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When your old career gives you lemons, throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka. He's calling a podcast from the

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mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by

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Victor Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well,

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hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on. Thank

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you for telling a friend. That's how we get more

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Rory McElroy on the podcast, by you telling a friend

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and a friend telling a friend, and we got all

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these listeners and now I have a whole lot of fun. Daniel.

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Speaker 2: Let's see how he does today.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how he does this.

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Speaker 3: He holds off Bryson. Yeah, he's making it. Bryce was

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making a push yesterday, but Rory was still doing well too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rory hill on and he got back below ten. Yeah,

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it's twelve under, twelve under. There was something that I've

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been rolling around in my skull for a while and

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I it's something we've touched on on the podcast. But

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it's one of these things. It'll it'll go a little

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deep and maybe it's a little weird. But I feel

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like these are things I can discuss with you. I

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could discuss with you and Kevin and some other people.

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I gotta keep it lighter. I don't know what to.

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Speaker 3: Do something Okay, well you could tell me anything better. No,

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I understand, and the listeners are great, but I.

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Speaker 1: Think that you know, we hear about fear, and you know,

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fear holds us back, and fear does that. And I

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started to think about this and I go, yeah, but

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is fear? Is it fear or well, it's fear. I

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will admit that it's fear, But is it like there

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are hidden faces of fear disguised as something else? Well, reluctance, sure,

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but there's all kinds of things and I and I'm

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starting to see, like, even with myself, you without saying

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too much, you gotta push and get and get things done.

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But I go, I wouldn't say I was afraid. But

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then I started to think about it, and I go,

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I don't know. Sometimes it sounds like fears disguised as politeness,

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fears disguised as uh, I don't know, Like you know,

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you're the first generation to go to college, right, Were

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you the first generation to go to college? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, right technically my sister who was a generation

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above me, but yeah we are us kids were the

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first one to college.

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Speaker 1: So the first ones to go to college.

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Speaker 2: Three five of us actually finished.

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Speaker 1: And you look at that and you think wow, Like I,

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I mean, my parents had to worked really hard for

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me to get here. I had to work really hard

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to get here. I don't really belong here. Entrepreneurship is

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not for me. It's for trust fund kids. That's the

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kind of fear I'm talking about, where it's disguised as

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something else it but it's really fear. It's like, oh shit,

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I don't know how to do that. I don't know

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how to do that. And you know what was making

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me think this? And I think you did the same thing.

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I was thinking about. It's spring break for most schools

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in the Northeast, Like I'm we gonna say elementary, but

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schools K through twelve, yes, and not necessarily college. And

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I think that I was thinking back to spring break

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in college. Did you ever go away? You did?

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Speaker 3: Two thousand and two you did, yes, okay, I had

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a blast, okay, loved it all right.

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Speaker 1: I never did oh no, no. I went to Killington

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one year and skied.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've been there too, but not for spring break.

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Speaker 1: When we went for spring break and we did some

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spring skiing and stuff and it was fun, but it

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where I don't know, I like, you were afraid to go,

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or that wasn't for me, or I didn't really know,

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and I go, what was that? What is that? What

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is that in us? That does that? Like I radio

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could be a job that could be very transient. Right

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when I was in radio, I had an opportunity to

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go to LA. I think more than anything, fear prevented

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me from from going to LA. I remember going for

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a run when I was in LA and thinking, holy shit, man,

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this is everything you ever wanted. And then I was like,

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I don't know, yeah, you know what I mean. And

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they came with the salary and you could have pushed

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back and you didn't, and you're like, there was fear.

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It's all It's all fear, and so it holds you

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there and then you look back and you go, well,

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who puts this fear in you or these traditions and

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beliefs in you. Your parents do and they don't mean

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to do it in a bad way. My parents were

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not people who were risk takers. I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think my definitely weren't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my dad took a risk and built a house.

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Speaker 3: Well, eventually he burned it to the ground, right, choking, choking, choking.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, what a fucking n But uh.

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Speaker 2: But Paul Bill giveth Paul Bill taketh away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just go, I'm just thinking, like they

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never they My dad was not did not travel for work.

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Speaker 2: My father being a steel worker. Same thing. Yeah, we

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don't cross the Green Bridge. Yeah, we don't go to

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the reservation for gas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you stay right here. Okay. Yeah. It's like one

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of these things like and I go, what and and

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that wasn't even like I think fear. I think my dad,

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Uh is this everybody's gonna say this, My dad's the

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song's dad. My day could beat up your dad we

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Speaker 3: My dad legitimately could though, but when I was just.

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and I mean this truthfully, like my dad is one

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of the most intelligent people I've ever encountered, and extremely funny,

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like he could have done so many things. And I

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didn't know this, but my brother was very close with

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his aunt. It would be as he had his mom

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had two sisters. His mom married under bizarre circumstances and

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stayed married, and the other two did not. And there's

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almost a reason, there's a pretty serious reason as to why.

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would say. But I loved going and to see him

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Speaker 2: They had great aunts did the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the three of them like all lived together, yeah,

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till the day they died.

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Speaker 1: And then my brother would go got very close with

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one of them and almost like a grandmother to him, right,

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would talk to her and all this, And he told

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me that there were times just like I don't understand

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your father. He could have done so much more. And

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I go, that's the fear, the fear of what the

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what the fuck is that, and how do you get

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past it? Because it's culture, it's upbringing, it's your internal boundaries,

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all those things.

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Speaker 2: Yes, are fearful, Yeah, I think that. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Like when we were hunter gatherers, you had to have

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that anxiety inside you for attackers, right in case somebody

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Speaker 1: Come to hurt your faily.

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Speaker 3: So now that we live in cubicles and sit and

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have a back porch, and even the worst of Americans

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have it pretty good, well better than ninety five percent

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of the world right screen TV. Even homeless people in

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La Man have ted said they have great weather, all right,

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they're getting free food and stuff.

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Speaker 1: We live, as.

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Speaker 3: Americans at the top of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. So

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we have all this anxiety and know where to put it.

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So what do we do We invest and I'm not

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using that word like a in a complimentary way. We

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invest that anxiety into our everyday life or manifest that's

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the best way we way to use it. You know what,

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I don't know if I should take this job. I

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don't know if I should apply for this right. You

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know what, Dan, you can't do this, you don't want

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to do I'll tell you what the greatest risk of

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all is not taking a risk.

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Speaker 1: I just read about a girl locally to where we

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live who is the youngest to ever be accepted to

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ub law. Most people do four years of college. This

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young lady, and I just read through the article. I

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should try to get her on the podcast at some point.

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It would be interesting to talk to her. Maybe we'll

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try to do that this week. I do have to

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travel this week, but we'll still be doing some episodes.

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But she she figured out that hey, there was a

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like a learning program, so through FLCC she could take

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college courses while she was in high school. So as

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a freshman she started taking college courses in addition to

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her workload. And obviously a bright kid, so she goes through.

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have these hang ups, right, you don't have them. So

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she's kind of going through and going, I don't know

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what I'm gonna do. They say she graduated at a

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young age seventeen. I graduated at seventeen, so I don't

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think that that's that young. But I turned eighteen in August,

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so I was a later birthday. But she is a

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spring birthday, so she graduated like a year ahead, and

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three plus three program at I guess UB and they go, well,

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in order to do that, you got to take the LSATs.

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So she's like, okay. So she's like, I didn't know

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she had tried all these different things against biology. She

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was looking at political science. She was thinking maybe she

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could do Spanish and education and become like a courtroom

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interpreter for somebody and that sort of thing. And then

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there was no fear, like if I make it great,

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if I don't, no big deal, right, and all the

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things that we do. Failing to me is one of

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Speaker 2: Great teacher.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a great teacher motivator because when we think

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of sports like you go, okay, I want to win that.

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I want to win the job on the team, I

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want to be the starting receiver, quarterback, running back, line, whatever.

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and even if you don't get it, you're that much

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closer to it and you're that much better off right

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and I'm listening. I watched this girl. I go, boy,

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that that is being that's the naivete of youth, which

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is a wonderful thing because you don't worry about what

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if I embarrass myself. One of my friends laugh at me,

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what I'm too old for this? What are they going

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to take me? Seriously? Are they gonna It's all that

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shit that we put in our way, putting our way,

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putting our way. And I have even found with this

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podcast instead of and I saw you looking at like

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the podcast content calendar, I haven't really dove into these

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things that I need to do to really expand this

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stuff and do all that like because I always go, wow,

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I got to do it this way. What's that my

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own assistant? Yeah, what do you mean?

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Speaker 2: The one for each of us? I'm just I'll take

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a big picture. Yes, could you hold my call?

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it's a weird thing. And I go, wow, I got

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to do the videos and I got to do this,

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and I cant do that, and sure, you'll see some

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growth there, but that's not the big picture growth that

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you want. That's like that too, That's like, yeah, it's

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simple stuff, and you want the big picture growth is

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better guests and wider arranging topics and better written out

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stuff and planned and long term and art stories and

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all these things that I know that I can realize

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someone And what I think triggered this for me is

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somebody who I admired in radio wrote me and said

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something very very nice about the podcast, and I, like,

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really really nice, said, h it is the only place

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that I consistently find a genuine balance between intelligence and fun.

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That's a fucking amazing complent Like that? Is that not?

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Speaker 2: That's awesome?

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Speaker 1: Is that not? One of the greatest compliments ever.

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Speaker 3: Had a comment?

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Speaker 1: For you?

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Speaker 2: Is a complement for me and Kevin too.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely for everybody, Mark Hillman, Yes, but what I'm saying,

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Matt Reese, all of them, Laura, But it was it

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was one of the well.

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Speaker 3: I was on TV last week.

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Speaker 1: And we played it. But that's the thing and you go, Okay,

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so you know what to do, why aren't you doing it?

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you're not getting younger. There's a shot clock above all

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of us. We like to think it's not there. You

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came in going, I'm forty five years old. I was

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watching the associate pastor's only a little bit older to

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be up there. I don't think of myself as that old. Yeah,

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nobody does.

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Speaker 2: I think of myself as twenty two.

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Speaker 1: But we think we have all this time? Don't and

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we kind of do? We do? We do, but we don't. Oh,

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we don't, and that and I and that sounds oxymoronic,

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but it's sort of true. And I go, what is that?

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That fear thing? You know, the myth of readiness? Right?

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I gotta be ready through growth, through just doing it.

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You know you're never going to be ready. You're never

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going to be ready for.

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Speaker 3: Anything, no ever a good time, right right?

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Speaker 1: And we go, well, I have responsibilities fear fear just

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I'm telling you you wisdom.

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Speaker 3: You and I had a conversation once about my first

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wife before I married her, and you were like, dude, dude, dude.

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Speaker 1: What did I say? Did I say something?

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Speaker 3: They're only two different times in my life. When you

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told me to run away from a woman, I did.

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I followed your advice the first time. Yeah, I followed

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your advice the first time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: She was the one who dated Eddie Murphy. And you

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met her, You're like, Danny, run, don't walk.

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Speaker 1: Remember run you don't remember her? Run older woman?

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Speaker 3: Yes, about ten years older. Yeah, beautiful, georgeous, Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I got a lot great, but she was a

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little possessing.

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Speaker 1: Remembering a little possessive. Yeah, I regularly remember that.

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Speaker 3: And then my ex wife, Danny, listen, I know, I

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know you're broke. That's tough. You're living by the balls here.

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You know what you'll figure if you cancel the wedding.

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It's okay, no one's going to get mad, but get out,

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get out. You'll find a place to live. You'll find

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a place. And I'm like, no, fear, No, I could

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make it work, which really wasn't I could make it work.

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It was well, the wedding's already paid for, and I

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got a place to live and broke. Okay, I'll just

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do it and see what happens. Right, Like fear, but logic,

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fear logic so bad they knocked it down and put

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down put up a whole foods there. That's how bad

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that marriage was even Marios, just like, yeah, we're sing

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we're done.

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Speaker 1: But practicality, right, I have a place to live, I've

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already paid for the wedding. Yeah, practicality.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fearorsemas with the source for the engagement, but it's practicality.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Believing it's smarter to play it safe. Yes, and

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and then even if you're unfulfilled, better to play it safe. Right.

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And I'm going to myself stop playing it safe. Stop

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playing it safe, because it's not working.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever heard Jim Carrey talk about his father.

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I'm sure you've seen the viral for his father if

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you haven't heard the story Jim Carrey comic right. His

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father had all the aspirations Jim had, and he wanted

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to go into stand up but he wanted to act.

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He want to do all these things, but he decided

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to become like a traveling salesman or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I forgot what he did to play it safe.

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Speaker 3: And then he got fired and he couldn't find a

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job and his family had to sell the house, live

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in their car, doing whatever they had to do to survive.

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And he told his father, and his father thought he

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was doing the right thing by playing it safe. Yeah,

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and he goes, well, if you played it safe and

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lost everything to guess what, I'm just gonna take my

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chances and do what you want to do anyway, right,

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And now his father's death or when his father died,

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he wrote his father a check for twenty five million

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dollars and put it in his pocket, you know, before

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he died, he put in his coat pocket. He goes, Dad,

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I'm gonna cast this check for us. And Jim Carrey

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became a megastar after ace Vanturu. I mean, he was

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a star in his own right for a living collar,

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but then as Vanta brought him to another level. And

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after that he's like, look, I did it. I lived

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out our dream.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: And your father like, man, some of the stuff he says,

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I don't even think he knows how funny he is.

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Your father, Dad, just the stuff that you've said that

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he said, I'm like, oh my gosh, like I want

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when your mother and father were both here, I think

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it was a year ago.

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Speaker 1: I said you were such a smart family.

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Speaker 3: What do you think is the secret? And your mother's like,

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I don't know, I don't know because you're all like

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incredibly brilliant. My family, like you said, like Italians are

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dumb Jews basically. Ah, my mother's like, yeah, I don't

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have to take credit for that one.

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Speaker 2: I'm not telling you.

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Speaker 1: That's terrible. That is a terrible thing. What I meant

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was like, but here's why I said that was it

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was because my mother did a private speech pathology with

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a woman with a young girl named Brett. My mom

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was was getting her private license, and in order to

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do that, she almost had to do like student teaching stuff,

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so someone had to she would conduct these things. And

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this girl had a stutter, and my mom was working

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on overcoming stuttering. And a lot of it is just breathing.

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It's the way you breathe, right, Anxiety builds up. What

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happens we hold her breath, whatever happened to right, And

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so she used to have her breathe into like this

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tube and they would record it so she could hear

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the breath. But then my mother left the date recorder out,

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and my buddy Chris, who called me yesterday flame Bread

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calls me yesterday and we're just shooting the ship. I

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should I can't wait to bring this up to him

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because we're gonna try to get together and he went

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to the University of Colorado at Boulder and he just

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got a job. He's moving back to Denver, and he's like,

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you got to come out this fall and we'll go

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see a Colorado game. Oh wow, okay, yeah yeah, so

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it's yeah. So I'm like, you know what, let's get

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it on the calendar, because if it's not on the calendar,

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won't do it, it won't happen. And we'll talk and

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talk and talk. But if you have that goal, you

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got that thing I want to do this, you'll make

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it happen. I really believe that. So but this woman, uh,

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young girl, her name was Brett. We we dubbed her

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breath after that, okay, and.

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Speaker 3: Stories of your life like themselves. I sure sat.

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Speaker 1: And laughed and laughed at her. Asses off and you

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see her. And Brett was not the most I got.

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Speaker 2: It's probably she had to face a mother canlove, I guess.

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Speaker 1: And she had an older brother who was kind No

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I forget his name, but I used to call him

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Shamou because he was no. No, he was a big guy.

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He was a big guy, and he was very arrogant

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kind of And I remember being on the football team

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bench and he said, I'm the biggest, fastest and strongest

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person on this team. And I burst out fucking laughing

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and fell off the bench. I just couldn't. I was

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roaring out. I go, you're an idiot. So then I

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used to always call him shamou because he was slow

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and he couldn't move that fast, and I'd be like, oh, yeah,

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the fastest guy. And sometimes I'd run backwards, go hey,

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fast guy. Yeah. It was It was awful. And I

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used to sing, but he was older than me. I

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was in tenth grade. He was a senior, so he's

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two years ahead of me. And I used to sing shamoo, shamoo, no,

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no no, and then and then anytime I saw him,

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And one time he grabbed my fingers and tried to

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break my fingers and I just stood there laughing. I

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don't know why, Like I just, I mean, he hurt me,

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You hurt me a little bit, but I.

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Speaker 2: Just you're you're gonna sell it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I was like, you know, because I

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could have stepped on his foot kicked him in the balls.

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I was amused by the whole thing, the fact that

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he grabbed my fingers and he didn't punch me was

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very entertaining to me. I go, who does this? Who

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just grabs your finger? Right? Why wouldn't you just come

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out and just go keep it up? I'm gonna you know,

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I get that that it's a form of bullying. It's

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making you uncomfortable. But what I always that one thing

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when he said I'm the biggest, fastest, strongest guy on

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this team. I thought, someone has made you believe that,

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and that is fucking awesome. I thought that. Then. I

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remember thinking that I just go, that's the Rick James theories.

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Speaker 2: I'm the baddest effort of all time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, but I mean I remember this. He was

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convinced of it. His name was.

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Speaker 2: Rich Okay, it all comes full circle.

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Speaker 1: And I just and I was like, even then, I thought, wow,

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that's amazing because I never ever would have said that

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out loud. I don't think I ever thought it. I

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never thought that even close. I have low self esteem always.

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But I was like, that's amazing, and that's why I go.

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And their mother was the one. So my mom couldn't

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charge because she was working on her license, and all

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of a sudden, this one was like, well, I have

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to pay you for something. So she bought us a

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Toshiba TV. Wow, No, we like a thirty two wins

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and that's what it was, Sony, that was the big deal.

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That was the big deal. So we get that's a

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disc changer. And then she bought us a Nintendo the

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next year.

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Speaker 2: That's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: And these were like really nice gifts, and I was like, man,

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Jewish people have high expectations for their loved ones and

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that's amazing and pushing them further and making them believe

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themselves and those are great things to be. And then

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I saw a tell people a lot of Asian cultures too.

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And then I had an Italian boddy er. His last

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name was Stumbo, Stumbnbo, Stumbo Stumbnbo, Ernie Stumbo, Oh, Ernie,

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Ernie Stumbo lives up the street. And I watched Ernie's

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family and his sister was really pretty, but dad was

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like overprotective.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like books.

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Speaker 1: He was a plumber, but all very family orient And

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the thing was Ernie wasn't going to become a dentist

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like Rich was just wasn't gonna happen. You'd never get

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a city job. So why that's why I way, Wow,

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those two cultures are very alike. One's just dumber.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: See, my father believed he was a steel worker, and

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he did not want me or my brothers or my

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sister even to go into the steel plant. Yes even

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to nothing. No, you're not going there because I like.

470
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Over the summer, I took Beth on a tour of

471
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like where I grew up, and we drove by the

472
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old steel plant. She goes, oh, my gosh, that place

473
00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:53,319
looks like Hell. I go, yeah, that's my father thought

474
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of it. It was hell, and he didn't want us to

475
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,160
work there. But he thought he came from the generation

476
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,839
where if you go to college, you gotta be special. Yes,

477
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,279
you're automatically, like the FBI is gonna come knocking on

478
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,960
Danny's door offered him a job, and he didn't know

479
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,440
any better. He thought, well, if I go, you go

480
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,599
to college, you'll be fine. You get good grades, you'll

481
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,000
be fine. And when I got to college, like I

482
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,680
had a roommate goes, yeah, damn, grades don't matter. Grades

483
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,039
don't matter. They really, unless you're going, like to grad school.

484
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,720
Grades grades really don't matter. I'm like, yeah they do.

485
00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:20,680
No they don't, Yeah they do, No, they don't my

486
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,400
grade actually never mattered in broadcasting. It really didn't make

487
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a difference. But the point was, like he was sold

488
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on the idea that all you had to do was

489
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,480
get good grades to go to college and you'll be fine.

490
00:24:30,039 --> 00:24:31,559
Speaker 2: I add to an extent he was right.

491
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,839
Speaker 3: But reality is, you got to have that personal ambition

492
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,400
to go out and become the best at what you

493
00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:39,880
do if you want to succeed, and with people become

494
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,759
doctors and lawyers like Greg Connors. Right, you could tell

495
00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:44,680
man he had that fire at his belly at a

496
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,079
young age, from athletics to school to ever, he was

497
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going to make it.

498
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Speaker 1: You know.

499
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Speaker 3: For me, I was like, yeah, I went to college.

500
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Speaker 1: I'm good. I was more of a sprinter, look like

501
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,079
in school, meaning academically okay, Like I would go, ah, y,

502
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,640
I got this, I take my foot off the gas. Yeah,

503
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,279
me too, And then all of a sudden around March,

504
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:03,880
I'm like, oh.

505
00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, straight eighty eighths, my father, why can't you get

506
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,519
in the nineties, Like, what difference does it make?

507
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,839
Speaker 1: Yeah? So it was, uh, I hear you. I think

508
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,200
also being a little bit older at college for a guy,

509
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,119
probably more than a woman, more mature at a younger age.

510
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,440
I think can help because there's a lot of opportunity

511
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,799
at college. People will meet you halfway. If you're looking

512
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:30,279
to do something, looking to learn something, travel overseas.

513
00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: They want to make sure you did the work.

514
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:32,799
Speaker 3: Like when I when I as a recruiter, when I

515
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,799
hire people say like nine times out of ten they

516
00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:35,559
want a college degree.

517
00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 2: They don't even care as long as it's not from like.

518
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,559
Speaker 3: And I'm not joking. If it's from like the University

519
00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:41,680
of Phoenix, they're not going to take you as seriously,

520
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,640
I'm not joking. Okay, They rather you just go into

521
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,480
the military than do that because they know that you

522
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:49,039
at least went to school, You paid the money, you

523
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,400
did the work, you came out with the degree, however

524
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,119
long it took.

525
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 2: You invested the time.

526
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,079
Speaker 3: And it's not just going to class, it's living the

527
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,599
college experience and growing up with other people of other cultures. Yeah,

528
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,359
because that's what the workplace is. It's a melting pot

529
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,599
of other people and other cultures together.

530
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,079
Speaker 2: You got to be able to work in the world.

531
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,839
Speaker 1: Right. But I do think a lot of times, even

532
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,200
with the college thing, right, there's fear. Yes, right, Well,

533
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:12,680
I got my.

534
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: College degree now what, I'm never leaving in Rochester, no.

535
00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: Right, and that's that's a fearful thing.

536
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 3: I had an opportunity to work at a station west

537
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,559
of Batavia and it was part time, but I lived

538
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:26,599
with my sister in Rochester and I had the opportunity

539
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:28,400
to take it if I wanted it.

540
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 2: And my sister's like.

541
00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:30,599
Speaker 1: What am I gonna do?

542
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: I can't live without you. We share the apartment, but

543
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,279
but you can't try it back. I'm like, okay, I

544
00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:37,319
just won't take it.

545
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,599
Speaker 1: Fear, Yeah, her fear, her fear.

546
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,519
Speaker 3: I can't leave my sister hanging, and I can't afford

547
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:44,680
the gas, and it's just like, you know what I'll

548
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,240
pass And to this day.

549
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: I wonder, huh, yeah, it's it's what might have been.

550
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:52,359
It's just an interesting thing I've been thinking about. I

551
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,720
didn't mean to get off on a little bit of

552
00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:54,480
a no fear.

553
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 3: But you're right though, because everybody listening to this segment.

554
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: Right, wow, we all go there's nothing like I don't

555
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,279
have any fear. My life is good, that's great. But

556
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,079
if you really dig down some of the things you

557
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,799
really want to do, you're not doing because I have responsibility.

558
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:12,680
What will happen with the bills. How am I gonna

559
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,160
rock the boat this way? Who am I gonna upset

560
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,079
with this? What are people gonna think? All these things

561
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,160
that come? And then you look at a seventeen year

562
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,079
old girl who's the youngest she'll be eighteen in May.

563
00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:26,680
Is gonna be the youngest ever accepted at ub Why

564
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:28,759
because she had no fear? Right, she just did it?

565
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:30,039
How about kids? He just did it.

566
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:31,599
Speaker 3: I know a kid who's living in New York City

567
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,799
right now who waits tables at an olive garden and

568
00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:36,200
his name is Jackson Morana.

569
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: No freaking fear, No, just went and did it.

570
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,279
Speaker 3: I was just gonna live in New York now. When

571
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:43,240
I was a kid, my dentist's daughter worked for Nielsen.

572
00:27:43,519 --> 00:27:45,079
Speaker 1: Uh huh. And my father sitting in the.

573
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 3: Chair talking to doctor von You know my son is

574
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,559
in He roused in the radio. You remember, doctor Bona's like, well,

575
00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:53,720
my daughter does ratings for Nielsen.

576
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: Baby.

577
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: They could talk.

578
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:56,559
Speaker 3: We talked, and so she put me in touch with

579
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:59,160
the guy over at Nielsen, and he kind of talked

580
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,680
me out of moving to New York and working for

581
00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:04,599
Nielsen in a way, not intentionally, but like Okay, here's

582
00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:05,440
all the warning signs.

583
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: All right, if you're not ready to like get on

584
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,839
the subway and do this and do this and do this.

585
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,039
Speaker 3: New York's a big city, I mean blah blah blah,

586
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,319
then you probably wouldn't.

587
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: Like think like how much you would have changed you?

588
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,160
Oh yeah, you took that risk. Yeah, like how amazing

589
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:17,680
that would have been?

590
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I know.

591
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: I also And I'm not saying let's go back and

592
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,240
regret things. I'm talking about now. Where are you now?

593
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:27,880
What's holding you back from being where you want to.

594
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:29,599
Speaker 2: Be from this point forward? Live fearlessly?

595
00:28:29,799 --> 00:28:33,279
Speaker 1: What is that? Because? And then don't and realize things

596
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:39,200
like responsibility are Yes, they're important, Yes it's true, but

597
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:42,720
it's also a great way to a skis fear. Yes,

598
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:44,839
have a responsibility. I can't do that, Yes you can.

599
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:46,720
You got to figure it out, but you can.

600
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, all.

601
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: Right, We'll take a moment. Augusta underway, and it's kind

602
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,000
of cool to see Rory at the lead right now

603
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:59,000
twelve under as they start to play down there.

604
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: The final round of Augusta.

605
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: But I think Happy Gilmore Too is coming out and

606
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I'm here and it's gonna be great. Uh, there's a

607
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little there's been a few happy Gilmore moments at this

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It's cobblestone on Main. Are the Masters a bunch of phonies?

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Speaker 2: Pretentious?

644
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Speaker 3: Oh well yeah, I sat, I don't know about phonies, pretentious, pretentious.

645
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Speaker 2: We're very STUDI here Augusta.

646
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Speaker 3: The patrons are remarkable, like Earld Pale, I think you

647
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went to school with. Mike schop said on Twitter yesterday,

648
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he goes, has anyone ever used the word patrons in

649
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their life to describe people? And I wrote back to

650
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my go on billified only in reference to the Masters,

651
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,559
So no, yeah, the patrons here in Augusta, in the galleys,

652
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:02,559
well it's a Then.

653
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:06,039
Speaker 1: We learned about things that like like they're not referred

654
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:09,680
to as the galley or I forgot you or whatever.

655
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,119
Their patrons their patrons, and there are certain things that

656
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:19,519
you can't say, it's not a cheeseburger, it's a Royal

657
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:25,799
Lachie at Augusta. And we went through the list on Thursday, No, Wednesday, Wednesday,

658
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,519
and but then there are things that are starting to

659
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:34,000
leak out a little bit. Okay, yeah, a little bit

660
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:42,880
go on. Well Jordan Spieith, whoy what happened to him? Okay? Okay?

661
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:50,559
He he uh won the Masters in twenty fifteen and

662
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,680
I think in the first couple of Masters that he

663
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:56,720
was in finished somewhere between third and fifth, not fourth.

664
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,319
I'm not saying fourth, but I think third, fourth, and

665
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,240
fifth in different events, and then he won it in

666
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:06,519
twenty fifteen, and he hasn't had He almost didn't make

667
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:09,319
the cut this year. I think Sergio Garcia did not

668
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,640
make the cut, which is a pretty big name in

669
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,000
golf to not make the cut at Augusta, but he did.

670
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,759
He did say some things about this, and here is

671
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:26,759
Jordan Speeth talking about Augusta. What's happening? And he shouldn't

672
00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:28,279
be talking about this. People are not happy.

673
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: Be brutally honest with you. It was primarily mudballs, and

674
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,119
it's just so frustrating.

675
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: He was asked why I think he went like seventy two,

676
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,119
seventy three, and the third day shot a sixty nine,

677
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,400
and they're going, what was it the first couple of days?

678
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:47,039
Why are you having this hard time?

679
00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: And he says this, be brutally honest with you. It

680
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,519
was primarily mudballs. And it's just so frustrating because you

681
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,039
can't talk about him here, and I was supposed to

682
00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:59,240
talk about it. I mean, mudballs can affect this tournament significantly,

683
00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:01,400
and you know they've they've done a better job. There's

684
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,599
like less than normal. But you know, I mean, I

685
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,799
still had them today on those holes too. I had

686
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:09,280
a yesterday on those holes, and yeah, I was actually

687
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,199
really surprised, like on Tuesday. How you know, I mean,

688
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,719
but I'm expecting it a lot out here. Look, it's

689
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,039
mowed into the grain, the ball's digging in on every shot.

690
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,280
Every person's having to deal with it. But the fact

691
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,800
that you're not supposed to talk about it is a

692
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,039
bit frustrating because it is a difference maker. It can

693
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:30,039
be a difference maker in scores on some holes.

694
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Speaker 1: What people who may not know a mud ball from

695
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:40,039
what I understand, pardon me, that's my potentials. Man. What

696
00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:43,559
people may not know is it's mud on the ball

697
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,000
and mud on the ball. Can that's why they have

698
00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:48,440
ball washers. Yes, I don't. Do they have ball washers

699
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,119
in Augusta. I don't know. I don't either.

700
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're called ball washers.

701
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: What would they be called, I don't know, removal removers. Well,

702
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,880
so you get mud on the ball and it can

703
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,360
change the flight in trajectory.

704
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:02,639
Speaker 5: Yeah.

705
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,519
Speaker 2: Thought by John Millikan the ball, Yes.

706
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: The scarecrow. So I mean people, you're not supposed to

707
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,920
say that. No, you're not supposed to talk to Maco says,

708
00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:18,320
right there, he says, you can't talk about this.

709
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll find you. They're they're jerks in Augusta. It

710
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:23,880
is a microcosm of communist China.

711
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,559
Speaker 1: And yet at the at the end of the same

712
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:30,880
mudballs that everybody else is dealing with. I guess you're

713
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,199
just putting in the mud a little bit more because

714
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,280
Rory's twelve unders.

715
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,119
Speaker 3: I think Jordan Speed's a little frustrated. First of all,

716
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,880
I empathized with his frustration with not being able to

717
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,559
say something, speak the truth. When we were in radio,

718
00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:44,320
you didn't have you had you talked about fear in

719
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,960
the last segment. You had no fear to say what

720
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,679
it was ever on your mind. At the golf course

721
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:50,159
that we worked that called intercom for me. Yeah you

722
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:52,800
you you you you didn't You had no fear, Now me,

723
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,239
I had to be careful. You didn't have to. But

724
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,880
when so, I empathize for Jordan Speed, however, and I

725
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,599
love Jordan Speed. But Jordan's Speed is probably frustrating because

726
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:04,360
Jordan Speed is not living up to the expectations that

727
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,159
were unrealistically set before him when he won the Masters,

728
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:11,119
because like Rory and like others, he might be the

729
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:14,360
next Tiger Woods, which is ridiculous. Yeah, right, Like I've

730
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,079
always said, like Tiger Woods was like Alexander the Great,

731
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,480
And when Alexander the Great died, they divided his territory

732
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:22,159
to four generals. We don't know who their names are anymore.

733
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,039
They all just disappeared. Well, there were like five or

734
00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:26,639
six next Tiger Woods. None of them are Tiger Woods.

735
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,039
Scotty Scheffler was the latest. I mean we so Jordan

736
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:33,039
Speed was. He's a phenom and he's a great kid too,

737
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:35,599
which is what we said about Tiger And he hasn't

738
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:38,559
become he hasn't been that guy. Yeah, he just has

739
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:41,199
and that's okay. But but like you can't say that

740
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,719
when the club leaders twelve undergoing into the final round

741
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:46,760
because he's not having mud balls.

742
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the mud balls. I don't think

743
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,000
it's Augusta.

744
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: I think you. It probably is you. I would say

745
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,280
that everything is your you gotta stand up and take

746
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,079
responsibility for your stuff. No, it's Taylor made actually, but

747
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,000
I do find it. This guy food, he gave me

748
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:02,480
these clubs. You recommend you find it funny. But I

749
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:06,800
think that that's probably really true. For I'm sure it's true.

750
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,000
I don't play enough golf to even know.

751
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,519
Speaker 3: I don't play golf. Yeah, I don't play golf. Then

752
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:13,400
I tried once.

753
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,039
Speaker 2: It was awful.

754
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: The amateur who's been playing, so we have that. That

755
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:19,679
is a faux pas at Augusta.

756
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: Oh you can't say amateur.

757
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you can't talk about the mudballs. Oh

758
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:26,679
you can't talk about all right, you're not allowed to talk.

759
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:28,599
I'm sure we say I'm a tour yes, but they

760
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:32,239
have an amateur. And the amateur is from Spain. His

761
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:38,880
name is Jose Luise Ballister. Okay, Jose Luise Ballister. I

762
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,800
don't know if he goes to Arizona. But he came

763
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,079
out with a Sun Devil's hat, and Sun Devils was

764
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:50,920
written upside down and broidered upside down.

765
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,599
Speaker 2: Because that's the thing.

766
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: Now, a lot of hats have the ha you know,

767
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,079
like you'll see a buffalo hat with Buffalo upside down

768
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:56,519
or Mafia upside down.

769
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,559
Speaker 1: And golf purists were not happy with that, of course,

770
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,039
and I and I and I don't know. I don't

771
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,000
Augusta didn't make him take off the hat. I don't know.

772
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:11,960
But this guy did something that I'm I wonder if

773
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,960
it's ever happened at Augusta. I'm sure, I know it's happened,

774
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:18,679
I'm sure in other tournaments, but has it ever happened

775
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,280
at Augusta. I would love to know the answer to that.

776
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:26,280
Here is jose Luis Balister talking about what he did,

777
00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:27,599
what happened there.

778
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,119
Speaker 6: Well, I completely forgot that we have those Russians from

779
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:35,760
the left of the tea bucks. Oh okay, yes, correct,

780
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,400
And then I'm like, I reallyted a pee. I didn't

781
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,559
really know where to go, and since Jadi had an

782
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,800
issue around the game, I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna

783
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,679
sneak here under the river. Probably the people would not

784
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,639
see me that much, and then they caught for me,

785
00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:53,840
probably one of the clubs that I really got today,

786
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,840
like real owed. So that was that was kind of funny.

787
00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 3: Are you concerned that there might be any blowback mad

788
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,000
at all? Or I mean obviously they did see you.

789
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, if they saw me the song.

790
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it was not embarrassing at all for me.

791
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,159
So if I had to do it again, I would

792
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:10,599
do it again.

793
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: Okay, he took a leak and raised creek, maybe the

794
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,840
most famous creek in all of golf. He took a

795
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,480
piss and raised creek. They caught him, and I go,

796
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,000
it's like happy Gilbart. I like this chip with that

797
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:29,840
going on. I like the other guys. I'm sure in

798
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,159
the past when we didn't have as many cameras and

799
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:34,599
the coverage wasn't his intents. We've other guys.

800
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen it. Actually over the years.

801
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: They actually they've actually found guys doing this in the woods,

802
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,400
I mean like off camera and then somebody, yeah, or

803
00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:45,199
just a golfing gen. I don't know about Augusta. Somebody

804
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:47,039
will release it to like a dead Spin or something

805
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:48,960
like that. Hey, guess what I saw someone trying to

806
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,079
curry favor with one.

807
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: Of the media outlets.

808
00:39:51,159 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: And then it'll go viral. But it's not the first

809
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,159
time that's happened.

810
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:55,159
Speaker 3: It won't be the last.

811
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: But he talked about it, Yes he did. He answered

812
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,639
the questions and I had to pee. I appreciate it.

813
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: We will say here to go, do we say number one?

814
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: It's just it's funny, right, Yeah, it's a funny. And

815
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,920
it's more funny because it's Augusta yes, and it's frowned

816
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,000
upon and this guy's like, I don't care, I had

817
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,199
to go to bath. Yeah, there's nothing nice.

818
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:16,599
Speaker 2: This sun devil got to go.

819
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: No one, No one got hurt. And then I guess

820
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,159
his girlfriend who we brought, who's very young, he's only

821
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:28,559
twenty one. She's making headlines for like her dresses and stuff.

822
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:32,440
She's just being real short or who knows. It's online

823
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:34,719
we have we get to see everything like.

824
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: Barstool and OutKick had a fun time with those.

825
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: I'll go back to nineteen eighty four. You would have

826
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,039
never known any of this. No, you wouldn't have heard

827
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:44,800
about the mudballs, and you wouldn't have heard this.

828
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 2: Well, it's weird.

829
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,519
Speaker 3: You mentioned Happy Gilmore. Right, Happy Gilmore came out actually

830
00:40:48,559 --> 00:40:51,480
at the perfect time because it was just after Happy

831
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:54,800
Gilmore that Tiger Woods became a thing. Before Tiger Woods

832
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:58,480
or like Happy Gilmore. If you watch it, all the

833
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:02,480
golfers are old man like Chierroriguez, Lee Trevino. They're all

834
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,400
like old like our grandfather type of like.

835
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,119
Speaker 2: Type of heroes.

836
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: So send me by Asteros and then Happy Gilmore comes out,

837
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:11,639
and then also Tiger Woods comes out really does what

838
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:14,360
Happy Gilbour the idea was supposed to be, which was

839
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,800
bring it to the young people. And everybody was watching

840
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,000
Tiger he was a phenomenon. Like I didn't watch golf,

841
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,039
but I would watch Tiger.

842
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: Woods, you know.

843
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 3: And so it's it's kind of interesting how now Tiger

844
00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:26,000
like Happy Gilmore is coming back out at a time

845
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,599
where Tiger Woods has kind of disappeared. Yeah, but the

846
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:32,159
Tiger Anti or so the happy antics are happening at Augusta.

847
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,639
Speaker 1: They are the happy Antics are happening in Augusta.

848
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: Predictive programming, Billy Yes, in a way, right, they're getting.

849
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:41,199
Speaker 2: Us ready for Happy Gilbore too.

850
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: The uh switching gears a little bit. We'll go to

851
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,360
a talk football since we're talking in sports. And I

852
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,360
saw this just a few seasons ago. Arch Manning, Okay,

853
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:57,039
arch Manning was the crown jewel of high school football recruit.

854
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: Eli and Peyton's nephew, Cooper's son, and Archie's grandson.

855
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: You fast forward to twenty twenty five with Quinn Yours

856
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:07,360
headed to the NFL. He is going to be quarterback

857
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,960
number one for Texas Arch.

858
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: Well, now the Quinn is going to He's going in the.

859
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:18,639
Speaker 1: Draft, and spring games have started, and ESPN's Rhys Davis

860
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:21,519
stirred the pot what they take saying Arch isn't just

861
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:25,719
a star in the making, he might become football's ultimate villain.

862
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:32,519
And I thought, ooh, then I go, how tough would

863
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:38,440
it be to be a third generation? Right? Very we

864
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,599
we've talked about the number of guys who didn't do

865
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,679
as well as their dad in a sport. Now there's

866
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,159
some that have Ken Griffy Junior did better than his.

867
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: Old man, better than his father.

868
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you. I'm not sure that Howie Long's

869
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,760
kids did better than Howie Long in the NFL.

870
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: No, they're not Hall of famers. Coli was a Hall

871
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,280
of Famer.

872
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: But then you've got this and you go, do you

873
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,599
even have a chance to have your own identity or

874
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:10,360
was it just a predestined thing? Like? This is it?

875
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:11,559
This is what I have to do.

876
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,679
Speaker 3: Here's the weird thing about Arch. I think, like like

877
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:19,440
Bronnie James, like the like bron James' people did a

878
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,880
great job of keeping Bronnie hidden. So you had no

879
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,639
idea in high school or in college what he was

880
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:27,239
going to become because he really wasn't that good, and

881
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,599
so they kind of protected him.

882
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: And now, oh, he's doing great the G League, which

883
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:30,920
nobody's watching.

884
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: They have to keep telling us about him, right, but

885
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:35,239
he's really not that good now could he be someday?

886
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:36,039
Speaker 1: Perhaps?

887
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,679
Speaker 3: Arch Manning, we were told, came with the same hype

888
00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:40,719
that Bronnie James did.

889
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: But Arch signed like in.

890
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: His junior year in high school to go to Texas.

891
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: He was going to be the man, right.

892
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: He couldn't beat out Quinn Yours and Quinn Yours is

893
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,400
considered like one of the worst quarterbacks going into this

894
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,880
year's draft. Okay, he couldn't beat out that dude at

895
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,800
a school where winning is everything.

896
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was watching some stuff. I thought he

897
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,840
brought them back and had the overtime win against Arizona State.

898
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:05,360
He did.

899
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like he's bad.

900
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: He threw for nearly a thousand yards, nine touchdowns and

901
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,000
two interceptions.

902
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: He filled in for Quinn yewrs, but he couldn't displace him.

903
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's telling.

904
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: Now He's got more time to develop though, and he's

905
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,199
not one of these transfer babies.

906
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: No.

907
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go to Colorado and the next year

908
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,239
we do Arizona State.

909
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: No, he hasn't done that.

910
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: He's staying with Steve Sarkizi and the head coach at Texas.

911
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,039
It's gonna be interesting to see what he does now.

912
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:36,079
Speaker 2: Could he become that villain? Possibly? I just don't know how.

913
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:39,199
Speaker 3: When he's not even arguably the best quarterback projected to

914
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,000
be next year's draft or the year after. He's got

915
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:43,639
a lot of growing up to do on the field.

916
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,760
He handles himself pretty well in college.

917
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean.

918
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 3: As far as like his you know, he minds his

919
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,960
piece and q's. He's not gonna be saying something like

920
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,840
that they said at Augusta.

921
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: Let's put it that way. He's not that guy. He's

922
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,400
a good kid.

923
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,599
Speaker 3: But like we don't know, Like if you took away

924
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:59,800
the name Manning, he'd just be another like quarterback to watch.

925
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:03,000
Let's see what happens, right, I don't even think he'd

926
00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:05,440
have as much not to riot. He's not the right word,

927
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,239
but intrigues Josh Allen going into Josh Allen's last year

928
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,719
of college, like he was on the radar at Wyoming

929
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,400
going into his final year, Well, I don't even know

930
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,719
if it was his senior year, but it was final

931
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,159
year at Wyoming. He was on the radar because of

932
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:20,760
his physical attributes. I don't get that from arch Manning.

933
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,639
All you get is the name arch Manning. Now, it's

934
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:25,639
gonna be interesting to see what Starkesian does with him,

935
00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:28,480
and maybe he turns him into being that guy. But

936
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:31,920
I'm telling you I don't know well, and for Reese

937
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,599
to say that, I don't know, it's not clickbait, Like

938
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:36,639
he's not a clickbait type of guy. But I'm wondering

939
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,760
what is the what is his motivation saying?

940
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,039
Speaker 1: I feel like arch Manning is a product and it

941
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:47,440
is clickbait. That's seriously, maybe it could be you know,

942
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,559
it's a product and it's clickbait. Who knows. Look, I

943
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:53,840
don't know. In college, if you just go, hey, this

944
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,480
guy's got more experience, I'm gonna let Ewings play it out.

945
00:45:56,519 --> 00:45:58,320
You'll jump in a few games. You're gonna be my

946
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,360
number two. Learn the system, learn the stuff it could be.

947
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,039
Speaker 3: I mean, the Mannings are very measured. Yes, they're very measured.

948
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:07,440
They're not gonna lay like jump, you know, jump from

949
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,880
school to school, team the team you know and in

950
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,880
a way like they're doing the same thing like that

951
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,599
what Dion did was Shadur right, Shaduor could have jumped around,

952
00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:16,639
but he played for Dad and now he's probably gonna

953
00:46:16,639 --> 00:46:18,639
be the second quarterback taken in this year's draft.

954
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I.

955
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:22,079
Speaker 3: Think for Shador that I think that's really good if

956
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:24,039
he drops, because he's gonna get a good team in

957
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:26,519
the veteran quarterback in front of him. He could develop.

958
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,400
He could process. He's just not really mobile, but he

959
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,760
could process. Like he's like, I don't want to compare

960
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,239
to Tom Brady, but Tom Brady was not the most

961
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,920
athletic quarterback, but he could process fast and get rid

962
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,639
of the ball quick.

963
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:37,159
Speaker 1: Yeah.

964
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 3: And if if Shador could avoid sacks and process quickly

965
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,480
and have a West Coast offense, he could be fantastic

966
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,960
with Arch. It's gonna be interesting. There was a story

967
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,679
about twenty five years ago, because these guys are my age,

968
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,639
there was a quarterback at Texas named Major Apple White.

969
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: Do you remember him.

970
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:54,079
Speaker 3: He end up being a quarterbacks coach at Syracuse at

971
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:56,960
one point. Major Apple Why he had the name going

972
00:46:57,039 --> 00:46:59,079
to college. Well, there's this other kid that was about

973
00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:01,920
his age, going to and he showed up at Austin

974
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,079
in a limousine. He was going to be the next

975
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:05,639
quarterback of the University of Texas.

976
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: Oh is that his day was?

977
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,159
Speaker 2: Chris Simms.

978
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

979
00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: Now, iverybody loves Chris Sims in Western New York because

980
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,079
he was the one guy who said Josh Allen's going

981
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:13,920
to be the man. And Chris Simms actually does a

982
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,960
nice job at Pro Football Talk. He's sharp, he's not

983
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,239
he studies film, he's great, but he was a little spoiled.

984
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: He was Phil Simms kid.

985
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what happened After a few bad games of

986
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:26,599
Major Applewhite, they switched to Chris Simms. Guess what they

987
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:29,320
were right? Chris Simms got drafted to play in the NFL.

988
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,119
He didn't have a lengthy career, but he had a

989
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:34,679
journeyman's career. Major apple White never sniffed the NFL. That's

990
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,559
why I'm saying, I know it's been twenty five years,

991
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,519
but like they must have Manning Arch on this program

992
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:43,840
because he never displaced Quinn Ewers and Quinn Yours is

993
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,960
an NFL caliber quarterback. I'm not saying he's good, He's

994
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,320
going to be probably be a backup. So they must

995
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,840
be letting him bake for a long time to really

996
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,480
like showcase the skills. He may be one of these

997
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:54,880
kids who stays in college as long as possible to develop.

998
00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:59,079
Speaker 1: Currently in the Augusta, we have a tie McElroy and

999
00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:03,000
d chambeau with it ten under h Here we go, Oh,

1000
00:48:03,039 --> 00:48:03,920
here we go.

1001
00:48:04,599 --> 00:48:08,079
Speaker 3: Rory meltdown before anybody else can say that, you and

1002
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:09,199
I are talking about this in.

1003
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:10,639
Speaker 1: Real time, Mick meltdown.

1004
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: Would it be considered a choke if Bryson wins this,

1005
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:18,599
because here's the thing. He trailed Rory by two yesterday.

1006
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,119
It's not like he trailed him by four or by six.

1007
00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:23,920
He trailed him by two. So he's playing almost as

1008
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,880
well as Rory. So if Rory loses this, I don't

1009
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,760
want to hear people call.

1010
00:48:26,679 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: It a choke job. I don't think that's fair.

1011
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: That's good.

1012
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 3: I don't think that.

1013
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: Now if he like dropped to like fifth place, Yeah, Rory,

1014
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,079
that was that was not Bryson.

1015
00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: That was all you right?

1016
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: So but I mean before everybody.

1017
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 3: Gets their mouths open up Monday morning, let's discuss that

1018
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:43,880
before they all do. Uh.

1019
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: I just keep thinking, like, if Arch becomes a villain,

1020
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:52,039
it's gonna because of esb N. That's why it's gonna

1021
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,719
be because of them. And then he's probably gonna ruin

1022
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,360
I don't know, three people's thanksgivings on some game, and

1023
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,079
then he'll probably destroy a marriage in Oklahom if they win.

1024
00:49:01,679 --> 00:49:03,280
He could, you know what I mean, that would be

1025
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,760
about the most. He's not cocky. No, I don't think

1026
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,400
he's a cocky kid, So that would make a man's.

1027
00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: Are very polished. But you also have to understand the

1028
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,000
Mannings are very methodical overy meticulous. I mean, there were

1029
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:15,599
stories that they swept under the rug over the years

1030
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:18,440
at Tennessee, at Old Miss that we found out about later,

1031
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,280
So you gotta you know, I mean, the Mannings aren't

1032
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,599
the for this way. Peyton's not the guy you think

1033
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:26,920
he is. No, he's not a bad dude at all,

1034
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:29,840
but he's not the guy you think he is. Everybody

1035
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,760
thinks that Peyton that Tom Brady's a jerk. He's really not.

1036
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,360
He's actually, you know, a nose to the grind still

1037
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,559
that they both are. Remember he thinks that like Peyton

1038
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:40,880
Mans is aw shucks dude in real life. Now he's

1039
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,719
really not. Tom Brady actually is more like that than

1040
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,320
Peyton Manning. But since tom Brady won all the time

1041
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,039
and played for Bill Belichick.

1042
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's the consider the jerk. Wow, I'm not saying

1043
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,599
that Peyton is a jerk.

1044
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,159
Speaker 1: No, say just not.

1045
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,559
Speaker 2: Everything is as wholesome as you see it is.

1046
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:01,039
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll take a moment. Uh, where's the

1047
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:05,880
line between emotional needs and public inconvenience when it comes

1048
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:12,400
to emotional support animals? Oh, there's a fuzz. We'll get

1049
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,239
to that right after this. Have you been to Leo's

1050
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,960
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1051
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1052
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1053
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1054
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1055
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1069
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1070
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Speaker 3: To Saint John Mellencamp's pretty intense.

1071
00:51:39,039 --> 00:51:41,559
Speaker 1: Oh god, yes, yes he's a day.

1072
00:51:42,039 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: One of his backup singers likes to come out to

1073
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:47,119
Jen Christie likes to talk about the Rochester and perform

1074
00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:47,599
every year.

1075
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: Randy Flucker is good friends with her.

1076
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's never saying anything about Mellencamp.

1077
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: I've never asked, but I've heard stories from other people.

1078
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,639
Speaker 1: We had her on the podcast, what she talked about it. No,

1079
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:00,679
no ockay. I didn't even to ask if he was

1080
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:06,719
a g I wouldn't do that. No tense. Yeah, well

1081
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,039
he was an He came here to shoot a movie. Yeah,

1082
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:12,559
years ago. He rented out this strong mansion and everything.

1083
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:13,800
He was a total ass.

1084
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:14,679
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1085
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,519
Speaker 1: I think it was called Afterimage or something. There's like

1086
00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:18,639
a thriller that he was in.

1087
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 3: There was a video of him a couple of years

1088
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,039
ago in a Colts game during the national anthem. He's

1089
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:25,159
just sitting there like eating.

1090
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: Well, what are you gonna do? I bring up the

1091
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,920
emotional support animals because this is a story out of Louisiana,

1092
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,679
but this is the raw video. A couple of guys

1093
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,480
who I think they call themselves the Cutthroat Cowboys, decided

1094
00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:47,639
that it would be fun and I kind of get it.

1095
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:53,239
I get their thing to take their horses right into Walmart.

1096
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:55,039
Speaker 4: Be brutally, honestly, Yeah, right.

1097
00:52:54,920 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: Into hear the horses they were walking around right hand.

1098
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:13,119
Speaker 7: Oh no, what the hell to my group?

1099
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: You let them go? They got here again. They got it.

1100
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 4: Everybody coming in that game.

1101
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: They excuse it's about.

1102
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 7: I don't think she's I don't know if she saw it,

1103
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,000
did not, huh.

1104
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 2: I don't know new w saw it.

1105
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1106
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,199
Speaker 2: It sounds like a slow ping pong match.

1107
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, so these guys rode their horses right in there.

1108
00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:42,039
Here is the news from Louisiana. Okay, have you seen.

1109
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,039
Speaker 8: This video posted on our Facebook page? Look at this,

1110
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,559
it's already gotten about five million views.

1111
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: Yep. Those are four horses.

1112
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 8: Inside the Baker Walmart walking or maybe not galloping, but

1113
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:58,039
trotting right past the cashier. Is David Hamilton talked to

1114
00:53:58,119 --> 00:53:59,599
one of the men on horseback.

1115
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, that's my emotional support animal, right, great answer, great, Okay,

1116
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,760
going back to our first segment, Billy fearless.

1117
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,199
Speaker 1: Fearless, great answer, fearless.

1118
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,599
Speaker 5: This man, in a group of his friends called themselves

1119
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:20,800
the Cutthroat Cowboys. Videos of them riding through the Baker

1120
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,960
Walmart was watched millions of times on wbr Z social

1121
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,519
media pages. In the video, you can see the riders

1122
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:30,599
reining their horses in it, and whialmart work is confused

1123
00:54:30,599 --> 00:54:34,840
on how to handle the situation. Shortly after videos were uploaded,

1124
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,920
the Baker police issued warrants for their arrest. We caught

1125
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,320
up with Mason Webb as he and the juvenile turned

1126
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,599
themselves into the police department. We asked why they chose

1127
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:48,079
to ride ride through the store. Their answer, why not?

1128
00:54:48,679 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: We just went in there, Rode.

1129
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 9: We always read to Baker and we just wanted to

1130
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,840
do it that day.

1131
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 5: They both Webb and the juvenile facing the misdemeanor charges

1132
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,159
of disturbing the piece by violent and t emultuous manner,

1133
00:55:02,599 --> 00:55:06,559
entry on or remaining after forbidding an unlawful posting of

1134
00:55:06,639 --> 00:55:09,079
criminal activity for notoriety and publicity.

1135
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:12,199
Speaker 2: I mean it was fun. We went famous.

1136
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 1: That's all we do.

1137
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 2: You want to hurt no bad in nothing.

1138
00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, well all of those horse riders have turned themselves

1139
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,320
into police there you go.

1140
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,039
Speaker 1: All right, so they all you can't do that, Gust either, No,

1141
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,679
you cannot. So I started to think and I go

1142
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,280
he says emotional support animal. Well that brings me onto

1143
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,519
emotional He has papers for it, right. I was recently

1144
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:38,960
over the Saint Patrick's Day, I'll call it holiday. I

1145
00:55:39,079 --> 00:55:42,159
was at Damien's munt Connery's, who will be having their

1146
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:46,039
seventeenth anniversary. Oh wow next week, not this week, but

1147
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:51,519
the following week. He somebody came in with a dog

1148
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,280
and it had a vest on that said emotional support

1149
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,800
animal or some or or something support or okay, And

1150
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,920
I don't have a problem with it. I think that

1151
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,000
people having there are things that manifest I'm not gonna

1152
00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:07,559
and but the dog is like jumping up on people,

1153
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:10,679
sniffing their crotches. Go to I go this, I go, Davy,

1154
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,440
get this guy. Get this fuck up? They got right

1155
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,280
because it's not it wasn't an emotional sport animal. I

1156
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,280
do believe that there are people that need them. But

1157
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,599
we've all seen the viral videos of someone trying to

1158
00:56:20,599 --> 00:56:23,000
bring their peacock on a plane, right or the pig

1159
00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:26,440
or this or the that. I get it with a dog,

1160
00:56:26,639 --> 00:56:29,400
I understand it. With a cat, all right, They've shown

1161
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:34,840
they're domesticated. They're domesticated, and they're trained. I haven't seen

1162
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,400
the trained peacock. I'm not saying you can't. I don't

1163
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:44,360
know the train rattles. I don't get that. And as

1164
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,400
I'm watching this, I go, okay, they used to. I've

1165
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,519
seen it, even like during finals week. Uh and I

1166
00:56:51,639 --> 00:56:53,440
used to kind of roll my eyes at it. They

1167
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,519
would bring like if they had a dog, Hey, emotional,

1168
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,800
it's a support dog. You know, we were stressed out.

1169
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,679
But if you're petting the dog and the dog is

1170
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,639
cute and responsive and calm and all that, you're not

1171
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,119
thinking about anything but the dog. It's almost zen like,

1172
00:57:10,159 --> 00:57:13,760
it's almost Buddhist in a way or whatever. You've just

1173
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,199
taken your mind off of whatever the pressure is and

1174
00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:19,880
you kind of breathe and you feel better and then

1175
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,440
you can go back about your day. Look, if a

1176
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,920
dog does that for somebody, fucking fantastic, that's great. It's

1177
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,159
when your dog takes a shit in the aisle and

1178
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,519
somebody steps in it, or you've got this obnoxious thing

1179
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,559
that comes around. I'm shocked at what I see sometimes

1180
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:43,880
with people, absolutely shocked, and I go, I think businesses

1181
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,599
are unsure whether or not they can allow them. They

1182
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:49,159
don't want to end up in some kind of legal battle.

1183
00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:54,440
They don't want to be ESA a support emotional support animal. Yeah,

1184
00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:58,800
ESA friendly, they don't. They also don't want it to

1185
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,519
go viral that Hey, they kick somebody off the plane

1186
00:58:01,519 --> 00:58:03,639
that had a pig. You got a pig on the plane.

1187
00:58:03,639 --> 00:58:05,079
The other thing that should be a pig on the plane,

1188
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:08,480
and probably for mostly is your wife, whoa, billy, whoa,

1189
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:12,000
Oh no, I'm kidding, or your husband, probably your husband, Ladies,

1190
00:58:12,159 --> 00:58:15,320
you know what I'm saying, Like, I go, I don't

1191
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,239
get some of this stuff, and I feel like I'm

1192
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:19,519
like an old curmudgeon going get off my lawn with

1193
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:23,480
your stupid your stupid thing. But there's a rise in

1194
00:58:23,519 --> 00:58:27,719
some of this I don't know this stuff kind of

1195
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,039
come up with like like emotional inflation. Yeah.

1196
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:33,639
Speaker 3: So the Supreme Court we bring up two cases. I

1197
00:58:33,639 --> 00:58:35,920
don't remember the names of the cases, but the words

1198
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,000
clear in present danger. Right, you can't use the word

1199
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:41,480
fire in a crowded movie theater. You can't say, bo,

1200
00:58:41,639 --> 00:58:43,679
I'm on an airplane. Why there's a clear and present

1201
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,559
danger of The Supreme Court came up with that phrase.

1202
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: With pornography. They came up with the idea.

1203
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: That you know what it looks like when you see it, Right,

1204
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:52,800
We've got to come up with one.

1205
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:54,639
Speaker 2: Of those for these service animals.

1206
00:58:54,679 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: I know it's a small thing on the scale of

1207
00:58:57,079 --> 00:58:59,719
the grand scale of life, but it's it's almost like

1208
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,079
when the kids every Christmas start riding their bikes through

1209
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:05,280
Eastview or through Grease Ridge Mall and like, come on, man,

1210
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,000
really yeah, because then it deters people from wanting to

1211
00:59:08,039 --> 00:59:09,400
go out and enjoy themselves.

1212
00:59:09,639 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: What about my freedom?

1213
00:59:11,159 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: Right?

1214
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 3: Like in other words, what there's this big argument No. Three,

1215
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,599
when they ban smoking in New York State, and all

1216
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:17,920
the smokers were like, well, what about our freedom? And

1217
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,760
somebody brought up a great point because when I go hunting,

1218
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,360
I'm responsible for the bullets shot.

1219
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,679
Speaker 1: If it hits somebody, that's on me. The smoke.

1220
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: You don't care where the cigarette goes as long as

1221
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:27,559
you get the smoke.

1222
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:29,559
Speaker 1: What about my rights? You know?

1223
00:59:29,639 --> 00:59:31,559
Speaker 3: It's like, I mean, can we have some common sense

1224
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:32,800
here when it comes to this stuff.

1225
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,039
Speaker 1: I don't know. Look, I mean we've gone so far

1226
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:41,119
as and I think this is something that is scientifically

1227
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:49,440
proven and can be used or I don't know, used properly.

1228
00:59:49,559 --> 00:59:55,400
I would say we've medicalized things like loneliness right into paperwork.

1229
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:58,840
We've medicalized it into paperwork we can get Now, do

1230
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,960
people die of loneliness? I think there's been a real

1231
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,400
show of at least dementia can set in or different things. Right,

1232
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,280
if you're not interacting. We are social animals, yes, and

1233
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,159
if you're not social, you're gonna find yourself kind of

1234
01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:19,159
going down a weird hole. And sometimes these things can happen.

1235
01:00:19,199 --> 01:00:23,320
But I go, we turn Norman normal human struggles into

1236
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,880
handicaps into into handicapps ridiculous.

1237
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,559
Speaker 3: Like the average, like the average teenager right now, just

1238
01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:32,360
as much anxiety as a fifties mental patient. I'm serious,

1239
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,039
Like Bill Maher said that, don't quote me on that.

1240
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:36,760
Bill Marsh said this. So it's like I think I

1241
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,320
believe it.

1242
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,039
Speaker 1: Now justify special treatment. Sure, we have as much anxiety

1243
01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:42,320
because just this.

1244
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 3: Right, the stupid phone we're chasing, this thing is fucking

1245
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,199
us up. Yes, And we're more isolated, the more socially, uh,

1246
01:00:50,679 --> 01:00:52,519
we got to get back we're socially we are on

1247
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:53,800
our phones, the more isolated.

1248
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: Really was thinking about this today because I've kind of

1249
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:02,079
been in a bad headspace couple days and whatever, and

1250
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:05,400
I thought, you know what, I got to start doing things.

1251
01:01:05,519 --> 01:01:08,599
I like getting out in nature. I think it's very healthy,

1252
01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:12,000
very calming. I like working out. I like doing these things.

1253
01:01:12,039 --> 01:01:13,840
I need to make a greater effort to do that.

1254
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:16,079
And then I'm like, I need to do things like

1255
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,599
every Saturday morning, Jameis and I got to go for

1256
01:01:18,639 --> 01:01:20,559
a hike. Got to get out there and do it.

1257
01:01:20,599 --> 01:01:22,800
I think it would do is both the world of good,

1258
01:01:23,239 --> 01:01:26,840
like both of us, and I just think, you know,

1259
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:32,039
like there's a difference between compassion and coddling. But I

1260
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:38,480
think like we have justified things. Flat screen TVs. There's

1261
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,800
one here in the studio. You can get one for

1262
01:01:41,559 --> 01:01:45,519
two hundred bucks, right, two hundred dollars. You've got that,

1263
01:01:45,639 --> 01:01:48,280
You've got air conditioning. Where are you going? Life? Isn't

1264
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:48,840
that hard? Right?

1265
01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: Condling is one step away from crippling?

1266
01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: Well, I think so, and I sometimes think that, you know,

1267
01:01:57,599 --> 01:02:01,440
I don't know. It is a motional support animal needed

1268
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:06,639
for some people. Yep. Uh. Can it help in certain situations? Yep?

1269
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:09,559
Do They bring them around sometimes to schools and things

1270
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:13,960
and kids who have hire anxiety, the autism kids and stuff, yep?

1271
01:02:14,199 --> 01:02:17,480
Does it? Is it proven to work? Yep? So I

1272
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,519
don't have a problem with any of that stuff. Just

1273
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:21,480
have it having to trains.

1274
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:22,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that.

1275
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 3: Don't don't tell me the peacock, Well, don't, and.

1276
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: You're pig and you're chimpanzee. But pisses all over everywhere

1277
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,159
inflings it shit at people is not emotional support.

1278
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 3: Don't Most emotional support dogs are seeing eye dogs, Like

1279
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,800
don't they have to pass certain tests to get that

1280
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,079
licensure And isn't that.

1281
01:02:40,039 --> 01:02:45,159
Speaker 1: The greatest thing is to get to get the flunkies?

1282
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,119
There are dogs that fail, but they're so well trained,

1283
01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:53,039
they are so lovable. Like, I always thought, what happens

1284
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:55,800
to those dogs? How do I adopt one of them?

1285
01:02:56,159 --> 01:02:59,320
How do I adopt a dog that failed? Seeing high

1286
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:00,239
school or most I.

1287
01:03:00,159 --> 01:03:01,719
Speaker 3: Know a guy who like actually tried to help his

1288
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,119
dog throw the test. The dog passed that he had

1289
01:03:04,119 --> 01:03:07,159
to give him up, but he got used to he

1290
01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:10,559
loved having the dog and dogs Schroeder and the dog

1291
01:03:10,639 --> 01:03:12,840
was incredibly well behaved, and he wanted.

1292
01:03:12,719 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: To fail his test.

1293
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,679
Speaker 3: He could keep him right, No, the dog passed. He

1294
01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:17,679
did your job. So he goes, I'll get to another

1295
01:03:17,679 --> 01:03:19,840
one and that dog passed. He's like, no way, but

1296
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,679
it's conscious. I don't think subconsciously would let him allow

1297
01:03:22,719 --> 01:03:24,800
this dog to fail. But there are dogs that do fail.

1298
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are dogs that just that they fail.

1299
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 3: I'm not look like the Italians of dogs. Well, the

1300
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,599
dogs you get are the Jewish dogs, the ones that pass.

1301
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, like I would like to get a

1302
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,599
dog because they're so well trained, they're so behaved. People

1303
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,920
love to see them. They're not jumping up on you,

1304
01:03:43,079 --> 01:03:45,239
they're not barking at the door, you know what I mean.

1305
01:03:45,519 --> 01:03:50,960
They're trained and they could probably still do things for you, like,

1306
01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:54,320
you know, look, here's another one. There is a I

1307
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,639
saw a dog recently on a news special or something.

1308
01:03:58,719 --> 01:04:03,559
A woman all of a sudden, the dog's like sniffing

1309
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:06,519
around and jumping on her back and she's doing dishes

1310
01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:11,599
or something, and I'm like, Okay, that's an obnoxious dog, right,

1311
01:04:11,679 --> 01:04:12,519
that's my first thought.

1312
01:04:12,639 --> 01:04:14,719
Speaker 3: Unless he was going to get her attention because the

1313
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,280
child in the other room had an episode.

1314
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,599
Speaker 1: No, because he was trained two sense when she was

1315
01:04:19,639 --> 01:04:23,239
gonna have epileptic episode, okay, and she wasn't aware that

1316
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,920
she was about to have an epileptic seizure, and the

1317
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:29,440
dog sensed it and was trying to warn her so

1318
01:04:29,519 --> 01:04:32,360
she could go sit down, sit down. And the next thing,

1319
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,559
she turns around and you see this. It's security footage.

1320
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:39,400
You see her kind of collapse to the floor, and

1321
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,639
then the dog runs and gets something for her, and

1322
01:04:42,679 --> 01:04:45,199
I think maybe even brought her her cell phone. I

1323
01:04:45,239 --> 01:04:49,159
don't know. And I'm like, that's a needed dog. Yeah,

1324
01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:51,519
I totally get that. Take that dog wherever you want.

1325
01:04:51,639 --> 01:04:54,559
I don't care. I don't care. That's a behaved dog.

1326
01:04:54,679 --> 01:04:56,880
I thought it was jumping on No, it was warning

1327
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,719
you it's a well behaved dog.

1328
01:04:59,159 --> 01:05:01,239
Speaker 2: I was farm has that same exact situation.

1329
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,679
Speaker 1: Great good, those are wonderful. Yes, please don't think I'm

1330
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:07,480
shitting on the inmost nobody is. I'm talking about the

1331
01:05:07,519 --> 01:05:11,440
ones that abuse the system. And then really you put

1332
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,320
people in a position and companies in a position that

1333
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,159
they don't want to be in because they don't want

1334
01:05:16,159 --> 01:05:18,360
to be e s A you know, non friendly, and

1335
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,760
they don't want to go viral with your stupid fucking

1336
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,519
camera that you're hiding in your bag to go see

1337
01:05:23,679 --> 01:05:25,000
they didn't want my peacock.

1338
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take my horse to the Walmart downtown till

1339
01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:31,320
the clearance section.

1340
01:05:32,119 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: These guys were, I mean, they knew what they were.

1341
01:05:35,079 --> 01:05:38,800
They knew the cowboys made me laugh to see it,

1342
01:05:39,159 --> 01:05:41,159
like I would laugh. But I'll tell you this. You

1343
01:05:41,159 --> 01:05:43,000
know what would piss me off if one of those

1344
01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:46,920
dogs took a big ship. I mean, excuse me, horses

1345
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,639
took one of a big ship. Because the horses ship,

1346
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,920
they just ship all of a sudden. It's just like

1347
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,880
they lift that tail and go. If you watch the police,

1348
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,440
the mounted police, those horses and they have to clean

1349
01:05:58,519 --> 01:06:00,800
up after it. Oh yeah, they were out.

1350
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 3: The byproduct is that if you work at home and gardens,

1351
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:04,719
you could bag that up instead.

1352
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: It's fertilized.

1353
01:06:05,519 --> 01:06:08,199
Speaker 1: No, that's fine, but you don't like drive your dog

1354
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,079
through home depot or your horse ride your horse through. Yeah,

1355
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:12,039
drive your dog.

1356
01:06:12,119 --> 01:06:14,519
Speaker 3: I can see something, you know, you know what they'll say, Well,

1357
01:06:14,519 --> 01:06:16,840
there's birds you drive through a home depot or low

1358
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:17,840
birds flying.

1359
01:06:17,639 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: Around of course all the time. Yeah, because it's safe.

1360
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 2: Support bird.

1361
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:24,719
Speaker 1: It's funny. Support bird. Well that's another one, like if

1362
01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:27,679
you could train the bird. I guess you know.

1363
01:06:28,119 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: No, we're getting silly. Yeah, I mean you get dumb

1364
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:30,639
with this.

1365
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can't. It just all takes is one stupid

1366
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,719
I don't want to like author authority figure to allow this,

1367
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,199
and they keep moving the goalposts over it until we

1368
01:06:41,199 --> 01:06:44,360
get to a society where we just lose all rules

1369
01:06:44,519 --> 01:06:45,719
or everything's a judgment and the.

1370
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: And the other thing is it is too. I would

1371
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,360
think that for most of us, and I and and

1372
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,960
I think a lot of a lot of us as humans,

1373
01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:00,000
we'll argue for our own limitations, sometimes without really realizing

1374
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,639
even with the fear and stuff, Wow, I got responsibility.

1375
01:07:02,679 --> 01:07:05,199
We're arguing for our limitations. Why we can't do something.

1376
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,320
And I do wonder like if the goal is therapy,

1377
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,039
can we get wean you off the dog so you

1378
01:07:13,159 --> 01:07:16,360
feel well enough. Now if you never can, okay, take

1379
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,920
the dog. But if that's you know that, that's my Yeah.

1380
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,239
Speaker 3: Different docs have different philosophies. I think when it comes

1381
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,840
to like public about well, you know, public safety, you

1382
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,599
got to get vaccine and all this other stuff. Okay,

1383
01:07:27,679 --> 01:07:30,119
so when it comes we're concerned about the public, then

1384
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:34,079
a dog now becomes a public thing. Yeah, okay, like

1385
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,239
like you can't just bring a dog into a restaurant.

1386
01:07:36,239 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: There's health that, there's health codes.

1387
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,559
Speaker 3: Right, so now if you're going to have this dog,

1388
01:07:39,719 --> 01:07:41,159
you should have gone through the checklist. Okay, have you

1389
01:07:41,199 --> 01:07:44,119
gone through medication? Have you seen a psychologist regularly? Have

1390
01:07:44,159 --> 01:07:46,760
you got like that should be like the last box.

1391
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how they do that. I don't know either.

1392
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 3: You can't just jump from zero to support animal.

1393
01:07:52,119 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, we'll take a because I know.

1394
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 2: People have actually taken advantage of that too.

1395
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,719
Speaker 3: You got papers for the dog, not because they wanted

1396
01:07:59,719 --> 01:08:01,960
to take so they can get himTo hotels and stuff

1397
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:02,960
and travel with the dog.

1398
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: So I mean the dog was well behaved.

1399
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's because he was old. Yeah. If

1400
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,639
you can game the system a little bit and your

1401
01:08:09,639 --> 01:08:10,559
dog's on an asshole.

1402
01:08:10,639 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 3: Wow, Well, there's an old Frank Kelly endo bit that

1403
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,280
he used to do for ESPN when he was on

1404
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,800
ESPN and he was impersonating all the coaches. He's in

1405
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,159
person in your Rex Ryan and Bill Belichick at the

1406
01:08:19,159 --> 01:08:19,720
same time.

1407
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 2: And Rex Ryan's got his bills hat on and his

1408
01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:25,479
vest to go. You can't have a dog in a restaurant.

1409
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 3: And he's playing Belichick. Now, guess mister Brady's a service

1410
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,880
dog like Belichick's always trying to game the system.

1411
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, We'll take a moment. In a world where

1412
01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:39,520
almost anything can be bought online, should human remains be

1413
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:44,119
for sale at all? We will get to that right

1414
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:48,039
after this. Connorson Ferris handles workers comp, social security, disability

1415
01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:51,960
and personal injury cases. Listen, I get it, workers' comp

1416
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,520
claims could be a real pain, but Connors and Ferris

1417
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,800
are here to fight for you and get you the

1418
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,239
compensation you deserve, whether you threw out your back on

1419
01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:04,520
the job, slipped when you should have gripped, or your

1420
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:09,000
boss thinks overtime means free labor. Spoiler, it doesn't. They've

1421
01:09:09,039 --> 01:09:11,720
got your back. At Connors and Ferris, with offices in

1422
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,439
New York City, Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo. They're the go

1423
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:20,000
to team for getting the compensation you deserve. No gimmicks,

1424
01:09:20,079 --> 01:09:25,039
no nonsense, just real results. Call connorson Ferris two six'

1425
01:09:25,159 --> 01:09:28,760
to two. Comp that's two six' two Comp for Connors,

1426
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:54,479
and farris sweet son of the accordingon Laugh full reign.

1427
01:09:58,119 --> 01:10:08,039
Speaker 3: Coming down i'm a shoe left for the rain here

1428
01:10:08,119 --> 01:10:11,039
in room where no one gets.

1429
01:10:12,119 --> 01:10:14,159
Speaker 1: Very cool it sounds like want of.

1430
01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 5: The here.

1431
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 2: I've gotten pleased, To Go, BEN morrison.

1432
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 1: I FOUND out i Love that john. This one this.

1433
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: IS great i wouldn't know if It Was.

1434
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: John higher It's Not. John, high okay those guys. NEVER

1435
01:10:34,119 --> 01:10:36,439
could i think you'll put it together in. A second

1436
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:43,680
and you can hear. That thunder you know That means

1437
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:52,359
jun the guyt. Of trouble the. Won't disappear so you

1438
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:57,479
asked for forging For, thee yep how'd? YOU know i

1439
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:04,800
know there's? None coming lafful of rain me l w

1440
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:07,840
and the forecast.

1441
01:11:08,159 --> 01:11:11,079
Speaker 2: Is dubricotto.

1442
01:11:16,399 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 1: Well that really has a wait sound. To it the.

1443
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,800
GRAB room i. Wouldn't know, All right i'm trying to

1444
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,800
see if somebody else comes, Into it.

1445
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,319
Speaker 4: The laugh Full.

1446
01:11:31,359 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: Of ring, let's See It's. John mellen, oh Wow It's.

1447
01:11:42,039 --> 01:11:45,520
John mellencamp and it Should Be. John mellencamp And. It's

1448
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:51,239
springsteen sure here It's Called The life Full of rain checking.

1449
01:11:51,359 --> 01:11:53,800
The Wood. That's.

1450
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 3: Mellencamp, Wow yeah springsteen's in.

1451
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: It too He and springsteen did something to. GET two

1452
01:12:01,159 --> 01:12:03,720
i did not. Know, that, Yeah, wow yeah he went Out. To,

1453
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,039
indiana uh and he did a. Whole. THING yeah i

1454
01:12:08,079 --> 01:12:09,760
thought we talked about it on. The pod maybe.

1455
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 2: WE did i missed.

1456
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,039
Speaker 1: That thing. YOU might i, don't know but that was

1457
01:12:13,119 --> 01:12:18,119
the Uh. Yeah mellencamp mellencamp's daughter has a, Brain Tumor,

1458
01:12:19,239 --> 01:12:24,239
teddy mellencamp AND she's i think something came across that

1459
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,840
the doctors are giving her a fifty to. Fifty, chance

1460
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,520
wow and she's. Very scared but And that john has

1461
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:36,520
already started preparing for. HER funeral i shouldn't laugh, at

1462
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,239
THAT but, i go? Wouldn't it like the fact that

1463
01:12:39,399 --> 01:12:42,560
that's known, is like that's what a time to? Be,

1464
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,960
alive well do you Know what i'm saying like THAT

1465
01:12:45,079 --> 01:12:47,800
hit tmg or Something that john's. Already, PREPARED well, i

1466
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,000
go hang on, a, Second timeout.

1467
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,039
Speaker 3: Is it what you want for? A casket you a?

1468
01:12:51,119 --> 01:12:55,359
Speaker 1: Burgadae want wouldn't? We want it might have been it

1469
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,079
might Have been teddy saying that my dad's already preparing

1470
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,159
my funeral. Or something maybe you maybe that was. IN

1471
01:13:01,319 --> 01:13:03,560
jest i, don't know she's preparing for. THE worst i.

1472
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,279
Don't know but the thing, is LIKE wouldn't i would

1473
01:13:06,359 --> 01:13:09,479
want to come with all. THE positivity i would want

1474
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:13,119
to come with all. The POSITIVITY would i privately maybe be? Doing,

1475
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:17,600
something POSSIBLY but i ain't. TELLING you i want. ALL

1476
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,119
positivity i want this, to work AND maybe i wouldn't

1477
01:13:20,119 --> 01:13:22,680
even do it just, to, go hey when the worst

1478
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,600
comes that they know What to there are people who

1479
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,880
know how to do this right when the. Worst comes

1480
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,039
so that's. ALL right i look at my daughter, and,

1481
01:13:31,119 --> 01:13:32,560
go hey do you KNOW who? I Am I'm.

1482
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 2: John mellencamp they're not going to screw.

1483
01:13:34,039 --> 01:13:34,319
Speaker 3: This up.

1484
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm famous there is a story about a fifty two year.

1485
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,960
Old woman her name Is Kimberly. Ann schoper she. Was

1486
01:13:43,119 --> 01:13:45,119
arrested did she used to do a show. In, town.

1487
01:13:45,359 --> 01:13:50,920
No okay on she was arrested for selling human. Bones

1488
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:55,880
online sure was you to do? A? Show? She uh, literal, skulls,

1489
01:13:56,039 --> 01:14:02,239
ribs vertebrae and clavicles all up for Grabs, On facebook

1490
01:14:02,279 --> 01:14:10,520
marketplace and a Website Called. Wicked. Wonderland uh she and

1491
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,840
her business reportedly sold human remains, for years claiming they were.

1492
01:14:15,039 --> 01:14:17,760
Educational MODELS so i don't know why we're busting. This

1493
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,600
person they've done it. For years you haven't turned up.

1494
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:27,159
SOMEBODY missing i. Don't know i'm wondering because then further

1495
01:14:27,279 --> 01:14:32,560
in the article they say, she had she claims she

1496
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:37,680
had documentation for. Educational models she couldn't produce it, WHEN

1497
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,359
questioned i might have been under.

1498
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 3: Dog ate My, paper yeah my support dog ate. The

1499
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,600
paperwork also he ate his. Own paperwork So now i'm

1500
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:50,800
in trouble. For both, but.

1501
01:14:51,399 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 1: Police according to, this woman and and can you guess

1502
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:59,079
what state this may have, Happened, to florida it's not. Even.

1503
01:14:59,159 --> 01:15:03,640
Hesitation Sorry, in florida she, sees bones including a partial

1504
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,680
human skull priced at six. Hundred, bucks, wow yeah a,

1505
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:12,399
lot frams and later confirmed that, that some according, to

1506
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:17,119
police were, archaeological fines potentially over five hundred. Years, Old

1507
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:23,359
Okay so i'm, Going okay i'm sure there were burial

1508
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,880
grounds and things five hundred. Years ago so is there

1509
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,439
ethical grave robbing? GOING on i don't know that you

1510
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,000
could call, It ethical but is there robbing grave robbing? Going,

1511
01:15:35,039 --> 01:15:37,399
on look we. PLOWED through i think people live on

1512
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:42,119
what used to be. Burial, grounds, Yeah Pines, jesus christ

1513
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:47,279
we gotta go Hiking. Every saturday the Schour The schoper

1514
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,399
schoper argued ignorance of, the law and she was still

1515
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,960
charged with training human tissue and released the seventy five hundred.

1516
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:57,399
Dollars spond but the legal and ethical mass is already. Fully,

1517
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,880
alive look we had somebody here that that was selling

1518
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,800
in the, funeral BUSINESS and i don't, know WHY because

1519
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,520
i think it costs more to have didn't we? Do

1520
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,880
this some story about there was more to have people

1521
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,439
displayed than it was to burn.

1522
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: Them, up, yeah, Right yeah and as we go straight

1523
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,359
to do not pass go just go straight.

1524
01:16:17,399 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: To cremations but there was Somebody. Who YEAH then i

1525
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,760
was wondering if they do a discount of like they

1526
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,720
fry three people at once and you just get a bunch,

1527
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,199
of ashes what's.

1528
01:16:29,079 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 2: That an old joke from a.

1529
01:16:30,079 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 1: Cow. THAT no i. Think, that no we were talking

1530
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:35,920
about that with, my DOG but i. Don't know it could.

1531
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:36,199
HAVE been i.

1532
01:16:36,239 --> 01:16:38,119
Speaker 3: Don't really we saw you had a funeral this. Week

1533
01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:40,760
too we were wondering if, we could, you know go

1534
01:16:41,039 --> 01:16:44,199
halves and, this week, you know you share the ROOM

1535
01:16:44,279 --> 01:16:45,119
and i will share the.

1536
01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:50,039
Speaker 1: Room too but there was a funeral poller here that Was,

1537
01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:51,000
selling yeah.

1538
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,199
Speaker 3: About twenty, years ago bought. Body, harvesting, yeah yeah.

1539
01:16:53,279 --> 01:16:54,520
Speaker 1: Body harvestings it's a.

1540
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:59,199
Speaker 3: Big, topic YEAH and i which people will people, didn't,

1541
01:16:59,239 --> 01:17:02,399
CARE well. I did i produced a talk show at.

1542
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,680
That point think of a big talker here. In town

1543
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,840
when you came back on the air after, his hiatus

1544
01:17:07,159 --> 01:17:09,560
one of his first shows was about the body. Harvesting

1545
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,119
thing and people called up, And, Said bob. I'm sorry,

1546
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,680
they Said when, I'M gone i don't care what you

1547
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,359
do with. My body just put it in. The ground

1548
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,680
you want to take? Bones, Out, Fine yeah and he

1549
01:17:19,119 --> 01:17:21,479
was kind of freaked out because nine callers out of ten, were, like,

1550
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,279
yeah whatever we. Don't care but you can't do that

1551
01:17:24,399 --> 01:17:27,640
without telling people if They're. Not organs you didn't sign

1552
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:28,159
a car to.

1553
01:17:28,239 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: Do, THAT no i. DON'T know i don't think you can.

1554
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,560
DO it i think they were. SELLING it i don't

1555
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,079
know what. THEY were i think they were selling it

1556
01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:41,680
to hospitals and things for like rebuilds or it could be.

1557
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,880
OR science i think they were selling tendons.

1558
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,279
Speaker 3: And, things yeah, that's, well YEAH because, i mean like

1559
01:17:47,359 --> 01:17:51,159
a cadaver parts actually have been used in surgeries for.

1560
01:17:51,239 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: Other, people yeah the whole THING that, i go you

1561
01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:01,359
have a five hundred year? Old bone where did you get?

1562
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:05,520
Speaker 3: That, from well They say florida Was Like poonce Daleleone.

1563
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,199
Discovered florida he Was a spanish, you know adventurer and.

1564
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:13,319
In Whatever The fountain youth was Supposedly. In florida and

1565
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:14,960
we know now with all those old people going now

1566
01:18:15,039 --> 01:18:18,319
that that's not. Necessarily true but UH but, i, MEAN like,

1567
01:18:18,359 --> 01:18:20,079
i mean there was a lot of life going On,

1568
01:18:20,279 --> 01:18:23,279
in florida like Long. Before america What's, the yeah but

1569
01:18:23,399 --> 01:18:24,680
what was like.

1570
01:18:26,239 --> 01:18:29,199
Speaker 1: What makes you go this is worth six? Hundred bucks

1571
01:18:29,319 --> 01:18:31,760
this is? Worth it did you get in? THE praiser i.

1572
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,760
Don't know how do you? Price it where do you find?

1573
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,439
The bones and what are you buying? Them, for look

1574
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,680
some people have said they wanted their loved one skull on.

1575
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,439
Their mantle they'd love to. Have that somebody ELSE said

1576
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,239
i would have a lamp shade made out of the

1577
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,840
skin of my. LOVED one, i go that's like. A

1578
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:53,239
wallet that. Shit's, weird yeah but, you know you get

1579
01:18:53,239 --> 01:18:58,119
a lot more niche subcultures in because.

1580
01:18:58,159 --> 01:19:01,399
Speaker 2: Of, online yes you'll find. Your, tribe yes you'll.

1581
01:19:01,399 --> 01:19:05,119
Speaker 1: Find people you've got, goth, boutiques right some of them

1582
01:19:05,159 --> 01:19:08,840
are brick. And mortar there's witchcraft things that people like

1583
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,680
to go to and and dabble in and be part

1584
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,720
of and all. THAT stuff i think there's. A store

1585
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:20,439
i thought there, was One the Cabinet, Of, CURIOSITY okay

1586
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:24,880
i thought years ago that mainstream like death is an

1587
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,600
aesthetic kind, of thing and they showed you all kinds of.

1588
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,960
Different THINGS and i.

1589
01:19:30,039 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 3: DON'T know, I mean i've Heard The catholic church claims

1590
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,439
To Have mary magdalen's skull that they put on Display every.

1591
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,159
Easter week i'm not, even Joking like i've actually seen.

1592
01:19:39,199 --> 01:19:41,359
THE video i don't know if it's her, skull officially but.

1593
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 1: WHERE'S it's i think it's a romantic.

1594
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 3: In, somewhere yeah and like people who walk by it

1595
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,359
to just it's just a skull all dressed up, and

1596
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:49,399
like but.

1597
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 2: A skull, i'm like are you? Kidding me are you?

1598
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: REALLY really i. Don't, KNOW look i, MEAN people i

1599
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:56,319
know people are in the.

1600
01:19:56,359 --> 01:19:59,199
Speaker 3: Weird stuff but there's the reason why we. Have, Laws okay.

1601
01:19:59,119 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 1: Well this is. The thing like this woman was doing it.

1602
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:03,960
FOR years i don't know why she. Got. BUSTED now

1603
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:05,439
i have. No idea did the?

1604
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 3: Law change sometimes?

1605
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:10,279
Speaker 1: Laws, Change yeah, but okay but in a world where

1606
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:14,560
anything you could say, Almost anything i'm gonna say anything

1607
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:19,960
can be bought or. Sold online it's bones of. Dead

1608
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,439
people they're not being. Used, anymore no they're not being.

1609
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,319
Used anymore i've seen they're not being. Used anymore so,

1610
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,880
IT'S like i don't understand why we're busting this lady

1611
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,760
other than, you know we get a good headline out.

1612
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:32,039
Of it in.

1613
01:20:32,119 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: Some way could it be because it could lead to?

1614
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:35,159
Dot dot?

1615
01:20:35,359 --> 01:20:36,199
Speaker 3: Is? That why is it a?

1616
01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 1: Preventative measure maybe.

1617
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,119
Speaker 3: MAYBE somebody, I mean i don't love, the IDEA but i, mean, like,

1618
01:20:41,239 --> 01:20:43,560
Hey look i'm Not if i'm not using my atom's.

1619
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,399
Speaker 2: Apple, anymore, hey listen you have no.

1620
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:51,279
Speaker 1: Leeging relative, they die you can spend ten grand to get,

1621
01:20:51,319 --> 01:20:56,199
them buried or we can peel the bones out, of

1622
01:20:56,239 --> 01:20:59,720
them and you can't get maybe six hundred dollars for

1623
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,880
the goal one hundred and fifty for. A femur there's

1624
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,920
a guy who's making some bank here in town doing,

1625
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,640
this stuff you Know what, I'm saying like there's, A, way,

1626
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,800
yeah yeah they're like only In The, united, States though

1627
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,840
can you buy a rib because one of them was

1628
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:17,479
a Rib on facebook and still not? Get healthcare you

1629
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,600
could buy. Affordable healthcare there's not a decent, healthcare plan

1630
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:22,279
but you can get.

1631
01:21:22,279 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 3: A rib my dad told me a story about a

1632
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,279
Guy in dunkerk who owned a funeral home and what

1633
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:28,800
was happening was and he got away. With it he

1634
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,319
got he got found not guilty. For it but the

1635
01:21:30,359 --> 01:21:34,319
story was that like HE would i, DON'T know i

1636
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,319
know he could, do this but he would like put

1637
01:21:36,399 --> 01:21:40,399
the bodies like in like, a, casket right and then

1638
01:21:40,399 --> 01:21:42,600
you're not supposed to reuse caskets once. It's used it's

1639
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,199
got to be like going to cremation if you're going

1640
01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:46,439
to cremate. The body so he would take the cremated

1641
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,479
remains instead of like. Cremating them he would just take,

1642
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,920
the body harvest, the bones reuse the casket for the next,

1643
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,439
cremated body and then just bury the body in like

1644
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,239
cardboard or in like some type of wood coffin and

1645
01:21:58,359 --> 01:22:00,640
basically just hand them ashes from his fire place, and,

1646
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,439
say Hey. Here's teddy, no REALLY so i should have

1647
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:04,960
used The. Word teddy that's the first name that came.

1648
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,800
To mind i'm not Saying that mellcamp's daughter is. Gonna

1649
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,479
die that's NOT what. I meant i'm, just saying, you, know.

1650
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah but you know. My points he really, Did this,

1651
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:14,319
oh yeah and he.

1652
01:22:14,319 --> 01:22:17,039
Speaker 3: Got found not guilty. For it but their story don't take,

1653
01:22:17,079 --> 01:22:18,760
your body don't take your loved one to sew and

1654
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,600
so why? Is that the legend grew and eventually he

1655
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:21,920
was brought.

1656
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 2: To court they couldn't.

1657
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,399
Speaker 1: Prove it but then he was like it was Viral

1658
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:27,159
And silver creek.

1659
01:22:27,199 --> 01:22:29,319
Speaker 3: Before, viral yeah this is like in, the, nineties man

1660
01:22:29,359 --> 01:22:32,720
when life was. Worth living here's the OTHER thing i thought.

1661
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,119
Of you you Know what i'm driving? Out thoughts, YOU

1662
01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:36,680
know i said, ONE day i, told, YOU yeah i

1663
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,279
got a lot. Of thoughts, You know like now they

1664
01:22:39,319 --> 01:22:41,359
ask you AT the dmv if you want to become an.

1665
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,439
Organ donor and OF course i, Say No and i've

1666
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,119
told You why i've said. No before we talked. About

1667
01:22:46,159 --> 01:22:48,520
that why Let's Say i'm i'm dying at the same

1668
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,640
time a celebrity. Is dying like let's Say Don, al,

1669
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,680
hart right, and oh, you know we could Help don

1670
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:53,439
alhart if we Give Him.

1671
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: Danny's libertine he's not gonna do you think they're gonna?

1672
01:22:56,079 --> 01:22:57,359
Speaker 2: Kill, you yeah we've talked.

1673
01:22:57,359 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 3: About this but what if there was a list of

1674
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,159
PEOPLE that i would COINCIDENTALLY if i died a ond

1675
01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:03,239
the same time they needed.

1676
01:23:03,039 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 2: Something give my body. Parts too could you do a?

1677
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,319
Speaker 3: Wish LIST because i got a few people in MIND

1678
01:23:08,359 --> 01:23:10,319
that i would give my body. Parts TOO if i

1679
01:23:10,399 --> 01:23:12,840
were like on the on, the, edge Okay Like, DOUG emblich.

1680
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:13,399
Speaker 1: I would do That For Dom.

1681
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 2: Greg, CONNORS no i do it for him, my wife.

1682
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: That's nice I'm Just. Josh allen Like If, josh allen.

1683
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,359
Speaker 3: YOU know i would sacrifice for the greater Good Of BUFFALO.

1684
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:28,159
Speaker 1: Bill's Maffi If josh allen got your shoulder tendons and

1685
01:23:28,239 --> 01:23:30,279
his whole fucking career, WENT down i could.

1686
01:23:30,079 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 3: See THE esp i could See The tom naldy Piece

1687
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,000
on fox Before The. Super, bowl right my mom and

1688
01:23:35,079 --> 01:23:37,920
my Wife Rubbing josh. Allen shoulder that's your that's your.

1689
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,560
Ex husband and my wife starts crying because you see

1690
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,680
those videos of people like where like the mom did

1691
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:45,359
that the kid had the.

1692
01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 2: Heart, transplant yeah.

1693
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 3: That is your son's heart beating inside his chest and she.

1694
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,319
STARTS bawling I just i would love to be his

1695
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:52,920
shoulder TENDONS if i, had to or.

1696
01:23:53,039 --> 01:23:57,119
Speaker 1: HIS liver i got a friend request TODAY and, i,

1697
01:23:57,239 --> 01:24:00,319
go wow that name. SOUNDS familiar i don't know. THE

1698
01:24:00,359 --> 01:24:04,640
person i didn't recognize the picture and it was. A

1699
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,319
woman it was, a Woman and i'm looking at IT and,

1700
01:24:08,359 --> 01:24:11,159
I go i. Don't KNOW so i hit IT because,

1701
01:24:11,159 --> 01:24:13,800
I go, I, wonder no the face doesn't. Look familiar

1702
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:18,079
AND then i NOTICE because i want, to, see like is?

1703
01:24:18,119 --> 01:24:21,399
It spam is it somebody potentially in our area who's

1704
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,760
listening to? The podcast what? Would be and it goes

1705
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:31,199
in her About widowed, april fourth twenty. TWENTY five i,

1706
01:24:31,319 --> 01:24:36,800
was like damn about.

1707
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 3: MOVING on i.

1708
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 1: DON'T know i don't think she WAS moving i don't

1709
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,479
think she was hitting, on Me don't that's not my

1710
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,520
point that's not. MY point i just thought you put

1711
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:48,000
that up. There pretty i'm sure it was shocking and grieving,

1712
01:24:48,079 --> 01:24:52,279
in whatever because you look fairly young or not some

1713
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:56,199
we would expect. To die, but Uh it's april THIRTEENTH

1714
01:24:56,239 --> 01:25:01,720
when i get this, friend Request yet tommy be in.

1715
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:05,119
Speaker 2: The ground yeah that sounds Like A Phil donna. Hue

1716
01:25:05,119 --> 01:25:05,680
episode when?

1717
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:09,239
Speaker 3: Is okay like, you know when is too soon after

1718
01:25:09,319 --> 01:25:12,840
your your loved one dies to make? Yourself AVAILABLE like

1719
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:13,399
i remember ONE.

1720
01:25:13,359 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 2: Time i was dating.

1721
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 3: THIS girl i think she listened to, this podcast and

1722
01:25:16,119 --> 01:25:18,760
after we had, BROKEN up i immediately Changed my facebook

1723
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:19,880
status to single and she.

1724
01:25:20,239 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 2: Text me, she, goes wow that. Was fast, they go what?

1725
01:25:22,039 --> 01:25:27,159
Speaker 1: It's, Over yeah, i'm. SINGLE baby i was committed. To

1726
01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:31,039
you we're no. Longer committed i'm. Moving on. That's it danny's. Moving.

1727
01:25:31,119 --> 01:25:36,399
Speaker 3: On yeah two, wives later, Doing, well yeah.

1728
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: Doing well everything's going. Doing great.

1729
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 2: That's right she's the REASON why i had that wish

1730
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,800
list for my like. Organ donation You're like RORY at

1731
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:45,800
augusta twelve.

1732
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: Under again see see if he pulls? It off, All,

1733
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,239
right well it's gonna be fun to. Watch HERE and

1734
01:25:51,359 --> 01:25:53,720
i think a great take from you. On, d chambeau

1735
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:55,520
who is nine. Under.

1736
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 3: It yeah by, THE way i. Gotta Apologize peyton manning

1737
01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:59,000
is a. GOOD dude i just want to make. That

1738
01:25:59,119 --> 01:25:59,880
cube somebody sent me.

1739
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 2: A text, I, go no, my friend My, friend freddy, He,

1740
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:04,439
goes dude you gotta.

1741
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: BE careful. I go he's a.

1742
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,239
Speaker 3: Great Dude bt many is a great interest. In ten

1743
01:26:07,319 --> 01:26:08,199
he's not as aw shucks as.

1744
01:26:08,239 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 2: People think.

1745
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,239
Speaker 3: That's all he's a.

1746
01:26:10,239 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 1: Good, dude okay it's gonna make Sure, people, Okay, sorry yeah,

1747
01:26:15,199 --> 01:26:15,880
go ahead sweat.

1748
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,239
Speaker 2: That out it's, the, comboots.

1749
01:26:17,279 --> 01:26:19,079
Speaker 1: YEAH takes i. HAVE fear i. Have fear let that

1750
01:26:19,159 --> 01:26:22,279
out and the therapy will. Take over he might for.

1751
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,920
A Monkey I'm, bill moran will see you Tomorrow for.

1752
01:26:26,079 --> 01:26:30,840
Candida team please somewhere in the pat go. Down side

1753
01:26:31,239 --> 01:26:33,319
what shivering in the dark fur