a I mean, it's like people will
chase celebrities and sort of ignore the meaningful people in
their life. Yeah, that's true, you know what I mean,
Like you should start treating some of your friends like
this a little bit.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's why I don't have any friends.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's true at all. You know, I
don't think that's true at all. And and he's earned everything.
Saturday Night Live is a pressure cooker of a show
to be on, sure, I mean it is a pressure cooker.
And the number of people who have been there and
just don't get the I mean, talk to Jay Moore
about Saturday Night Live. He didn't have nice things to say, right,
And and some other people probably as well. Jimmy happened
to be a guy that.
Speaker 5: Just he was on nduring the Adam Sandler Chris Fairley,
which was which to me was the second best, was
the second best cast that was ever on you know,
of course the originals the best, but these guys for
our generation that was kind of what the original was
for us. These were guys a well and made it
movies and you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah so And the other thing that I always wonder too,
is like, is it not Jimmy, but just in general,
just take things in general, even things have become trendy
or hot. Would we care if other people didn't also
care that, you know what I mean. You were a
bar owner at one point in your life. You were
also in radio, you know, I mean you have seen
people try to impress yes, yeah, yeah, and and and
and it's it's sometimes it just is like it's it's laffable.
Speaker 5: It is and it's like, yeah, what people, and you
made degree a gree point if they treated their friends
like they want to treat slave, that's by one of
one of the greatest that that's a great, great point.
Speaker 3: Well, I only say that because Jimmy could not and
I I've said this about four times. I've been around
the guy a couple of times. He could not be
nicer right when he comes in, he could not be nicer. Uh.
And to even think I want anybody listening to think
how many people are you still in touch with from
high school? There are some people that probably are and have,
you know, maybe still have that crew. I stay a
sort of in touch with one guy, Jimmy has guys
that he just takes on trips that he went to
high school with.
Speaker 5: I actually have a friend that we've been friends for
forty five years and we still you know, and me
still Yeah.
Speaker 3: See, he lives, he lives. He lives here. But I
mean that's like, okay, so like you like me, I
have one a couple, but I don't live where I
went to high school either, but neither does he. She's
still in the state. I just I don't know. It's
just kind of kind of I.
Speaker 5: Mean, the one of one of the people I work with,
I mean, she was we want we went to school together.
She didn't know me, but we still went to school
together and we're friends now.
Speaker 3: So uh, we will take a moment. It's you and
me tonight. Yeah, So I'd like to add kind of silent.
I want to ask you just some things think about
this question. Yes, what did owning a bar and being
part of that scene teach you about people that working
in a school confirms? In other words, it's kind of
like people are people. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah,
I just I think like there is and I know
it sounds weird, but it's it's dealing with people at
different stages in life, but even there, trying to walk
between meeting a kid's needs and also doing what the bosses,
so to speak. We'll get to that right after this.
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Speaker 5: Can I just say that.
Speaker 3: You ever hear the sun? Yeah? I don't know if
you played this Something's in the.
Speaker 5: Underrated Brad Tup is like probably one of the best.
You know, I put them in the Little gramm Air
ear Paul Rodgers, but no one ever talks about because
no one you know, but no one knows his name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well most people, I mean most people listen to
us enough. Yeah, I mean this one was played on
the radio. Yeah, I think the whole album was. Yeah.
I mean it's born out some love right. Yeah. Can't
you see what you mean to me? I didn't love
out there. I like dedicated to him that letould do that.
Who I don't know, what do you got? Nobody? Yeah,
that's what I forgot about that great song. I totally
forgot about that. My sister in.
Speaker 5: Loave loves Boston and she loves this album and over
and she played it. I forgot how much I I
love third stage. Yeah, that's what you know. That reminds
me of being, you know, sixteen years old too.
Speaker 3: Yeah when I so, I didn't know music at all.
Like I listened to a lot of Top forty as
a kid. Was very impressed with Rick Dy's thought. He
was like so funny on the weekly Top forty.
Speaker 5: See I listened to Dick Clark. Now I listened to
Rksey Keyesom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, I got whatever station I had, but
in Poughkeepsie it was K one O four. And then
I loved this guy at night, Mark Boulger, because Mark
would do things like he was building the world's largest
meatball in the parking lot. And then he had word
builder Bob, who was just some guy call up and
I just found it. Like so, I was like I
was like ten, nine, ten years old, I'm like, this
is the greatest shit in the world. Who are these guys?
And but then as I got older, the cool station
became the rock station, right and they had the best
morning show in Poughkeepsie and all that. So now I
get to and I my parents didn't play a lot
of music, you know, they just didn't And you didn't
know the artist you knew maybe the top forty songs
and things and what was on the time at the eighties,
even def Leppard had crossed over. They were being played
on top forty stations and shit like that, so you
knew all that stuff. I get to the I wound
up working at an AM station that is the sister
station to the big rocker in town with the cool
morning show and all that stuff, and I really want
to be over there. And I'm like nineteen years old.
And after like two months of kind of hanging out
doing the filling in for the morning show on the
original hit so the forties, fifties, and sixties, they come
to me and go, hey, would you like to do
midnight to six am Saturday night into Sunday morning. Well,
and they used to have live DJ's, live DJ's twenty
four hours a day, so I go sure. So now
I get in there and I don't know the music
that well. Now, I was also in college and I
was working at a deli and I used to always
lose the name that tune whenever, and they'd listen to
that rock station once they started working there. I was
fucking cleaning up now, right, But so this is true story.
So I'm taking to think about this Saturday night a
rock station. Most people have it on. They're drinking their partying. Right,
it's like and it's it's nineteen ninety one, so right,
there's no we don't have social media, we can't write ever.
Call the DJ. Let's call the DJ and get a
song played, and they'd be worm man bright his song.
So I was like, fuck, man, this is my opportunity.
I could tape the phone calls, I can do all
this shit. And I get a request and I figure,
I don't know if they left me a slot that
I could play a request or I just went rogue.
I probably just went rogue because I was so excited
just to talk to people and have people hear me.
I thought, this is the coolest thing in the fucking world.
So someone he says, can you play Dan Fogelberg Leader
of the band? Okay, are you familiar with that song?
Dan Fogelberg leader of the band? No, it's the leader
of the band has died, but it's I think it's
leader of the band. Is the name of the song?
Is it the Christmas one? No? No, I know the
one you mean? I will play this for you now
I want you to remember. I want you to remember
that this is let's see, okay, this is from this
is a Saturday night, and I'm just in there, so
it's still I mean, for most people, it's still Saturday night,
even though we're into Sunday morning. It's like twelve thirty, right,
and they're they're raging, these people, and somebody calls up
and asks for this song, and I'm excited, so I
have to find it, and I find it on vinyl.
You please this in a rocky I do know the song, Okay,
so this is right? This is what yach right is.
I don't even know, right, I don't really know, but
I'm like, oh, I think I know that song. I
think my mom likes it. I think I don't rock station.
When they're looking for fucking Metallica, the Stones, they're looking
for something with balls, and I put this on the
fucking phone. Light up, you get this off to I'm
all like embarrassed. I don't know what to do. I'm
like having a panic attack by myself at like quarter
to one on a Sunday morning at nineteen, going what
do I do? What do I do? Why? Why?
Speaker 7: What do I do?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 8: That's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because I didn't know music, right, I didn't
know and and so I was like, listen to it.
I mean you listen to your ship first. No, I
just because it was on an album. Now, remember albums,
you had to play it right, and then he had
to back it up a quarter of return, so you
didn't get the warm as an album starts. If you
and vinyls becoming popular again. You started at the beginning
of the song and goes want as it catches up
to seventy five or forty five or thirty three RPMs,
And so you backed it up and then it would
you would do it, and you were trying to mix it,
so it just kind of flowed from one to the other.
And I used to love doing it when I had
two live cuts back to back, and I would just
make it sound like it was a real concert because
I remember a buddy of mine going I thought for
sure you went to the bathroom or something. Dude. I
just kept hearing the crowd here and then all of
a sudden, here comes another song, and like that was
when I had a little more confidence. But this time
I was shitting my pants. I thought people were gonna
come down to the radio station and throw fucking rocks
through the window. I thought they were gonna cut I
was like, in my mind, I'm being carried out. They're
gonna throw me in the fucking river. I didn't know
what was happening. I was panicked, absolutely fucking panicked. Well,
what's the.
Speaker 5: Difference between that and like a slow Eagle song, dude,
because you were probably playing that either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the two save Paul.
Speaker 5: If I was driving me, if I was driving all
of a sudden I listened toy some comes out, I
would be so.
Speaker 3: Excited, I know, because it's different. I would be like,
this is fucking I think somebody came down. I think
like one of the DJs was still there and he goes,
did you just play Dan Fogelberg, leader of the band
in this station? I'm like I did. I didn't know,
And then I'm gonna think I'm gonna get fired. I
don't have like all kinds of shit. That's it. That's
a great sun It was, Yeah, it is. I mean
it is. Anytime I hear it now I kind of go,
all right, enough, it's played on I listened to a
lot of satellite. Well, it's played a lot now because
it's great because it shot rock. Yeah, and and but
they played on the bridge too. I'll ask you because
you have had one of the most unique lives in
terms of careers, in terms of careers, right, radio, radio, sales,
radio promotions, TV, TV, TV tech, all this stuff, right,
and then you are owning a bar, right, And I'm
just curious, what did owning a bar teach you about
people that working in a school confirmsed because now here
you are and you're probably freaking amazing with the kids.
That's my that's my success.
Speaker 5: If it was for owning owning that bar, is why
I'm succeeding at this job. Really, Yes, I have patience
now and I never had. I'm more I know how
to how to talk. Is that from age or is
that from you think? I guess think from age. But
you learn that from the bar too. You know that
one person that you're going to cut off, you're going
to cut off, is going to most likely flip out,
you know. And and it's almost the same, you know,
it's it's almost the same. You have to learn how
to talk to somebody or touch They don't so they don't,
you know, have a so they don't have an issue
where they don't you know, get triggered. So it's very
it's it's very similar in a weird way. I guess
because I guess dealing with older drunk people, I'm not
scared of dealing with, you know, with kids.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so who behaves worse? Drunk adults are over
stimulated kids, drunk adults. The kids are great, you know
what I mean. You can reason with the kid. You
can't reason with an adult. With drunk adult. No. And
I always say like, and I really mean this. Uh.
And I had an experience where, you know, I could
have said I was drunk, and I did a solo
podcast recently about it, and I go, you really can't
say that because alcohol doesn't make you, It doesn't make
you do things. What it does is it takes the
breaks off. The inhibitions are gone. So now you're gonna
say it, it's it's your thoughts, it's your stuff. You know,
it's not a truth serum. People want to say, well,
they'll tell you the truth when they're drunk. No, I won't.
The breaks are off, the breaks are off. They probably
just aren't saying whatever is on their mind as kindly
to somebody you know, and and that's the thing, and like,
but that's where like even when celebrities around and people,
it's fucking like to see some guy out of trout
thirty outside iron smokes screaming, I fucking I go, I'm
out of here. I don't want to be associated with this.
I don't want to be around it. I don't want
to say, hey man, look who's standing right behind me?
Fuck you, I'm out right, you know what I mean.
I don't want that. I don't want that at all.
I just, you know, was there anything that kind of
surprised you when you when you kind of trade let's
say nightlife, right, you know, and to a hall pass.
I love I love this. I love this. I know
you do like it. I know you do.
Speaker 5: It's seven thirty and I'm you know, I could I'll
probably be asleep by ten.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. It's like, yeah, it's
when you were, when you were in the night life,
so to speak, the night like club bar, whatever. Uh.
What was a what was a early night?
Speaker 5: Well, because I was taking care of my mother, it
wasn't as late I mean early night. Well, sometimes it
was two three, but usually it was around midnight one o'clock. Okay,
it never was really anything that crazy.
Speaker 3: You didn't go to like five some days, simon, mean
it's happened every every once in a while, right, Well, yeah, yeah,
because I've even hung out after hours and you just
start shooting the ship and you're drinking and you don't
even realize you're just talking and drinking and talking and
the next thing you know, like you go, holy shit, man,
the sun's coming up. What the yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and then to go to work in two hours,
you know, Yeah, that's never uh, that's never.
Speaker 3: No. I just think, like, to me, it's different rooms,
same human behavior.
Speaker 5: It is, it really is, And that's I guess that's
how this actually worked out, you know, you know, because
I have the mindset, it's really not much different. You
have to reason with them. You have to reason with
You have to reason with with drunk adults and drunk adults.
You know, a kid, you can reason with drunk adults.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 5: No, you know, they wanted our beer and you've cut
them off, they're gonna there's no problems.
Speaker 3: Right, And then you always have to have that one
poor buddy who's got a step and he go come
on man, Yeah, you know you don't want to do this.
You can look bad man.
Speaker 5: You know anything, everybody thinks they're your friend in of
our like the regulars think they're you know, they can
do anything what they want or say, you know what
I mean, Like they can think they.
Speaker 3: Can drink over I yeah, I know. You know I've
been I am that guy.
Speaker 5: I am that guy. I am that guy too, And
I ended up buying the freaking place.
Speaker 3: Well I haven't done that, but like even even the
night the other night, I walked behind the bar and
somebody else followed me who I know and is known
and has great businesses and things, and they go, you
can't come back here, and they're like, well I can
hear he goes because Damien said it's okay for him. Yeah,
we have we have had. So I'm standing there and
then I start pouring myself again. Well I've done that
for a while. Like you didn't have many times you
didn't get your guinness before you have? No, I did, no,
But this time he was Jimmy was back and they
were singing, and then Tommy Burnett was playing with him,
and Tyler from m Ads brought his guitar I was
up there and I, uh yeah, And so I went
behind the bar and I filmed some stuff and I
and then I just started. I just looked at Damian
and go, can I have a gainness? Because that's the
hell I used to be when when when Man? When man?
Speaker 5: And Marco and did I used to do that all
the time. I go get my own beer and stuff
like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, it is funny. We touched on
something like being older. Well you say, uh, I mean,
why why do you say I'll ask that. I don't know.
Speaker 5: It just it's just well, probably because of all the
all the problems I've had last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but everything's fixable.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I kind of like it because I feel like I
can see things a little differently. And I don't always
I'm saying I never, but I don't always overreact to
situations where I don't take things too personally. It's like
I may in the past, and you know what I mean,
and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: Is your friend list gone down a lot? Do you
have a lot of friends still?
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah. I was always a little bit of a loaner,
so there were guys like I'd be part of the group,
but I was always kind of doing my own thing.
Speaker 5: I was the kind of guy that needed to be
out with somebody, needed to be texting. Yeah, I damn
my phone now I phone three people text me.
Speaker 3: Well, I knew where I could find my friends, like
you know, and I and that friend group and like
I'll tell you I mentioned this on the other podcast.
But a very great guy, a good friend to everybody,
and part of that kind of a friend group wife
passed away. Yeah, and you know we're gonna it just happened.
So it sucks, Yeah it does. Yeah, fifty three just
you know that's young. Yeah yeah, and you know, two
girls in college and stuff, and the services will be
at the end of this week. And I think that,
yeah I know them local or yeah, Okay, it's gonna
be hard. Yeah, it's gonna be hard. It's gonna suck.
But let me ask you this though, too, because sometimes
as we get older, we get opinions and sometimes they harden,
you know what I mean. You know, I try very
hard to keep an open mind and try to look
at things as much as I can, as objectively as
I can, but sometimes and I kind of go at
what age do they harden? And then sometimes you go.
What age do they finally soften again. I mean, you
got some pretty strong opinions. Yeah, I got strong opinions.
But I'm turning into my father, I am.
Speaker 5: I hate going to crowded places. I don't even I
don't like to go to bills games anymore. Concerts, you know,
it has to be a certain facultcyy. A concert has
to be like a semac or you know, it has
to be on my terms. I have to sit in
the seats that I want to sit in. I had
chance to have second row to Keith Urban and Semac.
Speaker 3: I chose the last the last seat, the last row.
Speaker 5: I two seats and in the place so I can
get out, get in and get out.
Speaker 3: Be able to get up and get out. You're second row.
You're stuck up there? Yeah you are. And I don't
like that.
Speaker 5: That's you know, anxiety, anxiety?
Speaker 3: Why what do you think is going to happen? I
don't know.
Speaker 5: I just hate being Yeah, you know, I like being
out and the open and you know, just.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Wow, yeah, that's uh.
Speaker 5: But I'm like, you know, I'm I went home Friday.
Usually go to my brother's house and we hang out.
We hang out there, but I'd be going home the
last couple of Fridays. You know, I'm asleep at nine
o'clock on a Friday. And mister excitement, I know. I
am the most boring fucking person in the world.
Speaker 3: Marianne and more.
Speaker 5: Marianne was more social than I was.
Speaker 3: All Right, here's another question since we talk about opinions,
and that's what's like, you know, your boring life that
you lead today that it wasn't always boring. I've known
you for a while. Was not always waring. I really
really wasn't. But was there ever a time where there
are people that need to be right? And you see
it a lot of social media, like they have to
be right and if you disagree with them in any way,
like you're not just wrong. I used to say, you're
dead fucking wrong if you cross them. Did you stop way? Yes?
And I stopped. Yeah. It takes a lot out of me.
Speaker 5: But when someone's fucking trashing Josh Allen Man, my first thing,
especially at Baltimore, a Baltimore you know fan or Cincinnati
fan takes everything I have not I actually I'll write
on the thing and.
Speaker 3: Then then I'll delete that you're right and delete it
just to get it out so it doesn't build upside.
I don't know. I think one of the things too,
is you get older, is I think listening is a
some people go it's like a surrender, like you just
kind of give in finalism. But I think it's actually
a learned skill. I think you got to really listen
to somebody, and I think that that sometimes could be
the difference for even romantic relationships. If you actually listen
to what the person's saying and you pick up on
subtle cues and things, you could find you could have
the better gifts, you could have, the better you know
what I mean, the better surprises, the better shit, the
better everything, if you do that. And I don't know,
just a I think that's something that that people don't
really do at all. And I think when you're with
the kids, you gotta listen. You do listen. You gotta, yeah,
you got all you know.
Speaker 5: I'm you know, and I'm training and I'm trained to
do that too though you know, yeah, I went through
an intense training to be able to listen and understand
and and be more you know, be more help than
going oh whatever, well, you know whatever, you know, I'll.
Speaker 3: Suck it up.
Speaker 5: You can't do that anymore. It has to be you
have to listen. You have to be able to answer
the questions, you know, and and you know, are.
Speaker 3: You okay with that? Like what I fucking suck world
and out? I am. I'm good with that. Well, I mean,
let me ask. Well it piss pisses me off. It
was this way.
Speaker 5: People were fucking pissing me off when we had snow
days in January. You had two snow days, and people
are fucking pissing me off. They're like, oh, back in
my day, you know we went to school. No we didn't.
We had snow.
Speaker 3: Yeah we did. We did. We actually had.
Speaker 5: More snow d's than than we do now. So we
get a stoniad and everybody bitches about how how soft
because these kids are not soft, These kids aren't you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3: They get a snow day, they get a snowdy. Is
not their fault.
Speaker 5: You know, it's a new you know, everybody says the.
Speaker 3: New generation is fucked. Fuck you, No it's not. It's
not fucked. I don't think it is either. I think
that it's a more tolerant I don't think that there
is mean to each other. I mean a podcast will
come out tomorrow. I had Kevin's son, who is a
pretty elite hockey player in Monroe County. Yeah, really really good.
Him and another buddy. Uh, his son goes to Aquinas
the other body goes to Irondequoit. But they're on a
travel team together, so they compete against each other part
of this year, and their their teammates part of the year.
And I was saying to them ship that I would
do in locker rooms, and they go, yeah, nobody does anymore. Yeah,
like I mean taping a guy to the bench, and
they don't do that. They don't I don't get this
in on see it. They don't play. They just don't
play that way. And I think that's where we go, Well,
it's soft, well is it? How about the poor guy
that had is your fucking asshole three inches from his
nose as you ripped one and probably left a little
fecal matterfly, you know what I mean? Like, and we go, yeah,
we're the coolest wah and what I don't know, And
it's just like maybe maybe it's a better world. I
don't know that we're actually I.
Speaker 5: Just people, you know, I mean but every wady trash
our generation too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know everybody. Oh they do.
Speaker 5: Is sit around play Atari and watch MTV, you know,
and i'm TV's and I'm TV's retired now.
Speaker 3: But it's legendary and entire is the first Atari is
why we have starting the start. It's the start event.
That's our jobs, that's where jobs started on all this stuff.
It's so funny. All right, we will uh, we'll take
another quick break. We get another song from Mark. That
last one was fantastic anything. I'm just thinking this your single,
Yes I am too, fifty four, fifty five and twenty days, Okay,
fifty five and twenty days. Is that I don't want
you to think about this? Is that freedom or is
it just quiet? We'll get to that right right after this.
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one we're talking.
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opinion has a millennial.
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and it don't descend This the scene number two ain't nothing,
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Speaker 3: Bank, SORRY I i'm not as familiar with this, song
so it's not a popular. Song, no it's. FINE i
have no problem with. It i'm thinking about. It and
there's a couple of thoughts THAT i had. Immediately AND
i always worry that their knee, Jerk BUT i, go
when you are almost fifty years old and you're still
the rebel giving the middle finger and, STUFF i don't,
know he.
Speaker 5: Hasn't done those those rap albums long.
Speaker 3: Time, NO i understand. It and then he's then he did.
THAT i don't. Know it's not. BAD i get. IT
i know what he's. Saying but to be going if,
mother it's Like i'm a different. Though. Yeah LOOK i
know what he's, saying AND i get. It but let
me just take the one thing he said in, there
Because i've always argued this point a little. BIT i
know what you're saying is when we give everybody a.
TROPHY i haven't seen well, NOW i have seen, that
but it's usually like really little, kids, Right AND i
thought it, was, LIKE i don't, know was when my
boys were really, little and then later on they stopped doing,
that BUT i thought it was when they were like
five or eight or. Whatever but they also gave out
awards for the kid who scored the most goals and all.
That so you got not just the trophy for showing
up every day and putting yourself into, it you also
got the the you scored the most Goals. Mark bill
doesn't get that Because bill scored the most goals at
least in the teams THAT i, experienced and that was
twenty something years. AGO i don't know that things have changed,
now BUT i would say, that is it terrible to
give every kid who came out to every practice at
four or five years old a? TROPHY i don't think it.
IS i THINK i think it's one of these things
where maybe you get them to, go, hey, MAN i
want to do that. AGAIN i like the. TROPHY i earned.
SOMETHING i did, THIS i enjoyed, it and maybe you keep.
Going at some point it does. STOP i don't think
they're doing it in high school for. SURE i don't
think they're doing it ON aau. TEAMS i don't think
they're doing so it ends so always that that argument
to me is always, LIKE i just feel like it's
myopic and.
Speaker 5: You're, Teaching you're teaching the kids young that they can't you, know.
Speaker 3: The point is that we don't have a, meritocracy like
you're not earning. It you're Not you're not going out
there and earning. It AND i, GO i. DON'T i.
DISAGREE i disagree with four or. Five it should be
about learning the.
Speaker 1: Game.
Speaker 5: Anyway they finished the whole season like fucking.
Speaker 3: Puppies, RIGHT i mean that's how they, are so. Okay you, know,
LOOK i got an eight year old. Nephew he's on
a ski. Team my brother sent me a video of
him slalom, skiing, Right AND i don't think that there's
going to be a participation in trophy for every kid
that was on the. TEAM i, KNOW i really. Don't
AND i don't think that that's even a thought in anybody's.
HEAD i don't think it's done to make a. POINT
i don't think it's done not to make a. POINT
i just think that that's. IT i think when they're really,
little he give it to them just for coming, Out,
hey thanks for being part of, us you, know and
then if you, CAN i, agree give the little extra
to the kid that really like you, know you don't
know how much.
Speaker 5: Debt helps a kid be holding onto that.
Speaker 3: Trop did you change your opinion on? THAT i.
Speaker 5: DID i actually agreed with. WHAT i actually agreed with
What Kid rock was.
Speaker 3: Saying AND i get what. TOTALLY i get it, Too
BUT i DON'T i just giving somebody giving it a
kid giving a, Kid AND i get it at nine
and we you, know now you're in a little league
WHEN i was, nine and this was the, difference AND
i AND i think they still they still do. It
maybe they, don't BUT i thought it like by nine
my town little, league you got. Cut there were, tryouts
you got, cut AND i remember a neighbor girl said to,
me you're not gonna make. It my brothers didn't make
it at, nine AND i was so fucking happy WHEN i,
did but only two kids made it right, NOW i
will also say, this you want to talk about soft
and a. PUSSY i didn't try out for basketball BECAUSE
i KNEW i wasn't that good AND i was probably
gonna get, cut AND i didn't THINK i could because
every SPORT i ever played up, until, LIKE i never
played a lot of organized basketball up until being able,
to you, know try out for THE jv, TEAM i
had never got, caught never got. CUT i passed The
New York state test to be on varsity in certain,
sports BUT i KNEW i sucked at, basketball AND i
never tried. Out AND i still think that's one of
the worst THINGS i ever, did because learning to handle
that kind of rejection is. Better or, huh and your
kid is so good at. Basketball he's pretty. GOOD i
wouldn't say he's, great but he's pretty. Good it's pretty. Good,
yeah he's pretty. Good but that's. UH i think that's. Interesting,
YEAH i GET i get what Kid rocks, SAYING i
don't know where the snowflakes and all. That that's what
they call it in their, GENERATION i, know but it's,
like but they did.
Speaker 5: This LIKE i, said they did the same thing with,
us you, know WITH mtv and with and with you,
know arcades and stuff like. THAT i, mean we were
that's we were considered the the hip, generation you, know
the electronic, generation and we weren't even.
Speaker 3: CLOSE i always WONDER i would love to know somebody's
like like real research on this or real. Whatever. UH
a lot of times you'll see GEN, x we drank
out of a garden, hose wet the. House our parents didn't,
know like all true. TRUE i lived. It we. US
i used to build jumps in the driveway over my
father had, jackson you could pull the car up. ON
i would be jumping over and doing this stuff and
skidding out and doing like having. It and a lot
of times they didn't. Know here's my thing THAT i
wonder about SOMETIMES i think that there are things that
happened to a specific generation and they are it fucks
them up a little, bit and so the next generation
kind of has to find their own. Way and what
that is is. War and you AND i are people
of a generation who who some of the, parents not,
all but some of the parents were in The Vietnam
war and we have and it was an ugly.
Speaker 5: War it was an ugly, war and don't forget we
also had friends that were in the gulfer.
Speaker 3: What we had, Friends, Yes but What i'm saying IS
i were growing up is like your, parent who knows
what they were dealing, with you know What i'm. Saying
and then it just kind of became that. Thing you,
know even if you weren't in the, war but your brother,
was and your brother got killed or your sister, was
you know What i'm, Saying, like who? Knows and so,
oh maybe it was just easier get the fuck out
of the, House get the fuck out of the, House
get the fuck out of the. House and now we're kind of, like,
OH i know WHAT i was. DOING i want my
kid doing. That so let's kind of wrap our arms around.
This AND i have to tell you talking to these two,
GUYS i told them the story and you'll hear it
in the next, episode and it'll be. Interesting their reaction
to a STORY i TELL i don't want to give it,
away was one hundred and eighty degrees opposite of WHAT
i expected Eight AND i wouldn't say these kids are.
Soft they're, training they're elite hockey. Players they're going, everywhere
they're part of. Everything it's almost though they just have
a respect for each, other, right and they're not as,
shitty and yet somebody else can turn around go, yeah
but people are shooting each other and jumping each. Other
AND i think there's a every town has their own
social media site that that highlights all the bad stuff for.
Us it's rock gone. Mad and DO i see like
two people fighting in an area mall that you might live,
near or being closer to where you, live and somebody
grabs a, knife has a knife, out and they're, screaming
he's got a, knife he's got a, knife and they're
like wrestling in the one guy gets away and the
other guy with the knife is chasing him and it's
all going. On and then you hear people going where
security where the?
Speaker 5: CUT i wouldn't Get IF i was, SECURITY i wouldn't involved.
Speaker 3: That, no you understand What i'm. Saying but SO i don't.
KNOW i think people have been people always sometimes though
maybe we've softened in the little so we don't have
people pulling knives at each other in a fucking. MALL
i don't. KNOW i have no. Idea you can find
whatever you're fucking looking, for whatever thing you want to
support your. Argument you're gonna find it. Right you're gonna
find it. Right AND i know what he's, saying like
we're being uh fed a bunch of shit the liberal
media type. THING i NEVER i gotta be honest with,
YOU i don't know IF i know what the liberal media.
IS i always thought they were sort of shooting.
Speaker 5: Straight well WHEN i was, It Spectrum news Became Spectrum,
news that Turned Spectrum, news that turned AT, cnn that turned.
Speaker 3: Liberal, YEAH i, SAW i saw it. TOTALLY i, mean,
look she is kind of identified as that, too But i'm,
like but that becomes more. Opinion wouldn't the news just
be the news no matter what it. Is that's the problem.
Speaker 5: Though it's like you, go you, know Ask Rachel barnyard
about her about why she's not in media.
Speaker 3: Anymore it's it's not how DO i say, it.
Speaker 5: It's you go do this story and we're going to
write this like you're told what you're told what to
do and what's. Right, yeah that's what the liberal.
Speaker 3: WELL i, mean, LOOK i Think, sinclair who owned a
bunch of, stations uh not, liberal had a bunch of
like they. Have you can go on YouTube and find
it anchors from around including, here anchors from around the
country saying the exact same thing. Verbatim so to your,
POINT i don't know that it's just. LIBERAL i don't.
KNOW i, think you, know people feel, like, hey we
got an opportunity to get a message, out let's get it.
Out BUT i always thought the news should just be
the news, exactly just tell me the Next. Walter but
here's the. Problem social media changed the. Game and when
social media changes the, game by, THAT i mean now
you're not just you're a. Brand everybody becomes an individual. Brand,
well and the news is also out in five. Seconds,
well the news is out in five, seconds which is
not always, accurate right by a. Lot BUT i do
think like a lot of these people who are ON
tv become somewhat of a celebrity status and a, brand
and NOW i can talk to them and they can
express their. Opinions maybe not on the, air BUT i
know this guy's liberal because he's kind of set. It
and what news you Should they used to be like,
You they didn't need. To they. Don't WHAT i was
taught in journalism school is appear as neutral as. Possible
do not in any way if you're doing, news just straight.
News do not bring in any kind of you, know
a little bal DO i think this was? Written, no
don't say. It just tell me what.
Speaker 5: Happened, SEE i, like like people Hate Fox, news BUT
i WATCHED i watched the talk show On Fox. News
Actually kennedy From MEMORY. Mtv, yeah she has she's on
this show and they. Do they have liberals and they
have right, wings and they all put them together and
and they all see their. Opinions they all talk and you,
know and that's an opinion.
Speaker 3: SHOW i mean it, Though, YEAH i, mean, LOOK i
Think Bill maher tries to do that a little bit
too on his or by getting some conservatives on. There,
uh he gets a lot of ridicule for being not left.
ENOUGH i don't who the fuck, Alms but those are
like personalities That I'm kennedy's a. Personality she's not telling
you the. News it's it's to. Me it's like. Her
she's pretty damn. Good Uh, No i'll tell you. WHAT i.
Think the number one late night show with numbers that
are beating like the talk shows Is. Gutfeld, OKAY I
i THINK i might Maybe i'm. Wrong somebody can fact
check me as they, say BUT i THOUGHT i caught
win to, that And jamie's on there a, Lot jamie liss,
Out he's very, funny is, funny he's very funny on.
THERE i, can't you, know do? That, uh let me
let me dial back a, second BECAUSE i did ask
a question before we took our break and then heard
the Kid rock, song which STILL i, go you could
get the same MESSAGE i want to hear about a
fifty year old guy going suck. Mud, OKAY i guess all, Right,
YEAH i MEAN i understand. It, yeah, RIGHT i don't
have a problem with. IT i. DON'T i WOULDN'T i used.
To and by the, Way i'm glad that he's able
to put that out. There that's. True you. KNOW i
feel like that's something that's never really, addressed is we're
told about freedom of speech and people get very. Upset
And dan AND i had a conversation and he gets
a little heated about cancel, culture, right and that became
a big, thing, Right and it is about, power AND
i think that's one of the things Could rock maybe
referring to in his. SONG i wish it wasn't cancel
culture so much, SO i wish it was adult. Culture
and if we're trying to make a better, society gives
somebody an opportunity to prove that they have. Changed but
instead of this fuck you you're out, now there's some
people who probably should be fuck you you're out cosby
you know your drug and? Women all, RIGHT i got,
IT i got. That whatever went on With Harvey, weinstein,
Okay but some other, GUYS i feel like some of
it was, words some of it was things they, said
not necessarily physical actions that were. Taken and if that's the,
case why are we saying you got to say that?
Better you? Know AND i brought this up To dan.
Too i'll always like have a lot of respect for
who's the comedian that he was supposed to host The
oscars and he put Out Kevin. Hart Kevin hart was
supposed to post the host The. Oscars somebody dug up
a tweet from a number of years prior where he,
SAID i don't want my little boy playing with. Dolls
i'm not raising them, whatever right a pejorative and it,
was but he said it in a funnier, way allegedly
funnier way you can, decide and he, apologized, RIGHT i
called on. Apologizes he gets picked to host The. Oscars
somebody digs that tweet back up a number of years
later and puts it out, there and they want him to,
apologize AND i think he might have, Said i'll do
one what you, Know i've, Learned i've, evolved or something like.
THAT i THINK i think there was one apology and
they wanted something, else and he, Goes i'm not doing.
It and then they're, like, well you know you're hosting
The oscars or, Not and so now The oscars is
all Into. Twitter why is The oscars Into twitter About Kevin?
Hart probably because there's the potential of a huge backer
of the broadcast that's gonna happen that they're part. Of
i'm sure there's shared revenue or something that's gonna pull,
out and then you're. Fucked and that's not freedom of.
Speech that's capitalism and you get to support what you.
Want So Kid rock can put this out and you,
know say, it and people can decide to listen to
it or, not and that's kind of the way it should.
Be But Kevin hark, Goes i'm not doing. It i'm
not apologizing, again AND i don't care And i'm not
doing The. Oscars AND i, Thought i'm with. YOU i was,
like good for, you good for, you and Said i've
never Ever and people went through all his tweets since,
then since that, incident nothing that was that controversial or
of the same. Vein so then he learned the. Lesson
so why aren't we adult culture and going shut the fuck? Up?
Right but why do we need to Put i'm gonna
put you in your. Place it's exactly what the people
who are putting you into place. SAY i don't want
you telling. Me the number of people on both sides
of the aisle that would agree with the title of
the song we just played is. Amazing don't tell me
how to live my life? Right? Right transgender, people what
side of the aisle are they? On? Left? MAJORITY i would, think,
right do you do they want to be told what
they can and can't do with their? Body? No, right
don't tell me how to live my life. Right SO
i think it's kind of it's a human. THING i don't. Know,
SORRY i get a little passionate about this only because
it just drives me. NUTS i think everybody wants to
pick a side and, fight AND i, go you're all
fucking saying the same. Thing on your own. Side you're
saying the same fucking. Thing let me live my, life, Right, okay.
Speaker 5: That's WHY i don't, ARGUE. PIM i, MEAN i agree
with both. Sides there's certain things that, yeah certain THINGS
i agree on the. Right you, know some people that
are right or that are either of, them will agree
with something they don't really agree with because that they
don't you, know they're they're their right. Wing so they're gonna.
Go they're gonna. Go they might not agree with, it
but they're gonna say they do because they don't want
to be like a left wing vice.
Speaker 3: Versa, yeah let me let me we'll change it back
to WHAT i said to. You you're gonna be fifty
five and what twenty? Days, yes, man you, know how
do you feel about? THAT i don't. Care you don't, Know,
Okay i'm not sure Because I'm i'm not far behind
you And I'm i'm honestly for the first time going.
Good damn that DOES i don't. Know it does sound.
OLD i don't, know mother. Buggers but you're single at
at our? Age? Freedom or is it just? Quiet? Yes
that's perfect, answer perfect fucking the. ANSWER i, really is
is there anything you missed that surprises you like WHAT
i don't, know like being in a relationship kind of. Thing, no, no, no, no,
YEAH i don't want to be in a. Relationship why
don't you miss? It why don't you MISS i? Much
work too? MUCH i want to live my. LIFE i
live my. Life, no IT'S i work all the, time you.
Speaker 5: KNOW i MEAN i work three jobs soon a, fourth
SO i don't have time and people and you, know
girls want your you know your. Time i'm a shitty.
Boyfriend by the, Way i'm a good, friend a shitty.
BOYFRIEND i always say.
Speaker 3: Been why do you, SAY i just you, KNOW i JUST.
Speaker 5: I look back at girls THAT i THAT i didd
AND i would love to get girls THAT i didd
on here in the room and, fine you, know like ev,
YEAH i would love it Because i'll never. Forget WHEN
i was twenty twenty, one it was my girlfriend at
the times birthday AND i went to KIT i went
To metallica And Clenson roses instead of instead of celebrating.
Speaker 3: Your, birthday why need you take her with? You she
didn't want to. Go that's a twenty one or twenty
two year. Old and by the, way, uh sometimes sometimes
this is gonna come. Out please make it come. Out,
No i'm gonna make it come. OUT i understand that
we want, attention but it comes down to, this LIKE
i try to say this a, lot AND i say
it and try to say it in different ways so
it resonates with people in that. Situation what happens is she's,
pissed but she won't say. Anything, right you do what
was gonna make you? Happy right, right and you're torn
because you'd probably won't feel like you should be spending
it with. Her but why why don't WE i? Know
but why do we have to celebrate? You that? DAY
i bought these tickets like a year what those fucking
shows went on sale a year in? Advance almost they
Were monsters Of rock.
Speaker 5: Shows, yeah, yeah it was when guns In mitel BECAUSE i, mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah The monsters Of ROCK i think they were doing
it and so but those tickets WERE i thought. Hard
to get her in, advance you had to wait, time
so they were you have to wait. Online New York
city had to wait, no, no, no, no not. Online you
had to go to the box, office and you had a.
Wristband it was a. Lottery and then so like if
you had number, hey we're starting at number six twenty,
one and if your bracelet was seven to twenty, two you're,
like fuck, yes because it's everything after six twenty. One
anything before, that you better hope there's still seats when
they come back. Around and that's how they used to do,
it and you'd be standing outside with your fucking bracelet
waiting to know if you could go in and buy. Yep,
Yeah and it was ALL i forgot about, it and
so it was like you had to jump through. Hoops
so now you jump through hoops and you, go and
then you start, dating or after you've bought the tickets
and all this stuff and now it's her. BIRTHDAY i
think we were. Dating, NO i don't. Know MAYBE i
think we were. Dating trying to give you an out of,
HERE i, mean BUT i think we were a. Dating
but here's the other, things like if somebody knows that's
what you really wanted and they truly love, you and
at twenty one twenty, two don't tell me you're truly in.
Love you're, not most are you, aren't and you go
and you. Go then it just becomes a fighting point
like well he doesn't, care, well he, does but he
also wants to have fun. Himself by the, Way uh
you know that one life you, have that's those the
same thing for. Him he's got one and he decided
to go do. That doesn't mean he hates, you doesn't
mean he's being. Selfish and SOMETIMES i think we all
should be a little more fucking, selfish Because i'll tell you,
WHAT i bet you were a lot happier after that
show than he would have been had you sat with,
her her and her friends and watch them shove fucking
cake in their. Frings, right you know WHAT i?
Speaker 5: MEAN i saw two of the, biggest two of the
bands that there's the biggest, bands, Right, yes still very
ch was our Led.
Speaker 3: Zeppelin, yes that's What i'm. Saying, Yes and so what
are we gonna? Do be miserable with some of them
bitch about? Stuff RANGING i guy so?
Speaker 5: Beat she, said fifty five fucking? Birthdays you?
Speaker 3: Know there you, go there you, go bit bring me.
Around i'll argue this shit. Out, NO i just it
is something THAT i think we often. Do and then
what happens is in relationships is you push it down
so she won't say. Anything so now you're started walking on.
Eggshells you know? What it, is but you're not really
sure if you're, right and nobody addresses. It and it
would be simple if she just, said you, KNOW i
want to tell you. SOMETHING i was really hurt when
you went to the show and didn't come to my.
Birthday and you could say fuck, you, no you could
say you could say too. Bad, no you could just
SAY i. Know, uh but these are two of the biggest,
bands AND i don't know What i'm going to see him?
Again actual roads is such a fucking, mess you know
WHAT i. Mean i'm, surprised let's, say now we're in
twenty twenty. Six i'm surprised he's. Alive, uh you. Know
AND i may never see these. Guys AND i had
to jump through somebody hoops just to get the.
Speaker 5: TICKETS i went with my. Brother he doesn't. Remember he
claims he's never seen me tall because he's seen them
like three.
Speaker 3: TIMES i love what? Right Because i've never seen? Me,
yes you? HAVE i go.
Speaker 5: We, yeah, man t about getting?
Speaker 3: Old, yeah all, Right we'll take a. Moment what since
we talked about music and music seems to be kind
of a big thing for. You what? Happened oh not
THAT i don't want To i'm all tangled. Up i'll
fix it that. Headphones, YEAH i gotta figure things. Out
uh what song instantly takes you? Back and why that?
Moment what does it take you back? To and maybe
you just don't say anything right. Now if you can
think of, That i'll find the song and we'll play you.
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Speaker 6: Com when you start, crying nah, no doesn't take it all,
right hang, On we'll let it play a. Second this
is one of the biggest albums of what eighty, six.
Speaker 3: Not A Mons. Strangers oh that's, Me bull The, street out.
Speaker 7: The whim with all the, keys Small net And bob
say believe it.
Speaker 3: Is all about. It we'll sit. Out we'd break that bot.
Again next, version the next, Line, yeah, friends listen, up
you're tearing. Up i'm cheering. Up, yeah you're you're gonna
cry it remember going to see Bon jovi at The
Orange County speedway because.
Speaker 6: He's a School, yeah raising cost and.
Speaker 3: Cool we're the sids bedroom and the, state no bless
cool we've never had from. Me we met a fine
blade on the song now he'll do it so.
Speaker 7: Strong so.
Speaker 3: He. Did he married his Sy, yes that's. Interesting so
when he's that part of the song right, There, uh
this song doesn't necessarily take me. BACK i wasn't a
huge Bon jovi, fan, right BUT i was. Aware LIKE
i said to, YOU i had a friend who was
a little bit older than. Me he actually was LIKE i.
Was his sister was a year ahead of me in.
School he was a couple of years ahead of. That
he would babysit for me once in a while and
help me build, rams and we would play his card
game Called. Bullshit AND i love this. Guy and he
got dumped and had bought a pair of tickets and
goes you want to? Go SO i went with him
and his Buddy, dan And dan was taking this girl
who was on the. News they HAD i think these
guys were just wrapped up At. Geneseo they were communications
pagers and she got a job on the, news like
early cable, news early early cable. News we're talking like early, nineties,
Right AND i remember going and meeting this. Woman it
was the this is so bad. Mark it's the first
TIME i had ever seen a woman that like from
the waist, up but from the waist down was someone totally.
Different was like you took two bodies and put them.
Together oh and she was just, big big in the,
legs big but not. Big, OKAY i shouldn't say. This
here's why it stuck out in my head And i'll
never forget. It dan put her on his shoulders AND
i fucking lost, it laugh AND i, go this guy's
gonna slip a. Disc i'm saying shit Like i'm whispering
shit like he's gonna slip a. Disc he's gonna be
walking with a fucking. Limp LIKE i JUST i couldn't believe.
IT i couldn't believe. It and her ash is so.
Big it was, like it's terrible to, SAY i, understand believe,
me don't cancel. ME i am just sharing a story
with you from. Them BUT i. Did there was a
place WHERE i grew up in like really, rural AND i,
said racing cars certainly did that six pack certainly had
those h and we used to go to a place
Called Wilbur. Flats it was a road and it was
like a dirt road that nobody really drove, on and
we would all pull, off pop the, back you, know the,
trunks and it would be beer and music playing and
we would just hang out in this fucking, field this
dirt road that nobody really went.
Speaker 5: Down we hung out in parking. Line, yeah and it
was fucking. Awesome feels sound like more?
Speaker 3: Fun, oh it's. Awesome we had field parties all the.
Time we'd find somebody to get us a keg and
every field parties and all kinds of.
Speaker 5: Shit just have a guy that you used to open
up his trunk and it.
Speaker 3: Was it was a. Bar he was all set. Up
he had all for your. Bottles it was. Unbelievable, see
if you do it with, class you, know it's even.
Better it's more. Memorable anybody could have a kegger the cops.
Freaking even the cops appreciated. It that's. Funny why does
music outlast some? Friendships even LIKE i think about, it, friendships, jobs,
marriages they don't last as long as like a song
that brings you back to a certain, TIME i always,
say what's the sweet spot of? Life like there are
certain Songs i'd listen to AND i, go, oh it's
such a piece of. Ship BUT i love it because
it's that sweet spot of life THAT i, remember you,
KNOW i mean when if you're From, rochester.
Speaker 5: Foreigner rev on The Red line is like it's always
been a huge. Song yeah you, KNOW i mean it's
talking about what it's talking About Lake avenue and the
beach and.
Speaker 3: Reason, yeah BECAUSE i always, think, like Sometimes i'm not
sure that taste in music is so much about your
personality as it is about a. Memory certain songs like to,
SAY i love this song BECAUSE i will, RECOGNIZE i
will GO i know this song is a steaming pile of,
shit BUT i love it, RIGHT i love. It the
Two fitchicks went. Tonight they were talking about how one
of them said the guy was talking about going to
a show and the only thing he could compared to
in terms of energy and fun and pyrotechnics was going
to a kiss. Show and one of the girls, said
oh my, GOD i was at a kiss show and
these guys, said, hey do you want to get on
our shoulders so you can see a because it was
kind of ga and one of, them they were close
ups to, stage took the girl who was on his
shoulders and fucking launched her off and she landed on
the stage and she's up there and she decided to
take the moment and she kissed each member of the
band and they got ushered off and she's, LIKE i
couldn't find. HER i didn't know what had. Happened she
got thrown out right and my cell. PHONE i can't
wait out anything, Right so that. Happens and then she,
said but years, AGO I Rod. STEWART i was at
a show In syracuse and he pulled about a bunch
of women up on, stage like twenty, Women AND i,
said what was the? Song and she's, LIKE i, said,
wait let me. Guess was it the steaming pile of?
Shit do you Think i'm? Saying, say worst song? Ever
fucking worst song? Ever but IF i hear, IT i
know all the. Worst why because it hit me in
a point in my life where that was cool and
my parents didn't like the. Songs that made me like
it even, More and it was like some guys have
all the. LUCK i can answer a little cutter something like.
That it's all, right it's all. Right SO i don't
know that it's about personality as much as its. Memory,
yeah you, know maybe newer. Music you, go, OKAY i got.
You but you, Know John, HYATT i get. It you
guys all make are you gonna go to the? JOB
i gotta want to. GO i want to see. THAT
i love. It it's uh the day after my son's sixteenth,
birthday AND i GOTTA i gotta double. CHECK i was
just looking at. TICKETS i was just looking at. Tickets i'm,
like don't you know? ANYBODY i don't anymore, really and uh,
Yeah SO i was looking at tickets and there's some
some really good close seats still, available SO i was
Thinking i'd rather. That and Then i'm looking at on
the aisle SO i can get the right out of there, too,
RIGHT i cannot sit in the middle five mit.
Speaker 5: Seats i'm in the. Middle i'm gonna have a panic.
Speaker 3: Attack uh. HUH i need this beyond the? End yeah, right,
YEAH I i don't. KNOW i don't. Know did when
you were in, radio did it scratch an itch for?
You maybe scratching itch like an itch you didn't know
you had for the attention you would get that's. Personality that's.
WHY i, mean that's it's like an. ITCH i think
everybody would like.
Speaker 5: That who didn't want to work for people you listened
to when you were growing? Up, yeah and that includes
WHEN i went to P X y. Two, Yeah, sazanna
let's be, ninety BECAUSE i was listening to him WHEN
i was like in the freaking seventh.
Speaker 3: Grade. YEAH i don't know how he's not that.
Speaker 5: Old, No i'm just, Kidding but you, KNOW i mean
people like, THAT i, mean you, KNOW i MEAN i got,
to you, know hang With Uncle, raj you Know. Kano you,
know of course we's and stuff like. That so who
what twenty something year old wouldn't want that?
Speaker 3: Job? Right and you got attention from it, too, RIGHT
i mean you became a character in a personality carried
in and.
Speaker 5: Carried for many. Years, yeah it's carried for many.
Speaker 3: Years. Yeah but you, know.
Speaker 5: You, know MY i always think that my calling was
teaching now that you, know as you're doing it now
That i'm in on the, Field i'm in. Now BUT
i wouldn't give. UP i wouldn't give up all those six. Years,
yeah those were, good six good. Years and then we
Went THEN i went over to Tire news AND i
went over. There it was it was great there probably
for the first five six, years and then it sucked
AND i wouldn't leave BECAUSE i WANT i wanted them
to fire me SO i can get my.
Speaker 3: Severance it, works, YEAH i, Mean i'll say that, too
LIKE i had a fun run in, radio AND i
had a real fun run and uh on an episode
that dropped to the day we're tape of, This, Uh
danny AND i did a little memory from thirteen years
ago when we were on the break room together and
we're poking some fun At danny and shit in. There
but it was like it was. Good it was a
lot of work BECAUSE i wanted to win AND i
wanted to be the. Best but even coming up LIKE
i just did whatever the FUCK i. Wanted it's, true
we didn't control it for. NO i LIKE i just
did things LIKE i just would do them and not ask,
permission just see what was going to. Happen AND i
started that WHEN i was In poughkeepsie BECAUSE i got
so fucking bored playing music AND i didn't want to
get yelled at for Playing Dan fogelberg by. Listeners SO i,
thought we're gonna come down with, flaming fucking torches and
burn the place. DOWN i was so nervous that. Night
SO i was, like to, me it was, Like, okay
this is, great but, yeah, MAN i wouldn't change it.
EITHER i, MEAN i had an epic fucking run thirty
years AND i had an epic run AND i made you,
know and it was it was. Fun it was a
lot OF i was sold by, management never. DID i
wasn't meant for that. Job never.
Speaker 5: FORGET i Was Silva. Mansions and then then this is
the same douchebag that fired that that didn't. Fire this
is the same douchebag out of the out of wiis.
Speaker 3: Out of out of his out of his. Job, Yeah
i'll SAY i can say his name. Right, YEAH i don't.
CARE i really don't. CARE i have no problem with.
IT i wasn't sure Really. Yeah and once he, LEFT
i went.
Speaker 5: IN i went To Kevin. Lecgretz kevin mcgrett saw. Something
so this guy saw nothing in, me And kevin mcgrett
saw something in. Me so you know WHAT i, mean
who's more successful the Grets lo grets one of the
most successful people it's ever been in. Radio it's ever
done radio and this guy's and this guy's still In
rochester freaking putting a ship for.
Speaker 3: Man OW.
Speaker 5: I like SEEING i like seeing radio die because all
my friends are out of it. Now most of my
friends are out of it. NOW i LIKE i like
the death THAT i. Seeing it's slowly.
Speaker 3: Dying, YEAH i still, MAN i still. Go if you
brought it back more, local you. Could you could have
something that that would be viable and something to, people
and it would have to be more spoken. Word nobody
gives a. Ship you can get your music, ANYWHERE uh.
Speaker 5: Call it to be able to call a radio station
and request a.
Speaker 3: Song, yeah kids.
Speaker 5: DON'T i was talking WHEN i was talking to the
kids about this because they all, know you, know they
all know THAT i was you, KNOW i told. THEM
i told him about what my track record. WAS i
was in, radio AND i was telling them about calling
up sitting sitting all night waiting for the song.
Speaker 3: That you called.
Speaker 5: Up you called up THE dj waiting young and you
would sit up all night just just to hear that. Song,
right and then when you, know when they give away
prizes you and they give a concent, tickets you would
sit there and listen it was just a different.
Speaker 3: Thing they don't have that. Anymore it was very excit
well because social media and stuff has changed, it and
now it's NOT i don't know where do you win. Tickets.
Maybe i'm sure they still do that with. Radio i'm
sure that's still an incentive for. People BUT i think
that most people are getting the music that they. Want
i've had a guy who, was in my, mind one
of the best to program radio stations play what people
were going to like and respond, to and he said to,
me YouTube music does a better job THAN i could
have ever done with all the research in the. World
you see What i'm. Saying, so, like now we've gotten
to the point WHERE ai just does it, better picks
what you.
Speaker 5: Like i'll go home And i'll THROW i, Mean i'll
drive home And i'll throw on The Mark hillman channel
and it'll. Play it'll play, country it'll play, metal it'll
play you, Know Barry manilo, It i'll play out all
this stuff.
Speaker 3: That and knows THAT i, like, Right and so that's
What i'm, Saying, Like i'm not sure about, music BUT
i do think if you went back to a talk
format that was talking about local stuff in your, PLACE i.
Speaker 5: Mean like like what weise was and they weise was
and they out and they didn't want him.
Speaker 3: Anymore, YEAH i think that there Was they.
Speaker 5: Thought putting you, know they thought putting a ship format
on was more important than freaking a guy that was
the guy that did radio for forty. YEARS i don't,
Know i'm pissed. Off and when you see we were
kind having, THIS i should reach out to.
Speaker 3: HIM i haven't.
Speaker 5: Watched there's a video that's going that's around and it
shows his last his last few hours on the, radio
and it's very very, disturbing and especially us because that's
how most of us you, know you know how what
it's like all of a, sudden you, know for that
to be giving up on all of a, sudden it's like, see,
uh you know you're and they just did.
Speaker 3: It AND i just don't like the.
Speaker 5: Way they did, it especially for all the money that
he made these channels all these years and they don't
give him a.
Speaker 3: Senda fuck. You you know What i'm, Saying it's, like fuck.
Speaker 6: You it Was.
Speaker 3: I'll say this AND i WOULD i would say two
weeks from WHAT i know of behind the scenes stuff
THAT i was, told like there were what they believed
an agreement in place that he had agreed to do, something,
okay and what was happening was the whole station was
going right down the shitter and it was it just
it just wasn't viable, anymore, right, Right so it was
never the same when you. Left maybe maybe. NOT i
have no. IDEA i. Can't it's not What i'm. Saying,
No i'm just, saying but like he's not really doing mornings.
Anymore he's at the, end he's not in the studio,
here he's remote a lot of. Times i'm not saying
that that's bad at. All i'm just saying so the
things had died down and he was getting close to
the end of doing, it just doing it just because
why you, know and everybody retires at some, point so
it was like that was. It, however SO i think
that's how management is seeing. Things and then they're, like,
well what do we do because it's so bad? Now
do we wait and just push this out for a
few more months and lose money or do we try
to hit the new year running and, go, well here
we are and hit first quarter and get into things.
Better AND i think that's the decision they made thinking
they had appeased or made some. Agreement i'm telling you
that's HOW i. Think WHAT i will say to you
is THAT i agree it was the poorest. Execution Brother
wee's was not a guy who was going to really
beat his own chest or be his own advocate in certain.
Situations he would sometimes and and you're gonna hear, this
and he may hear, this and it's not meant this.
WAY i have some like real stories where he just
didn't advocate for wee'z because he wanted to be, syndicated,
Right he wanted to be. SYNDICATED i believe he had
a program that absolutely could have been. Syndicated, yes but
he wasn't gonna be the guy to champion. That Brother
weis wasn't a. Businessman Brother weis was a. Personality Howard
stern is a, businessman AND i know that that sounds, weird,
Yes but the long hair was to make himself look.
Better he was a shock. Jock he went to bed
by eight o'clock every. Night he worked it and did,
that not That we's. Didn't weez's best stuff Was wee's
living his fucking insane, life, Right it's the greatest stuff,
ever all the, stories some of the legendary stories that,
happened everything that went on in his life came to the,
radio even Like sammy being left at the, bus his
whole cancer, battle the kid's calling up In, ryan like
all that. Stuff you cannot no one can duplicate. That
Brother weez was unduplicatable. Period, however he didn't want to
do the work that the business side. Required so years
later he AND i go to this big radio thing
it was Called Morning show Boot, camp and we're meeting
with his, agent who has since. Passed and the guy
was also the agent For opie And anthony And, No
Howard lapedes was a, manager not an agent so, much
AND i think he. Did he was like the owner
of The Man. Show that's why they had The Man
show round. Two and it Was Joe rogan and, god
Who's thegether comic that did? It No, CoA he was the,
original but that Was Howard. Lapedis And howard also was
the guy who Took Carson dally off UH k rock
IN la and Now Carson dally whether he wants to
agree with it or. Not the first exposure to television
AND mtv came From howard lapedis who and now the
guy's on The Today, SHOW i believe right, today AND
i think he's still ows radio. Stuff, okay so all
that shit came out of Of. Howard but this guy
was Opiing anthony's agent AND i my wife at the,
time AND i sat down because we's wanted to be,
syndicated and they were doing a panel at this thing
where guys were coming up and, saying how do you
know what they did to maintain their? Syndication, okay because
there's a lot throughout the. Country one of the people
brother we talked about for years and loved was a
guy Named Kid, kratick WHO i had gotten to know
a little bit, too and has since. Passed. Uh But
kid owned and syndicated his own. Show But kid would
literally work himself to the point where he was ill
AND i have to take, off like you would get
bronchitis so. Bad but he would just not sleep and
he would just work and work and. Work so my
wife really helps, me AND i should say probably more
than me put this syndication package. Together it was. EXCELLENT
i present it over breakfast to his. Agent his agent
looks at it and goes this is. Great he, goes
do you mind IF i steal some of this For
opie And anthony to format their. Thing he, GOES i
think this is so. GOOD i would like to use
the format for own a who then did go into. Syndication.
RIGHT i go with. Brother we's to the syndication. Panel
we're sitting. There guys come out and, go, hey We're
bubba and. Somebody you. Know we're on a bunch of
markets in The. South and one guy, goes, YEAH i
got my pilot's, license so we could just fly into
some of the. Markets so, like because we're in different
parts Of, Texas, louisiana blah blah. Blah so we would
go for a, day we would go to the, station
we'll do a, broadcast we'll do a thing that, night,
whatever and then the next day it just hop in
the plane AND i fly home SO i can be
with my. Family another, guy another, guy gets up and
he's an urban. Station they're on urban. Stations what we
could call, it what it is was black right, people
mostly to black, people urban. Stations so this guy gets
up and, goes, YEAH i got this, show and we're,
syndicated and we're down here and we're based In, atlanta
but we're on all these other. PLACES i have designed
basically a tour, boss and we will go town to
town and do, things and every weekend we're in some
other town making an appearance. Whatever and all of a,
SUDDEN i, hear brah brh is too much work for the.
Weison i'm gonna go outside of me and listening to this.
Shit AND i knew right then and there fucking syndication was.
Over so What i'm trying to say is he needed
somebody to handle the business. Side he was as, good
if not better than anybody who sat behind a. MICROPHONE
i will not dispute that he wasn't good at the business.
Side he didn't want to deal with, it and that's
what he, needed was somebody who could do. That and
that was sort of WHO i was for him a little,
bit and we got him. On he was on WHILE
i was producing the. Show we were on In, buffalo
and they would tape delay the show right so they
would run it After, howard so it Was Howard Brother
weez and THEN i forget what the app it might
have Been ona in the. AFTERNOON i don't even. Know
that was the talk format In buffalo and it was going,
well and it was doing, well and it was like,
okay AND i was trying to get him on In
syracuse AND i remember this guy going to. ME i,
go you've got people in two different cities that this,
company AND i don't remember what company, was was trying
to bring together to do a morning. Show they were,
like one guy was IN i don't Know vermont and
another guy's In, philly and they were talking like they
were in the same, studio but they. Weren't it's CALLED isdn.
Lines AND i said to the. Guy he, goes, well
how would you deliver the show to us In? SYRACUSE
i SAID. Dn he, Goes we're already paying FOR. DN i, go,
no you're paying for two IS. Dns he, goes WHAT i,
go you got two guys in two different cities doing
your morning. Show you're paying for TWO. DNS i, go
you'd be paying for ONE Dn with the brother we
show and he'll come down and do appearances and. Things
that's an hour. Away and the guy was sort of
like back on his heels a little. Bit and THEN
i don't know whatever happened to it after, that But
i'll just NEVER i just knew that there wasn't gonna
happen When weas leaned over and goes b he's work
for the, weeds And i'm, like you know him right,
Right i'm not making that story. Up that's a real.
Story and my only point with it, is so, now
what should have happened is we should have said at
some point this is my last year to, them, right
this is my last, year or someone from weesus camp
he is gonna. Leave let's send him out on the
biggest thing. Ever let's get every, personality every celebrity who's
ever been on his show to call, in video, in
fly in if we. Can let's have a huge send.
Off let's do a live. Show let's rent out a
fucking theater and let's do the last show. Live it'll
be the biggest thing and we can sell the shit
out of it and make a ton of. Money that's
what they should have, done and they didn't fucking do.
It And i'll say part of the reason they didn't
do it is because the company that owns them now
is too big and everybody is working multiple. Jobs the
person in charge Of rochester is in part charge Of, Rochester,
Syracuse albany And. SUSSEX i don't miss. THAT i don't miss.
THAT i mean, So i'm just, saying like so they're
not thinking that, way but somebody From weez's camp should have, gone, hey,
man this guy has meant so much to this city
that he's in that he originated. In he's meant so
much he. HAD i, mean, who there's No Sam. Kennison
kennison was like he was tight With howard And, weez
AND i think he Liked weez. More if he he
was In, toronto he came down and did THE We.
Show if he was In, syracuse he came up and
did THE We. Show if he was In rach Obviously,
buffalo he would always come to The Wei show and
do that. Show he Loved Brother. We's that is a.
Personality that's a warmth That Brother we's. HAD i don't
know Why i'm ranting on my podcast about, this BUT
i get passionate. Too BUT i can see both. SIDES
i get it management has their head up their ass
because they're spread too thin. Now But we'z was also
the guy that didn't work the business, side and so
you get that's where the problem. Lies AND i wish
there was somebody on his team that had walked over and,
gone this is, it, man we're talking a fucking, legend,
literally a radio.
Speaker 5: LEGEND i think that the management should that should have Been.
Speaker 3: NO i don't think they think that. Way AND i
think that some of them were too new and didn't
know and are so caught. Up and, yes should they. Have,
yes from a business side that makes fucking, money yes
they should. Have you are. Right the person's there has,
been has been there and knows the value of what this.
Was BUT i think it also is getting is getting
pressure from above that's going what happened? Here? Guys you're
not even fucking close to meeting your. Budget this whole
station's in the fucking. Toilet the ratings are the Worst
i've ever. Seen, WELL i even turn on the fucking.
Microphones what are we doing? Here AND i think that
that kind of thinking fox up their head and it
should have been done, differently and they could have Had
i'm telling, you, man you rent out that you could
have rented out The kodak theater that maybe you know
a little, bit but you could have had a just
a fucking beautiful send, off a really, amazing amazing tribute
and that's the that's the. Miss that to, me and
that's the, mess right and that and now you've got
two factions of a of a thing that some that
the little point fingers can call each other. Assholes, yeah you,
know so all, right we'll wrap it. Up, SORRY i
didn't mean. To, no it's. Good, no it's good because
it was really pissing me. Off, WELL i mean it
should AND i get, it BUT i also say a
little bit and nobody else will say this is it's
a little bit on him and his team of. PEOPLE
i knew what he. Was it's doo what it worked
for the, Weeks. OKAY i can hear him saying, yeah
but he leaned over and then he got up and
left the fucking, conference just walked, out just walked. Out
And i'm sitting there going the. Fuck we just put
together the syndication. Package it took for fucking ever to.
Do it was so. Good your agent's using it FOR
o AND. A they're in the number one radio Market
New York. City and you're not gonna do this and
this is all you wanted to, do you know WHAT i?
Mean but, EVERYONE i got my pilot's. License we fly
to This. MARIO i bought a. Bus we decorated it
with all our, faces were all that we drive his,
School Duck, towns him going out of. Bus, no but,
yeah you know What i'm. SAYING i, mean it's just
it was the way it. Was and that's All i'm
saying is he wasn't gonna do that and in this
and WHEN i see what happened at the end AND
i called, him AND i think it was it was
a Huge let's put it this. WAY i could say it's,
criminal it, hurts it's all that. Stuff let's take feelings
out of. It let's just talk. Business they fucked up
an opportunity for them to make a lot of. Money they.
Did they fucked up an opportunity and so good For.
Wheeze And i'm glad he's telling his side of. Things
and you, know to hold back, Now, mark absolutely, not
absolutely not for the. Soldier this is. Fun, Yeah, Yes
i'm glad to hear. That, yes, yes we did have.
Fun I'm Bill. Moran we'll see you. Tomorrow