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your support. It is Monday, and so it's two o'clock

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and that means we talk with a pet Dylan, a

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reporter for the North State Journal. You can also read

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her substack newsletter called more to the Story ap. How

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are you great, Pete?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 1: I am well, hope you had a good weekend and

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I got a bunch of stuff. I saw you were

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cranking out a lot of pieces, both on your substack

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and at North State Journal. So let me start with

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oh gosh, where to start. Let's start with the anti

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Trump protests in North carol. I wonder if we took

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all of the protests that we saw on Saturday all

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around the state and we put them all in one place.

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Do you think it would be as large as the

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Momo Moo, the Moral Monday movement.

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Speaker 2: Yes, probably one of their larger ones. I know that

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there were dozens of protests across the state. The biggest

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one was in Raleigh. There was another one in Durham,

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and there was another one in Asheville, which should have

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made more headlines than it did, featuring a tableau of

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individuals dressed up like the MS thirteen gang members who

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were deported to the Seacot prison in El Salvador, and

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the white shorts and shirts and everything. And they've got

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a banner in the background that has nineteen forty five

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German concentration camp on one side and the twenty twenty

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USA funded concentration camp on the right side, which is

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the El Salvador in prison, so carrying violent MS certain

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gang members being put back into prison in their country

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of origin with Nazi concentration camps.

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Speaker 1: Right, and they're both these these two old white dudes

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are wearing face masks, white T shirts, white shorts, and

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white socks, which I guess is the that's the prison

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uniform of the El Salvador And sorry, you have to

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call it the Notorious. It's always the notorious prison in

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El Salvador. So yeah, they they do not. They do

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not represent actually very well, the the makeup of the

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people in the the seacot you know, they're yeah, they're

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they have way too few tattoos, for example. That's one

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of the things I see. Uh, they're they're very pudgy

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and they're very old. So and one of them has

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like he's not even bald. He didn't even shave his

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head for the tableau. He's like he's got some silly

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little fake bald cap on that. It's just I don't know,

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like that's Ashville though, it's so performative. It's just it's

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like theater kids that are now like seventy. It's just

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kind of said.

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Speaker 2: My teenage saw them actually called it cosplay.

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely, yeah, it is cosplay. So all right,

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so we had you mentioned that's the Ashville one with

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that tableau, but also the same demographic seems to be

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popping up. I saw photos from Huntersville where they had

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some people, and by some I mean like twelve. I

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think that we're standing on the side of a road,

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also fitting a particular demographic profile. I saw there was

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one down in rock Hill, South Carolina, just across the

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border here, same demographic profile. I'm not the first one

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to notice the kinds of people that are coming to

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these rallies. You've noticed it too, right, I have.

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Speaker 2: It seems to be an older set of individuals. The

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women was cited as having brought children to it, young

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children actually, but it seems to be an older set

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of people. That could be partly due to who's organizing

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these I know that the Durham Democrats have been big

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in organizing their protests and they have an older set

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of individuals in that group. And the Poor People's Campaign

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has generally been older individuals too. If we go back

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to Moral Monday, those protests definitely were you know, people

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fifty five to sixty five and older.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And the Poor People's Campaign for people who don't know,

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that's that's Reverend Barber's operation, right, yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he started that almost a decade ago I think,

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Speaker 1: Was after the Moral Monday movement if I recall correctly.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was he decided that that was that thing.

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It served its purpose, It was a vehicle that had

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served its purpose and he was moving on with this

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national Poor People's Campaign, which of course has seen money

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flow into it. And I have to confirm this, but

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it looks like there were taxpayer funded dollars.

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Speaker 1: Oh fantastic, what a shock. WRAL live streamed the Raleigh protest.

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That was helpful of them, That was very nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to see all the speakers, but they

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didn't pan into the crowd at all. So the Poor

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People's Campaign and actually posted one of the crowd photos

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from about midway through. As of ten minutes before it,

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they had posted a photo of an empty Halifax mall.

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But afterwards it looks like, you know, there's probably two

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or three hundred people there, not the thousands that the

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media seems to be portraying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this you say was not of these protests

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were not nearly as big as the one that was

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held earlier this month either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, definitely not as big as the April fifth one.

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That one actually was pretty big. This particular protest. Also,

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they told their folks who were coming not to bring

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signs that had swastikas or Nazi symbolism on them. You know,

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I don't know who needed to hear that, but uh,

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we're told about to bring that kind of material.

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Speaker 1: I did see some though, I did see some swastikas

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that were out there. But yes, yeah, you've got the

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protest signed guidelines that were issued by five oh five

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oh one or fifty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty fifty one, fifty stage, fifty day, fifty protests one,

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you know, one movement or whatever it's cod right, it

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was terrible name launched on Reddit. It wasn't launched on Reddit,

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it was it was it was platformed there, right, So.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you do know about this because I looked

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into this as well this morning, because I've seen this

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hashtag fifty to fifty one, and it's a terrible name

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because when you say it, like as I say it,

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it sounds like I'm saying two numbers, fifty and then

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fifty one, but it's five oh five oh one, and

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it's fifty protests, fifty states one movement. And they claim

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that the Reddit originator uh is somebody who goes by

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the name of evolved fung Guy Fun Fun fun guy, Yeah,

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who has not responded to an interview to a Rolling Stone,

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and in other posts he described himself as an engineer

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by day with a degree in marketing and a fascination

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with virality. And I'm thinking he means like stuff going

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viral on the internet.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, no, that pretty much means to be some

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campaign guy, right who does day who did data analytics

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for a campaign. That's what that says to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it sounds an awful lot like the Occupy formation, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, Occupy was a testing ground. We're saying all the

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same chance, all the same signs, all the same complaints,

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and no one are able to articulate any real reason

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why they're there. But then you know that then we

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saw Black Lives Matter, and we're seeing some of the

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violent side of the Black Lives Matter, you know, protest

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kind of things, you know, with the Nazi symbols and

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you know that call for violence and that sort of

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thing that we're starting to see coming out of left

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leaning groups. And you know, Indivisible is involved, yep, with

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these protests. The Democratic Party is involved with these protests.

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These things are you know, they're trying to make it

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seem like it's organic. Some random redditor did it. Now

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I'm just not buying that.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not either, not at all, And I did,

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like in their protests signed guidelines as you mentioned, you know,

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no swastikas, limit the use of offensive or vulgar language,

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don't not do it, just like limit it and consider

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language suitable for children and families. So I'm guessing they're

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gonna like read a bunch of the dirty books at

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these events and they would be okay, Like if you

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can find it on the bookshelf at at your kid's

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kindergarten class, then you can read it at the protest,

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Like what does count as suitable for children among these people?

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I don't even know, some very good questions. Yeah, yeah,

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where do you draw the line on that? Can I

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show the gay porn sketches from the Yeah, from the

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comic books. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There were a lot of signs there that had to

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do with immigration too, which actually ties into the shutting

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down of the Greensboro intake facility that DHS had leased

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since June of twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked about this, my Grreantcholder.

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Speaker 2: And not a single child was How was there right?

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Speaker 1: So that to me, I was not aware of this.

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So this was the former American Hebrew Academy in Greensboro.

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You wrote about this at North State Journal NSJ online

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dot com that was originally supposed to it is like

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converted to this like ice facility or something, right, and

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they were supposed to be housing all of these kids

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and nobody they never put any kids in there. I thought.

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We saw images and video of vehicles rolling up with people.

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Speaker 2: That was the thing the entire time. Sorry DHS and

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the Office of Refugee Settlement under DHS, they basically said

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that no children had ever been housed there yet. About

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a summer ago, I had someone who lived in the

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neighborhood in that area send me a bunch of photos

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of buses with blackened out windows heading in and out

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of that facility. So who or what was on that

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on those buses, I don't know. I've never gotten an

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answer out of out of the federal agencies or of

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Greensboro Academy. We actually went and visited that place a

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year ago. We walked up to the gate and asked

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if someone could come talk to us, and it was

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staffed by contracted you know, security personnel who basically told

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me and know on certain terms, no, no one's going

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to come talk to you, and you need to get

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off the property.

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Speaker 1: They did get though, right, I mean the right that right,

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You've got some contracts for that service deployed services.

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Speaker 2: Deployed services. Yeah, there was a couple of million dollars

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that went to them. There was six hundred thousand dollars

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in handymanned services dated back to a September twenty twenty two,

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various support and upkeep for leasing and repairs. And what's

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interesting about that property is that the there was a

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loan document on that original property when it was the

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American Hebrew Academy, and the loan documentation ping pong back

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and forth over the last two years between two Chinese

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tied entities that have their counting in the Cayman Islands.

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Speaker 1: That is not at all shady whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, two of them had directed their their documentation

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was actually signed in the American embassy in Beijing, China,

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and one of them had direct ties to the Communist Party.

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And so I'm sure anyone's really looking into that anymore.

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But it's I reported on it. We'll see where that goes.

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That The overall lease itself is for millions of dollars, and.

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Speaker 1: So it's supposedly just empty now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, supposedly it's just empty. They had used it after

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Hurricane Helen. They had used it for a couple months

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in order to do staging and hurricane relief operations. I

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think it was from October to February, so October of

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last year through February this year. And they announced recently

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that it's closing down on April one, So it's closed

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US now.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we can sell it off to El Salvador. I

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don't know rented out, knows.

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Speaker 2: What's gonna happen with that, but I'm just watching it

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all right.

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Speaker 1: Ap Dylan. You can read her work at North State

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Journal nsjonline dot com and also subscribe to her newsletter

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at substack dot com. It's called More to the Story,

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AP Dylan, thanks so much, good to talk with you.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Thanks Pete.

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at the North State Journal. We talked about this with

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her in the past. In Greensboro, it's this sprawling campus

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it's called the American Hebrew Academy. But they closed down

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and then word got out that there were buses coming

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in and what is being used for, you know, some

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border patrol operations or whatever. And this was at the

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height of the the Biden administration, you know, busing people

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all over the country basically engaged in human trafficking, right,

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And we started seeing buses with people getting you know,

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let off of them in the dead of night, and

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this became one of those same types of sites. FEMA

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staff did use it for a bit after Hurricane Helene

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ap reports that the original lease for the school, which

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was renamed to the Greensboro Influx Care Facility or the ICF,

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the lease for it was five years beginning June twenty

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twenty two. The lease was entered into by the Biden

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Administration's Department of Health and Human Services for just under

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fifty million million dollars. More than two hundred forty one

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million dollars was spent on leasing, repairs, security, and general

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upkeep starting when the lease began in twenty twenty two

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through its termination, So we spent a quarter of a

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billion dollars in taxpayer money. It sounds like for this

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facility that never housed any of the migrant children, because

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this was supposed to be a more humane thing, right

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than the kids engages. Right the Office of was it

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Refugee Resettlement or THEERR or the or They claimed that

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the site had remained unused for migrant children, but residents

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living near the facility told the North State Journal that

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charter buses with blacked out windows had been seen coming

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and going from the facility during the twenty twenty three

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year and you heard talk about that. And then to

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go into the property transactions. This is very interesting. While

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the former American Hebrew Academy property has not seen much

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physical activity in the past three years, it has seen

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transactions involving foreign actors. Property records showed twenty six million

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dollars in loans related to the property had changed hands

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between two companies with ties to the People's Republic of China.

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Around fifteen million of an original twenty six million loan

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assigned to Puchsin Limited or Pucksen, pux I N or

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Pushin I guess it might be Pushin Limited. So fifteen

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million of the twenty six million dollar loan was transferred

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from Pushin to Meta Broad International Group and HEI Holdings.

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Some of the transfer documents were actually signed at the

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US Embassy in Beijing. This is all super shady, super shady.

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It just it looks shady.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: It might not be right. It's possible it might not

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be It's like it's like these fifty to fifty one

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protests that we're seeing. CNN calls it fifty to fifty

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one demonstrations condemning what they describe as Trump's executive overreach,

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including deportations without due process, the dismantling of federal agencies,

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and threats to higher education. By the way, am I

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supposed to understand? This is the standard now that you

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can violate any rule whatsoever to enter, but we cannot

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remove you unless we run you through a trial. Is

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that the idea? Like the people who come in legally,

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they go through a process that takes them years, like

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a decade or so, and they have to jump through

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all the hoops, right, they got to constantly prove who

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they are and what they're doing and everything else. And

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you can break all those rules. You don't have to

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follow any of that stuff. And then when you get here. No, no, no,

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now you demand that we follow the rules that you

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ignored to arrive here. That's the standard, So I get

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to break all of the rules. Yeah, Like to me,

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it's very simple. Who are you? We've identified you. You

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are not in this country legally. That's very easy to determine, apparently,

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and then we send you back. The issue arises when

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you have people who are criminals from other countries and

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those countries don't want to take them back while we

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have no we have no diplomatic relations with that country

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like Venezuela, and they refuse to allow our planes to

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land there. They won't take their people back. What do

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you do with them? Do we just have to leave

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them out on the streets in America because they've committed

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no crime in America? Right? What do you do with them?

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What do you do with somebody who is to be

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deported back to Venezuela. Venezuela won't take them and they've

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committed no crime here? Did they just get to stay?

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It seems like that's the standard that I'm being told

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we have to now have, and I feel like, I

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don't know, there should be some sort of a law

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written about that before we just adopt that as the standard.

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A New Yale Youth pole finds gen Z voters under

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the age of twenty one lean conservative by twelve points.

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I love gen Z now all right, No we but look,

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this is one of the reasons why the Democrat Party

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put David hag Guga into the vice president's chair in

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their party. Right, David hog Giga, the guy who you know,

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made a career for himself and got himself accepted into

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Harvard even though his grades were lousy. But they took

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him because he was an activist leftist. After his high

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school was the scene of a shooting, right, the Marjorie

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Stone in Douglas High School down in Parkland, Parkland, Florida, Right,

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And so David Hogg became one of the three kids

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from that school that started the what was the name

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of that group, not the People's Choice, that's no, those

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are words, But I forget what he is. What their

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organization was called. It's still around, but you never see

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the other two. One of the guys. There was a guy,

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a girl, and Hog And I didn't mean it like that.

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That's his name. Hog. I didn't mean it anyway. So

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the guy he kind of disappeared. Oh, March for Our Lives.

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That's the name of the organization, March for Our Lives.

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And so the guy just kind of disappeared. And the

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last thing I ever remember reading about him was that

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he was trying to educate himself on guns because after

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the shooting at the school, he you know, they launched this,

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you know, March for Our Lives, you know, protect the schools,

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save the kids' lives, all of this, and he started

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getting a lot of challenges from Second Amendment rights advocates,

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and he became very aware that he did not know

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what he was talking about as it relates to firearms,

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and so he went out to a shooting range. Somebody

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took him to a shooting range and he I remember

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him talking about it, or I read an interview with

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him about it, and I remember coming away, I don't

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remember what he said. I don't have the story in

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front of me. This is just off the top of

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my head from memory, which was that he had expressed

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something that seemed an awful lot, like, huh, that was

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kind of fun. I can see why people like doing this.

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And then I never heard from him again. I don't

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even know if he's still part of it. And the girl,

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the last I heard, she was like, I'm not buying

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area everybody, and they were like, oh, so brave. And

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then I never heard from her again, and now it's

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just hog So anyway, Democrats think that this guy, and

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I think he's now probably late twenties, they think he's

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gonna be the one that's gonna, I guess, like win

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back the youth male vote. I mean, have you seen him.

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He's very No. Yeah, a stiff breeze will knock this

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kid over. Okay, he looks like a que tip. I

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don't mean to I don't mean like it's just like

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a because he's so skinny. He has like nobody fat

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or muscle. He is skin and bones, and he's got

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a very large head with a haircut that he can control.

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He can control that haircut, and the haircut makes his

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head look even bigger. So he looks kind of like

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a q tip to me. I'm not trying to be mean,

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I really am not. I'm just saying he just strikes

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me like that. So anyway, he's also really annoying and

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wrong about like everything. So this is a piece by

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David Strom hotair dot Com. Annoying hero of the Democratic

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left isn't on a mission to get Democrats elected. He

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is determined to move a party that is already far

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left of the country even more leftward, and that is

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not sitting well, with a lot of Democrats who actually

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want to win. This is so fantastic. Remember, don't call

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it a civil war. Those only happen inside the Republican Party.

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This is Democrats in disarray. Although I think, well though

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the name of the piece at hot air dot Com

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is the Democrats civil war rages on because it like

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it is when I have said that we are witnessing

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a realignment of the political parties. Right, it's not just

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the Republicans. Republicans started on this path earlier than the

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Democrats did. I think we are now seeing this is

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the they are reaping what they have sown. And the

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movement away of all of these demographic groups away from

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the Democra Party is leaving sort of the old guard

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that has the power, the more moderate Democrats, very few

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of them remain right, and then these far leftists. Because

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when I've talked about this before, this phenomenon happens in

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all sorts of organizations where you have a bunch of

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people that join, they're all united in a cause or whatever,

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and then as people peel away. You saw this with

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like the LGBT movement as well, where after gay marriage

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was legalized, a lot of your more moderate centrist types

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of people left the movement quote unquote, they didn't feel

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the need to go and participate in the marches or

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to speak at government meetings or make donations and such,

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and so what you had left was the more radical

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fringe elements in that organization, and that's what you're seeing

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in the Democrat Party right now, and David Hogg being

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elevated to vice chair is proof of that. Let me

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get James on real quick. Hey, James, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hey, mister Hogg one of our all time favorite pets.

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He built his entire political career, although I understand his

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father was a big time left winger, on the fact

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that he survived the park when shooting but in the

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school that day.

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Speaker 1: Correct, he was not at the school at the time

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of the shooting. He did arrive after with a video

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camera and that's what made him famous.

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Speaker 3: So his entire, his entire political career is based on a.

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Speaker 1: Lie, it would seem. So I don't know if he

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goes out there and says that he was there, he

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like what I've heard him say are things that are

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nebulous enough where he can claim, like he'll say, oh, yeah,

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I was at the school that day, and that's technically true,

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but he wasn't at the time of the shooting. But

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he gives this illusion. He allows people to believe that,

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you know, he witnessed the murders and such like. That's

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the that's what he lets people believe. That's part of

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his persona, his public persona, his origin story.

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Speaker 3: And he knows almost as much about guns as my

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one and a half year old house cat.

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Speaker 1: Well, that is on brand. Yeah, James, I appreciate it, buddy,

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Thank you. No, it's exactly right. So it's one of

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the things that's always rubbed me wrong about David Hogg Ugh.

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He has two g's on his name. That's why I

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say it that way. All right, if you're listening to

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this show, you know I try to keep up with

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all sorts of current events, and I know you do too,

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and you've probably heard me say get your news from

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more transparent. There's a group called Leaders We Deserve, a

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political group which Hogg co founded. In twenty twenty three. Okay,

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Leaders we Deserve announced plans to spend twenty million dollars

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to assist in electing younger Democratic leaders, including primary challengers

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to incumbent House Democrats. So to let's just chart this

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out like we're going to do a little flow chart here. Okay,

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David Hog for the Democrat Party vice chair. Okay, David

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Hogg is the Democrat Party vice chair. He also co

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founded a group leaders we deserve and that group is

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going to primary members of the party that David Hogg

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is the party vice Chairoff. As party vice chair, you're

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supposed to be going around trying to get Democrats elected,

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and I guess technically you would if you are trying

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to primary a Democrat with another Democrat in a Democrat primary, right,

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But this is not sitting very well with Democrats, particularly

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the older generation Democrats who actually want to win elections.

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And they're like, if you primary moderate Democrats or whatever

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passes for moderate Democrat nowadays, you primary those guys and

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gals with far left moonbats, you're going to lose the

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general election. You're going to further marginalize our party. The

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New York Times or sorry, No, this was from Politics

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War Room podcast and The Raging Cajun James Carville. He

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said that Hogg should resign from his post as the

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DNC vice chair for targeting members of his own party.

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He said, quote may many the site money that's a

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little bit more like strom Thurman. I apologize that was

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my first run at a Carville impression. He has a

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lost chaplain of the Democratic National Committee. Well, anyway, and

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he's talking about raising twenty million dollars to primary other Democrats. Well,

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when I look at the DNC, ideally it should be

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an organization that's trying to beat Republicans, not other Democrats.

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When you're talking about using the power of the DNC,

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whatever power it has, not very much, but you're using

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that and we are paying the Democratic donors, are paying

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David Hogg's salary, they are paying David Hogg's staff. And

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he wants to run against Democrats. He says, oh, look,

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run against who the bleep you want to, but resign

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your position. Have guts, man, have guts, stand your ground.

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I don't think that's part of the Democratic coalition. I

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don't think they're redeemable. I don't think they want to

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be redeemed. Carvell then repeated a prior suggestion that far

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left individuals should just formally break away from the Democratic Party.

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All look at Carville trying to re in and beg

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for mercy from some leftists. That's adorable, dude. You know

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they don't do that. Mercy is not one of the

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things they do. Sorry, I just find this rich because

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being on the right right seeing the way the leftists

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behave towards the right and the quote moderate Democrats and

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the Democrat Party and all that. They have ignored the

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abuses of the leftists against people on the right because

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it allowed the Democrats to achieve and detain and retain power.

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But now now, well, you've been feeding that alligator hoping

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it would eat you last. The leftward lurch of the

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Democrats has a long history, writes David Strom, and what

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is happening now is a recapitulation of what happened in

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the sixties and seventies, a move that put them in

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the political wilderness. It spawned the Demococratic Leadership Council, which

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gave us Bill Clinton and a partial Democratic Party revival.

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But such a revival will be much more difficult this time,

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given that the working class base of the party has

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shifted right word, the working class base of the party.

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Do they go back? Are they going back because they

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voted for Trump because the Democrat Party wasn't left wing enough? No,

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of course not. The current base of the party now

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is really far left, and Hogg is proof of that.

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The DNC, you'll recall, had to rig the nomination process

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to install Hillary Clinton, and then they did the same

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in twenty twenty to install Joe Biden, hoping he would

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be a moderate president. But he wasn't or his handlers

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weren't right. President Auto Pen wasn't right. He lurched far

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left on social and economic issues and was only tempered

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by the greed and corruption of the Democrat oligarch class.

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Kamala Harris's loss has crippled even that wing of the party,

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now giving power to the awfuls, the affluent white female

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liberals and the Democrat brown shirts who embrace socialism, political

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violence and who might find AOC a bit too moderate

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for their tastes. Liberals are frothing in furious rage, and

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not only at Republicans. A record number have lost faith

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in the Democratic Party. Its favorability has never been this bad.

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Liberals are begging, pleading for new leaders and a new direction.

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They want to go further left, They want to go

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to war Hog. David Strom says Hog is not the

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cause of this shift. He's a symptom basically right. Bernie

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Sanders not the cause. Barack Obama was the most effective

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of the bunch and did further the cause, but he

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at least presented himself as a center left, acceptable Democrat

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who incrementally pushed the party leftward. Wasn't really a hardcore revolutionary,

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didn't speak the language of the revolutionary like AOC screeches

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from the podium after getting off of her first class

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plane ride. The consultant class and the oligarchs are now

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panicking seeing the face of the party becoming the aocs

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instead of the leftist but boring Pete Bootages. Bootages may

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be in the lead right now for the presidential nomination,

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but that's only because the leftists are split. He's not

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that far ahead of AOC. And as people drop out

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of the Democrat primary running right these and it's way early,

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I know, but people are already starting to, you know,

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make their moves. And once the you know, people make

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their moves, they announce their candidacies, and then they drop

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out because they're not getting enough support. Then the far

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left will coal less around somebody more like AOC than

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Pete Budajuj. All the energy is on the side of

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the leftists who think political assassinations of Trump or Musk

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would be justified. And that's not hyperbole. Fifty five percent

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of liberals told Rutgers University that this would be fine

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with them. The assassinations of Trump and Musk fifty five

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percent of liberals. They applaud riots, They worship Luigi Mangioni

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and Carmelo Anthony, right murderers, assassins. Look at the way

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they're handling this, you know, MS thirteen guy. Democrats who

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want to win are desperate to move to the center,

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but the Democrat base wants hog. That's the problem for

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the Democrats now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm not here to advise them on how to win,

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because I would prefer they don't. I don't want them

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to win. And so to that extent, the further to

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the left the Democrats go as a party, I think,

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the better it is for the rest of the country,

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because they become so unattractive that now nobody will vote

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for them. But I don't know what's going to happen

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with the Republican Party either. Who knows? And Strom says

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James carvill is a jerk and not exactly in touch

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with twenty twenties America, But on this he is right.

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The Democrats are imploding in the civil war will rage

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on for quite a while. All Right, that'll do it

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for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I

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