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Speaker 1: We're gonna get started with the topic of this evening.
Speaker 1: We are starting off real quick. Let me go ahead
Speaker 1: and share the scream Bob Bob, all right, we are
Speaker 1: starting off with this conversation piece, right, this conversation starter,
Speaker 1: if you will. We're gonna go ahead and start with
Speaker 1: Trump's nomination for the new FDA lead. Now, i'ma be
Speaker 1: honest with you. I feel like most people didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about Heidi Overton before Trump brought her name up.
Speaker 1: But here we are. So Trump nominates Heidi Overton to
Speaker 1: lead the FDA. Overton, who is a physician, is a
Speaker 1: White House aide who often briefs Trump on health issues. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is Heidi, and I've heard some things. I've heard
Speaker 1: some people talking some mad about her based off appearance, race, waits,
Speaker 1: her gender. There's people that are just they're sipping on
Speaker 1: that hater rade, y'all. They're sipping on the hater rade,
Speaker 1: which find somebody who enters the public limelight in this way,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be getting some hater rade regardless. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not even saying it's unjustified. I'm saying that I personally
Speaker 1: didn't know who this woman was this morning. You know,
Speaker 1: I feel like most Americans would say the same thing
Speaker 1: about her. But let's talk about her, doctor Heidi Overton.
Speaker 1: President Trump will nominate doctor Heidi Overton to be his
Speaker 1: new Food and Drug Administration Commissioner, he said Wednesday on
Speaker 1: social media. Doctor Heidi has been a rock star in
Speaker 1: my administration. Overton, who is a physician, is a White
Speaker 1: House domestic policy official who read regularly briefs the President
Speaker 1: on various health issues. She was at his side earlier
Speaker 1: this month when he announced an executive order aimed at
Speaker 1: reducing the number of universally recommended childhood vaccines. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: kind of been a big point that I've heard a
Speaker 1: lot of people talk about. She was very big on
Speaker 1: reducing the number of vaccines that kids get, not zero
Speaker 1: by any means, but cutting out some of the more
Speaker 1: excessive ones. A lot of people would say this makes
Speaker 1: her conspiracy theorists because she's trying to cut out vaccines.
Speaker 1: Others would say that she, you know, is a physician
Speaker 1: who's reading the paperwork and saying, hey, maybe we don't
Speaker 1: need eighty six vaccines before this child is twelve years old.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a bit much, you know, But all right.
Speaker 1: At the time, she urged blue States Democrat states to
Speaker 1: adopt the administration's gold standard recommendations, which many doctors said
Speaker 1: were not supported by current science. Current science like Fauci,
Speaker 1: who's taking the stand in pleading the fifth at every
Speaker 1: conceivable point because his science also murdered so many people
Speaker 1: from the eighties and nineties to now as the science
Speaker 1: were trusting. But all right. Trump preferred to the event
Speaker 1: in his post announcing the pick, Heidi is always right.
Speaker 1: Secretary Kennedy recently said in the Oval Office, he posted,
Speaker 1: we need her leadership at the FDA now to ensure
Speaker 1: that the US remains the world leader for scientific discovery
Speaker 1: and cures. According to a senior administration official with knowledge
Speaker 1: of the process, Overton was Trump's third choice for the position,
Speaker 1: and the administration was still interviewing candidates for the role. Tuesday,
Speaker 1: Former Representative brad Winstrop, who's a Republican from Ohio, declined
Speaker 1: the job, the official said, as did acting FDA Commissioner
Speaker 1: Kyle Diamantes, citing his young children and other personal reservations.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be the top guy in his administration
Speaker 1: right now, which, to be honest with you, I get,
Speaker 1: I really do. The amount of people that have walked
Speaker 1: away from the administration that we're seeing as like key figures.
Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about Kent. I'm not even talking
Speaker 1: about Tulsa Gabbard, I'm not even talking about Bongino. It's
Speaker 1: it's like there's a list. There's a growing list of
Speaker 1: people who are putting some serious distance between themselves and
Speaker 1: Trump right now. I don't think that's an accident. That's
Speaker 1: just me being a conspiracy theorist, I suppose. But one
Speaker 1: plus one still equals to here, so you know, do
Speaker 1: what you want with that anyway. If Overton is confirmed
Speaker 1: by the Senate, she would lead the agency at a
Speaker 1: delicate time with the recent multi state clo cyclospora outbreak.
Speaker 1: Is that the the thing where it's just like dysentery
Speaker 1: you eat some lettuce that's infected and you shut your
Speaker 1: brains out. They're calling that cyclospora. I think we just
Speaker 1: called that this far south of iten But okay, all right,
Speaker 1: fair enough, raising concerns about the safety of the nation's
Speaker 1: food supply. Sarah to Bill Cassidy, Republican from the Great
Speaker 1: State of Louisiana, the chair of the Senate Health, Education, Labor,
Speaker 1: and Pensions Committee, which will oversee Overton's nomination, said he
Speaker 1: has strong concerns, all right, her lack of managerial experience
Speaker 1: does not prepare her well for leading a large organization
Speaker 1: that is already dealing with staffing and morale issues. Additionally,
Speaker 1: doctor Overton's active role in last week's nonsensical vaccine executive
Speaker 1: order calls into question her commitment to stand up for
Speaker 1: sound science and protecting children's health. That alone is almost disqualifying,
Speaker 1: Almost disqualifying, But all right, fair enough. Cassie wrote this
Speaker 1: on X. Senator Patty Murray, a Democrat from Washington shocker,
Speaker 1: who is also on the Senate Help Committee, called Overton
Speaker 1: a far right anti abortion extremist who has no business
Speaker 1: the FDA. You know, I've already spoken on my beliefs.
Speaker 1: As far as abortion goes, I don't think being anti
Speaker 1: abortion makes you an extremist. I think that makes you
Speaker 1: somebody who believes in the life of the unborn. But like,
Speaker 1: all right, sure, if saying that life begins at conception
Speaker 1: makes you an extremist, then okay, fine, you got me.
Speaker 1: But okay, that's fine. Everybody's got their own opinions. Some
Speaker 1: people have the right to be wrong. The American people
Speaker 1: deserve someone who will put science and facts first, not
Speaker 1: another Trump sickophant who will make their mission to attack
Speaker 1: medication or yeah, attack medication abortion. I will vote no. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've already said my statement on that. Murray and I
Speaker 1: do not align. Oddly enough, a Democrat from Washington and
Speaker 1: I do not see eye to eye. To the shock
Speaker 1: of literally everyone in the chat right now, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but fine, okay. Republicans have a one member
Speaker 1: of majority in the committee which must advance the nomination
Speaker 1: to the full Senate for vote. Bloomberg was the first
Speaker 1: report that Overtim would be Trump's FDA pick. The timing
Speaker 1: of the official announcement is unclear, but is likely to
Speaker 1: be sometime this week. Overtim would replace doctor Marty McCarey mackery.
Speaker 1: I don't know who resigned from the position in May
Speaker 1: after clashes with the White House over issues like vaping
Speaker 1: policy and access to abortion pills. Yo, why are those
Speaker 1: two on the same docket? Can we just acknowledge this
Speaker 1: vaping versus murdering an unborn child? I feel I feel
Speaker 1: like I could be wrong, y'all tell me if I'm
Speaker 1: out of line here, but I just I feel like
Speaker 1: murdering an unborn child who did nothing wrong, and somebody
Speaker 1: buying vapes which they, as an adult, which you have
Speaker 1: to be over twenty one now, are making the conscientious
Speaker 1: decision to inhale shit that probably is bad for them.
Speaker 1: I feel like these are weird things to put in
Speaker 1: the same sentence. That's just me. I know I'm an
Speaker 1: extremist in all that, But anyway, Sam, see your hand
Speaker 1: the spirit animal, go ahead and speak on it.
Speaker 2: Rush Off, you're not the extremeist. I'm probably a lot
Speaker 2: more extreme than you are. But you want to talk
Speaker 2: about If you want to talk about some speapage that
Speaker 2: the government does, just look at ye old London, the
Speaker 2: provenance of England stand. Yeah, so it's okay for them
Speaker 2: to have gangs and females to be done like that
Speaker 2: trade like property. But if you're born after two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight, you can never smoke tobacco. And my theory
Speaker 2: is because it has been it has been invaded, England
Speaker 2: has failed. Hell, the king is a Muslim, so and
Speaker 2: tobacco is considered hallam, but not goats and children or not.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, no, I agree, let's look at I
Speaker 1: don't like how England is now passed that law to
Speaker 1: where they're going to just stop tobacco sales for anybody
Speaker 1: who hasn't started smoking yet. They're gonna say, no, never mind,
Speaker 1: you're never gonna smoke.
Speaker 2: If you were born after two thousand and eight, you
Speaker 2: will never be legally allowed to get it. And but England,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of England, England East or whatever
Speaker 2: you want to call English, I don't know. I call
Speaker 2: them red coats, bloody lobster backs. But yeah, no, they're like,
Speaker 2: why would we want to go to America? They're so
Speaker 2: backwards and backwater. So I'm like, y'all, just mancas, we
Speaker 2: gave you that l two undred and fifty years ago,
Speaker 2: first of manny and you just but yeah, y'all have
Speaker 2: so much white guilt. Y'all have pussy fat yourselves.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's the white guilt thing.
Speaker 2: I'd say that England should take their hand, reach, reach
Speaker 2: into their their wife's purse, grab balls, pull out we
Speaker 2: attached and say, you know what, fuck it, we will
Speaker 2: a world empire at one point time to time to
Speaker 2: bloody well show them.
Speaker 3: Hey, we still got some balls.
Speaker 2: But yet they've been completely castrated by their parliament.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, And I will say that the English people,
Speaker 1: the citizenry itself are standing up slowly but surely. The government, however,
Speaker 1: the parliament and everything else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the current regime of the I R A
Speaker 2: legitimate just said, hey, if you don't get all these
Speaker 2: immigrants out, we will give you a civil war. So
Speaker 2: all I guess is the Black and Tans better better
Speaker 2: watch out.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. I'm hoping that the English people
Speaker 1: will take back their country. I don't have a whole
Speaker 1: lot of hope for that, but I do have some.
Speaker 2: I mean, whether it goes one way or the other,
Speaker 2: I just feel like Ireland should be for the Irish,
Speaker 2: the Scotland should be for the Scots or Picks which
Speaker 2: have demographic you prefer yes today And I personally think
Speaker 2: England needs to go the fuck up.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But I also feel like America has some
Speaker 1: growing up to do on our own. If we're gonna
Speaker 1: if we're gonna call a spade of spade, let's make
Speaker 1: sure we call our own, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: for instance, all the Somali immigrants, we need to just
Speaker 1: go ahead and eradicate, get them out, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. All the illegals that are here, we gotta
Speaker 1: get them out too.
Speaker 2: I think we should go with how Poland is Just like.
Speaker 1: Dude, I am loving Poland more and more by the
Speaker 1: day I got you in Texas. Dude, they're straight up
Speaker 1: like arming their guards at the border and it's like, nah,
Speaker 1: just lay them out, just like no, we're not taking
Speaker 1: them as prisoner, Like no, you can open fire on
Speaker 1: people at the border. It's fine. And everybody Poland, how
Speaker 1: dare you? And Poland's like nah, nah, we're on that.
Speaker 2: Notice how they Poland is. While there is some diversity,
Speaker 2: there are no rape gangs in Poland. There is no
Speaker 2: terrorist attacks in Poland.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're not. We're not calling for a
Speaker 1: crazy statement like perhaps we should keep the rape gangs
Speaker 1: out of a country. Saying that apparently makes you some
Speaker 1: sort of a bigot, and it's like, no, I actually
Speaker 1: think that makes you a normal human being to say
Speaker 1: such a statement.
Speaker 2: Well, no, Jacob, you gotta realize that modern day that's
Speaker 2: called Islamophobia. And how My question is, how was a islamophobic?
Speaker 2: We're not, I, for one, do not fear ism. I
Speaker 2: just happen to fucking want to eradicate them all because
Speaker 2: I think there are answer upon the earth. That's not
Speaker 2: a few of them. That's a healty pattern recognition.
Speaker 1: That's that's literally just pattern recognition. At this point, there's
Speaker 1: there's certain systems and you want to say it's a
Speaker 1: religious thing, fine, okay, there are certain religions that will
Speaker 1: forcibly ostracize the lower in your community, like Hinduism, for instance.
Speaker 1: Hinduism gives way for the cast system, which makes the
Speaker 1: majority of the population untouchable and they are like the
Speaker 1: scum of the earth, like lower than dirt. That's what
Speaker 1: Hinduism does. The Vedic system does that is yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 2: Sorry, just to prove a point. And I like how
Speaker 2: you said in Islam, in the majority of the Arabic countries,
Speaker 2: let's just Palestine in gossip for example, do you know
Speaker 2: that they everyone talked about the South because we had
Speaker 2: segregation of Jim Crow, which truth that shit's a point
Speaker 2: and it shouldn't have happened, agreed, But no one wants
Speaker 2: to talk about Oh, Palestine, they have They're in an
Speaker 2: actual aparthide state. They have the blacks separated living in
Speaker 2: a certain part of town that they use the Arabic
Speaker 2: word for slaves. Yeah, but yet when I bring that up,
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, no, they don't.
Speaker 1: No, It's crazy how even within the Muslim world, like
Speaker 1: you have to segregate the Shia from the Sunni, And
Speaker 1: by segre I don't mean oh, we just make them,
Speaker 1: you know, not get no, Like I have guys that
Speaker 1: were deployed that had to build walls between the Shia
Speaker 1: and the Sunni groups because they were just as likely
Speaker 1: to fire at each other and get into fights with
Speaker 1: each other as they were to fight somebody that you
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, Like, it's not the whole segregation conversation.
Speaker 1: I'm not pro segregation, especially not in the United States.
Speaker 1: I'm not for that, we also need to acknowledge that
Speaker 1: it's a case by case situation and if the Sooners
Speaker 1: in the Shias don't get along, we just keep them
Speaker 1: separate and everybody's happy, you know what I mean. When
Speaker 1: it comes to Islamic extremism. There are certain Muslim countries that,
Speaker 1: while I don't agree with how they do business, I
Speaker 1: don't agree with their laws and things like that, they
Speaker 1: also are not trying to implement certain levels of Sharia
Speaker 1: law into their land, and all right, cool, that's great.
Speaker 1: There are certain Muslim countries that slavery. Open air slavery
Speaker 1: is still a thing today. Everybody wants to go on
Speaker 1: and on about the Antebellum South without looking at Mauritania
Speaker 1: and a Treya right now in the world that are
Speaker 1: still doing open air slavery. Libya still doing it, but
Speaker 1: that's okay because that's a cultural thing. Meanwhile, in the
Speaker 1: Antebellum South, when it was a cultural thing, everybody looks
Speaker 1: at them like they were abhorrent. But these other people,
Speaker 1: it's okay because that's their religious culture. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It makes no sense to me. I don't
Speaker 1: agree with slavery, regardless of if it's a coloring, religious thing,
Speaker 1: a war trophy thing, it's just it's not good for
Speaker 1: a civilization to move forward in our modern day. We
Speaker 1: shouldn't do it. Human slavery is the worst crime I
Speaker 1: could think of. So how about we just yet eradicated what.
Speaker 2: Was the dickhead's name that tried to come on the
Speaker 2: cult and say that, oh, no, slavery should be.
Speaker 1: Timothy. Now, his thing was he was talking about indentsured servitude.
Speaker 1: If somebody wants to sell themselves into endingsured servitude to
Speaker 1: pay off a debt, he was all for that, and like, cool.
Speaker 1: If a grown adult is in debt to such a
Speaker 1: level that they need to sell so many years of
Speaker 1: their life to some sort of a credit union or
Speaker 1: something to pay off their debt, that is a dumb thing,
Speaker 1: and they're an adult. But chattel slavery, which is you know,
Speaker 1: straight up stealing somebody and selling them on the open market,
Speaker 1: human trafficking, and shit, No, I'm really good if we
Speaker 1: eradicate all of that. To be honest with.
Speaker 2: You, agreed, But you do know that majority majority of like,
Speaker 2: every race on the planet has been slaves, the majority
Speaker 2: of like, and to just talk about the most recent
Speaker 2: quote unquote the Transatlantic.
Speaker 4: Slave trade.
Speaker 2: Everyone talks about, oh that this happened, but no one
Speaker 2: ever actually really wants to talk about that. It was
Speaker 2: the more powerful African tribes that would go and ray
Speaker 2: the other lesser tribes, steal them and take their women
Speaker 2: and children and men and sell them off. Like what
Speaker 2: it was one of the African like kings. I can't
Speaker 2: think of his name, Oh yeah, Manson Musa. He made majority,
Speaker 2: like his entire empowers built off of slave trade.
Speaker 1: It was built off of the salt mines, on the
Speaker 1: gold mines. But the problem is if you look at
Speaker 1: how these minerals were mined in that day and age
Speaker 1: of Africa, it was slave mining. It was by hand.
Speaker 2: So also, do you think I'm gonna get I'm gonna
Speaker 2: give you a little today of the Roman Empire about
Speaker 2: the eighteen hundred or to today, which one do you
Speaker 2: think has the most slaves day today? We have more
Speaker 2: slaves today's than the height of the Roman Empire and
Speaker 2: over half.
Speaker 1: Now that being said, let's keep it fair. Let's keep
Speaker 1: it fair. We have a larger population than the Roman
Speaker 1: Empire did, so like we have to keep it in
Speaker 1: proper scope. But even with that being said, just because
Speaker 1: slavery has been outlawed in the vast majority of the
Speaker 1: world doesn't mean that there's still not a black market
Speaker 1: where this goes down.
Speaker 2: You know, there's open air slave markets over in the
Speaker 2: Middle East right now. I've seen I have seen videos
Speaker 2: of what like they of men of Sub Saharan Africans
Speaker 2: open up bags of other Sub Saharan Africans and sending
Speaker 2: them yep and whipping them with like bamboo weeds. Does
Speaker 2: They're trying, They're saying no, stop, and they still beat
Speaker 2: the ship out of them.
Speaker 1: I agree this is going on, but somehow we need
Speaker 1: to be more focused on a country that pissed off
Speaker 1: our president rather than eradicating the true evil from this world.
Speaker 1: But that's the problem. If America goes on that kind
Speaker 1: of a rampage and becomes the world police, then we
Speaker 1: are just sticking our nose where it doesn't belong. And
Speaker 1: then on the other side, if we don't do anything
Speaker 1: and let that country who's doing this handle their own problems,
Speaker 1: America is weak for not doing what needs to be done.
Speaker 1: We're in a win situation. It's the same thing with
Speaker 1: the Erica Kirk right if she would have Noma were
Speaker 1: getting way off.
Speaker 2: The bitch that said that that no one could ever
Speaker 2: replace Charlie Kirk, But yeah, she could see how jd
Speaker 2: Vance could.
Speaker 1: We could talk about the uh, the Erica Kirk situation
Speaker 1: with the debate that just went down, which actually I
Speaker 1: figured we were going to get to that point later on.
Speaker 1: But we still need to read the rest of this
Speaker 1: wrap this article. But anyway, Yeah, well we'll get to it.
Speaker 1: We'll get to all of that. I didn't pull anything
Speaker 1: up with it because honestly, I wanted to just kind
Speaker 1: of hear what y'all's opinion was. As far as the
Speaker 1: Candae Owans Andrew you know, debate that went down. I
Speaker 1: have my own opinions about who won, quote unquote, and
Speaker 1: I use those are load bearing quotes, by the way,
Speaker 1: because I don't personally think there really was much of
Speaker 1: a winner. I have to give it to one party
Speaker 1: out of a technicality, but that's about it. Basically, I
Speaker 1: think that entire situation was a big pissing match for
Speaker 1: no reason. Nobody like trumped the other one by any means.
Speaker 1: But we'll get to that in a minute. I still
Speaker 1: want to read about Missus Overton here so. She previously
Speaker 1: served as vice chair and chief of Policy over the
Speaker 1: America First Policy Institute, a conservative think tank. While there,
Speaker 1: Overton celebrated the Supreme Court's twenty twenty two decision that
Speaker 1: overturned Roe v. Wade and with it a national rised
Speaker 1: right to abortion. The ruling quote will allow Americans to
Speaker 1: reevaluate the value of the potential of every baby in
Speaker 1: the womb and choose life through a democratic process. She
Speaker 1: said that in a statement at the time. In a
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four op ed in Newsweek, Overton criticized Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris rightfully so because she refused to condemn late term abortion,
Speaker 1: adding that Democrats won't even define what a woman is.
Speaker 1: Both of those statements are very true. Just to real clear,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm very pro Overton bindy means, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Kamala was very cool with like eight and a half
Speaker 1: month abortions and also was a part of the party
Speaker 1: that still cannot define what is a woman because for
Speaker 1: some reason, having a vagina does not make you a
Speaker 1: woman in the liberal mindset. It's mind blowing to me personally.
Speaker 1: I don't understand it, but whatever, I guess, feelings trump
Speaker 1: truth when it comes to certain groups. You do with
Speaker 1: that information which you want. The FDA is conducting a
Speaker 1: safety review of abortion of the abortion pill mif pristone.
Speaker 1: If I mispronounced it, there you go. I don't want
Speaker 1: to look into this because I think it's all important,
Speaker 1: but has not yet issued a report. Republicans have been
Speaker 1: pushing a reverse to Biden error rule that allows mif
Speaker 1: pristone to be mailed and dispensed via telehealth, not just
Speaker 1: in person. Yup. The agency is also in the mix
Speaker 1: as the Trump administration seeks to make changes to the
Speaker 1: nation's vaccine policies. Good As a White House advisor, over
Speaker 1: Ten participated in Trump's signing last week of an executive
Speaker 1: order aimed at reducing the number of standard childhood vaccines
Speaker 1: from eighteen to eleven. Again, I find nothing wrong with this.
Speaker 1: I'm liking everything I'm hearing thus far. In remarks at
Speaker 1: the Oval Office event, Overton criticized blue states that work
Speaker 1: with outside entities like the American Academy of Pediatrics and
Speaker 1: recommend that she considered outdated shot recommendations or what she
Speaker 1: considered rather, so you're saying, especially the states that are
Speaker 1: willing take a look at the scientific assessment. These are
Speaker 1: the gold standard childhood vaccine recommendations, and you should put
Speaker 1: this into your state law so that when parents go
Speaker 1: to enroll their kids in school, they do not have
Speaker 1: to meet some requirement for vaccines that are no longer
Speaker 1: recommended for all children. Again, I'm liking this. According to
Speaker 1: Overton's profile on the America First Policy Institute website, she
Speaker 1: is Board certified in Public Health and General Preventative men Medicine,
Speaker 1: which was a general surgery resident at Johns Hopkins University
Speaker 1: School of Medicine. Very impressive, and completed medical school at
Speaker 1: the University of New Mexico School of Medicine. Again, I
Speaker 1: don't find much about her that I dislike as of
Speaker 1: this moment. It's very subject to change, very subject to change.
Speaker 1: I again didn't know anything about this woman just a
Speaker 1: few hours ago. So with that being said, I am
Speaker 1: very hopeful for this step forward. We'll see what she
Speaker 1: does or will she just capitulate to whatever donning T says.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but let's learn about her a little
Speaker 1: bit more together here. So want to know about doctor
Speaker 1: Heidi Overton, Trump's pick to lead the FDA.
Speaker 5: President Trump has tapped one of his top White House
Speaker 5: health policy AIDS, doctor Heidi Overton, to lead the Food
Speaker 5: and Drug Administration. Overton has been a strong supporter of
Speaker 5: the President's health agenda, including efforts to overhaul the childhood
Speaker 5: vaccine schedule and separate the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine
Speaker 5: to individual shots, changes that have drawn sharp criticism from
Speaker 5: medical experts. She has also advocated tighter restrictions on the
Speaker 5: abortion drug myth of pristone. Her nomination comes at a
Speaker 5: consequential moment for the FDA, as the administration challenges long
Speaker 5: standing vaccine policy and the agency confronts broader questions about
Speaker 5: the safety of the nation's food supply, including food borne
Speaker 5: illness outbreaks and recalls. We're joined now by Lauren Gardner,
Speaker 5: who covers the FDA for Politico. Thanks for being with.
Speaker 6: Us, Thanks for having me so based on.
Speaker 5: Your reporting, what stands out about Heidi Overton's background and
Speaker 5: President Trump's decision to nominator.
Speaker 7: Well, she's a doctor, which in the recent history of
Speaker 7: the past few decades of FDA commissioners, nearly all of
Speaker 7: them have been medical doctors. She's double board certified in
Speaker 7: public health and in general provative medicine. She also hails
Speaker 7: from Johns Hopkins. She has an advanced degree from there
Speaker 7: in clinical investigation, so much like her her predecessor, Martin Carey,
Speaker 7: who was Commissioner up until a few months ago. But
Speaker 7: also really notable that she is a top policy aid
Speaker 7: to the president. You know, She's got a close working
Speaker 7: relationship with him. She was a fellow at the White
Speaker 7: House during President Trump's first term, so she is very
Speaker 7: plugged in on all of the political constituencies that this
Speaker 7: administration is juggling right now, particularly in the public health world.
Speaker 7: So you know, I think it's really notable that she
Speaker 7: really has that kind of political operator background for an
Speaker 7: agency that historically has tried to really toe the line
Speaker 7: and present itself as an independent decision maker.
Speaker 5: And what Moore is known about her views on vaccine
Speaker 5: policy and where, if anywhere, has she departed from the
Speaker 5: scientific consensus.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she was president at the signing ceremony last week
Speaker 7: for the President's executive order on the childhod vaccine schedule
Speaker 7: that which you mentioned, you know, advocating for essentially a
Speaker 7: more slim down and spaced out version of the current schedule.
Speaker 7: This is you know, not something that we've seen a
Speaker 7: lot of folks who have been kind of talked about
Speaker 7: in the FDA sphere really kind of publicly weighing in on.
Speaker 7: And she definitely spoke a little bit more about that
Speaker 7: and her vision for working with states on some of
Speaker 7: these issues last week. And I think a lot of
Speaker 7: folks who are, you know, close watchers of the agency,
Speaker 7: whether they be lobbyists and pharma companies or you know,
Speaker 7: just public health advocates, are also asking themselves that question
Speaker 7: and are really curious to hear what more she has
Speaker 7: to say once she ends up on Capitol Hill, assuming
Speaker 7: that Senator Bill Cassidy's schedules of confirmation hearing for her
Speaker 7: this fall, do you hear what she has to say
Speaker 7: about some of these broader vaccine questions that have really
Speaker 7: come to the fore under a Secretary Robert F. Kennedy
Speaker 7: Junior's leadership at AGA.
Speaker 5: And if confirmed, she would take over an FDA that
Speaker 5: has lost more than three thousand employees given the administration's cuts,
Speaker 5: and one area of particular concern is food safety. Looking
Speaker 5: at data from the FDA and CDC, there have been
Speaker 5: about ten thousand, five hundred cases of food borne illness
Speaker 5: associated with outbreaks this year, and that is seven times
Speaker 5: higher than the annual average between twenty twenty one and
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: What explains that?
Speaker 5: What explains what we're seeing?
Speaker 7: That's a great question, you know. And specifically CYCLOSPA, the
Speaker 7: one that you know we're all really hearing about right now,
Speaker 7: that does annually kind of peak during summer months, which
Speaker 7: the administration has said as much. But like you said,
Speaker 7: this is a much higher number of cases that we're
Speaker 7: seeing now compared to years past. You know, FDA and USDA,
Speaker 7: the Department of Agriculture obviously both play a role to
Speaker 7: some degree in overseeing the safety of the food supply.
Speaker 7: But this isn't an air that doctor Overton is particularly
Speaker 7: well known for food safety.
Speaker 1: Real quick, I just want to make a mention. So
Speaker 1: the reporter asks what seems to be the issue with
Speaker 1: all the food born pathogens. The likely answer would be, well,
Speaker 1: you know, unsafe practices within the food processing facilities. That
Speaker 1: seems like a very one plus one equals two answer
Speaker 1: to me. I don't know. And you know, the FDA
Speaker 1: has a hand in that, you mean, the hand in
Speaker 1: that I used to work at a food grave facility
Speaker 1: the FDA, we weren't worried about OSHA. We were worried
Speaker 1: about the FDA audits or one of the buyer's audits.
Speaker 1: When they send somebody through to make sure everything's going well.
Speaker 1: What do you mean it plays a hand that is
Speaker 1: the biggest hand. But all right, let's keep listening to
Speaker 1: this woman.
Speaker 7: I haven't found any record of her talking about this
Speaker 7: specific issue, But I do you think given the sheer
Speaker 7: number of cases that we're seeing, and the fact that
Speaker 7: it's affected so many states and has really impacted people's
Speaker 7: you know, eating habits and consumers purchasing decisions in the
Speaker 7: last couple of months, I imagine it's going to be
Speaker 7: a hot topic of conversation as she continues to move
Speaker 7: through the confirmation process.
Speaker 1: Okay, real quick again, No, doctor Overton isn't well versed
Speaker 1: with the food industry because she is a medical doctor. No,
Speaker 1: she's not. She probably hasn't spent a whole hell of
Speaker 1: a lot of time in a food manufacturing facility, but
Speaker 1: she will now I'm pretty confident of that. That being said,
Speaker 1: even still, there's so many cases, y'all. We have three
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty million Americans living in this country right now. Legally,
Speaker 1: of course, ten thousand, five hundred have experienced something. Y'all
Speaker 1: want to do the math on that. What is let's
Speaker 1: even be generous and say it's actually closer, like twenty
Speaker 1: thousand millions all said and done, twenty thousand out of
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty million, and then let's readdress how
Speaker 1: much of a crisis we are currently finding ourselves in.
Speaker 1: It's the same conversation whenever you hear, oh, there was
Speaker 1: a shooting, well, four people were shot. It's a mass shooting.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a crazy that's crazy work. Four people,
Speaker 1: and we're calling it a massive thing, a mass shooting,
Speaker 1: a mass casualty. But whatever the case. Like, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: the language that is being used is inflammatory, and that's
Speaker 1: by design.
Speaker 5: Moving forward, their functions, the FDA is having difficulty carrying
Speaker 5: out right now because they simply don't have enough people.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there are some functions within the agency that have had,
Speaker 7: you know, kind of long standing issues with either having
Speaker 7: enough folks or have enough resources really to be able
Speaker 7: to carry out carry out theirs, you know, whether it
Speaker 7: be inspections of food and drug facilities or just the
Speaker 7: you know, people who are reviewing applications for different medical
Speaker 7: products that have to be go through agency review to
Speaker 7: get on shelves of stores in the US. There has
Speaker 7: been a lot of attrition and uh, you know, this
Speaker 7: is going to be a major issue for doctor Overton
Speaker 7: should she be confirmed as commissioner. And I'm sure this
Speaker 7: is something senators are going to want to hear a
Speaker 7: plan from her about in terms of, you know, how
Speaker 7: how do you attract people to an agency that has
Speaker 7: gone through so much turmoil in the in the recent past.
Speaker 1: Lauren Gardner, they gave that was a non answer. That
Speaker 1: was a non answer. Yeah, you know, they don't have
Speaker 1: enough people to go around and hopefully she can find
Speaker 1: a solution and they're going to ask her about a solution.
Speaker 1: But like, that's definitely an issue. Great, great answer. Great,
Speaker 1: that that is prime reporting right there. My goodness, how
Speaker 1: how can we have known what was going to happen
Speaker 1: when out that statement being made. I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and check the chat real quick. Good god, we have
Speaker 1: forty one chats that have been left since I looked
Speaker 1: last must speak, Hey I robots maybe honestly, I think
Speaker 1: half of them just didn't get enough hugs. From mommy
Speaker 1: and Daddy. I believe that absolutely. Uh Let's see, it's
Speaker 1: said when someone says something stupid like Latin X, then
Speaker 1: like the language itself has genders masculine, feminine, singular, and plural.
Speaker 1: Latin dunn't, but a lot of languages do. Royce just
Speaker 1: throwing it out, Well, you're your language does.
Speaker 8: No, You're right.
Speaker 9: I mean Sam was talking about U Star Boards application
Speaker 9: with genders, right, So like the comment that I said,
Speaker 9: it was so regardless of the language.
Speaker 10: So you're so Hebrew definitely has gender's national and plural, neutral,
Speaker 10: et cetera.
Speaker 8: I mean what I'm not like, build so Spanish. That's
Speaker 8: what I meant by by they're either Latino or Latina
Speaker 8: And people say, oh, it's the person who's a LATINX.
Speaker 8: What the suck you're talking about?
Speaker 11: Like literally the entire language actually was made four genders,
Speaker 11: Like there is a masculine thing and it's not a
Speaker 11: thing whether it's a now adjective or whatever.
Speaker 8: Come on, it should not be that.
Speaker 12: No.
Speaker 1: I agree. I just realized I was way like down
Speaker 1: in the chat. I didn't realize that so much was listed,
Speaker 1: So I just jumped in at the middle here. So
Speaker 1: I'm going back to the top here. Everybody's talking about
Speaker 1: different you know, alcohol and all that. Which. Speaking of
Speaker 1: Hayden Panasiera just died. I don't have anything pulled up
Speaker 1: on her. But now see, the first time I heard
Speaker 1: about this, it seemed like an accidental OD. Now it
Speaker 1: is right after she brought up the fact that she
Speaker 1: was essentially trafficked to a higher level Hollywood person for
Speaker 1: you know, to take advantage of her, and she said no,
Speaker 1: she actually brought this up on the J. Shetty podcast,
Speaker 1: and like a week or two later, she's dead. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a connection there or not. Personally,
Speaker 1: I believe there is, but maybe that might be more
Speaker 1: to it. But anyway, anyway, let's see, Sam says, I've
Speaker 1: been over one hundred and twenty in the Kia. The
Speaker 1: front end felt like it was lifting up. Oh, we're
Speaker 1: talking about motorcycles. Hell yo, hell ya, sorry, y'all, I'm
Speaker 1: not at the house. All right, moving forward here, three
Speaker 1: years sober for me the first man, Good for you, man,
Speaker 1: good for you. We're talking about Royce's bike, which is phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Starbucks application has pronouns zerr they zim. Is that just
Speaker 1: a gay premium. Yeah. Yeah. To answer your question, Sam
Speaker 1: is saying, I'm uh, I identify as zerz. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's basically like gay plus. It's like Disney plus Amazon
Speaker 1: plus Paramount plus. It's it's just gay with extra steps.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I would argue more of
Speaker 1: a possibility and more of a probability of pedophilia being
Speaker 1: thrown in the mix. I'm just throwing in. I don't
Speaker 1: most of the gays and lesbians that I know have
Speaker 1: no interest in children whatsoever. The trans and the alphabet people,
Speaker 1: the LGBTQ, ELEMENTO P two, I a hashtag, star plus
Speaker 1: plus ten squared and whatever. Yeah, they probably into kids. Man,
Speaker 1: I think you just tried.
Speaker 2: To summon the deanon. But no, sorry mind, I would
Speaker 2: think connections trash. So, just for the record, I don't
Speaker 2: have a k I A. I have a key of
Speaker 2: Forte that have I got over one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: miles and that's because of Fleet Bud was playing. So
Speaker 2: I had that and that was on the way to
Speaker 2: bug Grove. That's why I was late, if you remember, Jacob.
Speaker 1: Mm absolutely fun times, fun times, so fun. All right,
Speaker 1: moving on with so chat here Tony says Israel and
Speaker 1: Palestine are worse than apartheid and apartheid South Africa. The
Speaker 1: whites did not drop bombs on the Bantustans, they didn't
Speaker 1: tear up their roads. Whites would love it if blacks
Speaker 1: would build and maintain their own infrastructure. Palestinians do and
Speaker 1: the Israelis destroy it. Okay, Yeah, the whites may not
Speaker 1: have bombed the black South Africans, but the black South
Speaker 1: Africans are going out of the way to try to
Speaker 1: do a genocide on the white South Africans right now.
Speaker 1: And apartheid was horrible, absolutely correct, But yeah, to your point,
Speaker 1: there wasn't like mass killings in apartheid South Africa. Now
Speaker 1: there are, and you're right. Also, the black South Africans
Speaker 1: are not doing anything to build infrastructure. If anything, they're
Speaker 1: destroying infrastructure that's already there. To your point, the Palestinians do,
Speaker 1: They do build their own infrastructure there are trying to
Speaker 1: be their own independent thing. But also now forget that
Speaker 1: a lot of the attacks at Israel has faced and
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about since the Iran situation or since
Speaker 1: the the October seventh been backtracking that over the last decade.
Speaker 1: Most of the you know, bombs that have been dropped
Speaker 1: on Israel in the past a decade have come from Palestine.
Speaker 1: That's not that's not a crazy hot take. What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts, Well, yeah.
Speaker 13: It's been. They had a bunch of cheap rockets, the Palestinians,
Speaker 13: and I think they're out now. After October seventh, Gaza
Speaker 13: was launching everything they had at Israel and they ran
Speaker 13: out in like a week, right, and well the other direction,
Speaker 13: it's just it's just obvious Israel wants them out. Yeah,
Speaker 13: and they there's a self selection in the population. The
Speaker 13: ones who could already get out have already gotten out.
Speaker 13: The ones staying there now are the most resistant, the
Speaker 13: most likely to fight. So it's a population selection, and
Speaker 13: I think the Palestinians are probably gonna still be there
Speaker 13: for another couple of decades.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think the Palestinians are gonna go anywhere
Speaker 1: anytime soon. To be honest with you, Although Netanyahu is
Speaker 1: trying to start his whole eradication campaign, I feel like
Speaker 1: the world, the court of public opinion, if you will,
Speaker 1: is not going to actually allow that to happen, especially
Speaker 1: with how many people are starting to turn from Israel.
Speaker 1: For the longest American Zeitgeist, Republican Democrat, whatever was to
Speaker 1: say that Israel and America are locked in for life. Man,
Speaker 1: I didn't think that we would see it happen in
Speaker 1: two years time. But in two years we went as
Speaker 1: a nation as the cultural zeite guys from being like yeah,
Speaker 1: Israel's cool to like, yo, fuck Israel and like that
Speaker 1: happens so fast, and they did everything they could throw
Speaker 1: gasoline on that fire. It's actually kind of impressive to
Speaker 1: sit back and look at.
Speaker 13: Uh huh, absolutely and general rationally, the old people still
Speaker 13: support them all the way. It's people under forty who
Speaker 13: have turned pretty hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an absolute fact. Say, am I see you
Speaker 1: chomping at the bit dog?
Speaker 2: What you got so rebuttal If the Jews, the vampires Israelis,
Speaker 2: the sons of Abraham really wanted to kill the sons
Speaker 2: of Muhammed, right, if they were so genocidal, like everyone cames,
Speaker 2: why would they be throwing out leaflet saying hey leave
Speaker 2: or leave.
Speaker 1: Were about to spore men?
Speaker 2: And if they were so, if they were genocidal, they
Speaker 2: would just go through house through through house street by street,
Speaker 2: kill every man, woman, child and be done with it
Speaker 2: by wiping out the threat at the root. Now, to
Speaker 2: say the or the israels trustworthy, I don't think we
Speaker 2: should trust any country that is not our own. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we might work with them, but make sure that, hey,
Speaker 2: while they are doing this, we also have a gun
Speaker 2: pointed at them, Like you just think, some motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Oh what I would agree with that.
Speaker 2: I mean the same time, the sons of Abraham will
Speaker 2: always be they will always kill each other. When one
Speaker 2: brother is up, the other brothers down. And I look,
Speaker 2: I'm not even trying to be a decade when I
Speaker 2: say this. Y'ah, this shit has been happening for that
Speaker 2: lack the last three thousand years.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, But I mean it's the same conversation. It's
Speaker 1: the same conversation that the Native Americans have with white America. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: for instance, and this is just an example. There are
Speaker 1: a ton that I could pull from, but let's just
Speaker 1: go here, the Sioux versus the Lakota. All right. The
Speaker 1: conversation that we always have with certain political leanings left,
Speaker 1: I'll just say left, is that whenever they give uspeech,
Speaker 1: they start off with the land acknowledgment. Right, They want
Speaker 1: to give like a shout out to the people who
Speaker 1: whose land they currently are on, and then they want
Speaker 1: to talk about like the public school system or whatever
Speaker 1: the case is. But they got to give that land acknowledgement.
Speaker 1: And they always come back to this fact that, like
Speaker 1: the Native Americans, had no concept of land ownership, and
Speaker 1: that's very inaccurate. The Sioux, the tribe that we would
Speaker 1: call the Sioux, actually came from Maine like two hundred
Speaker 1: years before white people ever landed on North America. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that being said, they made their way and started
Speaker 1: warring with the Lakota. As a matter of fact, the
Speaker 1: only reason why they are called the Sioux is because
Speaker 1: the first white dude to make their way over there
Speaker 1: asked his interpreter, who was speaking to a Lakota, who
Speaker 1: those people are, and that dude said, Oh, they're the Sioux.
Speaker 1: Sue is a Lakota word for enemy. That's not their
Speaker 1: actual name. The tribe themselves never called themselves Sioux. That's
Speaker 1: a Lakota word for these people. So this tribe went
Speaker 1: across the continent and took over land from another tribe.
Speaker 1: So again, this whole conquest conversation predates white people and
Speaker 1: whatever else you want to think of as far as
Speaker 1: imperialism is concerned. So I'm with you on this now.
Speaker 1: If you already to go to Palestine and Israel, if
Speaker 1: you take a DNA sample from anyone from Palestine, you
Speaker 1: will find Jordanium blood, you will find Syrian blood, you
Speaker 1: will find Egyptian blood. Because, believe it or not, there
Speaker 1: is no such thing as Palestinian heritage. This nation didn't
Speaker 1: exist before Rome, and Rome only gave it that moniker
Speaker 1: because they didn't want to hear the word Judea ever
Speaker 1: again after the Second Revolution. So to your point, Palestinians
Speaker 1: are not a race, that is a people that inhabit
Speaker 1: a land that is not theirs. Now they claim that
Speaker 1: it was theirs, all right, dope. That's how human existence works.
Speaker 1: If you stake your claim on land and you defend
Speaker 1: that land, sounds like it's your fucking land. If somebody
Speaker 1: comes and takes that land from you and you're unable
Speaker 1: to get it back, sounds like it's not your land anymore.
Speaker 1: Because possession is nine tenths of the law when it
Speaker 1: comes to the international community and just reality as a whole.
Speaker 1: So that being said, if you take Israeli blood, and
Speaker 1: you do a blood test on them, you'll find actual
Speaker 1: Jewish lineage that dates back thousands of years. And that's
Speaker 1: not a one hundred percent situation. I understand it's very
Speaker 1: case by case, but yeah, listen, I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: Palestinians need to be eradicated by any means. These people
Speaker 1: have been there for generations. I do believe there has
Speaker 1: to be a way to have a two party system.
Speaker 1: There has to be a two state solution, if you will. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the Palestinians don't want a two state solution. The Israelis
Speaker 1: don't want a two state solution, regardless of whatever talking
Speaker 1: he happens to be on the mic saying that they do.
Speaker 1: When you get to the leader of each of these states,
Speaker 1: neither of them want to concede an inch of land.
Speaker 1: So it's just gonna be one of these things that
Speaker 1: they're gonna duke it out into one side finally capitulates.
Speaker 1: Neither of them have in quite some time. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen anytime soon. But this is just
Speaker 1: where we're at with it. It's not pretty for anybody,
Speaker 1: So it sounds like it's a them problem, not a
Speaker 1: US problem at least that's how I see it, Sam,
Speaker 1: go ahead, uh, two parts.
Speaker 2: Also speaking about the natives, the northern Paiu, they went over,
Speaker 2: they migrated from the east to the western sorry to Nevada.
Speaker 2: They actually have a legend of them committing a genocide
Speaker 2: against the the the red haired tribe of cannibals that
Speaker 2: are the giants of Lovelock Cave, like their traditions, so
Speaker 2: that how they actually killed an entire tribe of man eaters.
Speaker 1: I mean even with the Aztecs. The Aztecs, the Aztecs
Speaker 1: subjugated every tribal group that was around them. They would
Speaker 1: launch the Flower Wars once a year.
Speaker 2: But the second part of how you were talking about
Speaker 2: over in the sandbox, the reason why, the reason why
Speaker 2: the Romans named that area Palestine was really a rub
Speaker 2: towards the Jews and one like fuck you. And it's
Speaker 2: most they named it Palestine after the Philistines. Yes, also
Speaker 2: in Arabic they don't have the peace, so there's a
Speaker 2: in Palestinian. No, your own language doesn't even say Palestine,
Speaker 2: so you're an archaic alaire.
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, if that's the case, and there's no
Speaker 1: j in the Hebrew language, so to call them Jews
Speaker 1: as also you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna break down somethings.
Speaker 2: That they call themselves the Jews because they followed Judaism.
Speaker 10: But but that I say, vampires, Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1: I see Royce and Tony both on muted. I know
Speaker 1: both you are gonna want to weigh in on this one.
Speaker 1: Go for it.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Palestine, the name goes back at least as far
Speaker 13: as Herodotus, which is about four hundred and sixty BC,
Speaker 13: which is before any of the Romans were going there,
Speaker 13: and it's referring to the small area that's called Gaza
Speaker 13: now that was Philistia, and Palestine being used as a
Speaker 13: label for the whole place. It's very arbitrary. The place
Speaker 13: has had a whole lot of different names, a whole
Speaker 13: lot of different place names within it. And I don't
Speaker 13: think blood has nationality, but you can correlate it to geography.
Speaker 13: So the ancient tombs throughout what is now modern day Israel.
Speaker 13: DNA can be taken from that, and modern Palestinians do
Speaker 13: have a lot in common with d N if with
Speaker 13: that DNA slightly more than modern day Jews do.
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, debate. We're talking ancient burial sites. You're
Speaker 1: saying that the Palestinians have closer blood ties to the
Speaker 1: ancient burial sites found and just throwing out a random city,
Speaker 1: let's say Nazareth. You're saying that the Palestinians have closer
Speaker 1: blood ties to the ancient burials in Nazareth than the
Speaker 1: Jews do.
Speaker 13: Yes, that is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I would love to see the facts on that one,
Speaker 1: if you have any kind of studies, and this doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be on this episode, this could be later
Speaker 1: on whatever. I would love to see the studies that
Speaker 1: actually state that.
Speaker 13: Okay, yeah, I'll find something.
Speaker 1: Absolutely fuck yeah, Royce, I see you on Muta. Do
Speaker 1: you want to weigh in on this one as well?
Speaker 1: Being our resident Jewish correspondent? Yes, Ish, Yes, that's the
Speaker 1: most Jewish fucking answer I could ever hope for him.
Speaker 10: For you, good God, I mean, there's there's there yeah,
Speaker 10: uh no, there is almost no yes or no.
Speaker 8: It's always sure something.
Speaker 10: It was always gonna really say so with this whole thing,
Speaker 10: there is the can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah you kind of cut out, but I hear it now.
Speaker 8: Sorry, it's true.
Speaker 10: While it's true that there were other nations that were
Speaker 10: a part of the Canaanite region, I mean the israel
Speaker 10: the Israelites conquered it. I mean just like America, and
Speaker 10: like the Native Americans. Native Americans have their own, well
Speaker 10: little portions here and there with their reservations, but America
Speaker 10: still owns America. One could argue that that could be
Speaker 10: just a way. Now does he the best way to
Speaker 10: do it as far as israel Is concerns. But as
Speaker 10: far as the argument of who was there first, it
Speaker 10: doesn't matter who was there first.
Speaker 8: It really just mattered at the end of the day,
Speaker 8: who was the one who conquered it at the end
Speaker 8: of the day.
Speaker 1: Right, And I understand that's not like a fair conversation.
Speaker 1: I understand it's not fun to say, like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: too bad, so sad, that's life. But unfortunately that's the
Speaker 1: way that it's gone the entirety of human history, and
Speaker 1: people having like virtue signaling today is not going to
Speaker 1: change the way that humans have been human ing for forever.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's the same conversation to say that, like
Speaker 1: China has imposed its way into Tibet, they're trying to
Speaker 1: impose their way into Taiwan. If China was to take
Speaker 1: Taiwan and be able to defend it from outside for
Speaker 1: or from the Taiwanese people saying that they this is
Speaker 1: not their land. If China is able to defend that,
Speaker 1: it sounds like it's China's island now. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know, but it's sure the fuck sounds like that
Speaker 1: to me, the same way that if Napoleon would have
Speaker 1: successfully taken over all of Europe and defended it, sounds
Speaker 1: like Europe is owned by France now, or Nazi Germany
Speaker 1: over Europe and Russia. You see what I'm saying here,
Speaker 1: unless an outside force comes back and says, nah, get
Speaker 1: back to where you belong, or if the local indigenous
Speaker 1: population is able to win the fuck the fight, the
Speaker 1: good fight, and win their their land and say no,
Speaker 1: you can't cross this line because we said so. Unless
Speaker 1: that's the case, I'm sorry. A piece of paper is
Speaker 1: only as far as it only goes as far as
Speaker 1: the piece of paper can be thrown. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm looking at this way too literally. Tony su
Speaker 1: unmuted it again. Please go ahead?
Speaker 13: Oh well, Sam asked why don't the Israel at least
Speaker 13: just do it way faster. And I don't no perfect
Speaker 13: answer to this, but I think they have a much
Speaker 13: longer time preference and time horizon than most of US
Speaker 13: Americans do. If anything, they're kind of like the Chinese
Speaker 13: and the Chinese they're not going to take over Taiwan immediately.
Speaker 13: They're going to wait a long time. And I think
Speaker 13: the perception among Jews is they have a much longer
Speaker 13: view of history than most of the rest of us do.
Speaker 13: They think of themselves as part of a three thousand
Speaker 13: year long, you know, train of events instead of just
Speaker 13: you know, whatever's going on this generation. And there is
Speaker 13: a lot of cost of doing it too fast, and
Speaker 13: they do care about pr internationally, so you know, vaguely,
Speaker 13: that's why they're not just doing it as fast as
Speaker 13: humanly possible. So go ahead stamp.
Speaker 1: Sorry, no, no, no, I agree with you, man. They can't
Speaker 1: just come in and eradicate the Palestinians, because, like you know,
Speaker 1: genocide is never going to be a hot topic. No,
Speaker 1: it's never going to go over well in the in
Speaker 1: the eyes of the international communities.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up the term genocide. Explain to
Speaker 2: me something.
Speaker 8: Why is it that.
Speaker 2: You're cutting out the attacks loop A group.
Speaker 1: You're there, I sound you gotta start over there, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're cutting out like crazy. The last thing I heard
Speaker 1: was I'm glad you brought the term genocide something something
Speaker 1: something Group A. So can you hear me now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead and start op. No, well all right then,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Sam, I don't know what you were
Speaker 1: trying to get at there, but you know, if you
Speaker 1: if you are able to get somewhere, we have better service.
Speaker 1: Brother Bio means I would love to hear you waiting
Speaker 1: on this one. What about now? I see you moving?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't MINEO known business Group B A tax
Speaker 2: group A. Group B says we're going to kill you.
Speaker 2: All our religious text says to kill you. That the
Speaker 2: trees and the rocks will tell you where you where
Speaker 2: you are hiding, and we're going to kill you.
Speaker 1: So it says our.
Speaker 2: Profit Group A comes back bout crazy now. Yet more
Speaker 2: people alive today in Group B than there was at
Speaker 2: the beginning of a concert.
Speaker 1: You cut out, But I think I understand your.
Speaker 2: Because I'm at a shitty uh signal spot.
Speaker 1: And okay, fair enough fair enough. Essentially, what you're saying
Speaker 1: is you got Group A, Group B. Group A attax
Speaker 1: Group B, and because religious text says so, Group B says, oh, no,
Speaker 1: you're genociding. But somehow there's more in Group B population
Speaker 1: wise now than there was when the initial conflict started.
Speaker 1: I think that was your overall point. And no, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that there's a genocide against the Palestinians right now.
Speaker 1: A lot of people would say.
Speaker 2: So, which there isn't that there is not.
Speaker 1: That's in what way there's a genocide?
Speaker 2: Why would we hear what Group B says when they're
Speaker 2: the one who has been saying, oh, we should kill
Speaker 2: off all of Group we should kill off all the
Speaker 2: Jews and death to America. But yet they start the war,
Speaker 2: they want the war. But yet when they get their
Speaker 2: shit not the fuck out, they will oh, no, you're
Speaker 2: genociding us. That's not fair, that's not great. Well maybe
Speaker 2: you should have stayed the fuck home, don't blow shit up,
Speaker 2: and you should have mine your own fucking business. You
Speaker 2: we put the fuck you, so you want this war now,
Speaker 2: time to fucking die.
Speaker 1: Fair enough. However, let's keep in mind that Palestine wouldn't
Speaker 1: have attacked Israel if it wasn't for Net and Yahoo
Speaker 1: giving them the funds of resource to do so. But
Speaker 1: hold on, Tony, you believe that there is a Palestinian
Speaker 1: genocide going on right now? I would love to hear why,
Speaker 1: because to Sam's point, Palestine and the Palestinian people, what's
Speaker 1: the current death toll? Just as an example. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you would like have that number off top
Speaker 1: of your head or whatever, but I have a weird
Speaker 1: feeling that there's probably a lot less death there than
Speaker 1: there is, for instance, in the Ukraine Russia conversation.
Speaker 13: Okay, well, the estimates for guys that vary between about
Speaker 13: seventy thousand and six hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 13: Israel at first was denying that it was ever as
Speaker 13: high as seventy thousand, but then about a year ago
Speaker 13: they said, that's actually a pretty good estimate. The six
Speaker 13: hundred thousand comes from a few people talking to you
Speaker 13: and special Wherepper tour Francesca Albanesa, and I think it's
Speaker 13: probably way higher than seventy thousand because you just look
Speaker 13: at the damn satellite photos and all the buildings, almost
Speaker 13: all the buildings are gone, and also who started it? Well,
Speaker 13: there was, there's the nineteen seventy borders, there's the nineteen
Speaker 13: sixty eight borders. The Jews have done nothing but expand
Speaker 13: their territory more and more. In the population of Gaza
Speaker 13: was composed of people who were kicked out of everywhere else.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget they gave back land right in the
Speaker 1: two thousands.
Speaker 13: In two thousand and five because there were Israeli settlements
Speaker 13: in Gayza, and then the Israeli government said we're going
Speaker 13: to pull our settlers out of those and the settlers
Speaker 13: did not go willingly, but they did get pulled out.
Speaker 13: I don't think any of them died or anything. No, no,
Speaker 13: but there's this settler population that's very, very radical, and
Speaker 13: they're the most they're the most violent ones. Still they
Speaker 13: got pulled out.
Speaker 1: Let's go off of that number. Let's let's say it
Speaker 1: is seventy thousand. I don't know what the population of
Speaker 1: Palestine is grand total. I don't know at what point
Speaker 1: you could classify something as a genocide rather than to
Speaker 1: say that it was, you know, collateral damage, Like, at
Speaker 1: what point does it go from collateral damage to obviously
Speaker 1: there is like there's some wild shit going on here.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that there was no wildness going
Speaker 1: on with the Gods situation. Absolutely there was, right. We
Speaker 1: have tons of reports from all sides of the conflicts
Speaker 1: saying that there was way too much brutality where it
Speaker 1: wasn't needed. I'm willing to be with you on this.
Speaker 1: Acknowledge this. I don't know how he would be able
Speaker 1: to classify this as a genocide, however, I don't know aside. Yes,
Speaker 1: you could see the Israeli soldiers themselves, they are doing
Speaker 1: some wild shit, but those are usually smaller groups, right.
Speaker 1: This is the same conversation to say, there was that
Speaker 1: marine that threw a puppy off a cliff in Afghanistan
Speaker 1: and that video went super viral. The Marines are trying
Speaker 1: to kill all the dogs in Afghanistan. Did these ruthless
Speaker 1: monsters or was that one guy being a shithead. Well,
Speaker 1: there's this group of Marine Corps snipers that are pissing
Speaker 1: all over dead Taliban soldiers. The Marines don't respect the dead,
Speaker 1: is okay? Maybe? Or was that an isolated case that
Speaker 1: went viral and optics for everything? You see what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Uh huh. So I don't know what the population of
Speaker 1: Palestine was prior to the you know Hamas in the attack,
Speaker 1: versus what it is today.
Speaker 13: I'm you know, Gaza was two point two million, I
Speaker 13: think if we're from what I've read, and West Bank
Speaker 13: gives the way bigger one at about six million. Okay,
Speaker 13: But also I've read that, like and Sam brought this up,
Speaker 13: the population of Palestine has increased over the last fifty
Speaker 13: sixty seventy years.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure people do be fucking.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and somehow they have enough food and everything. But
Speaker 13: I don't know if I can trust any of the
Speaker 13: numbers coming out of there now since October seventh, especially
Speaker 13: from Gaza.
Speaker 1: Well what does it say, like what's the current population
Speaker 1: of Palestine? And granted we need to take this with
Speaker 1: a massive heap of salt.
Speaker 13: Well, Donald Trump was trying to set up this board
Speaker 13: of peace, and he said, I think Oz is going
Speaker 13: to be a great place for the one point seven
Speaker 13: million people who are going to live there. So we
Speaker 13: went from okay, do the quick subtraction. That's half a
Speaker 13: million people gone from what it was assumed to be
Speaker 13: before October seventh. So he kind of may have let
Speaker 13: the truth out by accident there.
Speaker 1: If that's accurate if there has been a half a
Speaker 1: million deaths, and again I'm not trying to like downplay that.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the international community classifies as like
Speaker 1: a number value associated with Okay, this is clearly a
Speaker 1: genocide because there was Muslims that were killed in that attack.
Speaker 1: There was there was Christians that were killed as a
Speaker 1: part of the Israeli attack on Gaza as well. So
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a it's not a racial thing.
Speaker 1: It's not I guess you could say a nationality thing,
Speaker 1: but even that's kind of a tentative statement. So I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I don't know if this would
Speaker 1: actually be classified as a genocide or if that is
Speaker 1: a yellow journalism trying to make a thing bigger and
Speaker 1: more impactful than it actually is. I don't know.
Speaker 13: Right there's been this ICC prosecution report that's basically quote
Speaker 13: mind all the members of the Israeli government who have
Speaker 13: ever said anything very harsh against the Palestinians along the
Speaker 13: lines of get rid of them, and Ben Gavier was
Speaker 13: saying just this past week, you know, if you're a
Speaker 13: soldier and you're not killing like thirty or forty Palestinians
Speaker 13: a day, in guys, and you're not doing enough. You
Speaker 13: gotta crank those numbers up. Bro, speaking Hebrew, this is
Speaker 13: Itamar ben Gavier. It was just another statement this week.
Speaker 13: This guy's always saying shitty things.
Speaker 4: He's embarrassed.
Speaker 14: Man.
Speaker 13: You know, Nettan Yahoo is at least smart enough not
Speaker 13: to say stuff like that most of the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give you that. There are some people that
Speaker 1: are a little extra with the Israeli conversation then Yah,
Speaker 1: who's definitely one of them. Hadn't heard Ben Gavier say that,
Speaker 1: But okay, that is a statement. And again even I
Speaker 1: remember times in the military, Dude, there'd be guys that
Speaker 1: would like get you motivated to go over and fucking
Speaker 1: slam heads against walls and like blood cuts and chaos
Speaker 1: all the things. I'm not sure if this was him
Speaker 1: speaking to the troops and like getting them riled up,
Speaker 1: or if this was him giving some sort of an
Speaker 1: address to the nation in like a press conference type situation. Ah,
Speaker 1: that's it could play very well in one case and
Speaker 1: not very well in another. So I don't know, Bengavier
Speaker 1: sounds kind of a kind of like a dickhead to
Speaker 1: me personally. Sam, go ahead once again, see you, brother.
Speaker 2: You brought up NAT and Yahoo. No offense to you voice.
Speaker 2: You know you're my second favorite Jew. But fuck the
Speaker 2: NAT and Yahoo or Satan Yahoo. However you feel about him,
Speaker 2: I don't like him because in.
Speaker 15: The front of the cap everything he's on America, good funds,
Speaker 15: good funds. But but he as say that we've been
Speaker 15: in that war.
Speaker 14: We've been at war against woom for the last couple
Speaker 14: of thousand years. And then but then he also likes
Speaker 14: America to room and but behind the scenes hitting cameras.
Speaker 14: So how do you feel about American of the Jewish
Speaker 14: war on Rome or something?
Speaker 2: The book's weird? He says that, well, America is the
Speaker 2: new Rome and we'll never be funds with room.
Speaker 1: They're the enemy.
Speaker 8: So net and Ya, who is.
Speaker 2: Definitely a snake in the grass.
Speaker 1: Bro, you got to get to somewhere with better service.
Speaker 1: You you, Sam, I love you to death. You've got
Speaker 1: to get somewhere. We have more than one bar of service. Brother.
Speaker 1: It's it's getting bad. It's crazy work. But okay, uh Royce,
Speaker 1: if you can understand any of that, give your two.
Speaker 2: I have fool WiFi and it something's.
Speaker 1: Off, Sam. I don't know to tell Royce go ahead.
Speaker 8: So I don't know because I think I'm fluded.
Speaker 10: I'm not really into Israeli politics, so I couldn't tell
Speaker 10: you one way or the other.
Speaker 1: Good don't get into Israeli politics.
Speaker 10: It's fucking dogshit, right, So like, I don't know a
Speaker 10: lot of what I know slash year.
Speaker 8: I'll either read sibits here and there or what you
Speaker 8: guys have to say. So I don't honestly know.
Speaker 9: I know that that I've had friends or I have
Speaker 9: friends who live in Israel who know a lot more
Speaker 9: than I do, and they say that it's not how
Speaker 9: it always appears in the in the mainstream media.
Speaker 8: But like yet, I don't know. I I am.
Speaker 10: A treasure trove of knowledge on other random shits politics
Speaker 10: and Yahoo.
Speaker 8: I am an ignorantus. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, You're probably better off for that,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. It's any pretty, any pretty,
Speaker 1: no matter what way slice it. Get the chat, go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead. Time.
Speaker 13: I want to go one back, one step back to
Speaker 13: what I was saying about how educated Jews have a
Speaker 13: very very very long term view of history, and to them,
Speaker 13: the United States of America has not been around very
Speaker 13: long time at all. It's only been maybe a tenth
Speaker 13: of their history, and they consider all Christened Christendom to
Speaker 13: be probably their enemy based on their experience in the
Speaker 13: Middle Ages and Byzantine Empire and everything like that. So
Speaker 13: I think American Protestants think of themselves as something like
Speaker 13: the antithesis of Rome. But to educated Jews who think
Speaker 13: in a very very long time span, you Protestants are
Speaker 13: still Rome to them, You're still Christendom to them, and
Speaker 13: you're you may be a fairweather friend right now, but
Speaker 13: it's been a very brief period of history where that's
Speaker 13: been the case and not permanent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's crazy to me because the Protestants themselves
Speaker 1: have been very very pro Israel, right, and the Protestants
Speaker 1: do see ourselves as I want to say, the antithesis
Speaker 1: of Rome. I'll say, the correct evolution of Rome. And
Speaker 1: the Protestants by and large are pro Israel. These days,
Speaker 1: more and more of them are turning from that mindset,
Speaker 1: like as of the current as of like six months
Speaker 1: ago to now, most of them are turning from it.
Speaker 1: But for the majority of Protestantism, aside from Martin Luther,
Speaker 1: he himself being the quote unquote father of Protestantism, he
Speaker 1: himself led a few big pushes against the Jews in Germany. Right,
Speaker 1: he even wrote a book that's outlawed in the United
Speaker 1: States about the truth on Jews. It's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: But you know, the Germans have always hated They got
Speaker 1: long standing history of the Germans having issues with the Jews.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, but yeah, I could. I
Speaker 1: can understand why the Israelis or the Jewish people would
Speaker 1: have an issue with Christendom as a whole, even though
Speaker 1: the only reason they exist is because, like the nation
Speaker 1: of Israel exists is because of Christendom as a whole. Right,
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for Christendom, World War II wouldn't have
Speaker 1: gone the way that they would hope, and Israel wouldn't
Speaker 1: be the nation that they are now. But like, all right, yes,
Speaker 1: I understand the Germans had some sort of like Operation
Speaker 1: African situation where they were gonna take Madagascar and turn
Speaker 1: that into like a Jewish haven. That was never going
Speaker 1: to work. There was zero point zero zero percent shot
Speaker 1: that that was actually going to be a viable option.
Speaker 1: It is the thing that was written down on paper.
Speaker 1: That is the thing that a couple of German politicians
Speaker 1: are pushing for. The logistics of it do not line up.
Speaker 1: The just the very basis of infrastructure was not there.
Speaker 1: But that, yeah, sure, I don't know. It just it's
Speaker 1: never been a thing that I've never met a Jewish
Speaker 1: person who looks at me as a Christian and is like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're one of those. I have seen Jewish people feel
Speaker 1: that way about the Muslims. That is a fact, even
Speaker 1: in America. So I don't know. Oh, God, Tristan, I
Speaker 1: see you. It's your hand raised way in on this one, bro.
Speaker 6: No, I just wanted to know you consider yourself Protestant
Speaker 6: or what do you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, if I had to put a title over myself,
Speaker 1: I would say that I am a non denominational I
Speaker 1: suppose evangelical Christian, but there is a few nuances to
Speaker 1: that that I don't really get into the whole televangelism
Speaker 1: side of things. I have a really big problem with
Speaker 1: a lot of the big mega churches and how they
Speaker 1: do business, because I don't believe that church should be
Speaker 1: a business. I feel like there's a very fine line
Speaker 1: that should be drawn in the sand on that one.
Speaker 1: But yes, as far as I goes, so, I hold
Speaker 1: respect for the Catholics. I hold respect for the Eastern
Speaker 1: Orthodox and what you might call like high mass denominations
Speaker 1: of Christianity. I got mad respect for them. I do
Speaker 1: believe that they are in error. I don't believe that
Speaker 1: they are in what they might say anathema or whatever.
Speaker 13: Like.
Speaker 1: I don't think that Catholics are going to hell because
Speaker 1: they think that the wine and the bread is actually
Speaker 1: Jesus blood and body. I don't believe that they're going
Speaker 1: to hell for such a belief by any means, right,
Speaker 1: But I think that they may have a few errors
Speaker 1: in their beliefs, and they believe that I have a
Speaker 1: few errors in mind. You know, they're no hatred here.
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, all right, I just want to know I
Speaker 6: heard you talking about it.
Speaker 16: Second I was like, I don't know if I've ever
Speaker 16: actually cleared up what he would call himself.
Speaker 6: So all right, okay, by.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough. Although somebody asked in the Chat
Speaker 1: is Israel, I'm sorry, don't don't the Mountain Jews own
Speaker 1: land in Israel?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Church of Latter day Saints
Speaker 1: aka the Mormons aka Joseph Smith Cocksuckers aka the Mountain Jews.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they actually believe that they own
Speaker 1: land in Israel because their Zion is in Missouri. Their
Speaker 1: holiest city on Earth is in Missouri. So take that
Speaker 1: with what you want. It's a whole. It's like a
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's a pilgrimage site for
Speaker 1: them or not. I do know that a lot of
Speaker 1: Mormons make a trip to that area once a year,
Speaker 1: but I mean, it's not like a yearly thing. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of a thing, you know. It's like saying, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I like Disney movies, but I'm not going out of
Speaker 1: my way to go to Disneyland. It's a thing I
Speaker 1: could go to, but it's not a thing I got
Speaker 1: to go to unless you're a Disney adult, which means
Speaker 1: that you're probably a victim of Listen, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that every child molestation victim becomes a Disney adult. All
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that every Disney adult happens to be
Speaker 1: a victim of child molestation. You do with that information,
Speaker 1: which you want, all right? The first man I see
Speaker 1: the hand raised by the go ahead.
Speaker 4: If I recall correctly.
Speaker 17: Yeah, Missouri is their big promised land area and cornerstone
Speaker 17: for the temple I think is still there. And if
Speaker 17: I recall though, the Catholic Church currently owns the land,
Speaker 17: it's on God.
Speaker 1: If that ain't some sort of poetic justice, I don't
Speaker 1: know what is bro The cornerstone is currently owned by
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church. Is there a church?
Speaker 8: There?
Speaker 1: Is there a cathedral in this area?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm not sure. I've never actually been
Speaker 4: there to see it.
Speaker 17: But that's just I was former LDS, so that's just
Speaker 17: how the story has been told to me.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize you were a former LDS. Holy shit,
Speaker 1: Hold on now, now we got a backtrack. Here are
Speaker 1: you from? Are you from the Utah area, or are
Speaker 1: you from somewhere else? It just happen to be LDS.
Speaker 17: No, just happened to be I was East Coast. That basically,
Speaker 17: my ex wife is what got me into it. And
Speaker 17: the more I see about the LDS church, the more
Speaker 17: I understand why she liked it.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait home, I'm back and back and
Speaker 1: back and back on your ex wife is what got
Speaker 1: you into this? So Tomes pause, Hold the fuck on
Speaker 1: you were out there living your life. Would you have
Speaker 1: classified yourself as like a Christian prior to the marriage.
Speaker 4: Uh? Not at that point.
Speaker 1: No, okay, So just kind of a believer in something,
Speaker 1: not really putting labels on it. And you found a woman,
Speaker 1: you fell in love. All the things you're telling me,
Speaker 1: that shit was so good that you were willing to
Speaker 1: start wearing like holy garbs under your clothes for that ass.
Speaker 17: Oh I never had the holy garbs. I never got
Speaker 17: the mcclassic priesthood.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, all right, so you were you were there,
Speaker 1: you know, in thoughts and prayers, you weren't there in physicality.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was only about a year.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, dude, watching people convert their religious beliefs
Speaker 1: for their spouse, which is it's beautiful to see, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, when it's genuine all the things
Speaker 1: good shit. I've mentioned this before. We had a Navy
Speaker 1: doc when I was in the Marine Corps, and we
Speaker 1: called him jew Doc first of all, because his nose
Speaker 1: was fucking too can sam on his boy, it was bad.
Speaker 1: But he I thought that he was born and raised Jewish,
Speaker 1: and that like led to the jokes being made and
Speaker 1: of course, it's the military. We give each other the
Speaker 1: piss all the time, taking and giving you. But no,
Speaker 1: he was born and raised Southern Baptist, but he was
Speaker 1: married to a Jewish woman and was going through the
Speaker 1: process of converting to Judaism. And I'm talking the whole nine,
Speaker 1: wearing the yamaka, all the things. And I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: is it really like that good? Like I've never I've
Speaker 1: never been with a Jewish lady, but like, is it
Speaker 1: good enough to forsake all of your upbringing and go
Speaker 1: to this route? And he's wore up and down. Yes,
Speaker 1: not just to her but to the religion itself all
Speaker 1: the things.
Speaker 12: Bro.
Speaker 1: As soon as he converts and has a kid with
Speaker 1: this chick, two years later she divorces his ass. Now
Speaker 1: he's paying child support, so some other duke live in
Speaker 1: his house. And I'm like, oh, oh, you got God,
Speaker 1: You got God hard. So I don't know, man, Maybe
Speaker 1: the LDS, I don't know. Maybe throwing that Mormon ass
Speaker 1: on it was enough to make you convert in some
Speaker 1: of your ways. But no, you kept it true, kept
Speaker 1: it wholesome in your regard. Man, I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, Tristan, go ahead, and wagh in you also
Speaker 1: being former man.
Speaker 16: I was just gonna say that actually, like, well, yeah,
Speaker 16: I mean it's basically there's on the kind of if
Speaker 16: I remember it, they kind of thing. It's like where
Speaker 16: the Garden of Eden.
Speaker 6: Was and all that shit.
Speaker 16: Closest city to that I think is Independence, But they
Speaker 16: don't actually have a temple there. So the spin off
Speaker 16: from the Mormon Church I think it's called like the
Speaker 16: Community of Christ.
Speaker 6: Church or something. They have the temple there and it
Speaker 6: is a fucking crazy looking building. You should look it
Speaker 6: up real quick.
Speaker 1: The Community of Christ Church in Missouri.
Speaker 16: Yeah, temple, Community of Christ Temple and Independence of Missouri.
Speaker 16: It's like an upside down fucking snow cone or something.
Speaker 16: So it was like it was one of the brothers
Speaker 16: or nephews of I don't know, somebody who thought that
Speaker 16: they should be the ones to take over control. Yeah,
Speaker 16: I look at that fucking thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, pause. I mean I ask you a couple of
Speaker 1: follow up questions here, brother, So the Community of Christ
Speaker 1: is this still considered LDS Uh?
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, I mean yes, I think they consider themselves
Speaker 16: that basically.
Speaker 1: I mean, they it's all.
Speaker 6: The same shit.
Speaker 16: But like I said, when the hans Mill massacre happened,
Speaker 16: which is where a bunch of them got killed, including Smith. Actually,
Speaker 16: I have like a great great maybe great, I don't
Speaker 16: know how many times great, but one of my great
Speaker 16: uncles freaking died right alongside of him too.
Speaker 6: I didn't even know until.
Speaker 16: My grandpa passed away a couple of years ago how
Speaker 16: entrenched my family is in the fucking history of the
Speaker 16: beginnings of the church.
Speaker 6: But it's fucking deep because.
Speaker 16: Like my grandpa, he wasn't even raised in the church,
Speaker 16: like his mom was kind of Mormon, but not really.
Speaker 16: Right then, my grandma made Grandpa convert and joined the
Speaker 16: church when he was like my age, when he was
Speaker 16: like forty, because much like me, he was a crazy
Speaker 16: fucking he was alcoholic. Mine was always kind of more substance,
Speaker 16: but he was a crazy fucking alcoholic, being a crazy asshole.
Speaker 16: Gramm was like, you are done with this and we're
Speaker 16: joining the church or we're fucking getting a divorce.
Speaker 4: Wait.
Speaker 1: Wait, Joseph Smith was killed. He was shot in the
Speaker 1: upstairs room and fell to his death. That was in Missouri.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That was in this area, And you know what the
Speaker 1: fuck is this? Y'all? Do labyrinths, lds, walks, labyrinths and shit.
Speaker 18: Oh man, I have no idea what the fuck that is. Honestly,
Speaker 18: I had no idea. I'm learning new things today, y'all.
Speaker 18: The Mountain Jews got their own wild shit, Okay, I mean.
Speaker 6: It's it's basically the spinoff. I can't remember if it
Speaker 6: was like.
Speaker 16: Joseph Smith's nephew or fucking cousin or something, but it
Speaker 16: was somebody who thought that they should be the ones.
Speaker 6: To take over the church when he died.
Speaker 16: They got fucking the boot, you know, because everybody else followed.
Speaker 6: Whoever else was. I don't think it was Brigham Young yet, but.
Speaker 16: Maybe it was whoever whoever they followed out of Missouri
Speaker 16: into Utah's who obviously inheritance leaders in the church.
Speaker 1: But what Sam's still cutting out like crazy, he's jumping in.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of it.
Speaker 6: Quit speaking, Sam, Nobody understands.
Speaker 1: You can't understand you, Sam. You gotta get to a
Speaker 1: better area, Sam, That's essentially what it sounds like. I know, Sam,
Speaker 1: usually you're coming through crystal clear. I don't know what's up.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a Wi Fi or your phone,
Speaker 1: or what's up? Maybe like leave the chat and then
Speaker 1: come back in or something. Maybe that will help.
Speaker 6: He made the fucking Israeli Jews man, and then they're
Speaker 6: fucking attacking.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. He called for the genocide of
Speaker 1: the original Jews, not the Mountain Jews. Jesus all right,
Speaker 1: But anyways, so yeah, I didn't know that this place existed,
Speaker 1: So this is new information to me. I'm going to
Speaker 1: be looking up the Community of Christ Temple more in
Speaker 1: depth later on Jesus. Okay, Royce, go ahead, man.
Speaker 10: Why the fun Jewish facts for the night is that
Speaker 10: if there is a man who conversed to Judaism, if
Speaker 10: he is not circumcised, he must become circumcised. If he
Speaker 10: is super if he is in fact circumcised, then there
Speaker 10: is a there is a ritual called tipazzam, which is
Speaker 10: literally means a blood where blood is drawn from that
Speaker 10: area to signify the circumcision being done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and from what I and I asked him about
Speaker 1: that as well. Actually, so he was already circumcised. The
Speaker 1: majority of Christians circumcise their children. And this isn't like
Speaker 1: a ninety percent, it's it's becoming less and less common
Speaker 1: these days. But yeah, the majority of you know, Christians,
Speaker 1: especially because he was born Southern Baptist, so a lot
Speaker 1: of the Protestant Christianity groups will definitely be circumcising their children.
Speaker 1: So I think he just had to do a little thing,
Speaker 1: a little pinprick, little blood from the dick. He's good
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 10: I had that, by the way, by I had that
Speaker 10: done because when I was so because when I was
Speaker 10: a kid, I was serercized in the hospital.
Speaker 8: So when as I.
Speaker 10: Was becoming religious, I actually had that ceremony done on me.
Speaker 10: As a matter of fact, the same day that my
Speaker 10: son was circumcised, the same day, the same day, actually,
Speaker 10: I had mine done and then my son was circumcised.
Speaker 8: By the way, he also cried. He also cried a
Speaker 8: lot worse during his first bath.
Speaker 10: Than he did when he was circumcised, which is very ironic.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've had my son's circumcised, but honestly,
Speaker 1: that wasn't for religious reasons. That was for cleanliness reasons.
Speaker 1: But I know some people think that I'm some sort
Speaker 1: of a monster for doing that. Okay, fine, y'all raise
Speaker 1: your kids the way you want to raise them. All
Speaker 1: raised mind the way I want to. But you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, I've even told the story. Man, my
Speaker 1: grandfather couldn't deploy the Korea until he got cut. That
Speaker 1: used to be a thing that you had to do
Speaker 1: in the military before you were deployable, because if you
Speaker 1: are going without a shower for six months, they need
Speaker 1: to know that your dick's not going to rot off
Speaker 1: from god knows what. And it's like, well, that's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy to us now. In the fifties, that wasn't
Speaker 1: seen as so crazy, to be honest with you, I
Speaker 1: was just kind of what it was. But anyway, yeah,
Speaker 1: wild shit. And I didn't know that because I knew you.
Speaker 13: You.
Speaker 1: I thought, you know you were born you have Jewish
Speaker 1: blood within you, but I know you were raised more
Speaker 1: of a I don't know.
Speaker 8: I was raised Christian. I was Christian?
Speaker 1: Was it Christian or Messianic jew?
Speaker 8: I was raised Christian up until I was ten.
Speaker 10: Then my mother discovered Messianic Christianity when I was ten,
Speaker 10: and so from ten to eighteen.
Speaker 1: I was Messianic. Okay, okay, fair enough, But but you
Speaker 1: were circumcised that as a child, like at birth so
Speaker 1: to speak. Correct, Yes, yeah, so All you had to
Speaker 1: do was give a little blood when the time came.
Speaker 1: So I hope it didn't leave like a scar or nothing.
Speaker 1: That would be weird.
Speaker 8: No, but I almost passed out because I didn't eat
Speaker 8: anything that morning.
Speaker 1: That was fun, Dude, I I got loopy. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: like that with needles, Dude. That's the thing I'm not
Speaker 1: scared of. Like tattoos, seeing a needle doesn't do nothing
Speaker 1: to me. Getting stuck. I didn't even know that was
Speaker 1: the thing until boot camp. Running the gaunt, like getting
Speaker 1: stuck thirteen times in like thirty seconds apparently made me drop. Dude.
Speaker 1: Still to this day, I'm like that when it comes
Speaker 1: to needles. I hate it. That's one of my biggest
Speaker 1: flaws that if I could change about me, I would.
Speaker 1: I will also say, though, whenever I would give blood
Speaker 1: back when I was a drinker, I loved it. Man.
Speaker 1: You go donate a you know, a pint or court
Speaker 1: whatever they take off you. Then you go right off
Speaker 1: the little vampire bus and you light you up a
Speaker 1: cigarette and go splam you like two beers.
Speaker 19: You are.
Speaker 1: You're vibing at that point because you're already running a
Speaker 1: court low. You know what I'm saying, everything hits a
Speaker 1: little more intensity at that moment, which was perfect for me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, the first man, I see you, brother,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, back to the Mountain Jews.
Speaker 17: After I got out of it and I started getting
Speaker 17: into this world, I decided, you know, I'm gonna look
Speaker 17: up the meaning of the name Morone.
Speaker 4: You know, the angel that came to Joseph Smith the.
Speaker 1: Very good rabbit hole to dive down into.
Speaker 17: Man, Yeah, one of the harder ones that will pop up,
Speaker 17: but you have to kind of dig for it. Is
Speaker 17: the meaning is from the from the place or at
Speaker 17: the Lake of fire or something along that line.
Speaker 4: That a little interesting.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah. The whole MORONEI thing is, I'm be honest
Speaker 1: with you, any any group that's trying to name an
Speaker 1: angel is a little silly to me, because there are
Speaker 1: a few angels that were named biblically speaking. But even
Speaker 1: to say like the Metatron, that's not, at least in
Speaker 1: the Christian literature nowhere you're gonna find that name anywhere.
Speaker 1: I think there may possibly and Royce, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you even dug in on this one. There's a
Speaker 1: Jewish source that names the Metatron, but that's not like
Speaker 1: a name that Christianity is supposed to really acknowledged. Then
Speaker 1: you got Morona I that ain't nowhere in the text
Speaker 1: completely made up start to finish. But then again, so
Speaker 1: is the entirety of the storyline of the Book of Mormons.
Speaker 1: So like, all right, sure for throwing things, and why
Speaker 1: not throw in a little extra thing here and there
Speaker 1: for flair. I don't know, Royce, do you know anything
Speaker 1: about the old Metatron?
Speaker 8: So I know that he's brought up for sure, and
Speaker 8: commentaries for the Torah, I'm sure he's brought up in Gamara.
Speaker 8: I will tell you this that even when it comes
Speaker 8: to that angel's name or that angel that most people
Speaker 8: do not say the entire word.
Speaker 4: We say attacks.
Speaker 8: We actually don't generally say the entire name.
Speaker 1: So you do believe in this this angel.
Speaker 8: So yeah, for sure, I think that they're saying that.
Speaker 20: The angel that uh, that his who was associated with
Speaker 20: God's name specifically, is that also my my be the
Speaker 20: game of the Angel of Death.
Speaker 8: I don't remember exactly. I look it up really quick,
Speaker 8: really quickly, but yeah, sure.
Speaker 10: In in commentaries, for sure, he's written about, but nothing
Speaker 10: is explicit in thea in general.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, sam U see your hand raised.
Speaker 1: Let's hope the audio quality is a little better this
Speaker 1: time around.
Speaker 8: Do I sound like a person?
Speaker 12: Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Whatever you did, it fixed it, all right? Brother?
Speaker 14: Weigh in.
Speaker 2: So, first off, I just dropped two things down for
Speaker 2: of Metatron, a lot of and yes, supernaturals claimed him
Speaker 2: to be a skuy, but that's neither here nor there
Speaker 2: there According to certain apok of full text from the Vampires,
Speaker 2: and I'm not talking about the dwarfs in vampires, I'm
Speaker 2: about voices vampires, that he some believed that he is
Speaker 2: actually the transformed prophet Enoch, that when he became, when
Speaker 2: he was ascended up without dying, that he transformed into
Speaker 2: an angel. I, however, do not ascertain that. I don't
Speaker 2: believe a man man will ever become an angelist, because
Speaker 2: we are higher than the angels.
Speaker 8: The angels and everything, correct.
Speaker 1: I asked.
Speaker 2: But I, however, do find it funny because to that
Speaker 2: to the Mormons, the dwarfing vampires, they're Moses like person
Speaker 2: would be Brigham Young because he's the one that took
Speaker 2: them to Utah. He's also the one that started the
Speaker 2: polygamy and bill U bigamy.
Speaker 1: Joseph Smith started that too, though, brother, that wasn't just
Speaker 1: a Brigham thing. Joseph Smith had a couple of wives.
Speaker 1: One of them was like twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Brigham Young was also one that says, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna have any colored ribes because he absolutely
Speaker 2: hated that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude. The Mormons believe that black people came
Speaker 1: from demons up until like the eighties. They finally swapped
Speaker 1: now and finally like, Okay, maybe maybe the blacks can
Speaker 1: go to Heaven.
Speaker 13: Two.
Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see. It's like, wait, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies or eighties somewhere in there, it's like
Speaker 1: you're just now acknowledging that that's crazy.
Speaker 2: There is a thought that Noah's sons were the progenitor
Speaker 2: of most of the races.
Speaker 12: If I came, I think.
Speaker 2: The ham he was the curse. He got cursed by Noah,
Speaker 2: and he was the progenitor of the African race. And
Speaker 2: one became the progenitor of the Mongoloid race, and then
Speaker 2: the other one became the Takus Caucasian or whatever the
Speaker 2: fuck you want to call it.
Speaker 8: I don't remember the scientific term.
Speaker 2: But each one of them is a progenitor, which is
Speaker 2: kind of funny because they each had a wife and
Speaker 2: women's While yes, we can trace out of conco DNA
Speaker 2: to a one woman because every man's might conco DNA
Speaker 2: exclusively comes to a from a woman. But there's three
Speaker 2: strands of it now due to the three vives of that, well,
Speaker 2: Noah's ark of that.
Speaker 4: Noah's children's wives.
Speaker 2: So it all makes sense. And I mean personally, Uh,
Speaker 2: talking about how a guy will convert over a religion
Speaker 2: to his wife, all I'm gonna say is, you can't
Speaker 2: put a price on good pussy, and good pussy will
Speaker 2: have a man do some stupid ship.
Speaker 1: I have seen many a man sign over everything for
Speaker 1: something like that. This is a fact.
Speaker 2: I will admit I have done some stupid ship. M
Speaker 2: I was young and dumb and full of come.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean we've all done some stupid things in
Speaker 1: our youth. I get this one.
Speaker 2: But you know, I never convert religions. And uh, circumcision
Speaker 2: is mutilation.
Speaker 1: Actually I disagree with you, but also disagree, but that's
Speaker 1: the thing. This is one of those This is especially
Speaker 1: these days, this is such a topic thereby's like you're
Speaker 1: cutting off nerve endings from the skin, not from the
Speaker 1: head of your dick.
Speaker 2: It's not this okay, So do you not consider cutting
Speaker 2: oneself self mutilation?
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on for what purpose.
Speaker 2: If you cut something off of your body, that is mutilation. Look,
Speaker 2: I understand God said it's a covenant and everything to
Speaker 2: show the faith. But at the same time, if God
Speaker 2: didn't want that to be on Jumans, he wouldn't have
Speaker 2: specifically put it there.
Speaker 1: I disagree, Yeah, same, same.
Speaker 8: It's also also.
Speaker 10: The fact that that it's there, and the fact that
Speaker 10: we have to cut it off, Like one one of
Speaker 10: the lessons that I was taught to learn from boy.
Speaker 1: This is obviously a religious.
Speaker 21: Thought, but like the whole idea is that we should
Speaker 21: be sectually pure, that we should not like go out
Speaker 21: and control ourselves, especially us men. And I speak very
Speaker 21: much so for myself and I'm not speaking for anybody else,
Speaker 21: but like I know that it's very very easy to
Speaker 21: let that uh part of our anatomy, you know, control us,
Speaker 21: or control and control me. So the whole idea is
Speaker 21: to cut it back and control it. But like the
Speaker 21: fact that so here, I also don't think that so
Speaker 21: if we want to.
Speaker 9: Get certumcized for climates reasons, no problem. But like, honestly,
Speaker 9: if nobody else besides Jews got circumcised, like, that's okay
Speaker 9: with me because the origins of it, at least what
Speaker 9: I believe, is the covenant between God and the Jewish people.
Speaker 9: So like anybody wants to do it, fantastic, but it's
Speaker 9: not a necessity as opposed to Jews.
Speaker 10: It is like people the Jews can't even take the
Speaker 10: the the corbin paystock. We're not even supposed to have
Speaker 10: any of that unless you're certain size.
Speaker 8: So there's rules of regulations for it.
Speaker 1: No, I would agree to it. Let me ask you this, Sam,
Speaker 1: just throwing this out as an example. Do you believe
Speaker 1: that somebody gauging their ears is mutilation? The reason why
Speaker 1: I'm asking is because you're you weren't born with these
Speaker 1: massive holes in your ears. Do you believe that somebody
Speaker 1: that is will, under their own fruition, free human being,
Speaker 1: put gauges in their ears? Do you believe that they
Speaker 1: are mutilating their body, their holy temple? Or do you
Speaker 1: think that this is h is a them thing?
Speaker 2: I mean, I have tattoos, I have my ears, do
Speaker 2: I I personally wouldn't do it. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: that's not you putting pieces a piece of your body,
Speaker 2: your body off.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is not necessarily apples apples comparison. I understand that.
Speaker 1: But my point is you are doing a modification to
Speaker 1: your body that God didn't give you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, with that being said, I've also
Speaker 2: the only body. I mean, I want to do a
Speaker 2: type of body modification called scarification that.
Speaker 1: Is absolutely modific, that is mutilation by definition.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, boy, I'm not cutting actual flesh off
Speaker 2: of me.
Speaker 1: No, you're scarring your body. Which it's where now we
Speaker 1: are talking apples to apples.
Speaker 2: I mean, what is the tattoo if not a designed scar?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I'm here for it, and for religious
Speaker 1: reasons is the reason why I'm here for it. Keep
Speaker 1: in mind there's multiple times in the Bible where God
Speaker 1: mentions tattoos. The Bible says that God has a tattoo
Speaker 1: of the your face on the palm of his hand.
Speaker 1: There's also a time when there was a celebration that
Speaker 1: was done in God's honor, and he was so pleased
Speaker 1: with it that he gave everybody in attendance rings and
Speaker 1: nose rings. This is all that God gave the people. See,
Speaker 1: I don't think that any of this is you know
Speaker 1: negative what I am saying. And I don't also believe.
Speaker 2: That if somebody, if a man is gonna get circumcised,
Speaker 2: I personally believe that should be a thing that he
Speaker 2: does when he is at the age of maturity. If
Speaker 2: he wants to do that to get closer to God,
Speaker 2: yes I should go for it. Well, if I have
Speaker 2: an old lady and she says she's that when the
Speaker 2: housband says she wants a kid to get circumercised, I'm like, nope,
Speaker 2: he ain't doing that, not to my son, Fuck you bitch, Nope.
Speaker 1: I will say that you would rather be done when
Speaker 1: their babies and don't remember, I think that's more humane,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: I think the whole practice of it is not humane.
Speaker 2: Maybe my person myself, that know, that's not a thing
Speaker 2: like it throughout my family.
Speaker 1: That's not a thing. So I mean, look, everybody's got
Speaker 1: their own things, and I'm not saying that I believe
Speaker 1: that if you don't get certain and you're going to hell.
Speaker 1: Like no, we live under a new covenant these days, right,
Speaker 1: Circumcision is not a part of the covenant that Christians
Speaker 1: live under these days. However, it's also a thing that
Speaker 1: has been practiced for thousands of years safely and ethically.
Speaker 1: So I don't I know a lot of people are
Speaker 1: going to get mad at me for this one.
Speaker 2: What about the ones that suck the penis blood that they.
Speaker 1: Put I'm not talking about how that is done. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about in today's modern world. Doctors are not sucking
Speaker 1: baby dicks, you know what I'm saying. So, like, no,
Speaker 1: it can be done ethically, and that's up to the
Speaker 1: parents to decide. But I don't think that there's a
Speaker 1: some sort of a crazy The same community that is
Speaker 1: very anti circumcision is the same community that is very
Speaker 1: anti vax And the problem is that they have a
Speaker 1: lot of very good points, but then they take it
Speaker 1: to such a far degree to where they're like, you
Speaker 1: are making it to where they'll never have sexual gratification
Speaker 1: as an adult. I'm like, that's very inaccurate, extremely accurate. Actually,
Speaker 1: E're cutting off so many nerve endings. No, you're cutting
Speaker 1: off a section of skin that, yeah, while it does
Speaker 1: have it has so many nerves in the noe. Sure,
Speaker 1: I have nerves on the back of my house.
Speaker 2: Sure be quicker to get to like sexual gratification, right,
Speaker 2: they needed to live, No, But at the same time,
Speaker 2: it's just like, why would we be cutting skin off
Speaker 2: of the genitals. That's like one one miss slip and
Speaker 2: you just castraighted a child.
Speaker 1: That miss slip is a bit of an extra miss slip.
Speaker 1: Dog the head of the dick is a good ways
Speaker 1: a way. Yeah, it has happened in some very extreme circumstances,
Speaker 1: but well, I believe in making rules for the majority,
Speaker 1: not the exception. That's just me. And if you're telling
Speaker 1: me that I got a ninety nine point nine to
Speaker 1: five percent chance of this procedure going on, fine and
Speaker 1: a point zero five percent chance of something going catastrophically wrong. Personally,
Speaker 1: I'm good with that. And everybody's got their own vibes
Speaker 1: on this. I'm not trying to convert your way of thinking,
Speaker 1: nothing like that. It's just I believe that it's a
Speaker 1: preference choice. What I'm saying is a lot of the
Speaker 1: literature you have to you have to read the biases
Speaker 1: on it, because these people are acting like a man
Speaker 1: that's been circumcised will be always he'll never understand what
Speaker 1: it's supposed to really feel like, and like that's very
Speaker 1: very untrue.
Speaker 2: Well, no, so when a man is circumcised, they it
Speaker 2: does become de sensit has by like a faction.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you can last longer. I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever heard of anyone complain of such. I agree, I'm
Speaker 1: just being real. Yeah, I've heard women. I've heard women
Speaker 1: say that they prefer uncut versus cut. Meanwhile, these same
Speaker 1: women are the ones they're asking why men don't last
Speaker 1: long enough. And it's like, well, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be that guy here to tell you this,
Speaker 1: but there ain't no Santa Claus. And perhaps you should
Speaker 1: change your taste. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Perhaps they swap up some positions, do something. You know what,
Speaker 2: I don't know. If a guy is a one pump chump,
Speaker 2: then he needs to hang it up.
Speaker 1: That's sad, but I mean that's the thing man, you
Speaker 1: get to do. It's uncircumcised. He rolls back the skin.
Speaker 1: He only he's he's working on a time clock. Right now,
Speaker 1: the wind blows the right way, it's all over. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: For yourself, I.
Speaker 1: Don't have to I'm cut, so I can't speak on
Speaker 1: me after this. I'm speaking on be half of my
Speaker 1: boys that I know that are uncut. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great until I roll it back. Then it's going down.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, so, you you just going in there
Speaker 1: like sheathed, You're you're you're doing the deed while the
Speaker 1: tool is still within the sheath, and then you're deciding
Speaker 1: to unsheath it. And he's like, yeah, when it's when
Speaker 1: it's go time, like you know what I'm saying, Then
Speaker 1: it's it's all all right.
Speaker 2: They're doing something wrong because.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know, dude, I would not know. I've never
Speaker 1: like watched the practice of how an uncut person gets
Speaker 1: after it. But I'm just gonna assume that works out
Speaker 1: for the.
Speaker 2: Way it works the exact same way. But if they're
Speaker 2: like on a time limit like fifteen minutes, dog, you
Speaker 2: stop jacking it.
Speaker 1: You need to do so or you need to do
Speaker 1: that more to desensitize it. Air go the reason for
Speaker 1: the cut. But okay, anyway we're getting we have gone
Speaker 1: so far off on the on the Dick conversations for
Speaker 1: this evening Norse Trucker come way in on this with
Speaker 1: your norse paganism. Tell us where we're fucked up here?
Speaker 22: Your guys are talking about dicks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's about as fucked.
Speaker 2: Up as it is.
Speaker 1: For what be it that I'm a Catholic? I'm uncut
Speaker 1: or I'm cut? So you know, wait, wait, wait pause,
Speaker 1: you just said very conflicting things you said. First off,
Speaker 1: I said, now you're saying catholic. Now you're saying cut uncut.
Speaker 1: Clarify dog, No.
Speaker 6: No, sorry, sorry?
Speaker 1: Be it that I was a Catholic? Yeah? Right, I'm cut? Okay,
Speaker 1: figure this right, Okay, Yeah, but let's not talk about
Speaker 1: dis Yeah, we can definitely change topics. It's all good.
Speaker 1: I think we've had our fill of the penile conversation
Speaker 1: this evening. Right, that works out. Moving on to the
Speaker 1: next article. Another democratic socialist victory Angie Nixon in Florida's
Speaker 1: and shockwaves through party establishment. So, for anybody who has
Speaker 1: been keeping up, by the way, if you're listed as
Speaker 1: a communist and I believe as a socialist as well,
Speaker 1: by federal law, you are not allowed to hold any
Speaker 1: elected position. Okay. If you are a communist and you
Speaker 1: win an election, you are supposed to be arrested on
Speaker 1: federal charges. It's just one of these laws is on
Speaker 1: the books that nobody really enacts or enforces. Right, So,
Speaker 1: now we have this situation going on. Direct quote, they
Speaker 1: call us extreme, they call us radical, the progressive Senate
Speaker 1: candidates said, but I think people see through that. No, No,
Speaker 1: actually we don't. We really don't, especially with old Angie Nixon.
Speaker 1: For those that don't know, Angie Nixon just had this
Speaker 1: go down.
Speaker 22: She only joined the organization back in June, but as
Speaker 22: a state lawmaker for the ree term, she's been known
Speaker 22: as a progressive fire brinker. They're interrupting the state House
Speaker 22: with a bullhorn and then staging a sit in at
Speaker 22: Ronda Santis' office this year to protest as jerrymandered congressional map.
Speaker 1: So real quick, I'm just to circle back to what
Speaker 1: she said here, direct quote from Angie Nixon. They call
Speaker 1: us extreme, they call us radical. But I think people
Speaker 1: see through that. Cut back to her with a pink
Speaker 1: megaphone in a hearing and just getting after dear and
Speaker 1: then with their guy. Okay, so again again, and I
Speaker 1: don't think that it's crazy to say that this is
Speaker 1: extreme misbehavior. I'm not saying there's not a time and
Speaker 1: place to act an ass. I'm saying literally for no reason.
Speaker 1: You can look up the reasons why she did that
Speaker 1: and what was being voted on that day. It was
Speaker 1: basically just too loudly show her ass. But here we go.
Speaker 1: It wasn't supposed to be this way. In conservative Florida,
Speaker 1: Alex Vindmann, a retired Army intelligence officer who blew the
Speaker 1: whistle on Donald Trump in his first term. Yep, y'all
Speaker 1: heard that right appeared set to carry the Democratic establishment
Speaker 1: banner as the party staged a long shot bid to
Speaker 1: topple the Republican US senator right off the rip. I
Speaker 1: would say, good fucking luck, you know, but okay, all right,
Speaker 1: Florida's Democratic voters had other ideas. Democratic socialist Angie Nixon
Speaker 1: emerged a surprise victor in the US Senate primary on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: after a campaign in which she was outfunded and outspent
Speaker 1: by Vindmann at a ratio of more than ten to one.
Speaker 1: This actually kind of sounds familiar to me. I brought
Speaker 1: up Brandon Herrera in Texas and he was also outspent
Speaker 1: ten to one by the incumbent, and he's a Republican
Speaker 1: the guy who was taking the position from was listed
Speaker 1: as a Republican Tony Gonzalez, who is actually not. He's
Speaker 1: a rhino and a bitch. I'm gonna be honest with you,
Speaker 1: but either way, he was outspent ten to one and
Speaker 1: lost the vote by like four hundred votes. This time around,
Speaker 1: he's pretty much handily clinched the position. And as before,
Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez's assistant set herself on fire for affair between
Speaker 1: the two of them. That's a whole other conversation, but
Speaker 1: the point is so Angie Nixon was outspent by the
Speaker 1: incumbent right ten to one, and the voters, for some reason,
Speaker 1: thought that she was the voice they wanted to speak
Speaker 1: on their behalf in Washington, d C. Her trive have
Speaker 1: sent shockwaves through the Democratic Party machine as it prepares
Speaker 1: to mount a challenge to the incumbent Republican Senator Ashley
Speaker 1: Moody in November's US midterm elections. Now here's the deal.
Speaker 1: As of now, Ashley Moody is the incumbent, So all
Speaker 1: this was was knocking out the other Democratic nominee that
Speaker 1: was highly highly, more favored than she was. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: She's louder she's got more eyes on her. The people
Speaker 1: are moving in that direction. She's got a lot of motion.
Speaker 1: So with that mind, yeah, we're moving forward here. Nixon
Speaker 1: a Tenasius, a tenacious, rather left wing fighter and former
Speaker 1: union organizer who has represented Jacksonville in the Florida House
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty. A union organizer. Now, I'm not anti union,
Speaker 1: but I am saying that typically when there's unions, there's
Speaker 1: fuck shit afoot. So all right. She raised nine hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy five thousand dollars in her campaign as against
Speaker 1: Vindemann's sixteen point three million, but garnered more than seven
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand votes to her opponent's five hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty, an overwhelming victory that has left his campaign
Speaker 1: scratching its head as to where it all went wrong.
Speaker 1: I got a weird feeling. I got a weird feeling.
Speaker 1: It's because of social media. It's because she knows how
Speaker 1: to go viral. The legacy politicians don't understand, well, maybe
Speaker 1: we should be using the Internet for our campaigns. You're like,
Speaker 1: they're just now getting hip to that fact. Meanwhile, Yeah,
Speaker 1: younger people who understand how algorithms work are able to
Speaker 1: get their name out there, way more for way less money.
Speaker 1: It's crazy to see how it's shifting. But anyway, quote,
Speaker 1: the reason we all collectively thought that he was the
Speaker 1: favorite was because he had the national name recognition. Yes,
Speaker 1: because that's what wins elections these days. The same name
Speaker 1: you've seen on the ballot for the last eight elections
Speaker 1: that didn't win, they're gonna see that name. And no,
Speaker 1: he means business fucking return. And especially because he was
Speaker 1: able to raise so much money. No, that means that
Speaker 1: he was plugged into cer and wealthy benefactories. But the
Speaker 1: problem is, wealthy benefactors don't actually equal votes. Now, I
Speaker 1: understand that elections and campaigns take a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Every yard sign, every radio ad, every podcast ad, whatever
Speaker 1: that cost actual dollars. I understand that, Unfortunately, this is
Speaker 1: no longer the nineties, you know what I mean. This
Speaker 1: is no longer the day and age where people are
Speaker 1: gonna go with the identity of whose sign they have
Speaker 1: in their yard. Right now, it's about whose post you liked,
Speaker 1: what viral thing did you share to your feed? That's
Speaker 1: what wins this these days. And it's crazy that they're
Speaker 1: just now catching up to this. This was Aubrey Jewett,
Speaker 1: the jokes right themselves. That's almost say on that anyway,
Speaker 1: professor of political science at the University of Central Florida.
Speaker 1: She noted, however, that polling largely focused on how Nixon
Speaker 1: and Vindermann would respectively fair against Moody in a general election,
Speaker 1: rather than whether Democratic voters preferred Nixon or vindemin as
Speaker 1: their party's candidates. Shocker, They asked weird questions and got
Speaker 1: an answer they didn't expect. What is Florida ready for
Speaker 1: a Democratic socialist candidate to enter a general election? I
Speaker 1: personally don't think so. I still don't know the answer,
Speaker 1: said you Itt. But what this primary showed was that
Speaker 1: with the Democratic party base, there's a strong majority of
Speaker 1: progressive social Democrats in Florida, just like there apparently is
Speaker 1: across the country. Now, this is an interesting statement to
Speaker 1: bring up, so y'all could look up the statistics on this.
Speaker 1: They did a poll, and I understand polls are only
Speaker 1: as good as the organization that took them, right, Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: But with that being said, I've seen at least one
Speaker 1: poll that is saying that of the Democrats, of the Progressives,
Speaker 1: of the liberals, if you were to take a one
Speaker 1: hundred percent account of them, fifty three percent of the
Speaker 1: current people listed as Democrat are in favor of democratic socialism.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna break that down a little deeper. Over half
Speaker 1: of the Democratic voting base right now for the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party wants Marxism in the United States. If there was
Speaker 1: ever a time for y'all to actually start being worried,
Speaker 1: it is now. The time to worry is now, because
Speaker 1: this is how this starts. It's not just the people
Speaker 1: who are left of center. It's not just the screaming
Speaker 1: blue haired liberals in the far left doing there no, no, no,
Speaker 1: By and large, the entirety in grants that I understand that.
Speaker 1: Like I said, the poll is only as good as
Speaker 1: the group that took the poll. I get that. If
Speaker 1: that is true, if it's even half or even approaching
Speaker 1: half of the Democrats actually want socialism in the United States,
Speaker 1: it might be time to start either like staking your
Speaker 1: bets and like making sure that you bring up the
Speaker 1: next generation to understand what capitalism is and why it
Speaker 1: is so critical, and why America is the world's only
Speaker 1: superpower because of capitalism, And if you know any socialists,
Speaker 1: it's time to introduce them to a history book. That's
Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say on that. It's really now more
Speaker 1: than ever, it is time to introduce the people that
Speaker 1: act like Marxism is a great idea. It's time to
Speaker 1: introduce them to actual history books, teaching actual facts, not
Speaker 1: the skewed versions of And they need to answer the question,
Speaker 1: where has it ever worked before? And if you can't
Speaker 1: find one example, because there isn't one of where socialism
Speaker 1: or communism worked in another country, why do you think
Speaker 1: it would work in America? And they need to answer
Speaker 1: that question for themselves. And because they won't be able
Speaker 1: to because duh, one plus one does an equal five,
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to come to their own concl collusions
Speaker 1: when they get to a certain age, you know, when
Speaker 1: they get to a certain maturity level, I believe. But anyway,
Speaker 1: moving forward, or their acts like this chick who is
Speaker 1: the Democratic Socialist candidate, who clearly hasn't gained any maturity
Speaker 1: and is in the middle of the I'm sorry, in
Speaker 1: the middle of the Florida House Committee in a pink
Speaker 1: jumpsuit with a pink megaphone, screaming at everybody that you're
Speaker 1: out of order. I guess this, that's not time for
Speaker 1: the people are like, you know what, you're allowed enough,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna vote for you. It's like, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: time to actually grow up, people. It really is. Moving
Speaker 1: on here. Nixon's victory followed a series of primary wins
Speaker 1: for progressive candidates this summer, including in Philadelphia, Colorado, Michigan,
Speaker 1: and New York City. Shocker to all of those who
Speaker 1: could have ever seen liberal wins in these critical places, right,
Speaker 1: she only recently joined the Democratic Socialists of America and
Speaker 1: was not endorsed by them. That may all be a
Speaker 1: bit of a red flag if the party that she
Speaker 1: is like therefore doesn't want nothing to do with her. Yeap,
Speaker 1: just okay, But I'm not worried about it. I don't
Speaker 1: believe she's gonna win the election as of this moment.
Speaker 1: Moving on. She is also set to face trial next month,
Speaker 1: charged with trespassing and resisting an officer without violence after
Speaker 1: a sit in protest at the office of Ron DeSantis
Speaker 1: in May. So she staged a sit in at the
Speaker 1: governor's office, and she's already facing charges for that. I
Speaker 1: don't believe they're gonna like let that one slide. By
Speaker 1: especially analy she just clinched the vote. But okay, it
Speaker 1: remains to be seen how attractive Nixon will be to
Speaker 1: Florida's wider electorate in November. Again, the jokes right themselves.
Speaker 1: As Jewett notes, Florida is heavily populated by Hispanic communities,
Speaker 1: and Moody is certain to try to affix the socialist
Speaker 1: label to Nixon's campaign that has long proven toxic at
Speaker 1: ballot boxes for such voter groups. Yeah, most Hispanics do
Speaker 1: not get down with socialism, specifically the Cubans who inhabit
Speaker 1: a good chunk of Florida. Want you wanna piss off
Speaker 1: the Hispanic community, go ahead and tell them that you're
Speaker 1: in favor of communism or socialism.
Speaker 7: That that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not concerned with this one. I'm concerned with
Speaker 1: how the Democrats put her in as the nominee, not
Speaker 1: that she's about to win the Florida like that. No, no,
Speaker 1: she's not. But at the same time, there are places
Speaker 1: where this has happened, i e. New York City with
Speaker 1: Mom Donnie, which if there's ever a time for you
Speaker 1: to be more critical of Mom Donnie, dude, did y'all
Speaker 1: just see his video where he was speaking to the
Speaker 1: Chinese on behalf of being the mayor of a city.
Speaker 1: Why is the mayor of a city reaching out to
Speaker 1: another foreign nation. That's crazy. Governors of states don't even
Speaker 1: do that for the most part. Which to that point,
Speaker 1: there was a time when Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco was
Speaker 1: reaching out to Cuba and President to ask him for
Speaker 1: aid for things, and it was like you, You're like dumb.
Speaker 1: You're like really dumb. Why would you reach out to
Speaker 1: a Marxist country for aid as if they have aid
Speaker 1: to give? First off? Second off, you are the governor
Speaker 1: of a state. You reach out to other governors. You
Speaker 1: don't reach out to foreign powers. Fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: But all right? Moving on, the conservative commentator Noah Rothman,
Speaker 1: writing in National Review on Wednesday, went one step further,
Speaker 1: characterizing Nixon as a communist curious. I don't think she's
Speaker 1: curious about I think she's pretty much tintos down on it.
Speaker 1: Even if the race for Senate in Florida is now
Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion, this race will still feature prominently in
Speaker 1: the National conversation. He argued, why, because it demonstrates that
Speaker 1: Republicans are right when they warned that the socialist phenomenon
Speaker 1: is coming to a town near you. That is a fact.
Speaker 1: That is a fact. Nixon win leaves Democratic leaders in
Speaker 1: the US Senate in something of a quandary. Pollsters already
Speaker 1: appear to have concluded that Nixon's primary victory has limited
Speaker 1: Democrats chance of taking the seat.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Within hours of her fiery victory speech on Tuesday night,
Speaker 1: Sabado's crystal Ball, the respected analytical wing of the University
Speaker 1: of Virginia Center for Politics, moved the Florida Senate race
Speaker 1: from likely Republican to safe Republican. Yeah, this was a
Speaker 1: throwaway vote. It also leaves Democratic leaders in the US Senate,
Speaker 1: who publicly warmly welcome Nixon's win, in something of a quandary.
Speaker 1: While their path to reclaim and control of the upper
Speaker 1: chamber of their from Republicans was never predicated on success
Speaker 1: in Florida, Vindmann, as a moderate, was considered to have
Speaker 1: at least an outside shot of an upset. Accordingly, the
Speaker 1: party's hierarchy was prepared, preparing to send dollars in resources
Speaker 1: to bolster his campaign. Now with Bixon on the ticket,
Speaker 1: and now let's just expect a rethink. The Democratic establishment
Speaker 1: was more comfortable with vin Men he had a demonstrated
Speaker 1: track record of being able to raise money and Nixon
Speaker 1: does not. Because that's what it all comes down to,
Speaker 1: the almighty dollar bill, y'all. Florida has about one point
Speaker 1: five million registered Republican voters than Democrats. She nied it
Speaker 1: or more registered voters, so Florida has got one point
Speaker 1: five million on in favor of Republicans and Democrats. Nixon
Speaker 1: is really going to have her work cut out for
Speaker 1: her to show that she can raise money, or if
Speaker 1: she can't, to show that somehow they can recreate the
Speaker 1: success of the crassroots campaign that brought her victory here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see that, dude. Honestly, Nixon, who
Speaker 1: was reprimanded for using a bull horn on the Florida
Speaker 1: House floor earlier this year, does not care for inter
Speaker 1: internal party wrangling, and she has made one thing clear.
Speaker 1: She is unlikely to change tack as she presents herself
Speaker 1: to the wider statewide electorate before November. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think she's gonna change. She's gonna be dressed like a
Speaker 1: fucking clown with a with a horn just to piss
Speaker 1: people off. And act like. If you don't look at
Speaker 1: her like she's an equal, then you're clearly a bigot
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know if believing a mom should
Speaker 1: oh wow, here we go a mom. It's not because
Speaker 1: of her crazy antics. She's a mother. No one fucking
Speaker 1: asked about that. But all right. If believing a mom
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to work three jobs to keep a roof
Speaker 1: over her head is extreme, call me extreme. Ashley Moody
Speaker 1: can call me whatever she wants, but in November she'll
Speaker 1: be calling me Senator. No, she will not know, she
Speaker 1: will not. That's that's crazy work, crazy work to stay
Speaker 1: such a statement right there. But okay, and no, a
Speaker 1: mom shouldn't have to work three jobs keep a roof
Speaker 1: over her head? Fair? But I know tons of people
Speaker 1: myself in clouted, who for the majority of my adult life,
Speaker 1: have had to work two jobs to maintain what I have.
Speaker 1: So welcome to America. I don't know what to say here,
Speaker 1: I really don't. Anyway, I am going to check the
Speaker 1: chat real quick before I jump to the next item
Speaker 1: on the docket.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: Let's see, but ba ba supernatural, I'm one hundred percent
Speaker 1: on backed and I will circumcise there you go. Tristan's
Speaker 1: out here living that life. We're getting back to the
Speaker 1: cut and uncut thing, the whole all right, we're skipping
Speaker 1: ahead from the whole circumcision conversation. Here. Let's see, if
Speaker 1: they weren't born in America, they have no reason or
Speaker 1: right to be in our government, nor should they be
Speaker 1: able to vote. Agree, Let no foreigner become residents. If
Speaker 1: they are Commis or Islamic, they shouldn't be allowed to enter.
Speaker 1: If they do, immediately bagged and tagged to the black site. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of communism taking root in
Speaker 1: our country. And I used to think that was so stupid.
Speaker 1: I used to think, like, you mean, the Cold War
Speaker 1: was against an idea, against communism. What are we talking about?
Speaker 1: Like no, because because of like the Peristoika arrangement, right,
Speaker 1: and how communism is supposed to seep in at the
Speaker 1: very high lower levels and work its way up to
Speaker 1: the top, and they did that in so many nations.
Speaker 1: Like No, that's the thing. It is a virus, it
Speaker 1: is a cancer, and it is also the most deadly
Speaker 1: thought process that the human race has ever devised. Like
Speaker 1: and you could look this up by the numbers here,
Speaker 1: no other system or philosophy or whatever has killed more
Speaker 1: people in such a short amount of time than communism has,
Speaker 1: and it's by a large margin. I've talked about this before.
Speaker 1: I got into this argument with a friend of mine
Speaker 1: actually was my cousin, and we were talking about how
Speaker 1: she says Christianity has killed more people on planet Earth
Speaker 1: than any other ideal whatsoever. And by the numbers, that's
Speaker 1: true because if you know, we're going with that route,
Speaker 1: it's like four hundred million, seven hundred million. I forget
Speaker 1: what the number she quoted me was, but okay, yes,
Speaker 1: Christianity and we could say, like the Crusades, right, we
Speaker 1: talked about the Inquisitions, There's been a lot of things
Speaker 1: that people have done in the name of Christ that
Speaker 1: was wrong because it wasn't actually the name of Christ,
Speaker 1: but like they used the name of Christ to propagate
Speaker 1: their actions. I'm with you on this. If you look
Speaker 1: at the amount of people that communism has killed. Christianity,
Speaker 1: and we could be honest here, they didn't really get
Speaker 1: together in one set as far as what they believed
Speaker 1: until what four hundred a d four point fifty. They
Speaker 1: didn't actually become like the National religion of Rome until
Speaker 1: the three fifty three sixties a D. So all right, cool,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna be real generous here. We could say
Speaker 1: that seventeen hundred years of Christianity has killed that many
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions, and then go ahead and look at
Speaker 1: how many people have died as a result of Marxism
Speaker 1: in one hundred and seventy one hundred and eighty years
Speaker 1: that it's existed. You are, like, by the numbers, eleven
Speaker 1: times more likely to be killed because communism just exists
Speaker 1: out there than you are if you are facing the
Speaker 1: entirety of Christendom when we're on the war path, you
Speaker 1: are eleven times more likely to be killed because Marxism exists.
Speaker 1: I know, it's a crazy statistic. Do your math on this.
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing. So yes, to say that democratic socialists
Speaker 1: and Marxists are taking in on the whole political spectrum
Speaker 1: in the United States, I am a little worry, y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned. I'm not ashamed to say that.
Speaker 1: But all right, moving forward here, Personally, I think we
Speaker 1: should close the borders completely for ten years. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a problem with that. Actually, I think that'd be a
Speaker 1: really good move. Mitch can't even spell constitution. No, she can't, No,
Speaker 1: she can't. Dude, sounds like a character that has been
Speaker 1: propped up by Soro's family. Dude, Yeah, I would not
Speaker 1: be shocked if the under a million dollars that she
Speaker 1: was able to rays absolutely came from Soarus's wallet. I
Speaker 1: could see him. Blazarian lost and Fishbeck lost in Florida,
Speaker 1: but Blazarian had a very strange drop in live vote
Speaker 1: count during counting. I heard about this. I didn't do
Speaker 1: any digging into this, Tony. So if you want to
Speaker 1: clarify what you mean with the whole Blazarian in Fishbeck situation,
Speaker 1: I would appreciate it.
Speaker 13: Okay, Yeah, Fishback, I didn't see anything funny happening. He
Speaker 13: was running for governor primary candidate against Byron Donalds, and
Speaker 13: Byron Donald's got a way higher share of the vote.
Speaker 13: Fishback got like ten percent. I think he was Fishback
Speaker 13: was third, but he's the best on Twitter. Bilzarian was
Speaker 13: running in Florida sixth district against Randy Fine and you
Speaker 13: may recognize that name. He is super Jewish, supermanus. He's
Speaker 13: called Palestinians demons on Twitter and lots of other rhetorics
Speaker 13: like that.
Speaker 1: Because I'm joking. I'm joking, I'm joking.
Speaker 13: Kilians Read is probably even more extreme in the opposite direction.
Speaker 13: And man, yeah, Israel was just so huge in this campaign.
Speaker 13: But Bilsarian I think he got nineteen thousand votes, and
Speaker 13: Fine got like fifty thousand or something, so it was
Speaker 13: still pretty big victory. But as the trend was going,
Speaker 13: the live vote count, Bilsarian was up to eight thousand
Speaker 13: and then suddenly it dropped to six thousand, and nobody
Speaker 13: knows why, but everyone's pointing and going, oh, see, fraud,
Speaker 13: they took it away. I don't know what the hell
Speaker 13: happened there, but it's suspicious as hell, Like so many
Speaker 13: things these days.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why Israel is being brought up for
Speaker 1: state elections. What is a governor going to do in
Speaker 1: the way of Israel.
Speaker 13: Well, in the sixth district, maybe there's a lot of
Speaker 13: Jews there. I know there's a lot of Jews in Florida.
Speaker 13: That must be an issue that resonates a lot. But anyway,
Speaker 13: one thing that's going to work against Donald's is he's black,
Speaker 13: and a lot of Hispanics do not like black so much.
Speaker 13: And that's also going to be working against this lady.
Speaker 13: We were just talking about Nixon. I already forgot her
Speaker 13: first name.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 13: She's not going to want Nixon, sure, but yeah, she
Speaker 13: got the left of the Democratic Party to vote for her,
Speaker 13: and I don't think she'll win in the general and
Speaker 13: she's got, you know, her extremism working against her and
Speaker 13: being black. Vinman is Jewish, by the way, of course,
Speaker 13: is yeah, he was. He was the one trying to
Speaker 13: testify to impeach Trump in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty,
Speaker 13: and he said the inter Agency already decided that we
Speaker 13: needed to support Ukraine. And who's this Trump guy think
Speaker 13: he is to come along and try to put strings
Speaker 13: on some of the support that we give to Ukraine,
Speaker 13: strings that didn't even end up being attached anyway.
Speaker 1: But that's all I'm saying. No matter what, if he
Speaker 1: helps Ukraine, he's horrible for it. If he doesn't help Ukraine,
Speaker 1: then he's horrible for it, no matter what you like, haters,
Speaker 1: no matter what.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I was related to Barisma and Hunter Biden.
Speaker 1: Yes, sure, yes, it's a mess.
Speaker 13: Yeah, So that I think rounds up everything we need
Speaker 13: to know about Florida today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. Aside from her race, which, to be honest,
Speaker 1: I didn't think played much of a faction in this one,
Speaker 1: just her being a Democratic socialist who, even if the
Speaker 1: Democrats really do want that dude, Florida is outweighed with
Speaker 1: the Republicans on this, I don't think she's gonna make
Speaker 1: a whole lot of difference in the election. So I
Speaker 1: agree with you on that point. Regardless why boy Wizard
Speaker 1: says that everyone has gone full retard? Bro, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is happening out there? I wish I could answer you, Tristan.
Speaker 1: I wish I could give you a legitimate answer as
Speaker 1: to why so many people have lost their goddamn minds.
Speaker 1: But somehow, somehow, we're just We're just out here. People
Speaker 1: are just out here fucking about just the only thing.
Speaker 13: I think Don was talking to Chinese speakers in his district.
Speaker 13: He wasn't talking to communists China people do political ads
Speaker 13: in Spanish all the time. They're talking to people who
Speaker 13: already live here.
Speaker 1: Are we sure about that? I just saw the clip
Speaker 1: earlier today. It seemed like he was trying to reach
Speaker 1: out to Chinese people in China the same way that
Speaker 1: old John Cena did it.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I should have looked at the at the translation.
Speaker 13: I only understood the first few words when he said
Speaker 13: I don't actually spease, but his accent was better than
Speaker 13: mine is he said, whoa, which I mean I don't
Speaker 13: actually speak Chinese.
Speaker 1: That's nothing new, dude. Have you seen him do his
Speaker 1: phase change when he was speaking to that person from Uganda?
Speaker 13: Uh No, I didn't see that.
Speaker 1: So you know his mama was big with the Hollywood
Speaker 1: industry right. Allegedly he helped what's the somebody who's more
Speaker 1: in tune with the Marvel universe helped me out here.
Speaker 1: There was a Disney movie that was like a spin
Speaker 1: off of Black Panther. It was something super Wakanda and
Speaker 1: mom Donnie was apparently one of the liaisons for this.
Speaker 1: And as he's speaking to this woman who's from Africa,
Speaker 1: you could tell that he starts to do this thing
Speaker 1: with his accent where he goes its own to blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. Cut too. He's in New York and he's
Speaker 1: speaking regular American English. He does phase changing like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: So to see him also throw on some some Mandarin
Speaker 1: was like, all right, bro' you're the mayor of a city.
Speaker 1: You're not even a governor. You're not a state senator.
Speaker 1: You're the mayor of a city, a massive one. I'll
Speaker 1: give you that, but you're like, stop that.
Speaker 13: Okay, I looked it up. What he said is, hello,
Speaker 13: my name is zorimm Donnie. I don't know Chinese, but
Speaker 13: I want to try. The New York City government is
Speaker 13: giving away more than two thousand Broadway performance tickets for free.
Speaker 13: That's apparently what he said. So it's not to people
Speaker 13: in China. It's two people here or people in New
Speaker 13: York City.
Speaker 1: Why would he give a statement to say they're giving
Speaker 1: away free Broadway tickets in Chinese?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Is he trying to make the Chinese people go to
Speaker 1: Broadway more often? Well?
Speaker 13: Do you remember in twenty twelve when John Huntsman was
Speaker 13: running for the Republican primary and he knew Chinese, and
Speaker 13: he dropped some Chinese randomly in the debate, he'd said,
Speaker 13: uh to oo took a Chin sheen, which means he
Speaker 13: doesn't This candidate over here doesn't understand the situation.
Speaker 1: And I don't remember this.
Speaker 13: My wife's grandparents, who are Chinese, said, oh, he speaks
Speaker 13: of Chinese.
Speaker 4: What'd he name?
Speaker 13: That was exact words. That's all they need to know.
Speaker 13: Here are a couple of Chinese words, and they vote.
Speaker 13: They would vote for him, probably fair enough.
Speaker 1: Some of Donnie just putting something out there. It's it's again,
Speaker 1: it's like phase changing. He's throwing it out there to
Speaker 1: gain the support from that. Now. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the Chinese population of New York is. I know that
Speaker 1: Kathy Hochel had a Chinese spy in her cabinet. So
Speaker 1: did old governor before her. I forget his name. He's
Speaker 1: a cuck. Him and his brother both I forget. But Cuomo,
Speaker 1: that's the one, old Beita boy. He also had a
Speaker 1: Chinese spine in his administration. Then you had the secret
Speaker 1: Chinese police station that was bagging and tagging Chinese citizens
Speaker 1: in New York. That was a thing. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But the fact that Mom Donnie is dropping that with
Speaker 1: all of that controversy, that is pretty fresh in the
Speaker 1: mind of people. It's not a good look. Although he
Speaker 1: may have gained some Chinese support, Chinese people are very
Speaker 1: pro Marxism, so I mean him being a socialist and
Speaker 1: speaking the Chinese. I mean it might have solidified his
Speaker 1: next election. I don't know.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, okay, get this. According to the Google AI Overview,
Speaker 13: approximately six hundred thousand people speak Chinese in New York City,
Speaker 13: making it the second most common non English language after Spanish.
Speaker 13: I did not know better than you probably expect it, right,
Speaker 13: it's bigger than I expected. I knew there were Chinese
Speaker 13: people there, I didn't know it was that many.
Speaker 1: I definitely knew that China Town existed there. I did
Speaker 1: not know it was over half a million, let alone
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand. So okay, okay, fair play. I also
Speaker 1: don't think that that was a smart move, but maybe
Speaker 1: it was. I don't know the political spectrum when it
Speaker 1: comes to Manhattan, you know what I mean? Maybe, like
Speaker 1: I said, maybe this that one move just now secured
Speaker 1: his next victory. It's very possible.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think it was a smart move. And his
Speaker 13: accent wasn't horrible. Remember when Elliott Spitzer tried to say
Speaker 13: something in Spanish and I think so it was about
Speaker 13: COVID and SNL parodied him. His Spanish was like Peggy
Speaker 13: Hill Spanish. It was horrible.
Speaker 1: Substitute teacher, I fucking love it. And she thought that
Speaker 1: she was like fluent. It was. Peggy was, oh my god.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's move on. I see another
Speaker 1: one in the chat here. Guys, I need to sleep.
Speaker 1: You'll have a good night. Don's rays. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us for a bit here. All right
Speaker 1: with that, let's get on to the next topic of discussion. Here,
Speaker 1: alri played that one. This is an interesting one. Here
Speaker 1: a medical supply company submitted one point four two billion
Speaker 1: in fraudulent claims, and Ohioman admits laundering three point four
Speaker 1: million dollars. Let's talk about this here. So the medical
Speaker 1: supply company submitted one point four billion dollars in false
Speaker 1: and fraudulent health insurance claims, and this Ohioman admitted to
Speaker 1: helping move millions of dollars generated by the operation through
Speaker 1: US banks. LDR Zarbevel forty five of Pepper Pike pleaded
Speaker 1: guilty to one count of money laundering after facilitating approximately
Speaker 1: three point four million in healthcare fraud proceeds for a
Speaker 1: transactional criminal organization. A transactional criminal organization, federal prosecutors say,
Speaker 1: the organization based in Russia and elsewhere. What what that's
Speaker 1: crazy work? But okay, was behind a massive operation targeting
Speaker 1: Medicare and private health insurers. Z Our Babel zar Babel
Speaker 1: doesn't matter helped that access the US financial system by
Speaker 1: opening bank accounts in Northeast Ohio for Royce Medical Supply
Speaker 1: LLC damn it Royce, a Federal of Florida durable medical
Speaker 1: equipment company. Interesting over just what the hail? Of course?
Speaker 1: I have to ads, I swear just over two months
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, is our bevel facilitated the deposit
Speaker 1: transfer and withdraw roughly three point four million dollars in
Speaker 1: fraud proceedings proceeds. Excuse me? He is now the sixteenth
Speaker 1: person convicted in Operation gold Rush, which the Justice Departments
Speaker 1: describes as the largest healthcare fraud case it has ever prosecuted. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm loving it. I'm loving it. Royce Medical Supply became
Speaker 1: one piece of a far larger network of durable medical
Speaker 1: equipment companies used by the organization. Between July twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two and July twenty twenty four, the organization submitted approximately
Speaker 1: one point four million in false and fraudulent claims. Talked
Speaker 1: about that already the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services
Speaker 1: suspended reimbursement on nearly all of those claims, but some
Speaker 1: were still paid. The successful reimbursement created another challenge for
Speaker 1: the organization, getting the fraud proceeds into the US financial
Speaker 1: system and moving the money elsewhere. So, long story short,
Speaker 1: Ja boy was able to get in there and make
Speaker 1: it look legitimate. I'm just saying he faces up to
Speaker 1: twenty years in prison. Here he helped provide that financial
Speaker 1: access for Royce medical supply. Court records say he opened
Speaker 1: accounts for the Florida Company at banks in Northeast Ohio.
Speaker 1: We already talked, why is it repeating everything? This article
Speaker 1: is repeated the same thing over and over again. The
Speaker 1: money laundering A count carries a maximum potential sentence of
Speaker 1: twenty years in federal prison. His actual punishment will be
Speaker 1: determined by a federal judge after consideration of federal sentencing
Speaker 1: guy lines and other statutory factors. Federal authorities say thirty
Speaker 1: five people have now been charged through Operation gold Rush.
Speaker 1: He is the sixteenth. Okay, well there we have that
Speaker 1: all right. Next thing on the docket, A jury comes
Speaker 1: to a unanimous ruling in the sig Sour unintended discharge
Speaker 1: case for any of you that don't know what this is,
Speaker 1: I'll explain, but let's watch the video first.
Speaker 3: A federal jury says there were no defects in the
Speaker 3: six hour p.
Speaker 8: Three twenty.
Speaker 3: It comes in the case of an unintended discharge of
Speaker 3: a firearm. The jury considered product liability, negligence, and breach
Speaker 3: of implied warranty and rolled unanimously in favor of six Sour.
Speaker 3: The case follows the dismissal of a class action lawsuit
Speaker 3: against six Sour.
Speaker 1: Okay, for those that have not been keeping up with it,
Speaker 1: I brought it up on a couple of different shows.
Speaker 1: Six Sour is a phenomenal firearms manufacturer. In my humble opinion,
Speaker 1: the six hour p. Three twenty. It is a model
Speaker 1: of pistol that was made, and there has been not one,
Speaker 1: not two, not dozens. There have been unknown numbers. I
Speaker 1: would say it's over one hundred just in the last
Speaker 1: year that have come forward of this particular pistol firing
Speaker 1: when nobody pulled the trigger. Like that's a whole statement, right,
Speaker 1: Guns don't kill people. You could set a gun right now,
Speaker 1: I have one in my hand, boom. I could set
Speaker 1: this pistol on the table and I know for a
Speaker 1: fact this weapon is not going to fire on its own. Apparently,
Speaker 1: with the sick P three twenty, that is not a
Speaker 1: true statement, and they have had many people, many YouTube
Speaker 1: videos have gone out of people showing how this has happened. Basically,
Speaker 1: the slide is pulled back ever so slightly, it freezes
Speaker 1: up the trigger and it can fire and it's dangerous
Speaker 1: as hell. But apparently the jury has come to a
Speaker 1: unanimous ruling that that's not the case. Never mind the evidence,
Speaker 1: never mind that they could bring a P three twenty
Speaker 1: into the courtroom with a blank round to demonstrate what
Speaker 1: this is. Never mind, all of that doesn't matter. Money
Speaker 1: was exchanged and tada. Now, all of a sudden, sig
Speaker 1: has been acquitted of all of the charges. However, no one,
Speaker 1: no one in the right mind, is allowing this. Hell,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a single firearm range around me
Speaker 1: that will allow you to shoot your P three twenty. There.
Speaker 1: I don't know many weapons that are against the law
Speaker 1: or against the rules of the firing range for you
Speaker 1: to bring in and shoot. As far as pistols are concerned,
Speaker 1: I know for a fact that they don't allow to
Speaker 1: say P three twenty. Do with that information what you want,
Speaker 1: you know. Anyway, I thought it was interesting enough to
Speaker 1: bring it up. This to Energy up four percent after
Speaker 1: billionaire Peter Teal by steak in an Argentine shale oil producer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this. Peter Teal is doing his shit again.
Speaker 1: Oil producer Vista Energy jumped in pre market on Monday
Speaker 1: after it was revealed that billionaire Peter Teal's hedge fund
Speaker 1: had acquired a stake in the Argentine company Piil. Macro
Speaker 1: LLC reported that it owned almost one point two million
Speaker 1: American depository shares of This to Energy, worth about seventy
Speaker 1: six million dollars as of the second quarter ending in
Speaker 1: on June thirtieth. According to a US Securities and Exchange
Speaker 1: Commission filings published on Friday, This to Energy was last
Speaker 1: seen up nearly four point three percent in pre market
Speaker 1: trading on Monday. Reason for this, I understand y'all might
Speaker 1: be asking, why are they up so high? Why is
Speaker 1: that happening? Because a wealthy benefactor has bought up a
Speaker 1: bunch of shares and given in a new evaluation, which
Speaker 1: is why it has gone to this level. And if
Speaker 1: y'all understand how that works. It's the same conversation to like,
Speaker 1: how you know Elon Musk apparently is the first world
Speaker 1: the world's first trillionaire. Not actually, y'all, not actually. Let
Speaker 1: me put it like this. I heard the Federal lectricshould
Speaker 1: make this description, and it's a really good one. Let's
Speaker 1: say you own your house outright, and you get some
Speaker 1: wealthy billionaire to come in and say, hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: buy one one thousandth of your home for a million dollars.
Speaker 1: You could live there, you could do whatever you want
Speaker 1: with it. But I'm gonna own one percent of the
Speaker 1: equity in your home for a million dollars. All right, Cool.
Speaker 1: Then he's gonna bring in a bunch of his really
Speaker 1: wealthy buddies to come in and buy other shares of
Speaker 1: your house for a million dollars a share. Now, on paper,
Speaker 1: your house is worth a billion dollars. Could you sell
Speaker 1: your house for a billion dollars? No, not a fucking chance.
Speaker 1: That's not how this works. Shares have been evaluated at
Speaker 1: that much. That does not mean that that's the actual
Speaker 1: worth of the asset. The same has happened when it
Speaker 1: comes to SpaceX. The same has happened when it comes
Speaker 1: to all these crazy evaluations. When you get a wealthy
Speaker 1: person to come in and give it a crazy evaluation
Speaker 1: to boost their own income and their profit margins. Sure,
Speaker 1: the overall might be evaluated at this amount, you could
Speaker 1: liquidate the entire company. You're not gonna get that. So,
Speaker 1: just so we're clear, when you look at stocks and
Speaker 1: how percentages up and down and left and right, go
Speaker 1: understand that pretty much at that level, money is fairy dust.
Speaker 1: It's not real. It's a it's a thing to be
Speaker 1: fucked around with. It's not a thing to be used
Speaker 1: to better yourself. Right, Just so we're all clear here.
Speaker 1: This Wastel's Fun's second largest disclosed position after Amazon. One
Speaker 1: of theeld Macro owned four hundred and ninety five thousand
Speaker 1: shares valued at about one hundred and eighteen million. It
Speaker 1: also held sizable stakes in several US firms in the
Speaker 1: energy and power sector. Six of the funds seven new
Speaker 1: positions disclosed in the filing are in energy or utility companies.
Speaker 1: This includes American Electrical Power, DTE Energy, First Energy, CMS Energy, Vistra,
Speaker 1: and x Energy. According to the filing, this is the
Speaker 1: largest independent energy company in Argentina, operating out of Vaka
Speaker 1: Muerta probably mispronounced is Fine, where it develops shale oil.
Speaker 1: It is invested over six point five billion dollars in Argentina.
Speaker 1: THEOL recently relocated from the United States with his family
Speaker 1: to Argentina's capital of Buenos Aires, where he bought a mansion. Obviously,
Speaker 1: since arriving in Argentina in April, thel has also met
Speaker 1: several seniors members of President Javier Malay's government, including Economy
Speaker 1: Minister Louise Caputo uh Deregulation Minister fredericro uh Sturson sturzenager
Speaker 1: Sturs and Yup and president presidential advisor Santiago Capudo Okay.
Speaker 1: Earlier this year, THEO also met with Malay, who has
Speaker 1: pursued sweeping economic reforms aimed at attracting foreign investment. Looks
Speaker 1: like it worked, particularly into the country's nation natural resources
Speaker 1: such as oil, rare earth minerals, and lithium. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: crazy old dude with the chainsaw apparently has done his
Speaker 1: job and he brought in wealthy benefactors to start investing
Speaker 1: in Argentina. Before we wrap, I did think this is
Speaker 1: an interesting one to bring up apparently an Frank betrayal
Speaker 1: suspect has now been identified after seventy seven years. We'll
Speaker 1: love to get your's take on this and let's learn together.
Speaker 23: Well, this is a question that's plagued historians ever since
Speaker 23: the end of the Second World War? Who was it
Speaker 23: that betrayed the family of Anne Frank to the Nazis?
Speaker 23: And died in a concentration camp in nineteen forty five
Speaker 23: at the age of fifteen after two years in hiding
Speaker 23: in Amsterdam. Her diary, published after her death, is probably
Speaker 23: the most famous first hand account of Jewish life during
Speaker 23: the war. Using new investigative techniques, detectives have revealed the
Speaker 23: identity of the man who's thought to have betrayed the
Speaker 23: Frank family. Anna Holligan reports now from Amsterdam.
Speaker 19: The final entry in Anne Frank's diary Tuesday, the first
Speaker 19: of August nineteen forty four. I keep trying to find
Speaker 19: a way to become what I'd like to be and
Speaker 19: what I could be if if only there were no
Speaker 19: other people in the world, yours, Ann M. Frank. Three
Speaker 19: days later, the Jewish teenager was arrested. This was the
Speaker 19: Frank family's hiding place during the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands,
Speaker 19: and this question of who betrayed the Frank family, who'd
Speaker 19: lived in this building undetected for more than two years
Speaker 19: until just months before the end of the war, has
Speaker 19: remained one of the great mysteries of Dutch history. And
Speaker 19: now this team of investigators have identified a man who
Speaker 19: they believe is the key suspect, a Jewish lawyer who'd
Speaker 19: been based here in Amsterdam helping Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi Germany.
Speaker 19: No DNA clues or video images existed, so the detectives
Speaker 19: relied on circumstantial evidence and a note.
Speaker 12: The final suspect became the person who sent Ann, who
Speaker 12: was named in an anonymous note sent to Otto Frank
Speaker 12: shortly after he got back from the Camp Auschwitz, in
Speaker 12: which a man called Vandenburgh was identified as the betrayer.
Speaker 19: Otto Frank was Ann's father and the only member of
Speaker 19: the family to survive the war. The suggestion that the
Speaker 19: betrayer appears to be someone from within the Jewish community
Speaker 19: is hard for many to bear. The historic context is
Speaker 19: critical here.
Speaker 12: As it turns out, it's a story of a man
Speaker 12: who was cornered and in order to save himself, his wife,
Speaker 12: his children from the gas chambers.
Speaker 19: While there is still a degree of skepticism that we
Speaker 19: may never know the true identity of the betrayer, this
Speaker 19: tale serves as a warning, a lesson of what humanity
Speaker 19: may be capable of in its darkest time. Yet another way,
Speaker 19: Anne Frank's legacy remains alive. Anna Holligen, BBC News, Amsterdam.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it was a Jewish lawyer that sold out
Speaker 1: the family according to the more recent information. Ah, okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough. I didn't know that. Very interesting. Before we
Speaker 1: actually go away, I would like to play this video
Speaker 1: real quick. It's talking about the United States troops leaving Iraq.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like it's a weird one for
Speaker 1: us to end on. But at the same time, let's
Speaker 1: see what's.
Speaker 24: Up about to end a twenty three year military presence
Speaker 24: in Iraq. But here's the real question. Is America leaving
Speaker 24: Iraq or beginning to leave the Middle East? Because those
Speaker 24: are two very different things. By September thirtieth, Washington says
Speaker 24: all remaining US forces will be out of Iraq, completing
Speaker 24: a withdrawal agreed with Bagdad back in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 24: Most American troops already left bases elsewhere in the country.
Speaker 24: The remaining presence has been concentrated in Iraqi Kurdistan. Officially,
Speaker 24: the explanation is straightforward. Isis has lost its territorial caliphate,
Speaker 24: and Washington believes Iraqi forces, including the Peesh sh America
Speaker 24: can now lead the remaining counter terrorism fight. But then
Speaker 24: came the Iran War, and suddenly the strategic calculation looked
Speaker 24: very different. Iranian missiles and drones demonstrated that America's enormous
Speaker 24: fixed military infrastructure across the Gulf was no longer untouchable.
Speaker 24: US military facilities in Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, the UAE, and
Speaker 24: elsewhere came under Iranian attack, while bases in Iraqi Kurdistan
Speaker 24: were repeatedly targeted. So the Iran War didn't create the
Speaker 24: Iraq withdrawal, it reinforced the logic behind a lighter American footprint.
Speaker 24: But does that mean Washington is abandoning the Middle East?
Speaker 24: Not even close. America still possesses a vast military network
Speaker 24: across Katar, Kuwait, Bahrain, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan,
Speaker 24: protecting airspace, shipping lanes, energy infrastructure, and some of the
Speaker 24: world's most important choke points. This is withdrawal from Iraq,
Speaker 24: not withdrawal from the Middle East. And here's where it
Speaker 24: gets interesting, because as America reduces its direct footprint, regional
Speaker 24: states are beginning to build security structures of their own.
Speaker 24: On August seventh, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Pakistan signed the
Speaker 24: Mecca Joint Defense Agreement, declaring that an armed attack on
Speaker 24: one would be treated as an attack on all three.
Speaker 24: Turkey says the alliance could eventually expand, with Egypt already
Speaker 24: publicly floated as a potential member. At the same time,
Speaker 24: Gulf governments are exploring a bigger diplomatic role for China
Speaker 24: while other outside powers compete for influence. So watch what
Speaker 24: is actually happening. America isn't disappearing, it is becoming less
Speaker 24: dominant as the region's sole security manager. Regional powers are
Speaker 24: building their own deterrence, Global powers are competing around them,
Speaker 24: and the Middle East may be shifting from an American
Speaker 24: led security order to a system where Washington is still
Speaker 24: the biggest player, but no longer the only game in town.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that actually lines up with what I believe
Speaker 1: is going to be going down here As far as
Speaker 1: the Middle East is concerned. I don't think that America
Speaker 1: is going to be losing. We're not. We've heard multiple
Speaker 1: people say that, you know, the American troops are all
Speaker 1: going to be out of the Middle East in the
Speaker 1: next few years. That's I don't believe this at all.
Speaker 1: The Middle East, of the Middle East, they always got
Speaker 1: some ship popping off there. There's always going to be
Speaker 1: US troops at least on some of these bases. If
Speaker 1: for nothing else, just have you know, forces at the ready,
Speaker 1: so to speak, pulling out of a rock. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. The iron situation is still doing its thing.
Speaker 1: It would be the first time America's gone back on
Speaker 1: its word throwing that out. But I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what y'all think about this
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