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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>The image that you said, what did you call it?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, but to PISTI, what'd you call it?

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<v Speaker 3>She going somewhere left? Bring her her artistic news here

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<v Speaker 3>in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of stories that we are following today, We

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned that Lester Holt was gonna leave as the managing

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<v Speaker 2>enter of NBC's nightly news Well, MSNBC changed up its

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<v Speaker 2>weeknight lineup. Joy Reid, for example, lost her show Southern

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<v Speaker 2>California's recent unusually warm and temperatures expected to ramp up

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<v Speaker 2>over the next couple of days. National Weather Services Downtown

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<v Speaker 2>LA was about fourteen degrees a puff normal yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait who lost her show?

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<v Speaker 3>Joy read?

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Wagner also apparently is gonna I guess Rachel maddout listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't watch MSNBC.

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<v Speaker 2>I apologize, Rachel Maddow does a show one day a week,

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<v Speaker 2>like on Mondays and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Other never watched MSNBC for that reason. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is about her. I don't mean I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anything about her, But the clips that I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>of her very off putting to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of her style, because I would say it's because

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<v Speaker 2>of her style among others.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a vague memory of her doing a

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<v Speaker 1>wait till you see. We have all this evidence of X,

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<v Speaker 1>Y and Z, and there was no there there. And

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<v Speaker 1>once people lie to me tax documents, Okay, once people

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<v Speaker 1>lie to me, I kind of tune them out forever.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you you were late.

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<v Speaker 1>I was late. Sorry, I was making a piece of toast.

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<v Speaker 3>What did you call this picture that you sent me?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, A piata takay. I believe that means

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of Mary and.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus, So I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know for sure, but I believe that this

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<v Speaker 2>is a rep unless it's the original. If it is,

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<v Speaker 2>it's worth a lot of money, a reproduction of Raphael's Madonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Dela said, Giola, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Which means Madonna? And the said Giola, who's the other person?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Gabriel? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually it's John the Baptist. John.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is John the Baptist a child?

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<v Speaker 3>Because there was everybody was a child at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, was John the Baptist a child? When oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. So he kind of grew up with Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>They were, oh cool, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>The fattest that's the fattest depiction of a baby Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it took a while of wandering through the desert

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<v Speaker 1>for him to get that thin.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think he dropped weight? Is that why he was?

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<v Speaker 1>He was he was getting breast milk at this time. Gary,

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<v Speaker 1>when you got breast milk, you were plumped too. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a good point, that is that is probably And then

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have breast milk for forever, and you get

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<v Speaker 1>skinnier politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipox.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we got The real problem is that our leaders

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<v Speaker 2>are done.

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<v Speaker 1>The other side never quits.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I'm not going anywhere So that you train the.

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<v Speaker 3>Squad, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened

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<v Speaker 3>by what has been. You know, Americans have always been gone.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Why have the people voted for you? With na swap watch?

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<v Speaker 2>They're all count of well, all of DC and basically

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<v Speaker 2>around the country. If you're a federal employee, you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of lost your mind over the weekend when Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 2>put out an email that says, please reply to this

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<v Speaker 2>email with approximately five bullets of what you accomplished this

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<v Speaker 2>week and c see your manager later on. He said

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<v Speaker 2>failure to respond to the email would be treated as

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<v Speaker 2>a resignation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you and I don't have real job that is

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<v Speaker 1>asked an answered, But for many people who do that

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard from this is normal in many different industries

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<v Speaker 1>of a weekly what have you done this week? Report,

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<v Speaker 1>weekly progress reports, I guess you could call them productivity reports,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. It's pretty not it's I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say it's common because I don't know firsthand, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a rare ask.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, and it's there are things the other The

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<v Speaker 2>second line of the email was please do not send

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<v Speaker 2>any classified information links or attachments. Deadline is this Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>eleven fifty nine pm Eastern Standard time. Already we have

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<v Speaker 2>seen heads of agencies say you guys, relax, don't worry

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<v Speaker 2>about it. That being FBI Director Cash Patel, Director of

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<v Speaker 2>National Intelligence Tulsea Gabbard. I even think Pam Bondy has

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<v Speaker 2>said that if you were working for the FBI specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>or other law enforcement agencies under the Department of Justice,

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 3>We got you now. I don't know how this goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's a flood of emails that

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<v Speaker 2>go into Elon Musk or the Office of Personnel Management

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<v Speaker 2>at eight fifty eight or eleven fifty eight pm tonight

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern Standard time. But this, again, it's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things where we've seen in the first six weeks of

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<v Speaker 2>this administration, the negotiation, the negotiating tactic that Trump has used,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's tariffs or Ukraine and Russia or whatever. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like Elon Musk is echoing that same kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sentiment, which is, you come in with a giant

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<v Speaker 2>sledgehammer and you threaten to start smashing all of the

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<v Speaker 2>china in the china shop, and then when people start

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<v Speaker 2>offering up, oh, actually this this piece is already broken.

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<v Speaker 2>We can get rid of that one. We'd it appears

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<v Speaker 2>that that's what this is, but it also general rated

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<v Speaker 2>a whole mess of undo concern about Hey, just tell

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<v Speaker 2>remind your boss why you were hired in the first place,

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<v Speaker 2>and what it is that you do every day.

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<v Speaker 1>So I, as a human, I think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>human thing. Maybe not, but I have had this reflex

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<v Speaker 1>to things in my past of a boss saying hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can you do this and being like and having the

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<v Speaker 1>reaction right away of are you freaking kidding me? Why

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<v Speaker 1>would I have to do that? And blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you sit down and you stop reacting,

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it, You're like, that's reasonable. I can

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<v Speaker 1>do that, you know what I mean, whether it's a

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<v Speaker 1>any request at work, really, if it's from a boss

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<v Speaker 1>or it's from a manager, or it's from anybody where

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, for the love of God, And then

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, uh, that's really not that big of a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>That will take me a minute and a half. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why I'm reacting like this. Could it have

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<v Speaker 1>been done differently, yes, But is it really that big

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<v Speaker 1>of a deal in the grand scheme of things.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we've all probably had that feeling, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm just a crazy person. But in that vein

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<v Speaker 1>of what you just mentioned of the negotiation tactics and

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<v Speaker 1>coming in with the big bat the Trump administration now,

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<v Speaker 1>they say, is backing off that weekend mandate that they

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<v Speaker 1>must submit these five things. According to Politico, an administration

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<v Speaker 1>official granted anonymity to share details about the White House's

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<v Speaker 1>thinking said this morning that federal employees should defer to

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<v Speaker 1>their agencies on how to respond to a government wide

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<v Speaker 1>email that they got that agency heads have told employees

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<v Speaker 1>not to respond. And this is middle management getting in

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<v Speaker 1>the way. Right, let's not gloss over what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with Elon Musk going directly to the rank and file

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<v Speaker 1>employees and telling him what you do. As this way,

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<v Speaker 1>he's weeding out all the middle managers, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>their job right to go in and ask the people

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing, if that's something that they do. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's going over their heads and going straight to the employees.

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<v Speaker 1>So think about how many middle management people this is

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<v Speaker 1>pissing off because they suddenly have no control and no power.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's really the big deal when you think

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<v Speaker 2>There has been a coalition of unions and groups that

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<v Speaker 2>have been fighting mass layoffs have already amended their lawsuit

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<v Speaker 2>to include the US Officer Personnel Management over this email

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<v Speaker 2>that supposedly went out, and the lawsuit says that the

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<v Speaker 2>administration did not follow the proper procedure for an order

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<v Speaker 2>like this, that it should be voided by a judge.

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<v Speaker 2>There are also questions about what I mean. Obviously, a

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<v Speaker 2>post on Twitter does not carry with it any sort

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<v Speaker 2>of legality. It's a post on Twitter. It's the email

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<v Speaker 2>itself that supposedly went out to these federal employees. And

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<v Speaker 2>who if you don't read the email but still go

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<v Speaker 2>to work. Elon Musk is saying you didn't read the email,

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<v Speaker 2>that counts as a resign.

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<v Speaker 3>When people are still going to work.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, I got five thousand other emails that I

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<v Speaker 2>got to read that I still do have an important

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<v Speaker 2>job in the federal government, whatever it might be, and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have time to respond to your puffy.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know game what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just this is one of another example of yet

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<v Speaker 2>the courts are going to have to get involved.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to have to figure this out.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that President Trump is hosting French President Emmanuel

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<v Speaker 2>Markron at the White House and they're supposed to do

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<v Speaker 2>a news conference in It was supposed to start fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>minutes ago. But I'm assuming this is one of those

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<v Speaker 2>questions that President Trump's going to be asked about today.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the bloat and the bureaucracy involved with cutting

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<v Speaker 1>the bloat and bureaucracy is going to be mind numbing,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. An official has said that Trump was not

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<v Speaker 1>a part of this approval process for the email, but

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<v Speaker 1>that he did on specifically tell Elon to be more aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>A senior official in the national security area said that

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<v Speaker 1>they're worried about unintended consequences. The concern, they said, is

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<v Speaker 1>that information gives a robust data set that could be

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<v Speaker 1>used not by people in our own government, by people

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<v Speaker 1>outside of our own government. If you've got national security

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<v Speaker 1>people talking to Elon Musk in an email about what

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<v Speaker 1>they did this week, I guess that would be the concern.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just all cover your own ass. We're too important

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<v Speaker 1>to be asked what we do, right. I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that going on in.

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<v Speaker 2>DC when we come back. There's this push to get

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<v Speaker 2>these younger more intelligence is not the right word. How

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<v Speaker 2>about just we'll just say younger. Younger people involved in

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican Party and conservative politics, and some of these

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<v Speaker 2>young guys that have been brought in to work with

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<v Speaker 2>the Elon Musk are acting as that magnet to getting

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<v Speaker 2>people into the Republican Party.

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<v Speaker 1>That an article this morning about crossing shortage in DC

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<v Speaker 1>area because forty three percent of the applicants are failing

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<v Speaker 1>the drug test. They've got a bunch of dozens of

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<v Speaker 1>crossing guard vacancies for kids going to school in the

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's failing because of weed, which seems antiquated.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Driving home last night from Arizona, there were two sections.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them was right through Palm Springs on Iten

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<v Speaker 2>People are gonna do what they're gonna do, regardless of

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, man, the last time you did grass was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was strong? It was strong? Try going to Doc

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<v Speaker 1>Scott's chemistry class after that lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, there are there are a couple of ways to

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<v Speaker 2>look at whatever Elon Musk is doing. You know this,

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<v Speaker 2>dedicated to government efficiency and making the federal government work better.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that he has been doing is

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<v Speaker 2>employing young geniuses. I don't know anybody who questions the

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<v Speaker 2>validity of that statement. These people are young coders. Their

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<v Speaker 2>curriculum vita is just unmatched when it comes to how

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats can laugh all they want or turn up their

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<v Speaker 1>because this is a crew of engineers, mostly of whom

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<v Speaker 1>This comes at a time when young progressives have criticized

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party for sidelining them. The democratics party hold

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans are using this as a marketing strategy and it's working,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why, to go back to what I was

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<v Speaker 1>that's great for self care. You probably should because people

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, that point of Democrats paying attention, I

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<v Speaker 2>of different headlines. I've seen a lot of different interviews

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<v Speaker 2>with prominent Democrats who say, we're doing this wrong. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not paying attention. We're still arguing the issues of ten

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. We're still complaining about how, you know, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>small group of people over here. Their rights are not

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<v Speaker 2>being their rights are not being honored. And you think

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<v Speaker 2>of like Bill Maher, who is not conservative in any way,

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<v Speaker 2>would would completely recoil at that thought. Has been taking

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<v Speaker 2>to task democratic leadership and saying, you guys have got

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<v Speaker 2>to do some of the absolute basics. You've got to

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<v Speaker 2>be pro union, you've got to be pro worker, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to do these things that that traditional liberals have done,

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<v Speaker 2>but not the progressive part wing of the party. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, brother, that's what they say.

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<v Speaker 3>They say. Amen.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go back to your boobs briefly, because

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<v Speaker 1>I got a couple of messages and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Said that every time I go on, I said that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen your boobs. Everybody has seen Gary's breasts.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not hard to They're not hard to find.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really not if you, if you, if you do

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<v Speaker 1>your due diligence, you can track them down. Because sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>he takes off his top when he's performing in adult

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<v Speaker 1>theater productions. So that is how I've seen his breasts.

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<v Speaker 3>People were asking for clarifications.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I really wanted to just put a bow

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<v Speaker 1>on your breasts.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I appreciate that as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello Gary and Shannon. Last week I called. It was

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<v Speaker 4>the first time I called because people were just being

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<v Speaker 4>mean to Gary.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they weren't.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm kind of thinking what they missed most of

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<v Speaker 4>all about Shannon is her laugh. You have such a

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<v Speaker 4>joyful laugh. It makes me laugh every time. I love

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<v Speaker 4>you both. God bless you, and I hope all is

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<v Speaker 4>well with your mom or continues to get better and

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<v Speaker 4>made the pope rest in peace. That's my mom and my.

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<v Speaker 3>Will.

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<v Speaker 1>But he should be resting peacefully right now.

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<v Speaker 3>That is very true, and I will take it that way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>let's hope you rests peacefully, not rest in peace yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I give the announcement thirty six hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, we're not taking bets.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No is there on prize picks. No, it was

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<v Speaker 1>an adventure setting up this studio in my mother's house.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Yeah, how to go? I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>worked well, clearly well. I reached out to two people

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<v Speaker 1>rich and engineering, Yeah, Jacob, But turns out an idiot

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<v Speaker 1>can do this, So I wasn't as technically inept as

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was.

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<v Speaker 3>They do make it these days. They do pretty full.

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<v Speaker 1>Proof which is I did have to get a cable?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you did? Uh huh oh okay to hard wire.

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<v Speaker 2>See see yeah, yeah, to go the old hat six

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<v Speaker 1>How did you know it is a cat?

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<v Speaker 3>Say?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I actually it's a cat eight. Take that and effort.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was five ninety nine too.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa oh, keep that receipt.

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<v Speaker 2>French President of Manuel Macron is in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>He is expected to hold a news conference with President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump here in a short time. I don't know which

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<v Speaker 2>room that is there in the White House. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the gold drapes. The east room we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Could be the Lincoln bedroom where Lincoln never slept. Something

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<v Speaker 1>we learned on the Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a push to get the Jeffrey Epstein files release.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee is now calling on FBI

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<v Speaker 2>new director Cash Betel to follow through on his commitment

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<v Speaker 2>to transparency. She asked that Patel and the IRS Commissioner

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<v Speaker 2>released their respective agencies complete unredacted records on Jeffrey Epstein.

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<v Speaker 2>She said this critical information identifying every individual who could

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<v Speaker 2>have participated in Jeffrey Epstein's abhorrent conduct is long overdue.

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<v Speaker 3>Careful what you wish for.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to a friend out here. She's in

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<v Speaker 1>her seventies, and she's so frustrated because she's been waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for shoulder surgery for eight months. She's got very little

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<v Speaker 1>mobility in her shoulder. She needs help from her kids.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the whole thing. She said, I'm just so angry

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<v Speaker 1>and frustrated with the healthcare industry and how long things take,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the zoom calls with physicians, how everyone

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<v Speaker 1>by the way of concierge medicine, and it's really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get appointments, an appointment with a specialist. My god,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what she's had to wait eight months for. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think the rising violence against US health care workers

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<v Speaker 1>is not far removed from that feeling with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people in this country right now. Just frustration and

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<v Speaker 1>anger towards the whole industry, which is taken out on

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<v Speaker 1>What happened in Pennsylvania over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this forty nine year old guy carries a pistol

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<v Speaker 2>and zip ties into the ICU at UPMC Memorial Hospital

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<v Speaker 2>in York County and takes at least one person hostage.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently was holding a woman at gunpoint, a female staff member.

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<v Speaker 2>He had zip tied her hands when officers were able

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<v Speaker 2>to shoot and kill him. The attack also injured a doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>a nurse, a custodian. There were two other police officers

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<v Speaker 2>who were injured in all of this. He had targeted

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital, they said, and but they haven't said yet why.

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<v Speaker 2>They do know that he did have contact with someone

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<v Speaker 2>at the ICU, like he was there to visit someone,

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<v Speaker 2>or he had a family member who's being treated at

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<v Speaker 2>the ICU there, but they hadn't gotten specifics about what

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<v Speaker 2>happened that made this guy lose his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about the ICU. Your wife worked in the ICU.

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<v Speaker 1>The ICU is a very tense, very protected area of

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital. It cares for the most at risk, the people,

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<v Speaker 1>the people that are closest to not walk out of

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<v Speaker 1>It is very tense and it is the best of

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<v Speaker 1>imagine someone walking in with a pistol and zip ties

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Already nursing ratios are so strained. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that somebody walked in with a pistol and zip ties

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<v Speaker 1>and effectively shut down the ICU, just an ICU being

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<v Speaker 1>interrupted for normal circumstances is a major thing. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even imagine what the stress level in that

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<v Speaker 2>Megan Foles is a nurse at a different hospital. They

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<v Speaker 2>actually took some of the people from this attack to

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<v Speaker 2>her hospital, and she's been at the ICU for almost

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years, and she says, in that critical care environment,

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be heightened emotions. People are losing loved ones.

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<v Speaker 2>There can be gang violence, domestic violence, and neebriated individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the stories that my wife told from the

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<v Speaker 2>ICU about the just each whatever, each patient brought with

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<v Speaker 2>them their own ecosystem of issues. Sometimes it's just grandma's

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<v Speaker 2>family and they're all there to support grandma and hope

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<v Speaker 2>that she gets better, but she's in the ICU so

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<v Speaker 2>not always looking great, and other times it's like wait,

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, How did that guy get shot?

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<v Speaker 1>Again?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you guys tell me how and why. There's like

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<v Speaker 2>two women who are never in the same room at

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<v Speaker 3>Think they're the guy's wife. I mean, there's it.

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<v Speaker 2>They can all bring with them, just different layers, their

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<v Speaker 2>nurse said, Megan full said, there's heightened emotions. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>This is not the first case, Like we mentioned, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a rising issue. Last year, a man shot two corrections

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<v Speaker 1>a gang member who a crime of opportunity. In twenty

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<v Speaker 1>a guy opened fire in an er waiting because he

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<v Speaker 1>he blamed the doctor for his continuing pain after an operation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like you said, it's heightened emotions anytime it's

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<v Speaker 1>involving a hospital or any sort of treatment. But you

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<v Speaker 1>just started shooting people about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and then obviously the super high profile murder or

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<v Speaker 2>the United CEO or United Healthcare CEO because it's not

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<v Speaker 2>hospital related, but it's obviously healthcare related.

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<v Speaker 3>Right all right, up next this.

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<v Speaker 2>We've said it many many times that vaping is bad,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know why we have to continue to

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<v Speaker 2>say this, But now they're suggesting that it's more dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>than smoking because this new study says it raises the

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<v Speaker 2>risk of three different deadly diseases.

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<v Speaker 3>Gosh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny how things went, things changed so much to

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<v Speaker 1>where and I've talked about it for when I quit smoking,

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<v Speaker 1>how it was just so like you were an outcast

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<v Speaker 1>and you would go into like an alley to hide

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<v Speaker 1>smoking your cigarette, and you try to be as low

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<v Speaker 1>profile as possible, you know, just hiding and not wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to make it look like you were creating a big

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And the next incarnation is people with their

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<v Speaker 1>vape pipes, making the biggest deal out of smoking that

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<v Speaker 1>is been made with the clouds of smoke. Like, let

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<v Speaker 1>me see how much attention I can get from the

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<v Speaker 1>cloud of smoke I will exude.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, we mentioned the Screen Actors Guild Awards last

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<v Speaker 2>night conclave. The movie took the Marquee Ensemble in Emotion

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<v Speaker 2>Picture Prize. The drama from Focused Features also won Best

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<v Speaker 2>Film at the BAFTA Awards sort of. The British Academy

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<v Speaker 2>Awards is up for eight Academy Award nominations that those

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<v Speaker 2>will be handed.

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<v Speaker 3>Out next weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna go see that movie?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know enough about the Catholic papacy to be

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<v Speaker 2>a good judge.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I like I like the Dan Brown stuff because that was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously more of a thriller style movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I like Ray Fines or Ralph for

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<v Speaker 3>however you say, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think I figured out what the thing is about the

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<v Speaker 1>which doesn't involve the penis? Am I closer?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I mean there is one, right, but there's other

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<v Speaker 3>stuff exactly right. That's what I again.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just it happens. That happens to people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it does.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's that uncommon. It happens, it does.

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<v Speaker 3>Help, It does happen. That doesn't mean it's not uncommon.

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump is holding a news conference right now with

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<v Speaker 2>the Emmanuel Macrone at the White House.

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<v Speaker 3>That you used to see there, they were most beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>in the world, they say, are lying in heaps of

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<v Speaker 3>rubble blasted to smitherines. It's time to end this blood

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<v Speaker 3>bleedding and.

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<v Speaker 1>Restore peace, and I think we're going to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had some great conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>He's talking again with the French president, not just about

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<v Speaker 2>our relationship between the two countries, but also how it

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<v Speaker 2>plays into Europe and European countries coming to the table

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<v Speaker 2>to help with Ukraine coming to some sort of an

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<v Speaker 2>agreement to end that war.

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<v Speaker 1>The hyperbole starts to lose its sparkle after a while,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it. When everything's the best, not everything, but when

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<v Speaker 1>many things are the best, or the prettiest, or the

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<v Speaker 1>most or the biggest, then nothing is right.

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<v Speaker 3>When everybody's special, that no one is right.

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<v Speaker 1>A friend to all is a friend of none.

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<v Speaker 2>Regular use of e cigarettes, vapes, whatever it could put

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<v Speaker 2>you at risk of dementia, heart disease, and organ failure.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't you just a little angel at death?

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<v Speaker 2>Vapes are generally considered safer than cigarettes and a useful

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<v Speaker 2>tool for quitting smoking, at least that's the way they

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<v Speaker 2>were first pitched. But surveys have found about eight percent

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<v Speaker 2>of adults never actually smoked.

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<v Speaker 3>They just went straight to the vape thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The other really, the other aspect of this, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know that part of it is a generational thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was just gonna say what age of adults,

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume it's the young the young bracket, like

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen to twenty five or whatever, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the smoking part of smoking, the cigarette part of

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<v Speaker 2>smoking was they didn't have like I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>men falls, but even a men fall cigarette, you still

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<v Speaker 2>got smoke in there, so you're dealing with that in

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<v Speaker 2>your mouth and lungs.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anyone that was a smoker that went

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<v Speaker 1>to vape pens or whatever they're called vaping things.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean? You don't know any smokers who

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<v Speaker 3>did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like people who smoked cigarettes that then went to the

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<v Speaker 1>vape machine and all of them that did that, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>do you Yeah? The people that I know that smoked

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<v Speaker 1>cigarettes still smoke cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 2>This well and that point of you know, the eight

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<v Speaker 2>percent or however, many of it say that they never

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<v Speaker 2>smoked a cigarette before I went straight to vape. That's

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<v Speaker 2>because if you're fourteen, you're not gonna want to put

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<v Speaker 2>smoke in your mouth. You want raspberry dazzle or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they call them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, just because you smoke raspberry dazzle doesn't mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's go to.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't smoke it, I make it okay.

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<v Speaker 2>There's new research out of a British university, Manchester Metropolitan University,

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<v Speaker 2>says e cigarettes allow you to inhale nicotine in a

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<v Speaker 2>vapor form, which is of course produced by heating that

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<v Speaker 2>liquid typically containing propylene, glycoal, glycerine, flavorings and other chemicals.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're saying this high nicotine content increases your heart

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<v Speaker 2>rate and your blood pressure, it makes blood vessels constricted,

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<v Speaker 2>and it damages your artery walls. They said that smokers

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<v Speaker 2>also tend to go outside and smoke, and once a

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<v Speaker 2>cigarette is finished, you got to go through the process

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<v Speaker 2>of I mean, it's not a huge speed bump, but

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<v Speaker 2>you got to go through the process of lighting up

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<v Speaker 2>another cigarette to keep going. Whereas part of the fun,

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<v Speaker 2>you're part of the addiction, the lighting and the all

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<v Speaker 2>of it. There was always something about the first drag

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<v Speaker 2>on a cigarette. Not when I would smoke, but I

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<v Speaker 2>mean if someone was smoking that just the smell of

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<v Speaker 2>the match and that first cigarette. After that it got bad.

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<v Speaker 1>But for some reason, I mean, it starts before that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's first the like psychological I'm gonna have a cigarette high.

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<v Speaker 1>You get of already feeling relaxed because you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>about to have a cigarette, and then starts all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very it's it's insane the way it screws with

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<v Speaker 1>your brain. Quitting smoking is like the hardest thing. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done heroin, so I don't know what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to quit. But oh my god, what a beast

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<v Speaker 1>quitting smoking was. I mean it took three tries over

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<v Speaker 1>several years. It's impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you figure you you finally did it? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>is it is just a patience?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess yeah. I mean you want to. You know

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad for you, you know it's killing you, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>that powerful. It's just it's insane. I feel I have

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<v Speaker 1>got friends that I was just texting with my cousin

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<v Speaker 1>today and she's like, I need to quit smoking right away.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to do it right away. It's just so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>And my other friends this whole smoke same thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like they know they've got to quit. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the tests that was done on this, the

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<v Speaker 2>mediated dilation test, A cuff is put on your arm

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<v Speaker 2>like a blood pressure cuff. How much the artery expands

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<v Speaker 2>as more blood has passed through it. They said smokers

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<v Speaker 2>and vapors achieve a flat reading, which means their artery

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<v Speaker 2>walls were damaged. They can no longer dilate, and almost

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<v Speaker 2>a certain sign of serious cardiovascular problems in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>That both smokers and vapors their blood flow is similarly

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<v Speaker 2>impaired puts them at risk of developing cognitive dysfunction, which

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<v Speaker 2>includes dementia. And that's beyond whatever long term effects come

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<v Speaker 2>from the superheated toxics. The toxins I should say that

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<v Speaker 2>are in there already that they still have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>how it's going to affect you, because they have been

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<v Speaker 2>around long enough for people to have long term studies

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<v Speaker 2>on that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun is it fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of fun. It sounds like a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up in the next hour, more things that will

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<v Speaker 1>kill you that you enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>We may even have to do a two segment Terror

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<v Speaker 2>in the Skies. You see how many stories we have

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<v Speaker 2>for Terror in the Skies.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot. Man Delta is going through it, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they are having a rough day.

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