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<v Speaker 1>In the first segment that me and Ben drove from

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's time for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Juicy news, Hot Gods Company, stay on top in the chove.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they announced the nominees about a month ago. We talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it, put a couple of seven segments on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably I love this Every year, though, Vulture talks to

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<v Speaker 2>two or three anonymous voters and they basically tell you

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<v Speaker 2>who they voted for. They've already put their ballot in. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know when they announced why or why not?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know when they announced it. I know the

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<v Speaker 2>induction that will be like in October and then it'll

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<v Speaker 2>air on Network TV on you're gonna stream it on

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<v Speaker 2>Disney you can, okay, and it'll be on Network TV

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<v Speaker 2>on like New Year's Eve or something. So Voter one

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<v Speaker 2>for Bad Company. Here will you go with alphabetic quarder? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Bad Company? Are they a major rock act?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I like them more than I want to admit, though,

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<v Speaker 2>because I like Paul Rodgers. He's got a great voice.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel like making love.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe a meathead anthem, but it's catchy. I won't vote

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<v Speaker 1>for them, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Voter two, it's a quintessential rock super group, Paul Rodgers

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<v Speaker 2>and Simon Kirk. So you got links to Free Matt

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<v Speaker 2>the Hoopel and King Crimson. They have a good chance

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<v Speaker 2>of getting in without my vote. It's two no's.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, and I told you all this when we talket.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad Company is not a Hall of Rock and Roll

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame group. To me, they're just not.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the Paul Rodgers argument is really the only

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<v Speaker 4>one that makes sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I think some people think all right Now

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<v Speaker 1>is a Bad Company song.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a free song.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And like honestly, like you, did you ever listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the firm?

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<v Speaker 4>No, but I think I have one album just because.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it's Jimmy Page Yes, with Paul Rodgers on

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<v Speaker 1>lead vocals.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The big radio hit was right Now Active Black Crows. No,

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible to love an act and think they don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be in the rock hall. Thank you, Voter two.

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<v Speaker 1>I find them to be fantastic. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they're rock hallworthy. Crows No. Agreed with the these people. These

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<v Speaker 1>people know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Mariah Kerrie butter one. I buy the argument that she

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<v Speaker 2>is influential. She's also a songwriter. I just don't love

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<v Speaker 2>the material in a world where everybody from Radiohead to

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<v Speaker 2>Janet Jackson didn't get in on their first ballot, why

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<v Speaker 2>was it such an outrage that she didn't either? Because

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<v Speaker 2>last time she didn't get in. So they're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>saying without saying, yeah, sure, but she can wait. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like the Baseball Hall of Fame the way they treat that.

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<v Speaker 2>Butter two said, I'm a huge fan. People forget how

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<v Speaker 2>massive she was in the nineties and early odds. She's

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<v Speaker 2>in the Songwriters Hall of Fame. She mixed pop, hip hop, soul,

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<v Speaker 2>in R and B. She's excelled at it all. She

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<v Speaker 2>should be in. To me, I don't like her.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't see. I'm just trying to think every band

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<v Speaker 4>you name, if they should be in the Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 4>how many hits do they need to have at least?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, she's one who's got number one hit

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighties, nineties, two thousands, and twenty tens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's got monster hits.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, let's beyond me. I can't stand her as a person.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't. Seems like a huge bitch, and so that's

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<v Speaker 4>why I just I'm out.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems when you say huge, do you mean like metaphorically

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<v Speaker 1>that the bitchy factor. Yeah, okay, seems like YEP could

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<v Speaker 1>be a nice goal. Chubby Checker voter one said this

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<v Speaker 1>one bugs me. His career is overshadowed by one hit.

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<v Speaker 1>The only reason Chubby.

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<v Speaker 2>Recorded the Twist, which was an original song by Hank

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<v Speaker 2>Ballard and the Midnighters. I didn't know that was a

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<v Speaker 2>Hank Ballard song is because Dick Clark told him to Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>this song is greater than the man. Butter two said,

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<v Speaker 2>I was befuddled. I'm not sure why he was nominated.

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<v Speaker 4>Actor Kat told us that he just had like one

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<v Speaker 4>hit that he kept trying to redo over it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was incredible, Joe cocker in. Butter one says,

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<v Speaker 2>You're so beautiful up where we belong. Aren't priority songs

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<v Speaker 2>in the history of rock and roll. You're basically voting

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<v Speaker 2>for him as a song stylist. It's comparable to Chevy

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<v Speaker 2>Checker and that the song slightly overshadowed the career, so

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<v Speaker 2>he's not voting. Butter two says he sits in the

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<v Speaker 2>Linda Ronstat type category. What his impact is I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's fair, that's fair to say he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have that big of an impact. I love his voice too.

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<v Speaker 1>I love his voice.

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<v Speaker 4>I just remember him from the Wonder Years theme song.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, but does that get you in just having

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<v Speaker 1>a good voice? Yeah yeah, maybe not Billy Idol. Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Idol should be into me. Butter one, he's pop, he's punk,

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<v Speaker 1>he's new wave. He even qualified as hair metal. If

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<v Speaker 1>anything gets me to vote for Billy, it's a shape

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<v Speaker 1>shifter nature. Butter two says, what do you think of

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<v Speaker 1>eighty Silo Ax? He was huge, but this year there

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<v Speaker 1>were other people I felt needed my vote more.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they have a limited number of votes? Do you wonder?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Joy Division Slash New Order. You guys know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in on them, but I get it. I hate that

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<v Speaker 1>they're combined, though, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Voter one says, how many, however many times they appear,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll check the box. The combination of the two bands

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<v Speaker 2>is sensible, it's not cheating. Voter two said it's funny

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<v Speaker 2>that the Rock Hall and System lumping them together because

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<v Speaker 2>they're so different in terms of their sound. They are,

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<v Speaker 2>but when you're just looking at influence, they both continue

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<v Speaker 2>to reverberate. Man, do you guys ever watch this dude.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is jj Blair on Instagram, where he pulls

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<v Speaker 1>up all the tracks just bounces around songs.

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<v Speaker 2>I stumbled upon last night.

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<v Speaker 1>He was doing Joy Divisions Level tear Us Apart, and

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<v Speaker 1>there is so much stuff going on in that song

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't hear, like intricate guitar parts, like wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And heavy on that song. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The main thing about them too, is that Peter Hook

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<v Speaker 1>plays bass as a melodic instrument, you know, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it just puts me in a different category.

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<v Speaker 2>Cindy Lauper, I mean, it'd.

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<v Speaker 1>Be hypocritical for me to say Joe Cocker and Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Idol should be and then say that Cindy Lauper shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>She was huge in the Dadies voter one. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the world of her. I voted for a last time

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll do it again. Cindy is a Titanic vocalist.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a songwriter. Yes, the career.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets thin after the first two hours albums, Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>what she achieved on those albums is greatness. And the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that she's won award Shive of an Egott tells

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<v Speaker 2>you the quality of her talent.

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<v Speaker 1>She's incredible. Her voice is incredible. I can't even begin

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<v Speaker 1>to explain to you guys, was before you were born.

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<v Speaker 1>She was on MTV every thirty minutes. Man, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that first girls just want to have fun thing. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, it was everywhere. Voter two Cindy was number

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<v Speaker 1>one for me on this ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was upset a few years ago and she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get in. Everyone associates her with the eighties in

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<v Speaker 2>her first record, but she's so much more than that,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm kind of like, is she more than that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know that what she did to get

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<v Speaker 1>a Tony I don't either.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, manah, I'm unfamiliar.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, No.

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<v Speaker 2>Voter one says there's a snowballs chance in hell. Manah,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get in unless we have enough voters who understand

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<v Speaker 2>Latin rock. Or two said, I'm not very familiar with them,

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<v Speaker 2>but when we talk about popular music sometimes we get

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<v Speaker 2>stuck in certain countries. I applied the Rock and Roll

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame for saying, no, this is a rock

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<v Speaker 2>band who is in around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I would ask my homie Adrian Case out of the

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<v Speaker 1>Black Pumas, do you think they should be in whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>engineer Ivan. I mean, they played like the American Airline

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<v Speaker 2>Center when they're in town, you know, like they're big oasis.

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<v Speaker 2>Voter one. They are the turds in the punch bowl

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<v Speaker 2>of rock and roll. I won't vote for them. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a hard time seeing the influence voter too though.

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<v Speaker 2>They're so influential, almost in spite of themselves. They're massively

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<v Speaker 2>popular in America, and people forget that. I voted them

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<v Speaker 2>because the spectacle of them showing up would be hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Liam said he would show up, really, Noel, Noel.

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<v Speaker 1>Nol Yeah, Christmas, Christmas Gallagher. I think he would say

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite of what Liam said. Legends. I mean, do

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<v Speaker 1>they play stadiums they know, and they're huge and dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to this a couple weeks ago, a live

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<v Speaker 1>record of them from years ago, and it's effing awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good. What what what?

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of music that's like this. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I can't get beyond is like I just know

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<v Speaker 1>how dumb the lead singer is and the lyrics are

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<v Speaker 1>so dumb to me, some of them, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gas pumper guy. I come back with lyrics hold

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<v Speaker 1>them back, but this song is about us, what the forever?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to live as bad as though, all right, wonterfly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to live, dude. I love Lenny Kravitz

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<v Speaker 1>and his lyrics are terrible. I get it outcast But

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<v Speaker 1>on what took so long? No doubt, slam Dump, slam Dump.

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<v Speaker 2>They're an act that hip hop heads and born white

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<v Speaker 2>people liked equally. Voter two absolutely yes, East and West

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<v Speaker 2>Coast hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>We need Southern hip hop influence. They were genre defying

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<v Speaker 1>and they will get in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're also the only hip hop group or a

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<v Speaker 2>rapper or you know they're gonna get in, which makes

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<v Speaker 2>it look like a token type thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, they were that that bombs over bag Dad

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<v Speaker 1>era where they got in uh if one it sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like earth Wind and Fire was.

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<v Speaker 4>Also their album, that double album they released. Because I

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<v Speaker 4>was high school at the time, I love Yes, I

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<v Speaker 4>loved like every song.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen year old nab was like, Jesus, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is incredible. Yeah, can't be beat a fifteen year old

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<v Speaker 4>Right, That's what I'm saying, Like I'm a little white

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<v Speaker 4>girl crandle Yeah, Fish, Oh Fish, let's go Fish.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good voter one. If I were gonna rank this ballot,

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<v Speaker 2>Fish should be dead last, big fat no, all the

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<v Speaker 2>cliches apply. Hater, hater, absolutely a hater. Would you guys

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<v Speaker 2>consider me a pretty big music fan? Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>any Fish songs? I can name zero.

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<v Speaker 4>Because there's so many.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't name a single one. They're not radio band,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not a studio band. They're not voter two. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't appreciate Fish until I saw them live There You

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<v Speaker 2>Go a few years ago. Trey inducted Genesis into the

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<v Speaker 2>rock and roll and Fish played Watcher of the Skies.

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<v Speaker 2>That unlocked something in my head. I realized they're not

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<v Speaker 2>a jam band. They're a prog rock band. Right, which

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<v Speaker 2>is I see that too now today. He also thought

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<v Speaker 2>that he or she thought that other people deserved it more, though,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's a popular vote for them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's popular music, and nobody knows any of their songs

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<v Speaker 1>unless they're just devotees and go to their shows.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I think it's impressive that they've gone as

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<v Speaker 4>long as they have and they they usually don't repeat

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<v Speaker 4>songs at any concerts.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, never.

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<v Speaker 4>It's impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>They could repeat songs and I wouldn't know because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know any of their songs.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll go a minute later, Okay, Soundgarden and voter one

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<v Speaker 2>they were in the Seattle scene long before Nirvana even

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<v Speaker 2>released an album. I'm trying to find room for them

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<v Speaker 2>because they deserve it. Voter two said, Cornell's voice is unreal.

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<v Speaker 2>They were a classic band, so I voted for them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's long overdue their layup.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, the biggest layups on this whole thing are

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<v Speaker 1>Outcast and Sound Garden.

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<v Speaker 2>White Stripes and butter One. I love the White Stripes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll confess I didn't vote for them a few years

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<v Speaker 2>ago because I thought they didn't need my vote because

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<v Speaker 2>it would be a slam dunk. I won't make that

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<v Speaker 2>mistake again. Jack White is a walking history of rock

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<v Speaker 2>and roll. Meg White is an underrated drummer. She's not flashy.

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<v Speaker 2>She was the right drummer for that band. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>if they get in she can overcome her stage fright

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<v Speaker 2>and appear with Jack. Hmmm, that would be awesome. A

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<v Speaker 2>voter two said, I voted for them. They single handedly

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<v Speaker 2>kicked off so much of what was defined as rock

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<v Speaker 2>the Strokes and then onward into all the post punk

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<v Speaker 2>with Franz Ferdinand. Meg's drumming was so unique and the

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<v Speaker 2>White Stripes wouldn't have worked without her. Over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>there's been more of a reassessment of her drumming because

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<v Speaker 2>there was so much misogyny and sexism directed toward her.

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<v Speaker 2>People are finally saying, no, they were equals. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think people are saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're saying that saying that, but I think they are

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<v Speaker 1>saying the whole ringo thing of like the greatest drummer

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<v Speaker 1>but works for this. Yeah, and also the records got

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<v Speaker 1>better when.

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<v Speaker 2>You was very good with that. Don't worry with that.

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<v Speaker 2>What go ahead? Just the song?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, uh coming up, nuts, Let's do a little sport,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we have? Katie? The Cowboys lost out on

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<v Speaker 2>another wide receiver today. God kill me.

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<v Speaker 1>He walked out the door. All right, we'll find out

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<v Speaker 1>more about that.