WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.480 Football Fridays do every Friday right before Utah home games. 2 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:05.440 The Smith's we're at today is on ninth and ninth. 3 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:08.839 You can't miss us. We are right outside of the store. 4 00:00:08.919 --> 00:00:10.599 As soon as you pull into the parking lot, we're 5 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:13.640 there giving away a Modello cooler. Now there are no 6 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:16.000 modelas inside, so let's not get weird. But it is 7 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:18.359 a very nice cooler. And we got a couple more 8 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:21.600 pairs of tickets for the Smith's football tailgate prior to 9 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:25.600 Utah Arizona Tomorrow night here in Salt Lake, eight fifteen 10 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:28.920 kick time, Aki Weather's seventy two degrees in Clare. It's 11 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:30.559 going to be a beautiful night. Our next guest, one 12 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:33.920 of our favorites, Top college Football with Buddy Max brown 13 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.159 Back on the show Max Happy Friday. How you doing. 14 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:40.520 Buddy Fridays, Spence, I'd be looking forward to these segments. 15 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:43.920 It's becoming a little reoccurring cadence to start the college 16 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:45.399 football weekend for sure. 17 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:47.840 And always appreciate your time and you stop them by. 18 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:49.920 And I believe we spoke to you a couple of 19 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:53.960 weeks ago and I asked you this question. I think 20 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:56.399 I asked ten or fifteen college football guests the same, 21 00:00:57.079 --> 00:01:00.000 Is there any way Utah State can sneak their way 22 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:04.239 into the PAC twelve And everyone said no, Well things change, Max, 23 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:07.040 and we'll start with the news and the kind of 24 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:09.200 the chaos between the PAC twelve and the Mountain West 25 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:12.680 Conference and locally happy for Utah State if this is 26 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:15.280 what they want to do to join the PAC twelve. 27 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:17.000 So give me your thoughts on the latest before we 28 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:18.439 get to some actual games coming up. 29 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:22.319 Yeah, I was surprised that Utah State snuck the weare 30 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:25.159 in there, and my first reaction was, you know why 31 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:27.799 why only two three weeks later and not part of 32 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:29.319 that initial initial batch. 33 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:31.920 And candidly, I haven't read all the nuances there, but 34 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:33.640 I was surprised. 35 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:37.760 I thought Memphis's athletic director and his comments I believe 36 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:40.239 it was yesterday, were pretty candid and basically he was 37 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:42.439 like in so many words as basically it was a 38 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:44.359 low ball offer from the PAC twelve, which I don't 39 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:46.840 know what that means, but to me, if I was 40 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:49.040 the PAC twelve, those are the types of schools that 41 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:53.000 I'd be going after. The Memphis, the two Lane, the 42 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:55.799 even an app State or US. Up to some degree, 43 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:58.640 it just feels like those are, you know, the best 44 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:01.319 of the available school wolves about going into maybe the 45 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:03.359 armed forces and whatnot. 46 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:05.079 But happy for Utah State. 47 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:08.439 I think the prospects of the PAC twelve, just getting 48 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:10.719 one more team to get to that minimum barrier of 49 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:12.360 eight looks a lot more promising. 50 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:14.960 And I think when you zoom out. 51 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:17.520 And see, you know, I called Oregon State's game Week one, 52 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:20.879 and there was you know a lot of people that 53 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:23.319 were if you were a betting man back then that 54 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:25.879 would say, hey, Oregon State and Washington State would relegate 55 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:27.840 down to the Mountain West. So the fact that that 56 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.120 hasn't happened, I think is a huge win for Oregon 57 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:33.400 State and Washington State. And think those programs have a 58 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:35.639 lot to be excited about just giving the hand that 59 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.520 they were dealt the past eighteen months or so. 60 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:41.080 So last week mac hw tagos to still Water and 61 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:44.159 wins in a place where not many people do. My gun, 62 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:46.439 he doesn't lose there, and that's a tough place to play. 63 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:49.960 We were all once again doing the guessing game prior 64 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:52.960 to kick, who's the quarterback? Who's the quarterback? Who's the quarterback? 65 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:56.199 They run out and it's Isaac and he was fine, 66 00:02:56.280 --> 00:02:59.400 helped held himself together. They of course, relied on the 67 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:01.919 ethos of what coach Wit wants them to do, which 68 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:04.360 is run the football and played great, great defense, which 69 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:06.520 they did. It got a little loose late, but it 70 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:09.560 was never really in danger. We'll get to some previews, 71 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:11.479 but before we do, what were your main takeaways if 72 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:13.840 Utah's went in Stillwater over Okay State. 73 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:17.520 Yeah, my main takeaway it was like, here we go 74 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:20.639 again in terms of just from a national perspective, because 75 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:23.240 obviously I'm not on the beat like you are with Utah, 76 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:26.439 but here we go again in terms of Utah's top 77 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:28.759 ten team in the country four and oh they went 78 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:32.479 on the back of just a stout run defense. Quarterback 79 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:36.120 play wasn't as it wasn't wasn't that pretty necessarily, but 80 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:38.280 gets the job done. And I know, you know, the 81 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:40.960 standard for Utah fans has been cam rise in the 82 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:41.919 past couple of years. 83 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:42.960 But you know, I. 84 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.520 Always think back to when I was in college, when 85 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:49.319 you're talking thirteen to sixteen, and you know, Utah had 86 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:52.280 some struggles there a little bit at times finding quarterback play. 87 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:55.400 I remember, you know, the days of you know, Travis Wilson. 88 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:57.240 Coming along, but even before that or if he got 89 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:00.479 banged up, like it was a grind there ati for 90 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:03.680 Utah offensively, and here we go again in terms of 91 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:06.439 on the back of your back, your defense, you shut 92 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:08.520 down arguably one of the best running backs in college 93 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:12.680 football completely in Oklahoma State team that's really good. And 94 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:14.919 it just feels like, I mean, we'll see what happens 95 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:18.360 tomorrow versus Arizona, because I think this is a potential 96 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:21.439 get right game for not get right game, but a 97 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:25.120 response game for Arizona. But it just feels like Utah 98 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:28.160 is waiting the shadows. No one's really talking about him 99 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:30.720 from a national picture. If they can time it up 100 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:33.879 with Cam Risey, maybe getting back at the right time, man, 101 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:36.120 the youth could go on a run, which been on 102 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:38.720 this show many times over the years where that's been 103 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.319 the sentiment for sure. 104 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:44.920 And so let's move over to tomorrow night. And I 105 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:48.519 understand your point about Arizona, you know, hoping to get 106 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:51.800 right after they got smoked. But you know this, Max, 107 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:54.040 Kansas State and Utah they want to do the same 108 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:56.160 thing to you. They want to corner you, they want 109 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:58.240 to bully you, they want to beat you up. And 110 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:01.439 there's a lot to like about Arizona's skilled position players. 111 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:03.879 I mean quarterback wide receiver one combo, one of the 112 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:06.720 best in the country. No one's disputing that, But I 113 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:09.720 didn't see anything against k State that, in my mind, 114 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:13.000 gives me confidence they can handle Utah's big dogs the 115 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:15.879 physicality and if it is Isaac, And by the way, 116 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:19.000 I'm just operating off the assumption that it is until 117 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:20.480 it's not, I don't know what else to do at 118 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:23.879 this point. You know, the line has been funky, Max. 119 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:26.759 It started at eleven five, it moved up to twelve, 120 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:30.720 and now it's down to nine. So last week I 121 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:33.040 talked about this on the show, because I think it 122 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:35.680 was Thursday and night I signed off at six o'clock 123 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:41.199 Mountain time, and Utah was I can't remember the exact number, 124 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:45.040 but what I remember is the line swung towards Oklahoma 125 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.120 State four and a half points over two hours, and 126 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:49.560 so again on the air the next time. Like that 127 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:51.639 means one of two things, Cam's not playing or a 128 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:54.480 big wise guy Shark better put a bunch of cash 129 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:57.480 down to move the line. And it turned out that 130 00:05:57.519 --> 00:05:59.360 Cam didn't play. We have a line here that has 131 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:02.319 moved three and a points, but it's slowly incrementally over 132 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:04.040 the week, So I don't know if it means a 133 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:07.319 camera's not playing, but I'm op with the assumption that 134 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:10.759 it is. Isaac. Therefore my best guest, Max, and you'll 135 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:12.399 be good with this, so I'll kind of see the 136 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:15.560 time of you. Utah is gonna play Arizona the way 137 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:18.000 k State did and the way Utah played Okay State 138 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:21.519 last week, and I don't think physically Arizona's ready for that. 139 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:23.199 That's where I'm at with a match up where what's 140 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:24.040 the Max Brown take. 141 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:27.120 I'm with you on the physicality standpoint. 142 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:30.040 I'm with you on the Utah taking a similar game 143 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:33.319 plan and an identity to Kansas State. To me, the 144 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:36.480 big difference with both those teams is the quarterback play 145 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:39.399 for Kansas State and Utah respectively. Avery Johnson is one 146 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:42.759 of the more you know, ascending quarterbacks in college football. 147 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:44.920 I thought he had a really good game versus Arizona 148 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.720 in terms of making uh picking up plays with his 149 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:50.439 legs and coming up with just enough to keep the 150 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:53.480 sticks moving. Isaac Wilson, I haven't seen that from Utah. 151 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:54.800 It's not been bad. 152 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.199 Per se, but it's been very just kind of middle 153 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.319 of the road, just keep the keep the keep the 154 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:01.680 boat a float kind of thing versus I do think 155 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:03.519 Kansas they had a little bit more in that game. 156 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:04.040 But I'm with you. 157 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:06.639 I think you know Arizona and I said this the 158 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:09.160 last time we spoke of Hey, they're top end talent. 159 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:10.600 They're noteworthy guys. 160 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:12.399 They're guys that you're talking about in the open. Those 161 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:14.879 guys are really good. Those guys can hang with anyone 162 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:17.759 in the conference. When you start tapping into their depth 163 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:20.879 in the second half and the front seven defenders that 164 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:24.480 they have, that's where it gets you know, That's that's 165 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.079 where it gets tough. But I just think with all 166 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:31.480 the proven production that they had coming back this line, 167 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:33.399 at least what I'm looking at is twelve and a half. 168 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:34.680 I might be wrong there. 169 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.319 You know, that's a lot of points, especially for a 170 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:40.040 Utah team. I don't think you're going to necessarily score 171 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:41.920 going away. 172 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:42.839 Type of mentality. 173 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:46.000 I think Utah takes care of business. But from a 174 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:49.560 line standpoint, I think I like Arizona to cover that one. 175 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:56.079 So you'll you'll take Arizona with the points against Utah. Yep, Okay, 176 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:58.160 all right, all right? Yeah, we'll see. It'll be it'll 177 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:00.879 be interesting, you know, because that line has moved. Trying 178 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:02.839 to keep track of it's been a little bit chaotic, 179 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:06.279 all right. So there's a chance Max that we well, 180 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:09.399 we do have two top twenty five teams in our 181 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:12.639 state now I have. It's just kind of the same 182 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:15.199 deal like you talk about Utah. Kyle's built more of 183 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:17.439 a benefit of the doubt program where you just know 184 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:19.879 what you get year and in year out, you just 185 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:21.319 know what you get. It's been that way for a 186 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:24.000 long long time. And Klane's trying to build what Kyle's 187 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:27.720 already built. And I still have questions about BYU that 188 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:30.720 I just don't about Utah, and it's it's not knocking 189 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:32.039 on them, like you have to give him a ton 190 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:34.360 of credit. They go three and zero last year to 191 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:36.320 start things off, They get in a conference and it 192 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:38.919 just didn't go well. Now they still have not won 193 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.240 a big twelve road game. So we'll get to Baylor 194 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:43.720 in a moment. But Case State rolls in a provo 195 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:48.480 last weekend and it was a perfect combination of great 196 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:51.960 fortune for BYU and then to credit BYU them taking 197 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:54.519 advantage of the hand that they had been dealt, so 198 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:57.240 I'm not diminishing the start, but they only had two 199 00:08:57.320 --> 00:09:00.279 hundred and nine yards of offense and Case State really 200 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:03.000 kind of gashed him on the ground for the most part. 201 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:06.799 But nonetheless, that's a massive win over a top fifteen 202 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:09.519 team in Case State. It's the largest margin of victory 203 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:12.600 for a BYU team when playing a top fifteen team. 204 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:14.519 So I'm not diminishing any of it. I just still 205 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:17.759 have questions. But let's start with BYUK State. What stood 206 00:09:17.799 --> 00:09:19.120 out most to you about that win? 207 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:25.720 Probably the offense, especially given up the offense didn't do 208 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:26.320 much two. 209 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:27.519 Weeks earlier versus SMU. 210 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:30.360 I called the SMU game last week versus TCU, and 211 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:31.440 SMU is a good. 212 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:34.399 A good squad. They're a fully capable offense, and the 213 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:36.679 BYU defense showed up on the road that game. 214 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:41.840 And you mentioned maybe no on the road big big 215 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:43.559 twelve win yet, but that was the on the road 216 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.159 acc win that I thought was impressive SMU a couple 217 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:48.279 of weeks earlier, and to then to do it two 218 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:51.000 weeks later against the top twenty five team in a 219 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:53.440 different fashion, that to me is a sign of a 220 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:56.120 great football team when you can win win in different ways. 221 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.080 I'm with you, though, I think there's a lot more 222 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:00.320 to be uh, you know, there's a lot more to 223 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:03.679 see with this BYU squad. But yeah, I know last 224 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:06.879 week when we're talking betting lines and whatnot, that was 225 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:10.480 my favorite line of the week I picked BYU to cover. 226 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:12.080 I didn't have them win an outright, but they were 227 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:15.159 getting what they were double digit dogs or maybe seven 228 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:18.559 point dogs night game in Provo. Man, I've seen that 229 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:21.240 story before. They took care of business and that the 230 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:24.639 blowing away fashion was a surprise to me. But the 231 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:29.159 fact that BYU was competitive in that game and a tough, 232 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:32.200 tough environment in Provo not a surprise to me at all. 233 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:34.039 But don't sleep on that SMU win too. I think 234 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:35.720 SMU is going to sneak up on some people in 235 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:36.200 the ACC. 236 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:40.080 Yeah, and I'm you know, really coming along to believe 237 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:42.679 that b YU, I'll say today, is a lot better 238 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:46.159 than any of us expected, including myself. Vegas over under 239 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:48.720 four and half. I picked them to win six media 240 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:50.600 picks them to win, you know, thirteenth in the Big 241 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:53.480 twelve media poll and that's clearly, at least as of now, 242 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.200 a miscalculation. But let's move over to Baylor. You know, 243 00:10:57.279 --> 00:10:59.960 Dave Randa, who did some coaching in States, clearly as 244 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:03.600 a guy that has some serious questions to answer if 245 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:05.960 he's going to stay employed before the end of the season. 246 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:09.679 And Baylor was here and their offense and look every 247 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:11.919 time on offense rolls into Salt Lake, I'm like, yeah, 248 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:13.480 the offense didn't look great. And I'm like, well, yeah, 249 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.559 they played against Utah's defense. So Utah's defense did to 250 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:18.399 Baylor what they're gonna do to a lot of teams. 251 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:20.720 But I didn't see a whole lot that I was 252 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:23.480 impressed with BYU. One thing I will tell you, Max 253 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:26.840 is that defense is for real. Jay Hill's second season, 254 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:30.679 Klonie's the head coach. They bring in some transfers, some 255 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.480 of the players who decided to stay, Tyler Bowdie and 256 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:36.559 others clearly put in work. I don't think Baylor's going 257 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:37.919 to be able to move the ball on him. I 258 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:41.759 could be wrong, but it is a brunch in Waco situation. 259 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:44.159 And BYU has lost their last ten day games to 260 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:47.000 f BS opponents, and they have not won a big 261 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:50.559 twelve road game. Baylor's getting three as of now. Here's 262 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:53.039 the way I'll frame the question, what do you need 263 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:56.399 to see from BYU tomorrow against Baylor to indicate that 264 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:58.600 the questions that you have have been answered and we 265 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:00.919 have to say next week when on air this team 266 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:01.440 is for real. 267 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:04.679 It's a good question. 268 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:09.200 Probably more explosion through the passing game or just bigger 269 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:10.039 plays in general. 270 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:12.000 Like here, here's what I know about BYU. I know 271 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:13.600 they're going to be a veteran team. 272 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:15.679 Their defense is going to be stout, especially in the 273 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:16.159 run game. 274 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:16.440 They're not. 275 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:16.679 I don't. 276 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.159 I don't think BYU is going to get out physical 277 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:21.600 completely in a game that I don't worry about. 278 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:23.840 I worry about it because becomes a close game and 279 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:27.759 they're not able to, you know, have the security blanket 280 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:31.080 of staying on schedule and having runs that they can 281 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.360 get to. Can their quarterback, can you win on the 282 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:35.960 right arm of your signal caller? And that to me 283 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:39.000 would be the big moment. And especially you know when 284 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.919 you're playing a team like Baylor. You know they put 285 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:46.159 up thirty one points last week, but even passing yards 286 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:47.600 like they want to be explosive. 287 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:49.360 If this game's close. 288 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:51.159 At all, I think the half Baylor would have to 289 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:53.519 unlock a lot more in the passing game. But I 290 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.320 just think ultimately for BYU to be in that conversation 291 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:59.080 of hey, they can ultimately can tend for a Big 292 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:02.960 twelve championship or even be in that conversation, I gotta 293 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:06.159 see a full notch more production at the quarterback spot 294 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:09.480 because ultimately, you know, to be eligible, that's one thing, 295 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:12.080 but to be the championship classification, you got to have 296 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:14.039 more production of the quarterback spot. That's what I'd be 297 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:14.559 looking for. 298 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:18.320 K State host Okay State. So the two teams at 299 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:20.799 U y U and Utah beat a week ago, we'll 300 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.639 meet in Manhattan. Kansas State a five point five point favorite. 301 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:27.159 As of now, Oklahoma State is given the second most 302 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:30.080 explosive plays in college football. That defense is not good. 303 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.320 And what I've seen from Imax and obviously I'll see 304 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:35.320 to you is everyone stack in the box and Oli 305 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:38.679 Gordon has no space and whatever quarterback Mike Kunda uses 306 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:41.759 cannot help their running back out. I don't know that 307 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:43.720 I'm as high on them, certainly as I was to 308 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.679 start the season. They are on the road to take 309 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:48.399 on k State as a dog. How do you see 310 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:50.240 it playing out in Manhattan, Kansas? 311 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:52.840 I see it being a physical game. 312 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:58.360 Yeah, I mean you talk about two teams that, I mean, 313 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:00.759 we're right in the top of the Big twelve conversation. 314 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:03.399 I guess still are. Both have to respond this. 315 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:06.600 Week to get the trajectory of their program back on track. 316 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:09.159 I just think again, I go back to Avery Johnson, 317 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:12.240 Kansas State's quarterback. I think his ability on third down, 318 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:14.679 especially when you're behind the sticks, for his legs to 319 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:15.440 be a factor. 320 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:16.519 I don't think. 321 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:19.120 Oklahoma outside of the defense and that he can take 322 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:21.840 advantage of. I don't think Oklahoma State has enough at 323 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.279 the quarterback position to come up with enough big plays 324 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:26.759 to put up points and put up yards. I think 325 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:30.240 Kansas State takes care of business. I'm buying the hype 326 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:34.080 of Avery Johnson. I don't think he's a top five 327 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:36.480 quarterback in the country right now, but I do think 328 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:38.840 when you look forward to next year in progressing is 329 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:41.519 a much younger much he's a younger quarterback. I think 330 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:44.120 they have every reason to be excited, but I'm with you. 331 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:47.440 The blueprint on stopping Oli Gordon, Oklahoma State's running back, 332 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:50.840 is very clear. Stop the box force Oklahoma State's quarterback, 333 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:53.559 whether it's Alan Bowman or someone else to beat you 334 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:56.200 on the outside, and even if they do come up 335 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:59.120 with the catch, here there to Shaun stribbling out wide 336 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:02.399 if that happens. Like I think the mentality for a 337 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:04.159 defense is sweet. You can have one of those, but 338 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:05.679 at the end of the day, when you get in 339 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:07.159 the red zone and you have to go back to 340 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:09.600 Ali Gordon, we can stop you. And I think that 341 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:13.600 plays right into Kansas State's hands. I think the Wildcats 342 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:14.320 get it done. 343 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:17.200 So to start the year, you know, we get the 344 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:19.879 Big Twelve schedule and then we start to learn a 345 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:22.759 little bit more about the teams, and it became pretty 346 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:26.399 clear that Utah was a little bit fortunate with the 347 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:29.360 way their schedule laid out. Most metrics have Utah with 348 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:31.960 one of the easier schedules in the Big Twelve. But 349 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:34.120 a lot of people are saying, okay, still Water, that's 350 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:36.240 a really big game, right and then you know, of 351 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:39.799 course the Rabbitie game is always tough. I look at 352 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:42.200 that UCF game, Max, It's the final game of the 353 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:44.519 season for the Utes. It's in Orlando. It's on November 354 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:47.120 the twenty ninth. Utah's love Orlando. There'll be plenty of 355 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:49.519 youth fans there. I can promise you that, and we 356 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:53.279 have an interesting game in Orlando this weekends. Colorado, who 357 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:55.600 pulled off a miracle to take care of their game 358 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:59.639 against Baylor, will be at UCF. UCF to me, I 359 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:03.399 mean obviously a coaching staff with incredible pedigree, but that 360 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:07.039 run game is difficult. I don't think Colorado matches up 361 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:09.759 with them physically, but that's kind of a sneaky game. 362 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:11.720 And I also want your thoughts on what you've seen 363 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:13.799 so far from UCF and if you think they can 364 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:15.320 actually make some noise in the conference. 365 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:18.240 Yeah, it's a fascinating game. I feel like a bunch 366 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:21.440 of this call. We've been talking about styles for teams. 367 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:24.600 In the style of UCF versus Colorado could not be 368 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:27.679 more different. Colorado is very much I've used the line 369 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:30.559 they're an air raid team without an air raid playbook. 370 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:31.679 I think they want to pass. 371 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:34.039 They want to pass every down and they just run 372 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:36.480 when they absolutely have to. It feels like UCF, on 373 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:40.240 the other hand, totally different story. Their quarterback kJ Jefferson. 374 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:43.559 He's huge, He's all of two hundred and fifty pounds plus, 375 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:45.399 it looks like and they ask him to run and 376 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:47.840 it's not a vast passing attack. 377 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:51.679 And you know they're they're they're running a bunch and he. 378 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:53.759 Has like throws on the outside a little bit, but 379 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:57.200 it's all off of the run game. This UCF defensive 380 00:16:57.240 --> 00:17:01.720 line too. When I called the tc UMU game last week, 381 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:05.079 Sonny Dike's TCUs head coach was given a bunch of 382 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:08.480 love to the UCF d line, saying, hey, we're sleeping 383 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:12.160 on from a national perspective, we're sleeping on what UCF 384 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:14.000 can bring to the table there. 385 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:15.640 So I like the Knights. 386 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:18.039 I think this is a super interesting matchup. I also 387 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:22.000 love Shader Sanders' grittiness. I think he is toughness, his 388 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:23.799 ability to stand in the pocket, and I know he's 389 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:25.720 an easy guy to kind of hate on and whatnot. 390 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:29.440 But the conflicting styles is fascinating to me. And from 391 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:32.039 a Utah lens, when you talk about, hey, what they 392 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:35.039 have coming down the pipeline, that's an interesting question, like 393 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:38.000 would you rather have a UCF team that prides themselves 394 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:40.799 on physicality? Well, if you're Utah, great, we pride ourselves 395 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:44.480 on physicality, bring it. Or does a team like Colorado 396 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:46.480 that's going to spread the ball around and have weapons 397 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:48.440 on the outside. And if you catch him waking up 398 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:49.920 on the right side of the bed one day and 399 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:52.119 they can put up a bunch of points, does that 400 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:54.640 give you more fear? I don't really know the answer 401 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:56.680