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<v Speaker 1>This is the what you're talking about with this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no preamble today, there's no mucking around. We

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<v Speaker 1>are straight to the crux of it. King Marcus of Ilkley,

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<v Speaker 1>you came, you saw you conquered. Mate. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about Ilkley. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about grass courts and teamwork and all of that. What

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<v Speaker 1>your plans are? Where are you now? What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I am in an airbnb by Baron's Court. I'm playing

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<v Speaker 2>Queen's this week, the Queen's Club HSBC Championships.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice of course, the stellar artoire in my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah the cinch since since you agon of course, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>fever Tree a tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, of course, yeah, well done, well done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and other branding sponsorships available. So tell me, so you

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<v Speaker 1>got straight into Queens.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a wild card. Yeah, no, you don't get

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<v Speaker 2>into I mean there's I think the coup was sixty

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, so so here's always strong Queens.

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<v Speaker 2>Just before Wimbledon, pairs wanted to get on the grass.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so we got a wild card. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was confirmed on Friday of last week, not this

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<v Speaker 2>this coming Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>And as yet we don't know about the wildcard for Wimbledon.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we don't know about any other wild cards Eastport,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think we will find out this week and

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I mean, the best part I've ever been

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<v Speaker 2>for a wild card. But yeah, don't count your chickens.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm, don't count your wild cards before they hatch. So look,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's talk about why you're in such a great position.

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<v Speaker 1>You're sixty five in the world. And also, dear listener

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<v Speaker 1>or viewer, however you consume this, isn't it amazing? Like

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking to the sixty fifth best doubles player on

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<v Speaker 1>the planet and actually the biggest Grand Slam of the

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<v Speaker 1>years a couple of weeks away. You don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in it. You don't know if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be turning that little uber app on and doing a

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<v Speaker 1>few deliveries or playing in the Grand Slam. Always astonishes

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<v Speaker 1>me and how cool you are under that kind of pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's let's talk about one of the reasons you're

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five in the world is last week you won it, Ilkley,

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<v Speaker 1>We did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was a it was a tricky week actually,

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<v Speaker 2>so lots of rain, delace, lots of indoor practice, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I actually actually felt my achilles go on the Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd hit for an hour indoors. I think some serves

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<v Speaker 2>at the end, and I felt for me, felt something

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<v Speaker 2>bad and achilles. You don't want to mess with, do you.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was in the physios a lot. I was

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<v Speaker 2>in with a doctor a lot, and we were kind

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<v Speaker 2>of debating whether I was going to play at all

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<v Speaker 2>last week. So that was, you know, in hindsight, now

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<v Speaker 2>that's quite an interesting interesting thing. But I got taped up,

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<v Speaker 2>we got a Wednesday start, and you know, I played.

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<v Speaker 2>We played the second match indoor, the fourteen twelve match.

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<v Speaker 2>That was quite topsy turvy. But yeah, so I got

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<v Speaker 2>three matches on the grass.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless someone's following this, they don't know how much I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you say topsy turvy. Last week in the UK, it

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<v Speaker 1>basically just rained, right and for grass scoots, that's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened? How do you find out about where you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing and how you get switched to an indoor a critic?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so so yeah, everything changes through the day,

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<v Speaker 2>so your schedule to first of all, you schedule your

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<v Speaker 2>practice right, and then so you practice for one that

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<v Speaker 2>is still raining, so then you try and push that back,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they got so backlogged and they said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to put the doubles indoors because we need

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<v Speaker 2>some matches to get done. Now, begg in mind, the

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<v Speaker 2>first round already done. So this is you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about four matches in the in the whole tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>They did the women's as well, but they threw the

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<v Speaker 2>doubles inside and there's not lot you can do about it. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to go in for my for my achilles,

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<v Speaker 2>change the surface, it's more impact on the indoors. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, once once they made that decision, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to You've got to go. You've got to play. So

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<v Speaker 2>then I went to the doctor and visio and said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>can I play, did a bit of testing, taped it

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<v Speaker 2>up like a mummy and and they said, well, if

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<v Speaker 2>you feel it, just pull out straight away. And fortunately

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<v Speaker 2>I had no feeling in my left leg at all

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<v Speaker 2>because they wrapped it so tight. So so that was.

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<v Speaker 1>So you go indoors. This is the It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the reawakening of the partnership with David Stephenson and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean watching watching it he looks like a dream

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<v Speaker 1>doubles partner. The serfs are just banging down. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many put away volley opportunities, aren't there? Off the back

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<v Speaker 1>of that, and then obviously with you serving his reach,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you you always say the phrase mister tickle arms,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's slightly longer than mister tickle arms, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And it makes.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you how did you find the partnership kind

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<v Speaker 1>of progress through the week?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was. There was a lot of problem solving

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<v Speaker 2>each day. So you see first round as my first

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<v Speaker 2>match on the grass, it's it's super windy as well

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<v Speaker 2>there where it was in a couple of matches. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're just trying to look after the basics on our

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<v Speaker 2>serf and find opportunities on their serve. But yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>got we got better, We got better better. Mentally, I

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<v Speaker 2>was a bit on edge this week actually on court,

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<v Speaker 2>like a bit more not more negative than joyful. And

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, after the after the semi final, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my coach said to me, look, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>your main focus for theirs to be positive, enjoy You

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<v Speaker 2>play the best tennis when you've kind of being a

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<v Speaker 2>bit silly or enjoying yourself. So so yeah, we we

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<v Speaker 2>were working on more than just tennis through the week.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, you know, after we won the quarter finals,

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<v Speaker 2>we had you know, you guys don't look like a

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<v Speaker 2>unit enough when you're sort of walking around and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. So we've had to work on more than

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<v Speaker 2>just tennis. But I'd say by the final that was

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<v Speaker 2>that was our best match in terms of maybe not performance.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, certainly my side. I struggled for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a good half an hour to find returns, but fortunately

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<v Speaker 2>everyone did because it was difficult. But yeah, we we

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<v Speaker 2>played our best match. I felt in the final.

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<v Speaker 1>Why were you negative? You've just you just played your

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<v Speaker 1>first rolling garross. You're looking forward to the grass. No

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<v Speaker 1>more brick dust in the eyes? What happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Not not negative? Just I can get quite chirpy. I

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<v Speaker 2>can get quite common, you know, if if it's if

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<v Speaker 2>it's windy, or I'm not feeling something, I can you know,

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<v Speaker 2>vocalize that a bit too much, you know, to my

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<v Speaker 2>to my coach at the side, or whatever. Just a

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<v Speaker 2>bit on edge. I don't know, Just just I guess

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<v Speaker 2>normal nerves wanting to play well on the grass, not

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<v Speaker 2>feeling as as as well as I wanted to out there,

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<v Speaker 2>but but I say it now, and obviously I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to I'm just jumping on the grass for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, and I don't know, probably feeling a bit

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<v Speaker 2>on edge about about my leg as well. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but but I'm glad to say I got better as

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<v Speaker 2>the week went on. So yeah, but sometimes you go

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<v Speaker 2>out there and you you don't. I don't put the

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<v Speaker 2>best mental performance in sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And so how do you feel today? Like going into Queens?

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<v Speaker 2>But oh yeah, I had had a hit there last night.

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<v Speaker 2>The courts a different. It's a lot quicker because there's

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<v Speaker 2>less wind and the you know, grasses. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say true, it's just different. So so yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just find our range. I feel a bit more relaxed

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<v Speaker 2>now I've had some matters on the grass. Obviously a

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<v Speaker 2>tournament win helps as well, so so yeah, feeling a

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<v Speaker 2>bit better. Dosed up on vitamin C for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days. So yeah, we'll continue to do that. Rock Star, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little while ago, when you've got into the top sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>you said to me all that I'm sixty and then

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<v Speaker 1>you looked and we were working out what you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do to be sixty to sixty one, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I said what you've got to do to be twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six and so on, you know, and we were working

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<v Speaker 1>it out. You're sneaking up there, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, I mean what into the.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixties now, in the mid sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>I went up three places. Yeah, from sixty eight to

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five. I've I've got a few points coming off,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Queens Wimbledon and UMAG final and of July.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's always the same for me. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>to try and keep building and making it sound like

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<v Speaker 2>an interview a bit here, but you have to just

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<v Speaker 2>take a week at a time and try and improve

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<v Speaker 2>and the ranking kind of looks after itself. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I have nudged up there. Yeah, there could be a

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<v Speaker 2>phase where I stay around the same ranking for a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're playing Ilkley last week, is it on your

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<v Speaker 1>mind going into the final with Before the final you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>if I win this, I get X amount of quired

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<v Speaker 1>and I get to go up to sixty five and

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to put me in great stead for play

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<v Speaker 1>the next few slams. And are you thinking that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Well, I know that, but it doesn't really I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if not really certainly not when it's in

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<v Speaker 2>a three or on a tiebreak, I'm not thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's about the next point. I've got quite good

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<v Speaker 2>at that, Whereas before I think probably a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, i'd have been looking at half I win

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<v Speaker 2>this match and I'll go to this ranking and that

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<v Speaker 2>means I can be seen in it, like, but now

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of you know, I think I went up

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<v Speaker 2>one spot after that final win, Like, it's not I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to ever win one match and it completely

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<v Speaker 2>changed my ranking anymore, which is really good in the

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<v Speaker 2>sense that you know, I'm not going to drop that

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<v Speaker 2>much in one week either. You know, one tournament can

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<v Speaker 2>completely change my ranking, but one match can't. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>a case of, yeah, if I made quarters or semis

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<v Speaker 2>of a slamper, say, that would really help my ranking.

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<v Speaker 2>But first round to second round, second round to third round,

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<v Speaker 2>not much.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's take a quick look at Queen. So you

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<v Speaker 1>win ill Clee, which for non UK people is in

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<v Speaker 1>your and what do you do. Do you get the

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<v Speaker 1>rattler down or did you drive? How did you get

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<v Speaker 1>here or fly.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a lift to Ilkley station, got the train

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<v Speaker 2>to Leeds and then got picked up at King's Cross

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<v Speaker 2>from one of the lovely Queen's cars they have here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh beautiful. So Queen's is an unbelievable tournament London. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually went last Thursday. Not a ball struck because of

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<v Speaker 1>the rain, so hooray for me. Just sat in the

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<v Speaker 1>sat in the kind of promo tent for twelve hours

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<v Speaker 1>or something, so had a lovely day. Nonetheless, the doubles

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<v Speaker 1>draw is the who's who of tennis, isn't it. I mean, Hella,

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<v Speaker 1>Vara and Patton, but like going through it, you've got Harrison, Skupski,

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<v Speaker 1>Demonur is teaming up with cam Norri and a little

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<v Speaker 1>pairing called Ram and Salisbury back together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think they're playing the remainder of the grass together.

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<v Speaker 1>Just danger everywhere, isn't it? And Cash and Glass is

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom there like I mean it's it's the

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<v Speaker 1>quality is unreal and you're in there. Tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we kind of know about your opponents, but

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<v Speaker 1>tell us what you're expecting.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the way you said that you're in the

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<v Speaker 2>we played them last year. We've got like a hybrid

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<v Speaker 2>draw of last year. We played them first round and

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<v Speaker 2>we beat them last year in the match tirek to

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<v Speaker 2>play heliovar pattern. It was the other side of the draw. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>they're very good. We played an incredibly good match last

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<v Speaker 2>year and it was you know, they weren't quite on

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<v Speaker 2>top of their game and we nip them. It's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be tough out there. But yeah, if we

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<v Speaker 2>if we if we serve well, if we look after

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<v Speaker 2>what we can look after, we're going to be very

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to beat.

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<v Speaker 1>So if if dave yes, lots of ifs, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you expecting from them? And have you trained? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>like a specifics now that you're into around they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go here if this happens, or they favor eye

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<v Speaker 1>formation and a break left and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Not at that level like when you when you're ten

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<v Speaker 2>eleven in the world, you can kind of serve anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>and move anywhere. So yeah, they'll they'll have their tendencies.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's yeah, you actually look at the breakdown of

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<v Speaker 2>these top pairs and where they serve. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three, thirty three, thirty three, fifty twenty five, twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not there's there's not much you can read into

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<v Speaker 2>it from what I imagine and from playing. Yeah even

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<v Speaker 2>even not even top twenty players, top fifty, top one hundred, like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not many players for that many limits anymore. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a case of trying to make ourselves set ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>up to be as difficult to beat as possible, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, watch out for certain tendencies that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they'll be doing the same.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, what is what does your day look like today?

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is just a quick touch and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do like a bit of a more thorough deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive later in a week, So what does your your

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<v Speaker 1>day look like?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna head to the gym in a second, grab

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<v Speaker 2>a coffee, head to the gym, see the physios, get

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<v Speaker 2>taped up, and then we're training three till five. So

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<v Speaker 2>we got some we've got to practice set against I

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<v Speaker 2>think Andreosy and Genard, and then we'll do specifics kind

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<v Speaker 2>of either side of that, and then I'll go and

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<v Speaker 2>get a massage, get some food. Obviously, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't mention food. And then food's amazing here by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, while I was waiting for my chicken yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>They leave pizza on the side, like there's a pizza

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<v Speaker 2>oven't and then and a lot of people just while

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<v Speaker 2>they're waiting for the food just slide to bits of

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<v Speaker 2>pizza down. It's quite difficult. So yeah, food obviously, and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to avoid the pizza, and yeah, check the schedule

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<v Speaker 2>and move from there again. It's it's you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>practice days are actually probably more bit see the matchdays,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's lots of organize as well, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to do in Queens. Yeah, yeah, that Queens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look, I'm gonna let you go because I know

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<v Speaker 1>that you do have to go, because you're a busy boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's what it is. Sixty five in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Who you know, it's me lounging around flicking cards in

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<v Speaker 1>the top hat. You're the one making moves. Have a

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<v Speaker 1>lovely day, mate, and we'll do a proper pod later

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<v Speaker 1>in the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Three three moves, three moves.

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<v Speaker 3>Last week, alright, Victor of Baranco on Troumon Sergeant Murder

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<v Speaker 3>of Craig Frederick and I'm the trumpet and the composition

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<v Speaker 3>the Army Blues

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<v Speaker 2>Worked like that