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Speaker 1: Seattle on the road playing Arizona, sixty one percent of

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the money coming in on Seattle, it's up to minus

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it's down to forty three. We're gonna tell you exactly

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how to make money on that game. We're gonna delve

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into the college football game that's going tonight. We're gonna

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take apart the entire MLB card and Joe and myself

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have got two college football and NFL best bets for you, plus,

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of course, our parlay of the day. If you faded

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all three yesterday, you had a winner. Joe Naii, Art

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de Caesar, How are you boys, Art? What's going on

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over at the west Gate now?

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Speaker 2: Much press? Ready to roll on a fun weekend?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Art, we all three lost our parlay of the

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day yesterday, and you know, I'd rather all three of

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us lose than just me. Feels better, I would agree. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't have that graphic, by the way, I'm just

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throwing that out there. I don't know what happened to it. Art.

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I had it lined up and I just I can't

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Speaker 1: I just want to shout out, we have a mail

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bag section. Every day you guys put comments up we

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talk about him. Yesterday we had a person put up

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a comment about how his female boss was looking over

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his shoulder saw Joe Naii and well, Joe, do you

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want to shout her out at all? Maybe give her

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your phone number and email address. You guys could go

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on a date there you go called Jo Naii.

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Speaker 3: Art.

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Speaker 1: How do we How do we look at this college

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football game tonight East Carolina Army? What kind of bets

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are you're taking on this game? And what should we

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do with it?

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Speaker 2: It's a very interesting game, Army at East Carolina. Our

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early initial money came in on East Carolina at minus

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three and a half. That was Monday morning. We got

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all the way up to five on the game. Then

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the Army buy back game five and four and a half.

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We're now four on the game, so all the late

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We'll need East Carolina in the game, really no much.

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Not much as far as movement on the total goes

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or need on the total. And just a couple of

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quick Saturday games to just throw out there. Indiana goes

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to Iowa. Indiana is a seven and a half point

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road favorite. They laid seven with Indiana, they took eight

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with Iowa. That's why we're in the middle game of

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the year. Line on that boys was Iowa minus one,

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so there's been a huge adjustment on that. And then

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you have to mention this game just because the line

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is ridiculous. Ucla goes to Northwestern. Northwestern is a six

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point favorite. Ucla obviously has fired their coach. Usually that's

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a good angle next game after the coach gets fired.

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But it's just it's of note that Northwestern is such

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a big favorite against UCLA.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy, art because they haven't been a

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favorite since the COVID year of more than six points,

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and that was against Illinois and they've been a train

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wreck ever since. It's are you seeing any money on

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the total side too, as well? Because I gotta feel

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like there's gonna be money coming in on Ucla late

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in this one. I think.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the thing, because we really haven't seen

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money either way, Joe, But I think eventually we will

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see people take the six and I think people are

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gonna take shots with Ucla on the money line as well,

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because you know that's gonna be a nice plus price

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basically like a two dollars price on a team that

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you know, like we said, shouldn't be that big of

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a dog. Obviously it has not gone well from UCLA

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early year, but man, that line is just seems out

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Speaker 1: All right, this hea'son enjoining us everyone, guys, hit that

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of the day is coffee. Coffee. I freaking love coffee.

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You guys, where are you at with coffee?

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Speaker 3: I have the ip right here, fress double express own

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expresso machine hooked up next to me.

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Speaker 1: A friend of mine prefers drip coffee over anything anyway.

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College football tomorrow, we're going to discuss Oregon, Penn State, Bama,

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Uga and Auburn and A and M. Is that correct? Art?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we could definitely talk about the big games

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again see some movement. But there's also three Friday games,

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so we'll touch a log as well. Yeah yeah, well no,

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we should definitely revisit kind of where the money has

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shifted over the week with those big games, no doubt

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so make sure to tune in tomorrow. Let's

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talk NFL, and before we get into tonight's game, art,

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let's look at the overall picture. What's going on with

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Sunday and Monday. Any big bets you've made, you've taken

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and that we need to know about. Let's stay conceptual

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just before we touch on a Thursday game,

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a couple of games that we just really have not

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hit on this week. Washington goes to Atlanta and is

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now a pick them. Obviously, we're booking the game assuming

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that Daniels doesn't play on a look aheadline. If Daniels

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was playing, that would be two two and a half

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three for Washington when we had it at one. We

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took sharp money on Atlanta at plus one and on

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the money line, so right now Washington will be a

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need for us. Colts go to the ram That was

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a look aheadline of six and a half. It's now

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three and a half. Obviously the Colts have really been

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upgraded in the power rankings a lot of over money

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as well. We were forty eight now forty nine and

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a half on that game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk to night Seattle against Arizona, and I know, Joe,

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you have a playoff for your clients tonight. I don't, guys,

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I really struggle to find any thing in this game,

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and I spent a lot of time. I mean I

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went from sides to totals, to team totals to prop bets,

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and you know, my issue here is that I don't

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know who these teams are. We got an Arizona team

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that defensively has been outstanding, except they haven't played anybody.

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We have an Arizona team that could score really fast

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once a game. We have a Seattle team that has

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a quarterback that could lay an egg in a minute

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or go eleven for fourteen with two hundred and two tds.

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I find a lot of inconsistencies with both of these teams.

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I'm gonna lay off this game completely. Joe, what do

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you like? Well?

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Speaker 3: I want to art walk me through what we've seen

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from where this open to where we are right now,

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because it feels like the Joe's and the pros are

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on the same side here this week, and this numbers

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is not even higher before kick.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, I mean look aheadline on this was Cardinals

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two and a half. Obviously we're Seattle one and a half.

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Now totals really come down as well. You know, on

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a look ahead, we were forty six, we're now forty three.

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We're gonna need Arizona in the game, unless something comes

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in late or we get overwhelmed at some point with

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some Arizona money, which I don't see. More of the

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Arizona bets have been little nibbles, the real sharp respected money,

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and even the public nickel bets, you know, the five

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hundred dollars bets that were taken from general public players

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have been on Seattle. So Arizona's gonna be a need

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for us, no doubt. And a couple of props I

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want to throw out there that we've seen good money on.

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We see Trey Benson, Trey Benson under rushing guards fifty

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eight and a half and fifty six and a half

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were now fifty three and a half.

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Speaker 1: And Joe and.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray his rushing yards under thirty and a half.

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We're now twenty seven and a half. So both those

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Cardinals they think will go under their rushing total.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe, we've.

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Speaker 1: Seen a lot of money pouring on Seattle. Is this

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a reflection of their outstanding victory against the Saskatchewan rough

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Riders last week or is this more a play against

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Arizona who beat the Edmonton Elks last week? That you

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get my point.

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Speaker 3: No, I get your point, But I think it's a combination.

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I mean, number one, you're talking about under coach McDonald

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since he's taken over Seattle, they're eight and one straight up,

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five and three against the number when playing on the road. Wow,

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they have absolutely dominated this matchup too. With Gannon and Murray.

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Murray can't beat them. The Cardinals are three and ten

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against division opponents under Gannon. They are not. This is

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not a spot that I want to back the Cardinals

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or Kyler Murray, especially given the fact that they are

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so banged up. They got cluster injuries on the offensive

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line right now, and their secondary is a mess. They've

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got three starters, two of which likely aren't playing here.

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One is questionable. They are very vulnerable right now. And

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keep in mind pressed they just lost to the backups

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of the forty nine ers. The backups, no Bosa, no party,

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no nothing, and they couldn't get anything done there. This

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is the healthiest Seattle's defense, by the way. They're getting

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Witherspoon back, They're getting their safety back and they rushed

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the quarterback better than anybody. So to me, this is

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a bad spot to look for Arizona to do good things.

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Speaker 1: Jesus Art, I think I'm talked into Seattle here. Oh yeah, yeah,

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that was a hell of a breakdown, Joe NII just

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saying saying, okay, so there we go. Art gave you

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guys two prop bets, although you missed both of them.

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Would have been nicer to know him yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's smoove. I'll only giving you

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the information. Listen, you can go find different numbers. I mean,

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you know, we just are low one pension now because

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of the money we've taken. We got hit twice on them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, let's turn our attention to the parlay of

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the day and then Art, there is a question I've

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got to find from one of our listeners for you

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that I do want to go through. But the parlay

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of the day college football, Thursday, three legs, all college.

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I will start with Houston minus thirteen and a half.

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They're playing Oregon State. I will break this game down later,

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but that is my leg one of our college football parlay.

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Speaker 3: Joe, that's impressive there Art, let me get to you

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here so we can get you the hell out of here,

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because I know you got places to go, and then

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I'll clean it up. And since we lost this yesterday,

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let's mix it up here. Who you going with?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take Washington at home plus eight. I

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know Ohio State's one of the best teams in the country,

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but they got to go on the right with a

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young quarterback. I think Washington's a little bit better than

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people think. That's not an easy place to play. I'm

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getting over a touchdown. Give me the Huskies plus e nice.

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Speaker 3: I'll explain this game a little bit later as well, though,

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but give me the Duke Blue Devils on the road

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against a over hype Syracuse who just lost their starting

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quarterback for the year with Achilles Tair. I'll lay it

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with Duke here press there.

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Speaker 1: We go, and that is your parlay of the day. Art, Caesar,

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I know you're up against it real quick. Raid Jommy

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seven four eight seven interesting name creative parents they he

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wants to know. Do humans set the lines or is

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it a I I think you got some kick ass

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computers back in that room. That's what he writes. Now

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we don't need the specific to the Westgate, but you

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can answer it specific to the West Gate or overall.

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Who's adding the lines these days? Is it AI or

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human beings?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I can only speak for the room

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I sit in, and it's humans.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there are other places that use a lot

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of different models. They might use some AI. But as

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I think you boys know, we're a pretty old school

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book where you know, don't get me wrong, we look

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at the markets and we have all that going on.

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But you know, we put up NFL lines a week

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ahead of time. You know, there's no other lines out there.

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It's us putting our lines up, adjusting our numbers, obviously,

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adjusting and booking to the sides we need from respected

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and sharp money. So we're still pretty old school in

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that regard where it's really the human element for us

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at the West Gate.

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Speaker 1: Great question seven four eight seven Art, thank you for

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I hope you guys win at the Westgate. Every

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single bed except the ones Joe myself and all our

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Speaker 3: Right, I agree a lot of games here, Eric Prez.

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It's only going to get crazier as the college hoops

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and the NHL is just a round the corner as well,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait to do the NHL rundown like

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you're doing the baseball rundown. I'm gonna do the NHL rundown.

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You'll do the NBA rundown. We'll get somebody else to

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do the college basketball rundown and we'll put them on air.

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They'll just talk at nauseum for four months because there's

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pretty much no other way to do a college basketball rundown. Brother,

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we got or segments left two minutes each college football

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best bets Q that clock. I got two college football

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best bets to give you, guys. Let's start right off

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the bat with Houston minus thirteen and a half against

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Oregon State, and I think this might be the biggest

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mismatch on the entire board. This Oregon State Beavers team

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is horrendous on both sides of the ball. They might

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be statistically, no, they are statistically the worst team in

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the country. They have the one hundred and twenty six

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best offense or the one hundred and twenty six worst offense.

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They are one hundred and twenty nine in preventing scores.

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That is as bad as it gets. And now they're

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playing a Houston team that is three to zero on

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the season, coming off of a bye, feeling good about themselves,

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and ready to totally annihilate this Houston team. I don't

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understand this line at all. I think it's at least

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three to six points short.

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Speaker 3: Like that.

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Speaker 1: Many like I would say that this line should be

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probably minus seventeen and a half. When all said it done,

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I think Houston blows Oregon State out. Take Houston minus

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thirteen and a half all the way up to seventeen.

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Ole miss on the money line against LSU. Look this

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LSU team. Everyone thinks they're good. They just beat Clemson

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in Florida. Clemson and Florida are a combined one and

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six against real football teams, and I mean real football

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teams one and six. By this Ole Miss team, They're

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an absolute bustle. The Rebels are averaging seven and a

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half yards per play. They don't even have a punter.

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They are explosive, they are consistent. I don't know how

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LSU stops this team. I love Ole Miss on the

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money line. Here take Houston minus thirteen and a half

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Ole Miss on the money line, and Joe, what do

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we do with your two games?

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Speaker 3: I like that? Praz all right, we're gonna start with

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that Duke Syracuse game I talked about a little bit earlier,

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and listen, I'm shocked this isn't a little bit more.

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It appears that the public has fallen in love because

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they watched Syracuse dismantle Clemson while News slash Clemson isn't

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that good. And unfortunately, I might have been on the

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same page, would have had they not lost their starting

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quarterbacks Steve and Gali there with an achilles injury for

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the season. It's not like he won. Isn't a big

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part of what this team was doing. He's thrown for

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over thirteen hundred yards. He had ten touchdowns on the

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season before that injury. And yes, we've talked about Duke

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a lot on this show, Prez, but the reality is

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this is a real offense that's capable of putting up

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a ton of points. That means Syracuse is gonna have

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to play from behind in this game. I like Duke

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to get it done in this one. And the complete

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opposite is going to take center stage when San Diego State,

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Prez takes on Northern Illinois. Yes, Northern Illinois. Now, San

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Diego State did the unthinkable. They just shut out California

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at home last game, thirty four to nothing. It also

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helped that California turn the ball over nine hundred times

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in that game and gave San Diego State short fields.

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But now they're traveling to a different time zone for

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the first time this year. The Huskies awful offense, defense real,

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they always have a good defense. Don't see a ton

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of points coming in this game here, Prez. I also

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watched San Diego State only score thirteen points against an

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awful Washington State team so I think the easy play

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here is back to defenses. Expect less scoring forty three

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forty three and a half is the prevailing number here.

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I am looking at the under when it comes to

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San Diego State and Northern Illinois this weekend, Pres.

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Speaker 1: Joe, Yesterday you did an MLB rundown. I think you

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were seventy percent yes, top to bottom. So you gave

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out a lot of winners yesterday. The MLB season is

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winding down, the playoffs start next week, A lot of

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dramas still in play. How do we bet this card?

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Speaker 3: All right? Pres? So? A couple of things that are

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going on right now here in Major League Baseball Afternoon Baseball,

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Reds and Pirates, as well as the o's in the Rays,

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most likely going to be done by the time we're

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finished here. In the meantime, though, Twins and Range. Is

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Tyler Moley back on the mound against Bailey over who

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has been horrific. I think the Rangers keep rolling here.

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The Astros have been horrific, and they're sending Framber Valdez

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to the mound, who's also been terrible, down to stretch

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for him. The problem is they can't score any runs.

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If you can't score runs, can't win games. I like

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the Athletics to get it done once again. Diamondbacks going

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up against Yamamoto. It's a bullpen game for the Diamondbacks.

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They lost in extras. Still keeping pace with the Mets.

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I'm gonna take the Diamondbacks here to get it done

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this afternoon. The Marlins and the Phillies junk against Bueller,

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junk against Yeah, that's an over. I'm just gonna go

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with the over in that one. Prez. Tigers can't win

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a game to save their lives. Guardians again, especially against

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the Tigers, so I'll be back in the Guardians. The

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Yankees will destroy the White Socks the Red Sox and

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they might be in trouble in this one here with bo.

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I think the Blue Jays finally bounce back, get one,

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don't avoid the sweet to the Red Sox and keep

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pace with the Yankees. The Mets will be the Cobbs.

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The Mariners, even though they clinched and are probably still hungover,

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likely still to beat the Rockies here tonight. The Royals,

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with Lorenzen on the mound, should be able to get

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it done against the Angels and press that which just

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a couple of days left here in the Major League

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Baseball season. Is our rundown here for today, A lot

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of afternoon baseball here today.

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Speaker 1: Guz go Blue Jays, Joe, we got a little extra time.

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We got some juicy stuff in this mailbag section. Let's go. So,

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one of our listeners' rights a really interesting question, and

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I'm going to answer it, and then I'd like you

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to answer it. And what that question is is have

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you ever gotten to the point where you're just tired

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of betting on games? It's such a grind. So two

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quick things to that. One. This is what most of

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us do for a living, So it would be the

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equivalent of saying, have you ever gotten tired of being

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a construction worker? Have you ever gotten tired of going

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to work and being a teacher, or a marketing assistant

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or a bank manager. Yes, yes, we're all tired of

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our jobs. With that said, I don't spend my nights

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watching sports anymore, Joe, I almost never watch college basketball,

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I almost never watch NBA, and I almost never watch

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Major League Baseball, and I for sure never watch college football.

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So I can win in all those sports by studying

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the numbers, understanding what's going on I'm not living inside

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of that grind anymore. I was for the first like

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ten to fifteen years. You know I've slowed down.

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Speaker 3: You yeah, well to me. I mean the ultimate grind

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sports wise is major League Baseball when you have one

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hundred and sixty two game season, and I love it.

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I've always loved the game of baseball, played the game

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of baseball, and I love Major League Baseball this season

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here because there's a lot of new ice is an

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intricacy throughout one hundred and sixty two game season that

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give you an opportunity to get edges on a consistent basis.

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The problem is you can't handicap that's for two weeks,

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take three weeks off, come back for a week, and

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then think you're going to have any consistency. So the

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guys who truly enjoyed the grind are probably some of

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the better Major League Baseball handicappers that you'll meet. Press

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here you.

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Speaker 1: Go, guys, right questions, we'll answer them. Joe, I want

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to read one last thing. I know we're out of time,

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and so be it. Nick s Rights. Most betters are

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meat heads, and pres is a hippie meet head. Now, Joe,

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I don't know what a meathead is. I don't know

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if that's a good thing. I do know what a

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meathead is, but I want to just give my response

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quick and sort of Mike drop my way out of here.

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So I'm a hippie meathead that has built and sold

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five businesses. I'm a hippie meathead that retired at forty eight.

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I'm a hippie meathead that owns one of the owners

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of wager Talk, and a hippie meathead that owns a

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playhouse in Whistler. Joe, I'm the hippie meathead that all

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of you guys want to be.

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Speaker 3: Brad, I think we just read it wrong. I think

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maybe many meant meathead was that extremely successful individual here.

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That's I think that's what he meant. Yah, I'm pretty

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sure we eat meat, correct correct meat.

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Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a wagoo meat Oh wow, wagoo meathead

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like that. I love you guys. That was a great

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post man. It was funny. I know you're not starting

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with me. What a fun show. Everybody. Make sure to

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watch us tomorrow. Make sure to like the show, comment

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Sp I will see you tomorrow