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<v Speaker 1>This is the audio from Recovery Stories Message of Hope,

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<v Speaker 1>Part four, recorded on October seventeenth, twenty twenty four, in

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<v Speaker 1>Traverse City, Michigan, courtesy of Months and Behavioral Help with

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<v Speaker 1>a grant from hrssay Held Resources and Services Administration. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Marnie Winfield with her Message of Hope.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Marnie and I'm a grateful person in recovery.

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<v Speaker 2>I say that and not because I'm not Marnie and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an alcoholic, because that's very much so true. I

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<v Speaker 2>check all the boxes of that and an addict, but

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<v Speaker 2>I choose to say I'm Marnie and I'm a grateful

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<v Speaker 2>person in recovery because I'm blessed to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>live every single day of my life without the use

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<v Speaker 2>of drugs or alcohol. It's good stuff. Yeah. So, so

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<v Speaker 2>those of you who know me, I wear a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of hats. I kind of always have worn a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of hats, and so I've just not recently it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like recently, But I've recently graduated with my master's and

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<v Speaker 2>social work. So I am a clinical therapist. Don't be scared,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. Yeah. And also I was working for Addiction

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<v Speaker 2>Treatment Services. I worked for that agency will still actually

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<v Speaker 2>technically do for four and a half years, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was interning as an intern for Mental Wealth at Mental

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<v Speaker 2>Wellness Counseling into private practice and also working alongside my

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful husband launching to seventeen Recovery, and it required me

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a lot of seminars and workshops and

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<v Speaker 2>conferences and consortiums because he doesn't know how to say consortiums.

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<v Speaker 2>And at these I noticed that they would ask this

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<v Speaker 2>question a lot. It was very popular but very powerful,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was what is your why? And so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in these trainings and they say, what is your why?

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm like, okay, I can think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, because I signed up for it, and like why, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>because I need the credits and I need to learn

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<v Speaker 2>the material. Why because I need to pass a class?

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<v Speaker 2>Why because I need to graduate? Why? Well, because I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get my degree and vi a clinical therapist.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because I want to help people? Well? Why because

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<v Speaker 2>people help me. I'm a person in recovery and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to give back. And that's what's passion. That's my passion.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I'm at right now. So what is your

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<v Speaker 2>guys' is why, like, why are you here tonight? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Some of you are in treatment? And I say this

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<v Speaker 2>with the almost sincerity I am so freaking proud of you,

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<v Speaker 2>guys and ladies. Oh my god. Like swhere it starts.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was a Phoenix lady myself and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different capacities and throughout my lifetime. But that's I started,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I started here, and I'll get into that

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<v Speaker 2>in a second. So my story is there different chapters?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, for those of you who've ever done

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<v Speaker 2>open talks and you're like thinking about what you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to say, and you're like, oh my god, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know how. I don't even think I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go back there, Like I don't think I even really

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<v Speaker 2>want to sift through the chaos that was my life

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what to share and what not to share.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is messages of hope, so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to veer in that direction. I grew up in Saline,

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<v Speaker 2>which is near ann Arbor, downstate, and I had a

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<v Speaker 2>really good, really good childhood. I had a really good upbringing,

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<v Speaker 2>good core values. Alcohol was present in our household. My father,

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<v Speaker 2>who is now sixteen years sober who actually is present

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<v Speaker 2>here today in the back. So, I mean, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen years he's like, I don't know, one hundred and twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>So now I'm just kidding. There was use in our

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<v Speaker 2>home through when I was growing up, and actually my

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<v Speaker 2>dad was like my party buddy. We drank together and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So later in life, but anyhow, but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>everything was good, you know, no know, negativity, no physical

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<v Speaker 2>abuse or emotional abuse in the household. Like I grew

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<v Speaker 2>I had a really good upbringing. I had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of culture. I had a lot of travel, I had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of experiences. I was a very privileged child.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up and went to grew up and went

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<v Speaker 2>to Michigan State. Is that is that a real thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Went to Michigan State for my undergraduate degree. And I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really know. I never was one of those people

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<v Speaker 2>that knew exactly what I wanted to be when I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up. And it is not where I'm going with

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<v Speaker 2>this that I didn't want to be an alcohol because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to be that either. But I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a doctor. I didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, a cop. I didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a firefighter. I didn't want to be a veterinarian. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to be an accountant. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be a hairdresser. I like all these things. I knew

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<v Speaker 2>my limit, I knew my skill set, let's just say that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I knew it. But I knew I was good

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<v Speaker 2>with people. So a lot of that had to do

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<v Speaker 2>with showing me into My jobs that I chose were

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<v Speaker 2>in the service industry. It's for those of you that

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<v Speaker 2>know the service industry, it's very there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>substance use in prevalence in the service industry. But I

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<v Speaker 2>met Michigan State and I'm doing really well. I got

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<v Speaker 2>my head on pretty straight. I'm working at a restaurant

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<v Speaker 2>called the Rivi or a cafe, which is not a cafe,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bar. And I got a really good education.

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<v Speaker 2>But junior years when I really started noticing my relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with alcohol was not normal, even though at Michigan State

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<v Speaker 2>and partying things were acceptable, right Binge drinking is acceptable,

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<v Speaker 2>hangovers are acceptable, drinking during the day is acceptable, drinking

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning is acceptable. Being smelling like booze at

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<v Speaker 2>eight o'clock in the morning at your class is acceptable

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<v Speaker 2>because you know you're in college and people don't really care.

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<v Speaker 2>But it ended up catching up with me and my

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<v Speaker 2>grades started slipping end of junior year into senior year.

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<v Speaker 2>But I graduated with honors. I did great. I did

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<v Speaker 2>get my first UI. When I was in college, ran

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<v Speaker 2>through a stop sign. Slap on the wrist, No big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really even think it was a thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>just thought I was a college student who got caught.

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<v Speaker 2>After I graduated, I wasn't really sure what I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do. I was in I took a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>different jobs in sales positions, lived a bunch of different places.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing really set nothing really set in. I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>was like a nomad, but was doing okay everywhere I

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<v Speaker 2>went until I wasn't. I don't want to spend too

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<v Speaker 2>much time on the negative stuff that happened to me,

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<v Speaker 2>or like the chaos and the detriment that was my

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<v Speaker 2>life for a lot of years, because not that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not important, it is important. It's important for you to

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<v Speaker 2>explore those things and deal with those things and not

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<v Speaker 2>sweep everything under the rug in terms of what you've

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<v Speaker 2>dealt with and what you've had to go through. But

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<v Speaker 2>in the time that makes sense, and always with the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that you want to keep what you're doing strength

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<v Speaker 2>based and forward focused. Those are the two things that

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<v Speaker 2>are really important and what I think of now in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of recovery. After I graduated Fast Forward, I went

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<v Speaker 2>to a bunch of rehabs. People always ask like, when

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<v Speaker 2>is it that you actually when it clicked, Like, when

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<v Speaker 2>is it when you actually it stuck? And for me

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was for when it was my idea,

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<v Speaker 2>it had to be my idea. The treatment center that

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<v Speaker 2>I went to, I went there on my own terms.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't because of the judge. It wasn't because of

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<v Speaker 2>my parents. It wasn't because of a boyfriend. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>because of an employer, it wasn't because of a roommate.

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<v Speaker 2>It was because I knew I needed to go or

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't going to die that point, I had already

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<v Speaker 2>been hospitalized multiple times for detox, had been septic at

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<v Speaker 2>one point, and it was just terrible relationships, abuse, physical, emotional,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was time for me to turn things around.

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<v Speaker 2>And I knew if I was going to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't do it by myself. And I needed to

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<v Speaker 2>take this seriously. So I went into treatment and went

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<v Speaker 2>to Bear River, and I went in with full intentions

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<v Speaker 2>of just doing the work and doing exactly what our

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<v Speaker 2>friend Kim talked about earlier, keeping things real right, getting

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<v Speaker 2>honest with myself, honest about why I was there, getting

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<v Speaker 2>honest about the things I had been through, getting honest

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<v Speaker 2>about who I'd hurt, getting honest about the PEOPLEHOO had

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<v Speaker 2>hurt me, doing my four step stuff right, getting it

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<v Speaker 2>all out, and really realizing like what do I need

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<v Speaker 2>to do to move forward now? And the advice that

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<v Speaker 2>they give you is say you need to change everything.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what I did. There were very, very very

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<v Speaker 2>few people except for pretty much my family that I

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<v Speaker 2>actually kept contact with after I left that place and

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<v Speaker 2>I started over, and I did everything different than what

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<v Speaker 2>I had done before. It's one of those things where

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<v Speaker 2>I just knew it I needed to readjust my life

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<v Speaker 2>and like refocus and have it be real this time.

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<v Speaker 2>For me to do that, I got a job at

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<v Speaker 2>Addiction Dream and Services, and I was making like eleven

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<v Speaker 2>dollars an hour. So here I was like with this

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<v Speaker 2>bachelor's degree, and I'm just like I just need I

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<v Speaker 2>need to be around people that know what I am

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<v Speaker 2>and know what I'm doing and be okay with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was where that's where I ended up and

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<v Speaker 2>so and I could help other people along the way,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where I got lined up doing my coursework

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<v Speaker 2>for my master's degree. And you know, now I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>that route right now and it's it's going amazing. The

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I do want to talk about, so people

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<v Speaker 2>always ask me how I met Corey. We are we

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<v Speaker 2>are an exception to the rule. All right, We're just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say that. So I, uh, they say not to

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<v Speaker 2>get in relationships within the first year and what have you.

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<v Speaker 2>This was totally unintentional, mind you. The treatment center that uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that I was talked just speaking of, he actually was

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<v Speaker 2>working there at the time as a tech. Now this

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<v Speaker 2>there was not any sort of weirdness when I was there.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you that I handed God we literally I

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<v Speaker 2>was like this, this guy's funny and he's serious about

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<v Speaker 2>his recovery, and I'm going to listen to what he

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<v Speaker 2>has to say, because that's what I'm supposed to do,

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<v Speaker 2>is listen to what people have to say that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>are actually legit about their own recovery and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so I actually tracked him down afterwards on Facebook and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, where's the meet Where's there a meeting?

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, I don't think I can go to

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<v Speaker 2>a meeting with you. And I was like, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>said for to stick with the people who stick with

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<v Speaker 2>the winners, and so anyway, from that point on, we

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<v Speaker 2>ended up we ended up getting together later down the line,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can now call him my husband, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>amazing and he's an amazing man. When they say that

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<v Speaker 2>the promises come true, that's for real. Maybe not overnight,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not as fast as you want them to,

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<v Speaker 2>but they definitely do. Of all the trauma that I've

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<v Speaker 2>been through, Like, that's not the stuff that I focus

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<v Speaker 2>on today. I focus on what I need to do

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<v Speaker 2>for myself to stay sober, and that's making sure that

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<v Speaker 2>I am refilling my own recovery tank, as I call it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>doing the things that I need to do to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that I have less of a chance of picking

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<v Speaker 2>up today. Whether it's meetings, whether it's talking to somebody

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<v Speaker 2>at the office, Uh, maybe it's to maybe it's touching

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<v Speaker 2>bees with my family, you know, maybe it's exercising no

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<v Speaker 2>me you know, all these promises and all these miracles

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<v Speaker 2>come true, and the biggest miracle in my life, as

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<v Speaker 2>most of you guys know, and if you don't, I

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<v Speaker 2>am a new mom and it is. I know it

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<v Speaker 2>is the ultimate blessing, and that I can guarantee you

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<v Speaker 2>is the work of a higher power. So I know

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<v Speaker 2>that my higher power is on my side, always has been.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just sometimes I wasn't listening. My husband, my best

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<v Speaker 2>friend Corey today he's my why. And my little baby

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<v Speaker 2>back there who's crying, he's my why. All you guys

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<v Speaker 2>in this room today, you guys are all my why.

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<v Speaker 2>So keep doing what you're doing. Stay clean and sober.

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<v Speaker 2>You're doing amazing. Give yourself hat on your back, give

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<v Speaker 2>yourself some grace. Thank you for coming tonight. Take care, everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>have a good evening.

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