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want to like, I'm not even gonna look amazing tonight.

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I love what you're wearing a sandwich. Oh my god,

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they're all I have an angry closs. That is life.

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Speaker 2: Like whoa, Hello, everybody, Welcome back to an incredibly special

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episode of Holly Randall Unfiltered. And it's not just because

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I have an amazing guest, which I do, but I

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am so excited to be here in my brand new studio. People,

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I have backlight, which is all I ever wanted in life.

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Speaker 3: The flyways may make me reconsider it's very strong backlight,

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but uh, you know, I couldn't get backlight. My old

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studio was too small, and now I have backlight and

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it makes me very happy, maybe until I see this

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feed and then I'm like, oh.

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Speaker 1: God, backlight was a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: But for now I'm going to pretend like I look

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amazing and that you guys are so impressed with my

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new space. And of course this is all thanks to

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my exclusive sponsors at Stripchat.

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Speaker 1: I would not be here.

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Speaker 2: I would not have been able to upgrade for you guys,

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if it wasn't for them. Stripchat is the number one

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adult live streaming site in the world. If you don't

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believe me, go check out Wikipedia's top fifty websites of

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twenty twenty five, and I mean like includes Amazon, LinkedIn,

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like Google, like everything. They are number forty one. They

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are the only camming website in the top fifty. The

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other ones were all Tube sites and there was only

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three of them. So when I say that stripchat is

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the biggest camsite in the world, like it's not just

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lip service. Like they really are and they're amazing people.

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They have an incredible amount of traffic. If you're somebody

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who's looking to get into camming, you don't have to

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have a big social media following to be successful. You

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can jump right on there. The traffic is all there,

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your people are way for you. They have amazing community

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managers that will help walk you through every step. It

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is definitely the place to be if you want to

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give your career a little jump start or try something different.

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all kinds of interesting, fun, sexy people, stripchat is the

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place to go. You can follow them on Instagram and

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YouTube at scworld dot official, and of course find them

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online and give them a shot. All right, So my

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guest today is an incredibly successful melf who started off

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her career in mainstream and now she's killing it an adult.

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Speaker 1: And I'm very excited to have her here to be.

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Speaker 2: Popping my cherry in my new studio, the one and

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Only ggdor Hi.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. Of course, this

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is an amazing space. I'm so excited I get to

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be the first few guests at the studio.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you here. I will have

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more fans here next time I come here. I only

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need more fans. Only fans, That's all I need. Shas plug,

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I know, right, because we love only fans, we do,

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we really do.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, So thank you so much for coming on.

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Speaker 2: I know that like we did our little, our little

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uh pre game interview on the red carpet, Yes, and

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that clip went like viral.

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Speaker 1: It did so well.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Are you used to that kind of Does all your

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social media content do that? Well?

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Speaker 4: Like, not all of it, but I like to. When

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I like deliver something, I like to go big or

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go home. So it makes me happy when it does,

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because you know it's good for you, it's good for me,

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it's good for all of us.

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Speaker 1: So how long have you banned the industry for?

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Speaker 4: Five years this month?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow?

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Speaker 4: Five years this month? And ironically I started camming, so

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that's where I got my start. So when you said

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like you didn't need a social media following, I started

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Speaker 1: How was camming for you like when you got into it?

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who's gonna want to jump on and see me on cam?

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crazy easy, and then it kind of, you know, I

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had to find my groove. And but camping for me

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will always be where like I started. It's my home,

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it's my first love. I absolutely love camming. I can

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do it from home, and you know, when I'm done,

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throw some sweatpants on and then I'm home. So I

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absolutely love it.

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Speaker 2: You can even do it in your sweatpants.

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Speaker 5: I have.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know, like girls that tell me that

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for a little bit, some of the fans actually prefer

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those days when I'm not all made up because they

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get to see like the studio work of me, all

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like made up in hair and makeup. But those days

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on like you know and sex panther or on on campsites,

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those are just me, you know, those are like the

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real me, and they get to see like a different

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version of me. So sometimes I do Sometimes I just eat.

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I just eat like chips and just like we talk

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sports or we talk you know stuff, and it's it's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Right, you can't, you can't. The crazy part I have

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found that a lot of people don't maybe understand though,

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is they see all of you, but we don't see

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them right. So I think they think that there's like

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this deep connection sometimes and yes, like you're chatting and

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stuff and you so you are definitely getting to know them.

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Speaker 2: Do you have, Like I'm sure you've had fans that

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it's a little easier setting the boundaries.

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Speaker 4: It's something I'm still, you know, very very hard at

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work at. But you know, they I warn them and

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then I always say, like it's a three strike. You know,

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you have three shots and if you continue to push me,

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then you'll block or you're out. And I'm pretty firm

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Speaker 2: These moderators are generally like, started off as fans, right,

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and now you elevate.

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my best friends now, so they've seen me from day one,

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so they're amazing. Yeah, they're incredible.

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in the industry. So you came into adult entertainment after

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over a decade in me stream fashion, modeling, TV, infomercials,

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a Bloodhound Gang music video which with Bam mcgara.

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long I was.

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Speaker 4: Like, oh my god, right, no right, blasts in the past.

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Speaker 1: What made you finally crossover covid?

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Speaker 2: Ah, I love Everyone said like covid was the gateway drugs.

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Speaker 4: It was, it was a gateway. So I had done

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mainstream and so I was comfortable on camera and things

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like that. So I was at home painting and I

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this girl had had this beautiful house and she was

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always home, and I was like, So I googled what

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she did for a living and she's it said she

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was a cam model, So I was like, what's that?

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down this rabbit hole of like what camling was. And

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home that night and I was like, Hey, what do

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely So what is it about like that move

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Speaker 4: I'm not no, I'm just kidding. There are days where

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you know, it's definitely a roller coaster. I think once

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being extremely lucrative and changing not only my life but

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my family's life for the foreseeable future and to make

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Speaker 2: So you came in because you know, I mean, there's

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the age old debate about like when is too young

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to come into the porn industry, and there's quite a

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few people that think that eighteen is too young. You

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obviously came in later. Are you happy that you came

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six and I got a call back, and then I

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extra help and guidance, and I wasn't getting that back then.

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older because I now know it is a business. I

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all of that a little more. But I sometimes look

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extra experience and the extra time in and porn's so

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different now, even in five years, it's so different. I

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can't imagine what an extra fifteen or twenty on top

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and nothing compared to like what girls I'm making on

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OnlyFans now, like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, even not even close. And I think having the

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ability of all of the opportunities we have now has

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allowed me to stay on the East coast, yeah, where

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my kids are, versus having to be local in La

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or Vegas or you know, It's given me that power

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to be able to camp from home when I'm when

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I'm not on on studio.

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Speaker 2: So you started off camming, Yes, you're doing scenes now?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 1: How did that transition happen?

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Speaker 4: So? I was probably camming for about eight months and

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I had an agent approached me at one of the

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conventions and was like, I have you ever thought about

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and so I was like, sure, I'll give it a shot.

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So I did my first scene in March of twenty two,

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so almost a full year in.

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Speaker 2: Had you done any work with other performers before then,

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like for camming or girl girl?

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Speaker 4: Just you know, a little girl girl here and there,

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but very light and no and most of my only

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fan stuff was just getting launched. Like I had a

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very very very like I had like two videos like

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nothing crazy. So I shot in March and I absolutely

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hated it. I cried after the scene. I cried the

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whole way home. Was it a bad scene in retrospect?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: So and I worn new performers of this now as

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like I kind of like, you know, the moms of

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the industry, I say, be very careful on what you

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say your limits are and what your jews and don'ts

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are because porn jews and don'ts and porn lingo is

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very different than like bedroom lingo of like just a

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regular regular person.

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Speaker 1: Do you have like any specific examples.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, So, like I went in and I was like,

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they were like, you know, what do you do? What

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do you don't? And I was like, I like it

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rough and porn rough is a very different rough than

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married bedroom ruffy. Yeah, I yah, yeah, I was choked

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and I didn't realize that I need to say you

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can't put your hands like you could put your hands there,

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but no, you know, no restriction. Correct. Yeah, make sure

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that I can breathe, there's no slapping, no sp you know,

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the a lot of things that I incorporate into my

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Jews and don'ts now because of other shoots and because

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of preferences and things, I had no and no guidance

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on it.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys do a boundary checklist on this set? No?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, That's a big thing about that's great about the

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boundary checklist that we do now is that they're very specific.

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Speaker 4: Almost so specific that like there's stuff on some of

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those lists. I'm like, I didn't even think it's like

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I was in the thought of that, but it's on

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there for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because like what if, yeah, someone does it to

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you and you're like, I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I had to say no to that.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, yeah, exactly, Like even like there, like I was

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fish hooked and like I'm okay now with it, but

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it was startling when it's your first time at there.

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And so so I went home and I was crying

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and I was like this isn't for me. I'm like,

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I'm just going to CAM. So I did. I went

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home and I continued to CAM from March until October,

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and then October the agent called me again and he

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was like, I have like five shoots for you in Florida.

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Do you want to come down? So I went. I

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stayed in Miami for I think I was there for

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like two weeks and I shot like five or six

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scenes and it was a whole different experience. I went

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in with a different head, like, you know, a different

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boundary obviously, boundaries. I looked up boundaries, like I googled it,

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like Google has been my best friend during this journey, Like, yeah,

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I googled what boundaries were, what do's and don'ts were.

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I watched porn to see like what I was okay

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with and what it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Did you look up the companies that you were working for?

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Speaker 4: Yes, so they were. They were different too, They weren't

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first time companies. They were in more reputable, like you know,

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more common scenes too. So and then I was just

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more vocal, you know. And the longer I've been in,

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the more vocal I get. I'm like, no, I'm not

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okay with this or yeah, like you know, you get

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it's weird. I always call my boundaries like a like

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a piece of spaghetti, right, Like sometimes they're very, very

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firm and they're very consistent, and then other times they're

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like boiled pasta and it's a little loose and you know,

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it's a little at Dundee, you know, I kind of

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just you know, it moves around a little bit. So

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but yeah, so and then October. I've shot almost every

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month since October of twenty two. Wow. Yeah, so a lot.

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It's been a lot, Like I haven't even added my scene,

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so we're not.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's somebody out there that knows how many scenes.

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I'm sure there is someone keeping track.

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Speaker 4: Somebody knows that number, if.

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Speaker 1: You know, wonderful like autistic fans.

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Speaker 4: We love you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what has been your favorite scene you think that

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you've done so far? Like if there was someone who

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was watching and they're new and they're like, oh this,

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you know, girls hot, like I want to check her out.

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Speaker 1: Like where would you be, like you should go watch

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this scene.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's a tough question. I loved my I was

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a main none of my first feature last year for Elegant,

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which was Breakthrough. Yeah, so we got to really like

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act like and you know, not just go on and

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have sex. So that was probably one of my favorites

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to date. But as far as like having fun on set.

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Let's see, I did Team Skeet with Dee Williams and

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Millie Morgan. That one went really really like. That one

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did really well. That one was incredible. That was just fun,

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you know, like I think those are those are my

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best day or one you forget you're working, yeah, and

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you're like, oh my god, we're done. Okay, So I

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just shot a girl girl scene with my Ramones or

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a Quasar and it hasn't been dropped yet, but it's insane.

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Speaker 2: It's any It's Quasy is like one of my best friends.

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Like I just love being around him and his energy

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and he's amazing.

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Speaker 4: It was on set, it was just incredible. It was

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just a great day. Like her and I had great chemistry.

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So that's a really good one when that one drops.

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Let's see, Millie Morgan and I did Team Skeet one

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and that was a blast because she's a blast. Yea,

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so we did a swap. So yeah, those are a

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couple of my tops.

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Speaker 2: Any like dream scenes that you haven't done, or dream

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performers you haven't worked with yet that you really want to.

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Speaker 4: Probably mostly girls, ironically, there's not that many guys. No

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there's not that thing.

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Speaker 1: It's probably worked with almost.

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Speaker 4: All almost all of them, and if I haven't, they're

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probably coming up. So I mean, I know I've I've

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said it before. Like there's the icons like Kendra and

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and Brandy Love, under Lust, kender Lust. Sorry, yeah, I

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mean that's those are probably my two top right now. Yeah, yeah,

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those are probably like but you know, dream scenes no, like,

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I just like, I love the creativity of it. I

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love when we have a script but we can play

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with it and you know, really make it our own.

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Speaker 1: Do you prefer shooting features like with acting or do

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you prefer shooting gonzo or are they just different?

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Speaker 4: They're just different. They're just different in their own you know.

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The ones with scripts and the features are long days

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and you know there it's a lot of work, but

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it's you know, it's amazing because you get to really show, like, yeah,

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more than just your sexual acts and those. But then

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the gonzo scenes are great because sometimes it's just fun

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to get out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're done quick.

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Speaker 4: You're done quick, and you you know, still have the

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rest of your day yourself exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: You had a pretty significant trademark dispute with Christian Dior

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in your history, so walk me through that. We experienced

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that with Lexus by the way, well really yeah. We

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had this girl who was was Lexus Locklear.

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Speaker 1: She was like back in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: My mom shot her a ton and we started our

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websites Who's done, and then yeah, Lexus came after us

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and we were like, wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's that's yeah. I did virtual expis the

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very first year I was in the business.

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that.

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Speaker 4: We were still virtual Yeah. Yeah, so I did breakout

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groups and one of the seminars we sat through was

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to trademark your name, especially when you're in and you're

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a newer, because as you grow, people can you know,

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steal your name and all that. So that was one

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of the first things we did after we came up

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with the stage name. We trademarked it and successfully, Like

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I got the you know, the go ahead, and shortly

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after that, I got a letter in the mail from

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Christian do yor Or and their conglomerate and said that

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they were fighting me on the trademark due to disillusion

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a brand and they were going to fight me. So

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that was a three year battle.

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Speaker 1: Wow, three years, so you you didn't fold.

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Speaker 4: I did not fold. You were like, no, bitch, nope,

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you're gonna have to like, no, you're not. I'm not folding.

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Speaker 1: So how did you end up?

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Speaker 2: I Mean, the thing is is like with trademarks, it's

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like it's all about the area that you work in, right,

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Like you because my name is trademarked, right, It's like

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I'm trademarked, but like in these specific correct areas like

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I can't Tolie Randall isn't trademarked for like cooking, right,

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or like cultinary products. Don't start a fucking snow named

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after me. But I'm just saying like it would be

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hard for me to go after someone.

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Speaker 1: Right for that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And everybody that I spoke to said that they

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didn't feel that they had a leg to stand on

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because I was trademarking it under acting and entertainment and

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it had nothing to do with clothing or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: You've legally changed your name to Gigi.

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Speaker 4: Door and in the process of it, yes.

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Speaker 1: And what made you decide to make that permanent and official?

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Speaker 4: Because it's my identity now? It truly is. With social

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media being verified on all these sites and everything, it's

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become a little more difficult to have two names. I

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kind of feel like it's just me at this point,

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like not just on set anymore, Like people are at

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home and everything, like my friends, everybody knows me as

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GG now, So yeah, I think it just makes sense.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're not the first person to do that.

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Speaker 2: Tera Patrick also legally changed her name, did she Yeah,

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her name was not originally Taro Patrick, but it is.

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Speaker 4: Now because like even on Instagram, for me to like

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change anything, you have to show your real ID and

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all of that. And that's why so many performers. I mean,

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my legal name's out there, but I just feel like

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it's a little bit more protection.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you don't necessarily want to advertise it, right

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because unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: We do have stalkers, Yes we do. Do you have

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people that.

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Speaker 4: Are ill intended?

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly exactly. In fact, you're currently dealing with a

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stalker who hacked your personal and financial information. Yes. How

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did you find that out? And how did you manage it?

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Speaker 4: Well? I'm still managing it. Most stressful couple of weeks

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of my life. I woke up Friday Friday morning and

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I was looking at my emails and I had all

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of these emails at like one am, two am of

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like username accessed, username, password changed, and it was like

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all of my credit cards, all of my bank accounts.

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So I asked my significant other. I was like, you know,

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he was like I was asleep, Like no, So I

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jumped on and I couldn't access anything, like everything was

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locked down. So I got on the phone and I

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had to verify myself four separate times in one phone

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call to change everything back to my name, my address,

475
00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:52,279
my email, my phone number because they hacker I changed everything.

476
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,720
So as I'm on the phone with the credit card

477
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,039
companies changing everything back to my information, and they're not

478
00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:04,400
only changing it back because they have online access, but

479
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,799
they're calling me and sending me text messages saying, like

480
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,920
the one text message I got said Stephanie akagg d

481
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,680
or we're not here to hurt you, We're here to

482
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,000
help you. So it's absolutely directed, like this was not

483
00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:24,759
just a coincidence, like they knew, they know, they know

484
00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:29,400
what's happening, right, like they know. So I got before

485
00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:32,559
I came here, I got a credit card alert that

486
00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:36,039
they're trying to use it again. So I don't know

487
00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:38,640
how else to lot. I mean, I've locked my credit down.

488
00:23:38,759 --> 00:23:43,039
I have locked everything down. I I don't know in

489
00:23:43,079 --> 00:23:47,279
the credit card company has been no help, like no help.

490
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,799
After I changed everything we passed or protected the account everything,

491
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,960
they called up and pretended to be me and they

492
00:23:54,079 --> 00:23:56,680
just changed everything back. And the credit card company told

493
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:56,960
me this.

494
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,599
Speaker 1: I was like, you have two factor of indication on

495
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,119
everything I.

496
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 4: Do, but they change the phone number on the on

497
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,400
the because they have online access, they were changing the

498
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,200
phone number to their phone number, so they were getting

499
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,799
the two factor authentication. Oh my god. So I've cried,

500
00:24:13,079 --> 00:24:17,759
I've screamed, I've had to laugh because sometimes you just

501
00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:20,319
have nothing else for us to do, but like just

502
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,039
find some silver lining in it and like all of

503
00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:28,599
this over. Like the credit card is strictly the one

504
00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:30,799
that I used to travel, and it's usually I only

505
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,720
use it to get like a rental car or like,

506
00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:35,599
it's not a high dollar credit card. So I'm like,

507
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,799
where are you going with this? But then they opened

508
00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:41,640
a bank account, they opened four other credit cards, so yeah,

509
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,599
so now I'm in the process of fighting all of

510
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,359
that with the credit bureaus so that that it doesn't

511
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,599
show up on my credit reports. So yeah, it's been.

512
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: You hear stories like this, and they're so scary.

513
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,039
Speaker 4: So scary, so scary. I thought maybe it was just

514
00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:57,759
a credit card, but then once I found they were

515
00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:00,599
trying to open cell phones and all this my aim

516
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,039
and I'm like, oh god, so it's been it's been

517
00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:04,640
a roller coaster.

518
00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: Can you use get one of those like credit monitoring companies?

519
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 4: I did. I got it, but apparently they had tried

520
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,720
to open so much that they only work after you

521
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,359
purchase it, so they can't go backwards and protect you

522
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,079
from stuff. So my recommendation is if you're worried about it,

523
00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:27,640
just go get it, Just pay the subscription, lock everything down,

524
00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,319
like I'm I'm locking all of my kids stuff down,

525
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,920
Like wow, I don't want any open anywhere.

526
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,039
Speaker 2: Was it like LifeLock or something I bought LifeLock, Yeah,

527
00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:37,599
that's what I'm.

528
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: They just sponsored my podcast. This is a.

529
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,079
Speaker 4: Great a great plug LifeLock. Thank you. Yes. So they

530
00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:47,599
said if anything happens moving forward that I'm insured on it.

531
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,440
But everything appears that they had done prior to me

532
00:25:50,519 --> 00:25:54,000
opening it. So and I opened. All this happened on Friday.

533
00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:57,880
I got LifeLock on Saturday, and they had done that

534
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,359
much damage in twenty four and today's third day.

535
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,799
Speaker 1: Today, it's been less than a week.

536
00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 4: It's been less than a week.

537
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:03,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

538
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been less than a week.

539
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's insane. Yeah, let's just talk about

540
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,680
all the scary shit. We'll get to porn. At some point.

541
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: Your significant other was drugged in an industry event, and

542
00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:15,359
it sounds like the drug was the drink was actually

543
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:15,799
meant for you.

544
00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:18,279
Speaker 1: Yes, So what happened there?

545
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,599
Speaker 4: So we'd gotten a drink, We had gotten drinks, and

546
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,039
I was pulled away for photos and so I hate

547
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,799
having an alcoholic beverage in my hand in photographs, especially

548
00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:33,359
professional ones. So he took my drink and was speaking

549
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:38,440
with somebody and I came back and he was gone,

550
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,119
and so I'm calling him and he's not answering, and

551
00:26:43,519 --> 00:26:45,519
so he was like, I'm outside, and I'm like, so

552
00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:47,440
I go. There was like an outside patio. I go

553
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:50,759
out there and he's not out there, and I'm like,

554
00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:53,880
where are So I call him again, And we had

555
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,400
a credit card tab open at the bar, so I

556
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,599
walked up, I closed that out and I call him again.

557
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,240
He's like, I'm outside. So I walked out outside. So

558
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:04,119
what happened, is I guess the drink had hit him

559
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,880
and or the drug had hit him, and he fell asleep,

560
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,039
like like sitting up, And so he was escorted out,

561
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:15,880
and so he was sitting outside waiting, and so I

562
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,359
got out there and he like, I've seen I've seen

563
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,599
him drunk, I've seen him tired. I've seen him drunk

564
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,720
and tired, but I've never seen him like this before

565
00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:28,960
in my entire life. I had to literally walk barefoot,

566
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,680
I take my heels off, and I had to like

567
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,680
fireman like carry him all the way back to our hotel,

568
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,799
and he like got sick and all of this. So

569
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,160
we're pretty sure that was the case. Yeah, Now fast forward.

570
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,480
I was at an event recently whom I thought was

571
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:53,240
the culprit of like I had narrowed it down. I

572
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:56,480
had spoken to a friend and after the event we

573
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,839
were at and she was like I had told her

574
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,079
that whole story. I remember how it came up. And

575
00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:02,920
she's like, oh my god, She's like, I saw that

576
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,160
person biting something like a pill and putting it in

577
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,440
someone's drink last night when we were out. It was

578
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,680
almost like validation right that. It was like, Okay, I'm

579
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,160
not crazy like this, what this actually did happen? And

580
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,000
I think either they tried to drug both drinks or

581
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,400
tried to drug my drink and then separate, like I

582
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,160
think that's why maybe I was pulled away for photos

583
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,079
or something to separate us. And but he must have

584
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,160
just mixed up the drinks in the hands or whatever.

585
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:32,200
So yeah, it was. It was a actually a very humbling,

586
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:32,960
very humbling.

587
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:37,279
Speaker 2: So are you now thinking like you almost don't want

588
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:38,000
to take a drink.

589
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:41,519
Speaker 4: I don't drink at industry events. I don't if it

590
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:43,920
doesn't come with bottled water with a cap and I

591
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:46,200
have it in my hand the entire time, then I'll

592
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,640
go dry the entire I'm sober now anyway, But I yeah,

593
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,759
I'm just drinking bottled water at events because it's just

594
00:28:54,519 --> 00:28:55,279
it's not worth it.

595
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,759
Speaker 1: I had it, you know. It's so funny.

596
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: A really long time ago, I had a weird situation

597
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,359
with a model who came on set and we were

598
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,920
doing a live show. This is like twenty years ago,

599
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:09,599
and my assistant at the time was working with me,

600
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,319
and I still work with him on stuff, and I've

601
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:14,559
known him forever and he's a very trustworthy person and

602
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:18,480
she suddenly in the middle of the show got like wasted,

603
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,400
like something happened like a fish, and I was like,

604
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,839
what the hell, and so we stopped the show, and

605
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,759
her boyfriend accused me, well not me, because he knew

606
00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:30,680
I wouldn't do it, but he accused my assistant of

607
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:33,440
drugging her. And I was like, there's no way my

608
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,599
assistant would ever do that. And I still stand by

609
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:38,119
that because, like I said, like, he's still in the industry.

610
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,200
You've probably worked with him on some sets. He's like,

611
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:44,400
he's not that person, but ever, and I think, honestly,

612
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,960
what happened was she'd a drug problem or a drinking problem,

613
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,119
because I know that when I was drinking, this would

614
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:51,400
happen to me. I'd be sneaking drinks on the side

615
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,759
and then I would take too much and it would

616
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:55,319
hit me in the middle and I'd black out in

617
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:57,279
the middle of something and suddenly I would.

618
00:29:57,119 --> 00:29:59,559
Speaker 4: Change so eating or yah.

619
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:02,559
Speaker 1: I know that, like that's happened to me, and probably

620
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:03,480
she wouldn't admit.

621
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: To her boyfriend that she had this problem, and so

622
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:08,720
he automatically like accused us, like whatever anyways.

623
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,839
Speaker 4: And what would be the purpose of during that drugging,

624
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,119
like you know, it's not there would be no outcome

625
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,680
of that. You know, why would wondering a lot? But

626
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,160
that's what, Yeah, that's that's my point. Like that doesn't

627
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,240
make there's like.

628
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: A sinister person who wanted to try to, like you know,

629
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,559
take advantage of somebody, but like I'm not. And also

630
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:31,400
it was her and another girl. It was just like

631
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,480
anyways whatever. But honestly, ever since then, I now like

632
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:38,119
when I'm on set, I don't open if somebody wants

633
00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:40,359
to drink, I don't open it. I open it in

634
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:41,880
front of them, like I don't know if you noticed

635
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,359
what with your bottle of water And this is just

636
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,079
automatic now. I brought it over to you, sealed and

637
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,440
like let you pour it. Like I just it's just

638
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,640
like an automatic thing now because if something crazy ever

639
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,359
does happen, like you can't get it.

640
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,319
Speaker 4: But you know, we're in We're in a world. Brother,

641
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:03,559
that's got to be the key. Like it's it's it's

642
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:07,519
sad and I wish it was different, but unfortunately it's not.

643
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:10,319
And you have to protect yourself because at the end

644
00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:11,640
of the day, nobody else will do it for you.

645
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,799
Speaker 2: I'm of the mind of like remove all possibilities on

646
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,240
where you could potentially be put in a compromising position.

647
00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you have to eliminate those.

648
00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:25,599
Speaker 4: And this is work. So why am I drinking at work?

649
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,119
Speaker 1: Yeah?

650
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:28,519
Speaker 4: Like so that's how I look at it now. It's

651
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:30,480
like if I'm going to an industry event or something

652
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,119
like that, Like it's it's this is my job. You

653
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,720
wouldn't like if you were a doctor, you wouldn't drink

654
00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:39,160
before you went into surgery, right, So hope, I mean

655
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:44,039
we all know probably that, but but that's my point is, like,

656
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:44,799
this is my job.

657
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,559
Speaker 5: So I want to be of sound mind. Yeah, absolutely

658
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:51,799
at all times. So Okay, So you went to King

659
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,680
Kun for an ayahuasca retreat. Yes, So for people don't

660
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,519
who don't know what that experience is, like, can you explain,

661
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:00,319
like what ayahuasca is, what happens, and why you sought

662
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:00,599
it out.

663
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,599
Speaker 4: We'll start with why I sought it out. So I

664
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,119
sought it out because of past traumas. I've had more

665
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,359
therapists than I think I have underwear. So my significant

666
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,240
other knew I was struggling with a couple of like

667
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:18,920
heavy traumas, and no matter the talk therapy I was doing,

668
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,680
and everything else. I was just like I was stuck.

669
00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:25,279
I felt like I was stuck. And so he did

670
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:28,279
some research and found that ayahuasca is equivalent to ten

671
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:29,200
years of talk therapy.

672
00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: So about efficiency. We melts were all about it.

673
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,599
Speaker 4: Fre we are I'm like, give me, give me three

674
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,519
days instead of ten years. I am all about it.

675
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,960
So I did some research and last year I was

676
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,880
ready after feeling like I was repeating the same cycles

677
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,920
over and over and over again and feeling like I

678
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,640
was just treading water. So I found this place in

679
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,720
Cancun and it was called the Hacienda, and absolutely like

680
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,279
I can't wait to go back. It was in Cancuon,

681
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,119
but not the Cancuon that like everyone thinks. It's not

682
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,240
resort Cancuon. It's like Mexico, Mexico.

683
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:08,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

684
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:12,799
Speaker 4: There was monkeys swinging between the trees and hammocks out

685
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:16,200
in the patio, and there was this big temple outdoors

686
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,759
that we got to sit in and meditate like in between,

687
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:20,440
and that's where a lot of the ceremonies were held.

688
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,240
So ayahuasca is how do I describe it? Uh, it's

689
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,680
a trip, right, like it's a And so going back

690
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,359
a little bit. They sent us a list of requirements,

691
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:35,880
so you have to be off of certain medications prior.

692
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,920
So I got off of all my antiata pressants, all

693
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,240
my medication about three weeks prior. You couldn't eat certain

694
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:45,160
things a certain time because the way it metabolizes in

695
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,559
your body, and because you throw up a lot.

696
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,319
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, people like, don't they people throw

697
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:50,680
up a lot?

698
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: And I threw up. We were I didn't have anybody. No,

699
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,960
I mean we had a very small group nobody, but yes,

700
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,960
I've heard people have shipped themselves. I threw up. We

701
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,599
were there five days. I threw up every day. I've

702
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,039
never been so happy. I kind of equate. I kind

703
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,799
of equate iauasca to this. After you got a child,

704
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,079
Like when you're pregnant, you're like, okay, I'm pregnant. You

705
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:13,280
go through childbirth, it's awful, it's terrible. You're like, oh

706
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,480
my god, why did I do this? Then you hold

707
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,199
this sweet little baby and in like ten minutes, you

708
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,199
forget about everything that you just did and you're like, okay,

709
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,360
I could do this again. And then you're pregnant before

710
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,039
you know it. So that that's my like, that's my

711
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:28,800
correlation to ayahuasca, because I was like, this is hell

712
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,519
while I'm doing it, I don't know. So we got there,

713
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,639
we did a fast, We did like our last like

714
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,039
real meal with like fish and vegetables and stuff, and

715
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,920
then we did cambo the first morning, which is frog poison.

716
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,840
So they did little I kind of like say it

717
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,360
like cigarette burns. They did it in my lower back.

718
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:49,639
The two other gentlemen there, they did their on their

719
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,960
shoulder and they burn it like a superficial burn, and

720
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,320
then they put the frog poison into those burns. So

721
00:34:56,599 --> 00:34:58,719
all of a sudden, you get this like warmth that

722
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:04,480
comes over you and you just start swing up. I'm

723
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,599
pretty sure I threw up the devil because I just yeah, yeah,

724
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:12,880
and then I looked like hitch because my lips swelled.

725
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,440
Not a pretty site. There were no cameras anywhere. I

726
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,320
would never take cameras there anyway.

727
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,679
Speaker 1: I feel like they probably have like a no cell

728
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:21,360
phone policy.

729
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: They have Wi Fi for emergencies, but they recommend because

730
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,000
of the process, like no like that you're snapchatting.

731
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: Nobody's snapchat.

732
00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 4: Yeah No, nobody's tiktoking while we're there, Like I would

733
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,199
listen to it. To like meditate and stuff. I would

734
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:39,000
listen to like my iTunes and stuff. But other than that,

735
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:42,199
it was actually a really nice purge from my phone.

736
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,039
So the cambo like after the swelling and everything came down.

737
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:49,199
That was the first day. Then the second day.

738
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: Did you trip it all the first day or just

739
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,280
throw it?

740
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,599
Speaker 4: Well, just threw up, But they did what was called

741
00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:59,920
uh repe It's like a tobacco and they put it

742
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:02,280
in this long tobacco pipe and they put it in

743
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,920
your nostrils and then they blow it and then like

744
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,519
the first time you do it, you're like, oh my god,

745
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:08,440
this is so So you get like tobacco leaf like

746
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,880
in your nose and it burns a little bit. You're

747
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,159
I know, wait it gets better.

748
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:18,199
Speaker 1: There's more.

749
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,079
Speaker 4: There's three more days of throwing up. So the repe

750
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:25,880
actually it cleans, It clears your penal gland and helps

751
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:34,280
like re regenerate. Uh you're vegas nerve. So the repe

752
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,239
was kind of like a like a high, but not really.

753
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,920
It was kind of like a like a xanax feeling

754
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,920
kind of like just a chilly. So then after that

755
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,559
the ridge did the repee. Then we did it was

756
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:49,000
like a hot igloo it's really what it was, right,

757
00:36:49,519 --> 00:36:52,719
we did the repe kind of there's a name for it.

758
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,719
I'm blanking on it right now, it'll come to me.

759
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,519
But you get in and it's a circle and a

760
00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:00,519
hole in the ground and there's like there was like

761
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:07,280
eight of us in it, and every everyone you just right,

762
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,920
that's right, exactly exactly. No, you just sweat, and you

763
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,079
just sweat. It's like the hottest suna you've ever been

764
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:14,840
in your life. And when you think like you can't

765
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,719
sweat anymore, you like sweat more. So we did that,

766
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:21,360
and then there was uh so there was camp both

767
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,119
and there was the repae. Then there was the ayahuasca.

768
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,840
So that was we purged all day or we fasted

769
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,079
all day. For the evening, we took ayahuasca around six pm. No,

770
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,880
I'm sorry, we started getting ready for about six pm.

771
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,119
Ten pm. We took the ayahuasca. But because of my

772
00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:43,199
reaction to the cambo, the shaman gave me a half

773
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:44,960
a dose of what he gave the other two people.

774
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,920
And I was like sitting there and all of a sudden,

775
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,480
like everyone else is like laying down and I can

776
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:55,119
see like them starting to like you know, fly high,

777
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,320
right and I'm like, what is not? Like, what's not

778
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:00,239
it's not working? I'm like, maybe I need more. All

779
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,880
of a sudden, I get sick and then it it

780
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:07,760
like takes me my hand, like people don't believe you

781
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,480
when you say it, but my hand all of a

782
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:12,920
sudden like comes up and my fingers go like this,

783
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:15,639
and my hand just takes itself and it goes like this,

784
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,880
and Holly, I was off like it was like a

785
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,719
magic Harper ride, unlike anything I've ever experienced. I was

786
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,039
inside my mom's womb. I remember like the fluid and

787
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:32,360
the water and like seeing my hands and then seeing

788
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,960
like the birth. I remember being in my playpen when

789
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,920
I was probably like a year or two, reaching up

790
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,280
for my mom, and my mom was very young when

791
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,800
she had me and her just walking by, and I

792
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,119
remember like crying out for her and like putting my

793
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:48,559
hands up and her walking by.

794
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:49,559
Speaker 1: And then.

795
00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 4: I was a belly dancer in Egypt. In a past life,

796
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,000
I had a piece of paper because I wanted to

797
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,920
make sure that when I came to I could write

798
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,079
all these down so that I could remember them, so

799
00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:04,199
I didn't forget anything. So I must have realized remembered

800
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,880
so my I'm right handed, my left hand takes this

801
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,079
pen and starts writing in all this other language on

802
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:11,960
this paper. And I woke up the next day and

803
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,639
it was like a signature. It was the same signature

804
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,360
or autograph over and over and over and over again.

805
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,360
The craziest was the alien though. So I'm looking into

806
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,519
the we're in the middle of like the forest or jungle,

807
00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:32,679
and I see this little red light like in a distance,

808
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,480
and there's no lights, like we barely had electricity there.

809
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:39,639
So my hand again takes me and we are off.

810
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,239
Like so I go to the red light and I

811
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,880
was on an alien ship and I was giving birth

812
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:52,760
and I remember being on a cold metal table and girl, ah, yeah,

813
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,960
it was absolutely intense, intense. But through all of that,

814
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:00,960
through like the me and the playpat and all of that,

815
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:04,519
it brought me so much peace and healing. Like I

816
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:06,760
saw that my mom was really young, and like I've

817
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,639
forgiven her for a lot of the things that I

818
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:12,440
had to work through, and it just shows me that

819
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:17,400
like this isn't it, Like they We're just here now,

820
00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:20,760
right and we can come back in any time and

821
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,400
any form, in any shape and just enjoy the ride

822
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,840
while you're here, embrace it.

823
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: That's got to be so comforting because I know that,

824
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,880
like the one, I'm not religious at all, and like

825
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,360
I was raised atheist. Actually my dad okay, it was

826
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,039
super anti God. And when he died that was really

827
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:43,400
hard for me because I was like, well, he's just gone, yeah,

828
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,559
and that's it, like that, like he just poofed, non existent.

829
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,480
And that was the first time that I felt like

830
00:40:48,559 --> 00:40:50,519
jealous of people who had like a kind of faith

831
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,199
and who believed in like heaven and believed in like

832
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,039
reuniting with their loved ones. Yes, that must be like

833
00:40:56,079 --> 00:41:01,360
a really comforting thought to have, and that father's just gone, yeah, whatever.

834
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 4: It was very comforting. So the other person I went with,

835
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,800
he saw his past cousin and she was very young

836
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,079
when she passed, and he was asking her questions and

837
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,079
other people like his grandparents she had said had gone

838
00:41:18,119 --> 00:41:22,480
down and gotten you know, new new bodies or however

839
00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:27,559
you want to say it. So it was very so

840
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:30,239
the other thing that I saw, which is really cool

841
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,960
because we've always believed. So the person I'm with, we

842
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,679
had a vision. We were we both did uh marijuana

843
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,760
in Vegas several years ago, and we both had a

844
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,719
vision of like that we had known each other in

845
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,320
a past life, and so we both took our phones

846
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,159
and like wrote down in our phones like what we

847
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,199
each saw like during that and it was identical. It

848
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,079
was identical. But I saw it during my Ayawaska trip

849
00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:55,519
and so did he.

850
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: So we've you guys been together.

851
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so we we definitely have met in a

852
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:05,840
past life. And so that's calming too, that like I

853
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,079
have a possibility of meeting people that I truly connect with, Yeah,

854
00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:14,039
of meeting them and finding them again. So that's really incredible.

855
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:15,960
It's really incredible, I have to say.

856
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: So I had I don't know if you know who

857
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,480
Vanessa Verrakruz is.

858
00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 4: The name sounds familiar.

859
00:42:19,639 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: She did now does a lot of work for ALU.

860
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,039
Speaker 2: She does like like a talent liaison and stuff like that.

861
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:29,239
But anyways, she actually came on the podcast and if

862
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,760
you haven't seen the episode, you should go back and

863
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,119
watch it. It's one of the most powerful episodes I've

864
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:37,920
ever done. And she did ayahuasca and she had this,

865
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:41,719
you know, horrible tragedy. Basically when she was young, her

866
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,599
father shot her mother in front of her when she

867
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,119
was a kid and then killed himself. And she did

868
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:51,440
ayahuasca and because obviously that's an incredibly traumatic experience that

869
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,480
you would carry with you forever, right, And she did

870
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:56,480
ayahuasca and she said that she like saw her dad

871
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:58,800
again and like saw her mom again, and it enabled

872
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,559
her to forgive her father. Yeah, like her mother like

873
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:04,840
told her to forgive her father and enabled her to

874
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,920
like move on.

875
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: And I remember she was just telling me. I was

876
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,360
like crying.

877
00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: I was just like, I mean, so, it's something that

878
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,920
I've always like thought about, just because I've heard some

879
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:20,360
incredible experiences from people who've done it.

880
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: But I don't.

881
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: I'm sober and I have like I'll have eight years

882
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,719
of sobriety in like a couple of months.

883
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 4: Congratulations, thank you.

884
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:29,679
Speaker 1: So I'm like terrified of taking any kind of.

885
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:33,199
Speaker 2: Mind altering drug, just like I'm afraid that I'll be like, oh,

886
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:35,320
I forget how fun this was, and then it'll just

887
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,400
like trigger me. But I also, like, honestly, admittedly, I

888
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,360
don't really have like a lot of trauma that I

889
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,440
have to deal with. I'm so fortunate in that way,

890
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,360
So I feel like it's not something that like I

891
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,440
absolutely need to do.

892
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,119
Speaker 1: But like we all have issues.

893
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 4: Right absolutely, it might give you answers, yeah, you know,

894
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,239
and it may not heal maybe not healing or like

895
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,960
traumatic reasons for you, but it might give you answers

896
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:04,440
or hope or direction on which you know, maybe like it.

897
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:08,719
Because after ayahuasca, like after we came to I slept

898
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,679
like most of the next day because it was so

899
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,079
like it was six hours, six seven hours that we

900
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:15,760
were I call it like my journey, right that we

901
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,199
were gone, and then so we kind of like chilled

902
00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:20,239
the next day and then the last day we did DMT.

903
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:24,840
And now I'm sober too. So I know it kind

904
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,079
of sounds hypocritical, like you're doing this but and you're sober,

905
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,440
But it feel like I would do it again, even sober,

906
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,000
just because it has done so much for my soul

907
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,920
and for me as a human, Like I just I

908
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,079
have more empathy for people I see. I see it

909
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:46,800
fake smiles, and I like, I get it because I

910
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,360
understand that we're all hiding. We're all like hiding behind

911
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,519
these masks that we put up and everybody's I said

912
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:56,519
the other day, where we all live in the prisons

913
00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:59,559
that we'd create, right like, and so it's really helped

914
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:02,320
free me of that and just saying like and be

915
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:04,960
firm and who I am, and saying like, Okay, the

916
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,719
people that want to be in my life are going

917
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,199
to be here, and the people who don't maybe they

918
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,000
have a purpose for a short period of time or

919
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:16,400
what they're here for is important, but they may be

920
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:18,440
here for a short period of time. You know, they

921
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:20,280
might be a chapter in my book and maybe not

922
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,079
the whole book. Right, And that's what really brought me

923
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:28,119
so much, just peace and comforting because I've had massive

924
00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:31,679
abandonment issues, massive abandoned issues, and I thought, you know,

925
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,239
I had to either cling to people or keep them

926
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,800
at arm's length because I didn't, like I wanted to

927
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,400
leave first, right like I didn't want anybody to hurt me.

928
00:45:39,639 --> 00:45:42,039
So this has given me that ability to truly love

929
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:44,280
from like my visceral core.

930
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: I mean that makes sense because you know, I mean,

931
00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:49,239
look like we all when we do like drugs and

932
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,960
alcohol and like the recreational sense, and especially once become

933
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,679
we become like dependent on it, become like addicts, it's

934
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,559
because we're trying to.

935
00:45:56,559 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: Escape our reality.

936
00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely, like we don't want to be in the present

937
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,079
when it want to be in our body. We don't

938
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:04,000
want to like face the things that we want to forget,

939
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:06,320
And it sounds like the experience that you had.

940
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: Is the opposite.

941
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 4: Correct.

942
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,559
Speaker 2: It's literally like you're facing all of these things that

943
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:16,400
you've buried and you're kind of letting the damn loose,

944
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,239
Like you're breaking down all those walls that we have

945
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,760
built up over all the years to keep like things,

946
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:24,400
you know, compartmentalize in our minds so that we can

947
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,519
basically like deal with every day and not face the

948
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:28,760
things that hurt us so much.

949
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 4: Absolutely, because I would disassociate a lot. Yeah, and I

950
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,960
probably still do to an extent, just as like a

951
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,159
coping mechanism, but it's definitely less. I'm definitely more present

952
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,599
in all of my in my daily life.

953
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: The thing is, is what I try to always remind

954
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,400
myself is that you know, life is not a movie

955
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,800
where at the end, you you know, reach your apex

956
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,679
and you reach some kind of realization and then like

957
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,639
everything's perfect from there on out and you are never,

958
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,159
you know, haunted by these issues.

959
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:03,199
Speaker 1: You dealt with in the movie. Like it's just like

960
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:04,199
there's never like.

961
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 2: A happy ending where it's just like that part of

962
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,800
my life is over and now everything's fine, Like that,

963
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,159
doesn't it exist that way?

964
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:10,519
Speaker 1: Yeah?

965
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 4: And I actually even just on the other day, I

966
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,599
was on my way here, I had like a memory

967
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:19,519
come up that I had definitely like repressed and it

968
00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:22,320
came through me. I thought about it, like I really

969
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,679
like processed it and then I let it go, and

970
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,800
that this process has definitely allowed me to learn how

971
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,599
to do that more effectively anyway.

972
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, so funny.

973
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,119
Speaker 2: I mean, I love these kinds of interviews because I'm

974
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:38,320
all about like getting to know the person, the fact

975
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,360
that you sometimes the fact that, like we work in

976
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,440
the adult industry is adjacent to what we do.

977
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: With Like all of my questions are not about porn,

978
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,239
sorry guys. They're like they're about like your you to

979
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,519
bribe your way out of Egypt?

980
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 4: Yes, oh my god. And it wasn't in this life.

981
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't when you were a belly answer, and it.

982
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 4: Was in this life. So we did like a europe tour,

983
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:09,639
not the kind of tour, but like like we did Paris, London, Budapest, Prague, Egypt,

984
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:16,119
and Egypt was amazing a little scary. But as we

985
00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:19,159
were leaving Egypt, well all around Egypt. Like we had

986
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:22,239
a tour guide and everywhere we went he was like

987
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:23,920
paying people.

988
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:26,559
Speaker 2: Like while we got there, I was gonna say, like

989
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:29,039
I've heard that if you visit Egypt you need somebody

990
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:30,800
who's there to like you can't just.

991
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,119
Speaker 4: Like if I did do it again, I'd probably go

992
00:48:33,199 --> 00:48:36,079
through a cruise because then there's like guides and stuff.

993
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:40,519
We just woon it, like we just landed, just the

994
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:43,000
two of us. You know, I was blonde at the time,

995
00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:46,320
so I covered everything. I wore sunglasses, I wore long pants,

996
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,320
long shirt, My ankles showed in one pair and like

997
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,599
I got dirty looks for that. So it was very crazy.

998
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,119
The interesting thing is there are no traffic lights, there

999
00:48:54,159 --> 00:48:57,920
are no signals, there's nothing, so everybody just honks all

1000
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,880
the time. So twenty four hours a day, seven days

1001
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,480
of week in Egypt, it's my map honking. Wow, there

1002
00:49:03,559 --> 00:49:05,920
isn't That's the only sound you hear. Like I think

1003
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,079
we were like seventeen stories in our hotel and you

1004
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:10,199
could still hear the honking all day and all night.

1005
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,400
It was absolutely crazy. So our tour guide was tipping everybody,

1006
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,000
and we just kind of like we're like okay, like

1007
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:18,800
maybe that's their protocol. So we're leaving, we're at the

1008
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,239
airport and they separate the men and the females. So

1009
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,679
there's a female line for security and a male line.

1010
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,840
And I had everything in my purse, like our passports

1011
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,119
and everything, and I had all the cash. So if

1012
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:32,719
you ever go to Egypt, take a lot of singles,

1013
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,119
a lot of singles because they love like, it's great

1014
00:49:36,199 --> 00:49:39,119
money for them, even a dollar bill there. So I

1015
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:42,239
had all the money. So he's in that line. I'm

1016
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:47,000
in this line and they take our passports to the

1017
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:52,559
other side and we're just standing there and the guy's

1018
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:57,239
like I'm looking and I'm like, oh, okay, and he's like,

1019
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,760
we're passports and I was like oh. So I reached

1020
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,880
my person at this point, I had like only larger dollars,

1021
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,000
so I pulled out I think I could ten and

1022
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:10,679
I handed it to him and he smacks my hand

1023
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,760
and he's like, no, not you you. So I had

1024
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,920
to hand the ten dollars bill to the man and

1025
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:19,000
have him hand it because I wasn't allowed to hand

1026
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:25,199
it to him. But finally right, so I so after

1027
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,760
the money was processed, they handed us that and they

1028
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,559
did like the most extensive pat down search on the females.

1029
00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:35,639
And then we were girls there from probably United States

1030
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:37,760
that had like booty shorts on and mid drifts, and

1031
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,920
I'm like, that is insane to me. Like, I'm a

1032
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,239
huge believer in where you go. You need to respect

1033
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,360
the culture, right, Like, I'm not one of those people

1034
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,159
that like expects everybody to speak English everywhere I go, right, Like,

1035
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,400
I cannot speak many other languages or any other languages

1036
00:50:54,679 --> 00:50:58,079
very well, but I will learn key phrases wherever I

1037
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:01,000
am going because I feel like it's just appropriate and

1038
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:03,840
if they happened to speak English, we're better for it.

1039
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:07,280
But so these girls were like walking around in these

1040
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,599
shorts and stuff, and I'm just like you are, like

1041
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,719
you were just broadcasting that you're sticking out like a

1042
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,039
sore thumb. So yeah, so yeah, I had to pay

1043
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:18,559
to get my passport back.

1044
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll keep that in mind.

1045
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:25,639
Speaker 2: Yes, my god, it's wild, crazy, it was wild. You

1046
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,679
also visited a suspected UFO crash site Arizona with a

1047
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:34,800
metal detector. Yes, So are you a believer in aliens?

1048
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,000
I mean yes, are you? Were you before Ajuasca?

1049
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 4: So I believed that there were other entities and other

1050
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,400
beings out there, because I think it's naive to think

1051
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:50,119
that we're all alone in this massive universe universe multi

1052
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,639
universe that we live in. But this definitely sold me.

1053
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,679
So after that, we had planned a like a road

1054
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,880
trip from Arizona up to to La then back down,

1055
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:04,760
and so we got to Kingmen, Arizona, and there was

1056
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,920
a suspected crash site there. So we got our way

1057
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,440
like packed these metal detectors that like broke down into

1058
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:15,159
like suitcases, and we we had like a van or something.

1059
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,960
We were bottoming out on this back road in the

1060
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:21,480
like middle of nowhere, and so we got out and

1061
00:52:21,519 --> 00:52:25,519
there was this massive whole like indentation in the ground

1062
00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:30,519
that went down probably the height of this room or

1063
00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:33,239
deeper and was the size of like a football field

1064
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,079
and clear, and it looked like something you know, like

1065
00:52:38,119 --> 00:52:40,559
when you drop something and it like or if you

1066
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:43,199
drop something in sand, you know how like it ripples out.

1067
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,360
Absolutely looked just like it. So we found some really

1068
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,639
cool rocks and like it was I could have spend

1069
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:53,199
all day there, I was like, but we also didn't

1070
00:52:53,199 --> 00:52:56,800
want to get arrested. So we were on like new

1071
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,440
dress passing territories. So yeah, so it was kind of

1072
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,320
like a oh what car was that? So it was

1073
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,920
a little risky, but it was so much fun, so

1074
00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:04,880
much fun. Yeah.

1075
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 2: I mean I think that they didn't the Pentagon like

1076
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,480
come out last year basically acknowledging that like UFOs exist

1077
00:53:11,639 --> 00:53:15,039
and like unidentified flying what's the new term that they

1078
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:19,000
use for it's a different acronym now, uap UAP Yeah,

1079
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:25,239
unidentified active phenomenon. Okay, right, Yeah, they're just like they're like, yeah,

1080
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,039
there's these things that happen, we just don't know.

1081
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 4: Well, I live on the East Coast and the drones

1082
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,000
were a very real thing last year, like in our

1083
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:35,000
in our yard at night, you could see them flying

1084
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:38,639
all around. It was it was very very real. Like

1085
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,239
I know that everybody's like explaining it out, but they

1086
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,239
were there. They were absolutely there, and they were like

1087
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,000
at one point there was like five surrounding where we

1088
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,079
were at. So it was yeah, so I definitely believe

1089
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,320
in that. Are they green of that nature?

1090
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: You know?

1091
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 4: I don't know how much of that I believe in,

1092
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:01,480
but yeah, and I think they came out. I think

1093
00:54:01,559 --> 00:54:04,360
the full disclosure is coming. It's going to be interesting

1094
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,639
how people react to it.

1095
00:54:05,679 --> 00:54:07,599
Speaker 1: Does it scare you or does it excite you?

1096
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 4: I think a little bit of both. Like, it does

1097
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,880
scare me because why like and why is it taking

1098
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,599
so long for full disclosure to come out? And why

1099
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,840
you know, have I just read something that they're they're

1100
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,519
farming us for our emotions? I read some bit and

1101
00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:26,880
watch some bizarre stuff. Wow, So you know, and and

1102
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,960
being like mindful and patient and you know, very very

1103
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:35,960
uh high on your consciousness. It's the ultimate piece, right,

1104
00:54:36,199 --> 00:54:38,719
So I kind of feel safe in that that I'm

1105
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,239
like very peaceful and my emotions aren't all over the

1106
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,320
map like they used to be, because if you want

1107
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,760
to harness them, you're not going to harness somebody that's here, right,

1108
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,320
You want somebody that's more erratic. So okay, there's a

1109
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,079
little piece in that. So okay, I have no idea

1110
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:52,760
if it's true or not.

1111
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: So like good mental stability will protect you from the aliens.

1112
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, yeah, Okay, that's that's Gigi's theory.

1113
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna go over that all right, last question,

1114
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:06,119
and I'm gonna I'm gonna circle back to the adult

1115
00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:10,119
industry just a little bit on this one. What advice

1116
00:55:10,159 --> 00:55:13,480
would you give to somebody who's looking to get into

1117
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:16,599
the industry, And I'm thinking maybe more along the lines

1118
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:19,159
of somebody who's more our age as opposed to like

1119
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,880
a young girl looking to get because the milk is

1120
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,320
like a very kind of specific genre. Yeah, and I

1121
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,280
know that there's definitely women who, like you know, they've

1122
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,480
had their kids, they've had their life, like whatever, their

1123
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:33,280
circumstances have changed, had a divorce, and they're like, this

1124
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,679
is something I've always wanted to explore.

1125
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:36,679
Speaker 1: Is too late for me?

1126
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 4: Absolutely not. It's never too late. I think we're at

1127
00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:44,239
our sexual peak at this age. I'm more confident than

1128
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,519
I've ever been in my entire life. I know what

1129
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:48,480
I want, I know how to get what I want.

1130
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,480
And my advice to anybody who wants to come in

1131
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:54,159
at this age is treat it like a business, because

1132
00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:56,039
it is. If you treat it like a business, you'll

1133
00:55:56,039 --> 00:55:58,679
be successful. I've seen a lot of other mills recently

1134
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,159
say like it like a business because it is right.

1135
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:06,559
If you're in it for just the sex, then you're

1136
00:56:06,599 --> 00:56:09,559
in it for the wrong reasons, or own just that

1137
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,039
and know that you're in it for that, so know

1138
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:15,239
the reason you're getting in, right is it? Are you

1139
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,519
getting in for the sex, Are you getting in for

1140
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:19,960
the business? Are you getting in for the accolades?

1141
00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:20,079
Speaker 3: Like?

1142
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,679
Speaker 4: What's your goal? Like, have a really set goal, set

1143
00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:26,679
a five year plan to know what you like, what

1144
00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:30,440
you want to obtain and reach for in those five years,

1145
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:35,119
and then just get to work, like perfect your look.

1146
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,639
You know, ask people that are going to be honest

1147
00:56:38,679 --> 00:56:40,079
with you. You know if you need to change your

1148
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:42,400
hair color, or if you know you need to work

1149
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,639
in your eyebrows, or you know if you need to

1150
00:56:44,679 --> 00:56:46,760
gain weight or lose weight. I lost a feel a

1151
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,199
lot of time in the beginning because from my surgery

1152
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:52,599
I was so thin. I feel like as I've gotten

1153
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:57,599
thicker and heavier, my career has gotten better because I'm

1154
00:56:57,639 --> 00:57:00,719
not so I'm not so thin looking. So for me,

1155
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,119
I wish I had put weight on earlier than I did.

1156
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:08,159
So just like and know what you want out of it,

1157
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:13,079
right like, and then set boundaries, stick with those boundaries.

1158
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,000
Have somebody that is out there that you can utilize

1159
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:20,480
as like a boundary keeper, as kind of like a checkmate,

1160
00:57:20,679 --> 00:57:23,880
like a okay, are you really holding to this? And

1161
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:29,039
I think last would be don't give it all away

1162
00:57:29,159 --> 00:57:34,159
for free right up front. Like, I've been very strategic

1163
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:37,440
in what I've shot and when I've shot it. I

1164
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,199
didn't shoot ANAL until I was in for three three

1165
00:57:41,239 --> 00:57:42,000
and a half years sports.

1166
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, like, don't do ANAL right

1167
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:44,280
out there?

1168
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 4: You ANAL right away. I'm shooting my first DP tomorrow.

1169
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: Can you say that is for? Is that still a secret?

1170
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:53,039
Speaker 3: Oh?

1171
00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:55,519
Speaker 4: I can say it. I'm shooting for Elegant Angel tomorrow

1172
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:56,760
for my first DP.

1173
00:57:57,039 --> 00:57:58,679
Speaker 1: So do you know the talent that you're working.

1174
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 4: With Vince Carter and Christian Clay.

1175
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: Ah, okay, I went with Christian Clay, like forever ago

1176
00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:05,159
in Budapest.

1177
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: I've heard there. Well, I've worked with Vance, I haven't

1178
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,920
worked with Christian. It's very big, so that as I've

1179
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,880
been told, it's a lot of dick. It's a lot

1180
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,679
of dick. So I want to be very full tomorrow.

1181
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,239
But I've waited and like we've spoke with my agents

1182
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,320
and with Elegant and there's like a little bit of

1183
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,519
a roll out with it. So I'm not giving it

1184
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:29,119
all away like write at once, right, So make it special,

1185
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,400
like make it make it something that your fans want

1186
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,000
to work for and own it first. Like I feel

1187
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:37,559
for me, if I'm going to shoot it, it's going

1188
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:39,559
to be my only fans first, because I want the

1189
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:42,840
exclusive rights to it first. Yeah, Like I want to

1190
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,039
monetize it as much as possible upfront.

1191
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, see that's something that you could not have

1192
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,599
done eight years ago.

1193
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:54,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percents that one hundred percent be be

1194
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:56,880
ready to roll with the punches because in five years,

1195
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,559
this industry has changed so much. I can't even imagine, Like,

1196
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:02,239
like I talked to somebody earlier that was in eighteen

1197
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,639
years and then for twenty seven years, Like I can't

1198
00:59:04,639 --> 00:59:07,199
even imagine the changes that you guys have seen. And

1199
00:59:08,039 --> 00:59:13,559
my I'm just so like impressed by everybody that's been

1200
00:59:13,639 --> 00:59:16,159
in this long, especially like twenty seven years, for you

1201
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,480
to roll with it and to recreate and reinvent and

1202
00:59:19,679 --> 00:59:23,880
stay valid. It's like, I'm so impressed. It's impressive.

1203
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.

1204
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 2: I am like somebody who lives with the plan B. Yeah,

1205
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,159
I always have a plan B. I always have thing

1206
00:59:29,199 --> 00:59:31,039
in my back pocket. I'm like, if this doesn't work out,

1207
00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:34,119
I can do this. Like I am never not actively

1208
00:59:34,239 --> 00:59:36,440
thinking about like what else.

1209
00:59:36,679 --> 00:59:37,039
Speaker 1: I can do?

1210
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:40,639
Speaker 2: What other opportunities like never, yeah, and yeah, you can't

1211
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:41,519
rest on your laurels.

1212
00:59:41,679 --> 00:59:46,079
Speaker 4: No, and right now with so many of the sites

1213
00:59:46,159 --> 00:59:50,039
being blocked in so many states, yeah, we really need

1214
00:59:50,159 --> 00:59:52,320
to We really need to have a backup plan to

1215
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,360
be in to see and figure out, Okay, if you're

1216
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:56,679
about to stay in this industry, how are you going

1217
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,719
to make it work for you? Because you know, it's

1218
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,639
a it's a challenge every day that we're going to

1219
01:00:01,679 --> 01:00:03,000
get completely blocked.

1220
01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:05,559
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean the good thing is is that,

1221
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,519
like you know, social media has really allowed you know,

1222
01:00:08,679 --> 01:00:12,960
adult industry stars to gain a lot of power and

1223
01:00:13,079 --> 01:00:16,119
like that traffic, it's something deleted all the time, but still,

1224
01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:19,280
like you know, there's other avenues and options that can

1225
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,119
be open to you that don't necessarily have to do

1226
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:22,320
with sex.

1227
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, one hundred percent. The one thing I've noticed

1228
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,519
though is I've had like fitness brands reach out and

1229
01:00:27,639 --> 01:00:30,039
things like that. And then once because I don't advertise,

1230
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:32,280
especially on my Instagram, what I do, you know, Like

1231
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,679
there's not a ton of what I do on there.

1232
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,199
I mean there's if you look deep into like if

1233
01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:38,880
you really look at the whole page. You could figure

1234
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,159
it out. Yeah, But like I don't advertise it, and

1235
01:00:41,199 --> 01:00:43,599
so I've had other people reach out to like collab

1236
01:00:43,719 --> 01:00:47,880
and stuff, and then once they find out that I'm important,

1237
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,079
Like I had a fitness company reach out and they're like,

1238
01:00:50,119 --> 01:00:52,199
I'm sorry, like if you ever decide to leave, like

1239
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,719
but in order to join with us, you'd have to

1240
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,280
cancel everything. And I'm like, I'm just not I'm not

1241
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,119
prepared to do that yet. Sorry, unless you're really to

1242
01:01:00,159 --> 01:01:01,760
pay me like seven figures, Yeah, I'm not.

1243
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely I think an issue that we're going

1244
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,159
to face for a while. But I feel like, I mean,

1245
01:01:09,559 --> 01:01:12,679
it's I feel like it's gonna it's changing slowly but surely.

1246
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 4: Absolutely. While I think it's shifting right now, but like

1247
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,400
I know, like are my kids they all know what

1248
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,679
I do, right, and so it's kind of becoming like

1249
01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:25,519
a new normal, and so I think, like the judgment

1250
01:01:25,559 --> 01:01:29,480
and stuff, it might shift eventually again to say, like listen,

1251
01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:30,239
how did your.

1252
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: Kids handle knowing what you do for a living?

1253
01:01:32,679 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 4: Like how you tell them so because it's been so

1254
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:37,320
long now, they're all very different ages now than they

1255
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,159
were I told them in groups like the older ones

1256
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:43,559
and the younger ones. I was very honest, but agri

1257
01:01:43,639 --> 01:01:47,119
propriet honest. Yeah, the oldest one was very, very very

1258
01:01:47,199 --> 01:01:52,119
upset and still kind of is. My daughters have all

1259
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,159
been very supportive and they're like, are you happy, and

1260
01:01:55,239 --> 01:01:57,079
I'm like yes, and they're like, then we're happy for you.

1261
01:01:57,639 --> 01:02:02,559
And they're not making up terribly in this game.

1262
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: So but I'm very.

1263
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,599
Speaker 4: Protective of them. So like if people come up to

1264
01:02:06,679 --> 01:02:08,920
me and stuff, I can probably come off as a

1265
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,800
bitch if they're coming up to me with when I'm

1266
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,639
with my kids, because I'm very protective of that. And

1267
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,599
they're not on my social media and like I'm a

1268
01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:19,280
big believer in they need to be protected to the

1269
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,440
to the opteenth, Like I don't put them anywhere, like

1270
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,079
and my personal pages are all taken down because I

1271
01:02:26,119 --> 01:02:29,159
don't want anybody to know anything about them. So I

1272
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,719
started with the younger two where I just say like

1273
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,199
I just model, you know, or and then they thought

1274
01:02:34,199 --> 01:02:36,400
I like bikini modeled, and then they all got phones

1275
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,079
and realized that it's more than the page.

1276
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:41,559
Speaker 1: So yeah, we able to tell them before they found

1277
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:42,159
out on their own.

1278
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,039
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I told all of them before because that

1279
01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:47,599
was my biggest fear was they were going to go

1280
01:02:47,639 --> 01:02:51,119
to school and somebody was going to know. And their

1281
01:02:51,239 --> 01:02:54,280
dad actually did a very them the disservice by like

1282
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,400
texting all of their friends parents like videos and pictures

1283
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,519
and stuff. So he out of me first. So I

1284
01:03:01,679 --> 01:03:04,039
was like, why would you want to ruin your Yeah,

1285
01:03:04,199 --> 01:03:09,079
like he's he's not a great person. But my significant

1286
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:12,800
others X got got the message it like yeah, everybody,

1287
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:18,440
my family, everybody. So so I'm very grateful I had

1288
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,760
the wherewithal to mention it prior because I think there

1289
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,880
could have been like a relationship like fracture at that

1290
01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:28,679
point had I not come out and said it first.

1291
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, now, I almost every parent that I've talked

1292
01:03:31,559 --> 01:03:34,880
to who does sex work because has always said that

1293
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,639
if they don't tell their kids before the kids find

1294
01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:40,880
out of their own, it's they definitely regretted it.

1295
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 4: So yeah, age appropriate honesty is what I tell everybody

1296
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,119
with little kids. They're like, how did you do it?

1297
01:03:46,199 --> 01:03:48,639
I'm like, just slowly roll it, you know, like.

1298
01:03:48,719 --> 01:03:50,559
Speaker 1: You don't have to be my daughter that I make

1299
01:03:50,639 --> 01:03:51,519
movies for grown ups.

1300
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 4: That's great.

1301
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she's like she doesn't know what they don't

1302
01:03:54,719 --> 01:03:56,400
know any I'm like, you're not a grown up, you

1303
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,679
can't watch them. I'm like, when you're a.

1304
01:03:57,639 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: Grown up, you can watch them. Yeah, exactly, they would

1305
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:01,840
be really you wouldn't be interested anyway.

1306
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 4: Would be really boring for you, exactly. I know, like

1307
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,519
girls know I love makeup and hair and stuff like

1308
01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:10,079
that and clothes and so but they know my social

1309
01:04:10,119 --> 01:04:12,159
media is and all of that. But they also know

1310
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,800
that it's for adults and they're not adults, so you know,

1311
01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:20,400
we need to manage that. But yeah, I think just

1312
01:04:20,519 --> 01:04:21,639
honesty the best.

1313
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,159
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how my parents did it with me,

1314
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:24,360
you know, like, yeah.

1315
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 4: That's an interesting because you had it from the other side.

1316
01:04:28,719 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 2: So, so I grew up with pornographer parents and I

1317
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,039
always knew and and it wasn't yeah, and it was

1318
01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:36,519
I mean it was like, you know, I always had

1319
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:41,239
issues with like friends, like not letting my friends find

1320
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,960
out or my friend's parents find out. So there was

1321
01:04:44,159 --> 01:04:48,440
like a little bit of that, yeah, friction, just because

1322
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,000
I didn't want to like be treated differently, like how

1323
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:53,199
do you tell your because most parents like give their

1324
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,840
children zero sex education and like keep shame on them.

1325
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: About sex.

1326
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: So like for me to tell my friends like what

1327
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:04,719
my parents do is like totally real ify. Yeah, but overall,

1328
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,119
like and you know, I mean, obviously I ended up

1329
01:05:07,159 --> 01:05:09,079
in the industry, but like my brother and my sister

1330
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:13,639
are both completely work in completely different industries even closely

1331
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:15,400
related to adult and they're fine.

1332
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,079
Speaker 1: They don't care a great you.

1333
01:05:17,079 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 4: Don't you don't have any deep trauma, Like you just

1334
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,719
don't like you don't have any like deep rooted trauma.

1335
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,000
So I think, you know, if people ask me all

1336
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,239
the time, would you be okay with it? And I'd

1337
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,280
be like, yeah, I would just help guide them, you know,

1338
01:05:27,719 --> 01:05:30,079
that was their if that was their choice, Like I've

1339
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:34,599
I've had to learn everything by myself, Like it's nobody's

1340
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:37,719
handed anything to me. So of course I would be

1341
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,679
supportive because I would not want them, especially if they

1342
01:05:40,679 --> 01:05:43,199
started at a young age. I would want them to

1343
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,760
know the pitfalls and you know, because it can be

1344
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,960
a very cd as you know, as wonderful and as

1345
01:05:50,039 --> 01:05:53,920
amazing as so many of my experiences have been. You know,

1346
01:05:54,159 --> 01:05:56,159
you always hear those horror stories, so you want to

1347
01:05:56,239 --> 01:06:01,559
kind of like steer them clear of that. Yeah, But

1348
01:06:01,679 --> 01:06:06,039
I think doing what I do has and them knowing

1349
01:06:06,199 --> 01:06:10,440
what I do has allowed our conversations in real time

1350
01:06:10,719 --> 01:06:14,440
on real topics of sex and friendship and relationships. It's

1351
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:18,320
given them kind of like Corpeland. You know, they're very

1352
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,119
we're very open with each other. They ask me questions

1353
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,840
very openly, and like I again, I answer age appropriately.

1354
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,360
But I think that's great that they are comfortable enough

1355
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:32,719
to have those conversations. Yeah, and or you know, open

1356
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,559
with me with that. So yeah, I had I got

1357
01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:38,119
a phone call a Gublem months ago and I heard

1358
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,000
a friend in the background be like, you're gonna call

1359
01:06:40,039 --> 01:06:41,840
and tell your mom that? And she's like, I tell

1360
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:46,880
my mom everything. And I'm like, thank god. Yeah, I'm like, okay,

1361
01:06:47,159 --> 01:06:48,800
I wasn't meant to hear that, but I heard it,

1362
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,039
and it's like a huge, huge relief, huge relief.

1363
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: So okay, those are all my questions for this segment.

1364
01:06:56,119 --> 01:06:59,400
We have a some questions from my Patreon fans, who

1365
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,039
of course want to know more about you, but that

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will be for my Patreon members only.

1367
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