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Speaker 2: The image that you said, what did you call it?
Speaker 2: By the way, but to PISTI, what'd you call it?
Speaker 3: She going somewhere left? Bring her her artistic news here
Speaker 3: in just a moment.
Speaker 2: A couple of stories that we are following today, We
Speaker 2: mentioned that Lester Holt was gonna leave as the managing
Speaker 2: enter of NBC's nightly news Well, MSNBC changed up its
Speaker 2: weeknight lineup. Joy Reid, for example, lost her show Southern
Speaker 2: California's recent unusually warm and temperatures expected to ramp up
Speaker 2: over the next couple of days. National Weather Services Downtown
Speaker 2: LA was about fourteen degrees a puff normal yesterday.
Speaker 1: Wait who lost her show?
Speaker 3: Joy read?
Speaker 2: Alex Wagner also apparently is gonna I guess Rachel maddout listen.
Speaker 3: I don't watch MSNBC.
Speaker 2: I apologize, Rachel Maddow does a show one day a week,
Speaker 2: like on Mondays and the.
Speaker 1: Other never watched MSNBC for that reason. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is about her. I don't mean I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about her, But the clips that I've seen
Speaker 1: of her very off putting to me.
Speaker 2: Because of her style, because I would say it's because
Speaker 2: of her style among others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a vague memory of her doing a
Speaker 1: wait till you see. We have all this evidence of X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z, and there was no there there. And
Speaker 1: once people lie to me tax documents, Okay, once people
Speaker 1: lie to me, I kind of tune them out forever.
Speaker 3: Oh you you were late.
Speaker 1: I was late. Sorry, I was making a piece of toast.
Speaker 3: What did you call this picture that you sent me?
Speaker 1: I don't know, A piata takay. I believe that means
Speaker 1: a picture of Mary and.
Speaker 3: Jesus, So I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I don't know for sure, but I believe that this
Speaker 2: is a rep unless it's the original. If it is,
Speaker 2: it's worth a lot of money, a reproduction of Raphael's Madonna.
Speaker 2: Dela said, Giola, what does that mean?
Speaker 3: Which means Madonna? And the said Giola, who's the other person?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 1: Gabriel? No?
Speaker 3: Actually it's John the Baptist. John.
Speaker 1: Why is John the Baptist a child?
Speaker 3: Because there was everybody was a child at one point.
Speaker 1: Wait, was John the Baptist a child? When oh, I
Speaker 1: get it. So he kind of grew up with Jesus.
Speaker 3: They were, oh cool, that's cool.
Speaker 2: The fattest that's the fattest depiction of a baby Jesus
Speaker 2: I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Well, it took a while of wandering through the desert
Speaker 1: for him to get that thin.
Speaker 3: Do you think he dropped weight? Is that why he was?
Speaker 1: He was he was getting breast milk at this time. Gary,
Speaker 1: when you got breast milk, you were plumped too. That's
Speaker 1: a good point, that is that is probably And then
Speaker 1: you can't have breast milk for forever, and you get
Speaker 1: skinnier politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar.
Speaker 3: And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipox.
Speaker 2: Here we got The real problem is that our leaders
Speaker 2: are done.
Speaker 1: The other side never quits.
Speaker 2: So what I'm not going anywhere So that you train the.
Speaker 3: Squad, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened
Speaker 3: by what has been. You know, Americans have always been gone.
Speaker 3: They're not stupid.
Speaker 2: A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3: Why have the people voted for you? With na swap watch?
Speaker 2: They're all count of well, all of DC and basically
Speaker 2: around the country. If you're a federal employee, you kind
Speaker 2: of lost your mind over the weekend when Elon Musk
Speaker 2: put out an email that says, please reply to this
Speaker 2: email with approximately five bullets of what you accomplished this
Speaker 2: week and c see your manager later on. He said
Speaker 2: failure to respond to the email would be treated as
Speaker 2: a resignation.
Speaker 1: Now, you and I don't have real job that is
Speaker 1: asked an answered, But for many people who do that
Speaker 1: I've heard from this is normal in many different industries
Speaker 1: of a weekly what have you done this week? Report,
Speaker 1: weekly progress reports, I guess you could call them productivity reports,
Speaker 1: things like that. It's pretty not it's I don't want
Speaker 1: to say it's common because I don't know firsthand, but
Speaker 1: it's not a rare ask.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and it's there are things the other The
Speaker 2: second line of the email was please do not send
Speaker 2: any classified information links or attachments. Deadline is this Monday,
Speaker 2: eleven fifty nine pm Eastern Standard time. Already we have
Speaker 2: seen heads of agencies say you guys, relax, don't worry
Speaker 2: about it. That being FBI Director Cash Patel, Director of
Speaker 2: National Intelligence Tulsea Gabbard. I even think Pam Bondy has
Speaker 2: said that if you were working for the FBI specifically,
Speaker 2: or other law enforcement agencies under the Department of Justice,
Speaker 2: don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: We got you now. I don't know how this goes.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a flood of emails that
Speaker 2: go into Elon Musk or the Office of Personnel Management
Speaker 2: at eight fifty eight or eleven fifty eight pm tonight
Speaker 2: Eastern Standard time. But this, again, it's one of those
Speaker 2: things where we've seen in the first six weeks of
Speaker 2: this administration, the negotiation, the negotiating tactic that Trump has used,
Speaker 2: whether it's tariffs or Ukraine and Russia or whatever. Now
Speaker 2: it seems like Elon Musk is echoing that same kind
Speaker 2: of sentiment, which is, you come in with a giant
Speaker 2: sledgehammer and you threaten to start smashing all of the
Speaker 2: china in the china shop, and then when people start
Speaker 2: offering up, oh, actually this this piece is already broken.
Speaker 2: We can get rid of that one. We'd it appears
Speaker 2: that that's what this is, but it also general rated
Speaker 2: a whole mess of undo concern about Hey, just tell
Speaker 2: remind your boss why you were hired in the first place,
Speaker 2: and what it is that you do every day.
Speaker 1: So I, as a human, I think this is a
Speaker 1: human thing. Maybe not, but I have had this reflex
Speaker 1: to things in my past of a boss saying hey,
Speaker 1: can you do this and being like and having the
Speaker 1: reaction right away of are you freaking kidding me? Why
Speaker 1: would I have to do that? And blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And then when you sit down and you stop reacting,
Speaker 1: you think about it, You're like, that's reasonable. I can
Speaker 1: do that, you know what I mean, whether it's a
Speaker 1: any request at work, really, if it's from a boss
Speaker 1: or it's from a manager, or it's from anybody where
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, for the love of God, And then
Speaker 1: you're like, uh, that's really not that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: That will take me a minute and a half. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I'm reacting like this. Could it have
Speaker 1: been done differently, yes, But is it really that big
Speaker 1: of a deal in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: And I think we've all probably had that feeling, or
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just a crazy person. But in that vein
Speaker 1: of what you just mentioned of the negotiation tactics and
Speaker 1: coming in with the big bat the Trump administration now,
Speaker 1: they say, is backing off that weekend mandate that they
Speaker 1: must submit these five things. According to Politico, an administration
Speaker 1: official granted anonymity to share details about the White House's
Speaker 1: thinking said this morning that federal employees should defer to
Speaker 1: their agencies on how to respond to a government wide
Speaker 1: email that they got that agency heads have told employees
Speaker 1: not to respond. And this is middle management getting in
Speaker 1: the way. Right, let's not gloss over what's going on
Speaker 1: with Elon Musk going directly to the rank and file
Speaker 1: employees and telling him what you do. As this way,
Speaker 1: he's weeding out all the middle managers, like this is
Speaker 1: their job right to go in and ask the people
Speaker 1: what they're doing, if that's something that they do. But
Speaker 1: he's going over their heads and going straight to the employees.
Speaker 1: So think about how many middle management people this is
Speaker 1: pissing off because they suddenly have no control and no power.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's really the big deal when you think
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: There has been a coalition of unions and groups that
Speaker 2: have been fighting mass layoffs have already amended their lawsuit
Speaker 2: to include the US Officer Personnel Management over this email
Speaker 2: that supposedly went out, and the lawsuit says that the
Speaker 2: administration did not follow the proper procedure for an order
Speaker 2: like this, that it should be voided by a judge.
Speaker 2: There are also questions about what I mean. Obviously, a
Speaker 2: post on Twitter does not carry with it any sort
Speaker 2: of legality. It's a post on Twitter. It's the email
Speaker 2: itself that supposedly went out to these federal employees. And
Speaker 2: who if you don't read the email but still go
Speaker 2: to work. Elon Musk is saying you didn't read the email,
Speaker 2: that counts as a resign.
Speaker 3: When people are still going to work.
Speaker 2: They're like, I got five thousand other emails that I
Speaker 2: got to read that I still do have an important
Speaker 2: job in the federal government, whatever it might be, and
Speaker 2: I didn't have time to respond to your puffy.
Speaker 3: I don't know game what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's just this is one of another example of yet
Speaker 2: the courts are going to have to get involved.
Speaker 3: They're going to have to figure this out.
Speaker 2: We know that President Trump is hosting French President Emmanuel
Speaker 2: Markron at the White House and they're supposed to do
Speaker 2: a news conference in It was supposed to start fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes ago. But I'm assuming this is one of those
Speaker 2: questions that President Trump's going to be asked about today.
Speaker 1: You know, the bloat and the bureaucracy involved with cutting
Speaker 1: the bloat and bureaucracy is going to be mind numbing,
Speaker 1: isn't it. An official has said that Trump was not
Speaker 1: a part of this approval process for the email, but
Speaker 1: that he did on specifically tell Elon to be more aggressive.
Speaker 1: A senior official in the national security area said that
Speaker 1: they're worried about unintended consequences. The concern, they said, is
Speaker 1: that information gives a robust data set that could be
Speaker 1: used not by people in our own government, by people
Speaker 1: outside of our own government. If you've got national security
Speaker 1: people talking to Elon Musk in an email about what
Speaker 1: they did this week, I guess that would be the concern.
Speaker 1: That's just all cover your own ass. We're too important
Speaker 1: to be asked what we do, right. I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: a lot of that going on in.
Speaker 2: DC when we come back. There's this push to get
Speaker 2: these younger more intelligence is not the right word. How
Speaker 2: about just we'll just say younger. Younger people involved in
Speaker 2: the Republican Party and conservative politics, and some of these
Speaker 2: young guys that have been brought in to work with
Speaker 2: the Elon Musk are acting as that magnet to getting
Speaker 2: people into the Republican Party.
Speaker 1: That an article this morning about crossing shortage in DC
Speaker 1: area because forty three percent of the applicants are failing
Speaker 1: the drug test. They've got a bunch of dozens of
Speaker 1: crossing guard vacancies for kids going to school in the
Speaker 1: DC metro area and nobody can pass the drug test,
Speaker 1: and everyone's failing because of weed, which seems antiquated.
Speaker 3: Oh Man.
Speaker 2: Driving home last night from Arizona, there were two sections.
Speaker 2: One of them was right through Palm Springs on Iten
Speaker 2: and the other one was on the two ten, just
Speaker 2: as you get in towards Pasadena, and not that those places,
Speaker 2: it's just that that's where we were, and somebody was
Speaker 2: just getting baked in their care.
Speaker 1: I've gotten high on the five going through the area
Speaker 1: where there's that mall, like right like before you hit
Speaker 1: the six oh five in your five south the Citadel.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh my god. With the track in the
Speaker 1: afternoon backs up there, it is hard not to get high,
Speaker 1: but just contact high.
Speaker 3: It's it's listen.
Speaker 2: People are gonna do what they're gonna do, regardless of
Speaker 2: what you say is smart and not. It just doesn't
Speaker 2: seem smart when you're doing I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know because I haven't done weed, and many done weed.
Speaker 1: There you go, that's all you need to hear, right,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. But I remember as a youth,
Speaker 1: there's no way I could drive a car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean, especially if you're doing if
Speaker 2: you're doing seventy five to keep up with traffic.
Speaker 1: I could barely walk down the street, let alone drive
Speaker 1: a car.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, the last time you did grass was.
Speaker 1: It was strong? It was strong? Try going to Doc
Speaker 1: Scott's chemistry class after that lunch.
Speaker 2: Uh, there are there are a couple of ways to
Speaker 2: look at whatever Elon Musk is doing. You know this,
Speaker 2: this unelected government guy who is running willy nilly with
Speaker 2: a brazili and chainsaw through the government, or a guy
Speaker 2: dedicated to government efficiency and making the federal government work better.
Speaker 2: One of the things that he has been doing is
Speaker 2: employing young geniuses. I don't know anybody who questions the
Speaker 2: validity of that statement. These people are young coders. Their
Speaker 2: curriculum vita is just unmatched when it comes to how
Speaker 2: smart these guys are.
Speaker 1: Democrats can laugh all they want or turn up their
Speaker 1: noses at Elon Musk, but you got to pay attention
Speaker 1: because this is a crew of engineers, mostly of whom
Speaker 1: are in their twenties, and they're described as among the
Speaker 1: world's best minds to save this country from bureaucratic bloat.
Speaker 1: This comes at a time when young progressives have criticized
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party for sidelining them. The democratics party hold
Speaker 1: on younger votes is slipping, particularly among young men. So
Speaker 1: Republicans are using this as a marketing strategy and it's working,
Speaker 1: which is why, to go back to what I was
Speaker 1: saying earlier, Democrats were just not paying attention to all this. Well,
Speaker 1: that's great for self care. You probably should because people
Speaker 1: are feeling increasingly alienated by this party and it's just
Speaker 1: getting worse.
Speaker 2: And I mean, that point of Democrats paying attention, I
Speaker 2: think is kind of lost because we've seen a lot
Speaker 2: of different headlines. I've seen a lot of different interviews
Speaker 2: with prominent Democrats who say, we're doing this wrong. We're
Speaker 2: not paying attention. We're still arguing the issues of ten
Speaker 2: years ago. We're still complaining about how, you know, whatever
Speaker 2: small group of people over here. Their rights are not
Speaker 2: being their rights are not being honored. And you think
Speaker 2: of like Bill Maher, who is not conservative in any way,
Speaker 2: would would completely recoil at that thought. Has been taking
Speaker 2: to task democratic leadership and saying, you guys have got
Speaker 2: to do some of the absolute basics. You've got to
Speaker 2: be pro union, you've got to be pro worker, you've
Speaker 2: got to do these things that that traditional liberals have done,
Speaker 2: but not the progressive part wing of the party. Don't
Speaker 2: let those people control what is supposed to be the
Speaker 2: more centrist Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: Amen, brother, that's what they say.
Speaker 3: They say. Amen.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to your boobs briefly, because
Speaker 1: I got a couple of messages and I.
Speaker 3: Said that every time I go on, I said that.
Speaker 1: I've seen your boobs. Everybody has seen Gary's breasts.
Speaker 3: It's not hard to They're not hard to find.
Speaker 1: It's really not if you, if you, if you do
Speaker 1: your due diligence, you can track them down. Because sometimes
Speaker 1: he takes off his top when he's performing in adult
Speaker 1: theater productions. So that is how I've seen his breasts.
Speaker 3: People were asking for clarifications.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I really wanted to just put a bow
Speaker 1: on your breasts.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that as well.
Speaker 4: Hello Gary and Shannon. Last week I called. It was
Speaker 4: the first time I called because people were just being
Speaker 4: mean to Gary.
Speaker 3: No, they weren't.
Speaker 4: But I'm kind of thinking what they missed most of
Speaker 4: all about Shannon is her laugh. You have such a
Speaker 4: joyful laugh. It makes me laugh every time. I love
Speaker 4: you both. God bless you, and I hope all is
Speaker 4: well with your mom or continues to get better and
Speaker 4: made the pope rest in peace. That's my mom and my.
Speaker 3: Will.
Speaker 1: But he should be resting peacefully right now.
Speaker 3: That is very true, and I will take it that way. Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's hope you rests peacefully, not rest in peace yet.
Speaker 1: I give the announcement thirty six hours.
Speaker 3: Uh, we're not taking bets.
Speaker 1: No, No is there on prize picks. No, it was
Speaker 1: an adventure setting up this studio in my mother's house.
Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, how to go? I mean it
Speaker 1: worked well, clearly well. I reached out to two people
Speaker 1: rich and engineering, Yeah, Jacob, But turns out an idiot
Speaker 1: can do this, So I wasn't as technically inept as
Speaker 1: I thought I was.
Speaker 3: They do make it these days. They do pretty full.
Speaker 1: Proof which is I did have to get a cable?
Speaker 3: Oh you did? Uh huh oh okay to hard wire.
Speaker 2: See see yeah, yeah, to go the old hat six
Speaker 2: cable there hard Yeah.
Speaker 1: How did you know it is a cat?
Speaker 3: Say?
Speaker 1: No, I actually it's a cat eight. Take that and effort.
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was five ninety nine too.
Speaker 3: Whoa oh, keep that receipt.
Speaker 2: French President of Manuel Macron is in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2: He is expected to hold a news conference with President
Speaker 2: Trump here in a short time. I don't know which
Speaker 2: room that is there in the White House. It's one
Speaker 2: of the gold drapes. The east room we'll see.
Speaker 1: Could be the Lincoln bedroom where Lincoln never slept. Something
Speaker 1: we learned on the Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2: There's a push to get the Jeffrey Epstein files release.
Speaker 2: Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee is now calling on FBI
Speaker 2: new director Cash Betel to follow through on his commitment
Speaker 2: to transparency. She asked that Patel and the IRS Commissioner
Speaker 2: released their respective agencies complete unredacted records on Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2: She said this critical information identifying every individual who could
Speaker 2: have participated in Jeffrey Epstein's abhorrent conduct is long overdue.
Speaker 3: Careful what you wish for.
Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend out here. She's in
Speaker 1: her seventies, and she's so frustrated because she's been waiting
Speaker 1: for shoulder surgery for eight months. She's got very little
Speaker 1: mobility in her shoulder. She needs help from her kids.
Speaker 1: It's the whole thing. She said, I'm just so angry
Speaker 1: and frustrated with the healthcare industry and how long things take,
Speaker 1: and you know, the zoom calls with physicians, how everyone
Speaker 1: kind of checked out after COVID went to kind of
Speaker 1: by the way of concierge medicine, and it's really hard
Speaker 1: to get appointments, an appointment with a specialist. My god,
Speaker 1: that's what she's had to wait eight months for. And
Speaker 1: I think the rising violence against US health care workers
Speaker 1: is not far removed from that feeling with a lot
Speaker 1: of people in this country right now. Just frustration and
Speaker 1: anger towards the whole industry, which is taken out on
Speaker 1: people that it should not be taken out on.
Speaker 4: I e.
Speaker 1: What happened in Pennsylvania over the weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this forty nine year old guy carries a pistol
Speaker 2: and zip ties into the ICU at UPMC Memorial Hospital
Speaker 2: in York County and takes at least one person hostage.
Speaker 2: Apparently was holding a woman at gunpoint, a female staff member.
Speaker 2: He had zip tied her hands when officers were able
Speaker 2: to shoot and kill him. The attack also injured a doctor,
Speaker 2: a nurse, a custodian. There were two other police officers
Speaker 2: who were injured in all of this. He had targeted
Speaker 2: the hospital, they said, and but they haven't said yet why.
Speaker 2: They do know that he did have contact with someone
Speaker 2: at the ICU, like he was there to visit someone,
Speaker 2: or he had a family member who's being treated at
Speaker 2: the ICU there, but they hadn't gotten specifics about what
Speaker 2: happened that made this guy lose his mind.
Speaker 1: Think about the ICU. Your wife worked in the ICU.
Speaker 1: The ICU is a very tense, very protected area of
Speaker 1: the hospital. It cares for the most at risk, the people,
Speaker 1: the people that are closest to not walk out of
Speaker 1: that hospital or being wheeled out or what have you.
Speaker 1: It is very tense and it is the best of
Speaker 1: the best when it comes to the nurses there. And
Speaker 1: imagine someone walking in with a pistol and zip ties
Speaker 1: like that. Already nursing ratios are so strained. The fact
Speaker 1: that somebody walked in with a pistol and zip ties
Speaker 1: and effectively shut down the ICU, just an ICU being
Speaker 1: interrupted for normal circumstances is a major thing. The fact
Speaker 1: that somebody is carrying out an attack on an ICU.
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what the stress level in that
Speaker 1: situation would be for everybody involved.
Speaker 2: Megan Foles is a nurse at a different hospital. They
Speaker 2: actually took some of the people from this attack to
Speaker 2: her hospital, and she's been at the ICU for almost
Speaker 2: twenty years, and she says, in that critical care environment,
Speaker 2: there's going to be heightened emotions. People are losing loved ones.
Speaker 2: There can be gang violence, domestic violence, and neebriated individuals.
Speaker 2: I mean the stories that my wife told from the
Speaker 2: ICU about the just each whatever, each patient brought with
Speaker 2: them their own ecosystem of issues. Sometimes it's just grandma's
Speaker 2: grandma fell or something like that, and it's a lovely
Speaker 2: family and they're all there to support grandma and hope
Speaker 2: that she gets better, but she's in the ICU so
Speaker 2: not always looking great, and other times it's like wait,
Speaker 2: a minute, How did that guy get shot?
Speaker 1: Again?
Speaker 2: Can you guys tell me how and why. There's like
Speaker 2: two women who are never in the same room at
Speaker 2: the same time, and maybe they both might be the
Speaker 2: guy's wife or they.
Speaker 3: Think they're the guy's wife. I mean, there's it.
Speaker 2: They can all bring with them, just different layers, their
Speaker 2: own world in that one ICU room. And like that
Speaker 2: nurse said, Megan full said, there's heightened emotions. It's an
Speaker 2: emotionally charged environment because of what it is that they're doing.
Speaker 1: This is not the first case, Like we mentioned, it's
Speaker 1: a rising issue. Last year, a man shot two corrections
Speaker 1: officers in an ambulance baby That did not seem to
Speaker 1: be anything related to healthcare upsetment or anger over people
Speaker 1: who work in the industry. I think that was just
Speaker 1: a gang member who a crime of opportunity. In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, a shooter killed a security guard wounded an
Speaker 1: hospital worker in Portland, Oregon, the hospital's maternity unit. In Atlanta,
Speaker 1: a guy opened fire in an er waiting because he
Speaker 1: was pissed off he had to wait so long, killing
Speaker 1: one woman, wounding four more. Twenty twenty two, a shooter
Speaker 1: killed a surgeon and three other people in Tulsa because
Speaker 1: he blamed the doctor for his continuing pain after an operation.
Speaker 1: It's just like you said, it's heightened emotions anytime it's
Speaker 1: involving a hospital or any sort of treatment. But you
Speaker 1: just started shooting people about it.
Speaker 2: Well, and then obviously the super high profile murder or
Speaker 2: the United CEO or United Healthcare CEO because it's not
Speaker 2: hospital related, but it's obviously healthcare related.
Speaker 3: Right all right, up next this.
Speaker 2: We've said it many many times that vaping is bad,
Speaker 2: and I don't know why we have to continue to
Speaker 2: say this, But now they're suggesting that it's more dangerous
Speaker 2: than smoking because this new study says it raises the
Speaker 2: risk of three different deadly diseases.
Speaker 3: Gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's funny how things went, things changed so much to
Speaker 1: where and I've talked about it for when I quit smoking,
Speaker 1: how it was just so like you were an outcast
Speaker 1: and you would go into like an alley to hide
Speaker 1: smoking your cigarette, and you try to be as low
Speaker 1: profile as possible, you know, just hiding and not wanting
Speaker 1: to make it look like you were creating a big
Speaker 1: to do. And the next incarnation is people with their
Speaker 1: vape pipes, making the biggest deal out of smoking that
Speaker 1: is been made with the clouds of smoke. Like, let
Speaker 1: me see how much attention I can get from the
Speaker 1: cloud of smoke I will exude.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we mentioned the Screen Actors Guild Awards last
Speaker 2: night conclave. The movie took the Marquee Ensemble in Emotion
Speaker 2: Picture Prize. The drama from Focused Features also won Best
Speaker 2: Film at the BAFTA Awards sort of. The British Academy
Speaker 2: Awards is up for eight Academy Award nominations that those
Speaker 2: will be handed.
Speaker 3: Out next weekend.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna go see that movie?
Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know enough about the Catholic papacy to be
Speaker 2: a good judge.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I like I like the Dan Brown stuff because that was,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously more of a thriller style movie.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I like Ray Fines or Ralph for
Speaker 3: however you say, I.
Speaker 1: Think I figured out what the thing is about the
Speaker 1: which doesn't involve the penis? Am I closer?
Speaker 3: No? I mean there is one, right, but there's other
Speaker 3: stuff exactly right. That's what I again.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just it happens. That happens to people.
Speaker 3: Yes, it does.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's that uncommon. It happens, it does.
Speaker 3: Help, It does happen. That doesn't mean it's not uncommon.
Speaker 2: President Trump is holding a news conference right now with
Speaker 2: the Emmanuel Macrone at the White House.
Speaker 3: That you used to see there, they were most beautiful
Speaker 3: in the world, they say, are lying in heaps of
Speaker 3: rubble blasted to smitherines. It's time to end this blood
Speaker 3: bleedding and.
Speaker 1: Restore peace, and I think we're going to do it.
Speaker 3: We've had some great conversations.
Speaker 2: He's talking again with the French president, not just about
Speaker 2: our relationship between the two countries, but also how it
Speaker 2: plays into Europe and European countries coming to the table
Speaker 2: to help with Ukraine coming to some sort of an
Speaker 2: agreement to end that war.
Speaker 1: The hyperbole starts to lose its sparkle after a while,
Speaker 1: doesn't it. When everything's the best, not everything, but when
Speaker 1: many things are the best, or the prettiest, or the
Speaker 1: most or the biggest, then nothing is right.
Speaker 3: When everybody's special, that no one is right.
Speaker 1: A friend to all is a friend of none.
Speaker 2: Regular use of e cigarettes, vapes, whatever it could put
Speaker 2: you at risk of dementia, heart disease, and organ failure.
Speaker 1: Aren't you just a little angel at death?
Speaker 2: Vapes are generally considered safer than cigarettes and a useful
Speaker 2: tool for quitting smoking, at least that's the way they
Speaker 2: were first pitched. But surveys have found about eight percent
Speaker 2: of adults never actually smoked.
Speaker 3: They just went straight to the vape thing.
Speaker 2: The other really, the other aspect of this, and I
Speaker 2: know that part of it is a generational thing.
Speaker 1: Like I was just gonna say what age of adults,
Speaker 1: I would assume it's the young the young bracket, like
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty five or whatever, right.
Speaker 2: Because the smoking part of smoking, the cigarette part of
Speaker 2: smoking was they didn't have like I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: men falls, but even a men fall cigarette, you still
Speaker 2: got smoke in there, so you're dealing with that in
Speaker 2: your mouth and lungs.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone that was a smoker that went
Speaker 1: to vape pens or whatever they're called vaping things.
Speaker 3: What do you mean? You don't know any smokers who
Speaker 3: did that.
Speaker 1: Like people who smoked cigarettes that then went to the
Speaker 1: vape machine and all of them that did that, Oh
Speaker 1: do you Yeah? The people that I know that smoked
Speaker 1: cigarettes still smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 2: This well and that point of you know, the eight
Speaker 2: percent or however, many of it say that they never
Speaker 2: smoked a cigarette before I went straight to vape. That's
Speaker 2: because if you're fourteen, you're not gonna want to put
Speaker 2: smoke in your mouth. You want raspberry dazzle or whatever
Speaker 2: they call them.
Speaker 1: Now, just because you smoke raspberry dazzle doesn't mean it's
Speaker 1: everyone's go to.
Speaker 3: I don't smoke it, I make it okay.
Speaker 2: There's new research out of a British university, Manchester Metropolitan University,
Speaker 2: says e cigarettes allow you to inhale nicotine in a
Speaker 2: vapor form, which is of course produced by heating that
Speaker 2: liquid typically containing propylene, glycoal, glycerine, flavorings and other chemicals.
Speaker 2: And they're saying this high nicotine content increases your heart
Speaker 2: rate and your blood pressure, it makes blood vessels constricted,
Speaker 2: and it damages your artery walls. They said that smokers
Speaker 2: also tend to go outside and smoke, and once a
Speaker 2: cigarette is finished, you got to go through the process
Speaker 2: of I mean, it's not a huge speed bump, but
Speaker 2: you got to go through the process of lighting up
Speaker 2: another cigarette to keep going. Whereas part of the fun,
Speaker 2: you're part of the addiction, the lighting and the all
Speaker 2: of it. There was always something about the first drag
Speaker 2: on a cigarette. Not when I would smoke, but I
Speaker 2: mean if someone was smoking that just the smell of
Speaker 2: the match and that first cigarette. After that it got bad.
Speaker 1: But for some reason, I mean, it starts before that.
Speaker 1: It's first the like psychological I'm gonna have a cigarette high.
Speaker 1: You get of already feeling relaxed because you know you're
Speaker 1: about to have a cigarette, and then starts all of that.
Speaker 1: It's very it's it's insane the way it screws with
Speaker 1: your brain. Quitting smoking is like the hardest thing. Man.
Speaker 1: I've never done heroin, so I don't know what it's
Speaker 1: like to quit. But oh my god, what a beast
Speaker 1: quitting smoking was. I mean it took three tries over
Speaker 1: several years. It's impossible.
Speaker 2: How do you figure you you finally did it? I mean,
Speaker 2: is it is just a patience?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I guess yeah. I mean you want to. You know
Speaker 1: it's bad for you, you know it's killing you, but it's
Speaker 1: that powerful. It's just it's insane. I feel I have
Speaker 1: got friends that I was just texting with my cousin
Speaker 1: today and she's like, I need to quit smoking right away.
Speaker 1: I need to do it right away. It's just so hard.
Speaker 1: And my other friends this whole smoke same thing. It's
Speaker 1: like they know they've got to quit. It's just it's
Speaker 1: very difficult.
Speaker 2: One of the tests that was done on this, the
Speaker 2: mediated dilation test, A cuff is put on your arm
Speaker 2: like a blood pressure cuff. How much the artery expands
Speaker 2: as more blood has passed through it. They said smokers
Speaker 2: and vapors achieve a flat reading, which means their artery
Speaker 2: walls were damaged. They can no longer dilate, and almost
Speaker 2: a certain sign of serious cardiovascular problems in the future.
Speaker 2: That both smokers and vapors their blood flow is similarly
Speaker 2: impaired puts them at risk of developing cognitive dysfunction, which
Speaker 2: includes dementia. And that's beyond whatever long term effects come
Speaker 2: from the superheated toxics. The toxins I should say that
Speaker 2: are in there already that they still have no idea
Speaker 2: how it's going to affect you, because they have been
Speaker 2: around long enough for people to have long term studies
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 3: That's fine.
Speaker 1: Fun is it fun.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun. It sounds like a lot.
Speaker 1: Coming up in the next hour, more things that will
Speaker 1: kill you that you enjoy.
Speaker 2: We may even have to do a two segment Terror
Speaker 2: in the Skies. You see how many stories we have
Speaker 2: for Terror in the Skies.
Speaker 1: There's a lot. Man Delta is going through it, aren't they.
Speaker 3: Yes, they are having a rough day.
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