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<v Speaker 1>On on for real this time. Ah, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>CECO pre show for episode four seventy four. I just

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<v Speaker 1>said it, four seventy four.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we sure this time?

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<v Speaker 1>If we're on, we're on.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Big thanks to producer Gary for not turning

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<v Speaker 2>Slash dijio podcast. Whether they like it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. We're here and for the first time since

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<v Speaker 1>we've been in the wonderful damn studio or wherever we

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<v Speaker 1>are today, is a deck by your good friend Ryan.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably to be terrible. Hey, actually, it's probably going

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<v Speaker 2>to be some combo bullshit mill control CDH deck that

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<v Speaker 2>you say isn't But then no, oh, don't worry, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just crabs. Then you go infinite on turn two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, my budget, my budget crab deck that just

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<v Speaker 1>randomly had duel lands that I had lying around the car. No. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a deck that has placeholders in it because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for a couple of cards to arrive in the

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<v Speaker 1>mail from Fusion, and I played it yesterday and I

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<v Speaker 1>was playing and playing and playing against a guy, first

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<v Speaker 1>day ever at the shop, never met him before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>brand new. He's like, man, I'm going to be reading

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cards because I'm sort of new and

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<v Speaker 1>I've only ever played Arena. I've never played Commander, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have a Muldratha deck and I'm like perfect, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably going to be fine deck because that's a

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<v Speaker 1>powerful card. Yeah. So he we were playing, and he

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<v Speaker 1>says to me about halfway through the game, what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was halfway through the game, at about the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five or half an hour mark, there you go, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you would you would expect that, Okay, this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a grindy game. Maybe it's going to take an hour. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>totally normal. He goes, I don't really have any ways

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<v Speaker 1>to win, but I am playing a mind Slaver and

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<v Speaker 1>I do have a combo in here with Mchasty on Hollowed,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh, okay, Well, the thing about those cards,

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<v Speaker 1>in particular are is lots of people play casual at

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<v Speaker 1>our store, so you're gonna find it if you cast

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<v Speaker 1>Mindslaver against a bunch of people here, They're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want to play against you, And I don't say it

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<v Speaker 1>like that, right, Like I'm just kind of telling him

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<v Speaker 1>in the culture of our store. Yeah, And we keep playing.

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<v Speaker 1>We keep playing. He drops a walking ballista and I go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the combo. Is it over? He goes, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going to play this spoor Frog two and I'm like, okay, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm playing a deck that needs to like win

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<v Speaker 1>through attacking.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ask him if he built the deck in

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<v Speaker 2>the car on the way to the store.

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<v Speaker 1>No, But then later on in the game he says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, guys, I wanted to see what more

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<v Speaker 1>of your guys's decks do. So I wasn't playing stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but this game's been going on for quite a while,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna play Glacial Chasm makes it so he

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<v Speaker 1>can't take damage along with his spore Frog that he

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<v Speaker 1>can get back every turn with his his uh Maltrotham. Yes, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I says to the other two guys, one of which

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<v Speaker 1>is also brand new, like never played at the store before,

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<v Speaker 1>whom I doing, and brand new to magic. I'm teaching

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<v Speaker 1>them lots and they're like, oh man, thanks for teaching

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<v Speaker 1>me so much.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other guy's Matt oh, and the other guy's Matto. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I says, Matt, we got to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>that glacial chasm and remember that land destruction spell that

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<v Speaker 1>you already fucking used on me, right, I bug Matto.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots we trashed off each other.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a wild card, that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I say, Matt, oh, he's targeting my shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, if you can't kill that spore frog, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't win, Matt, we cannot win. And then he taps

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<v Speaker 1>his land. He's like, man, check this out. I'm like, Mat,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's not a removal spell for that sport frog,

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<v Speaker 1>you're fricking doing it wrong. Right. So the game went

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<v Speaker 1>on for another hour. Oh man. Eventually Matt was like, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have anything else on my deck. I can

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<v Speaker 1>deal with those. And then the other guy says, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ready to scoop and see what other cards and decks

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys have, and I'm like, I don't know, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>give me one more turn. But we're at the two

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<v Speaker 1>plus hour mark, so you can imagine how long the

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<v Speaker 1>turns take. And not like there wasn't any Sweepers and

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<v Speaker 1>Wrath of Gods. I played three of them in that game, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it goes from me, I'll say, I'll take one

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<v Speaker 1>more turn whatever after I finish this turn, just to

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<v Speaker 1>see this guy takes his eight minute, ten minute turn

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<v Speaker 1>because he's got fifty eight permanents because it's four hour game.

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<v Speaker 1>Muldratha does Mauldratha things, getting back nine different permanent to

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<v Speaker 1>turn because Maldratha, of course, and then he takes freaking

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<v Speaker 1>mindslaver Matto's turn, sacrifices a bunch of his lands to

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<v Speaker 1>his Zuren orbit and yeah, yeah, So then it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>my turn again, and I'm like, well, I can't win,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can do this elfha strike. Both guys killed

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<v Speaker 1>Mattow and the other guy and then I scooped. That

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<v Speaker 1>was my first ever experience with this deck, this deck

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<v Speaker 1>that so did did it? So?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it good? That I don't know if that was

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<v Speaker 2>a good game or not. That sounds like a nightmare. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds like a miserable, miserable slog from hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I tell the game story too?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Is it the one where you were laughing and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Brando, stop having so much fun?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was the one that I was like, hey, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>watch this. Oh he comes over to border what took them? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Ky, Ryan? Watch this game stories.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's right at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's like, okay, we're gonna play a game that

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<v Speaker 2>goes quick.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this was the quote. He goes, Hey Ryan, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go for it. Watch this, I'm gonna go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is game ends, and I win and we go

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<v Speaker 1>for beers or I lose. That's the quote.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got a soul film. Yeah, that's the non

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<v Speaker 2>combat damage doubling person glory dominus right with an indestructible

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<v Speaker 2>counter on it. That's important. And I have an to Ralph,

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<v Speaker 2>Lord of whatever. He's the one that makes all the

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<v Speaker 2>excess non combat damage that's dealt to my opponent's creatures

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<v Speaker 2>get redirected to their faces.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, non combat damage trample enabler, that's important. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine if you didn't know what magic speak.

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<v Speaker 2>ESTs, Oh, you'd be in big trouble. So I takes

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<v Speaker 2>the last cards in my hands. That's one's cards. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a starve ex So I points at Ben's land and

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<v Speaker 2>I go, I'm gonna kill this land. Why are you

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<v Speaker 2>killing my land?

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<v Speaker 1>Dude?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, just let me finish reading the card, Ben,

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<v Speaker 2>then all of your creatures are gonna take forty and

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<v Speaker 2>then all of you guys are gonna take eighty four

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<v Speaker 2>times and they're all like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, let's go for beer.

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<v Speaker 2>They shove the ship and the way they want to

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<v Speaker 2>do it's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's like turn five. It was so perfect, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I happened, but it was. It was right before. It

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<v Speaker 1>was right before the end of the day when I

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<v Speaker 1>ask you for the Cyberman token because I had a

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<v Speaker 1>cyber ship out. And that's a hint for the deck.

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<v Speaker 2>That we're what kind of deck are we talking?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the commander is going to be the is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the hint?

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<v Speaker 2>When what is this I've never seen that picture before.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the reprinted art. Oh there's a hint. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a hint. There's a hint. If you can guess who

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<v Speaker 1>this is it, I guess we can let the cat

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<v Speaker 1>out of the bag a little bit. Some people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to know that we're talking about my vehicle's deck. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got the cyber ship in it, the six to

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<v Speaker 1>sixth eight eight flyer six six fire. When it hits you, you

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<v Speaker 1>get two cybermen. Oh yeah, it's over here, over here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not it. It's there.

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<v Speaker 2>See it's here.

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<v Speaker 1>Look cyber starts with a c out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an eight eight for.

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<v Speaker 1>Six eight eight for six crew four when it when

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<v Speaker 1>it deals combat damage to a player, I get two cybermen's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty good. And I cast a wrathagod to stop

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<v Speaker 1>Alex from like demoning me to death. Yep, because he

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<v Speaker 1>had he had his demon. When an etb's draw x

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<v Speaker 1>lose x or x as a number of demons, and

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<v Speaker 1>the demon pandemoniums when it comes into play deals damage

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<v Speaker 1>equal to do its power to any target. But then

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<v Speaker 1>he had a roaming throne on demon and a pan harmonicon. Jesus. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was drawing six, losing six, and doing generally

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen every time he played a demon. And I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at like freaking nineteen life. I better wrathagon. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wrath a god. And it turns out the sweepers

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<v Speaker 1>in my vehicle deck are among the best cards in

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<v Speaker 1>the deck because I can go sweeper than play a

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<v Speaker 1>creature than crew, and then use my first crude vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>to crew the next one, use it to crew the

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<v Speaker 1>next one, which is like a cybership, and it's an

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight and I hitch you for eight after I

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<v Speaker 1>wrath to God. You could play better wraths though, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do have a couple better wraths in here.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would like your advice and people in the

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<v Speaker 1>nation's advice for what what would be better than than

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<v Speaker 1>Wrath of God? And we'll talk about the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm playing in the deck tech.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking lots at this and I'm looking at it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of similar in how I would play my

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<v Speaker 2>control in how I do it with Bellow.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon I have fairly and you know what, Bellow I

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<v Speaker 1>saw an E Dah track. Have you ever heard of

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<v Speaker 1>that site?

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<v Speaker 2>Once or twice?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I saw. Bello is a popular vehicle commander.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, espely the fact that he makes all the vehicles smaller.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, some of them get bigger, like like smugglers copter

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<v Speaker 1>gets bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>And smugglers cop doesn't cost four. Oh yeah, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to cost four.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like some of them, some of them are

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<v Speaker 2>air quotes better. But like you just this top one

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<v Speaker 2>here that's an eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Four yeah for five, Now it's a four to four

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<v Speaker 1>for five or a five to five for four. Yeah, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this one's a four to four for four. But they

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<v Speaker 1>but they auto they auto crew right with bellow.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can't crew them to make them bigger because

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<v Speaker 2>their four fours, right, So it's oh, yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure why he's a popular vehicle commander because.

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<v Speaker 1>Because auto crew auto crew is so powerful too. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and I guess judges, let us know in

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<v Speaker 1>the comments, that's a layering question, you know. Everybody's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably layers. I don't know how it works. But

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<v Speaker 1>when something sets, like when something's power and toughness setting,

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<v Speaker 1>when it sets it at four four like below does,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a layering thing, right, because you can set something

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<v Speaker 1>at four to four like below does, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>could try and crew it. But something's already set it

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<v Speaker 1>at four four, so if it's an eighty six, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't actually change. Weird man, Yeah, I guess, let us know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us know. If you're a judge, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>all the judges are going to jump in on discord

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<v Speaker 1>and just fucking pound idiots. Why do you even have

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast? Shut out your dumbasses paying to be in

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<v Speaker 1>this discord anyway? Anyways, who's the commander? What else you

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<v Speaker 1>got for hints? It does have a reprinted art with

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<v Speaker 1>a different name or different.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is better. We have to have to

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<v Speaker 2>describe her a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit in her new art. Oh, it's a girl in

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<v Speaker 1>her new art. She has a face. In her old art,

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<v Speaker 1>she has no face or body half a body.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd probably do it, honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>And quite frankly, this color combination, or any color combination

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<v Speaker 2>of this ilk should not exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you you you're gonna die on that hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, yep, absolutely, I will absolutely die on that hill,

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<v Speaker 2>especially now that the color pie has kind of swelled

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<v Speaker 2>and all of the colors have kind of spread out

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<v Speaker 2>to color soup kind of do it's color soup now

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<v Speaker 2>color stew color stew, and they, you know, they can

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<v Speaker 2>kind of do all the stuff. It just makes decks

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<v Speaker 2>like this kind of irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 1>They can kind of stew all the stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Shut up, listen, we got a show to do, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get to it tomorrow, I guess, and everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna love it. We're gonna have a great times it.

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<v Speaker 1>Four What did I say? Four seventy four or seventy

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<v Speaker 1>four hit our theme song Bye Bye,