Speaker 1: Lady and gentleman for feel not on video right before
Speaker 1: in line, like you guys ready to do this? And
Speaker 1: I guess Dylan reach for something. Okay, but from the
Speaker 1: way the camera is looking, you just look like you
Speaker 1: walked right off. So I was like, you could have said, hey,
Speaker 1: just give us this, just give me a minute, but
Speaker 1: you're just gone. I was like, okay, he's he's ready
Speaker 1: or not. But I'm mcclown, Prince of Beatles Trash. Now
Speaker 1: I'm joined.
Speaker 2: By Hey, I am I had a nickname? What was
Speaker 2: the recently diseased Dilmas deceased? I am the bjbjbj taylor
Speaker 2: Field vid.
Speaker 1: All that out three times something appeal one of those
Speaker 1: big sandworms though instead but uh, yes, they show him
Speaker 1: we are here because by time this comes out next week, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice,
Speaker 1: the sequel will be out for this film home and yes,
Speaker 1: we are doing a retrospective for Gosh, I didn't get
Speaker 1: the year. I know it's before eighty nine.
Speaker 2: I think it's eighty eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, eighty eight, it's the year before Batman
Speaker 1: eighty nine.
Speaker 2: So I realized I hadn't got my ticket until four
Speaker 2: seconds ago. And there's only like three or four seats left,
Speaker 2: so I just barely snuck in there for the early one.
Speaker 2: So that worked out nicely.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the next cast. When we talk about
Speaker 1: news or whether it's the box office draft, because this
Speaker 1: is a movie they'll just build. Juice is apparently just
Speaker 1: like tracking super well. Like if you I say, I
Speaker 1: think be and Taylor I got the news when we're
Speaker 1: waiting in line for I think it was Alien ron
Speaker 1: List and it's like supposed to be at least like
Speaker 1: minimum do twenty million better than the Flashed It a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Michael Keaton. And if you had
Speaker 1: told me that when those two movies are being produced, like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Flash has in the bag between the Keen movies,
Speaker 1: and I like, I don't know if it's just this franchise.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's also has General Taga, who's
Speaker 1: like a hot news star. It's just that it's tracking
Speaker 1: I think like a sixty eight, like a really good,
Speaker 1: like top ten opening weekend for this year. It's just
Speaker 1: like I have my money on that for Beetlejuice. I
Speaker 1: really didn't you know, for.
Speaker 3: You, Dylan, you drafted it that is good.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that is great. I mean, I think it
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense because Wednesday was such a
Speaker 2: huge show and people want that more Burton or Tega
Speaker 2: combo situation, so that makes sense. But then you also, like,
Speaker 2: I feel like you're hitting that younger market there, but
Speaker 2: then you're also hitting that like nostalgia market as well.
Speaker 2: So I think a lot of movies that have come
Speaker 2: out recent like Indiana Jones, which didn't do great, like
Speaker 2: maybe that was only serving one audience and not like
Speaker 2: the younger audience potentially, So something like this I think
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. It's kind of hitting different
Speaker 2: different markets, so that's that's cool. I'm glad to hear
Speaker 2: that it's potentially going to do pretty well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I said, I'd kind of lost faith
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, did do people just not care?
Speaker 1: I think you're right with the younger stuff, but I
Speaker 1: still even thought with Keenan, I'm like, God, if people
Speaker 1: don't care about him because the flash happened, but clearly
Speaker 1: they do, but they don't.
Speaker 2: Maybe they don't even really see him in this.
Speaker 1: Role, you know, could be they just like beatle Geist,
Speaker 1: you know. So which speaking of seeing I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: to mister Musk because he is one of two people
Speaker 1: on this cast. You know, Kirkna was supposed to be here,
Speaker 1: but you know, not here. But he's one or two
Speaker 1: peel and geekers had not seen Pale Juice. So this movie, yeah,
Speaker 1: now what thirty years? God, yeah, over thirty years since
Speaker 1: this has come out.
Speaker 2: Now has my Matt approaching?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, that is insane to think about that.
Speaker 1: But obviously Tim Burton directed this. This was kind of
Speaker 1: in the middle, in the middle or the beginning of
Speaker 1: him like really blowing up, because this is before like
Speaker 1: Edwards their hands and Batman. I think this is one
Speaker 1: of the This is one of those starts where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is who's this guy? And then you got Keaton,
Speaker 1: you want a Ryder, you got Catherine O'Hara, you got
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin, Gina Davis, just a very stacked cast of
Speaker 1: people of the era. So obviously it's an older movie. Deal.
Speaker 1: So how did this uh, how'd this work for you
Speaker 1: watching this in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it it eluded me. I
Speaker 2: mean I remember growing up watching Adam's family a lot
Speaker 2: like that was a family thing, and so I wonder
Speaker 2: where the differentiation was between that and this. I, like
Speaker 2: I've said many times on Coopers, I was very like
Speaker 2: easily frightened child, and I think this looked like a
Speaker 2: scary thing, and so I just like had no interest.
Speaker 2: But I like, really, the only memory I have is
Speaker 2: just like maybe my sister was watching it and I
Speaker 2: had like walked through the room or something like that
Speaker 2: and it seemed scary or something, so I didn't I
Speaker 2: didn't stick around to watch it. So yeah, it's it's
Speaker 2: eluded me forever. And I just really liked the trailers
Speaker 2: for the new one more when we got into like
Speaker 2: the weird zany stuff that seemed really fun to me.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I just watched it a couple hours ago,
Speaker 2: so I'm pretty fresh on it. And uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm like, I'm I'm not neutral, but like
Speaker 2: I liked it, but I didn't. I didn't love it.
Speaker 2: There's nothing that I particularly disliked, but I guess I'm
Speaker 2: just not super hot on it. I don't think it
Speaker 2: was like super funny, although it definitely had like a
Speaker 2: few funny moments. I think my favorite part is just
Speaker 2: the aesthetic of it, like the combination of the miniature,
Speaker 2: the miniature set up the diorama mixed with like the
Speaker 2: actual town and then all the crazy the creatures and characters,
Speaker 2: and like the visual effects. I think this is like
Speaker 2: the perfect amount of like early special effects that actually,
Speaker 2: like the jankiness fits perfectly for the movie. I love
Speaker 2: that the new one, at least from the trailers, is
Speaker 2: like trying to recapture that in a way. I feel
Speaker 2: like it's doing a really good job of capturing that
Speaker 2: early kind of janky CGI that isn't too refined and polished.
Speaker 2: I think that in terms of the stories, like nothing
Speaker 2: too special there, but it was good enough. I love
Speaker 2: the cast in here. I think it's really fun. Everyone's
Speaker 2: really well cast. There's some really fun sequences. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a good time to come to it. I
Speaker 2: don't know what I really expected from it, and I
Speaker 2: guess I maybe just expected to like it a little
Speaker 2: bit more than I did, but I still had a
Speaker 2: decent time. I don't see it as one that I
Speaker 2: will be revisiting, though that's like very often. At least
Speaker 2: it's not gonna go in my Halloween rotation on the
Speaker 2: yearly basis.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, mister Field, where were you the first time
Speaker 1: you saw it?
Speaker 3: And then today the first time I saw this movie,
Speaker 3: I I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 4: And I don't even think I saw it all the
Speaker 4: way through. I think that this is the.
Speaker 3: First time I've actually sat down and committed and actually
Speaker 3: watched the entire thing. I think I've had many times
Speaker 3: where I've started it, I just haven't finished it. Not
Speaker 3: because I've been bored. I think I just have other
Speaker 3: things I just kind of pop up and I got
Speaker 3: to do. This has never been one that I've been
Speaker 3: racing to see, and it's not one that I ever
Speaker 3: really watched as a kid. Yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 3: really the hang up is, but I've always been familiar
Speaker 3: with it. I've always recognized the scenes when I see
Speaker 3: them in like memes or random clips here and there.
Speaker 3: And the music as well. I've always just like like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's a Beatle juice. And I really love the score
Speaker 3: in this movie. I there's the main theme is great.
Speaker 3: I really really love it. Yeah, And I just think
Speaker 3: after watching it now though it's it's not something again,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: I'll add to my Halloween rotation.
Speaker 3: As you put that, Dylan, It's not something I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be racing to rewatch anytime soon, but it's one that
Speaker 3: I definitely I got a kick out of it. And
Speaker 3: I like Michael Keaton a lot in this role. I
Speaker 3: feel like he's just fucking balls the walls crazy in this.
Speaker 3: And I can't remember what the interview was, but he
Speaker 3: was on this talk show and he was talking about
Speaker 3: beetlejuice and this this guy.
Speaker 4: Calls him over.
Speaker 3: I can't remember if they were like behind the scenes
Speaker 3: somewhere on another film project or whatnot, but they call
Speaker 3: Michael Keaton over and like, you gotta look at this,
Speaker 3: And they bring Michael Keaton to this guy and he
Speaker 3: shows them this huge detailed tattoo. Michael Keaton's say, this
Speaker 3: is the most detailed beal juice tatto I've ever seen
Speaker 3: in my life. And the guy like flexes his arm
Speaker 3: out and he looks over Michael Keaton.
Speaker 4: He says, are you done?
Speaker 3: And he gets up and walks away, and Michael Keaton
Speaker 3: starts laughing because the guy had no idea that he
Speaker 3: was beeal juice.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: But his character that he delivers in this role just outstanding.
Speaker 3: He's crazy. He's zany, he's wonky. When he's like changing
Speaker 3: clothes trying to keep the Uh oh, why can't I
Speaker 3: remember the family's name.
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, not them, ah.
Speaker 1: The Maitland's the dead people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the dead people.
Speaker 3: So they're trying to walk away and call off the deal,
Speaker 3: and like Bealg's just changes clothes to look like like
Speaker 3: Baldwin's characters.
Speaker 1: Like we're shopping the same story over the.
Speaker 4: Same and he's trying to like.
Speaker 3: Personate them, and uh, there's a lot of inappropriate things
Speaker 3: I don't think would we're necessarily fly by, Like when
Speaker 3: they're talking and he's like lifting up the girl's skirt
Speaker 3: and he's like leaning back and he's being like zany
Speaker 3: about it, like, oh, I don't know if it's Saney,
Speaker 3: but he's just weird, and he's like hugging Alec Baldwin
Speaker 3: but then touching her backside, like a lot of interpropriate
Speaker 3: things I wouldn't fly but just his his angriness and
Speaker 3: and stuff. I love the character because he's just such
Speaker 3: a uncomfortable character, and you get like evil dead effects
Speaker 3: thrown in here too, which I can really appreciate because
Speaker 3: it's it's uh, weirdly gross and freaky, but it's just
Speaker 3: it's just, yeah, it just feels like a Tim Burton
Speaker 3: movie at its core, and I really.
Speaker 4: Do like it a lot.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So for me, I couldn't really tell you
Speaker 1: the first time I've seen it because I feel like
Speaker 1: this is one of those movies. I have a handful
Speaker 1: of movies that just it's like I was programmed and
Speaker 1: they're just like he saw Beetlejuice and that was it.
Speaker 1: Like I don't have a distinct memory. I've seen this
Speaker 1: too many times account that is a Halloween rotation. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I watch it again for this, but I'll probably watch
Speaker 1: again come this fall. But this is definitely one of
Speaker 1: my favorites in this type of genre, like i'd like
Speaker 1: horror comedy because like I would never really call this
Speaker 1: a horror movie, but it is in that route where Okay,
Speaker 1: we're using ghost we're using dead people, we're using gross
Speaker 1: things too for comedica event if anything, I guess I
Speaker 1: would call like a comedy horror. I know it sounds stupid,
Speaker 1: but I there is almost like a differential between the
Speaker 1: two where like Scream, you know it's this ghost face killer,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of you know, pop culture references
Speaker 1: or lots of almost tongue in cheek references to movie
Speaker 1: making everything like that right where this is comedic in
Speaker 1: the Guys of Okay, a spooky ghost type Poltergeist movie.
Speaker 1: And no, so I can't remember it, just I know
Speaker 1: it's been in my life, my whole life. I think
Speaker 1: I probably saw it at a younger age because even
Speaker 1: though there are some inappropriate things, which what you're referring to, Taylor,
Speaker 1: mikele Kan seems to say in the sequel that they're
Speaker 1: not not doing those things in this one because they said, like, well,
Speaker 1: beal Juice shouldn't really be a politically correct character. And
Speaker 1: I do agree with that, because at the end, the
Speaker 1: beal Juice is like the ends up being the villain
Speaker 1: of the movie. Right. I think in the sequel he
Speaker 1: might work with the heroes a little bit, but I
Speaker 1: still don't think he's gonna have redemption art where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: beal Juice is a good guy now, you know. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be like, well, let's work together, and
Speaker 1: then I put the genie back in the bottle again. Right,
Speaker 1: So I think for me because I feel like it's
Speaker 1: similar to a Shrek situation where if you're a certain age,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get certain references or certain things. You're
Speaker 1: just help Beatle Juice is a weird guy or just
Speaker 1: even like Lydia Deats's character mentioned suicide multiple times, right,
Speaker 1: And I watched it with my kids, and luckily they
Speaker 1: don't pick up on that stuff. So that's why I
Speaker 1: think probably as a kid that light goosebumps are afraid
Speaker 1: of dark's. I'm sure my parents just put this in
Speaker 1: the rotation at some point, being like, well, it's even then.
Speaker 1: I was watching Chucky Nightmare and Elmstry and stuff like
Speaker 1: that as a kid, but at a younger age, I'm
Speaker 1: sure just gone in there, and no, I enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I think it's like a nice brisk like ninety minutes,
Speaker 1: doesn't overstay, it's welcome. I think the plot is like
Speaker 1: if you so, I love this movie and enjoyment wise,
Speaker 1: I really have no critiques this. I was trying to watch, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: how did I think about this as like a reviewer,
Speaker 1: because I've never watched Beetle Juice that way, And there
Speaker 1: is some stuff with the story. It's like they never
Speaker 1: really explain and some people are like, oh, that's why
Speaker 1: it's great, But it's like they never really explain like
Speaker 1: half the things with Beatle Juice and why he's doing
Speaker 1: what he needs to do or the rules of this world.
Speaker 1: Why is he doing things like you know, taking tea
Speaker 1: set of people's mouth or doing this. But he can't
Speaker 1: just snap his fingers just make them go away or die.
Speaker 1: There's all these things, like even like with the afterlife,
Speaker 1: there's all these rules and regulations, and at one point like, well,
Speaker 1: you've got to get those people out of your house,
Speaker 1: but like why really, you know, why does it even
Speaker 1: matter really if the humans know about you? You know,
Speaker 1: they talk about the hand. But but so there is
Speaker 1: little strings along the way where it's like they just
Speaker 1: kind of throw stuff out there, I think, just to
Speaker 1: give you some steaks. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's almost like if you were to add more exposition
Speaker 1: and more stuff to that, you might lose some of
Speaker 1: the fun of this movie. And I don't really want that.
Speaker 1: This is this was like I think it was a
Speaker 1: mind f for me because I grew up Austin Keaton
Speaker 1: as Batman and that's when he has the mask off,
Speaker 1: has the hair I think even to this day, I
Speaker 1: know it's Ketan, but it has the effect of like
Speaker 1: he Fledger's Joker, and I don't think it's just goes
Speaker 1: to white paint. I don't see Michael keat when I
Speaker 1: watched this movie. I hear him sometimes, but I just
Speaker 1: don't ever put the two and two together. I think
Speaker 1: this go around is a little bit different because he
Speaker 1: has age. I can see it a bit more. But
Speaker 1: with the makeup and the style and like the even
Speaker 1: they give him like a body shape to give him
Speaker 1: make a bit heavier. I can just take the characters
Speaker 1: and parsect them away from each other, and I think
Speaker 1: that always helps. And he's just such a fun character.
Speaker 1: The writing, the visuals, all the gigs. He's just a
Speaker 1: disgusting low life but you just kind of always want
Speaker 1: to see him, which is just funny because he's only
Speaker 1: in the movie for fourteen minutes and thirty seconds, like
Speaker 1: movie's named after him, but he is really not Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not. And I think the sequel apparently the same way.
Speaker 1: Whether he's not that much, and I think that's probably
Speaker 1: for the best because I think Beatle Juice like off
Speaker 1: so you can make the argument and they Deadpool this year,
Speaker 1: big movie, but that's something a little bit different because
Speaker 1: that character can be endearing as a good guy. I
Speaker 1: think if you have Beatle Juice, who is a post
Speaker 1: or heroes in it too much, it could be a
Speaker 1: character that greats on you. So it's great and small
Speaker 1: doses and yeah, Keiden to do this and then Batman,
Speaker 1: like a year apart from each other. Just incredible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the rest of the cast is good. I love alat
Speaker 1: of the dark humor. I love a lot of the
Speaker 1: subtle humor, just little moments, even if it's like with
Speaker 1: the realtor at the beginning of the movie. I'm not
Speaker 1: like belly aching laughing. But I have a good time
Speaker 1: at this also, And yeah, you guys mentioned the score
Speaker 1: is absolutely it just does a good ambience. I remember
Speaker 1: the first time, not the first time, but just when
Speaker 1: I started to pick up on this stuff and watching
Speaker 1: it last night, when they when Adam and oh god,
Speaker 1: what's her character's name? Now, I'm forgetting it. I gotta
Speaker 1: pull it up here, Genie days. But anyways, when they
Speaker 1: go speak to the you know, hand book people, and
Speaker 1: they come back to the house and they walk in
Speaker 1: and just quiet and you have this kind of creepy
Speaker 1: but revelation type of score going on. Barbara, thank you.
Speaker 1: It all works and it all sounds similar, but there's
Speaker 1: always new stuff going on. And this is in the
Speaker 1: nineties when Danny Elfman is like at the height of
Speaker 1: his power. Is he He's doing this, He's about to
Speaker 1: do Batman, He's about to do Night and before Christmas, Like,
Speaker 1: there's so many classics coming up for him. So yeah,
Speaker 1: all around, this is definitely one of my Burden favorites.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'd have to think about it. It
Speaker 1: might be other than Batman Returns. It might be my
Speaker 1: favorite Burden movie, So I take the Batman bias of it. It
Speaker 1: might be my favorite. Actually I'm thinking about it because
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of other ones of bird movies
Speaker 1: that I really enjoy. But yeah, no, this gets all
Speaker 1: high marks for me. So I'm a big fan of Beetlejuice,
Speaker 1: and I'm cautiously excited for the sequel because I feel
Speaker 1: like the seaquel. Could you never know of these legacy
Speaker 1: sequels how much they venture, Like even like Alien Rommels
Speaker 1: I think was a good one, but even at times
Speaker 1: you go, okay, you did too much. This is a
Speaker 1: movie I could see almost doing too much the whole time.
Speaker 1: But I really, I really don't know, because I know
Speaker 1: there's lots of stuff out there, but other than the future,
Speaker 1: as we've talked about for cast, I have tried to
Speaker 1: avoid them. So it's interesting.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about that a little bit,
Speaker 2: just because I don't know. I mean, I've talked to
Speaker 2: you on for hundreds of hours, probably about movies, and
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't really think of you as
Speaker 2: a Beetlejuice fan or super fan, and I wonder if
Speaker 2: it's just you know, we talk about so many things.
Speaker 1: I can I definitely say super fany thing, But.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I'm kind of I'm maybe more
Speaker 2: surprised that you haven't been more looking forward to this
Speaker 2: throughout the year and aren't super excited even now, given
Speaker 2: that you love it so much.
Speaker 1: I think again, I know he's in a little bit
Speaker 1: as bad as it sounds, I'm mostly excited just to
Speaker 1: see Keatan again because I just know he can kill it,
Speaker 1: and he hasn't lost that. I think it's just because
Speaker 1: now we live in age where there's been so many meh
Speaker 1: legacy sequels or you know, sequels that take a long time,
Speaker 1: like we just talked about a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: The Credibles too, right, Like we've all been down that road.
Speaker 1: So it's like the thing of I've always wanted a
Speaker 1: Beatle Juice too, but at the same time, I know
Speaker 1: the risks you can fall down. And also because like
Speaker 1: sure he did Wednesday, but it's not like Tim Burns
Speaker 1: has been killing it for the last decade. He's had
Speaker 1: a lot of like a couple of misses. So that's
Speaker 1: where luckily it's like it had its premiere at the
Speaker 1: Fenness Film Festival. It's getting good reviews, but I still
Speaker 1: need to really sit back and wait because if it's
Speaker 1: just a movie that's just doing a bunch of references
Speaker 1: and looting an eye winking to the first one, and
Speaker 1: even then the same thing that like, what's what does
Speaker 1: Beele Juice want this time? You know, I don't need
Speaker 1: to be after Jenner or Tay or something like, I
Speaker 1: just I don't know. It's because I also just think
Speaker 1: of Beetlejuice when I've watched this movie. I want more.
Speaker 1: But at the same time it kind of ends in
Speaker 1: like a perfect way. There's just even stuff like can
Speaker 1: of sequel, how do you bring back out? Like, what
Speaker 1: is your excuse for not bringing back Alc Balm and
Speaker 1: Geena Davis? They're ghosts, right, How are they not?
Speaker 4: In my spears? Right, They're supposed to still be there, I.
Speaker 1: Know, but so how are they not in this movie?
Speaker 2: And it looks like the dad I don't know if
Speaker 2: he's uh, he's dead, really.
Speaker 4: Funeral that they're holding for us. Yes, he's the grampa right.
Speaker 2: Uh, yes, wicked Peter right now. And it does not
Speaker 2: say that I say.
Speaker 1: What that he's dead? Not in real life, he's dead
Speaker 1: in the movie. They open up with that could that
Speaker 1: actor Okay, okay, that actors had a lot of bad
Speaker 1: legal issues, Yes, to do with.
Speaker 2: Other age timdy bean. He hasn't been in stuff lately,
Speaker 2: so that explains that it was.
Speaker 1: Illegal issues with underaged people. So you get blacklisted very quickly.
Speaker 1: So that's yeah, So that's why they killed this character
Speaker 1: off and they put that out there very early, like
Speaker 1: this character is not coming back. So that was an
Speaker 1: unfortunate thing. But that's where it's just like the same
Speaker 1: thing when I watched this movie, it's kind of not
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say perfect as an ending. It's just
Speaker 1: kind of like perfect is like, yeah, what more do
Speaker 1: you do? Like and this is where I have it
Speaker 1: in the trivia. But they tried many times, Like in
Speaker 1: the nineties they were writing a Beetle Juice goes Hawaiian
Speaker 1: and Kevin Smith talked about it, but like they got
Speaker 1: a bunch of writers on there to try and crack it,
Speaker 1: and they just never could. And I remember Kem Smith
Speaker 1: tells a story when they sat him down and he's
Speaker 1: working warm bers. They're like, we really want you to
Speaker 1: write bele Juice. He's like, didn't they say everything they
Speaker 1: kind of need to say with beeal Juice? And I've
Speaker 1: kind of taken that approach beal Juice of like I
Speaker 1: love beal Juice, but it's like, yeah, what can't other
Speaker 1: than seeing Keyden again, It's like, what can you do
Speaker 1: with this? That's like a compelling story And that's what
Speaker 1: exciting about the sequel but this But I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, do people like this movie because it has
Speaker 2: a compelling story. I don't know if that's the case.
Speaker 2: I think it's just true these any characters, funny visuals,
Speaker 2: kind of a weird setting where there's always like like
Speaker 2: there's even like one scene in this where they you know,
Speaker 2: they go into the afterlife area they're looking through and
Speaker 2: there's like a you open the door, like all the
Speaker 2: excise the exercise extra how do you.
Speaker 1: Call exercise exercise semens?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's just like a little passing thing. But
Speaker 2: it's like if you want to, like you could dig
Speaker 2: into that and that could be interesting and lower thing
Speaker 2: you could discover. And I feel like there's a lot
Speaker 2: of little breadcrumbs like that to just do anything with them.
Speaker 2: Once again, if it's just like a short, lighthearted movie,
Speaker 2: doesn't need to be some some crazy plot. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that it hasn't happened until this point,
Speaker 2: but I guess I'm attle surprised that they've had so
Speaker 2: much trouble getting it off the ground. I suppose I.
Speaker 1: Think you're right with a story that I think maybe
Speaker 1: it's more so just like can they for the people
Speaker 1: love this kind of reek capture the magic in a sense, right,
Speaker 1: because that's a good thing. Like the whole movie. I'd say,
Speaker 1: i'd have to look when beal Juice comes in. But
Speaker 1: like they frame like there's a lot of mystery in
Speaker 1: this movie, right, like when they die. The first act
Speaker 1: is in figuring out that they're dead, right, and then
Speaker 1: after it's who's Beetlejuice? And then what do we do
Speaker 1: with this family? You can do the family thing again,
Speaker 1: but you're dead and the Beetlejuice thing, that mystery's gone, right,
Speaker 1: Like you can't build up like who's this beetlegeis guy
Speaker 1: and what it's especially in this movie, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: my own a rider who was alive being to gener
Speaker 1: or Taia being like, hey, don't say Beetlejuice because X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z happens and it's really bad, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing where think's just a magic thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like again I do love beal Juice. I
Speaker 1: don't think i'd have like my top one hundred movies,
Speaker 1: but like it's for how it's a movie that is
Speaker 1: watched once a year in the household and the kids
Speaker 1: really love it too. Now, so right, yeah love it?
Speaker 1: What are you? Oh good?
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say it's it's it's funny to think.
Speaker 3: About how the fact that in the eighties eighty eight,
Speaker 3: when Michael Keaton did beal Juice and then a year
Speaker 3: difference he plays Batman. Jump ahead to where we are
Speaker 3: now and he plays Batman again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then your difference he plays Beal Juice.
Speaker 1: It's just it's how did it all work out? And
Speaker 1: what does he do next? I'm trying to think he
Speaker 1: plays mister mom again or a duplicity, you know, That's
Speaker 1: what I was gonna ask you. How do you feel
Speaker 1: because I feel like we've talked about this before where
Speaker 1: I feel just ket in general is like a blind
Speaker 1: spot in your like I feel like all the movies
Speaker 1: you had seen in your like other like what are
Speaker 1: the like? I feel like we talked about during Homecoming
Speaker 1: time because when he was the Vulture villain and it
Speaker 1: was like for us that have grew with Beal Juice
Speaker 1: and Batman's like, oh this is really cool. But like obviously,
Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm not go I don't think
Speaker 1: you're gonna come with some hot take being like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's awful in this movie, but what do you think
Speaker 1: about in this movie from what you've seen him in
Speaker 1: the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to I mean, Birdman comes to like growing.
Speaker 1: Up, like, what are you another Guys fan with.
Speaker 2: A thing called tenacious d Time Fixers a music video.
Speaker 2: He's into Tenacious D music video.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: I have to go check that out.
Speaker 1: Were you another guy's fan with Will Ferrell Mark Walburn?
Speaker 1: That like cop comedy.
Speaker 2: He's the captain and that, Yeah he's a captain.
Speaker 1: You know he's in.
Speaker 2: Well, Jackie Brown, I would have seen recently. I don't
Speaker 2: even remember him being in Jackie Brown.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that either.
Speaker 2: We gotta reretro that one. Yeah, so yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: I guess I know.
Speaker 1: I remember b I checked. I thought you said Jackie
Speaker 1: Moon like the I did not say Jackie Maine. I
Speaker 1: thought you meant the Will What was that Wilfare basketball movie?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it might be familiar.
Speaker 1: Semi pro. Yeah that's what I thought. Yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: jack But now I thought you said semi pro like
Speaker 1: he's in that movie.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, So I don't know if I really have
Speaker 2: a lot of touchdowns to him in like a nostalgic way.
Speaker 2: I guess. But yeah, I mean I think I think
Speaker 2: he's very fun. I like the eccentric noss of it.
Speaker 2: I think this movie is really I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: really going for like the random humor, which is always
Speaker 2: like okay, like is this funny or is it just
Speaker 2: so random that your mind just kind of spaghettifies at
Speaker 2: some certain point. So I do think he's really fun.
Speaker 2: I like the visual forum, as Taylor said, like the
Speaker 2: sexual harassment stuff of it like doesn't add anything to
Speaker 2: this movie. It's just like, Okay, we're really doing that.
Speaker 2: Like even it's gross and interesting what you said about
Speaker 2: the father character, because I even noticed in this movie
Speaker 2: like spanksman on a rioter's ass like at some point,
Speaker 2: which is like extra extra disgusting thinking about everything naturally.
Speaker 1: Well, between that and like did you ever have you
Speaker 1: ever seen Ferris Bueller a day off or whatever?
Speaker 2: I have seen that at some point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he plays the principal that's after Ferris Bueller
Speaker 1: the whole time. So it's just certain things like oh man,
Speaker 1: this really sucks, like the framing of it all, you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. It's interesting, as you mentioned there,
Speaker 2: the run time and how or his screen time rather
Speaker 2: relative to runtime. It is cool and I think it's
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see, yuh what they do with
Speaker 2: that with the sequel, because obviously it's a big part
Speaker 2: of why people would want to go, And I think
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people who maybe haven't rewatched the
Speaker 2: movie in a long time, who will probably in their
Speaker 2: brain change that ratio and think, oh, he was intot
Speaker 2: a bunch and that's what the movie is all about him, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe like him and wenonas who they think of or something.
Speaker 2: Then it's like, oh, Alec Baldman, it's really Alec Baldwman,
Speaker 2: Geen and Davis's story.
Speaker 1: And then i'd say went on rights like the third lead,
Speaker 1: you know, like before them.
Speaker 2: So I'm curious how people will feel with that if
Speaker 2: they haven't rewatched it recently and kind of gotten reminded
Speaker 2: of that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: And the Beatle Juice, the Beatles, I don't know with
Speaker 1: the there drop of the Beele just Beetle Juice. The
Speaker 1: Runhouse an hour forty four, so it's about ten minutes
Speaker 1: more so not which I feel like Warrens when you're
Speaker 1: krying to bring back some my classic characters. So I
Speaker 1: think that'll that doesn't seem like, oh my god, like
Speaker 1: if you have Beele Juice in it for this amount
Speaker 1: of time, like it's the same if it was a
Speaker 1: two hour movie, then be like, well you might need
Speaker 1: to have some more juice in there, you know, but.
Speaker 2: A little more juice beetlejuice. But no, I think he's
Speaker 2: a fun character. Born. Yeah, it's a very crazy Zany
Speaker 2: role for sure. So I don't know, I I I
Speaker 2: really enjoyed him for the most part.
Speaker 1: Do you imagine Dylan? Why So back in the day
Speaker 1: when he was cast, it was because of this and
Speaker 1: other things. People legitimately wrote letters to Warner Brothers saying
Speaker 1: why he was like the most awful pick for Batman?
Speaker 1: Could you have seen that? Where like to take some
Speaker 1: of the whiplash of people go see him Beetlejuice and
Speaker 1: he did like some other comedies and stuff, and then
Speaker 1: like it is for me. I think nowadays it's different
Speaker 1: because we tell about actors range, but it is I
Speaker 1: think about like you see this and then someone goes, oh,
Speaker 1: that's the guy's gonna be Batman, you know, like the
Speaker 1: guy that beats up criminals and everything like that. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, people are dumb a lot of times,
Speaker 2: so it doesn't surprise me. But I mean I feel
Speaker 2: like if anyone back in the day had seen him
Speaker 2: in any other movie and then this, then hopefully they
Speaker 2: would have the you know, neurons to be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that's there's some range there. You can do other stuff too,
Speaker 2: But yeah, even like with people shitting on, like Robert
Speaker 2: Pattison as Batman before you had that, and I mean
Speaker 2: some people maybe still don't like that, that rendition, but
Speaker 2: you know, people get things in their mind, like whatever
Speaker 2: an actor's most popular movie is, obviously that's gonna stick
Speaker 2: in a lot more people's minds naturally, So a lot
Speaker 2: of people think it's Twilight when they think of Robert Pattison.
Speaker 2: But he's a great actor who's done a million other
Speaker 2: things too, So I'm sure Michael Keaton's the same thing.
Speaker 2: I can't think if they were, just because I don't
Speaker 2: know him very well. Is his act in history? If
Speaker 2: was there a movie that you would I guess you
Speaker 2: wouldn't have seen anything before that Batman had existed. But
Speaker 2: I don't know, going back and early, is there anything
Speaker 2: that like seems Batman esque?
Speaker 1: And there was like, no, he's all doing this type,
Speaker 1: but he was all doing comedic stuff like throw Mom
Speaker 1: off a train with Dan and Vito, where they like
Speaker 1: make a they make as one of my favorite comedies.
Speaker 1: They make a deal I've seen that movie.
Speaker 2: Actually weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they make a deal to like kill one kill
Speaker 1: each other's mom, and then they either kill each other's girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Like you definitely seen that movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that movie. I learned the other day
Speaker 1: that Dani Filogat nominated for an Oscar for that movie,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. But well, I'm waiting one one year,
Speaker 1: we're gonna find an excuse to make Dylan have to
Speaker 1: watch Keen's Batman because it's still you've not you've actually
Speaker 1: not seen any of those classic Batmans with Kilmore or Clooney.
Speaker 2: Because we're still Adam West.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one day every ten years, we'll make
Speaker 1: them see one that will come to there. So w
Speaker 1: And you know, I think you're more in the keyten
Speaker 1: path where you grew up with him quite a bit.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: If I had to pinpoint my first movie that I
Speaker 3: ever experienced him with, it, I want to say probably Batman,
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't I wouldn't guarantee it.
Speaker 4: I feel like though him being kind of like.
Speaker 3: A more prominent actor than familiar with growing up is
Speaker 3: pretty accurate though. I mean, I feel like I was
Speaker 3: just inclined to his movie, especially when I got older
Speaker 3: like the other guys like doncal Chase and Waterfalls. Like
Speaker 3: you already said, there's just yeah, there's just certain roles
Speaker 3: that he just pops off in that.
Speaker 4: I really do, like, have.
Speaker 1: You seen Birdman? I wouldn't think no, No.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen Birdman. But what else has he been in?
Speaker 3: Michael our RoboCop? I forgot Michael Keaton isn't there? Right,
Speaker 3: That's one that I have not revisited. Jack Frost is
Speaker 3: a classic.
Speaker 4: I usually watch that.
Speaker 1: Christ do you know what that movie is?
Speaker 2: I deeply just told you for that that would definitely
Speaker 2: be my touchdown as a kid that was watching every year.
Speaker 1: Kind of magic Harmonica brings your dad back because.
Speaker 2: The singer and the Keaton guy after all, who knows?
Speaker 2: It seems like.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize he was in the Minyon's movie. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he plays just a voice. Yeah cars as well. Wow,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. That's sounds made up anything
Speaker 1: else but keeno, you want to go somewhere else? Taylor
Speaker 1: in this retro.
Speaker 3: I think I already highlighted pretty much his character. Like
Speaker 3: I said, he's just he doesn't feel like Keaton. I
Speaker 3: guess you said that too, like you can see him
Speaker 3: playing a batman, but when you look at him in
Speaker 3: this role, like you can hear it in his voice,
Speaker 3: but he's you don't feel like he is Michael Keaton.
Speaker 3: And I stand by what you said with that. I
Speaker 3: think that's a pretty good coverage. But moving on from
Speaker 3: uh beadle Juice. So who else do we want to
Speaker 3: talk about here? What is the mum's name from home alone?
Speaker 4: I feel about it.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, Ohara, Well, I'm not sure. In
Speaker 1: the movie, it's want something deeds. I can't remember. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I'll get it.
Speaker 3: Her character I just get a kick out of I
Speaker 3: like that the family dynamic was that they had to
Speaker 3: get scared of the home, but when they found out that,
Speaker 3: they were like singing and dancing at the dinner table
Speaker 3: and like the shrimp hands grab them.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 3: And it just turns out like you know what, they're
Speaker 3: just trying to market this now and they're they're all
Speaker 3: for it. And I like how ultimately it ends with
Speaker 3: the movie with them just being happy and just content, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we got the ghosts here, that's it. But the whole
Speaker 3: theme of them just trying to turn around and her artwork,
Speaker 3: just as Tim Burton styled. But she's just she's a
Speaker 3: funny character. I like her dynamic and the story. I
Speaker 3: like her dynamic with Panana Rider, and I'm really happy
Speaker 3: she is back for the next one. I think to
Speaker 3: actually see beal juice in her engaging more in dialogue
Speaker 3: is gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: So I think that's I think it's a good call.
Speaker 4: She has a funny character.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's great. I've not watched it's creak. I've just
Speaker 1: seen highlights and I hear great things about it, and.
Speaker 2: I'm dropping like one gift per day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, because I only I think has watched
Speaker 1: it three times, so I probably will on this next
Speaker 1: time off I have, but uh yeah, between this and
Speaker 1: then even just home alone in that era, and she's
Speaker 1: always popped a bunchet stuff. But she has great comedic
Speaker 1: timing and she has like a I think she plays
Speaker 1: like the classic kind of stuck up almost like a
Speaker 1: stuck up bitch in a sense, but she still gives
Speaker 1: enough shades to make her seem like a like a
Speaker 1: regular human and not completely a dirt bag. You know,
Speaker 1: it seems like she might have She's pretty self warrented,
Speaker 1: but especially I think near the end, you know, I
Speaker 1: think they do a good wrinkle of making sure you
Speaker 1: know that she's the step mom. And especially I like
Speaker 1: in the nineties that had such a bad contentation where
Speaker 1: I feel like nowadays not as bad, like I feel
Speaker 1: like not. I feel like there's only millions of people
Speaker 1: that have to for like, I come from a divorce
Speaker 1: house where I have Christmas with my dad, my stepmom,
Speaker 1: and my mom all together, Like it's never ever been
Speaker 1: an issue of like being all together. But in the
Speaker 1: nineties they felt like if it's a step parent, you knew,
Speaker 1: oh that's a bad thing because they don't love the
Speaker 1: kid or whatever. They don't have a good relationship there,
Speaker 1: And maybe that's something not that I need, like a
Speaker 1: deep scene. I think maybe in the movie I had
Speaker 1: always like a little bit more with her and Lydia
Speaker 1: because they just they make that comment, and I feel
Speaker 1: like they never take two witch one on one time together.
Speaker 1: So I would have liked to dive a little more
Speaker 1: into that. Which is good with them being back, because
Speaker 1: with that father character being away, it is now just
Speaker 1: them two together with the granddaughter, so they might get
Speaker 1: into that in this movie because I think there's fun
Speaker 1: things to play with the multiple generations there. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: she's she's great. And even the guy plays Ortho or whatever.
Speaker 1: I think it's Ortho.
Speaker 2: Orlo or not Auto.
Speaker 1: No, it's not Auto, know, but he's just a fun
Speaker 1: side character, like breaking through the window of like, oh,
Speaker 1: you won't go through the door the first time because
Speaker 1: it's bad luck as the dead people. So that's a
Speaker 1: good little moments with their little fashion grew in them,
Speaker 1: and that for me is also just a really good
Speaker 1: shot set piece of them going through the house and
Speaker 1: spraying stuff. Just the framing of things like when Geena
Speaker 1: Daves is coming down the stairs and it's just like
Speaker 1: the measuring tape comes in a frame. It's like ah,
Speaker 1: and just the closet, like there're that whole sequence of
Speaker 1: going up and down. It's just a little thing, but
Speaker 1: it's it's shot very well.
Speaker 4: So m hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love Katherine Mahara in this. It's it's funny
Speaker 2: watching this now, and I feel like there are some
Speaker 2: roots here that lead to like her Shit's Creek character
Speaker 2: in terms of like that's some of the ways she's
Speaker 2: pulling off and just being a very like high class
Speaker 2: individual always wearing these very extravagant outfits of that sort
Speaker 2: of stuff. And h yeah, as you mentioned, Taylor, that
Speaker 2: dinner scene is definitely one of the highlights in here
Speaker 2: for me, one of one of my favorite sequences, just
Speaker 2: because of the zaniness of it, but also just like
Speaker 2: the ride, all the characters are going going on where
Speaker 2: they're like freaked out but they start to enjoy it.
Speaker 2: I think is a very fun dynamic. And yeah, apparently
Speaker 2: there's like a Beatlejuice musical like a sequence like that,
Speaker 2: Like I would love to see what that on stage
Speaker 2: musical version would be like, because that would like sequences
Speaker 2: like that are just made for like a theatric situation.
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I think I think she's really fun
Speaker 2: and I hope she gets a I don't think she will,
Speaker 2: but I hope it gets like a slightly bigger role
Speaker 2: or like a little bit more to do, like maybe
Speaker 2: a little bit more variety in her in the role
Speaker 2: in the new one. I'm not, like I said, I'm
Speaker 2: not holding out because I think it's gonna be mostly
Speaker 2: about Winona and Jenna Ortega, but hopefully she does have
Speaker 2: some good content in there and isn't just like there
Speaker 2: at the beginning to set it up as like a
Speaker 2: continuation of this thing from thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, about miss ryan Or were you talking about her?
Speaker 1: You know, she plays Letia. Dat's the classic kind of
Speaker 1: I'd say it's a lot of stereotype in the nineties
Speaker 1: as the goth person who's obsessed with death than darkness,
Speaker 1: and that once they see the real thing, maybe they're
Speaker 1: a little scared of it and stuff and looking for
Speaker 1: some because even though her biological father is there, she
Speaker 1: didn't really have a close relationship with anybody in the household,
Speaker 1: and she kind of is more akin to these people,
Speaker 1: which is kind of good too, because they mentioned that
Speaker 1: the I don't think they fully mentioned, but they kind
Speaker 1: of almost allude to that they are having troubles having
Speaker 1: a child, so they kind of, you know, adopt this
Speaker 1: child near the end of like a teenage everything. So
Speaker 1: what do you think about miss Ryder here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think in terms of her acting career,
Speaker 2: like what was the order of the kind of bigger
Speaker 2: things that she was in. Would this have been? Like
Speaker 2: this is pretty early on. This is her third movie
Speaker 2: that she ever did, So that's.
Speaker 1: Really what came before though, I think there's something.
Speaker 2: Lucas, which I've never heard of those movies.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess not. No, it was after, because
Speaker 1: so I think this was definitely big for the one
Speaker 1: after this would have been Heathers had there was a
Speaker 1: very big, like teen sort of thing and then a
Speaker 1: year so oh is it good? Really? Oh yeah, she
Speaker 1: had three movies in nineteen eight, so she just blew
Speaker 1: up entirely of Beetlejuice, Heather's never seen nineteen sixty nine,
Speaker 1: there's that, and then I know there was like Little
Speaker 1: Women comes up. That's big for her, and the Dracula, yes,
Speaker 1: and Mermaids was big for because I was a movie
Speaker 1: cher when Edward says her hands, but yeah, I'd say
Speaker 1: that was probably just the year of nineteen eighty eight
Speaker 1: was just the kickoff of who is this girl? Because
Speaker 1: even when I'm a ryder, she's the star of that.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, she definitely and she definitely was the
Speaker 1: eight girl for a while. I think that as I
Speaker 1: watched this movie and I watch like stuff now, I
Speaker 1: think she's always just been like a like a decent actress,
Speaker 1: you know, I because I.
Speaker 2: Felt like criticism comes down, yeah, like make sence I
Speaker 2: was an actress.
Speaker 1: I think when there had been so much time passed
Speaker 1: and stranger things came out and she'd kind of taken
Speaker 1: not a break from acting, but wasn't acting as much,
Speaker 1: and she was in that show and then oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's good, but she's not like as good as she
Speaker 1: used to be. And then I think just between we
Speaker 1: did this we did Alien four. I think I like
Speaker 1: her because I think why I wrote Rider became big.
Speaker 1: She has like a quality that other people don't like.
Speaker 1: It could be called equality, but there's just something there
Speaker 1: where you can't train it. But there's some scenes there.
Speaker 1: There are just whether it's this or or other projects
Speaker 1: in the past I've seen recently were a little dry.
Speaker 1: But like I said, hy no one is always enjoyable
Speaker 1: in this. But you know, fun enough character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know how old she is here
Speaker 2: as well, but like pretty young. And I feel like
Speaker 2: we've talked about that a lot. How back then, you know,
Speaker 2: child actors were not of the highest caliber. But yeah,
Speaker 2: this it's fun for because this character, above all else,
Speaker 2: even more than the character of Beatle Juice, feels the
Speaker 2: most Tim Burton esque right in terms of that goth
Speaker 2: aesthetic and talking about dead all the time. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think she's a really fun character. I think she
Speaker 2: does a good job here, Like even just like she
Speaker 2: just seems like she's having a lot of fun like part,
Speaker 2: particularly in the just the ending sequence when she's you know,
Speaker 2: strung up by the wires there and just floating and
Speaker 2: singing like that, just seems like she's having a grand
Speaker 2: old time. So yeah, once again another character that I
Speaker 2: thought would be like, she has quite a lot more
Speaker 2: screen time than Beetlejuice I would expect. I don't have
Speaker 2: the number in front of me, but even then, I
Speaker 2: I just assume that her and Beetlejuice were like the
Speaker 2: stars or like the main characters here. But she's even
Speaker 2: in it a lot less than I was expecting, because
Speaker 2: even like in the first few scenes of her, she's
Speaker 2: really not doing much. She's kind of just like spying
Speaker 2: on the main characters. So there's like a scene happening,
Speaker 2: and then every once in a while there's like a
Speaker 2: quick shot of like her, you know, peeking through the
Speaker 2: door kind of thing, so it becomes it's also a
Speaker 2: while before she gets like woven into the story in
Speaker 2: a good way. But then she kind of becomes the
Speaker 2: star at the end, kind of saves the day, right,
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm curious to see what her role is
Speaker 2: going to be in this in this new one once again,
Speaker 2: like how much how much she'll be in it?
Speaker 1: Yeah. So she it says in nineteen eight eight she
Speaker 1: was seventeen, but I would assume when she filmed this
Speaker 1: she was probably close to sixteen.
Speaker 2: So it looked quite I mean, I'm very better like
Speaker 2: telling age when I look at people, but she seemed
Speaker 2: younger than that to me. But yeah, she just has
Speaker 2: that kind of face. I don't know.
Speaker 1: So she was coming just out of high school then
Speaker 1: pretty much with this movie. So, like I said, good
Speaker 1: agent her got her in some stuff there, you know.
Speaker 2: So definitely.
Speaker 4: I think that her character was just.
Speaker 3: She was interesting because you have like two very different
Speaker 3: parent figures and then her character just being the complete
Speaker 3: maybe a little bit from her mom in certain aspects,
Speaker 3: but just she's just her own kind of thing, and
Speaker 3: her perspective just completely changes because she walks into the
Speaker 3: seam and she's playing this like woe's me, Like life
Speaker 3: is mediocre, just walking through the house taking photos.
Speaker 1: What Taylor does you know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what I do.
Speaker 3: And then as soon as she finds out that there's
Speaker 3: the ghosts, which is another interesting thing too, because no
Speaker 3: one can see them, and yet she is the one
Speaker 3: who has this ability to see them, which are I like,
Speaker 3: and then she just completely lightens up. It's funny because
Speaker 3: you think that it would be the opposite of that
Speaker 3: she encounters the dead and she can see the dead,
Speaker 3: but it actually is what's really giving her life and
Speaker 3: making her feel more fulfilled in her life, which is
Speaker 3: a cool kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Especially because they're just like regular people. It's like anyone
Speaker 2: would be freaked out if just two strangers were in
Speaker 2: their house, but like it's almost like the mediocrity of
Speaker 2: like this ghost It just is a disarming thing to her,
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: And that's like she wanted to know if they were
Speaker 3: like ugly, and that's what she expected. Right when she's
Speaker 3: trying to pull her blankets off, which I love that
Speaker 3: whole scene when she's like banging on the wall and.
Speaker 4: The Maitland's like, woo, I'm a kid child, Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 4: I thought that was clever.
Speaker 3: When she's taking the fucking bazillion photos and she notices
Speaker 3: that there's no feet in the photos, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: like that she can see them, and I like that
Speaker 3: she kind of gets wrapped into this whole mischievous thing
Speaker 3: with Beal Juice, where it's just this whole plot is like, Okay,
Speaker 3: she needs to become his wife, and I don't fully
Speaker 3: understand how that works, but he just they breathed past it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's probably someone before where he goes. She
Speaker 1: asked why and he's like, oh, I don't make the rules.
Speaker 1: So it's like the most it's the most easiest way
Speaker 1: to get out of as a writer, just like, well,
Speaker 1: there are rules, but Beale Juice isn't gonna explain them
Speaker 1: to you. Like why would a ghost marrying? Like I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's supposed to be kind of like
Speaker 1: how back in the day, if you weren't from a
Speaker 1: country and you came here and married someone in Canada,
Speaker 1: you could stay in Canada? Is that how it works
Speaker 1: in the dead world of Beale Just like marry as
Speaker 1: a person that's living, he can become a living person again,
Speaker 1: you know. And like even then, like why does he
Speaker 1: want to what is he like? Andy? When he's like
Speaker 1: it's all fun stuff, but he's likek at the newspapers.
Speaker 1: I need a job, Like what are they paying him?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What does he like? What is pal? Just what it's
Speaker 1: his income in this world? Like there's little stuff and
Speaker 1: then you know it's so fun. I don't need those answers,
Speaker 1: but it is just they breathe past a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't think he was serious about that comment, to
Speaker 2: be fair.
Speaker 3: That's the hard thing to decipher, is what is he
Speaker 3: serious about? Because he even then when he's trying to
Speaker 3: find the ring to give to a rider, he pulls
Speaker 3: out this woman's finger with a ring and says, I'll
Speaker 3: treat you better than her, Like she means nothing to me.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, were you married before? Well he does
Speaker 2: say that, he said, I promise I'd never get married again.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 1: He does, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they've confirmed Beal
Speaker 1: Juice that he has been the sequel. He has been
Speaker 1: married before. I think that plays some bit into it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, And that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: For things that I do like though, I love the
Speaker 1: model set piece town when they're there with Beatle Juice.
Speaker 1: I love that they took because they easily could have
Speaker 1: just made it grass again or make it look a
Speaker 1: little different. I love that it's that very like plastic
Speaker 1: looking like syrofoam almost glass. I love the proportions and everything.
Speaker 1: I just love just everything about it. And it's not
Speaker 1: like a big set. You can tell they found a
Speaker 1: lot in fashion around it. They don't move around a bunch.
Speaker 1: Well of course they add like the dead leg I
Speaker 1: can't remember her name, but they add like a prostitute
Speaker 1: house just to keep Beetle Juice busy for a bit,
Speaker 1: which like I enjoy that because like, yeah, like that's
Speaker 1: like what such a piece of shit Beetlejuice is, Like
Speaker 1: he literally has a plan, but he is such an
Speaker 1: idiot that they put this this house here, and that
Speaker 1: like that takes his attention off his goal.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like oh yeah, because like he is like hey,
Speaker 1: he's a mischievous character and he's a clever character at point,
Speaker 1: but they also portray him as like an idiot, right,
Speaker 1: and that's what kind of works where I did they
Speaker 1: just put this house here and that's that, you know,
Speaker 1: But everything to do with that thing. I love when
Speaker 1: the TV comes up and he has like the fake
Speaker 1: TV ad and the Beetlegeist and everything, like everything to
Speaker 1: do with that little model town area. I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan of when they're they're big people and they're
Speaker 1: talking to Beetlejuice. He's like a little toy, but they
Speaker 1: show him. So I love all that set design there.
Speaker 1: M M. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I even the opening shot I found very compelling because
Speaker 2: so I feel like so many movies these days just
Speaker 2: start with like drone shots of cities and country roads,
Speaker 2: and so to have that in like a kind of
Speaker 2: uncanny way because it's these what seems like a drone
Speaker 2: shot but of this little model city that for the
Speaker 2: first like few scenes, I'm like, is this actually like
Speaker 2: a helicopter shot? Like what is going on? Because it
Speaker 2: looks very life like, And then you see a couple
Speaker 2: like you know, people standy or we mean type things,
Speaker 2: and it's like, Okay, this is this is not real anymore.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I really like I like how much it
Speaker 2: was used, and it's obviously coming back in some way
Speaker 2: for the the sequel as well. It still is there,
Speaker 2: so I really like it. I think one thing too,
Speaker 2: this this movie is just like really good lighting. I
Speaker 2: think it adds so much to the weird creations for
Speaker 2: all the creatures, but just like the way that the
Speaker 2: little town miniature would light up. And I'm sure that
Speaker 2: it wasn't always how they were actually lighting the scene,
Speaker 2: but they made it seem like that's how it was
Speaker 2: lighting it when the uh, the lady, the assistant whoever.
Speaker 2: Is like when when they first go to the afterlife
Speaker 2: waiting room, they have the attendant, she's helping them, and
Speaker 2: like midway through that conversation, just like some of the
Speaker 2: lights start popping up and it's highlighting their face as
Speaker 2: it goes to this conversation. I just thought it was
Speaker 2: really creative and made these scenes like even more lively.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I really really like that set piece. I'm
Speaker 2: glad it's it's coming back.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, because any other set pieces or scenes
Speaker 1: or moments you want to shut out.
Speaker 3: I mean i'd piggyback on just the set pieces like
Speaker 3: you guys said, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple other ones for me, like the the
Speaker 2: whole marriage sequence is so fun, like even just starting
Speaker 2: back with othos authos, like ritual that he's doing and
Speaker 2: like their their faces just like the life sucking out
Speaker 2: of them. I think that whole scenes is really fun,
Speaker 2: and just like get into the marriage sequence and how
Speaker 2: zany and like Tom and Jerry, that sequence is uh
Speaker 2: when Barbara's like trying to say his name, gets the
Speaker 2: zipper thrown at her mouth, unzips it, and then gets
Speaker 2: like the little metal uh covering grown.
Speaker 1: On the creative fun yeah stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's as you're saying, like, he he's
Speaker 2: way more powerful than this, He like could stop them,
Speaker 2: but he's just such a playful and maybe idiot. He's
Speaker 2: a playful idiot and that's why he chooses to go
Speaker 2: with these like much more creative ways of doing things.
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I think that's a that's definitely one
Speaker 2: of the one of the highlights for me. And then
Speaker 2: also I really I mean just in general, like the
Speaker 2: whole Afterlife waiting room, like that whole sequence is so
Speaker 2: much fun and it's funny. When I was watching that,
Speaker 2: I was just thinking of, you know, one of my
Speaker 2: favorite Halloween movies growing up that me and my sister
Speaker 2: would watch all the time was Halloween Town. Yeah, just
Speaker 2: like this movie is so like Halloween Town is so
Speaker 2: inspired by Field Juice.
Speaker 1: It's the kid version for sure, Yeah, which yeah.
Speaker 2: I never would have known before. Even just like the
Speaker 2: way the weird deformed monsters in Halloween Town look just
Speaker 2: like Beatle Juice creations. The music in Halloween Town, like
Speaker 2: the theme of that is is so close to the
Speaker 2: Beatlejuice theme as well. Uh so all that that whole
Speaker 2: sequence is so fun. And the office it's a lot
Speaker 2: more dark. Like I love that one of the people
Speaker 2: in the waiting room is just this smoker and like
Speaker 2: his whole body is just like a destroyed lung. It's
Speaker 2: so gross.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to cut back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny. The guy in just like the
Speaker 2: sleeping bag with the snake popping out in his face,
Speaker 2: like his hairs all popping out like mar from Home alone.
Speaker 2: Just everyone in there is so fun and like they
Speaker 2: just the little storytelling of how they died based on
Speaker 2: their look. The shrunken head guy, which obviously just like
Speaker 2: one hundred of those in the in the sequel, it
Speaker 2: looks like at some point. So I I just that
Speaker 2: sequence is so playful and so silly. I really liked it,
Speaker 2: And I love that their attendant is just like an
Speaker 2: old lady who died of old age. Presumably.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, well I don't was it that or
Speaker 1: see I always took it.
Speaker 3: Like case worker was the old lady, right, that's what
Speaker 3: I mean that character.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how he took it she died from lung
Speaker 1: cancer because she has that like slit in her throat.
Speaker 2: Okay, well yeah, I guess she feel like that guy
Speaker 2: who died of lung cancer was like that smoking guy. Hmm.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to wonder why because she's always smoked people.
Speaker 2: It seems like you become an exaggerated version of how
Speaker 2: you died. Obviously that hasn't happened yet for the protagonist characters.
Speaker 2: Or maybe it just hasn't happened yet for her, Maybe
Speaker 2: she just died or something. I'm not the.
Speaker 1: Real reason was, like, yes, they tinker at the idea
Speaker 1: of them always having the effects, but Burton just decided
Speaker 1: he didn't want the actors wet all the time because
Speaker 1: he thought they would just hate it. And I think
Speaker 1: that's probably the right move. Like it doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: because like they should be that way all the time,
Speaker 1: But I could see many top actors turning.
Speaker 2: Oybe he died on the impact rather than the drown
Speaker 2: yeah something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it seems that she would have died from
Speaker 3: lung cancer before she went to another world. But she
Speaker 3: has a civil servant, so she most likely slit her
Speaker 3: own throat.
Speaker 4: I don't know how that makes sense, but okay.
Speaker 1: Because she has that's what I always saw it was
Speaker 1: because she has thrown sometimes smokes me out and that okay,
Speaker 1: that's what they're trying to lose, like lung cancer or whatnot,
Speaker 1: because it is that did that fire guy did he
Speaker 1: die of lung cancer or was it something else?
Speaker 2: So wait? Is she is her role in is she's
Speaker 2: a civil servant? Is that what they're saying? What you're saying?
Speaker 2: Because that because that's one of the I mean that, like,
Speaker 2: how would any of these characters know? But I think
Speaker 2: it's the dad someone says that he's joking at like
Speaker 2: anyone who kills themselves will become a civil servant in
Speaker 2: the app?
Speaker 1: Which does happen? Right? Because that the I don't know
Speaker 1: the what is it called secretary?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: The person of the desk is like, oh, if I
Speaker 1: knew what this life would have been, I would have
Speaker 1: my relaxed. And she shows her wrists and they're slit right,
Speaker 1: so I think all and again, well that's another one too,
Speaker 1: is the people the guy that's dropping off papers at
Speaker 1: one point they show he has like he's hung himself
Speaker 1: and that's how he's moving around. Yeah, they drop stuff
Speaker 1: and even that guy that's switched by the car, he
Speaker 1: could have just ran in front of car. Man. I've
Speaker 1: never thought about this, like I call that line, but
Speaker 1: I didn't think about every single person that's working there
Speaker 1: has I would presume taking their life in one way
Speaker 1: or another.
Speaker 2: Everyone is working.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that dentual kind of right now, Well, he
Speaker 1: doesn't work there though he used to.
Speaker 4: Though ifmember he was juno secretary or what a.
Speaker 1: Terrible I guess system, he maybe.
Speaker 2: Electrocuted himself and that's how he killed himself or.
Speaker 1: Some Yeah he could have been. Yeah. So yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: interested because I think they're supposed to get into some
Speaker 1: of his origin stuff in the sequel here, which is
Speaker 1: always like that's like a that stuff where it to
Speaker 1: seque's where it's like, oh that's a that's a risky it.
Speaker 2: Maybe feels a little penny wise, like where it's like
Speaker 2: every thirty years he comes back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, we got to.
Speaker 2: Go back to the source to figure out to kill
Speaker 2: him for good.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's an interesting wrinkle that I never really put
Speaker 1: tune together, he learned stuff all time. So we do
Speaker 1: these retros and reviews.
Speaker 3: The thing that I feel like does not age very
Speaker 3: well is the football team with m all dead.
Speaker 4: And I feel like I feel.
Speaker 3: Like that's something at least more in recent years has
Speaker 3: happened where bus accidents, yeah, and unfortunate results.
Speaker 4: That come from that.
Speaker 3: So I get just watching in retrospect, I was just
Speaker 3: seeing that, I thought, yeah, I don't think this.
Speaker 4: Aged very well because it seems to happen a.
Speaker 2: Lot these see. To me, that's that's funny, whereas like
Speaker 2: joking about someone killing themselves, like that's more serious. I
Speaker 2: don't have a problem with it. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: For some reason, a football team dying in a buzzize
Speaker 2: like comes across as funny in this movie.
Speaker 1: For me, it's tough because, like, I think it's a tough.
Speaker 2: Dancing sequence at the end on the stairs too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a top five line from this movie.
Speaker 1: When they're in there, they're talking to her and she
Speaker 1: shushes out and they come back and the guy goes,
Speaker 1: you know, coach, I.
Speaker 4: Don't think we made it, but their coach lived.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, oh really, how did you get that yeah,
Speaker 1: and then she he says coach and she's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: you died. He survived And I can't remember. I think
Speaker 1: she was in a bunch. She's like another hor anthology
Speaker 1: movie i'd watch. It might be cats Eye, but the
Speaker 1: actress that plays they're like character here, fuck just so good.
Speaker 1: Like she's in here, same thing as beel Juice for
Speaker 1: like what a few couple of scenes, but she just
Speaker 1: gives that dead end, tired of her job, tired of
Speaker 1: dealing with these people and ghosts and dead things. Like,
Speaker 1: she just gives it off so well. It's like she's
Speaker 1: such a minor character, but it's her comedic timing she
Speaker 1: has with everybody, like even our main characters see, like
Speaker 1: we don't talk much about Like I like them both.
Speaker 1: I think they gave us enough time in the beginning.
Speaker 1: I think they were smart that at the very beginning
Speaker 1: they just show them just completely in love. They're kissing,
Speaker 1: one tries to leave, they pull each other, kiss back,
Speaker 1: one tries to leave again, they pull like they're very cuddly,
Speaker 1: like when they're walking at the because Emily even jokes'
Speaker 1: like I've never had that much energy. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: well you know that's the point of this, because even
Speaker 1: then they're making these jokes about how, oh, we could
Speaker 1: just stay here forever the point of the vacation. And then,
Speaker 1: you know, even when they die and she says, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be stuck here forever and then alcohol and
Speaker 1: looks up, he smiles and he's like, oh, it sounds
Speaker 1: like heaven. It's like they do a good job before
Speaker 1: the deeds show up to show that. Okay, of course
Speaker 1: it sucks that they died, but there's still a or.
Speaker 1: These two are so in love that what a way
Speaker 1: to go out. And even her biggest issue is oh
Speaker 1: there's dust. You know, it's not even like oh we
Speaker 1: can't do this this or that. It's like it's an issue,
Speaker 1: and that's another character.
Speaker 3: Cha.
Speaker 1: I love the realtor. I love just how push she is.
Speaker 1: I love that moment when she talks to Geena Davis
Speaker 1: and when it's in the basement, Wall opens that window
Speaker 1: and he gets that jump scared. She's like, hey, so
Speaker 1: I again, just a little minor characters in here. I
Speaker 1: really enjoy so.
Speaker 2: Mm hm, yeah. I think the protagonists do a good job.
Speaker 2: And once again, especially because I didn't really expect them
Speaker 2: as characters in this movie at all, Like it was
Speaker 2: kind of surprising, but I think they do a really
Speaker 2: good job of carrying it along. I think the kind
Speaker 2: of like I guess it is the plot, but it's
Speaker 2: just such an underwhelming plot of them just trying to
Speaker 2: defend their home in like this very like silly way
Speaker 2: with this really rich families coming in and making all
Speaker 2: these crazy changes and painting on the walls and you
Speaker 2: know they don't want them to get in the attic
Speaker 2: and stuff. I think that's a very fun just kind
Speaker 2: of recurring like there's a lot of jokes made around
Speaker 2: that concequence with the whole kind of movie results, around
Speaker 2: why they go to beatleers in the first place. It's
Speaker 2: kind of the plot device in that sense too, but
Speaker 2: I think it is. I think it is a fun uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know, a fun set up. It's pretty simple,
Speaker 2: and it's interesting that they aren't coming back. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I was just looking at Alec
Speaker 2: Baldwin's IMDb and he's like nine upcoming movies, so clearly
Speaker 2: he's going hand doing stuff. I know there was well
Speaker 2: there kind of is or was that controversy and I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know what Geena Davis is up to these
Speaker 2: days or anything. I'm sure if she's been canceled to
Speaker 2: like other people.
Speaker 1: No, No, I think she's fat. I just yeah, I
Speaker 1: wonder with them, how they if they find a way
Speaker 1: just to say that. I imagine they're gonna say they
Speaker 1: just passed on or something they found.
Speaker 2: You need both like that, you wouldn't bring one of
Speaker 2: them back, so, because then you came down to and.
Speaker 1: Then you run into that thing, like you know, a
Speaker 1: certain movie we just reviewed, where you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to do the d aging right and you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to like is it gonna be that thing where
Speaker 1: they look funny and it's off putting and you may
Speaker 1: just may as well not do it, you know. So it's, uh,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see if they even mentioned them,
Speaker 1: you know so. But it is an odd thing when
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you got ghosts and they've decided to
Speaker 1: live with each other, and it's like, well the ghosts
Speaker 1: are but maybe that's it, like I said, maybe they
Speaker 1: just they were at peace and finally have to pass on.
Speaker 1: I guess, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really like the sequence when they are first
Speaker 2: initially trying to scare the family, and they have their
Speaker 2: sheets and they called them, think of them as death shrouds.
Speaker 2: I really like that line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just.
Speaker 2: Going around making like these just wallowey noises, and Lydia
Speaker 2: thinks it's her mom being dramatic. Mom thinks it's the
Speaker 2: TV turns it off, like they just can't get Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just love it. And then and then they go
Speaker 2: like way off the deep end. They figure out how
Speaker 2: to do all this crazy ghost magic, make the craziest scene,
Speaker 2: and then it ends up being something that the family
Speaker 2: really likes, so that that hole just they just can't
Speaker 2: get it right. Sequences is very fun.
Speaker 1: I feel like because I was looking at Michael Keaton's
Speaker 1: filmography again and I don't. I don't. Maybe you guys
Speaker 1: would have known, do you know, Michael keen wasn't the
Speaker 1: Need for Speed movie.
Speaker 4: I never seen it.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know there was a movie. I thought
Speaker 2: when I was scrolling through. Is that having to be?
Speaker 2: I assume maybe it was just a game that he's
Speaker 2: a voice in or something.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, Aaron Paul's the star of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm the few video game movies that view we.
Speaker 2: Might put that in one of our video game movie.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting that. We got a lot of better
Speaker 1: ones to get through.
Speaker 2: Before Michael Keaton's in it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We had to do Mario, we had
Speaker 1: to do we still. Yeah, we had to do Moral Kombat,
Speaker 1: which we did do. That was a vote. I didn't
Speaker 1: choose for Supersia. Yeah, we had to because the patrons
Speaker 1: chose it. But you know, maybe next film Ratrol will
Speaker 1: have the patrons. We'll try and get them. Do need
Speaker 1: for Speed? So anything else specifically about this movie before
Speaker 1: I get into trivia?
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Field, Nope, nope, all right. The studio originally wanted to
Speaker 1: call the film house Ghosts, but as a joke, Tim
Speaker 1: Burn suggested the name be called Scared Sheetless, and it
Speaker 1: was horrified when the studio was actually considering it. So
Speaker 1: there's a lesson. Don't joke with the studio because it
Speaker 1: might be like, oh I like that, you know, so crazy?
Speaker 1: Oh God. Director Tim Burn for the day sequence wouldn't
Speaker 1: go over well. In his opinion, it was very It
Speaker 1: wasn't very funny. Burton turned out to be wrong. Our
Speaker 1: audience loved and think it's the most iconic scene of
Speaker 1: the film, which I agree with as far as like
Speaker 1: when they get possessed in the day and everything like that.
Speaker 1: I think other than like Michael Keaton talking and even
Speaker 1: at the end he does a hit showtime, you know,
Speaker 1: like I think there's little moments with him, but that
Speaker 1: I think is the sequence, and that's the song I
Speaker 1: still think of. Then you got rid of that. This
Speaker 1: was the first DVD sent out by Netflix in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety eight, so look at that. That's a fun fact.
Speaker 2: That is a whole freaking crazy ninety.
Speaker 1: Eight ninety eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Holy f that's insane.
Speaker 1: It's weird when you try to think of stuff that
Speaker 1: like really started at certain times. It's the same thing
Speaker 1: when them we talk about Twitter and you go back
Speaker 1: you look at when it started. But yeah, Netflix nineteen
Speaker 1: ninet eight. I guess was I got DVD rental at
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: So yeah, back when they shipped your house.
Speaker 1: And I think they just stopped doing that like last
Speaker 1: year or something. They were still doing it for some things,
Speaker 1: so you could do that. Yeah, Michael Keaton ablet ninety
Speaker 1: of his lines. Michael Keaton claims this is his favorite
Speaker 1: film so of his own, not just like not just
Speaker 1: some general he's not like that egotistical, like what's what's
Speaker 1: your favorite movie? Michael, Oh, it's just gotta be Beatle Juice.
Speaker 1: You know, I love that.
Speaker 2: But I wonder, I wonder how that process went, Like
Speaker 2: was there must have been a script where he had
Speaker 2: lines in there or was it just I don't I
Speaker 2: don't know how that works.
Speaker 1: Even I think they had lines, and then I think
Speaker 1: it's just that they changed all those lines or they're
Speaker 1: just like you do how you want to, and then
Speaker 1: it just didn't match up with because I get I
Speaker 1: bet a bunch of that stuff, like when Taylor talk
Speaker 1: about when he turns into him, like obviously you have
Speaker 1: to pre write that, but just the stuff like keyten
Speaker 1: feels at times like again, I don't want to make
Speaker 1: their phone comparison, but it feels like Reynold's in Deadpool
Speaker 1: when he gets on a run and he's just going,
Speaker 1: you can tell, okay, this is just from Renald's mind.
Speaker 1: That's Keaton. Sometimes, like when he's just yelling at them,
Speaker 1: it's like I can believe half the diablete because it
Speaker 1: just feels like very personal to him.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I wonder if even like in the casting process,
Speaker 2: if I mean, I don't know if Tim Burton would
Speaker 2: be in the room where I would be like the
Speaker 2: casting director, probably both. I wonder if it would be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we found the person who matches what we're looking for,
Speaker 2: or is more that Keaton did something so weird and
Speaker 2: interesting that they're like, Okay, pick that guy. Yeah, put
Speaker 2: him in here, because he's got something. And that's where
Speaker 2: the ad libon would come from. Just give him some
Speaker 2: more of that creative freedom.
Speaker 1: Well mostly came early because my looking came up with
Speaker 1: much of the characters. Look himself. Keen told the makeup
Speaker 1: department that he wanted to mold on his face and
Speaker 1: his hair, looking as if he stuck his fingers in
Speaker 1: electrical socket.
Speaker 2: There you go, Okay, so my theory might hold some water.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He requested a wardrobe department send him close from all
Speaker 1: different type of time periods, which that's where Tim Burton
Speaker 1: described the character as having lived in every time period
Speaker 1: but no time period. Keyes is a jumping off point
Speaker 1: to create the characters such features as the shock hairedo,
Speaker 1: mold makeup, large tiefeit. He said he first showed up
Speaker 1: to be all juice and the crowd was chanting jews
Speaker 1: juice juice, and that got him into the character. So
Speaker 1: it must have been a fun Yeah, it must have
Speaker 1: been a fun setback. Then, Catherine Harrow met her future husband,
Speaker 1: a production designer, Bo Welsh, while making this film. According
Speaker 1: to Welsh, Tim Burton said that he should go ask
Speaker 1: out her near the end of filming. It did, and
Speaker 1: this is a quote from him. It didn't even ocur
Speaker 1: to me. I was even supposed to talk to actors,
Speaker 1: but since Tim told me I had to do it,
Speaker 1: I did, and then we dated and then we married
Speaker 1: and here we are today.
Speaker 2: So that'sh There you go.
Speaker 1: So Tim Burton gave him a little push and he
Speaker 1: maybe wouldn't have done it, So there you go. And sorry,
Speaker 1: I was wrong. Michael keyes in this movie for fourteen
Speaker 1: minutes and fifty seconds, not thirty seconds, so a twenty
Speaker 1: extra seconds I didn't give him there, So let's Seeyeah
Speaker 1: already talked about. Yeah, all of them are how they died,
Speaker 1: the ghosts, her, the people in the waiting room, but
Speaker 1: they tinker with the idea of them being wet all
Speaker 1: the time, but just thought the actors would be not
Speaker 1: comforableed that, and I agreed that I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of high profile actors that would have been, like,
Speaker 1: you want me to be wet all the time, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. So let's see yeah the box
Speaker 1: office success. Creative plans for a sequel Beal Juice Goes
Speaker 1: to Hawaiian or Yeah, Beatle Juice goes Hawaiian, not goes
Speaker 1: Hawaii script was commissioned Michael Keeno and or I are
Speaker 1: both signed on a reprise of respective roles, but timber
Speaker 1: And lows interest in the project and went on direct Batman,
Speaker 1: which is so funny because you feel like it's with
Speaker 1: different people. But it's like he lost interest to do
Speaker 1: bield Just Too with Batman and then to go to Batman,
Speaker 1: and Keaton just followed them because Keaton had signed on
Speaker 1: for bield Just Too, so let's see heird Cordy to Timburn.
Speaker 1: It took a lot time to convince the cast members,
Speaker 1: as they thought the script was too weird. Geena Davis
Speaker 1: was the only cast member who commit to the project
Speaker 1: at first. Mel Keen went on a writer Katherine harra
Speaker 1: All said no, at least once producer David Griffin convinced
Speaker 1: medl Ken's manager to convince Keen to meet with Burton.
Speaker 1: Once Keen said yes, Burton personally called, uh oh, that
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, and then he flew out to Katherine O'Hara
Speaker 1: to convince her to get the role. Kate Keton said,
Speaker 1: he just originally dis didn't get it, but he met
Speaker 1: Burton and that changed him. And then he watched Peewee's
Speaker 1: Big Adventure, which was Tim Burton's movie before this. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so they just didn't really get that there. Tim Burton,
Speaker 1: Ridgie want Sammy Davis Junior, you know, one of the
Speaker 1: great singers all time, a favorite of his childhood, to
Speaker 1: play the rollbo Juice, But the STWO executives didn't like
Speaker 1: that idea at all. And if you're looking at it,
Speaker 1: they had like different designs for him and everything like that.
Speaker 1: So let's see and that is everything I have. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all all the rest of stuff. It's like good
Speaker 1: set design, make up stuff and everything like that. So
Speaker 1: go look on that if you're curious. But mister muss
Speaker 1: final thoughts and a rating on this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a this is a fun discussion. I mean,
Speaker 2: I didn't expect this to be a you know, two
Speaker 2: hour long retro or getting into the weeds and all
Speaker 2: these different things. But even though there was there was
Speaker 2: more depth I think when you dig a couple layers
Speaker 2: deep on it. So this this was a good time.
Speaker 2: I'm excited for the sequel. Like I said, I got
Speaker 2: my ticket now, which that's good. Yeah, and I don't
Speaker 2: even know what I I guess I'll give this a
Speaker 2: seven point nine four.
Speaker 1: Point nine four. Okay, that's an interesting one. There you go,
Speaker 1: mister Field bjbj.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go eight out of ten.
Speaker 3: It's not perfect, but I definitely had some laughs, had
Speaker 3: some fun with it. And yeah, I think that the
Speaker 3: you can tell that the people coming to act in
Speaker 3: this movie or having fun, they're having a good time.
Speaker 3: And it's just such a wacky story and the character
Speaker 3: Beeal Juice is just unique. I think that at its core,
Speaker 3: I I don't need to have like a lot more
Speaker 3: movies that are just like this, but I like the
Speaker 3: idea and the creativity.
Speaker 1: That He's made a lot of movies. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if you've seen them all.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I just like the idea and the creativity that is
Speaker 3: behind this concept, and I'd love to have more zany
Speaker 3: movies that have just very creative concepts thrown out there.
Speaker 4: Because it's just this is just such an original idea.
Speaker 3: And I'm hoping that the sequel does not get a
Speaker 3: little bit too copycat on its originality and reliant on
Speaker 3: that nostalgia and that original to try to like hold
Speaker 3: itself up. I'm hoping that it can kind of be
Speaker 3: its own thing, with its own it's own identity.
Speaker 4: But you never know.
Speaker 3: With these legacy sequels, you know, there's always a little
Speaker 3: bit of a risk. But I got I got faith,
Speaker 3: I got high help. So I'm excited to see it.
Speaker 4: And I cannot wait anymore. So next week, I got
Speaker 4: a wait a week.
Speaker 1: At least you're getting a day early though. We got
Speaker 1: those early screenings right, keep you busy, Yeah, Dylani, you're
Speaker 1: not early screening one right on the web.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, okay, good? The last tickets there.
Speaker 1: Okay good. Just want to clarify, So, yeah, no, as
Speaker 1: I said before, I think there's little issues. If you
Speaker 1: really break it down, it ain't a perfect film. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's even one of the best films all time.
Speaker 1: But like, I just gotta drop a ten on this.
Speaker 1: I really have like not like I enjoy it every time,
Speaker 1: and if it's a movie that obviously because yeah, the
Speaker 1: Halloween season, Christmas happens. There's tons of Christmas movies and Halloween.
Speaker 1: The movies that I watch it aren't ten out of ten's,
Speaker 1: but sometimes don't happen every year where this is it's
Speaker 1: on there and I think, I said, I think it's
Speaker 1: a The run time just makes it feel like it's
Speaker 1: a perfect length. There's nothing maybe there's, like like I said,
Speaker 1: someone with Lyddy and her mom, but there's nothing I
Speaker 1: feel that needs to be at it, and there's something
Speaker 1: that feels that needs to be cut either where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this doesn't work, like everything moves at a good pace.
Speaker 1: The death, the reveals, the multiple universes, and that's all
Speaker 1: just fun stuff too. So it just kind of is
Speaker 1: my bag of stuff of just dark, dark, comedic, weird things.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a A twenty four if they made
Speaker 1: a comedy, you know, I'll say it that way. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll just drop a ten because I can't. I think
Speaker 1: just how much I've enjoyed it over the years. So
Speaker 1: I'm hoping and I will say I'm not expecting the
Speaker 1: sequel does not have to be like a ten to
Speaker 1: ten for me, enjoy it. If I can get a
Speaker 1: seven out of ten, I'm perfectly happy with that score,
Speaker 1: you know, like, if that can be the range. If
Speaker 1: we started to blow, then you're gonna get maybe a
Speaker 1: disappointed Travis next week. But I hope not to be,
Speaker 1: and we will be here next week talking about Beal Juice,
Speaker 1: Beal Juice, and I'll not be boring.
Speaker 4: See you by m HM