Speaker 1: Get out of the faits, Get out of the faits,
Get off the pitch.
Speaker 2: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the six hundred and
sixty six, episode sixty sixty six of Geek First Podcast.
I'm your host, Black Fit Up Dress Now, and I'm
joe By.
Speaker 3: Does there have to be a y trickling patzer Ah and.
Speaker 4: The number of the Beast Dolmus.
Speaker 5: I'm the Mystery movie Taylor Field.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, I understand we're going we had a health
thing going on, but you had to go your own
route with that. That's fine, I understand. So, but yes, Liz, gentlemen,
we are at six sixty six. What a what a
fun number to be because next time we do this,
we won't be at this till one thousand, six hundred
and sixty six, so it's probably gonna be a little while,
will be.
Speaker 3: A little ninety nine. That's like the opposite.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah we can flip it.
Speaker 1: Do that.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, because at that point, let's see
about ten years to hit six six, So that means
on our twentieth somewhere around there, twentieth anniversary, we'll be
hitting the.
Speaker 4: Book in the hell.
Speaker 2: I guess even more so because it's one thousand, so
it's like twenty third year. Man, we're getting old. But
speaking of getting old, August ninth, GV Day, the ten year,
the ten hour streams are at ten am PSD. We
got lots of fun stuff going on there. I should
soon we should put up posts, Taylor and find out
who's gonna joining us for trivia, the patrons. We should
get there. I'll figure out a time, which time we're
doing that. But lots of good stuff too. All say
it's our annual GV Day, but this year we're celebrating. Yes,
we've been around for a decade, so we're doing that.
We're doing Golden Geeks this year, covering nineteen ninety four.
We'll be doing some quizzing of each other, some couples
quiz we will be doing. There'll be a bunch of videos,
There'll be some announcements, there'll be some surprises. There'll be
a bunch of guests kind of sprinkled throughout geek First history,
whether it's people that are in the show or just
other people that have been around. Tons of good stuff.
There's a post on Facebook and Twitter that has posted
to go read all. But yeah, it's gonna be a good,
a good time. We're going for ten hours a little
geek firstus, of course, that's always fun. A little longer.
If you want to up your tier or join Patreon
that day, we'll talk more about that, probably what was
we had a little closer than that two week marks.
We'll make some time increments. But if you want to
support us and what we're doing for the rest of
the year and next year, we'd appreciate that. But just student,
it's gonna be a very fun day, just like the
next and a half is gonna be very fun. It's
officially started next or so I guess. Last week we
started with bringing back Netflix and fail. My god, I
need a drink of water. We brought about Netflix and fail.
We watched Extinction, when the worst reviewed original sci fi
horror movies on Netflix. Do we think it deserves that?
Do we think it was rocking a low thirty percent?
Do we think it deserves a fail? I know, watch
and find out and then from now on, I think
I've looked at the calendar every week from last week
till our tenure. There is at least one, sometimes two
episodes covering that is for the ten uere. This week
is our first of the retrospective series. It's my film
of Shame that will be dropping a couple of days,
so to look up for that. Obviously, patrons, we'll talk
about you later. You get it nice and early next
week Geek's Creed is gonna be coming back, so that'll
be fun. Yeah, And then the weeks after that we'll
get Dylan Kirkland and Taylor's retro We're gonna get Dynamic Duo,
we're gonna get hunk of Hunkah, we're gonna get a
canteen conversations. So, like I said, it's now until August ninth,
that's just a full in celebration. We're getting our top
ten and soon there's tons of stuff. We're just overflowing.
There's juice everywhere. There's gasoline a lot of places. One
place is not gasoline. You might be wondering, because I'm
sure you looked at the feet like this is odd, Ironheart.
We don't know what we're doing with that yet. So
our original plan was because at first it was three
episodes and then they're gonna do weekly, And our plan
was because next week when it drops, this canaday day
off for us, and lots of people are busy, just hard,
you know, to do a review, and we have just
lots of other stuff like next week's also Drastic World.
Our original plan was the three and then three by
or three weekly. We're gonna, okay, review the batch, be
off a week and then get back in the swing
of things. We're not gonna do that because next week
we won't have we won't be available on Canadaate and
then yeah, the day after this Jurassic World and then
we have it tend to plan for the end of
the week, but we'll see how it goes because we're
all busy, and honestly, if we all kind of watch
and just feel abe, we'll just shout on what we've
been watching. We'll see we'll core less, so that CBD,
I'll just shout out. You know. We have a podcast
network that has seven shows. They got shows almost every
there's a couple there bi weekly, but same thing Monday
and Friday, Marvel Alliance with Chris and David. They'll be
covering it both weeks because luckily they got fourth of July.
So this Friday, look up for that breakdown for the
first three and then the next three. So I'm sure
at some point the Marvel Golden Geeks we will talk
about it. But it's just like in the scheme of things,
is dropping at a very inconvenient time for us in Canada,
and then just ask the geek first. And it's honestly,
you know, I don't know. I don't know how many
I have not seen anyone the discord asking us about
Oh you guys, I've not it's out tonight. I'm seen
a people of everyone telling they're watching it anything like that.
Speaker 4: So low juice.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we are needing some juice and hopefully we'll
get that. Oh god, is that the last MCU think
this year? Fantastic four. That's not a good sign either
reviewing And.
Speaker 4: Then what about Wonder Man. He's popping out this year,
isn't he?
Speaker 2: That is no juice. That's d a as well.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it's coming out for sure. Yeah, but
because of juice. We'll talk about that. But uh, Fantastic four,
we got lots of stuff time about that, but we'll
talk about that lair. When we talk about Patron today,
we're talking about Punisher being pretty much officially it's as
Tier Scooper pretty much confirmed. The gonna be in Spider Man.
We're talking about some ball in direction directors. We got
just one draft up. Sorry Taylor didn't do the rest
of them because we got lots of Patreon questions, which
are some fun kind of more long winded ones, so
but one in particular, So yeah, gonna be a smaller
one because after this, like I said, we're recording shame,
so look out for that. And uh yeah, how's everyone
doing tonight? I know, I ramble love but before we
get to we're not doing what we watching. But how's
just everyone doing in general? How's how's the Tuesday vibe
going right now?
Speaker 4: It's a sixty six to six vibe today, So I'm
I'm I'm doing great. The Disciple of the Devil, you know,
feeling good?
Speaker 3: What are you doing down there the Vancouver Lands?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, burn some bibles, you know, burn some barns.
Speaker 2: Wow. We do not support dyl Muss's comments here ATKI. First,
you know you're right there, Kirkle. You look like you're
about to kill over any second.
Speaker 3: I think it's the red light. I don't think I've
ever had it on like this long, or it's been
a while. I might have to switch it halfway through.
I feel it's fucking with my eyeballs. But yeah, he
on in there too. It feels warm. I think it's
like the red light is just entering my skin, you know,
like you don't you don't feel as hot as you
would be. It's like a red light souna how that works.
Speaker 2: But just for the video of fact.
Speaker 3: What are you deler?
Speaker 5: Oh? You know, just living life and you know, just
staying cool. Thunders and lightnings going on outside, and.
Speaker 3: Are you getting some right now? It was teasing over
here on this side of the water.
Speaker 5: It was teasing earlier. At roughly three forty five to
three fifty I'd say, it came down hard and then
it meandered off.
Speaker 4: So we.
Speaker 5: Thunder claps, yeah, a little bit of thunder claps, Yeah,
but not as long as it was on Friday when
they shut my operations down, because that was just I was,
I mean, holy fuck, end of days, end of times,
God coming.
Speaker 3: To shut it down because of the thunder his.
Speaker 2: Power went up. Maybe you should be more specific.
Speaker 5: They told me the lights flash. They told me to
shut my machines down because the power was so a
flash of light up.
Speaker 2: Terry sounds like he's trying to do a ceasefire or
something over there.
Speaker 5: Shut it down, kill the power took to social media.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, Jon, we're gonna have a fun episode
here today and then the rest of the week. Dylan
and Kirkland just did side Quest yesterday, so you can
check out that on the feed and you can do
a double We have the desk Randing review classic of
Dylan six years ago when I told Emily that when
I boot up desk Randing, I'm like twentyeen's like no
something that I'm like, oh yeah. But then next week
me and Dylan be covering Dust Ranking two, very excited
to talk about that. I think it's gonna be a
juicy review. And then this week, like I said, we
have shame, We got a weekly Geek with kirkle or
with Taylor and Dylan. Already some other news there and
there'll be more because the days go by. And then
the gimmick at some point this weekend when decides they're
having to show in Saudi Arabia or not, which is
always a fun time. But lots of good stuff, just
like this episode right now. So let's jump on the
time machine a little bit. This is why two time machines.
Actually one. This happened like a long time ago, like
four years ago, but I always bring it up because
you know, I'm not trying to take shots to the
person in case they're still a listener. I don't mean
this in a shot like filled way. I just be
when we did a trip, when we did our like
our yearly surveys, what what they like and don't like,
I remember someone being like, I don't like you guys
covering like like some of those smaller rumors. The rumors
will come from the big sources. And I know we
talked about why we do it, but this is why
we do it. Because then to jump in the second
time machine with Dylan and kirkling back all the way
in January seventeen, I shot them a C tier rumor
of Hulk and Punishir, which at that time was a
rejected script. So I don't know if that was a
lie or they rejected the script and then they went
other days ideas. Actually let's just go back to that one.
But we're gonna talk about it again because it's looking
I'll see Mark Ruffle has only been confirmed by like
C plus tiered people, but it's been a lot of
people that it's say, Okay, this is happening, and I
think even the bigger trades are like, yeah, it's pretty
much a done deal. And then birth noll he Again,
obviously that was a sea tier back in January, but
now this is everwhere the Hollywood reports the deadlines, et cetera.
So Tam, I'm gonna throw you first because you and
I weren't on that cast. So I'll save these veterans
for last and see if their thoughts have changed and whatnot.
Because at that point this script was supposedly something happens
with Hulk. He snaps, he goes anger, and maybe the
idea was Peter wants to save him, you know, kind
of I don't know, a little redundant of no way home,
Let's not kill this guy, Let's try to find a
way to make a normal But you know, Frank Castle,
he's just down to like maybe the Hulk accidentally kicks
Karen and he's just down to like kick his green
little ass. So how do you feel about one berth
doll going to the movies? And I don't. I don't
think this is gonna be a role, likely cos a
new way home where it's an appearance, because that was
kept secret till like a few days before the movie.
I think this is going to be a full on
supporting role. So what do you think about birth Mall
being in Spider Man four? And then what do you
think about just that idea of, you know, Spider Man
versus Haulk versus Punisher in a sense, And I do
have a Patreon question after that. I will throw to
you guys once we cover the opening parts.
Speaker 5: The idea of getting Hawked back in this type of
capacity excites me. I would love to get that because
I feel like he's been very passive lately and it's
just been like human form Bruce Banner, So.
Speaker 2: Six years, just like destranding six years.
Speaker 5: Like as soon as Deadpool Wolverine had that sneak peak
scene of Wolverine versus Hulk, I got giddy. I was
like that, I want to see some Hulk like that again.
It's been so long, so long, So that is all
aces in my in my opinion, to get burn Thaal,
you know, going to the movies, going on to the
big screen, like I I'm I'm going to movies with them.
Let's do it.
Speaker 2: You you want him to do the tongue Cruise like, hey,
thanks for watching Spider Man in the theater, like the
best of the best place.
Speaker 4: You want the whole I don't want to see you
napping in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to do the same marketing, like stand
on top of that building, climb up on top of
his limo at the Red Carpet premiere. I'm to do
all the same stuff that Tom Cruise was doing.
Speaker 2: I missed the whin did Tom Cruise stamp on limo?
Speaker 5: He did that for one of the promotional things. You
didn't You never saw that? No, is he just I'll
pull it up when when whenever one when you guys
goes next because it's just fucking funny. What a character.
But yeah, I think I.
Speaker 2: Don't know why. I just thought of John birth all
saying everything Tom Cruise is just feel like he's the
biggest sellout in the world and will be something off
about it.
Speaker 5: I'm just so down for him to be popping up
on the big screen because I've been loving him as
the Punisher, really really haven't. I heard not so like
great things about the Accountant too, But him and Affleck though,
those are like the best parts of that movie. I
never saw the first Accountant, but I'm gonna probably make
some time to watch that and get to that second
one because I want to Berenthal.
Speaker 2: I think it's people were disappointed that it kind of
takes a different direction. It sounds like the Count two
is way more comedic, which the count when, I think,
is pretty serious. So I think people that were fans
of the first one were kind of like, oh, what
the hell is this? But I think if you don't
mind the shift change, you might you might enjoy it.
I've never seen them either. I saw last fifteen minutes
of the movie like twenty times. It always played before
aw wrestling, and I know the last fifteen minutes, but
that's all you know, so.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and sorry, the last part was with with Peter
maybe doing something trying to like save Bruce or calm
the situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't think he I don't think I
don't think he's teaming up with Frank be.
Speaker 5: Like yeah, let's let's let's execute him.
Speaker 2: You see this scar and they're just kicking his father's
ass in front of him and Frank.
Speaker 5: You know, I think that this is these are three
very different heroes that we haven't seen together on screen.
I'm just I'm so down to see three characters that
you wouldn't really put together be put together because you're
gonna get some very cool dynamics. And this just gets
me really really excited to think about and see. So
I'm there for it. Sign me up, Sign you up?
Speaker 2: Okay, mister muss in January. I feel like you and
kirklen we're both kind of like, you know, maybe if
you want. But now since we've gotten you know, Frank
back in Daredevil, which I think we all love, where
are you on it now in twenty twenty five in
the summertime?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that you know, if we just put
Punisher in there and like take the whole stuff out,
maybe it works a bit better. Maybe that's like grounds
for like something a bit better storytelling wise. I'm trying
to think, has this, like when has this Peter Parker
slash Spider Man really been tested on, like the idea
of like killing people or like removing villains, because I
feel like that's something that we haven't really seen much
just because it's like a bit of a softer sigh,
we'n't really got to that. But I feel like that's
something that Frank can pull out of him in a way,
and like having those conversations, and I don't know, like
maybe that that could be like a point of contention
between them two of course, and I think that could
be interesting. Obviously we've already got that between like Punisher
and Daredevil, so like I don't want to retread the
same ground, but we haven't really got that from this
punished sure and another hero like on the big screen,
and maybe we can take a different stance on it.
I don't know if maybe you don't have too much
time as like dar Devil's show or Punish Her show
to really dive into those topics. I don't know how
well it's gonna work. But even if it's just like
an underlying thing, that could be an interesting way that
we push this Peter Parker into different headspaces. And and
I don't know, I guess like I thinks that we
haven't really seen him have to like deal with before,
Like am I misremembering Has there been a moment or
a scene or something like that we've really got to that.
I guess, like a spring Goblin a little bit, it is.
Speaker 2: No way home, and it's like let's send them back
to die, and he doesn't want to do that. But
I think, what's interesting. You have two things. One you
have Andrew Garfield set up of like, hey we're Spider Man.
Sometimes we do some messed up stuff, and you got
to think of obviously it's not the exact same because
not everyone's dead, but think about hopefully if they follow
the trajectory of No Way Home. Peter's all alone, he
has nobody, right, and what is Frank Castle? He's always alone,
he has nobody, So you could maybe I wonder if
you at the beginning kind of see like he, like
Peter can kind of see a bit of himself, Frank
of a guy that's secluded himself, but that might bring
him back to his friends back. Oh look what happens
when I don't When I shut everyone away, I become
what Frank Castle is. So I can almost see the beginning,
not that he's like, I'm down to kill people, Frank,
but maybe like a more vengeful Spider Man. But then
he realizes, hey, that's too far.
Speaker 4: Didn't we get the confirmation a few days ago that
MJ and Ned are are in this movie. Now they
are discuss possibly no.
Speaker 2: They broke on the Friday same time as this, so yeah,
that was confirmed that they're both back in minor roles. Apparently,
Zindaa's role has been described it's like kind of the
same length as Homecoming, So remember she's kind of around
and there, but not too much.
Speaker 4: So I guess are even gonna do with those characters?
If you're not gonna dive really back into them, what's
even the the point? Like is he just gonna be
sulking around going to coffee shop? Still, Like, I don't know,
is that really what we're doing?
Speaker 2: I think I think you're gonna have two things where
he's gonna be watching them from the roof, like you know,
solomn like look at their life. And then I think
they're at one point in a college or in a class,
getna bump into each there or maybe that's how the
movie ends, is like he joins a college class and
unfortunately MJ is also in that class, and it's kind
of that I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 4: I know you don't like it, but I think it's
gonna or he has to like save one of them,
but then he kind of has to choose, like, Okay,
do I distance myself, or do I use this as
like an end to like befriend them again or whatnot.
But I guess that would be different because he'd be
Spider Man, not Peter in those moments. So I don't know.
Speaker 5: Like the more we here this.
Speaker 4: Movie, the more it's like pencil grounds for extremely messy movie.
Like I feels like we were just dealing with a
lot of different things at once, So I hope, like
I want a Frank thing going on, but like, I
don't know, I feel like, does that really fit with
like the ned style like Spider Man. I feel like
those are diametric opposites of like stones.
Speaker 2: For Spider it becomes all of goblin. Frank's like, oh,
I'll take care of that for you, just so don't worry, now,
you know, don't worry. This guy's gonna bring up a
classic fan out people have been sharing though this was
in a storyline where Peter did get beat up by
the Hulk and Frank saved them and found them, so
they might I bet they could maybe replicate something like this. Okay,
I wonder if that's a situation where is it something
like that where Peter is doing stuff and Hulk snaps
and then he does get taken out and Frank takes
it upon himself like well, I'm gonna protest, I'm gonna
protect New York. But that's not really what Peter would
want obviously. Like that, that's what's so interesting because not
even when you brought the killing thing down, like I
think no way Home does do that. But I just
I think it's like an immovable object, meaning an unstoppable force,
because I don't know, either you have to bring this
movie really down or you gotta bring Frank really up,
because even Frank in Netflix or sorry that Frank and
the Born Again you can't have. He's not doing that
on Boardant Brand New Day, Like there's no way, there's
no like to me for Peter Park like.
Speaker 4: Born Again, Brand New Day, those are similar.
Speaker 2: Yeah they are. I just feel like, is it just
gonna be Frank the vigilante who yeah, wants to kill Hulk,
or is it gonna be the Frank you know, the
murder and I just I just don't see. I don't
know if they get to go that far. Obviously John Berthall,
you know, he's probably just happy to get the bag.
But it's just like what.
Speaker 4: But I don't know, is he though, Like I guess,
it's a different bag you get for a movie versus
d plus. But we know that he rejected those that
first original Daredevil script because it just wasn't right, and
so I don't I don't know if I see him
signing up to the movie for the same reason. I
once again, maybe that bag is like ten times as
bigger as big and he's like, I don't care, I'll
do it or why not? And maybe that bag went
up after they saw like the hype level for people
see him Inborn Again too, So maybe it is just
a bag thing. But I don't know. It seems like
this character is really important to him, and I don't
know if he would want to like just you know.
But once again, things can change late into like we
sometimes know these MCU movies, like are changing scripts on
the day or like you know, in the moment, So
I don't know. Maybe it could even veer off what
he signed up for in the first place, I guess.
Speaker 2: And to your point before I throw to Kirkland, I
think there for me there is a worry as far
as you got Spiderman dealing with all his friends and
life stuff up Punisher. You got Hulk, I would assume
there's gonna be some other villain that is like pushing Hulk.
Greg like, I don't just think the main bad is
just Bruce Banner turning bad, right, And I still question.
I still question if that's a good move to do,
if that is the move, if it's Hulk going bad.
I know it is different because it's Bruce Banner, it's Ruffalo,
but that is just the plot of Brave New World
pretty much. It's gonna be the finale of Okay, Red
Hulk and Greenhulk go bad and it's people trying to
take him down. I don't know, maybe it's not. I
do think because we had talked about this before. I
do think from the Sony side, this makes a lot
of sense because before people would throw out as much
as I don't, you know, it sounds mean. People would
always throw at Charlie Cox's dairy deevil, which I hope
he is in here still somehow, But that's not the
equivalent of Sam Jackson, Robert Downey and Benda Cumberbatch. We've
talked about it before, where it's like they want like
a big star or they want multiple and to me,
I don't think Berthall or Ruffaler on that level separately,
but as a package, I think they kind of are
where it's like, hey, we don't have one big star,
but we got two of the B tier guys, and
you even birth All Like I feel like people really
like him and Ruffalo. I think it's a give or take.
But maybe, like Terry say, maybe people when they say
that see that Hulk again, They're like, Okay, this is
We're getting back to the knitty gritty that what I love.
So from so many standpoint that makes sense. From Punisher,
I'm very happy. I love Me and Dale covered an
animated series. I love The Punisher even in comics like
Peter Parker dynamic because even Matt he teeters on that line.
I might kill somebody, but I'm not gonna Peter like
he does, but not as much as as Matt Murdoch does.
So and it's very a fun full circle where when
they are auditioning for Daredevil and for Spider Man, they
helped each other birth now Tom Holland in real life
they auditioned with each other before they went to the
real auditions. So that's really fucking cool that all these
years later, it's happening. So the Punisher of it all
I love, and even right now, I think, like I
said thematically, it makes sense Punishers alone, Spider Man is
now Loane. He's gonna see mirror as a Frank or
Frank as a mirror of Oh, this is what would
happen if I stay alone. I can't do that. Maybe
that helps Frank Castle as a character too. I don't know,
but I so I love all that. It's still the
hulkness of it all. It's just it feels like a
very odd comp and even then, just like I love Punisher,
but like even for him to be like I'm gonna
take down the Hulk, it's like, oh okay, Like that's
unless he gets the war Machine suit. I just like sure,
Like I'm a Batman guy, I get it. I can
suspend belief. But that's a big jump to be like
I'm gonna go from he couldn't even take down Kingpin's
goons and Daredevil born again too. I'm gonna take down
you know, the big.
Speaker 3: You know it's a little Frank is it gets hulked
up from Batman back?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do see it.
Speaker 2: I do see everyone's questions. We'll go after Kirkland because yeah,
some points in there. Yeah, Kirkland, how you feel is
this Spider guy? You know, a hulk in there? Punisher?
Sounds like it's all but official now that's I mean
the rumors it's shooting July August, so we should know
relatively soon, just kind of all this stuff. They're not
going to Comicon obviously, so no like panel or something,
but just from set photos and stuff will know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean this is awesome. I love this news.
It was a fun rumor when Dylan and I were
covering it at the sea tier level. So, uh, congratulate.
Does that get an upgrade? Now? Is that Scooper? Does
that get Yeah?
Speaker 2: The person that dropped the scoop, I don't know if
you remember a couple of years ago, you guys haven't
talked to him that much, but the guy that hosted
our trivia battle, John Rocca. He hosted the Marble so
one year that was his scoop and uh, yeah, a
friend of the show. I don't like saying that because,
like I've only talked a few times. He was gracious
enough to host Extra Life, but yeah, it came from him.
He said he had a source that told him, see,
I'll bump them up to C plus now, so there
you go, there you go on.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, just in terms of the pairing,
it's it's so much fun just thinking about like where
those two characters are kind of on just their path,
Like in the MCU, they're both on their own and
very very different just like morals and and kind of
like how they go about what they do, which is,
you know, fight crime usually for the better good, and yeah,
just just try and do what they can. But just
putting them like together in a dysfunctional buddy cops scenario
is just so fun to me. So I hope there's
there's some humor in it, but I hope it's not
just like over the top, because Punisher is still the
Punisher and I still want to feel the essence of
that character. And I mean, just with some of the
ideas that you guys are already talking about, spitballing with
the Hulk and stuff, like I can already just kind
of see like a similar like like story pattern. I guess,
like you brought the comparison to Captain America, and like
I can see that going about in the.
Speaker 2: Same way world another b he's going on right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can definitely see the story going in a
similar way, but like that still kind of gets me
excited because of the pieces that are involved. I definitely
think I don't know. I still think we're in like
the Twilight of the Mark Ruffalo Hulk journey on in
the MCU. I don't think it's gonna be like killed
off or anything in a non Avengers project. Just been
around for you so long? What's that They're gonna let
Frank do it? Just break his back just like fucking
like you.
Speaker 2: Know Thanos did him in Finny War. That's he just
busts out the army training and.
Speaker 3: Just what means That would be crazy and I feel
like unexpected, So like if it did happen, I would
just be totally perplexed. I don't think it would happen
in a in a non Adventurans project though, just because
he's been around for so long. But I would love that,
like the Hulk that we know, whether it's Smart Hulk
or whatever, is just like gone like after this movie too,
Like like even if Hulks still around, it's just like
that more like rage induce and maybe he's not even
necessarily on our side. He's just like a neutral wild
card out there next time that we seem I think
that would be really fun. So I don't know I
can see it going. I feel like I'm trying to
like not think about the craziest situations ever that could
happen with all these these members, Like I'm gonna get
John Burnhal's Punisher riding the Hulk off into battle or something,
but like, I mean, that would be fun. I still
think it would be like the more simple approach with
like the comparisons to Brand New Day, but are not
Brand New Day, my gosh, Brave New World World.
Speaker 2: Brand.
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was a bad name until I'm
trying to say the two together, but I don't. Yeah, no,
this is this is fantastic, really really exciting, And I mean, yeah, Taylor,
we can jump in there our Punisher Punisher on the calendar.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If people don't know, we are doing the Punishing retrospective.
These guys are gonna do the first or the two
seasons of The Punisher Show, and then we'll do the
three movies that were Dolph Logren, Thomas Chane and their
late great Race Stevens. Since we'll be doing that in
twenty twenty six, so and that's why joined patron becuzing
sports for all that type of stuff.
Speaker 4: So when did U what years were the Punisher seasons?
When did this come out? Travis?
Speaker 2: I think I think the last one was Jessica Jones,
and I think that came out of Run like twenty
eighteen nineteen, So I feel like the Punisher is probably
twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen something like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to think off, like was Punisher
pre Civil War? Even?
Speaker 2: No, it was not, because I remember there was a
talking about Seatiers and ones we were wrong. There was
a big Seatier scoop that like Daredevil was going to
be in Civil War. So I guess, okay, I think
he he might have been in season two of his
like Daredevil, but I don't think the Punisher show had happened.
Speaker 4: Yet, Okay. So what I was trying to think back of,
like you know, watching these shows in real time that
we often did, and like reviewing them, like thinking back
like you know, Spider Man even in MCU at that point,
but like thinking about, Wow, the Punishers, someday Birthall is
gonna be in like a movie. I Guesspy my movie
all these years later is kind of a crazy thought.
Speaker 2: Well, even then it feels weird because it's like we're
gonna we're talking about like, oh, who's gonna be in
Doomsday and sier Wars since all the New Avengers. But
this is very much like even though Berthall and Tom
Holan aren't in the first few phases, it feels like
core Marvel characters, Right.
Speaker 4: We've been in there for like so long now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not using their new toys at all.
So so Punisher debuted in twenty seventeen and then end
in twenty nineteen, so there you go.
Speaker 4: There's your Civil War was twenty year after so.
Speaker 2: He just missed it. He could have been there to
help out Team Cat for sure, because that's in the
comics books. He's he highly respects Cats in America. One time,
Captain America like talks him down and like Frank like
almost I don't want say it comes to tears.
Speaker 4: So surprised by that. I feel like Captain America is
such a rules guy, and Punisher is very much anti rule.
Speaker 2: He's a war vet. That's why they got that that
connection there.
Speaker 5: So that's why let's kill Monger. Is that gonna be
like like his role model too?
Speaker 2: Well, if he does, maybe, but he died. They didn't
get the meat right, so he's he's dead. They didn't happen.
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There some some questions which we'll get into, but in
the second I will bring up this one that details said,
which I have seen is a very popular theory. How
would you guys feel a Frank get involved if it's
a symbio Spider Man because obviously you talk about somebody
if they're going down a dark alley or not dark alley,
a dark path. That's Peter the symbio who better to
match like, because you could have Frank unloading machine guns
everything because it's like Venom symbio. Same thing on Hulk.
You could have two characters black Suit Spider Man and
hulkup you get a Frank shooting RPG's nukes. It's not
gonna matter because like, oh, they're protected, you know, plot
armor wise, I don't think it's gonna happen because again
I feel like that's a lot of stuff. But I
would not be opposed because again that would fit thematically
with Frank as far as the very Dark Spider Man.
Speaker 4: So like, this movie's messy enough, I don't we need
to chuck a chuck symbiot in there.
Speaker 3: I agree, Dylan, although visually I would definitely eat that up.
Speaker 2: You can get Simil Hulk and it could.
Speaker 3: Just be jumping on all the characters. You know, it
could be symbio Punisher at some point, riding the whole
symbio picture earlier the Hawk Goblin.
Speaker 2: What about you, Taylor? Would you want Simbila Spider Man
going off against the Punisher here?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: Wasn't uh? And I correct me if I'm wrong, because
I'm not one hundred percent confident in my my Punisher
Venom symbio knowledge. But how does is it venom agent
or agent Venom? That's not Punisher right? Okay?
Speaker 2: Is like another war Vet who loses his legs us
agent not him?
Speaker 5: Another wart?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if he I don't know if
he respects US agent because he's he does a lot
of bad respect. No, he does not respect him. He
imagined this US agent and punisher man Frank the floor
with them. But but speaking of if you're not in
the live chat, you enjoined patrons and questions. Anytime we
do newscast, God loves me. Six cent has a question.
He has a quick aside. He says, have you guys
seen Studio sixty six with Food Fighters? He also said,
fuck Dave Grol. I don't know why, but there you go.
Speaker 4: Cheat on his wife. I think something like.
Speaker 2: That a child.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sure, there you go. Yeah, I'm assuming that's
why he said it could be.
Speaker 2: He announced it in like the silliest way. Dave Girl,
it's pretty funny. I'm a big Food Fighters fan. It
goes back to Nirvana. He said it was a mild
lely campy but a decent time. No, I've not heard it.
I've seen it. I've I'm a big Food Fighters fan,
but I guess not enough to like go check out
the movie. But I've heard good things about But I've
never seen Studio sixty six.
Speaker 4: I have not seen it.
Speaker 5: Negative, I've not seen it, but I'll never forget their
song walk from the thor credits.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's also in the bar too they play
is it really twenty seconds when him and Eric Salvigor
playing And it always bugs me like this is expensive song?
Like why you know?
Speaker 4: Why did you favor role? Also the drummer of crushes it?
So here you go? Is he like he is always Wow?
Speaker 2: Okay, I know that's just d Nirvana.
Speaker 4: That's he's in the he's in the movie. He plays
the devil speaking of six or six that's so funny.
Speaker 2: There you go. It's crazy, Taylor. What did you say?
Oh you about the only food fire song I jumped
to is other guys? You know that's like when I'm
thinking of movie moments and he pushes, there goes my ear.
Speaker 5: Ups.
Speaker 2: Let's see where do you think punish your inspiment will
interact for the first time?
Speaker 5: I e.
Speaker 2: During a crime stop, just on a streets something else? Dill,
Where do you think these do bump it? What's the
introduction between Frank and Peter Parker or I guess just
Spider Man. He's not Peter Parker anymore, you know? Fuck?
Speaker 4: I mean, we're talked to so many rumors of this
movie who knows what the heck's gonna go on, but
I'm gonna say that maybe it's like a dimly lit
alley way, uh crime crime situation. Maybe for some reason,
you know, some some villain has like a power glove
or something, and Spidey is getting best a little bit,
and then Punisher comes out of nowhere and kills the guy,
and Spidey's pissed because obviously he doesn't want He just
wants to web him up and get him apprehended by
the by the police. But Frank has a different method,
so he just headshots the guy and then we deal
with three percussions there. That's my I don't know if
that's actually gonna happen, but that's my best guess.
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm on the exact same wavelength as you
that's gonna happen. My only change that is they will
catch him and he'll be all webbed up and he'd
be like, oh thanks man, and then Frank will just
fucking gut him down. So it's gonna be worse. It's
like an unarmed villain. But I think whatever it is,
even if it's your version of my version, it is
they're fighting. Frank is working on bus and I think
it'll be someone lower to your like they'll bring Shaker
back or God, that's what's gonna happen to Scorpion. I
just know we're waited three movies to get Scorpion. He's
gonna be there and Frank's just gonna pop him in
the head. But I think that's how it is. And
I think it's like a combination of Peter is already
entangled with punish sure before the Hulk stuff happens, because
I've seen people throw it the theory of like, oh,
Bruce is his college professor, but I'm always like, does
Bruce have time to be a college professor? Right, and
like it just feels weird for the event, I guess
unless he's retired, But it just feels on that feels
too much like a lizard doc, Like we've done that before,
the teacher that Peter trusts and something bad happens, Like
I don't want again. I'm not so hot on the
Hall the Hulk angle. But yes, mid crime, Frank takes
it too far and then they go that route.
Speaker 3: So it's a good pitch, good pitch. I'm gonna I
was gonna say the same thing. But to say something
a little bit different, I'm gonna say that they meet
like like Peter Parker meets Frank Castle first, like they
actually run into each other and maybe maybe.
Speaker 5: Where are those two rests looking to hire somebody for it?
Speaker 4: At a bar?
Speaker 3: Peter had a rough day and you know the guy
at the bar, Frank Castle, just gives him some some
really hard advice that is like maybe something that doesn't
want to accept. But it's like that is the reality situation.
And uh, and yeah, he takes it to heart and
then carries that and then at some point, yeah, he
when he sees him as Spider Man, it'll be when
Frank off someome man and then yeah.
Speaker 2: Who is jumping? Who's the jumping?
Speaker 3: Mostly it's Frank pushing the guy. I guess it would
be so it's just a brutal fall. It would be
a brutal death that Spider Man witnessed.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe for a bit more drama at the bar,
Frank like on his iPhone is watching like the j
Jonah podcast or something too. So someone got to kill
this guy.
Speaker 2: That's how they meet. He just guns down Jan in
his office. Know, maybe Kirk, maybe your gift is like
Frank picking up a villain and he jumps with it
like he lands on like awestin power style. You know,
that's how Frank's new movies. You're gonna take all the
whok somehow, you know.
Speaker 3: He just walks away like john Wick. He's just that touch.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that would be a fight they going forever. John
Wick and Frank Castle. They they would never die, but.
Speaker 3: It'd be bloody. It would be a lot of damage invoked.
But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: I think if you were to have if you were
to have the dynamic of Punisher trying to like, I
don't know, instilling Peter to kill or something like that,
it kind of runs a similar line of Goblin trying
to get Peter to like kill him because he's just
kept like throwing shit and ship at him and just
trying to piss him off. And then it was Peter
that saved Peter, stopped him from making that mistake. And
the only well did Andrew Garfield Spider Man kill anybody.
Speaker 2: Not ind intween he said that I got bitter while
while they're talking about murdering people, he said I got bitter, which, man,
he definitely killed some fucking dudes after Grand states that's
what I mean, like they have set that up that
even though.
Speaker 5: Good friends with the Punisher of his universe and his universe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like even though Toby stopped them, doesn't mean Tom
Holmes peer was not gonna like decapitate Defoe right there, right,
So just because he's gone does the same thing. Like
at the end of Amazing Experimen too, you might assume like, oh, hey,
you know, he's gonna be Sperman again. He'll figure it out.
But apparently no, he was killing dude. So maybe Tom's
the same way. Maybe Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: So in this in this world, I think you're gonna
have a familiar face, be like Ned or someone they
fell out of school getting bad grade. So they're robbing
a bank. Ned's punisher is gonna show up. Yeah, Spider
ma is gonna show up to stop Ned, but Punisher's
gonna just execute him in cold blood. And that's but
Ned's not gonna actually die. He's gonna come back as hobgoblins.
Speaker 3: So like this, I.
Speaker 4: Forget what movie was. I think it was No Way Home.
When it's like the guys are robbing the bank with
like the masks of like Captain America on Iron Man stuff.
Speaker 2: Ned has a homecoming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. He just has a mask like
one of those guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the Punisher skull on there.
Speaker 2: You know. It's yeah, like Hulk was Jonah's like Hulk
was clearly robbing this bank, and Hulk's like no, I was.
Speaker 4: Were just like silver someone completely random.
Speaker 5: He can insert a food Fighter's song in there too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pretender. There you go, putting the pretender.
Speaker 5: It works, but yeah.
Speaker 2: We'll see it's gonna be exciting times. Well, we don't
even know who the hell again, we also say he's
thinking here we don't know who she is? There was
there was the latest roomor that she's going Stacy. I
would absolutely love that if she was Gwen Stacy because
especially again, that'd be two ways of making Andrew Garfield's
Peter Parker very important of saying after Gwen passed he
started killing people, and the fact that he said the
name Gwen. I would just love to see that reaction
of Tom Holmes. He's in his classroom, he's sitting, he's
me and all these students and some girl sits beside
him and they start talking. They go, what's your name?
I'm Gwen Stacy? But think if he heard that name
he be a second it would click in like oh shit, like.
Speaker 5: This is like he starts, he starts stalking, and then
he that's when she hires. Like he's like, I'm not
sure I need some help. I gotta stocker, Frank, you
gonna help me, don't worry when I got you covered.
Speaker 2: No, But like I want that moment of him hearing
the name Gwen Stacey and he knows, Oh shit, that's
somebody to me. And I don't know again how the
love triangle gets in there. I don't think they're gonna
go that route. But and I don't even know if
she'd be Spider Gwen, but yeah, who knows. But we
will see. So let's move on to this next topic here.
I wanted to talk about this because me and Kirkland
don't get a cast for a while, and I also
want Taylor and Dillon's fall thoughts. But just in case not, uh,
James Bond rumored to get a director short list or's
not rumor it does. Uh, We're going through a weird
thing where it was like, hey, Amazon's maybe I try
to speak with Nolan or something like that, and well,
I'll say Chris Nolan doesn't seem like that worked out.
And then it was like, Okay, now it looks like
it's gonna be Alfonso Kuran, who did Roma, who did Gravity,
who did Tristramszkaban, children Men, great, great pick right, and
then he it was in a thing where when that
rumors happening, like yeah, we're just figuring it all out,
and then like months layers like Yain, I don't look
like it's happening anymore. So I don't know what's going on. They.
I'm guessing Amazon's maybe have some control issues would be
my guess that maybe they are going to some tours
being like, hey, you want to do Bond and they're like, oh,
I do this, this and this, and then the Amazon,
in my opinions, be like, I don't know if we
want to do that. But now there's a new shortlist
right now. Edward Berger, I think it's a Berger, uh
not Burger, a Berger, Denise Villeneuve, Edgar Wright, Jonathan Nolan,
and Paul Kinser. Edward Berger had done I'm forgetting the
War movie he did, but he did, and I'm forgetting
the Priest movie did too. That just was with Ray
Fines The Covenant or is The Covenant the Cardinal the
no I'll find out after really good movie, both very solid,
dread dnevelle Neuve. We've talked boy him any times. Edgar Wright,
Scott Pilgrim, Versus The World, Sean the Dead, He's working
on Running Man right now. Last thing, and so Jonathan
Nolan hasn't directed too much. He directed me called Transcendence
that I've never seen. I used to meme on Emily.
She hated me for it. I used to log onto
is she leave her phone? I take her phone and
pick up her Facebook app and get the poster of
Transcendence and just would post all this is my favorite
movie of all time. One time someone did like, oh
I love that movie, she'd always get mad me and
then she deleted. But obviously he's tied with Amazon because
he's the show runner and head creator of Fallout. I
think with somebody else, but with Fallout. And then Paul
King is quality, but definitely the most random choice. He's
done all the Paddington's and then he did Wonka as well,
so not what you would think for Bond, but obviously
a very skill talented director. So I'm gonna throw to
my other man. Who's on the Bond retro which you
know stay tuned could return soon. They think with a
game coming out, you never know what's happing twenty twenty six.
But Kirklan, out of this list, who do you have
a I know you're gonna say probably Deny. So let's
say if it was me, I'm gonna be honest. Denis
not happening. They might be talking to him. Two things.
They're about the film Doom Doom Doune at the end
of this year begin next year. He's gonna be busy,
and if they if they're having issues with Chris Nolan
and Alfonso. I think Denny is another guy that's not
gonna He doesn't strike me. It's like he'll play a ball,
but not completely. Like. I don't think he's gonna bend
over like maybe some other people might. I'll say ben
Ford maybe because bending over always could be good.
Speaker 3: But Jonathan Nolan would Christopher Nolan's I think everyone on
this list would bend over one way or another.
Speaker 2: But Denny wouldn't just stretch up this metaphor.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't like what was Edgar's film.
Speaker 2: I haven't even got back there. Let's see here.
Speaker 3: It was like, I don't know, just very different genre.
Speaker 2: You might have saw his war movie.
Speaker 4: Okay, did Baby Driver?
Speaker 2: No, that's Edgar right, Okay, so Edgar Berger Berger? No, No, no, Edgar,
who did you say? Yeah? Then del was right?
Speaker 3: Wait job everyone, I'm so confused. Now, that's not one
of the directors that you that you pitched right.
Speaker 4: Where you said that.
Speaker 2: Edgar Wright's on that list. Yeah, okay, so there's ed.
Speaker 4: You get this fucking Burger guy out of here.
Speaker 2: Edward Berger. It was Conclave, which is a great movie
and all quite on the Western Front. Both nominated for
Best Pictures.
Speaker 4: So that's Edward and Edward.
Speaker 2: No, I did not. And then there's Edgar Edgar Wright.
He did Baby Driver, Sean the Last Night, so.
Speaker 3: That oh okay, I like both these eds.
Speaker 2: Wait have you even seen those Conclaves are all quite
on the Western front.
Speaker 3: No, but I like how he was nominated.
Speaker 4: He likes an Oscar movie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: The last Oscar movie I saw was phenomen It was
a great, great experience. It wasn't an arc you were
going to go on you were getting into Oscar movies
or something. Wasn't that a thing?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: And then I had to watch like a thousand.
Speaker 2: That was I didn't remember last year. Weren't you sold
on the Brutalist?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, even I was like, I don't know if I'm
fucking this movie. Like this trait is amazing, Like I'll
sit there for all four.
Speaker 3: It's like a hype title waves, you know, the waves
go in and out, and if I don't get it
on that high point, it's just it's lost and I'll
I'll find it in the channel at.
Speaker 2: Some point, des ranting one going, how's that going?
Speaker 3: We're on war?
Speaker 4: You know he's not playing.
Speaker 2: I saw the title Psyequest like, oh, there's no He's
like you maybe on the sequel. I'll I'll get back
to it. No, No, not happening. Yeah, plants change?
Speaker 5: Is this Cynquist?
Speaker 4: We beat celebrating what you steal?
Speaker 2: Whatever? Oh the hot I beat the game with the
hot animate chick. What a surprise. Kirkland beat that one.
Speaker 4: You know, Hey, whoa he used the Teddy Bear skin?
Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, thank you. Defender a lot of college football.
Speaker 1: So but.
Speaker 3: Speaking of the Eds, I mean, yeah, ed Edgar Right
or Edward Right, No, Edgar Wright. I feel like that one.
I'm drawing to more not just because I've seen movies
under his banner, but it just the vibe is more
of a fun time as opposed to I'm assuming Conclave
is probably a very dry, depressing.
Speaker 2: It has some dark comedy. It's about them replacing the pope.
The pope has died and they're having a conclave to
the side, but there are some good comedy beats in there.
Speaker 3: And then the Western Front sounds like a just a
war set serious, that's drama. I want some of that
in Bond, but like I don't want a whole Bond
adventure just being that, I think it's definitely a a
specific cocktail that needs to be, you know, shaken, not stirred.
And I trust the right man on the job, and
it's look at this or Denny, you know, if he
just drops everything and wants to cop out bend over
upside down.
Speaker 2: Deny's always choice. I would love it because Nolan is like,
because he's Nolan, sorry, Chris, Nolan christ specifically now Jonathan.
This this for me is all a very kind of
safe list other than Deniy and Edgar, and I don't
think any of those two will do it. I think
Denis obviously, I gave made my points, but I would
love that because Nolan did Batman, then Denise did Bond.
I would like that kind of them not doing the
same thing but something similar. But yeah, it's not gonna
be Deny Edgar. I just some of those, like those
earlier films, Like I just I don't know if and
this has come from a guy that does not really
love Scott Pilgrim. I just I worry about the humor
part and if that starts to weigh up too much.
I trust him enough to know, like baud shouldn't just
all be humorous, but I just worry whatever type of
humor in there might be not the right fit. Jonathan Nolan,
I don't know. Paul King is very talented, so if
you were to I would That's like the funnest experiment
is see, hey, what is a guy that does Paddington
and Wonka do a Bond?
Speaker 4: Like I would love to see that. Yeah, that's the
pivot I want to see.
Speaker 2: And those films are feel very British, so it's like, well,
I think they got that part down, and then I
think Burger's like this safe choice. Edward is the safe
choice because he's done two nominated films I just feel
like with him, I know exactly the type of Bond
movie we get, and I feel like Amazon would be
happy with that. And it's no insult because I think
con Clave was you know, I talk ten or fifteen
last year. I really liked it. I just I want
the first bond for the new one, just like we
got with Peers, and I guess he ken Connery, but
with Craig, like something really flashy, and maybe he will
do that. Maybe Edward would surprise me like, oh, I
was expecting this, but he gave me that, And I
guess you can make that case. We'll oh Edgar Wright,
but there there's certain type of flashes I want and
I don't know that there's a flash. There's like a
flash bang and Edgar Wright could be a f and
I love last Night and so so I could be wrong,
Like there's he peels back to commedy there. Maybe ask
me again in November after Running Man when he him
and Glenn Palell do that. I want to see. That's
pretty action warrented, but don't Also you kind of check
out bonds here and there, depending on Golden Geeks. But
Paul King, would that make you go see Itter? But
that's just the choice. He said. That would be a
fun one day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm potentially open to seeing these movies, and I
think the best place to jump in is when they
recast get a new Bond, new timeline, and that would
be the easiest place for me to make my entry
point walk in that door. Especially. I'm sure I'll be
hyped on Bond after just playing an endless amount of
Io's Bond game, which is probably gonna come out maybe
before this. This first movie would be I don't I
don't really know the time games take a lot longer,
but I don't know that already announced and has trailers.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't think this movie is out to
like twenty seven the earliest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, So I think Edgar Wright
is one. I actually don't want to do this because
I like because he's like kind of the writer. He
always writes and directs his stuff, or at least for
the most part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if not, he'll like a co writer. But he's
and Last Night so Baby Driver.
Speaker 4: I love those movies, and I really I just want
to keep making his weird stuff and I don't Yeah,
I don't want not even that. I don't want him
to have the shackles that Amazon would eventually put on him,
but I just want him to go make his weird,
cool creative stuff and not feel like he has to
fit like that Bond template. I'd rather see someone else
take a swing at it. So I think the Paul
King one, actually, yeah, is the most interesting to me
because it is certainly a pivot. But like I loved
Wonka and Paddington are like, what the best reviewed movies
of all time or something, right, So it's like, I
think that'd be cool. He's obviously great at making movies,
so he could do it. So who is the Fallout person?
Speaker 2: Jonathan Nolan So honestly, Wright of the Dark Knight was Okay,
that's his brother, you know what.
Speaker 4: I'm also down for that. I think that would be
really cool. Now that is a big swing and potentially
a bit of a risk, but I don't know. I
feel like Fallout super popular, people are really hyped for
season two, So I think there's you know, Fallout and
Bond I think are quite different, but I do think
there are some similaries there in terms of action, Like
there's so many different types of characters you're putting in
a Fallout World. I'm sure you could grab some of
that onto a Bond type character. And uh yeah, I
mean I think the scale is there as well, so
I and set pieces that kind of thing, So I
think that's a decent pick as well. So honestly, it
is a pretty solid, solid list of potentials. Denie is
another one. I absolutely don't want him to do this.
I want him to make I don't know what next,
but if he's done with Dune, I'm actually fine with
that because, like you know, Blade Runner, Dune go on
to some other huge sci fi thing, whether it's IP,
like a previous IP or something new for him. I
just kind of want him to do that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: And we all know Denise hates dialogue, and I feel
like you need dialogue in a Bond movie. So I
don't know, maybe he's not the best.
Speaker 2: Can't say Bond, James Bond in this one. We're not
let do that this time. You can't do a French accent.
So but and well the rumor, so what was suppose
that one? Denie is he's working on a film. People
think he's chasing the oscar. That sounds very similar to Oppenheimer.
It's like a war Dot biopic type of movie. But
then the rumor is that him and W. B wan
to do Dune and just capitalize on the success, like
after doing his next movie is like an Oppenheimer type
of like this is a biography about some war, some
bomb or something like that.
Speaker 4: You know, that's really disappointing. But hopefully after that he
goes back to making cool, big sci fi stuff.
Speaker 2: That's really disappointing before it goes I guess they give
him some credit. It sounds bad. But for Jonathan Nolan,
he wrote Memento, he wrote also with his brother as well,
but Prestige, Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rise, Interstellar one
hundred and three episodes. I don't think he writ them all,
but of Person of Interest and then Westworld as well,
which I was actually a fan of that first season,
never went to anything more. And then director he Oh, no,
I'm complete. Who the fuck I'm giving him shit for
no reason? He not direct Trance. Oh, I'm completely wrong.
I apologize.
Speaker 4: Is it a third Nolan brother out of the No,
that's the guy.
Speaker 2: It's the guy who was the cinematog er, cinematographer for
one of the Dark Knights. I think it's Wally Feister
or something like that. He went on to direct I
Will find Out Transcendence. So I was wrong.
Speaker 4: But next up Jonathan Nolan and Wally Feister.
Speaker 2: Because they're just like they're in the Nolan camp, right
and because it was always like from the from.
Speaker 5: The team of Nolan's brother one's is he like a
cousin or something?
Speaker 4: What's going on here?
Speaker 2: And I think I'm in the bloodline. Okay, here we
got we got the yeah, Wally Feister, yeah, okay. So
and he didn't even write that all. But I will
say this U what also like scares me a little
bit that Nolan's Jonathan Nolan's never directed actually a single movie.
It's just been TV. And that to me is like,
I don't know if I want that for Bond, Like
that's I don't know. And as I said, board, they're
not on the list. We'll talk about him tonight. My
two other choices i'd love would be Steve McQueen. He
directed Shame and he's done a lot of other British stuff.
But then my other choice already sound twenty years later.
I would very much love Danny Boyle. At one point
he was supposed to direct a bond scheduling, conflicts happened,
and then he didn't. I would love to see what
he and get Garland on there as a writer, I
would love to see get some iPhones on there, like
I don't know, let's see what's happening. But that Danny
Boil to me is that's the type where that's like
Paul king Woods like, Okay, this is a style. Let's
see if it's gonna work or not. And I think
like Danny Boyle also, like he does a bunch of
his own stuff, but he's done ip before too, so
uh but uh, any of these flowed your boat, you know,
same things. You're kind of in and out and bonds
here and there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in and out.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: I mean I'm always down for a Nolan. I mean,
there's three brothers and so let's get the let's get
Johnny in there, let's see what he's capable of. I'm
all for that, Jonathan. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think that the family dinners get really awkward?
If you know Nolan's whole life has expressed how much
he wants to do James Bond, and he's probably like,
guess what, I'm shooting this ball thing.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he's flexing. He's flexing.
Speaker 4: Now, holyfeister just breaks through the window like on the
take the.
Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't realize that there were three Nolan brothers.
But well the third one, Like is that true? Is
that all true?
Speaker 2: That is true? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Is it really? Holy?
Speaker 2: Third Nolan brother is a contracted killer. Legitimately he is
in prison now, but he he was a hit man.
Speaker 5: So he's gonna help write some story plots for James
Bond or something like that.
Speaker 2: Maybe I guess you could go to him and maybe
you cast him, you cast him as big comeback story,
you know. But yeah, the third Nolan is a contracted killers.
Speaker 3: The villain of Bond. It's like a contract.
Speaker 5: He was the first one who tried to get Bond.
Speaker 2: Real life aging for everybody in the Nolan family is
including this except for Christopher Nolan, like even his convicted
killer brother. But do you have a pick at it?
So you're you're on.
Speaker 5: The Jonathan Nolan you want to get let's get John
in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnney, we'll see you like fall enough, so yeah
we'll see we should hopefully get it's you know, we
got the game coming out. There was rumors of an
actor but we're not to talk about right now because
no one's see anything he's done, so we'll see in
the future. And I think we're a long ways away
from that. But yeah, then you did announce a director
here and get fucking going Scott when was no time
to die twenty twenty one, Right, we're getting like a
rise of Scott, like we're getting a rise of Skywalker
situation where remember they paid to partner at the studio
and then they bought another billion to buy James Bond
just a flat out, so they've spent a lot of
money to really do like no I'm not saying I'm
not doing nothing, but just to kind of like kick
tires round like maybe this person, maybe this, but we
will see. Let's take our last ad break. We're gonna
have a bunch of random stuff coming up the last
little bit here, so we'll be right back and we're back.
So this, Dyan, you can put in your thoughts if
you want to on Strangers Chef too, if you watch
the trailer I did.
Speaker 4: But I'll bow you guys can tackle the.
Speaker 2: Day. I'm gonna throw it at you because so Austin,
we did a retrospective for this and then the original
plan for this film release was they were gonna release
all three films in one year. It was it was
something like summer fall and then end a year like
like within a year like January, right, something like that,
not a counter year, but within a within twelve months
they were gonna release. That first one came up, I
think did well enough, but for whatever reason, they decided
to push it, probably because that was admb idea to
be like, let's release them all in twelve months. But
either way, it's coming out September twenty sixth, and Taylor
in our discord, you shared a gift of a train leaving,
so it's like, oh, is that that means he's out
on these reviews? So what do you think about this trailer?
And are we still doing this or has the train left?
Are we? You know, because like we've said, now that's
being so busy with a lot of stuff. We had
to be a bit more picky and choosy. His Strangers chapter
two is uh, is that train gone? No?
Speaker 5: I'm I meant in the sense that the train has
left the station for them, like them putting this movie out.
Speaker 2: It's well, they already filmed those two movies I think
so they and.
Speaker 5: I don't know why they would wait so long as
they did, so, like the hype is gone, My energy
is gone. That being said, like I'm still gonna be
there to review it. If you guys are in for
reviewing it, then I feel like we gotta go see
this through sidering the fact that we've done the retro,
we've done the homework, and here we are chapter two,
so I feel like we got to get into it.
But after watching the trailer, I just felt like there
was nothing, really nothing was doing it for me with this,
Like I've already seen good the series of well, I
mean Halloween too, already did the hospital kind of like
escape like girl in distressed kind of scenario. And I
like Halloween too, I think it's great, But in this,
like the claustrophobic like close building kind of escapee kind
of storyline, I don't know, I'm not there for it.
And just the one line too, where the sheriff is
he's still in that bar, still in that diner, and
they're talking like, oh you know what about the murder
sheriff like, well, the girls alive and everyone in the
bar looks at him. I was like, well, clearly we
know the whole fucking town is in on this. They
give away a little bit of stuff too in the trailer.
That's unfortunate. So I think this is a movie that
should have not been They should have they should have
just dialed it back a little bit and not go
for something so grand, because I feel like even that
problem saying this is like a three parter. I don't
even know what they're gonna do for part three now
at this stage, Like what in the town that? Oh,
I guess, but we know that they live.
Speaker 2: Down She escapes the town and then she comes back
like with Frank Castle and like you read it read and.
Speaker 5: She's Gwen Stacy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd say, h say similar, look hair and stuff.
So I don't think they spend the whole movie in
the hospital. I will say that I think there's gonna
be a lot of frind the town.
Speaker 5: And she goes back to the cabin. It looks like,
for whatever fucking reason.
Speaker 2: You always have to do that in horrmon in part two.
Speaker 5: In part two, No.
Speaker 2: You don't want to read a script umbry then, but
like you know, you always go back to where it
all started, you know you have to. But I don't know.
I didn't love that first one. I don't mind them
doing this whole thing with the town because at least
what I took from this trail is I was not excited,
but I was like, Okay, at least this looks different
than what our complaints were. The first one was Okay,
it's just a lesser than remake. So I'm still down.
But the only way I'm down is I have have
to be with one of you to see it. This
is not a movie I can see alone, not for
fear factor, just because I need another person there to
have like a so bad, it's so good experience, because
I think watching this alone would just be a very
solemn time for myself. No, much doesn't matter how much
buckets of corn I got. That ain't gonna help me,
you know. So Tayo's Guy's et finger up.
Speaker 5: I will say it because you reminded me. One thing
that the previous movie you haveter One did very very
well was playing with your peripheral vision. I really liked
that they did a really good job at that. So
I think in the trailer there was a really really
good scene of just this long hallway in the basement
of the hospital and I like that, so I think
they do do some really good filming stuff and the
angles and the camera works. So hopefully I don't have
to save the movie. I don't know, but we'll see.
Speaker 2: Kirklin, Where's your Train?
Speaker 3: I had a look at the calendar because I wasn't
sure what's coming out at that time, so you're luckily
here twenty six. I think it comes on the same
night as Peacemaker.
Speaker 2: I know there's well, yeah it does because Piece marries
me on the Thursdays. But we can always see the
strength we can move it. I'm there.
Speaker 3: I'm there for this movie.
Speaker 5: Come on now.
Speaker 3: I started this journey. I was kind of vibing with
this trailer in a so I don't even want to
say it's so bad, so good. I like the music
choice a lot. It's one of my favorite J Cole
songs of all time, even though I don't think it
was the actual song. It was just the sample that
he pulled from it, but got the vibe going, and
I just kind of remembered some some fun stuff from
that first movie and just thinking about the potential where
we're gonna be going. I don't think this trailer was
like really good at selling, just like, yeah, fuck yeah,
her against the town, let's do it. But I don't know.
I also feel like another thing in this trailer, it
seems like they've already overstayed their welcome with like just
this whole idea of the town being avolve with the
whole Strangers murders and everything, and me saying that before
we can get the second movie, let alone, the third
part of this adventure is something. But I mean, I'm there,
I'm so down. I'm definitely I'll see it with you lads.
Speaker 4: For sure.
Speaker 3: I'll come across the pond if I have to, But yeah,
we'll go there.
Speaker 2: One of the ways, you know. But there you go.
We were trailer and you got to hear some geek
for his business discussed on air. So I guess Strangers
chapter two look out, why there's review coming to you.
In September, I quick draft up to eight here, not
doing all them, just doing one of them, because you know,
we got the superho draft ending in about a month,
and I thought, oh, Dyln't Dylan had it maybe in
the books here, But you know, my good old friend there,
Jimmy Gunns, James Gunn and God dropped a little nugget
this week, So people that don't know the superho Drafters,
we all draft ten actors for the year, and if
they're casting a Marvel or DC property as a new character,
we get points with them. Right now, currently we have
a month left for Home Con. That's when we'll switch over.
Taylor's got My Only, Scott, Donny, Yan, Mark Hamilt, Singourney Weaver, Millie,
Bobby Brown, Sidney Sweeney, Who's his two Stark, Kierana Shipka, Simone, Ashley,
Kelley Murphy and Hugh Grant was zero points. Kirklan's got
Keanu Reeves, Jennifer Holland, Austin Abrams, Shamir Anderson, Frey, Allen Sophia,
while Jenner, Tega, Eleiah Brown, all Right, Boyd Holbrook and
Amanda Fix zero points. Dylan's got Ananda Armas, Sadie Sync
with one point for Brand New Day, Shawn Gunn, Murray, Barlette,
Glenn pal Kaylee Swinney, Josh O'Connor, Stephen Yen, l Pernell
and ao at A. Barry uh Like said the one
point there, and then I have Smorrow Weaving Lea, said
Jody Comer, Adam Driver, Daisy Edgar Jones Katie O'Briant, Lee
Young Jay, Karen Gillan, Ryan Gosling, and the newly cast
Paum Clembing Teeth is just a fucking robot in Superman,
and she was. If you don't know my my star picks,
that means they got two points. Very it's clutch. But
we still got four, and we still got Superman, especially Superman.
Sean Gunn can pop up as another role, like there's
still some there's still some time for some things to happen,
so we'll see. But yeah, I guess Ironheart if anyone
pops up an iron Heart. So we still got three
more projects.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Scorny Weaver I think might pop in there
and get Taylor a point.
Speaker 5: Maybe I keep getting to the shaft when it comes
to the Superhero draft. They're on the list, I pull
them off the list and then fuck.
Speaker 2: Well maybe if you got maybe, if you got feel.
Speaker 3: Like some self shafts going on.
Speaker 5: Sorry, So we'll see.
Speaker 2: It's a close race. But you know, James gun if
I get the win, well done, so I appreciate it.
I wanted to not this year because I uh, because
like we'll have our winners and whatnot, and we'll talk
about it maybe off air, but I would like to
enact rule that because also we're doing this for a
ten year, but I would like to enact a rule
that in the future, next time we all redraft that
the winners are prizes. Maybe we could do pick a
retro or something like that, because you know we're doing
this this time, you know, because.
Speaker 4: We don't convenient bring this up when you have this
very I.
Speaker 2: Said not this year, watch a shame too, No, harder, faster. No.
I meant literally the twenty twenty five one when we
draft that year going forward, like put a little steak
on it, you know, something fun because or I like
that we've done.
Speaker 4: I do feel like all of our we should put Yeah,
none of our drafts really have any steaks. We got
to get more stakes.
Speaker 2: Going on, whether it's a movie or a game something
where it's like, hey, winner, you get to pick. And
that's why there's only four drafts, so it's not like
a crazy amount where it's like, okay, you know, so
I think we should do that. I'm not saying this year,
not saying because I got the win, I'm not making
watch Shame faster or harder.
Speaker 5: It's getting it like really really heavy, like winner losers
pay their rent or something for the for the month.
I'm just kidding that it's brutal.
Speaker 3: You pulled back.
Speaker 4: Are you doing okay? Financially?
Speaker 2: Tailor?
Speaker 5: I got to win this draft?
Speaker 2: Please, you know, crash out during coong. Okay, So now
we got some questions, some fun questions that are all
over the map. So Charlie Randell asks, after sitting on
twenty eight years later for a little now, how does
it stack up versus Sinners? For you guys? It's constantly
battling for that number one spot for me? Don't you've
not seen Sinners yet?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: That is correct, So I cannot weigh in unfortunately, so
you can't.
Speaker 2: But I want to ask you where is twenty years
later just sitting in your movie like rankings right now?
Speaker 4: That is a good question. So I think my one
and two right now are and I have not seen
I talked about recently. I've not seen very much of
this year. I'm not a good podcaster in that way,
but right now it's between that and Mickey seventeen, which
are very different. And so I really got a weigh
that and think back on that. I think I need
a little. I think I need more than just a
few days for twenty eight to sync in and see
how I feel about that, because I really really love
both those movies, and I'll probably rewatch Mickey maybe in
maybe in like January next year before Golden Geek so
and maybe even twenty eight I'll rewatch that at some
point too. So that's my one and too. But yeah,
I don't have an order at this moment. It's a
cop out answer, but that's how I'm feeling.
Speaker 2: No, that's a that's a good one or two. So
what about you, mister Field? Where where is that ranking
for you? Right now? Between the two? Twenty days later?
In Sinners?
Speaker 5: Yeah, when I left, when I left the theater for
twenty eight years, I was I was torn because Sinners
is freaking fantastic and I've been on the rocky Road
to Dublin all fucking month. Listen to that that jam,
you know, the soundtrack is absolutely the bees Knees, and
I'm oh, fuck, I'm there. I'm still there right now.
But I need to rewatch the movie. It's out on
vod I'm gonna wait for it to hopefully drop on
streaming soon because I feel like I need to give
it one more watch. The YouTube clips are just not
doing it justice. I need to sit down and watch
that start to finish. Yeah, the YouTube clips, yeah, usually
just one Rocky Road Dublin clip notably, but I just
need to be watched the whole the whole movie.
Speaker 2: Anytime that sound hits, it was like.
Speaker 5: Holy shit, I'm gonna cal Oh it's good. I think
I've been pissing bads now because I put the song
I played in the car. We're all driving steams in
the back and I'm like, we're off to reap the cord.
Ghosts and goblins just fucking going hard at it.
Speaker 2: It's like, do you have the rent.
Speaker 4: I'll make sure you're in the car, You're listen to
that song when you're at home. You just have like
the alpha clips on YouTube, just on the TV long
alternh man, jeez.
Speaker 2: Kirk.
Speaker 3: Uh Yeah. Twenty eight years later, I think I have
above Sinners pretty pretty adamantly.
Speaker 2: I I was.
Speaker 3: I haven't rewatched Sinners, but I had some some minor
grapes and crimes with uh with some things that happened
in the film. Uh So, yeah, well, we'll see how
I like it on on a rewatch, but yeah, I know,
twenty years later, it was just a lot more of
a something of Genesis Square. I don't know, there's some
it was like some some some ice grapes, you know.
It was like something a little bit more special.
Speaker 4: Iceppes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, ice grapes.
Speaker 4: You get those in rose Field or wherever that fake
city you went to recently.
Speaker 2: Broke Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 3: Rose Field? Actually Rosewood?
Speaker 4: What was that name of that city? That just is
not real? But thin like, you get some ice grapes
from rose whatever the fuck.
Speaker 2: Somewhere. Oh, I'm just an Orange County.
Speaker 3: With Cherryville. It's been a while, so I've been Cherryville.
That was a whole nother company ago.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 3: It's been a minute.
Speaker 4: A lot of ice grapes there.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, you take grapes and you put them in
the freezer. Let's say you get ice crapes.
Speaker 2: They're still only the greatest bit kit Okay.
Speaker 3: Cool, or you pick them at four o'clock in the
morning and they make ice wine out of ice grapes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do that a little little.
Speaker 3: History for you. No, but a GV member used to
a long time ago. That's a riddle for the day,
We'll let you do.
Speaker 4: On that one, they are going out of their way
to fuck me.
Speaker 2: Just try and say that again. Ice crapes talking ice grapes. Yeah,
right now it's ranked one because I think, honestly, like
I gave those movies both to ten, but I think
some of those nitpicks Kurkling had, I wasn't as strong
as Kirkling on them, but I still had similar issues
or nitpicks with them. I just don't think they affected
me as much as they did for him, And then
for me, I think that twenty days later, especially the
third act, that just hit me more on an emotional level.
Don't get me wrong, Sinners has some good emotional stuff,
but the third act, that's just a heavy third act.
And I think the contra between it being so heavy
and emotional, but then, as I said the review, just
being raw and nasty was so good of how you
go back and forth. It's like how Tarantino can go
back and forth between like drama and comedy, just like that,
he can just shift gear very easily. Sinners, I think
kind of I don't think they shift gears like that,
but I don't think that's the point I think there
that's a more longer, continuous journey on this similar tone.
But at the same time, I could make the case
that with Sinners, I think they're ensembles better like all
their characters, multiple characters, I think have a bigger journey.
I think that movie is longer too, but I just
feel like are more fleshed out. So as of right now,
it's twenty eight but that is the one and two.
I'm gonna wait because Crave has Sinners in like a
week from now, and then when twenty years Later comes on,
I'll watch it because Emily's a fan that series. So
I'll be watching those soon close and maybe I'll try
and do it like back to back because I think
it's gonna be one of those that I'll I'll need
to see them both again because maybe those issues with
Sinners are like completely gone from me, or maybe they uprise,
or maybe they're stuff with twenty eight years Later that
I see and I go. Even now, people have talked
about the last five minutes and what that character is
for twenty eight years Later, like what it's kind of
riffing on. I'm like, oh, that makes that movie even
more fucked up. So now even hearing other things are
like Jesus, that's like, that's quite a shit, and that
got be even more excited for number two of like
what are they gonna do with this? So yeah, right
now twenty years later and uh, we'll see if that
happens because we got a lot of movies still coming up.
So I hope, uh hope some of these challenges it.
That'd be nice, but uh let's see. So thank you,
Charlie Clay. I'll go first on this one. Bartender here
wondering what the GV crew's recent favorite beer slash cocktails
have been during the recent summer months. I'm straight edge,
never haven't had to drop a liquor, so I got
nothing going on.
Speaker 4: And then my lime Ricky's, which is that one time
we slip some in your in your.
Speaker 2: I'll say knowingly, I've never had any alcohol. I did
have one one time when I picked up a bottle
at a club, but I spat out right away because
everyone was a shock and I was like, don't do that.
And then I so I've.
Speaker 4: Tasted their ice grapes were used to.
Speaker 2: Travis, but yeah, no, no blue wine.
Speaker 4: How could you do that?
Speaker 2: Ferment to for use my grandfather. Oh you guys, what
you're drinking this summer?
Speaker 3: Boy, in terms of what I've been sipping on this
summer recently, got.
Speaker 5: Sipping on pretty much gasoline.
Speaker 4: Uh no, that.
Speaker 5: Was too good.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I was we were drinking.
Speaker 2: Should have set up. I had to. I'm done for
the next.
Speaker 3: I got a I think it was Phillips Brewing was
the brand. It was like a combo pack. There was
a pale ale in there. The pills ner I usually
don't like the darker.
Speaker 2: I thought you just said the pills. I'm like, oh man,
we gotta have a conversation off air, like what you
enjoying the summer? I thought you were just done this
guy clips on the clips. I thought you just said
dub pills. And I was like, oh no, Kirkland's new
job is really doing a number on them.
Speaker 3: My go to cocktail to make myself would be a Caesar.
I'm a big Caesar fan. I believe I believe you
guys don't have them down there, cocktail Clay. I believe
you call them bloody Mary's because you guys don't have
Colmato juice, which is just a cardinal sin to me.
But yeah, No, that's usually my go too, So those
have been my SIPs. A couple of ice grapes, chase
down whatever, uh chin cocktail straight and narrow. I think
I had in my parents house that was pretty yummy.
So yeah, I recommend that one.
Speaker 2: Water.
Speaker 3: It was a good secondary. Water's good.
Speaker 2: Water's good.
Speaker 5: H two O. I am definitely all about the Caesars.
I've already started Caesars this season. They are They are
so good. You get the little stick in there with
a little bean, a little sausage on there, and you
got that drinking this summer. Co just such a good drink,
such a good drink. Other than that paralyzers, I haven't
had one of those in a hot minute, but once
it gains really hot, I'm definitely gonna get one of them.
Because they're so freaking expensive, but god, they're so good.
Speaker 3: I'm so pricey about them, just like I have some
some garat is rand yet Kirk.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like no garnish because literally what I used
to make them, I can't remember.
Speaker 4: It's just it's a milk and milk and Coker pepsi.
Speaker 5: And Coker pepsi. Yeah, and I have had them with
root beer. I remember at Boston Pizza they made me
want root beer and it was really flavorful. But yeah,
it's my mom.
Speaker 4: Makes a just beautiful paralyzer.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm there that.
Speaker 4: And my dad makes a killer Caesar. Yeah, you guys
should call.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you're there.
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 5: Last, but not least, black cider cherries. Holy fuck, I
want one sip of that and I'm I'm my allergic
reaction kicks in, but it's worth it.
Speaker 3: It's so good.
Speaker 5: It's so fucking good.
Speaker 4: God damn takes me back to that one party we
had in my house. But thankfully someone who's there like
about an ambulance, so we just had the ambulance out
in the middle of the call to sac helped Taylor
out when.
Speaker 5: He was I don't remember there being an ambulance.
Speaker 4: I thought it was an ambulance, right.
Speaker 5: I just remember Kirkland just giving me those jagger bombs.
Speaker 2: It was Red as the Devil's Dick that he.
Speaker 4: Read his episode six x' six. Yeah, I think you
guys ever have a aperol sprits. I feel like I
discovered that like two years ago. Not that I'm the
one who created or anything like that, but it's a
it's a banger. I don't even know what's in it.
It's just magic. It's like a potion. You've ever had that?
Speaker 5: No, I have them.
Speaker 4: Next time you're out, order April sprits. It's quite quite
nice a or all sprits, Aperol sprits.
Speaker 3: Okay, awl write it down?
Speaker 2: Can I have an app or all?
Speaker 4: They would probably know what you're talking about it they're
probably but yeah, I I recently went on like a
nice lengthy bike ride which ended kind of near my house.
There's this cocktail place called called Nice Life, which is
like the most generic name of all time. That's kind
of like a lot of Mexican sort of themed things,
and they had a few really good cocktails there. I'm
on their website. Let me read a couple of these
because I just love, like just super pretentious like drink description.
Do you guys ever like just read the stupid ass
descriptions they have for like beers whenever you go to
like brewery and it's just so obnoxious. Let me give
you this is this is this is the c c
Rosa Cocktails, A lush blend of guava, mango and smooth
tequila with a citrus lift, tropical, balanced and refreshingly real,
refreshingly real.
Speaker 3: I would order that. Yeah, they got me with that description.
Speaker 4: How about this one, the Dawn Poco cocktail bursts with
juicy grapefruit, orange juice, lime juice, lemon juice, smoothed tequila,
and a kiss of salt, refreshing and rooted in Mexican tradition.
Speaker 3: They're two for two for me, right now, keep going.
Speaker 4: There's another one that had a funny. Oh, this one's
so pretentious. This is the Welcome Margarita, a crisp, citrus
forward cocktail bursting with zesty lime, smoothed tequila, warmth, a
touch of orange, and a briny whisper of sea salt. Refreshing, bright,
and endlessly sippable. But these drinks, they were as good
as they sound. I just I just love how pretentious
those descriptions are. But and they had like a backstory
lore for each of them too, is pretty crazy experience.
So yeah, I definitely gotta go back to that place
a couple times this summer. It's a really nice place.
It's like right on the river where there's some nice
walking to do, So it's a great spot.
Speaker 3: Nice did you make it home.
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 4: I was on my bike though, so I was a
little I was a wee bit wobbly for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to help. Clay did answer you and
said not to worry. I only capital capitals. Uh make
bloody important.
Speaker 3: Damn, I don't even know they sold Clemato in America.
Speaker 4: He's probably got a guy at the border.
Speaker 2: Yeah that makes me happy. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Clay also asked if you had to be a character
in any Blumhouse for me, which I also will say,
I don't know. I think I think this kind of
happened in May. I don't know when. Somehow the trends
started asking some just very random, weird questions. I'm digging
at patrons, so keep them coming next week. So, like
we said, the questions can be for the topics we have,
but for anything else. So everybody that's been sitting in
some just different questions like this one appreciated. If you
had to be a character in any Blumhouse horror movie,
which character would you be and why? Creative answers welcome,
Night swim answers welcomed as well.
Speaker 4: Night swim would be cool. I'd love to be a
swimming pool. I feel like I feel like I missed
the second part of this question. Can you guys chuck
what are some Blumhouse horror movies at me? And he
chucks some at me?
Speaker 3: Right here?
Speaker 2: I can give you a bunch of from here, because
I pulled. It's just to confirm this was tough, because like,
all the leads are kind of I'm not gonna say lame,
but they're not like the best. And then I don't
want to be a killer. But you got like obviously
the newest Halloween ones. I got Black Clansmen, you got
the Purge movies. Uh, insidious, you got a Happy Deaf Day.
You got to get Out. That's my answer to the
dad from Get Out, the guy who said we vote
Obama's mine. Uh you say you got your piplet. No,
I'm joking.
Speaker 3: You got you had me there.
Speaker 2: You got Sinister, you got the Gifts. You could be
Gordo the Weirdo. If you wanted to be.
Speaker 4: Split, I mean I could be uh macavoy, that could be.
Speaker 2: Something whiplash, you could be JK. Simmons is just fucking
gaslight and bullier students to make them hurt themselves. Paranormal activity.
I think I said that Baby Acres too fairy. I
don't think the Dwayne Johnson one, but a lot of
random paranorm activity.
Speaker 4: Is there ever like a thing on screen or is
it always just like furniture moving around and crazy stuff
on screen?
Speaker 3: In one of them, I saw one of the ghosts
or some things. There's human human cults like activity. Is
it like a floating ghost type thing?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: No, it's likest Megan as well. If you want to
be uh.
Speaker 4: I'll be Megan two point zero for sure. The super bought.
Speaker 2: Yeah, none of the Bitch is back or whatever it is.
Speaker 4: The Bitch is back.
Speaker 3: Man, my my YouTube algorithm, I just get spanned the
Megan trailer. I I don't think i'd seen that trailer
before then, but man, I've seen it like nineteen times
in the last three days. So any hike for the
No'm next week or this week? I think I ever
seen the first one? You probably never will. Taylor used
to do The Big Never.
Speaker 5: I can't even recall when it's release date.
Speaker 2: Is it's I think this Friday or what on?
Speaker 5: Is it really?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe missing out of the movies you want to see,
like Drastic World. You know you could have saw that
the other night. But you can see Megan in the
lieu of it.
Speaker 4: Down a paralyzer and go we see Megan two.
Speaker 2: Points the rent Taylor.
Speaker 4: No, I'd be noxious in the theater, just searching through
the sofa looking for loonies and tunies.
Speaker 5: I'll go with someone else's going with me.
Speaker 2: Maybe one naga was enough. I will see this man
and happily when it comes to VOD, I don't need
to go to the theater. And that I think that
theater experience could not be fun. We had. Luckily they
moved after enough of us looked at them. But we
had some let's say, chatty young people from twenty eight
years later. We didn't talk about the review, but they were.
They got a couple eyes. Then they mad. Those girls,
Yeah they were. They didn't care about the movie. They
were talking the whole time. I shot them one look,
and then a couple of other people did. And then
about five minutes they went to the far left side
theater where we couldn't hear them. So still lame, but
granted I couldn't hear you anymore, so cool, do what
you want. But yeah, they didn't care about the movie.
They were in and out.
Speaker 5: They're on their spending their parents' money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the readers like I could use that money go
to me.
Speaker 2: Also, Clay says my Obi Wan Bartender, who taught me
everything was uh oh, everything was a Canadian there.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 2: I would pick the lead from I'm a big fan
of the series from Happy Death Day. I didn't know her
name was Tree Clebman. But I think the idea of
living obviously, my hope is that it still ends up
the same way that you end up successful. But two things. One,
the idea of reliving the same day over scary, but
I'd like to see what that would be like. And
two in both movies, she went through a personal and
junior during the mayor see something she didn't expect. So
I would like that kind of hits on. Like about
Time if anyone's has seen that, one of the instructions
has it's about a character that can travel back in time.
And one of the instructions, as Dad gives them, is
just go back live one of your days, like just
a normal, regular day, the exact same way, and you're
gonna appreciate a whole hell of a lot more. And he does,
and even the things that are sucky, he like gets
through them. So that's the approach I would take. So
I would see because, like I said, most of the
lead sucker. I don't want to be a I don't
want to be bad person. Like I'm not gonna say, oh,
Michael Myers, no, or I don't want to be like
Laurie Strode, who is like decades of PTSD. So I'm
going with some money that like you know, minor time travel.
Speaker 4: So nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a This is a tough one because
there's there's a lot of bad situations that these movies
throw the characters. I saw kicking and screamings on there,
and it got me excited. But it's not the kicking
and screaming that I no one loves, uh with some
very bizarre about becoming like an adult movie. So I
haven't seen it. I won't pick it. In terms of
like power set. My mind kind of went in visible man,
but like, I don't want to be just abusive ex husband,
and like invisibility what kind of a pervy ability too?
You know, like probably not the best one to take, uh.
So I think my safe answer here is gonna be
Rod Williams from Get Out If you remember that character
that is that's Chris's like buddy, Yeah, the girl's brother,
the TSA, the TSA guy. He misses like all of
the ship and then he comes in at the end
and saves the day, you know, saves him And uh,
it's probably just the safest answer out of all these,
probably really boring, but yeah, I don't know. I'm just
I was thinking about like Cabin in the Woods because
there's just a lot of interesting stuff going on in there.
But like, I don't know what character to pick. I
feel like all of our main cast just get very
violently murdered.
Speaker 5: The whole world dies in that movie.
Speaker 3: Spoilers, Yeah, movie, that's right, So not in that adventure.
Rod shouts up to Rod Taylor.
Speaker 5: Uh, well you said I'm running with it for sure.
I'm going in visible man. You know this is I
want I want I don't want to I want powers,
but I don't want to be character.
Speaker 2: He did not say what power in the movie. The
specific question was which character would you be? So you
want to be the abusive boyfriend that makes money.
Speaker 3: Though Travis.
Speaker 4: Speaking in the movies, even if he doesn't have.
Speaker 5: Twenty bucks, which which character? Which character I be? So yeah,
I can pick any character. Any that character comes with
the powers.
Speaker 2: But I can that's question.
Speaker 5: That's that's exactly you pick that character that if I
pick to be the demon from Parent Activity, I get
those demonic powers. But you're wrong character, You're I'm still
that character.
Speaker 2: I would have killed her.
Speaker 4: I actually would kill her.
Speaker 5: I would have gotten away with Yeah, but I just think,
you know, invisible powers, rocking that suit that has been
been fucking cool. I don't know what I would have
got up to, but I would have hopefully take power
what you're doing.
Speaker 2: That's the one that's that's only worse than like the
one comparables like Telconesis, you know, because I would always
pick that because he's been everyone's like, oh, that's a
fund up power, but like, here's a little more.
Speaker 5: I like to think I'd be more like Skinner from
Leave Extraordinary Gentlemen.
Speaker 4: Way too much of a deep cuts man.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Finally, to end off this cast, here, uh super
Mike asks. With summer now in full swing, I had
a fun season theme question for the crew. What movie
would you most want to watch on a giant screen
while chilling in a pool or on a beach on
a hot and lazy summer evening.
Speaker 4: This I like this question because it made me realize that,
like you know, seasonal movies, like you know, Christmas is
always watching certain things, certain vibes, even if it's not
like a specific Christmas movie, but just like I'm looking
for a certain vibe, same with like October, I want
to put on some scary things, but like that is
not the case for me. In the summer, I don't
or even the spring or any other time of year.
I think I think it's literally just those two times
a year. I don't think I have any other Like
it's June fourteenth, I better put on my favorite movie,
Like I don't think I have a summer movie. Maybe
I associate summer more with like being outside and not
being inside watching a movie. And also like this scene
that Mike is set up here of this outdoor like
pool movies, Like I've never experienced that in my life,
so it's hard for me, like like oh, when I've
been in a situation like that, what would it be
a movie? I don't want to watch. It just is
like a it seems like a fantasy.
Speaker 2: But in Langley there's a park that does it dawn
not too far. It's like a water park that they
have movie nights where it's pool and you get like
a tube and you can sit there. We want to
do it one year, but.
Speaker 4: That sounds great, and then I just have to go
to Langley. I guess, yeah, and then I have to
do that. But now I should. I should do that
this summer and I'll hopefully now I can come back Mike.
I'll come back with the question or with the answer
when I have that. But for now, I'll just I'll
just pick the S Pubs movie here. I'll go a
Team Beach movie. I think that would oh that perfect way,
perfect way to enjoy a nice and I feel like
you want something like that, something you can kind of
have pay attention to do, something you can doze off
to something come back in, something that's fun and light.
So I'll go with that, all right.
Speaker 2: I still have my Oh you do have your Patroon question. Sorry,
S Pubs. You're right, I forgot about that because it
came a little early. We always a batch note, so
that's my bad. So S pub still is a question.
We'll get to Taylor though. You got you gotta have
a good movie here, right.
Speaker 5: This is something I put thought into quite quite some time. Actually,
I've I've spoken to people that have they used to
do this back in the day when they were young,
and I've always wanted to experience this being on the
water and floating on a pool noodle or something like
that in the pool or on the lake and just
watching Jaws. I think that would just be so much fun,
because that was a big thing back in the day,
and that would just be such a fun experience just
to watch it. And I mean, if it was like
a time of day, I'd probably prefer like evening when
it's like still like super warm out, but like it's
just yeah, in the dark.
Speaker 2: I guess you get a bright scream at you late
after watch a movie when it's brightest on youre like
trying to see the screen.
Speaker 5: Like that whole setup.
Speaker 3: The whole setup is the summer. You're out on the pool, right,
You're probably not doing that at night time.
Speaker 5: I think it could be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I picture.
Speaker 3: You're just prune in a movie. Uh, A lot of
times that'd be I guess it's more of a winter
h festive movie at this.
Speaker 4: The second one is that when summary it's all at.
Speaker 3: The ski resort, but no I think I've seen the
first one. Actually I don't know I will see the
first one. Yeah, I mean there's so many I feel
like I could pull from just because like any movie
would fit that scenario. Really, I could watch The fucking
Lord of the Rings extended edition.
Speaker 4: Just gonna watch.
Speaker 2: A movie.
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, that's fair. Actually there's many movies that wouldn't.
Like pretty much, any like family movie, like a Disney
movie that could be fun too. Any Studio Ghibli movie,
which is the Hell's movie Castle that I'm just always
down for.
Speaker 4: That that's my new pick.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 3: But uh yeah no. I like the scene set up though,
and it made me realize I haven't really watched a
movie outdoors.
Speaker 4: And you got to pick one. You just named twelve.
Pick one one because I took that right.
Speaker 3: Kicking and screaming. We'll go kicking and screaming. It's soccer outside,
and the other one ase.
Speaker 4: One directed by Jonathan Nolan.
Speaker 2: It's kicking, screamings, get it's little settle in and it's
not the Welfare on one. Uh yeah, if I had
to pick one, I had two for this, But if
I had to pick one, I'd pick uh. Pirates of
Caribbean Black Pearl Get in the Water. I want something
like that where it's hot. So for me, it was
that which I thought might get picked. So if not,
then it would be Indiana Jones in the Temple of Doom.
I want that where it's the screens looking hot, it's
feeling warm, so you kind of just feel like you're
in that area. Offly, Pirates, you're on the water so
you can have that fun. Or if you're sitting on
the beach. If you're sitting on the beach and not
swimm you're gonna a little toasty where if you look
at Harrison for in that movie, he's he's fucking toned
his hair, but he's sweaty all the time. He's always
wet perspiration going on. So that's why fact I'd be
there sweating with Harrison Ford as he goes to the
Temple do And so yeah, that's all. I want, some
exploring movies, and I think those are good fun time
movies that may have some horror elements, but like, but
I think Pirates is the is the prime pick there.
If you're on water, that's that's a good time, you.
Speaker 4: Know, so nice, good pick.
Speaker 2: And then finally this time. You know, Aspubs thinks because
you know he's currently leading in GMOD. He has his power.
But don't worry, just give to give it a few weeks.
He's gonna choke again. You know it's okay. For episode
six sixty six, I want to know what's the angriest
you've ever been at a movie, either for it being bad,
waste your time, or something dumb happening in the movie,
or something else. If you guys don't have one, I
have a clear answer. If you need me to kill.
Speaker 4: Time, I I've got the one that immediately came to mind. Well,
actually I did think about this a little bit, cause
I'm we're not a super angry person, I think generally speaking,
but speaking of the Water Avatar, the wave of Water
came to mind because you know, fuck, fuck that movie,
and you know I'm over it now. But just like
seeing people loving the movie afterwards too, is like, come on,
we're really giving this movie a pass.
Speaker 2: This movie sucks you just I still understand three D. Doling.
We've gone over this.
Speaker 4: You know it's true. Yeah, I'm not as smart as
James Cameron, of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But then the other one that I think when I
thought about it more is, and there probably is a
few that I'm just completely blocked out of my mind.
But I was thinking, like, what are some like legacy
sequel type things, because those are like, Okay, now we're
dealing with my nostalgia and now we're changing it. So
like I thought Anchorman, but I think I was more
disappointed with that one. But I think my anger was
actually targeted at Incredibles too. That movie really fucking let
me down, and I was so mad at how bad
it was and how it just did not fulfill anything
I wanted from a sequel. All these years later, and Matt,
I've not rewatched that ever, and I maybe should at
some point to see if I actually still hate it
or if I just like was really salty at the time,
I know, like and set my expectations in a different place.
But I definitely remember being like pissed at that the
existence of that movie kind of tarnishing one of my
all time favorites. So that's probably my answer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can go back to the reviews on the feed.
It's a very depressing review with me and Don because
me and Don had similar aspect. Dell was more hurt
than me, but still it was not.
Speaker 4: I was even fighting for for worst movie the year
back when we did that a Golden Geeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a tough one.
Speaker 4: Curl.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 3: Two situations come to mind, one for the movie and
one for the actual whole experience, which I think would
be my actual answer. But to my my little honorable
mentiond be Venom two, let there be Carnage. I just
hated that movie so much, and like i'd seen, it
was in the extreme theater, which I've been too many times,
but forever reason, it seemed like they just had the
volume cranked and I feel like it was just in
my head because I just hated it so much. But
like all the carnage screams, it was just making me angry.
But no, the actual answer would have been I think
it was episode seven Star Wars release, not the first viewing.
I think it was like the second or third viewing.
I went with a friend that hadn't seen it yet
and bought tickets a little bit later, so we actually
were in like the front section. You know, there's like
different tears, you know, like where you actually walk down
stairs to watch a movie. That's always a bad sign
when you're when you're starting your adventure that way, and
uh yeah, it was like completely packed. I was like
kind of in one of these seats where you're looking
not only up but like directional also, so like for
a three hour movie, like you're your next kind of
in a compromising position. And there's a couple next to
me and my friend and like both of them were
like very clearly intoxicated and like just like talking the
whole time, Like you could smell the booze on them,
and like they would like giggle and it'd be like
yeah yeah, and it'd be like not even like a joke,
and they just like would like laugh and like repeat.
And it wasn't like someone like right next to me
or I just be like the fuck up, Like it
was like a little bit away, but they were like
so obnoxious that like I don't know, I just maybe
I wasn't confrontational, maybe like I am now in my
old age, but yeah, it was. It was a bad time.
And that's like a long movie too, And I felt
bad because my friend had seen the movie yet, so
that was like their first experience with episode seven, and
that was like my third viewing. So I'm like, oh man,
the movie's so fucking good, you're gonna have such a
good time with it. And then that's the case, which is.
Speaker 5: Your drunk and laughing and everything.
Speaker 3: It was me, Yeah, too many apparol spritz I was
just sluck.
Speaker 2: They gave me the aperol sprits. That's a good one.
Speaker 5: That's a good one day.
Speaker 3: I just misremember the whole situation.
Speaker 2: They don't talk to you anymore. I'm curious about yours
is data because there's like, well, if unless it's a movie,
I feel like there's two theater experiences I know for you,
but I don't know what you're going So I.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I honestly had to hone it down to one
theater experience that I could remember, because this is a
very difficult question, and I feel like you guys would
probably know better than I would. But my theater experience
that I honed in on was Lego Movie two with
that kid that was just letting him rip. And this
just was rent free in my head, and I'm just
ignoring me the whole time. While I was sitting right there.
Speaker 2: You supposed to do the slash I got an alf or.
Speaker 5: That kid just yeah, no no filter. He was just
like his pants were drenched. For sure. It was not great.
Speaker 2: I don't like hearing that, which is so funny because
there must have been a fan or something because I
was beside on the other side. But I didn't smell
a single.
Speaker 5: Like I was like this, and I turned and stared
at the mom like.
Speaker 3: You know, like a filter for Travis.
Speaker 4: You're suret was just absorbed the Maybe he was the mom.
Speaker 5: It could have been.
Speaker 2: I think you guys say that or that one time.
Remember we saw a saw and there was a form
employee there.
Speaker 5: Oh that fucking guy.
Speaker 4: Oh just.
Speaker 5: He was just he was making noise and yeah, he
was on his phone. He got up and down, walked
up and down the aisle, left his seat probably like
eight times during the movie.
Speaker 4: After the castle. The guy's name was I remember that
was something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was to the point. It's one of those
of like why you even here, Like you've left this
movie so many times to go have a cigarette, like
what's going on?
Speaker 3: But like movie smoke. That's I He was multiples.
Speaker 5: He was easily three times my size, and I'm I'm
not looking to pick a fight. I just want to
watch this movie. And I mean he could have he
could have just carried me out, put me in his
pocket if he wanted, yes.
Speaker 6: Like a cigarette, paring cigarette, my tailored cigarette.
Speaker 2: Shit's good. Uh yeah, I know, nothing like talking about
the gimmick a couple of weeks ago, my theater experience,
but like getting in a fight, but that was not anger.
It was like that just happened that people I just
shut down. I talked about like nocturnal animals. So it's
like it's it's it's just like a class. You can
go back. Lots of people listen to that review and
it's just the movie in general, and the movie in general,
like you know, I've talked about many times, probably haven't
talked about a long time, luckily, but Jarallell's joker, it's
just it's just fucking nightmare feel for me, that whole
build up, the suicide squad and that again, that first
look of the damage on the forehead and just being like, well,
he's an Oscar winner, so I hope, I hope, like
I don't like the look, but the performance likely will
be good. And then the performance was shit too, and
I'm you know, it's just like that whole air and
that was a very fun review. We did the twenty fifteen,
it was US four with Kyle for Suicide Squad, and
it was a really good time. That was like a
three hour review, but we was in don'space. We just
had a laugh fast. It was a good time. But
I remember in the moment watching the movie just feeling
awful about it, and now not as bad because you know,
we've got a couple of Jokers since then. I think
way more rowled up in the younger years we started
the podcast. Now, I only I had carries like, okay,
shit version of Joker, there'll be another one. But I
think the other thing back then was because that was
pitched just like, well, this is this is the MCU
for DZ, like this is gonna be the Joker going forward.
So I think that was always the problem of like
if it was just hey, this is a one off
of the Joker, Oh cool, do whatever, But when it
was oh, this is the next Joker, like the Tom
Hidleson Joker you're gonna have for the next ten fifteen years,
I was like, yikes, you know. But even though I
knew they made a mistake. When Jared Lettle came back
for the Snyder cut, they took off those all those
fucking tattoos off from the grill like they even the
director said, yeah, we went too far, like everyone like,
I get what they're trying to go for now in retrospect,
just be a little bit different. But I think it
was a big misstep. And as a fan of like Batman, Joker,
my two fair characters, that was a rough, rough, rough
role watch going through that. So check out that review
you haven't. It's a I'm fired up in that review,
So there you go. Now I'm too tired to get
fired up. So ladies, jomen that is it. Later on
in the week, like I said, Weekly Geek, Dylan and Taylor,
lots of good stuff other casts, and we probably hear
for his next It'll not be worn
Speaker 3: For awhile