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Speaker 2: Thank you Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You know,
Speaker 2: they announced the nominees about a month ago. We talked
Speaker 2: about it, put a couple of seven segments on it.
Speaker 2: Probably I love this Every year, though, Vulture talks to
Speaker 2: two or three anonymous voters and they basically tell you
Speaker 2: who they voted for. They've already put their ballot in. Okay,
Speaker 2: and you know when they announced why or why not?
Speaker 2: I don't know when they announced it. I know the
Speaker 2: induction that will be like in October and then it'll
Speaker 2: air on Network TV on you're gonna stream it on
Speaker 2: Disney you can, okay, and it'll be on Network TV
Speaker 2: on like New Year's Eve or something. So Voter one
Speaker 2: for Bad Company. Here will you go with alphabetic quarder? Okay?
Speaker 2: Bad Company? Are they a major rock act?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I like them more than I want to admit, though,
Speaker 2: because I like Paul Rodgers. He's got a great voice.
Speaker 2: You feel like making love.
Speaker 1: Maybe a meathead anthem, but it's catchy. I won't vote
Speaker 1: for them, though.
Speaker 2: Voter two, it's a quintessential rock super group, Paul Rodgers
Speaker 2: and Simon Kirk. So you got links to Free Matt
Speaker 2: the Hoopel and King Crimson. They have a good chance
Speaker 2: of getting in without my vote. It's two no's.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and I told you all this when we talket.
Speaker 1: Bad Company is not a Hall of Rock and Roll
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame group. To me, they're just not.
Speaker 4: I mean, the Paul Rodgers argument is really the only
Speaker 4: one that makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: But like I think some people think all right Now
Speaker 1: is a Bad Company song.
Speaker 2: It's a free song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like honestly, like you, did you ever listen
Speaker 1: to the firm?
Speaker 4: No, but I think I have one album just because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's Jimmy Page Yes, with Paul Rodgers on
Speaker 1: lead vocals.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The big radio hit was right Now Active Black Crows. No,
Speaker 1: It's possible to love an act and think they don't
Speaker 1: need to be in the rock hall. Thank you, Voter two.
Speaker 1: I find them to be fantastic. I just don't think
Speaker 1: they're rock hallworthy. Crows No. Agreed with the these people. These
Speaker 1: people know what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Mariah Kerrie butter one. I buy the argument that she
Speaker 2: is influential. She's also a songwriter. I just don't love
Speaker 2: the material in a world where everybody from Radiohead to
Speaker 2: Janet Jackson didn't get in on their first ballot, why
Speaker 2: was it such an outrage that she didn't either? Because
Speaker 2: last time she didn't get in. So they're kind of
Speaker 2: saying without saying, yeah, sure, but she can wait. It's
Speaker 2: like the Baseball Hall of Fame the way they treat that.
Speaker 2: Butter two said, I'm a huge fan. People forget how
Speaker 2: massive she was in the nineties and early odds. She's
Speaker 2: in the Songwriters Hall of Fame. She mixed pop, hip hop, soul,
Speaker 2: in R and B. She's excelled at it all. She
Speaker 2: should be in. To me, I don't like her.
Speaker 4: I don't see. I'm just trying to think every band
Speaker 4: you name, if they should be in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 4: how many hits do they need to have at least?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, she's one who's got number one hit
Speaker 1: in the eighties, nineties, two thousands, and twenty tens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got monster hits.
Speaker 4: Like, let's beyond me. I can't stand her as a person.
Speaker 4: I can't. Seems like a huge bitch, and so that's
Speaker 4: why I just I'm out.
Speaker 1: Seems when you say huge, do you mean like metaphorically
Speaker 1: that the bitchy factor. Yeah, okay, seems like YEP could
Speaker 1: be a nice goal. Chubby Checker voter one said this
Speaker 1: one bugs me. His career is overshadowed by one hit.
Speaker 1: The only reason Chubby.
Speaker 2: Recorded the Twist, which was an original song by Hank
Speaker 2: Ballard and the Midnighters. I didn't know that was a
Speaker 2: Hank Ballard song is because Dick Clark told him to Wow,
Speaker 2: this song is greater than the man. Butter two said,
Speaker 2: I was befuddled. I'm not sure why he was nominated.
Speaker 4: Actor Kat told us that he just had like one
Speaker 4: hit that he kept trying to redo over it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was incredible, Joe cocker in. Butter one says,
Speaker 2: You're so beautiful up where we belong. Aren't priority songs
Speaker 2: in the history of rock and roll. You're basically voting
Speaker 2: for him as a song stylist. It's comparable to Chevy
Speaker 2: Checker and that the song slightly overshadowed the career, so
Speaker 2: he's not voting. Butter two says he sits in the
Speaker 2: Linda Ronstat type category. What his impact is I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's fair, that's fair to say he doesn't
Speaker 1: have that big of an impact. I love his voice too.
Speaker 1: I love his voice.
Speaker 4: I just remember him from the Wonder Years theme song.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but does that get you in just having
Speaker 1: a good voice? Yeah yeah, maybe not Billy Idol. Billy
Speaker 1: Idol should be into me. Butter one, he's pop, he's punk,
Speaker 1: he's new wave. He even qualified as hair metal. If
Speaker 1: anything gets me to vote for Billy, it's a shape
Speaker 1: shifter nature. Butter two says, what do you think of
Speaker 1: eighty Silo Ax? He was huge, but this year there
Speaker 1: were other people I felt needed my vote more.
Speaker 2: Do they have a limited number of votes? Do you wonder?
Speaker 4: I don't know?
Speaker 1: Okay, Joy Division Slash New Order. You guys know I'm
Speaker 1: in on them, but I get it. I hate that
Speaker 1: they're combined, though, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Voter one says, how many, however many times they appear,
Speaker 2: I'll check the box. The combination of the two bands
Speaker 2: is sensible, it's not cheating. Voter two said it's funny
Speaker 2: that the Rock Hall and System lumping them together because
Speaker 2: they're so different in terms of their sound. They are,
Speaker 2: but when you're just looking at influence, they both continue
Speaker 2: to reverberate. Man, do you guys ever watch this dude.
Speaker 1: His name is jj Blair on Instagram, where he pulls
Speaker 1: up all the tracks just bounces around songs.
Speaker 2: I stumbled upon last night.
Speaker 1: He was doing Joy Divisions Level tear Us Apart, and
Speaker 1: there is so much stuff going on in that song
Speaker 1: that I didn't hear, like intricate guitar parts, like wait,
Speaker 1: what really interesting.
Speaker 2: And heavy on that song. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The main thing about them too, is that Peter Hook
Speaker 1: plays bass as a melodic instrument, you know, and so
Speaker 1: it's just it just puts me in a different category.
Speaker 2: Cindy Lauper, I mean, it'd.
Speaker 1: Be hypocritical for me to say Joe Cocker and Billy
Speaker 1: Idol should be and then say that Cindy Lauper shouldn't.
Speaker 1: She was huge in the Dadies voter one. I think
Speaker 1: the world of her. I voted for a last time
Speaker 1: and I'll do it again. Cindy is a Titanic vocalist.
Speaker 1: She's a songwriter. Yes, the career.
Speaker 2: Gets thin after the first two hours albums, Yeah, but
Speaker 2: what she achieved on those albums is greatness. And the
Speaker 2: fact that she's won award Shive of an Egott tells
Speaker 2: you the quality of her talent.
Speaker 1: She's incredible. Her voice is incredible. I can't even begin
Speaker 1: to explain to you guys, was before you were born.
Speaker 1: She was on MTV every thirty minutes. Man, I mean
Speaker 1: that first girls just want to have fun thing. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it was everywhere. Voter two Cindy was number
Speaker 1: one for me on this ballot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was upset a few years ago and she
Speaker 2: didn't get in. Everyone associates her with the eighties in
Speaker 2: her first record, but she's so much more than that,
Speaker 2: which I'm kind of like, is she more than that?
Speaker 1: I don't even know that what she did to get
Speaker 1: a Tony I don't either.
Speaker 2: Uh, manah, I'm unfamiliar.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, No.
Speaker 2: Voter one says there's a snowballs chance in hell. Manah,
Speaker 2: we'll get in unless we have enough voters who understand
Speaker 2: Latin rock. Or two said, I'm not very familiar with them,
Speaker 2: but when we talk about popular music sometimes we get
Speaker 2: stuck in certain countries. I applied the Rock and Roll
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame for saying, no, this is a rock
Speaker 2: band who is in around the world.
Speaker 1: I would ask my homie Adrian Case out of the
Speaker 1: Black Pumas, do you think they should be in whatever?
Speaker 2: He says I would agree with. I would ask our
Speaker 2: engineer Ivan. I mean, they played like the American Airline
Speaker 2: Center when they're in town, you know, like they're big oasis.
Speaker 2: Voter one. They are the turds in the punch bowl
Speaker 2: of rock and roll. I won't vote for them. I
Speaker 2: have a hard time seeing the influence voter too though.
Speaker 2: They're so influential, almost in spite of themselves. They're massively
Speaker 2: popular in America, and people forget that. I voted them
Speaker 2: because the spectacle of them showing up would be hilarious.
Speaker 2: Liam said he would show up, really, Noel, Noel.
Speaker 1: Nol Yeah, Christmas, Christmas Gallagher. I think he would say
Speaker 1: the opposite of what Liam said. Legends. I mean, do
Speaker 1: they play stadiums they know, and they're huge and dude,
Speaker 1: I listened to this a couple weeks ago, a live
Speaker 1: record of them from years ago, and it's effing awesome.
Speaker 2: It's so good. What what what?
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of music that's like this. But
Speaker 1: what I can't get beyond is like I just know
Speaker 1: how dumb the lead singer is and the lyrics are
Speaker 1: so dumb to me, some of them, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: it's very like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: It's gas pumper guy. I come back with lyrics hold
Speaker 1: them back, but this song is about us, what the forever?
Speaker 1: I want to live as bad as though, all right, wonterfly,
Speaker 1: I don't want to live, dude. I love Lenny Kravitz
Speaker 1: and his lyrics are terrible. I get it outcast But
Speaker 1: on what took so long? No doubt, slam Dump, slam Dump.
Speaker 2: They're an act that hip hop heads and born white
Speaker 2: people liked equally. Voter two absolutely yes, East and West
Speaker 2: Coast hip hop.
Speaker 1: We need Southern hip hop influence. They were genre defying
Speaker 1: and they will get in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're also the only hip hop group or a
Speaker 2: rapper or you know they're gonna get in, which makes
Speaker 2: it look like a token type thing.
Speaker 1: But no, they were that that bombs over bag Dad
Speaker 1: era where they got in uh if one it sounded
Speaker 1: like earth Wind and Fire was.
Speaker 4: Also their album, that double album they released. Because I
Speaker 4: was high school at the time, I love Yes, I
Speaker 4: loved like every song.
Speaker 2: Yeah all of that.
Speaker 1: Fifteen year old nab was like, Jesus, this is this
Speaker 1: is incredible. Yeah, can't be beat a fifteen year old
Speaker 1: dude from only you know.
Speaker 4: Right, That's what I'm saying, Like I'm a little white
Speaker 4: girl crandle Yeah, Fish, Oh Fish, let's go Fish.
Speaker 2: I'm good voter one. If I were gonna rank this ballot,
Speaker 2: Fish should be dead last, big fat no, all the
Speaker 2: cliches apply. Hater, hater, absolutely a hater. Would you guys
Speaker 2: consider me a pretty big music fan? Do you have
Speaker 2: any Fish songs? I can name zero.
Speaker 4: Because there's so many.
Speaker 2: I can't name a single one. They're not radio band,
Speaker 2: they're not a studio band. They're not voter two. I
Speaker 2: didn't appreciate Fish until I saw them live There You
Speaker 2: Go a few years ago. Trey inducted Genesis into the
Speaker 2: rock and roll and Fish played Watcher of the Skies.
Speaker 2: That unlocked something in my head. I realized they're not
Speaker 2: a jam band. They're a prog rock band. Right, which
Speaker 2: is I see that too now today. He also thought
Speaker 2: that he or she thought that other people deserved it more, though,
Speaker 2: so it's a popular vote for them.
Speaker 1: It's popular music, and nobody knows any of their songs
Speaker 1: unless they're just devotees and go to their shows.
Speaker 4: I just I think it's impressive that they've gone as
Speaker 4: long as they have and they they usually don't repeat
Speaker 4: songs at any concerts.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, never.
Speaker 4: It's impressive.
Speaker 1: They could repeat songs and I wouldn't know because I
Speaker 1: don't know any of their songs.
Speaker 2: We'll go a minute later, Okay, Soundgarden and voter one
Speaker 2: they were in the Seattle scene long before Nirvana even
Speaker 2: released an album. I'm trying to find room for them
Speaker 2: because they deserve it. Voter two said, Cornell's voice is unreal.
Speaker 2: They were a classic band, so I voted for them.
Speaker 2: It's long overdue their layup.
Speaker 1: For me, the biggest layups on this whole thing are
Speaker 1: Outcast and Sound Garden.
Speaker 2: White Stripes and butter One. I love the White Stripes.
Speaker 2: I'll confess I didn't vote for them a few years
Speaker 2: ago because I thought they didn't need my vote because
Speaker 2: it would be a slam dunk. I won't make that
Speaker 2: mistake again. Jack White is a walking history of rock
Speaker 2: and roll. Meg White is an underrated drummer. She's not flashy.
Speaker 2: She was the right drummer for that band. I hope
Speaker 2: if they get in she can overcome her stage fright
Speaker 2: and appear with Jack. Hmmm, that would be awesome. A
Speaker 2: voter two said, I voted for them. They single handedly
Speaker 2: kicked off so much of what was defined as rock
Speaker 2: the Strokes and then onward into all the post punk
Speaker 2: with Franz Ferdinand. Meg's drumming was so unique and the
Speaker 2: White Stripes wouldn't have worked without her. Over the years,
Speaker 2: there's been more of a reassessment of her drumming because
Speaker 2: there was so much misogyny and sexism directed toward her.
Speaker 2: People are finally saying, no, they were equals. I don't
Speaker 2: think people are saying that.
Speaker 1: They're saying that saying that, but I think they are
Speaker 1: saying the whole ringo thing of like the greatest drummer
Speaker 1: but works for this. Yeah, and also the records got
Speaker 1: better when.
Speaker 2: You was very good with that. Don't worry with that.
Speaker 2: What go ahead? Just the song?
Speaker 1: Okay, uh coming up, nuts, Let's do a little sport,
Speaker 1: shall we.
Speaker 2: What do we have? Katie? The Cowboys lost out on
Speaker 2: another wide receiver today. God kill me.
Speaker 1: He walked out the door. All right, we'll find out
Speaker 1: more about that.