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Speaker 2: You're listening to Matt Connorton Unleashed on w M n
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Speaker 3: If the skies are gray when the day is night,
I can't find my way. If the day is night
as homely and let me shine your eyes part of me.
Speaker 4: I still don't understand we hitting.
Speaker 5: That every night. We need to turn up all these
shiven time.
Speaker 6: We don't always get it right.
Speaker 7: And not tall No.
Speaker 6: My doll fall, she shows me.
Speaker 4: I sho't chose face.
Speaker 3: If you're far away when the day is nine, I
remain the say just like black and white.
Speaker 4: We should not assume just why I mean to you.
Speaker 8: A part of me.
Speaker 4: I still don't understand.
Speaker 3: We hide in bed at me night, no need to
turn up the life, always share it in my time.
Speaker 1: We don't always get it right. I just wanna get
it right.
Speaker 6: Why no, no, no, she's just SnO, she's speaking.
Speaker 9: Doug Sad, sackage, bus bog so cock sid buck, suckag.
Speaker 4: Hop side b side.
Speaker 10: That is she Chose Me by Kyle Gordon. I love
everything about that song. That is a perfect song. I
think we have Kyle on the line.
Speaker 11: Kyle are you there, can you hear me? Yes, Yes,
welcome to the show, my friend. That is so good.
I love that song so much. I love everything about
it absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I haven't heard it in a whole it'sunding good.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you got a little bit of a like in
the chorus there. You got a little bit of a
motown thing there. I love the so that guitar solo
is perfect. Everything about it. It's just it's a perfect
song because there's nothing you could do to that to
make it better. It's it's perfect.
Speaker 11: I love it well.
Speaker 8: It means a lot, thank you. I had very little
to do with that solo. I was I was blissfully
out of the room when that happened. Yeah, yeah, I'm not.
I'm not like a I'm not a great musician. I'm
just more of a songwriter.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So when we were in the studio, that was this
is this this album that this is the first song
off the album. Is the first time that I ever
got out of my own way to not do all
the instrumentation on a song. All I'm doing on that
song is the drums and the guitars. I'm sorry, the
acoustic guitars. I'm doing all the singing, but my very
good friend Nick Whitson is doing the bass and the guitar,
and then Chris, my friend Chris Simpson, is also doing
some bass. So a lot of that instrumentation is just
so beautiful and I'm I'm proud of it because I
had absolutely nothing to do with it. Yeah, man, I
think that's that's when collaboration, you know, is at its finest.
So yeah, thank you so much for playing it, and
I haven't heard it in a little while, and I
really enjoyed it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Good, it's really good. Do you uh do you perform
that live? Do you play out?
Speaker 8: Yeah? I play out, but not as not as Kyle
Bordon yet. My career has kind of been a weird. Yeah.
As of right now, I'm playing under two names, Mama
Bear and Anthems. This new Yeah, this new project Anthems
is is it. It's fantastic. It's a rock project. But
the Kyle Gordon stuff kind of represents songs that I
write that that don't see the light of the day,
my rock and roll projects. Okay, so because I write
all kinds of music, man, so this to me what
I like about the Kyle Gordon project. It's a lot
slicker and a lot more refined than all my other projects.
And a lot of that, again has to do with
the fact that I'm not doing mostly instrumentation anymore. Okay,
I just yeah, I come into a studio with a
song idea, I record what I think is the song,
and then when we're done with it, it's almost it's
almost unrecognizable. And I know you and I have never
really spoken. You don't really know anything about me, but
I've been making music for twenty five years. I'm super yeah,
and I'm super proud of this album because it represents
something I've never done before. And the whole maximum is
the only rule was we can't do what we've done
in the past, right, you know, Like there's like no big, huge,
booming electric guitars, you know, or so I'm not screaming
every point. I have to make a lot more crooning
and stuff like that, and just trying to flex muscles
that I've never flexed on a studio before. So yeah, man,
it's a I got a lot of really cool songs
to show y'all. This is just the first one, and
I'm so excited. It's nice to meet you. How's your day?
Speaker 9: One.
Speaker 11: Yeah, very well, very well, thank you.
Speaker 10: No, I've been looking forward to talking about them because,
like I said, I love that song so much. Is
it important to you to because you've got other projects too,
Is it important to you to have multiple things where
you can kind of explore different genres or different different
approaches to creating music.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, I like to compartmentalize things, like Mama Bear
is my little indie project. Okay, I'll always I'll stick
like two artistic songs on it, but the rest of
it's just like a very indie garage rock project. And
then Anthems I'm creating with my very good friend Houston B,
who was in a band called Heavy Mojo and they
were very popular, kind of like this rap rock thing.
And B is such a good songwriter, So he and
I are doing stuff with Anthems, and it's like we
call it industrial strength R and B interested kind of
like punk and R and B mixed together. And so
and I grew up in Atlanta.
Speaker 11: I'm sorry, Oh, I just said, Really that sounds interesting.
I want to hear some of that. Definitely.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's really good. In the middle of finishing an
album and an EP, we put out an EP last
summer and we're torn around. We're going to go to
England next year with it, and I'm super stoked about that.
Speaker 11: Excellent.
Speaker 8: But yeah, man, so I compartmentalize my music so that
so the Kyle Gordon stuff is kind of like it's
like an indie pop thing, I guess you could call it. Yeah,
And I like, I like making pop music, you knew?
Speaker 10: Yeah, what's the music scene like? I mean, obviously, so
you're in Atlanta? Now, did you grow up there?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, I did all my formative views here in Ato.
Speaker 10: Okay, Okay, what's the music scene like there? I would imagine.
I would imagine it's a lot of different kinds of things,
which which is probably why you're into, uh, you know,
making different kinds of music and compartmentalizing it.
Speaker 11: I assume, yeah.
Speaker 8: Is that? Yeah, Well, growing up in Atlanta, you know,
hip hop is very pervasive. I grew up in the
early nineties, so I remember, I remember hip hop, I
remember R and B, and then I remember Nirvana.
Speaker 11: Yep.
Speaker 8: My mom raised me with the Beatles, and so I
think all those like the the aggressiveness and the accessibility
of Nirvana coupled with the brilliance of the Beatles, and
then like this, the rhythm, the rhythm heaviness of hip
hop was a huge influence on me. I think if
you're writing a song and people aren't moving around to it,
then you did you did? You missed the point, right,
you know, Like it's it's great to connect with people
through lyrics, it's it's awesome to do all that, but
if they're not moving their body like that's unless it's
unless it's classical, or it's not just to do that. Sure,
but you know, I think that's what's cool about music
is it's it just gets inside you and you don't
know why you're moving, but you're just moving and it
feels city. I'm good to do it. So yeah, like Atlanta,
the music scene in Atlanta has always been very vibrant,
like you're talking about, and I'm sure every town could
say the same thing. I don't think that Atlanta is
better than the other town, but I do think Atlanta
is very unique in the sense that when I was
going up, like all kinds of bands blew up on
a national level that I knew personally, you know, they
were doing their thing. And so Atlanta has a very vibrant,
rich scene. I'm currently I'm raising two little kids, so
I'm kind of not in the scene anymore. Okay, yeah, yeah,
I'm mainly just recording and playing shows these days. But
I mean there's those kids are still there on there
messing stuff up and breaking things in the right way. Yeah,
you're supposed to, and God bless them, you know. Yeah,
like you're only you're only in your in twenties, first
short amount of times out there and find out who
you are and make your name, you know, to find
out who you are and do your thing. So yeah, man,
music is in Atlanta. It's it's very important here. Yeah,
and a lot of a lot of people in the
world listen to Atlanta musicians. They may not even know it,
but right, and Atlanta's cool because it sucks. It sucks
everyone in from Ah. You know, you could say, there's
a there's a cup around the map of Atlanta, and
if you didn't move to Nashville, you came to Atlanta.
You know. If you're in the Midwest, you go to
Chicago or Nashville, but everyone in the South coalesces into Atlanta.
I was the same way. I was a suburban kid.
I didn't grow up in Atlanta. I moved down to
Atlanta to be cool and be seen C and BC
and et cetera.
Speaker 5: Know.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so yeah, Atlanta, Atlanta. Love Atlanta. Yeah, you're up
in New Hampshire.
Speaker 11: We're in New Hampshire.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Manchester, New Hampshire where it's a little little chillier
was by bear.
Speaker 8: In the White Mountains of New Hampshire when I was thirteen.
Speaker 11: Okay, please please sell it. Please yeah, please tell that
story because I'm very, very interested to hear this. Yikes.
Speaker 8: My dad, My dad was like, I got a man,
this boy up and was like he live in New
Jersey my whole life. Yeah, He's like, man, this boy up,
take him out of the mountains. So we go hiking.
It's like six days and I'm like the most tenderfooted
person you ever met. I'm so soft and so you know,
I'm like a mess the whole time. We have a
water filter, we've got this dry free food. We're like
legit camping, right, yeah, and so on. Like the sixth
day we land at this three walled cabin and I'll
just never forget it was the White Mountains of New Hampshire.
God knows where I guess that means something to you,
yeah and or yeah. So anyway, this bear named Brutus.
He was a black bear, and there was a little
polaroid of him above this clipboard. And I'm imagine the
clipboard was there just to kind of you could leave
a note for someone that you saw. Oh hey, I remember,
I remember specific like Jim, I beat you summer in
ninety five. Oh yeah, you know whatever. And then I
saw things there's no Brutus. Good.
Speaker 11: Oh.
Speaker 8: I was like, what does that mean? I look up,
there's a picture of a black bear in this a
little note saying this is Brutus. He's the predominant black
bear in this area. He's never hurt anyone, don't see him. YadA, YadA, yadda.
Later that day, he chased three campers up onto that
three walled cabin I mentioned earlier. And then he came
right into our campsite, ate our lemonade, chased me into
a tent, almost collapsed the tent. My dad's trying to
scare him off with these two little POTSI brought to
boil water. And so I've never camped since, not once.
Speaker 11: Wow, that's intense.
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, it was really intense. And the way
I look at it now is like the bears, like
they live in the woods. That's there, Atlanta, Ya, they
get that, Like I don't. I don't go there anymore.
Like that's theirs. They they deserve it, they should have that,
And I don't go there anymore. Exactly, I don't want
to travel with a gun, right, I ain't gonna get.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 7: I like that.
Speaker 11: I can kind of relate.
Speaker 10: I mean, I've never had an intense experience like that,
But the lack of interest in camping I can relate to.
I grew up here, but I've never But people are
surprised when I tell them this. I've never been camping
in my life, and I'm never going to go. I
don't want to go out. I don't want to be
in the woods. I don't want to. I don't want
to risk encountering something that could eat me.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 11: I'm terrified of deer ticks. Deer you know, deer ticks
are very common.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you don't want that. Lime disease, man, No way, exactly.
Speaker 11: Oh, I've not. I know so many.
Speaker 10: I've met so many people who have lime disease because
they went out in the woods and came into contact
with a deer.
Speaker 8: Tick.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so I'm with you on that.
Speaker 8: Yeah. No, I like hot showers and uh, you know,
like take out food.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, concrete and steel, concrete and steel. That's right,
that's the way to go.
Speaker 8: But I will say this, I do recall the White
Mountain of New Hampshire and if I referred to it
being gorgeous.
Speaker 11: Oh very much.
Speaker 8: So yeah, it was absolutely beautiful. But there's bears, so yeah, brutish.
I wonder British is still alive. I don't know. I mean,
this is like like thirty years ago. Man, I don't
know how long it was thirty years ago. It was
nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 10: Man, oh, just be just be careful with the We're
on FM terrestrial radio, so just be careful with what
you say.
Speaker 11: Oh that's okay. We're on an eight second delay. So
I caught it, no, no problem, but yeah, gotcha. Yeah yeah,
but uh yeah, so I don't yeah, I don't go
into the woods.
Speaker 10: But did you always did you always live in Atlanta
or did you live anywhere else in the US at
any point?
Speaker 8: Was born in Texas, Oh, in Texas. My mother and
father split when I was one so my dad moved
in Jersey, my mom moved to Atlanta where she had
like a family.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So I was either in Atlanta or New Jersey my
whole life, okay, but mainly Atlanta. I did all my
schooling down here, So I consider myself with Georgia.
Speaker 11: Boy, gotcha? Gotcha?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 10: So what is you know, you've got multiple projects going.
Is there one that's kind of the biggest priority for
you right now? Is it the Kyle Gordon project? Or
I mean, you know, because you've got Mama Bear and
you've got Anthems, and I mean it sounds like you're
doing a lot.
Speaker 11: Is there a hierarchy?
Speaker 8: Toth is the most important to me?
Speaker 11: Okay?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Anthems is the most important because it's a functioning band. Yeah,
you know, there's four of us, were all writing for it,
like we all creator in parts for it. Whereas like
Mama Bear is Mama Bear. I created Mama Bear in
twenty thirteen after yet another one of my bands, I
believe in broke up right. Oh, and that back then
there wasn't Internet radio, if you you know, if you
didn't other than my Space in early Facebook, you know,
so these bands I'd be in this band for two years,
we'd make an album that we all really believed in.
It was frankly really good because I have I like
to think of myself as artistically integ like, and there's
integrity in it, Like I'm not just banging out stuff
to be heard, because that's not the point, like I
want to. I want to enjoy it myself. So like,
I'd make an album with these guys and then the
band would break up and it was like it never happened.
And so after a while, after like the third band
breaking up, and this is like seven eight years of
my life, I was like, you know what, I'm just
going to make albums by myself the way I want
because I can play every instrument to some degree already.
So I formed Mama Bear to just be an outlet
for my songs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And.
Speaker 8: The reason I chose Mama Bear was because it's it's
a it's a it's a it's a word or a
phrase in the lexicon of every Western speaking person. Everyone's
heard the term mama bear. It was easy to remember.
And then two, it was also kind of cheeky and
sarcastic because I'm not making soft music, right, so I
but I also think it was kind of it kind
of worked against me too, because like even my father
would be like, there's a terrible names, but like you
just don't get it. But so anthems means the most
to me because it's an the functioning living organism where
Mama Bear. I haven't really recorded anything under the name
Mama Bear since I got back from England in twenty
three and so the Kyle Gordon project is kind of
I'm just like, I've been sitting on these songs for
a little while because I really liked them and I
wanted to do it right. I wanted to promote them correctly,
and I hooked up with some people in Wales, Ian
and Ange of we believe they're a husband wife's team
and they are just the salt of the earth's best people.
Ian's Ian's one of my best friends in the whole world,
and they're they're the one the reason you and I
are talking is because of them.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So they They've been a huge Mama Bear fan. They've
toured me around the UK twice wow. And then they
hooked me up with Big pr which hook me up
with you. So I'm just I'm just thankful, man Like
I just I don't even remember your question. I think
I've just been wandering off.
Speaker 11: No, no, that's my words. No, that's no.
Speaker 10: I was curious if there was a sort of a
priority or a hierarchy in terms of what is most
most important right now.
Speaker 8: But I just following the success if I see, you know,
all the projects have something cool about them. Yeah, and
I believe in all three of them. And the Kyle
Gordon project is is the newest in terms of just
like in my world, the sexy thing because it's new
and outside of my wheelhouse. But one thing, I want
to make a piano while I'm next. Oh really, I
think that'd be really fun. Yeah, make like a piano
like Sunday afternoon music. And then I met this guy
that plays really awesome jazz in Atlanta and were kind
of mess around, like, Okay, I got to make a
good job. It's just while I'm alive, I want to
make as much music as I can before I'm gone.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a good policy, definitely.
Speaker 8: Yeah. I get I get morbid like that. I'm like, no,
I got this idea in my head. I got to
get out. What if I die? You know, I just
may not be the best idea in the world. But
I believe, I believe in it's that. That's beautiful. I'll
be done in that.
Speaker 11: Okay, Oh, that's okay, no worries.
Speaker 10: I'm curious what was your first instrument, because you mentioned,
because obviously you play multiple instruments.
Speaker 11: What did you start with?
Speaker 8: I started with the trumpet in really sixth grade class,
and I wasn't I wasn't inspired or very good. It's
just it was what I started with. Yeah, I grew
up listening to music with my mother, and I remember,
like it's kinda step outside. I remember like listening to
music with her, and you know, now we call it
the hook or whatever that part of the song is
they grab you. I remember as a little kid, I
I couldn't wrap my head around music, and whenever the
songs felt really good, I would I'd feel it really deep,
and I asked my mom, like, what is that? Why
does that feel so good? Yeah, and I thought that
every song utilized the same thing. Oh, it's just that
feel good art. So I think music just kind of
struck me like it was intriguing. I couldn't wrap my
head around it, and in particular, twelve spilverhammer when I
would listen to that song as a kid, I was like,
this sounds like a cartoon. It sounds like, you know,
like Saturday morning cartoon music, right, And so you know,
just this idea that something you can't hold, taste, feel
or see it has such an impact on you, like
never really left me. Yeah, And eventually, I guess I
started playing trumpet just as an extracurricular thing from school.
It wasn't like, oh, I'm going to be the neck
where the big trumpet guy is at I'm showing my
ignorance right now. It wasn't like that. It's more like
something to do. But my real first instrument was a guitar,
like every other jerk, just figuring it out. And I
was terrible for a long time, and to this day
I'm just I'm kind of okay at it. Okay, it's
insane how I've been playing guitar for a million years now,
and I'm I consider myself a very middle guitar player.
I don't make it scream. That ain't my job. My
job is to I was always really intrigued with the
songwriter of the band. You know, it wasn't the it
wasn't the front man or it wasn't the good looking
girl that could sell it, which God bless her. We
need her, we need him. But I was always intrigued,
like I love Oasis, but I'm the no guy, Okay,
who wrote the song that makes you that changed your world?
Forget who sung it, but who wrote it? Right, I'm
a big I'm a big fan of the writer at
the bands.
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, that makes sense, that makes sense.
Speaker 10: And then so you also play it turns me on
you mentioned too you played drums, and I assume.
Speaker 11: You play bass. Yeah, yeah, I play all I play
all that and keyboard, I assume, right, yes I do.
Speaker 8: I bought it. I didn't buy I got a piano
off Eggs list about three years ago. It's sending in
my sun room. I sit around and I'm yeah, and
I knew how to play, you know, first position, major
and minor chords up and down the keyboards because it's
just twelve notes, right, But now I'm learning second third position.
I'm trying to get some separation between my right and
my left hands. Yeah, while they had their hand and
so I'm trying to learn all that, and it's a
lot of fun. I love to just sit there and
tinker on the piano. It is. It is very liberating.
Speaker 10: I've heard so many, uh so many music professors and
instructors say that whether you're just starting out or whether
you already play other instruments, you know, being at least
somewhat proficient on the keyboard will help you with literally
everything else that you play.
Speaker 8: Oh dude, Yeah, Well it's so linear, you know, Like
with the guitar, it's slightly metaphorical. You've got half steps,
a fret, whole steps, two frets. Okay, my mind's already
kind of bobbled by that, and then the B string
is step off, and then you got that wonky little string.
Now the keyboard it's just abcdes all the way down
the line, repeat, repeat, repeat. And so yeah, it's very linear.
And when I play the piano, i play it much
differently than I played the guitar. Yeah, and it's just
because I've developed the style of the guitar and so
now I'm trying to figure out what's my style on
the piano. Yes, And it's intriguing and it's fun, and
I wish I had learned twenty years ago. I had
taken it way more seriously because I'm way more artistic
on the piano than I won a guitar. Okay, So
the good news is I hopefully I still got some
life left in me and we'll get something out of
it sooner or later. But I said I want to
make a piano album. I'm just I got to learn
how to play the piano.
Speaker 11: Right, right, of course, of course.
Speaker 8: I guess I got to learn to walk before I've run.
Speaker 11: Now, what is the So you mentioned an album.
Speaker 10: So you're going to do a full album of Kyle Gordon,
of that project specifically.
Speaker 8: Okay, it's already made. It's done.
Speaker 11: Oh, it's done, I can oh, excellent done.
Speaker 8: Do you have any kind of a going to put
out each song individually? I don't know if you're aware
of this, but people don't buy music anymore. So I'm
just going to put out singles and then eventually I'll
just put them all out under the name, under a name,
and the goal is to get back in the studio.
I've already got a my Buddy, and I've already got
a follow up song, a couple of follow up songs
to the album. So it's mainly just like governing what
project gets what very few finances I have at the time. Sure,
and as of right now, Anthems is a functioning band.
We just played a show last week that went really
well and and uh we're recording that, so kind of
like my my, what I have financially right now is
going into Anthems.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, understood, understood, But uh, but I do look
forward to hearing more of the well, I'll check out
the other stuff too, but I'll look forward to hearing
more of of the Kyle Gordon project.
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, it's it's I mean, I really believe in it, dude.
I've been sitting on it for a few years because
I've wanted to.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 8: I wanted to be in a mental place where I
could just focus on it. And I guess that doesn't
make much sense, But what I mean is, uh, like
I just knew I had something kind of cool and different,
and I'm not And to answer your question earlier, I'm
not playing it live because I would need like eight people,
you know, to reproduce that sound on stage. So I
have done a few solo Kyle Gordon shows where I
just show up with an electric guitar and I was
saying and all that, Yeah, and it's cool it's cool.
But I'm not like a I'm not like a super
stellar solo guy. You know, I have a lot of
respect for Ed Sheeran, for example. I don't like his music,
but damn if I don't respect darn. If I don't
respect him, I could say the D word. That was okay,
so because yeah, he can sell it. I don't like
what he's saying, but but man, I got respect because
I've tried to do it and it ain't easy. So yeah, yeah,
it's not my bread and butter. I'm much better with
an ensemble. I can lean into stronger musicians than myself.
In fact, I have a maximum and so if I'm
on stage, I have to be the least talented person.
And if I'm the least talented person on stage, We're
gonna have a great show.
Speaker 11: There you go.
Speaker 7: I like that.
Speaker 11: I like that a lot.
Speaker 10: And by the way, I agree with you on Ed
Share and I feel the same way about him. You know,
I respect him. I respect the hell out of him.
You can say hell too, but but I don't.
Speaker 11: But I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't like what he says, but yeaham, if he's
not really good at doing it, I don't buy and
though the whole Oh he's not cool. I mean, screw
that stuff like that. I don't I dipped out on
that whole like cool scene a long time ago, because
cool just means insecure, you know, it just means you're
so insecure, you're gonna let everyone know how insecure you. So.
Let Ed Sharon be Ed, whatever the hell's name is.
Let him be him. He's not in your way, he's
not hurting you. He's just crushing his short life. You
have a problem with that because you a problem with yourself.
Speaker 11: Yeah whatever, yep, well said, I agree.
Speaker 8: I don't care about the cool stuff like that. To me,
it's I've got two kids right now, and I'm and
they're very young. They don't understand anything I say yet,
but I'm teaching them that like cool is actually just
understanding quiet, wisdom and acceptance. That's what makes you cool.
Not saying a bad word because you think bad words
are cool. Big kids say bad word. You know what
I'm saying, Like, I know, I'm kind of breaking it down,
But it's the same with music and the whole identity
people put into music. I feel kind of diminishes the
power of the music, Like forget your suit. You know.
Oh you're a metal guy, so you Jessica metal guy? Okay, cool,
I get it. What you only listen to metal or
this or that? And right?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: And another reason I really don't like pop is because
it's so unreal. No one's cool. Everyone, everyone smells bad,
everyone wakes up feeling weird, Like, no one is cool, right.
This image we're pushed on with pop music and the
sleek side of music is so false and so fake.
Speaker 11: Sure, so yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm gonna get off my soapbox. I'm sorry.
Speaker 11: No, No, it's good though, No, No, it's good though.
Speaker 8: I like.
Speaker 11: I like what you're saying.
Speaker 10: Absolutely in terms of in terms of the Kyle Gordon project,
I mean, are you does is there an image that
will that will take shape with this or.
Speaker 8: Or or are you?
Speaker 10: Are you just completely not worried about that part and
it's more just about just putting out the songs, putting
out the music.
Speaker 8: Okay. When I heard your question, when I heard was I,
I pictured like, am I gonna go full ziggy star?
Does this or something like? I don't have any plans? Yeah,
Like at this point, I'm very comfortable with who I am. Yeah,
I'm a very flawed person, and I bring those flaws
onto the stage. Yeah, and I think that's what makes
me relatable.
Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 8: And so no, I don't really have any plans with
the Kyle Gordon project because I'm not even sure it's
ever anything that heard, you know what I mean. But
at this point, like I stopped making music videos about
five years ago, just for one, yeah, I for one,
I hate making them. Two it's a lot of work,
a lot of time. And then three, no one really cares.
And that's fine, Like, you know, I get it. You know,
they upload like seven million things a day on YouTube.
We're just going to get lost in that. And if
you're not willing to give a billionaire a few extra bucks,
you're just going to get buried in the oar. And
then so once I realized that there's a gatekeeper society
with music, it's all been monetized to the point where
you can't even do anything anymore. No, I don't have
any projects and any idea on how I'm gonna sell
this thing other than the fact that I'm just going
to slap my face on it and be honest. Yeah,
I've got a really good friend named Ben Underwood that
lives in Asheville, North Carolina, and he's the most delicious
creative collages. Like the stuff he comes up with is
so cool, and he's been so nice to create two
covers for me. Yeah, I just sent him a batch
of like selfies I took oh my hair looks good
today clip, So I send him that and he just
laps my face onto one of his collages and that's
what she chose me as one of his collages. And yeah,
so in terms of the presentation, I'm gonna go with
that kind of look. Yeah, man, no, no star on
the eye. I'm not gonna stuff a stock in my pants.
I'm just gonna go out and and I don't even
have any plans to play it live. It's w want
to and there's a demand, then I'll figure that out,
you know. Like, uh, the like she chose me as
actually getting more radio play than I've gotten in years.
But my day to day hasn't changed in the least.
I mean, like, yah, it's it's it's still just a
wonderful It's Saturday, right, It's a wonderful Saturday, you know,
And so if something comes of it, then yeah, I'll
put a little more effort into it. But yeah, in
terms of the way I look at it is I
just I really want to make a follow up to it,
to be honest with you. Yeah, So right now I'm
just kind of like writing songs with anthems, coming up
with ideas of my own and just kind of dreaming.
You know, this is like the this is the part
where things are slow and you're just kind of figuring
out what's next. Sure, and then get in the studio,
and then that's the real magic is just watching a
song evolve in the studio. Is is an intoxicating feeling.
I've never gotten tired of.
Speaker 10: It's cool that you like that, though, because not everyone does,
you know. I mean a lot of musicians love being
in the studio, but a lot of musicians too, as
as you know, are like, oh, I just want to
be on stage and they and they actually dread being
in the studio, you know. So it's cool that you're
able to embrace that, because not everyone can embrace.
Speaker 8: That kind of like well, that's that's that's your Sorry.
Speaker 11: I was just gonna say, it's kind of like camping,
you know, not everyone can embrace it.
Speaker 10: And right you and I do not embrace that, and
people probably think we're weird for not embracing that.
Speaker 8: But I've worked with a I worked with a really
great guy down here Land. I mentioned him earlier. His
name is Chris Sampson. Yeah, and he's worked with everyone
from the be fifty two's to me.
Speaker 11: Oh and nice.
Speaker 8: He's very well known, he's extremely talented, and he's like,
he's not gonna lie to you. And he and I
have known each other for a long time, so we're
very close friends as well. So yeah, when we're recording,
he'll be like, that was terrible. You can do better,
and just shoot it straight at me.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and.
Speaker 8: I really have learned to embrace like the vagueness of
the studio.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 8: The songs I can't stand that I wrote the most
are the ones that I had all planned out and
then I executed them exactly how I planned and then
I got exactly what I wanted and I hate it.
Speaker 11: Oh wow.
Speaker 8: So yeah, with the ording project again, we just came
up with a few rules. In the beginning. It was like,
for one, we're just gonna try it. We're not gonna
do anything we've done in the past. Yes, and that's
very liberating. That means I'm no longer tied to the
things that I didn't enjoy the past, which opens up
the door to all kinds of cool opportunities and new ideas. Sure,
but they never even like, never even fathomed. So with
his push that oh you can do better, you can
do better or and then then the happiest one went
is like oh yeah, and he starts getting real excited.
I'm like, okay, now I'm cooking, you know, yeah, and
we're going to focus on this thing now. So No,
I love being in the studio. I love being on stage.
The one the only thing I don't like about being
a musician is hanging around at venue for like five
hours way into play. I hate that stuff. I hate it.
I hate it. I hate it. I get so bored
and it's like the whole hurry up and wait thing.
That's that's one of my least favorite. But but when
you're on tour, it's a little different because at least
I'm in a place I've never run out and often
or revisiting. I can walk around the neighborhood. Yeah, you know,
like that's great.
Speaker 11: I love that, But no, I can relate though, so
I I don't play anymore, but I used to be.
Speaker 10: You know, I was in a bunch of bands and
whatnot before I decided to focus more on the radio
and podcasting part of what I do. But yeah, I
always I used to really struggle with that when you're
when you're waiting for a really long time to play,
it's like it's.
Speaker 8: My least favorite thing, you know, absolutely, especially in my
own hometown, you know, like, yeah, it's yeah, so yeah,
that's that's that's that's to me, the least favorite part.
But everything else is fun. I love the community, I
love meeting people. I love the energy exchange between the
crowd and the bands. And yeah, dude, it shows me.
I didn't. I didn't. I had no idea this is
gonna be my life. But as soon as I got
into it, it's you know, it's the only thing I
really stayed on too, you.
Speaker 11: Know, yeah, young so well, uh wow, the time goes quickly.
Speaker 10: We got to begin to wrap up, but before we do,
and by the way, at the end of our conversation,
I'm gonna play, I'm gonna cheat and play she shows
me again because I love that song.
Speaker 8: Day.
Speaker 11: Like I said, it's perfect. It's just perfect.
Speaker 10: But before we do that, let's make sure that I
want our listeners to know where's the best where are
the best places to go online to keep up with
everything that you're doing, not just the Kyle Gordon project
of course, Anthems and Mama Bear and everything.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the only, the only, like social media. I really
play with his Instagram, Okay, I don't you can find
all the projects I think across the board you were
streaming on Apple YouTube or all the things Spotify, all
the things. Anthems is spelled A N, T H M
Z okay. And then Mama Bear. I don't know if
it's an Atlanta thing, but all my bands are spelled
on purpose. Mama Bear is one word, M A M,
m ad e A R. Okay there because Mama had
two m's in it. I don't care who I'm Southern.
I like to put in extra continents and sounds.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So, and then Kyle Gordon is just my name. So
you can find me streaming down the musical rivers on
the internet wherever you want to find me. And then
if you want to stay hi or something, hit me
up on Instagram. And I hope everyone has a great day,
and I really appreciate your time. Thank you so much.
Sorry for saying the word earlier.
Speaker 11: That's okay. Like I said, we're on a delay. It's
not even a big deal. I caught it. It's no
big trust me. You are not the first. It's all good,
my friend.
Speaker 8: I didn't invent the word. That's cheers. Man.
Speaker 11: There you go, there you go.
Speaker 8: I really really appreciate your time, man, Yes, so much.
Speaker 11: Thank you, Kyle.
Speaker 10: We appreciate you joining us. We will definitely do this
in the future. And I can't wait to hear I
can't wait to hear the next uh, the next Kyle
Gordon song. Absolutely, but uh.
Speaker 11: We'll let you go.
Speaker 8: We're gonna hit me later today.
Speaker 11: Okay, all right, you got it, my friend. All right, Kyle,
take care.
Speaker 8: I have a nice day. Everybody take care.
Speaker 11: Ye bye bye. All right.
Speaker 10: That was the great Kyle Gory And we're gonna play
this again if you missed it, and if you didn't
miss it, you probably want to hear it again because
it's so good.
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