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and again, thank you so much for your support. Talking

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about the failure of the cramnibus or the continuing resolution

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omnibus cram job. So it's all just a cramnibus or cramdibusted.

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We're just gonna keep adding prefixes and suffixes or suffices

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onto the word, and sooner or later it'll become as

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long as anti disestablishmentarianism, Hellyan says. UH speaker Mike Johnson

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also said that this is not a continuing resolution. Johnson

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is a worm. Why can't we find another gingridge? I

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would love Chip Roy. I've seen I got a message

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or a tweet here from the carnivore Kurmudgeon. It's a

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pee tweet, he says, Pete. Let's just cut out the

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mintal Man I suggest they choose Elon Musk for Speaker

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of the House.

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Speaker 1: I don't now, I think yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think Elon is well positioned to do what he

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is doing right by being outside of the government, he

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doesn't have to give up his holdings, he doesn't have

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to stop doing the business and stuff that he does, like,

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he can still do all of that stuff that he

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needs to be doing. That's why they did not make

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the Department of Government Efficiency DOGE. That's why they did

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not make it an actual government agency, because if you

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do that, then he's got to go through confirmation, he's

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got to have all of the disclosures, he's got to

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divest himself of all sorts of his investments and just

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this is now just like purely advisory. But he's got

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a pretty big stick, you know, with being a multi

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billionaire and all and able to fund campaigns against people.

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And by the way, I do note the irony that

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people on the left are now super concerned about billionaires.

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I saw Bernie Sanders, of course, the millionaire Bernie Sanders,

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from one of his million dollar mansions, probably tweeting out

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stuff about and all of Glaukey and how Elon Musk

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is now running the government and all of that. Meanwhile,

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you had Alex Sorows, son of George Sorows, posting pictures

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of all of the trophies from his you know, multimillion

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dollar penthouse where he had all of these democrats come in,

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kiss the ring, take pictures and then he would post

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them like trophies on a wall of all like the

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governor Tim Wallas, he had, Chuck Schumer, he had, I

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mean everybody, I think Harris went to bit like all

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these people went to go visit him, and then he

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would post pictures of their meetings. And I'm supposed to

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believe that he has no influence over Democrats spending priorities.

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And the kicker on this is is that what is

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it that Elon Musk is actually advocating?

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Speaker 1: What is he trying to actually do? Well?

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Speaker 2: Glad you asked, I have two clips. He made himself

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very clear in appearances way before the cram nebusted came

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down the line.

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Speaker 3: There's certainly a lot of work for a Department of

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Governor efficiency, and there will be immense opposition obviously to

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making government efficient from entrenched interests that currently benefit from

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you know, sucking away vast amounts of taxpayer money. They

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will not like the fact that I'm not getting it anymore.

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They will fight tooth and nail. So but it's got

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to be done. And like I said, we're gonna aim to,

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you know, reduce government spending, get government out of people's

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lives as much as possible, and restore freedom and liberty.

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Speaker 1: My god, he's a tyrant. Holy cow. Wait wait, hang

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on a second. Did he just say he's.

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Speaker 2: Going to get government out of our lives and let

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us keep all of our money or more of our money?

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That well, wait a minute, that that doesn't sound very

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tyrannical at all. At another appearance, he made the point

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that a lot of people refuse to accept as true.

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Speaker 3: We have to reduce federal spending. There's no way to

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make up for it other than reducing the federal spending.

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And as I mentioned earlier, like a very important point

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that I think is important for people to understand is

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that all federal spending is taxation. Because what is not

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what they don't receive, what federal compan doesn't receive in

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direct revenue, they make up for in inflation. They just

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print money. So old federal spending is taxation. Very important principle.

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Almost nobody, very few people seem taught even like, you know,

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somebody's like spend their life in economics. I'll mention to them, hey,

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all spending, old federal spending is taxation. They're like, first

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they'll argue with me, and they're like, then they will

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agree it is because it is either direct tax revenue

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or it is inflation. Old federal spending is taxation. So

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we must reduce federal spending or we will go bankrupt

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as a country.

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Speaker 1: That's it very clear.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Elon Musk to the fight that I have been

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waging for twenty years, albeit with far less money and influence.

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But yeah, this is the number one issue, but nobody

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knows or wants to deal with it. No one knows

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how to deal with it. And he's He's like, it's

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very simple. We have to reduce the federal spending or

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we go bankrupt as a country. That's the path we're on.

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You increase revenue or decrease spending, and we can't increase

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revenue quote unquote without taxation.

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Speaker 1: Like that's it.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept

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for people to understand. Let me get over to John Hello, John,

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Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 4: Hi Pete, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm good. What's up?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: I had two provisions of that bill that I've actually

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looked at, kind of screened. We have actually a department

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that's called the Secondary of Commerce for Travel and Tourism,

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and they have money in this bill, but I couldn't

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find out how much. But their specific goal is to

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identify locations and events in the US important to music tourism,

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and to facilitate and promote domestic travel and tourism in

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these locations and events. I didn't even know we had

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such a deal.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that movie Dave with Kevin Klein, right

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where he's the look alike for the president and the

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real president has a stroke, is incapacitated, so they swamp

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them out, right. So do you remember where he's sitting

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around with his cabinet members and they're going over the

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programs to look for funding. And there was the one thing.

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It was like a promotional ad campaign for I think

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it was car manufacturers.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, so, let me get it straight, Like we're.

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Speaker 2: Spending money on a on a marketing campaign to make

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people feel good about the cars they've already bought.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's kind of along the lines of this.

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they're putting in more money for farmers to promote ethanol production.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 5: That sounds like a.

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Speaker 2: Little well look no, that's a come on man. That's

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rule number one in government lobbying. The ethanol lobbyists always

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get paid, They always make their money.

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Speaker 1: Ethanol is always in the mix.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, well again, I stand over most of the document.

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Speaker 7: Those are a couple of things I've picked up.

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Speaker 5: On, and I hope that you keep exposing all the

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stuff that's going on in there.

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Speaker 7: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well.

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing too, I don't know if it's

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now worth the effort to keep going through the bill

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because the it it is apparently now dead. I don't

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know what form it's going to take if they try

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to run something through before tomorrow. Hopefully it's just a

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clean CR a continuing resolution that just says what we're

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spending now, We're going to keep spending through March and

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then come back and do the budget appropriations correctly. I

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don't know, we'll see, but you'll see.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, thanks for your time.

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Speaker 8: Being Yeah, great day YouTube.

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Speaker 2: John appreciate the call. Yeah, John is exactly right on

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those two different provisions. One was for the music tourism. Okay,

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we're gonna spend money to tell people that there's American

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music and you should go visit places and listen to music,

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or something like to go visit the country music Hall

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of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Why is that on the.

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Speaker 2: Federal tax payers to promote your industry. That should be

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something that the industry is promoting. Right, you're gonna go

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and open the country music Hall of Fame or a

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bluegrass Hall of Fame, or an R and B Hall

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of Fame. I mean, I could really do this all

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day with all the different musical genres. But like you're

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gonna go you want to set up one of these

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halls of fame, then that's on you to market that

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and maybe you get some states to help you out,

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because of course states will do that to increase tourism.

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Speaker 1: They've got tourism funds. That that's a different question.

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Speaker 2: The federal government should not be doing this why because

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that means the federal government is picking winners and losers,

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not just states where these halls of fame may be located.

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But also types of music. Do we want the federal

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Do you really want congress people deciding or bureaucrats deciding

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which musical taste should be marketed?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I have no idea with it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to see ads for smooth jazz during

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the Super Bowl.

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dot com, fellow by the name of Bonci, says, the

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thing with passing a clean CR is that it's likely

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to pass the Senate as well. Mansion and Cinema and

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maybe even Fetterman would likely vote for it. This is

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a wide open three pointer, staring the GOP in the face.

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Take the shot right, Just pass a clean continuing resolution,

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which doesn't have to even be that that long, like

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a page a paragraph. I got a message here from

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Russ who says it feels silly, but in my naivete

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I don't understand why a CR can't be a single

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sentence saying like, we will continue current funding levels until

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whatever date, right, Like, That's that's how simple this can be.

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And if you want to do a disaster relief bill,

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then run that as a separate bill also, or even

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just tack that on and then make Democrats vote against it.

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Speaker 1: So first hour, I walk.

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Speaker 2: Through how we got here where it started. On Tuesday,

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late afternoon fifteen hundred page bill gets dropped and they're like,

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all right, everybody, don't read it, and we're going to vote.

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And then of course Republicans start reading through they're like,

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what the heck is all of this stuff in here?

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And media starts reporting on the provisions. There's a whole

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bunch of stupid stuff in there, and the backlash begins

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an all day yesterday on Twitter, you can see the

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anger building and building. At about one point fifteen yesterday,

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Elon Musk tweets out, any member of the House or

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Senate who votes for this outrageous spending bill deserves to

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be voted out in two years. About an hour and

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a half later, he says, in response to a tweet

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from Thomas Massey agreeing with him, that all government spending

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is taxation. The government either taxes you directly or by

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increasing the money supply, taxes you through an inflation. That

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means the spending bill is the taxation bill. Very important

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concept to understand. All government spending is taxation. And then

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less than an hour after that tweet, he says, unless

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DOGE the Department of Government Efficiency, unless DOGE ends the

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careers of deceitful pork barrel politicians. The waste and corruption

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will never stop. Therefore, there is no choice but to

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is not. So what is that that is a direct

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threat against members of Congress that sign on to this,

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that Elon Musk, with his hundreds of billions of dollars,

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will go after lawmakers who do not rain in federal

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spending by voting for this. That's the line in the

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sand that was drawn at three point thirty. He waited

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until I got off air, so I couldn't read it

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yesterday on the show. I'm not taking it personally. I'm

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sure he doesn't even know I exist, but if he did,

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I would feel pretty hurt. Then he waited till three thirty,

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and Vance, and that put the nail in the coffin.

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Speaker 8: The numbers with you.

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Speaker 2: Again, that's Pete at the Petecallanershow dot com Programming Note,

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I won't be here next week or the week after.

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I'll be back on that first Monday of twenty twenty five,

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so we'll talk to you next year. That joke never

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gets old, right anyway. Jeremy Kaufman posting up on Twitter

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about the potential for the government shutdown. Jeremy Kaufman is

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a self described temporary dictator of ririsstylists dot net, aristolus

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dot net. Anyway, he points out that, you know, people

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calling for the government to be shut down should think

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about what they are saying, right, think about it. Do

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you really want local schools without oversight from Washington? Are

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you actually comfortable owning guns without the ATF around? And

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who will audit your taxes when you you know, to

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make sure that you've paid enough.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people need to think about this, you know.

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I think that's a fair point.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump and jd Vance yesterday at about five thirteen

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PM posted a statement onto the Twitter machine formerly known

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as x and this killed the Cramnibus.

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Speaker 1: Here's what they said.

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Speaker 2: The most foolish and inept thing ever done by Congressional

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Republicans was allowing our country to hit the debt ceiling

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in twenty twenty five. It was a mistake and is

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now something that must be addressed. Okay, so now this

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is a separate issue. This is the debt ceiling. We'll

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come back to that. Meanwhile, Congress is considering a spending

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bill that would give sweetheart provisions for government censors and

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for Liz Cheney. The bill would make it easier to

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hide the records of the corrupt January sixth Committee, which

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accomplished nothing for the American people and hid security failures

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that happened that day. This bill would also give Congress

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a pay increase while many Americans are struggling this Christmas.

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Increasing the debt ceiling is not great, but would rather

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do it on Biden's watch? If Democrats won't cooperate on

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the debt ceiling, now, what makes anyone think that they

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would do it in June during our administration. Let's have

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this debate now, and we should pass a streamlined spending

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bill that doesn't give Chuck Schumer and the Democrats everything

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they want. Republicans want to support our farmers, pay for

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disaster relief, and set our country up for success in

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twenty twenty five. The only way to do that is

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with a temporary funding bill without Democrat giveaways, combined with

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an increase in the debt ceiling. Anything else is a

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betrayal of our country. Okay, I disagree with that. I

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don't think you need to raise the debt ceiling. I

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don't think you should do it right now. I think

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you just do a clean cr But he's now both

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the incoming president and VP are like, let's increase the

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debt ceiling now. He says, Republicans must get smart and tough.

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If Democrats threaten to shut down the government unless we

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give them everything they want, then call their bluff. It

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is Schumer and Biden who are holding up aid to

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our farmers and disaster relief. This chaos would not be

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happening if we had a real president. We will in

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thirty two days. So about a half hour after that,

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Senator Tom Tillis from North Carolina here went on too

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the Twitter machine and said, if congressional leaders intend to

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leave DC before the holidays without passing disaster recovery, they

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should be prepared to spend Christmas in the Capitol. I'll

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use every tool available to block a CR that fails

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western North Carolina communities in need of long term certainty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So.

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Speaker 2: Tillis is demanding that the relief package be tacked onto

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a CR. He doesn't rule out a clean CR there,

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but wants there to be disaster relief funds. Congressman Greg

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Murphy from North Carolina said disaster aid and farm aid

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is not pork. It's called governing. That's what we were

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elected to do.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: Greg Murphy also said something I got a message here

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from Cormos. George Cormos, you should take a look at

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Murphy's arrogance in doubling down and yelling at his constituents

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that he has to support the cram of us because

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that's what he was elected to do. So, yeah, so

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there was that, and then hang on a second here, Yeah,

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he said leadership is tough, especially in a divided Congress.

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What is tougher is those who complain from the sideline

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when they don't have to get the votes themselves. This

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is not a good look, Congressman, not a good look,

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all right. Leadership is tough, especially in a divided Congress.

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is those who complain. That's not actually, that's actually part

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of the first thing that you said, that leadership is tough.

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There are going to be people who complain about decisions

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and about your position on a policy. Right, people are

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going to complain. Leadership means addressing the complaints and either

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addressing them and you know, working them into the final arrangement,

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or it means moving through them, setting them aside, recognizing

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those are not deal breakers. This is not important, that's

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not our priority. But this is a This is one

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of those things like, well, if you're not you know,

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you're not helping to craft this thing, saying then screw you.

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It's like, well, okay, first off, members of Congress weren't

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even allowed in on these negotiations, let alone we the people.

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And the backlash and the anger that got whipped up

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on Twitter yesterday that led to the phone calls that

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basically shut down their switchboards, that prompted these Republicans to

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grow the spine that we've demanded that they show. That's

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what I what I dare dare call it democracy right,

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That is elected representatives listening to their constituents. That's the

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way it's always occurred. It's just now you have a

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lot of people on social media that are aware of

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what's going on. And then there's Representative Don Bayer. He

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said the richest man in the world, says he wants

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to shut down the government, forcing millions of American workers,

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including our troops, to go without pay through the holidays.

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Speaker 1: Republicans are following his orders. This is insane. Again, a

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clean CR would fund.

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Speaker 2: All of the paychecks. Vote on that, Don, Are you

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opposed to that? So you're holding all of those paychecks hostage?

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So you can protect the J six Select Committee from subpoena,

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I want to be clear about that. That's what you're

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trying to protect. You want to make sure that none

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of your Democrats get subpoenaed to talk about how corrupt

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their investigation was into J six. Mark Warner, Senator Democrat.

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Hard to imagine anything more heartless than shutting down the

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government and leaving disaster victims out in the cold. Okay,

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do a clean CR and do a disaster bill. How

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about that absolutely outrageous, this is even a possibility, And

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an organization called the Virginia Project said, okay, so basically

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Democrats screwed over disaster victims on purpose so that they

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could now hold relief hostage to far left agenda items

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that got stuffed into the cr and they're not even

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slightly ashamed of doing it.

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Speaker 1: See, this only works.

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Speaker 2: This kind of messaging only works when you know the

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media is not going to challenge you on it, and

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that's why we're seeing it. Email is Pete atvpetekalnershow dot com.

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Speaker 1: Brett says, I kinda like Elon Musk.

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Speaker 2: However, didn't he get like something like four hundred million

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dollars from Obama to help start Tesla?

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Speaker 1: Or am I mistaken? It was a little bit more

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than that. Actually in California gave him a bunch of money.

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Speaker 2: I think I thought he bought like a he may

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have bought Tesla, or maybe it was a struggling plant

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or something. But yeah, he got a whole bunch of

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government subsidies. So that's okay, right when it's him getting

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the money but not the other slubs, it's not okay

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either way. So I've not read up on his explanations

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as to why he took these government subsidies and why

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those were okay versus what he's looking to do with Doge.

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But that's a fair question. Let me jump up here

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and get Dave on. Hello, Dave, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Hey, thanks the I just wanted to share a quote

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with you from Charlotte's favorite son, doctor Billy Graham. He said,

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when a courageous man takes a stand, the spies of

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others are often stiffened. And I am so thankful that

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we've got a courageous man now finally back in the

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White House, long overdue. I am also extremely thankful that

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our dear friend, former Congressman now Dan Bishop is going

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to be in the Office of Management and Budget and Padna,

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I think we're fiction to get some stuff turned around

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that's been long overdue. And I appreciate you. Pete. I

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enjoy your show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Dave. I'm thanking the call, Yes, sir, Marry Christmas.

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I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't I mean? I think And Dan Bishop made

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a comment about this on Twitter. I think yesterday or yeah,

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I think it was yesterday, maybe day before. He said,

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for the five years he was up in Congress. He

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was waiting for the you know, some sort of dynamic

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to change because and that's remember we talked with him

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after he announced that he was going to run for

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Attorney General and not go back to DC, and he said, like,

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you're one of four hundred and thirty five people up there,

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and just the way the system operates, you can't get

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anything done. And that's so I don't attribute that to

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Donald Trump. This deal getting mixed. I think this is

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all Elon Musk, I really do. I think this was

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Musk and to a lesser extent, Ramaswami. But Musk is

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so wealthy and so influential on Twitter that he just

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swamped the swamp. And I think that's a good thing.

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And he's doing it out in the open. He's not hiding, right,

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He's not. He's been very clear throughout the campaign when

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he was like, this stuff needs to change. I played

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for you the sound bites. He's been very explicit. We

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have to rein in the spending. This is going to

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destroy the country. We have got to do it now.

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And kudos to Trump for giving him the position to

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do this. And if this like this is their first scalp.

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This cram to us, this is the Doge Committee or whatever,

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because it's not a department, it's not a government, it's

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not officially anything. They're not even getting paid for it, right,

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So this is their first scalp and it's a pretty

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big one. And if it leads to a simple CR,

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a clean CR continuing resolution that gets us through the

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holiday I am not like Trump advance put at this

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statement saying, oh, we should do an increase on the

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debt ceiling. No, no, And you're not going to get

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that done as part of a clean CR and hurricane

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disaster relief unless you're going to say that you got

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to lift the debt ceiling for the disaster relief. So

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we're going to take on debt in order to do

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the disaster relief, Like, we should not be raising the

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debt limit, And especially I don't you do it? What

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between now and midnight tomorrow you think that's going to happen,

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because that's.

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Speaker 1: Where we're at.

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Speaker 2: We're on a deadline now, and so now you're into

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the shutdown politics and the optics of a shutdown. In

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all of that, Stan wants to know if you're not

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an essential government employee why do you have the job

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in the first place, unless, of course it's some form

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of entitlement. Yeah, jobs programs. That's look, Milton Friedman talked

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about this forty years ago, where the vast majority of

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you know, government programs, almost all of them, he said,

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the only one he could identify this was forty years ago.

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I'm sure it's gotten worse, but the only program he

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could identify back then that actually benefited the poor. Of

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all the programs that were supposedly designed to help the poor,

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the only one that actually benefits the poor more so

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than any other class food stamps, direct payment to the

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person to go buy food. Everything else is essentially a

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jobs program for the middle class.

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Speaker 1: Think about it.

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Speaker 2: They have to administer the programs, so you get hired

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to go to work for the government, where you get

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a middle class salary to administer a program for the poor.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: See the problem there, The person who's administering the program

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is getting more money to administer the program that a

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poor person gets through the program. I'm sure it's not

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gotten any better. Let me get Spencer on before the break.

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Hey Spencer, I got about thirty seconds for you.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 6: What happened?

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Speaker 7: To the twenty seventh Amendment. I mean, what it says

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is Congress can't give themselves a raise that goes into

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effect before the next election. That's twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: No law varying the compensation for services of the Senators

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shall take effect until an election of representatives shall have intervened.

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Speaker 7: Yes, and the senators that's a staggered bunch because their

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elections are staggered. But the Congress, I mean, the next

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election is twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: So that well by that.

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Speaker 2: But if you're thinking, but if that's the case, I

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spent so they would never be able to do it.

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An election just happened. This is the lame duck class,

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so you can't vote yourself. You can't vote yourself the

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pay raise before the election. So they just had the election.

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Now they're leaving, so anybody who got voted out wouldn't

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get that pay raise that would start the next year.

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So I think like the election intervened, so they would

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vote themselves a pay raise before the next class comes.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the point.

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Speaker 2: Good question though. All right, that'll do it for this episode.

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