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Speaker 3: They're on the line right now. Gentlemen, how are you guys.

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Speaker 2: Doing, hey, Ben Daywell, how you doing?

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Speaker 3: Living the dream?

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Speaker 4: Guys live in the dream dream And Brian Kelly maybe

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living the dream if he gets fifty four million dollars

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in his buy out. You know, let me fifty four

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Let me put my my pinky to my mouth here, guys,

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Brian Kelly suing LSU right now too.

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Speaker 3: What's going on with this?

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of hullaballoo, a lot of ruck is

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going on in Louisiana.

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Speaker 5: Lots going on. So the background on this, as you know,

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about a month ago reported that Brian Kelly down to

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the LSU he been.

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Speaker 2: Fired, let's just say fired.

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Speaker 5: LSU came out with a statement that said LSU Athletics

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has made us to separate from Brian Kelly, effective immediately.

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Speaker 2: Terms of separation being negotiated, and then they.

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Speaker 5: Want to say that basically, ultimately he hadn't reached the

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level of success that LSU demands, and it simply did

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not materialize, and they made it. The ad says, made

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a change after last night's game. Brian Kelly, he responds,

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and he confirms. He says, Hey, just send in a

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quick note to confirm that I have been terminated and

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I'm going to comply with all of the rules of

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my contract. I'm going to clean out my office, my locker,

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return everything I've got. Well, what was all to talk

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for the next few weeks. It was, Wow, he's got

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a fifty four million dollar buyout, you know, go sell

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the seeds, get on your yacht and go.

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Speaker 2: And that was all the talk.

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Speaker 5: And there's been several other high profile programs right that

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have let their coaches go, Penn State, a few of

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the mo others, But seems like a lot of controversy

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surrounding LSU and talk about LSU. Well, what's happened is money.

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LSU comes out this week and says, wait a minute,

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we haven't really terminated Brian Kelly.

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Speaker 2: Just yet. We haven't really terminated him.

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Speaker 5: And oh, by the way, we think we're gonna fire

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him for cause, and that caught the attention of everyone

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and especially caught the tension of Brian.

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Speaker 2: Kelly and his lawyers.

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Speaker 5: So what they did, incidentally, four cause is usually something

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in contracts of coaches at you know, pros, colleges, all

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kinds of things that's basically a character clause that basically says,

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if you do certain things and you do this and

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that outside of you know, being a football coach, we

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can fire you for cause. And if we fire for cause,

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guess what, we're not on the hook for anything. So

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don't come at us. I mean, there's been a lot

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of these around the country. Most notably there was, you know,

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the coach of at Utah State was close to home.

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He was fired for cause and he's battling that. I

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don't know what's happened. But Brian Kelly caught win to this,

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and guess what he did. He and his lawyers they

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ran to court and they filed a lawsuit against LSU,

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first off, claiming breach of contracts, saying.

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Speaker 2: Hey, wait a minute, you fired me. Part of my.

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Speaker 5: Contract was I have a buyout clause and whatever's remaining

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on it in this case, fifty four million you owe

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me for it. And they also asked the court to

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declare they fly out what's called for declaratory relief to

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the court look at this and say, yeah, you've been fired.

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So I think it's a really bad look for LSU.

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LSU is really you know, the governor last week said

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he was going to be the one hiring the coach,

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and you know they've gone gotten rid of their ad

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and now they've got an assistant AD but says it's

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a temporary ad. And you know who's going to want

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to really play it LSU. You know, whether you like

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Brian Kelly or not, or you know, or a fan

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of his. I think he got fired and he's owed

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his money. That's part of the contract.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: Just ask jimbo Fisher and how it worked.

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Speaker 2: Out for him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it appears that not only is he going

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to get his payout, but then LSU may have to

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pay more in legal fees and additional funds.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's a bad look.

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Speaker 5: It's a bad look. I think he's gonna get it.

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we'll pay you. I loved some thirty thousand dollars, and

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he said, why would I do that?

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Speaker 2: I got fifty four coming my way. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So initially in the article that I was just reading,

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they proposed twenty five million dollars.

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Speaker 3: And then they're like, well, okay, we'll give you thirty.

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Speaker 4: He's like, nah, I'm getting that fifty four.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like the right number to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Just I think you'll get it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: Let's move on to the to the baseball diamond Guardian

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pitcher Guardians pitchers charged in pitchitch fixing schemes.

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Speaker 3: Man, there's a lot of these.

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Speaker 4: Gambling poker, there's a lot of scheming going on in

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the athletic Major League Baseball NFL shoot, a lot of

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of this, ben and I think we're

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just gonna keep seeing these kinds of cases, you know,

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hit the news. And so this latest one involves two

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Cleveland Guardians pitchers, Emmanuel Clayce and Louise Ortiz, and they've

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been alleged that they were throwing, you know, making throwing

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particular pitches right and tipping off their co conspirators.

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Speaker 2: To place bets.

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Speaker 6: I guess in one case, I mean Place was Emmanuel

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on his own behalf. But basically that these pitches would

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be above or below a certain velocity. You know, so

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fastball and this time you threw a ninety two mile

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an hour and hit into the dirt or whatever, and

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of the strike zone, you know, a ball or strike

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or whatever. So it's I think part of the problem, Ben,

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is that it's just really easy to make these prop bets,

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these micro bets, right, And Major League Baseball has come out,

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you know, in response to this against these micro bets.

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league season, and you can bet on a single pitch,

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guys have been both been charged with buyer fraud, bribery,

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money laundering. They've been arraigned at this point, both of them,

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they've pled not guilty. The one was in Dominican Republican

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Manuel Klace but he's back now and has period to

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court in New York. You know, their co conspirators from

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the numbers, looks like they made about four hundred and

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fifty thousand dollars and these guys took a small take

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of that some percentage, I guess, which is just a

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fraction of what they make as major league pitchers. So

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kind of crazy, but they've you know, their careers are

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probably done and maybe maybe going to prison.

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Speaker 4: So you know, gambling, you know, is not paying off

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for the athletes that are or the coaches not as

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well that are that are gambling on games and and

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trying to fix this.

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Speaker 3: What what is the fascination right now? Do you think?

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, gambling has always been a part of sport,

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but it seems like it's becoming it's coming to a forefront.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: Is this the modern day digitize you know, online gambling

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experience just corrupting everything that we love about sport?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is.

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Speaker 6: I mean, and I think gambling has been gamified, right,

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and it's it's easy to do. You can do it

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from your phone, it's ubiquitous, it's everywhere. And these guys

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are competitive, right, and so they're gonna play a game

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on the game and uh, you know up the ante

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and and just you know, make it more more interesting

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or more challenging or whatever. But it's it's gonna land

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a lot of a lot of player in a lot

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of hot water. And now fans are going to question

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when that ball hits the dirt, you know, did they

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you know, was that a legitimate pitcher or not?

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Speaker 3: And that's a problem, no doubt about it. Let's move

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over to college football.

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Speaker 4: Little update on former Stanford coach Troy Taylor and the

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ESPN lawsuit. Where do we stand in this one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it has a little bit of a local flavor

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for anyone here. You know, maybe that Paul's University of Utah,

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but bal Troy Taylor was THEOC at the youth for

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number of years.

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Speaker 2: He got the.

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Speaker 5: Head coach job at Sacramento State and did really well

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Stanford when they were I think it was was a

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Brian Shaw that was the.

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Speaker 2: Coach there and he was hired there.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he was after that, but he was hired at Stanford.

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really good record, and.

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Speaker 2: While he was coaching there.

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Speaker 5: E FBN apparently caught win some investigation going on with

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the allegations that.

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Speaker 2: Troy Taylor.

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Speaker 5: He was kind of a hostile work environment, that's one thing,

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but that he was actually belittling multiple employees, bullying multiple

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gender based complaints, that type of thing. And ESPN ran a.

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Speaker 2: Pretty fiery story on this type of stuff.

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Speaker 5: And about the investigation. It was really just an investigation,

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and they used the words bullied and belittled in reference

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to Troy Taylor. Well, Troy Taylor ultimately was fired and

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in his opinion, fired for cause because of this very story.

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about four cause. Stanford said, yeah, because of this investigation,

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this stuff going on, we're.

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Speaker 2: Firing you for cause. Well, he thinks it was because

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of the story.

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Speaker 5: And guess what, he lost a lot of money. And

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in a defamation case, he filed a defamation lawsuit against

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the reporter and against the In the defamation lawsuit, you

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have to show a number of things. You got to

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show that there was a false statement that was published

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or verbalized, and that that statement caused injured or caused

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damage like financial damage. The other part of it at

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through pristeen is a defamation lawsuit against a public figure.

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public figure. He might be, he might not. He's not

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a real household name. But you have to actually show

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actual malice that the false statement was made, the alleged

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false statement was made with actual malice. Well, he filed

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a lawsuit against the ESPN claiming that you guys jumped

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Speaker 2: It was bad reporting, and.

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Speaker 5: They've now filed what's called the motion to just miss

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the legal terms, but it was kind of like, hey,

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we got it mostly right. You know, it might be

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an issue of semantics. You know, let's not quibble about numbers.

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we got it mostly right. And they point to a

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case in California where the judge says, hey, the law

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isn't required to justify the literal truth of every word

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in allegedly defamatory content, and it's okay to have minor accuracies,

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they aren't to be equated with false statements. Well, Troy

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basically saying, hey, Judge, based on what we have here,

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we think there's evidence to get rid of us. Troy

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these statements that you made were in fact faults. And

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so what it's going to come down he says. He

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says there was no public controversy at the time that

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they reported it, and that he took no affirmative steps

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to jump into the controversy. But they just went ahead

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and jumped the gun and reported this. So what's come

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down to is what's called truth and reporting. You know,

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how far does that go?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 5: And so I, you know, the question is Jud's going

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that they'll they won't dismiss it, and they'll let it

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go through its channels right now and maybe down the

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road they'll file another motion to get rid of it,

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but probably need to have some fact discovery. I think

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Garrett disagrees with me on this. He thinks Troy Taylor

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pontificate on that. Then on the opposite spectrum.

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argument here that their reporting was substantially true. And and

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if you're gonna, you know, just split hairs on on

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whether he you know, did he actually be little this

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woman or on the staff or bully her as opposed

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to just mistreat her, you know the definitions of these words.

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is substantially true and and we should get out on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, always intrigued to see how these uh these these

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lawsuits play out. What are the saddest stories over the

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last few years from a football standpoint? I mean, I

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love Antonio Brown in his heyday, he was a great

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football player. He's been extradited from Dubai to face attempted

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murder charges.

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Speaker 3: I mean, from.

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Speaker 4: Hero to zero real quick in life. Give us an

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update on this one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not looking good for ab right now. I mean,

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just this morning he was released on a twenty five

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thousand dollars bail and is required to wear an inkle monitor.

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That follows on Tuesday, he had pled you know, an

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enrayment and had pled not guilty ender to not guilty plea.

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last four months or so in Dubai basically hiding out,

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not doing a very good job of it because he's

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posting on social media all the time. And what he

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was hiding out from is an altercation that happened in

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May after a Miami boxing match, where he got in

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a scuffle with some guys you know, they had some

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history together. But there's there's there's video of him apparently

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grabbing the gun from a security guard and chasing after

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these guys and firing a couple of shots.

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Speaker 2: Uh, no one was killed.

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Speaker 6: These are attempted murder charges, but nonetheless very very serious. Uh,

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he's in some big time trouble and uh, you know,

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kind of interesting these some of these legal issues with

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you know, extradition. You know, another story that we talked

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about in the past was the issue of you know,

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Britney Griner, you know, who was held in prison in

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Russia on a marijuana charge. But here this is a

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different situation where the United States has you know, pretty

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good relationship with UAE, where Dubai is located and they're

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willing to, uh, you know, let the U. S. Marshals

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extradite him and bring him back to the United States

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to face trial.

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Speaker 3: Antonio Brown, Jeez, there you go, crazy man. Finally let's start.

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Speaker 4: Let's do this last one of you here, Jan the

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judge grants Hooper.

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Speaker 3: For Idaho State.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm kind of reading through this one a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Australia.

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Speaker 4: Hooper can play at Idaho State over nc double A objections.

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Speaker 3: What's going on with this?

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Speaker 5: Well, man, this is a story that has happened over

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and over and over the last year, year and a half.

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and he's gained a lot of notoriety at MANDY and

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we've seen a dozen of these happen. And basically the

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claim is when someone wants more eligibility or think they're

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entitled the more eligibility, and the NCAA comes in. They

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go to the NCAA and you you've been aware of

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a case like this would be a football player. The

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NCAA makes a decision and then they appeal the decision

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of the NCAA and the NCAA. Now you're out of eligibility. Well,

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what they do they run to the courts and their

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claim essentially is an anti trust claim. They're saying that

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I'm being prevented from competing and earning money. It's an

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anti trust violation. And this one involves, you know, same story,

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different player. This is a very well known hooper from Australia,

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Caleb van de Green. Everybody's heard of the hymn right, Well,

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he's got an interesting history. He played one year at

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Monette State at Division two school. I have no clue

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where that is. Then he played three years at the

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University of North Dakota and played really well at three

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there and his play caught the tension of the Mighty

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Ihills State Bengals and they wanted to play for him. Well,

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guess what the NCAA said, You're out of You're out

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of luck, you're out of eligibility. And what made this

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complicated is he played in an Australian league. I don't

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know if it's a semi pro league or something like

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that was called NVL one in this during this these

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years and the and the NCAA said, no, you feiled,

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you delayed your enrollments, so you're out of luck. Well,

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the judge disagreed with the NCAA and they he filed

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suit against the nca and saw what's called the temporary

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resine order. It basically says the NCAA is restrained from

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imposing this their rule right now and we'll fight about

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in the court. Well, the judge granted it, saying, hey,

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right now, if I don't grant this, it'll suffer He'll

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suffer reparable harm, monetary damages, he'll be foreclosed from joining

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his teammates, losing on attention of renowned playing Division one basketball.

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So it was really an easy decision for the judge.

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He's not decided on the merits per se. He's just

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saying I'm not going to enforce it right now, and

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we'll decide down the line. But guess what, it ain't

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gonna be decided down the line, because by the time

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this makes it way through the courts again, our guy,

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Caleb Van de Green will be long gone from Ida

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host state and he'll have played his last year of eligibility.

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Speaker 4: Crazy times in the sports court once again. Guy's always

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a pleasure talking these lawsuits, the chaos, the goodness, grace,

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it's always crazy.

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Speaker 3: But you know what's crazy is people get in accident's right.

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Speaker 4: Accidents happen fast and help should be faster at headache, Handy,

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you guys do the best job. Big firm experience, small

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firm attention. Over forty five years of experience. You're always

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fighting for Utah's injured, one case at a time, and

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they don't pay unless you guys win. What's the best

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way to get a hold of you, guys? And why

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should they reach out to you if they've been in

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an accident?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Best? Oh, go ahead, Preston, Yeah, I'll jump in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: We love coming on here, Ben and talking about these

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legal issues in the world of sports. Crazy issues, interesting issues.

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But as you mentioned, we're a personal injury law firm.

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Speaker 3: That's Handy Law Utah dot com.

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Speaker 4: Eight oh one two six four sixty six seven seven gentlemen,

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always a pleasure, Thanks for much, Thanks so much for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Ben.

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Speaker 4: All right, there you have it at Handylawutah dot com.

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Let's take a brief time out. We'll come back though

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little keeping up with the Cougars with Blaine Fowler, former

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Speaker 3: Uh what uh? What is he see in from TCU? Uh?

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Speaker 4: Can BYU go three? And oh for the rest of

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the season, All that and more coming up next. This

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