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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Marvel a Liance podcast recover anything in

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<v Speaker 1>everything to do with the Marvel Universe and the comics,

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<v Speaker 1>TV and movies. We go from er six one six

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<v Speaker 1>the Mojo Verse to Hell's Kitchen in order to Frank

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<v Speaker 1>Ulias t you, I'm the man without fears. I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>nerve with the mouth, David Alliance a Sembymbo volume two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety six. And you know, no, Spider nowar

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<v Speaker 1>to I. We're not gonna go for the hat trick

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<v Speaker 1>this week. They got us twice, but no, it is

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<v Speaker 1>just the Daredevil season Daredevil Born Against Season two spoilers

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<v Speaker 1>finale review. That's mouthful right there, but it is. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot to talk about with this finale.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it live up to the hype? Did the season

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole live up to the hype? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a good question to kind of aligned with that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have the table kind of rankings and things like

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<v Speaker 1>that put back question, but it's it's you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>brought some very interesting ideas and brought the storyline to

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<v Speaker 1>a conclusion and hinted towards the future. So but uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what about you, David what what what Ah's been your week?

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<v Speaker 1>You You've started your new.

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<v Speaker 2>Job, started a new job, messed around, became important at

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<v Speaker 2>said new jobs. So just been going through learning new

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<v Speaker 2>responsibilities in my place. And it all still in educational technology,

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<v Speaker 2>just a different lane. So it's it's been an adventure

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<v Speaker 2>this first week and I'm looking forward to more.

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<v Speaker 1>Good now we got bears layer in the chats and

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<v Speaker 1>good eeting guys. I have missed the last couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>like got in the way. Hope we all understand about

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<v Speaker 1>life either way. I have in the background wrap up

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow's video. All I have to say is what a project.

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<v Speaker 1>So but yeah, I know this week's been been busier.

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<v Speaker 1>You know we have now entered in at the you

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<v Speaker 1>know time recording be a week and a half left

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<v Speaker 1>for the school year for me. So it's uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>because you had a wild you know when you're amazed,

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<v Speaker 1>like let's peop, oh my god, it's like two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half weeks and now it's just a week and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. It's things are things are you know, testings underway,

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<v Speaker 1>all the all the fun of ending of school year.

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<v Speaker 1>But exciting times ahead and uh, some are calling our

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<v Speaker 1>names so we should. Uh, you know, it's gonna it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be gonna be a good summer. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a good busy summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking forward to my summer hours times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it'll be nice. I get start having some fridays

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<v Speaker 1>off to do four day weeks, so it'll be nice

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<v Speaker 1>having some three day weekends. But but yes, so I

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<v Speaker 1>know everyone's wanting to know our thoughts, some hot takes,

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<v Speaker 1>some interesting ideas of what's gonna be happening tonight. So

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So we've got Daredevil Born Again Season two,

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<v Speaker 1>Episode eight, Straight to Hell. So this is where we're

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<v Speaker 1>ending this season there, we know there. We have official confirmation.

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<v Speaker 1>They are officially halfway through filming production of season three.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think, David, Did this episode live up

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<v Speaker 1>to the height? Did this series redeem itself from the

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<v Speaker 1>Frankenstein series that season one was?

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<v Speaker 2>This has definitely surpassed season one, And I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>personally thoroughly enjoyed it, especially and I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 2>deep dive on the courtroom scene later. But I thoroughly

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it. You know, I could say that there is

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<v Speaker 2>a fair argument to make this episode the best of

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<v Speaker 2>this season.

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<v Speaker 1>At the best episode of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Season, all right, that there is a fair argument to

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<v Speaker 2>be made Gloves Off episode four, It is very much

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<v Speaker 2>up there. That's the Kingpin boxing episode with you know, Bullseye.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's an argument can be made.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm, best episode, best episode. You know. It's it's interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the as I said last week, the penultimate

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<v Speaker 1>episodes usually have a history with you know, Disney Plus's

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of like I wouldn't say it letdown. It

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of doesn't, you know, the peak's already reached,

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<v Speaker 1>and necessarily doesn't always pan out the way. Did it

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<v Speaker 1>have action? Yes, did it give revelations that you and

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of predictions in there that ended up coming true. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>did it live up to the hype? You know, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to say I definitely didn't like this at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely was upset with it. I hated it. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I hated it, and the reason I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like it was simply because you know, a few factors,

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<v Speaker 1>but the biggest one is I have to wait a

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<v Speaker 1>year to continue this at that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the build up, the build up, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome, Brent. That was for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this definitely left me going, damn it, I really

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta wait. And you know, someone called me and

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<v Speaker 2>even said, goes, so how long until I get seen suits? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care about anything else. I just need to

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<v Speaker 2>know when's the next season coming out. I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they're still filming, and they're like, god, damn it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, in all in all, it's the jokes society.

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<v Speaker 1>I put it put in our group chat that I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't you know, I had I had thought some hot takes.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have some things that I am disappointed with it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not because I expectations, admit, it's more of

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<v Speaker 1>just like you know, different directions they could have gone in.

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<v Speaker 1>But for the most for the most part, this was

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<v Speaker 1>a very good season finale. The season as a whole

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<v Speaker 1>definitely brings out some you know again, it is more

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<v Speaker 1>of a through line, not as just not even close

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<v Speaker 1>to being as disjointed as season one. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>great stuff. I don't want to go anymore non spoilers.

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<v Speaker 1>These are our thoughts at this point. So let's dive

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<v Speaker 1>deep into these spoilers. So if you haven't seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to spoil the heck out of it at

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<v Speaker 1>that point. We're going deep down to the depths of

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<v Speaker 1>all the spoilers at that point. So three two one,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. So the episode opens with a brief

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<v Speaker 1>moment of peace, you know, Matt and Karen laughing together

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<v Speaker 1>sharing drinks, almost like a glimpse of the light before

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<v Speaker 1>they had. But the illusion quickly breaks when Karen wakes

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<v Speaker 1>up back in court, still on trial, facing the full

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<v Speaker 1>weight of this system. After as the hearing resume, she

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<v Speaker 1>Kirsten is forced to buy time while Matt is delayed

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<v Speaker 1>after being shot during the ambush outside the courthouse. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica Jones helps Matt's leg wound. You know, this was

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say, this was interesting. Just this is

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<v Speaker 1>where I think this show kind of gets a little

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<v Speaker 1>comical at points. You know, It's one thing to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of see this and kind of go through this as

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<v Speaker 1>a comic, but you realize at these moments saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>in with a gunshot wound and do all bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, even I say like, okay, yeah, reality wise,

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<v Speaker 1>this doesn't really line up being kind of kind of laughable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I liked the opening of it. Karen's

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<v Speaker 2>dream of their life. You know, the restaurant that they

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<v Speaker 2>dating and the Netflix show, same one they meet up

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<v Speaker 2>on the stoop of It and season an, episode five,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, and so like they keep referencing this restaurant

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a connection for them. So she's having this

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<v Speaker 2>dream and then we just cut straight to Jessica Jones

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<v Speaker 2>wrapping up Matt's leg after having been shot through and through,

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<v Speaker 2>and this man is just like, yep, I got to

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<v Speaker 2>get patched up. I got to make my triumphant laid

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<v Speaker 2>Entrince into court.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and their conversation makes it clear that Jessica had

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<v Speaker 1>planned to leave the city after dealing with Charles, but

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<v Speaker 1>fists action have pushed things too far. She questions whether

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<v Speaker 1>Matt can actually stop them, and Matt admits that he

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<v Speaker 1>can't do it alone. So, yes, this is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of growth for Jessica in the sense of that wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to stay behind. And you know, we all knew it that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we didn't expect her to really fully leave,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's one of those things where it's Jessica. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I ever bought for a second that

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<v Speaker 1>she was. It just that didn't seem like her. I

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<v Speaker 1>get to, oh, I've got to protect my child, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to protect my child. I just never bought for her.

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<v Speaker 1>I really didn't buy that she was ever going to leave. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, even without you know, having seen the trailers, just

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<v Speaker 2>seeing that there were still scenes we hadn't seen her

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<v Speaker 2>in like she she never really gave that strong feeling

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<v Speaker 2>of yeah, she's about to go back to her old life.

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<v Speaker 2>It really felt like she's in this now.

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<v Speaker 1>credibility through Heather Glenn, who takes the stand and presents

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<v Speaker 1>chaos rather than just she's out of the line. But

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<v Speaker 1>she's not wrong. I think as the time has gone on,

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<v Speaker 2>to the dark side. She's now feels like she's closer

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<v Speaker 2>to Frank than she is being you know, virtuous like Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>And but she she has her reasons, like she's going

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<v Speaker 2>after justice, she's going after these feelings of equality and

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<v Speaker 2>She just has an odd way of doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do hear that the dark side is the

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<v Speaker 2>So that means this came out on Tuesday, and we

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, So so Matt doesn't arrive mid testimony, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>got to make that grand entrance, injured but determined, immediately

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<v Speaker 1>challenging Heather's conclusions. What begins as the standard cross his

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<v Speaker 1>amization quickly becomes deeply personal when Kirsten exposes that Heather

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<v Speaker 1>I just love it that basically calling it out. That's

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<v Speaker 1>straight up yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And Matt's face like, oh shit, like really.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I get video of that? And so MC, clearly

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<v Speaker 1>caught off guard with it, pushes further. He questioned whether

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<v Speaker 1>Karen is truly hiding behind Daredevil's match, or whether Heather

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<v Speaker 1>herself is hiding behind her position inside that this administration,

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<v Speaker 1>or is she hiding behind a mask as it were,

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<v Speaker 1>the court in tension just shifts. I mean you could

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I like the fact that Matt is constantly

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<v Speaker 2>got no qualms with saying, yeah, this this is a

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<v Speaker 2>kangaroo court, like we all know this, this isn't right.

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<v Speaker 2>We all know who's really in control, and it you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole court is kind of rough, like, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>all know that Fisk is behind this, but we can't

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the thing is too I think that's taking the

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<v Speaker 1>time to learn that. You know, he's tried to play

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<v Speaker 1>by the rules. He's tried to and people I say,

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<v Speaker 1>a lawyer, he's always tried to do that. But he

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<v Speaker 1>sees and we saw it last season when you know

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<v Speaker 1>of him, revealing Hector's role true his identity as being

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<v Speaker 1>offense on this one. He is he is not backing down.

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<v Speaker 1>He's continued to push the envelope, continue to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>way he's going to rattle, you know, fift team. He

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<v Speaker 1>has to do what they don't expect him. Did they

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<v Speaker 1>expect him to play by the rules they expect him

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<v Speaker 1>so that they can knock him down and he won't

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<v Speaker 1>go as far. And so that's what I like seeing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that is Matt does do that in the comics.

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<v Speaker 1>But again he has a history of staying within the

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<v Speaker 1>rules and using Daredable. It's almost like Daredevil's his his

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<v Speaker 1>way to exercise being outside the law. Obviously being a vigilante,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's always trying to find ways to stay with

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<v Speaker 1>very creative, gets a little like I wouldn't call it shade,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, bending the rules just slightly. He does

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<v Speaker 1>break them. So but we know his real target is

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson Fisz the Kingdom calling the Mayor to the stand,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when they had that little sidebar with a

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<v Speaker 1>judge and the DA's like, yeah, you can go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>for you already know, you know that he's gonna he

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<v Speaker 1>knows something. He's gonna come after you. So Mayor comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the stand and trying to you know, into a

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<v Speaker 1>direct attack on Fifth Empire. So Fist enters with complete confidence,

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<v Speaker 1>presenting himself, you know, White suit and all as the

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<v Speaker 1>Safer Streets Initiative to protect New York. And not only that,

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<v Speaker 1>he brings you know, he brings his you know, his posse.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got his goon squad with him, like they rolling

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<v Speaker 2>in here.

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<v Speaker 1>Deep.

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<v Speaker 2>He walks in, and then the Anti Vigilanci Task Force

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<v Speaker 2>files in and spreads the entire back room by the doorlight.

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<v Speaker 1>They they they rolling. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, but my favorite part of this is when Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>Fist starts stalking and he says, when I was a boy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yeah, So he's framing Karen with

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<v Speaker 1>and Daredevil as criminals responsible for the city suffering. Bring

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<v Speaker 1>up Boggy Nelson, Vanessa and every victim tied to the

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<v Speaker 1>cast surrounding and vigilanteism. And during this time, we start

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<v Speaker 1>seeing across the street who we think is Bullseye doing

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<v Speaker 1>the looking like you again a sniper rifle, But ain't

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<v Speaker 1>Bullseye because then we start seeing security cameras of some

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<v Speaker 1>of the avt IF getting taken out and we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to frame this in a different way, but

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<v Speaker 1>mister Dex is not having anything of this.

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<v Speaker 2>He takes everyone out and this was a great showing

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, his skills bouncing the knives off. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we we seen it two other times him bouncing the eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>but this one was like a real stunning display of it,

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<v Speaker 2>including bouncing the butt of the knife off to knock

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<v Speaker 2>people into, make them hit walls and columns.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he takes out the the fake bulls Eye

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<v Speaker 1>Well especially he does a little flipping and everything has

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that shot of him throwing the knife and the

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<v Speaker 2>camera rotating with the knife into the fake bulls Eye's hands, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is marvelous. So yeah, Back in the court room,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt dismantles the narrative piece by piece that he shifts.

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<v Speaker 2>The shifts into the Northern Star, this ship that had

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<v Speaker 2>the illegal weapons at Fifth Freeport Operation was supposedly smuggling

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<v Speaker 2>for the CIA, and Fifth tries to distance himself, but

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<v Speaker 2>Matt introduces recorded testimony from Christophe, the ship's first mate.

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<v Speaker 2>In the video, he confirms that the Northern Star was

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<v Speaker 2>carrying military grade legal weapons and reveals that the crew

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<v Speaker 2>had direct orders to sink the vessel if they ever

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<v Speaker 2>were compromised. More importantly, he identifies Fisk as the man

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<v Speaker 2>behind the operation. Even as the prosecution rushes to discredit

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<v Speaker 2>the testimony, the balance in the courtroom has already shifted.

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<v Speaker 2>They are, you know, for the first time on record,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with someone of credibility has targeted and made

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<v Speaker 2>people doubt and question as mayor fis operating above board. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and even the judge at this point is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's trying to the data is trying to strike everything down.

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<v Speaker 2>The judge like, you know what, I kind of want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear this now, No that this works, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this control of the court room and everything else, everything

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<v Speaker 2>is starting to unravel at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So Matt keeps on pushing, keeps on staying on offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Using his own statements, he establishes that Daredevil was present

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<v Speaker 1>on the Northern Star that night, and there is still

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<v Speaker 1>one witness who's left to testify. Now. Prior to this,

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of deal with, you know, some things that

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<v Speaker 1>weren't necessarily going right there. But during that time, Fits

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<v Speaker 1>whispered very very at a low tone so that mac

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<v Speaker 1>I will basically saying I will expose you. And so Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>here's that. You know, you wonder at that point is

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, you're a fool, very quietly, and Fis

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<v Speaker 1>to the courtroom to say it the other witness that

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<v Speaker 1>was there that hasn't been questions that I am Daredevil

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<v Speaker 1>and like the DA's like, that's ridiculous. They're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>that at that point, questioning whether anyone's put to believe

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<v Speaker 1>a blind man is a lawyer. But Matt said, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. I expected this, takes takes his his cane

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<v Speaker 1>and turns it into the baton and does ricochets it

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<v Speaker 1>off of it and catches it without missing a beat,

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<v Speaker 1>just shocking everyone in the room. You know, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>people kind of comparing it to the you know, Tony

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<v Speaker 1>I am Iron Man. This was a lot more theatrical.

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<v Speaker 2>This to me taught the I am iron Man is iconic,

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<v Speaker 2>but just for the sheer spectacle of it, this tops it.

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<v Speaker 2>So not only is he like I'm Darren will in

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<v Speaker 2>the courtroom of erupts the das like this is bs well,

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<v Speaker 2>The other half is cheering. Officer Palgo is just smiling

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<v Speaker 2>because he feels a little bit vindicated right now that

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<v Speaker 2>he goes humh blind lawyer who can fight, Like, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say he'd be more embarrassed at that point

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<v Speaker 1>if it were him. You know, it's it's still got

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<v Speaker 2>You know, oh he caught hands regardless, but at least

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<v Speaker 2>he could say, yeah, I got it from Daredevil, not

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, whatever works for him, where we got

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<v Speaker 1>his keep, people put whatever justification for his name exactly so.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna take our first ad break before we

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<v Speaker 1>as we head into this we, you know, after that revelation,

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<v Speaker 1>to hide out the weapons, use freeports through their advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>the system created by Fisk never designed to serve justice.

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<v Speaker 1>It was designed to protect him and serve to enrich him.

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<v Speaker 1>And the judge agrees and at that point he said, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>first time in a long time. Fist loses in public

416
00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and loses in amazing fashion.

417
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Yep, this is great. And for those of you who

418
00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:57.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know, if a case is dismissed with prejudice, that

419
00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:00.640
<v Speaker 2>means that the prosecution cannot bring the case back to

420
00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:01.480
<v Speaker 2>be retried.

421
00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:03.519
<v Speaker 1>So this is done.

422
00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Karen is scott free that there is no Hey, we're

423
00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:09.839
<v Speaker 2>gonna try this again in a different legal loophole, whatever else.

424
00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:13.279
<v Speaker 2>It's done. She's she's in the eyes of the court.

425
00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Karen's get to go.

426
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:20.039
<v Speaker 1>Yep. So outside the courthouse, Governor McCaffrey says the Attorney

427
00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:23.920
<v Speaker 1>General has filed charges against Fist for racketeering, corruption, smuggling,

428
00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and attempted murder. His assets are frozen. The free Portois

429
00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:32.200
<v Speaker 1>sees resignation is offered as his only real option and

430
00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:36.759
<v Speaker 1>fists like, nah, yeah, you can't just do that to me.

431
00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:42.279
<v Speaker 1>There's there's process with this. And so soon after, near

432
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the courthouse enters Powell alerts the a VTF agent who

433
00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:47.559
<v Speaker 1>is in the building across the street, to prepare to

434
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:50.319
<v Speaker 1>shoot Matt, but Bullseye makes it clear on the radio

435
00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:53.319
<v Speaker 1>that that other agent is not with us. In so

436
00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:57.799
<v Speaker 1>many different ways, Shape reforms attempting another assassination. He shoots

437
00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:01.680
<v Speaker 1>in fist direction, but buck takes the bullet as he

438
00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:04.279
<v Speaker 1>was always meant to do, stepping in front of it,

439
00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:08.799
<v Speaker 1>and right as Powell says it's a trap, chaos ensues,

440
00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:12.440
<v Speaker 1>gets that that's exactly what he needs, an excuse.

441
00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, it's so funny. They're walking out of

442
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:21.519
<v Speaker 2>court and Matt Karen and just to leave on opposite side,

443
00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:24.000
<v Speaker 2>fisting his group leave on opposite sides. But they meet

444
00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:25.640
<v Speaker 2>in the lobby of this place and they have this

445
00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:29.480
<v Speaker 2>intense stare down and that's when Powell says, pretty loudly

446
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:32.799
<v Speaker 2>in public, you know, hey, he's coming out, take the

447
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:36.000
<v Speaker 2>shot if you got it. And that's when Bullseye says, yeah, wrong,

448
00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:41.279
<v Speaker 2>bulls eye and makes makes his shot instead. You know,

449
00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:44.400
<v Speaker 2>poor Bucket gets it caught in the stomach, just when

450
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:46.839
<v Speaker 2>he was having his budding romance with Heather.

451
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Take off. They can get where they can get weird

452
00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>with that, you know, I would assume. So he immediately

453
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:57.799
<v Speaker 1>goes on television and declares New York under siege, framing

454
00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>the day's events as proof that Vigilanti and the supporters

455
00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>are attacking the city. He calls for order, but what

456
00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:08.799
<v Speaker 1>he's really doing is starting a war hidden away in

457
00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the other court offices with Matt, Jessica, Kirsten, Marge.

458
00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Karen realizes if this is provoking an open conflict, he's good.

459
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:18.759
<v Speaker 1>If they're not careful, they're going to give him what

460
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:19.640
<v Speaker 1>he's looking for.

461
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Now.

462
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:22.880
<v Speaker 1>As protesters start floating the streets, they all start putting

463
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Daredevil mass on, you know, very infantis of like V

464
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:30.839
<v Speaker 1>for Vendetta, showing the support. This order is that Matt

465
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.799
<v Speaker 1>and Karen cannot leave the courthouse alive. Inside match suits

466
00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:38.799
<v Speaker 1>up again. Jessica Jones joins him, and together they prepare

467
00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:42.079
<v Speaker 1>for an epic, epic, epic hallway fight.

468
00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah this this was cool, you know them Jessica brought

469
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Matt suit through it at him, you know, he he

470
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:55.839
<v Speaker 2>gets changed. Everyone seemed like, yeah, this is him in

471
00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.559
<v Speaker 2>full Daredevil display. I like the moment with fish take

472
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:05.039
<v Speaker 2>fist took over the judges seating to make his little

473
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>live broadcast because there was still pressed there. And then

474
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:13.680
<v Speaker 2>immediately after BB reveals, she puts out her own BB

475
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 2>report and reveals it was her, but just that Hey, he's.

476
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Me Berry, it was Meg Wilson. It was me.

477
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:24.200
<v Speaker 2>He killed my uncle. He killed my man.

478
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:29.079
<v Speaker 1>He got it go. Yeah, she she she definitely like that,

479
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:31.799
<v Speaker 1>like that subtle like then she has that sudden revelation

480
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.799
<v Speaker 1>it was her, but you know it was necessary. Yeah.

481
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Then we get Cherry, remember Cherry still alive and Brett

482
00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Mahoney stand with the police against fists Anti Vigilante Task Force.

483
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Powell tries to escalate the confrontation, and but you get

484
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Hector's niece out there calling him out, saying, you need

485
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 1>to tell the truth. You killed my uncle, you killed Hector.

486
00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:02.160
<v Speaker 1>And then North is just like I thought you said,

487
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>this is like no, no, no worry about it. It's

488
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 1>like that, and he gets tired of it, and then

489
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>just kind of what does he do just clock him

490
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:10.720
<v Speaker 1>or with.

491
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he takes he turns, takes above the gun and

492
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:15.200
<v Speaker 2>just pops him right in the side of the head.

493
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I'm enough of your lies.

494
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And this is where I kind of I was.

495
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I was not necessarily feeling this all of a sudden,

496
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>like they say, okay, just let him through. So one

497
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.920
<v Speaker 1>action like that's going to turn the entire group of

498
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>a v TF agents out there saying, oh sounds like

499
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>he made a reasonable argument. Good. Well because even Fifth

500
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:36.839
<v Speaker 1>said before they even got out there and Daredevil's on

501
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:40.599
<v Speaker 1>his way and it's like, yeah, he's not alone. It's like, well,

502
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>you can make a decision whether to uh do your

503
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:47.359
<v Speaker 1>job or or or leave and he probably was gonna

504
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>leave alive at that point. It's just like there we

505
00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>needed to see a few more cracks in the a

506
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.279
<v Speaker 1>v TF just to buy that they're they're worthy. It

507
00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>just didn't seem that this was this wasn't as well

508
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>thought out they amost seems like there were scenes missing.

509
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:06.240
<v Speaker 2>I will agree with that. It was very archaic in

510
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.640
<v Speaker 2>North hits pow with the gun is like, oh, you

511
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:12.119
<v Speaker 2>beat our leader, you're the new leader. Now we all

512
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:12.640
<v Speaker 2>follow you.

513
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's yeah, So minor quibble, but still it it

514
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>was one of those Okay, we're going to capitalize on Yeah, Daredevil,

515
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.319
<v Speaker 1>let's go. Yeah, that could happen. But you know, as

516
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>everyone's been so gung ho about like going against you know,

517
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>vigilanteism and things like that, and you know, we know

518
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>what the ABTF is really about in the reality of

519
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:38.079
<v Speaker 1>our world, but it just seemed like, really that one

520
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 1>thing's going to really turn it in. Man, you guys

521
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>are don't understand the idea about commitment and loyalty. Yeah.

522
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:49.079
<v Speaker 1>So inside the courthouse, chaos and erups. Protesters clashed with

523
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:53.799
<v Speaker 1>the Task Force agents. Karen fights, Jessica Jones fights, Matt's

524
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:58.119
<v Speaker 1>fighting like everyone's throwing hands, and you know, David's living

525
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:03.799
<v Speaker 1>in his glory moments at that point and so physticides.

526
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting out of the action, bust open the door

527
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and goes boom boom and just unleashes the I mean

528
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>we've seen king Pin and Daredevil fight, That's one thing

529
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>we've seen him go like a we have never seen

530
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>this amount of just like chaos that he's doing. I mean,

531
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they really I don't think they did

532
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:27.559
<v Speaker 1>this to this extent on the Netflix show.

533
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.559
<v Speaker 2>No that this was the most we Like I said,

534
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:35.559
<v Speaker 2>we've seen them go back and forth, but this was

535
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:38.559
<v Speaker 2>a whole new version of Fisk. And I mean he's

536
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>picking people off, breaking people's backs against the wall.

537
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.599
<v Speaker 1>Like jais snapping next. I mean, these are civilians.

538
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:50.559
<v Speaker 2>He was full on just like yeah, I'm taking everybody out.

539
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, peep, peop. These these are fans that are saying,

540
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:58.039
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I'm gonna take down Fish. I could see

541
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>this literally happening and be like, dude, no, I wouldn't

542
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>say running for the hills at this point, but it's

543
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.079
<v Speaker 1>like you gotta read the room.

544
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:10.839
<v Speaker 2>So there's one part where he takes out one of

545
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:13.480
<v Speaker 2>the guys in the hallway I think, like squeezes his

546
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>head and drops him. Yeah, and there's another dude right

547
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.839
<v Speaker 2>behind him and he just like charges up with a

548
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.519
<v Speaker 2>war cry and runs at fists. I'm like, you just

549
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:23.359
<v Speaker 2>saw what happened to your man's over here?

550
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Why are you He's going out? He's going the burnhal cry.

551
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:30.480
<v Speaker 2>This is not how this works.

552
00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Can't particular in fisk. I'm a Vanessa. If I say

553
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>that word to you, Vanessa, No, that was just making it.

554
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:40.519
<v Speaker 1>I'll make it me more mad. You go, you go

555
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a hulk mode on that one. Yeah, he went full

556
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Kingpin like this was It was a very This is

557
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:47.839
<v Speaker 1>definitely one of my favorite scenes in it, just to

558
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>see Kingpin really just go full on out that we

559
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 1>know what he's been holding back this entire time.

560
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

561
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh So eventually they get out into the main Fourier era.

562
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 1>You see like Daredevil Karen Jessica like staring up along

563
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of other the protesters, they run up,

564
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>they start beating on Fisk, and MAT's like, no, not

565
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:13.000
<v Speaker 1>like this, don't do like it's like, oh my gosh,

566
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>come home, man, I'm not That was another thing. No,

567
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>it can't be this way. It's just like, I do

568
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you honestly think they're going to really do any damage

569
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.759
<v Speaker 1>to Kingpin. They may like kind of slow them down,

570
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:26.079
<v Speaker 1>but they ain't doing anything.

571
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:29.880
<v Speaker 2>They they got him at one point. Now granted there

572
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>was ale, this is by time he made it down.

573
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:34.880
<v Speaker 2>This my point, Yeah, that he had made it down

574
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>the steps, he had already killed a bunch of people.

575
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:40.200
<v Speaker 2>They through the whole gang at him finally just start

576
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:44.000
<v Speaker 2>just straight up school yard jumping them. But he was

577
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:46.519
<v Speaker 2>still like, hey, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to

578
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 2>do this. Like fits was not backing down. I don't

579
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:50.279
<v Speaker 2>care how many people y'all sent.

580
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is where you know, you know, prior to this,

581
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>he's gotten another offer from the from the Attorney General

582
00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>to saying nope, not taking it, not gonna step down.

583
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is where, you know, the where the

584
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.359
<v Speaker 1>finale makes makes a choice saying Matt doesn't end this

585
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 1>with Raves, he ends in with mercy. You know. He

586
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>tells this the truth that if he keeps fighting, the

587
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>cycle will never stop. Prison means losing Vanessa forever. Revenge

588
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>means destroying the city they both claim to love. Then

589
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Matt offers him something This doesn't know how to accept, grace.

590
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:28.599
<v Speaker 1>At first rejects it. He says Matt has no right

591
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>to offer him grace to him, but Matt insists peace

592
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>for the city matters more than peace for themselves. And

593
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.079
<v Speaker 1>finally This says yes, no handshake, no redemption, just surrender.

594
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Another issue I have with this. I get this is

595
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>part of Matt's you know, Matt's character. Okay, I'm sorry.

596
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:55.079
<v Speaker 1>I never really ever thought that Fists loves New York

597
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 1>City to the think that Matt's thing like he loves

598
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>his No, he loves New York City because it's a

599
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:05.039
<v Speaker 1>place that he is riddled with corruption, riddled with things

600
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of crime, that he can run like power.

601
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:12.400
<v Speaker 1>It has nothing to do with love of the city.

602
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>That's where I know what they were doing. But I,

603
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, being the confident I am and knowing who

604
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Kingpin is, I'm not saying they don't. This doesn't land

605
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>for me the way they wanted to land for those

606
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>of us that understand what's going on.

607
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's not here for the beautiful brown Stones or

608
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>the look over a Central Park or anything like that.

609
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 2>He wants the power, the control. This is one of

610
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:39.519
<v Speaker 2>the largest cities, This is a hub, and this is

611
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:43.199
<v Speaker 2>him being in control of this focal point city and

612
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.320
<v Speaker 2>him standing above everyone else.

613
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Because again, if if it was about that, then he

614
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>just railed down a whole bunch of people he should

615
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>be loving, you know. So yeah, that that didn't That

616
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 1>didn't land for me, that one. So you call that

617
00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>a hot taker. And now I know what, I know

618
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>what they were trying to get at. I don't think

619
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:05.119
<v Speaker 1>that was the way to do it. So he accepts

620
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the deal. Basically, I guess the deal is that he

621
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.760
<v Speaker 1>leaves the city loses his citizenship. I didn't know that

622
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.159
<v Speaker 1>was kind of a thing. They could just just rip

623
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>away at that moment, you know, yeahs.

624
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Go anywhere else other than New York, Like, do you

625
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:26.880
<v Speaker 2>have citizenship to just New York? Is this symbolic citizens Yeah?

626
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm confused.

627
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Banned from the state like the Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters too

628
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>were supposed to be you know. I was like, that's

629
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:36.760
<v Speaker 1>a thing I mean, I don't know the law of

630
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 1>that one. Soone if someone says, yes, that's the thing,

631
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>is said, okay, I except that it just it just seems

632
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>so like extravagant. At that point, I thought, that's what

633
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 1>jail is.

634
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Like, does Jersey count like can you just like go

635
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.599
<v Speaker 2>across the bridge and you get like, I'm so confused.

636
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is a garden state. Garden state for

637
00:35:54.480 --> 00:36:00.639
<v Speaker 1>grown smokestacks. Yes. So next morning was quiet in a

638
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>way that you know, they we haven't seen it in

639
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:05.599
<v Speaker 1>a while. Matt and Karen are together trying to imagine

640
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:10.519
<v Speaker 1>what normal life feels like after everything they've done. It's awkward, honest, hopeful.

641
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>They admit that they've made a mess of everything very

642
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>much so and decided to try anyways. You know, we

643
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>we leave. You know, they're they're chatting in this quiet

644
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:26.280
<v Speaker 1>little diner's face and then I see Mac and on

645
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>one knee and I'm so. I know there were a

646
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>number of people, lots of people say, oh, he's gonna

647
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:36.639
<v Speaker 1>propose a good process, and ah ah, I saw that headshilt.

648
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:39.239
<v Speaker 1>He hears something and I know what's coming. At that point,

649
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>he's getting arrested and he gets down on his knees,

650
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:44.920
<v Speaker 1>puts his hand behind his head because he's getting arrested

651
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>for the crimes of Daredevil. Basically just being a vigilantine

652
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>causing chaos. Yeah, you know, and this was what you know,

653
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:55.159
<v Speaker 1>we both that I can't remember if it was you

654
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 1>or me or something like that, that we're gonna get

655
00:36:56.639 --> 00:37:03.559
<v Speaker 1>a devil and silblock d you know, you in the courtroom,

656
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:06.679
<v Speaker 1>you get you got your factor of fiction that you

657
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>put out there that Matt was going to reveal himself

658
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:11.719
<v Speaker 1>in order to save Karen gold Star for you too.

659
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:17.519
<v Speaker 1>But this was this was the inevitability. You know, this

660
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:21.559
<v Speaker 1>is this is what happens, has happened at Daredevil a

661
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 1>number of times, but particularly in the Vendus and Brubaker run.

662
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:28.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, he goes to jail for the crimes of Daredevil.

663
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that they're going to be you know,

664
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:34.639
<v Speaker 1>like our Brethern, no Rikik versus. This is not going

665
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.280
<v Speaker 1>to go away by waiving doctor Strange and forgetting things.

666
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.920
<v Speaker 1>At this point, this was this was the way this

667
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 1>season had to end. You know, we we knew the

668
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Mayor Fist line was going to be concluded. I was

669
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 1>hoping we were going to get Devil and Cell Block D,

670
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:55.599
<v Speaker 1>which we're going to get. The question is for how

671
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:58.639
<v Speaker 1>long is he going to be in jail for? But

672
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>we get conclusions in his towards the future. We get

673
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Jessica reuniting with Luke Cage and alias investigations. First twenty

674
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty six prediction for our prediction show counted for me.

675
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Prediction was another another defender would be in this show

676
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:19.599
<v Speaker 1>that we didn't already know about. We already knew about

677
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Jessica Jones, we didn't know about anyone else officially in

678
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>this one. We knew we saw the reveal for the

679
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.199
<v Speaker 1>set photos of that one, but there still was no

680
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>confirmation at that point. But this is what I got.

681
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Yep, No, you got one on the board. Luke Cage

682
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:41.119
<v Speaker 2>walks in. They lack guys. He says he's he's done

683
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 2>with this stuff from mister Charles. Now it's it's all

684
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:47.199
<v Speaker 2>wrapped up. It's you know, what he saw over there

685
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:50.880
<v Speaker 2>changed him. But he's home now. And you know you

686
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:55.599
<v Speaker 2>see Danielle like run and say daddy, and jess Gass's

687
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:58.119
<v Speaker 2>look on her face, she's glad he's home. And they

688
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 2>just allgive this one big embrace.

689
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Yep, And like I said, the Aliens investigations is back

690
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and open. BB is now joining the Oh what's the

691
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:13.360
<v Speaker 1>name the bulletin? The bulletin? Yeah, I want to say, Bogle.

692
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:18.079
<v Speaker 1>It's not the Beagles, Yeah, the bulletin. We get him

693
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:22.800
<v Speaker 1>handing over, you know, Yurick's legacy box at that point,

694
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.679
<v Speaker 1>so she's going to continue on his what she learned

695
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:29.320
<v Speaker 1>from him. Then we get mister Charles in an airplane

696
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and who's right next to him as a sea partner, Bullseye.

697
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>That's who he got replaced grooming. He's far from finish, Heather.

698
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>And as I write here in our notes, in one

699
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 1>of the most disturbing revelations that really we've been sinking

700
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:47.599
<v Speaker 1>for a while. And yes, after all this stuff, I

701
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:49.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of saw what people were saying, Oh that was

702
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>revealed in this sad photos that we're going to get.

703
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:56.760
<v Speaker 1>She is taking over the mask amuse you know. And

704
00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I have to say, kind of being a little cliche

705
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:03.039
<v Speaker 1>with the psych collegists not necessarily falling fur their their

706
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I know mus wasn't a patient, but just basically, man,

707
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you went all cliche on this one.

708
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you become your attacker. Now. Funny enough, I had

709
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:14.760
<v Speaker 2>mentioned that I had had some fact for fictions that

710
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.719
<v Speaker 2>to scrap you to certain things. This was one that

711
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:20.239
<v Speaker 2>I had to scrap because I had it written down

712
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:22.039
<v Speaker 2>in my notes. I was counting down to it. I

713
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:26.119
<v Speaker 2>was like, cool, and then I saw one of the

714
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:28.840
<v Speaker 2>set photos. You know, I was trying to avoid to

715
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.920
<v Speaker 2>put Unfortunately, if someone puts on Instagram, that's much harder

716
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:35.039
<v Speaker 2>to avoid than Twitter. I saw it and I was like, well,

717
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.039
<v Speaker 2>now I got to scratch that out because people think

718
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:38.760
<v Speaker 2>I just saw the set photos and went with the

719
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:40.960
<v Speaker 2>low hanging fruit, but that was that was in my

720
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.519
<v Speaker 2>nose for a while to use. Yeah, I had one

721
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.760
<v Speaker 2>of those until you know, I felt okay and the

722
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:50.159
<v Speaker 2>clear about looking at uh you know post season three,

723
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:51.880
<v Speaker 2>and you know one of mine was going to be

724
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.360
<v Speaker 2>this week that you know, we I this was low

725
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:56.679
<v Speaker 2>hanging for it if I really needed something and saying

726
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:59.360
<v Speaker 2>this was going to return in it. And so I

727
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:03.679
<v Speaker 2>see that Santa Claus is back in the city with him.

728
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:06.480
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Fiscus exile from power. He's alone at the

729
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:09.920
<v Speaker 2>sea that is in prison, wearing orange waiting with a

730
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 2>smirk on his face, which is also from the comics too,

731
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:18.360
<v Speaker 2>where he's getting taken in and the light is like

732
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't help, but notice that when the verdict was done,

733
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:26.840
<v Speaker 2>you kind of smiled that you were found guilty. Yeah,

734
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:30.440
<v Speaker 2>he knew exactly what his fate was, even said when

735
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:33.280
<v Speaker 2>he got arrested, like they're coming for the crimes of Daredevil.

736
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:34.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, he went patiently.

737
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I did.

738
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Like, you know, he's walking in and he passes Pal

739
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:40.719
<v Speaker 2>who's already in the jail, and you know, he kind

740
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 2>of gets that smark like, yeah, you ain't safe here neither.

741
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.159
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like, oh, you're in there with them,

742
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:49.519
<v Speaker 1>and say no, they're in here with me. You know,

743
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.639
<v Speaker 1>that's basically what he's thinking. You know, it would have

744
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:55.679
<v Speaker 1>been cool. I agree. It would have been cool to

745
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:58.639
<v Speaker 1>see if Fish also went to jail and they're all

746
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.639
<v Speaker 1>in there, and it's basically kind of like tribalism at

747
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:04.119
<v Speaker 1>that point where he had those on Daredevil side versus

748
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the one the Fifth Empire, you know, that was that

749
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>would have been a different way. But just being exiled,

750
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that was okay. I I would have people already. You know,

751
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:19.199
<v Speaker 1>we technically, I guess had this, but because of the blip,

752
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.280
<v Speaker 1>we never really got to see Fisk in prison, so

753
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, I get it, but I would have liked

754
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:27.280
<v Speaker 1>to have kind of delved into that idea of Fisk

755
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:29.360
<v Speaker 1>in prison at this point. But you know, we know

756
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.440
<v Speaker 1>he's coming back, we know there, you know he's gonna

757
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:35.079
<v Speaker 1>be in season three. But you know, all in all,

758
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:41.519
<v Speaker 1>this definitely landed very very well, much better ending than

759
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the than how you know, the season was much better

760
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>put together outside of you know, the one episode we

761
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of liked, the one episode I wasn't on that

762
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>was an email episode. But as a whole, this was

763
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:57.320
<v Speaker 1>a much better season.

764
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, much much better so.

765
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>But but we do have a question kind of related

766
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to this in our listener feedback, So we're going to

767
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>take our last ad break for the show so that

768
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:11.599
<v Speaker 1>we can answer that as we tie into like where

769
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:12.880
<v Speaker 1>do you rank this? Where do you rank this? So

770
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the questions. So, as always listeners, you

771
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:17.880
<v Speaker 1>know that these ads help keep the lights on of

772
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:20.039
<v Speaker 1>the geeg Alsimate Alliance Network. We don't get cheops on ads.

773
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Come on, they could be a bit loud. To give

774
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>it a three count before they come on, three two one,

775
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back, and we are back all right,

776
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:33.199
<v Speaker 1>so I put out the spider signal as usual, there

777
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:35.639
<v Speaker 1>is no news this week obviously, you know they're basking

778
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:39.159
<v Speaker 1>in the glory of Daredevil Born Again. So who do

779
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:41.639
<v Speaker 1>we got coming at us with a question? All right?

780
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Dorsey sent in a question that says, now that

781
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:48.480
<v Speaker 2>the story that began in season one has wrapped up

782
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 2>in come full circle, where would you rank this show

783
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:56.440
<v Speaker 2>as if season Born Again? Season one and season two

784
00:43:56.559 --> 00:44:01.199
<v Speaker 2>were one full season compared to the Netflix's three seasons.

785
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Since we had such a shortened season in you know, Netflix,

786
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 2>each season got a little bit of a longer run.

787
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:11.159
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna and you know, season one was kind of

788
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:13.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, cut and pace. We're gonna count it as

789
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:17.159
<v Speaker 2>one whole season and then compare it to the three

790
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:18.280
<v Speaker 2>seasons of Netflix.

791
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I remember when they was announcer Daredevil Born Again

792
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:24.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty four at what was it like? It was something crazy?

793
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:26.400
<v Speaker 1>It was it was something.

794
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like twenty two or twenty four episodes.

795
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:29.760
<v Speaker 2>It was up there and we were like.

796
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Whoa, whoa, We're gonna go a year oh year Daredevil.

797
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, pumping into my veins, but.

798
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Give me the content machine, But damn.

799
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we were going back to the nineties

800
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and the genially two thousands were happening that. But yeah, okay,

801
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>so so this whole born that's been lost isn't okay,

802
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>So all right, this might be a hot take, but

803
00:44:57.679 --> 00:44:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and call it just because I got so much of

804
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.639
<v Speaker 1>I really liked and seeing you know, if you're gonna

805
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.840
<v Speaker 1>shoot your shot, to shoot your shot. I still rank

806
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Daredevil Season two is my top I do I love

807
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:16.679
<v Speaker 1>I love bringing in the Punisher, I enjoy the Electra stuff.

808
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Some people have problems that that's fine. I still I

809
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>like season two is my top choice, followed by season

810
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:36.039
<v Speaker 1>one of the Netflix show. And it's because it's kind

811
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:38.519
<v Speaker 1>of hard because I've been the one of the people

812
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:41.400
<v Speaker 1>saying it's really hard to compare, Like, we're not gonning,

813
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:44.119
<v Speaker 1>this is not the Netflix show. Born Against Born Again

814
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:45.679
<v Speaker 1>is not the Netflix show. Is never trying to be

815
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the netflo it's trying to capture the ideas of it,

816
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 1>but was never going to be the Netflix show. So

817
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:55.719
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of hard to compare them. But and so

818
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:57.599
<v Speaker 1>this is where it gets a little unfair. But I

819
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:04.880
<v Speaker 1>will say that I think Born Again is my third

820
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:07.559
<v Speaker 1>and season three and season three of the Netflix shows

821
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:11.360
<v Speaker 1>is rank last doesn't mean it's bad. It's just if

822
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I had to choose at that point what i'd watch

823
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:18.039
<v Speaker 1>it more through, I'd probably choose Born Again before season three.

824
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.599
<v Speaker 2>So you have not seen my notes. We have not

825
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:26.039
<v Speaker 2>talked about this. My list is exactly the same. Can

826
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:30.679
<v Speaker 2>corroborate this, because yes, Brent and I had a conversation

827
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 2>about this two weeks ago, and he judged me for

828
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:36.360
<v Speaker 2>season two being ahead of it. I said, I cannot

829
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.880
<v Speaker 2>dismiss the fun that I had with the Punisher, the

830
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:41.880
<v Speaker 2>seeing the scene of Frank tied up with the gun,

831
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, everything that happened. And I said that one

832
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:49.360
<v Speaker 2>had two incredible one shot fights. It had Dared Devil's

833
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:52.960
<v Speaker 2>going up against the biker gang, and then it had

834
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:56.719
<v Speaker 2>the one in the prison with Frank. I'm like, that

835
00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:00.679
<v Speaker 2>was so much for me. My original ranking before before

836
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:07.320
<v Speaker 2>this question was two one season two of Born Again.

837
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Season three of the Netflix. Season one of Born Again.

838
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 2>That was my original ranking, as I told Brent two

839
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:19.480
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, and I said, card subject to change because

840
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 2>the season hadn't ended. So I'm combining those. I still

841
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:27.760
<v Speaker 2>have this season at number three because I have to

842
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.840
<v Speaker 2>take into account what happened in season one. But when

843
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:33.320
<v Speaker 2>it comes to season three of the Netflix, although I

844
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:36.960
<v Speaker 2>like it, I feel like some of the Agent Nadeem

845
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:42.039
<v Speaker 2>stuff really drug it down at points, and like the

846
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.199
<v Speaker 2>ending was your at the ending fights, Oh yes, yeah,

847
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:47.519
<v Speaker 2>it just some of the pacing. I was like, let

848
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:50.719
<v Speaker 2>let's let's get to the action. Let's speed this up.

849
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:53.840
<v Speaker 2>It had some cool moments. We spent a lot of

850
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:57.079
<v Speaker 2>time with Dexa's inner psyche and you know, here and

851
00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 2>there was good, but we spent like almost a whole

852
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.079
<v Speaker 2>episode on him stalking a girl like so between that

853
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:04.519
<v Speaker 2>and the Deemed stuff and things like that, it just

854
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:08.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't have that pool for me, as season two was

855
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:11.559
<v Speaker 2>just completely shoot it in my veins fan service. Of

856
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:15.360
<v Speaker 2>the things that I like, season one was amazing got

857
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:18.280
<v Speaker 2>me hooked. I still vividly remember the first time I

858
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:21.800
<v Speaker 2>saw the end of episode four, like it was just greatness.

859
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I also want to you know again, I

860
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:28.800
<v Speaker 1>have very similar I think if I were to break

861
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.119
<v Speaker 1>up the seasons yet, season one and Born Again is

862
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:34.239
<v Speaker 1>going to be last, just because of the disjointness of it.

863
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Season three, I'm with you. It was some great character stuff.

864
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>But I think that it almost got it almost was

865
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.639
<v Speaker 1>trying to double down in season one, like it was

866
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 1>trying to bring it back to you know, as we

867
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:50.639
<v Speaker 1>always joke around back to formula, and I know what

868
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:55.280
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to do post the Defenders, and this was

869
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:57.519
<v Speaker 1>that was their born again, you know, that was the

870
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:02.119
<v Speaker 1>born against storyline in a way, just I mean for

871
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of loud. We didn't even get we got him

872
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:05.559
<v Speaker 1>back in the we didn't eve get him back in

873
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the Dared double suit. We had decks in the Dared

874
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Double suit, and Matt never wore it again, you know,

875
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:14.760
<v Speaker 1>at all that season. And so there I had more

876
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.079
<v Speaker 1>like saying, oh, you know, I know what you're trying

877
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:19.159
<v Speaker 1>to do, but especially when we found out this was

878
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:20.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the end, is like we didn't know we

879
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:26.559
<v Speaker 1>were gonna get Born again. So yeah, no, it's I

880
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:29.280
<v Speaker 1>did not know that that you're also a fan of

881
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:32.360
<v Speaker 1>season two, because I take the whole thing where you know,

882
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:34.840
<v Speaker 1>a big fan of Jack Snyder. Zack Snyder said it

883
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.119
<v Speaker 1>best if you've got a if you you don't know

884
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:38.679
<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna get this, so you got to shoot

885
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:41.719
<v Speaker 1>your shot for it. I think season two season one

886
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 1>was perfect concept. Well, guess what we're gonna We're gonna

887
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:47.159
<v Speaker 1>do this right now and put the biggest two biggest

888
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>things that are tied to Dared double Electra pun sure

889
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:53.000
<v Speaker 1>in him. Did they I'm not saying it was done perfectly,

890
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:56.360
<v Speaker 1>not saying it is a perfect season, but what they

891
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:59.960
<v Speaker 1>gave me was something was something that's saying, oh right,

892
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I can feel this. I they they're they're getting They're

893
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:04.599
<v Speaker 1>getting enough of the beats right that I can I

894
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.239
<v Speaker 1>can see what you're doing. But yeah, no, thank you

895
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>for asking the question, Anthony. Good question. So, well, before

896
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.960
<v Speaker 1>we close out our Daredevil stuff, the season as a whole,

897
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:16.280
<v Speaker 1>out of ten, what do you rank this.

898
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Out of ten? Right now? I am going to put

899
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:29.320
<v Speaker 2>it at an eight point five. Maybe once I view

900
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:34.199
<v Speaker 2>it all again in a vacuum, I will then bump

901
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 2>it up a little bit more. Uh. But I do

902
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.000
<v Speaker 2>think that there were some times that it was just

903
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:43.320
<v Speaker 2>a little bit too slow for me, but some of

904
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:45.840
<v Speaker 2>the the action scenes at times that it was great

905
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:49.519
<v Speaker 2>and it was riveting or amazing. Like I said, episode four,

906
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:53.840
<v Speaker 2>that gloves off episode was amazing. I love the way

907
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:57.119
<v Speaker 2>that this ended, and you know, some of the but

908
00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:59.199
<v Speaker 2>it also had its weird and there's a whole lot

909
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:01.440
<v Speaker 2>of choking. This show's got its kink.

910
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly so, but yeah, I'm gonna rank it at

911
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:11.000
<v Speaker 1>A seven point seven six two three. Shout out to

912
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:12.760
<v Speaker 1>my best friend Chuck at that point. You know, we

913
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:14.760
<v Speaker 1>got to do those numbers, Chuck though, Yes, we gotta

914
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:17.119
<v Speaker 1>go crunch you know, we we to him, we we

915
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:20.480
<v Speaker 1>have crunchy numbers we've got. This show is crunchy to him.

916
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:26.719
<v Speaker 1>So but yeah, seven points seven six two three. I

917
00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:29.679
<v Speaker 1>don't put it at a just because of a lot

918
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.119
<v Speaker 1>of different things there. But again, a much better season

919
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:36.320
<v Speaker 1>than than season one. As we constantly have said. Tonight

920
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:42.079
<v Speaker 1>and I know we both are very excited for the Punisher,

921
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:46.119
<v Speaker 1>one last kill. We are gonna break that down unless

922
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 1>some major news breaks next week. It is I think

923
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:50.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a ninety minute show or a little bit under

924
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:53.679
<v Speaker 1>ninety minutes. I think that's there. Yeah, so that's what

925
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:56.119
<v Speaker 1>we're only. Basically, it's like a little movie. So we're

926
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:58.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna doing, you know, a little movie in the middle

927
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.599
<v Speaker 1>of the week. So uh so, very excited about that.

928
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:09.880
<v Speaker 1>But as we conclude, our are looking see at for

929
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:14.239
<v Speaker 1>fact or fiction, So we pull those up. All right,

930
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.199
<v Speaker 1>these actually did work. I don't know what happened last week.

931
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I know there was voting going on with the previous weeks.

932
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:24.079
<v Speaker 1>It just somehow everything went to zero. Not this week, thankfully.

933
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:27.559
<v Speaker 1>All right, these were years from last week. Matt will

934
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:30.920
<v Speaker 1>sacrifice his identity to save Karen in the finale Daredevil

935
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Born Against season two, So we know that was true.

936
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Eighty five percent said fact, fifteen percent in fiction number two.

937
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:40.360
<v Speaker 1>We will get a very nick cage over the top

938
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:44.639
<v Speaker 1>spider bite in Spider Noir eighty three percent in fact,

939
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:49.360
<v Speaker 1>seventeen percent in fiction. And last, Bull's Eye will return

940
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:52.000
<v Speaker 1>as part of the New Avengers fifty to fifty split.

941
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm surprised because that last one was a stretch

942
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 2>for it at fifty to fifty.

943
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I'll take it, yep, exactly. So all right, so

944
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:11.039
<v Speaker 1>here in mine, Bullseye will returning season three of daredel

945
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Board again in an episode focused on what he has

946
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.199
<v Speaker 1>been doing for mister Trulls. We will get a Bullseye

947
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:21.159
<v Speaker 1>centric episode in season three.

948
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I will say fact on that.

949
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's they have to be careful. I'm I'm I don't.

950
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm still I'm trying to figure out right now where

951
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna lie this. Because I wrote the question, I

952
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:39.639
<v Speaker 1>thought that was one way, and then I started thinking

953
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:42.719
<v Speaker 1>about I don't know, because remember we're dealing with We've

954
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.199
<v Speaker 1>already know the defenders are coming back, They're gonna be

955
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:48.519
<v Speaker 1>doing some crime. Final Matt's in jail. I don't. I

956
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:51.679
<v Speaker 1>don't even have an idea of how long we're gonna

957
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:56.880
<v Speaker 1>be Matt in jail. I don't. I hope it's not

958
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:00.320
<v Speaker 1>half the season. I'm at least gonna go going to

959
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.920
<v Speaker 1>be more than two episodes. I think it's gonna be

960
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:07.119
<v Speaker 1>between three and four episodes. You know that he's gonna

961
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:07.679
<v Speaker 1>be in jail.

962
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Now.

963
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying he's gonna be exonerated, but I think

964
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:12.480
<v Speaker 1>at some point he's gonna get out. You know, I'm

965
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:14.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna spend the whole season in jail because then I

966
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:16.559
<v Speaker 1>think we have another season three of the Netflix show

967
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:19.039
<v Speaker 1>on our hands. Yeah, and as you said, that's not

968
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:25.039
<v Speaker 1>as the best thing. But I will say I will

969
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:31.559
<v Speaker 1>say I don't. I'm gonna say fiction. It will not

970
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:34.960
<v Speaker 1>be an entire episode. It'll be kind of a kind

971
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:38.360
<v Speaker 1>of back and forth episode. You know, Well, there's gonna

972
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:40.679
<v Speaker 1>be ties into it. It will. It will be a

973
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:45.639
<v Speaker 1>half and half kind of thing. So yeah, so number

974
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:49.760
<v Speaker 1>two Doctor Fiction. Number two, Daredevil will don a new

975
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:54.239
<v Speaker 1>version of his suit, fully embracing the d D logo

976
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:58.079
<v Speaker 1>in season three. This was the first time we got

977
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:00.039
<v Speaker 1>this is the first thing. We're going to get the

978
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:02.079
<v Speaker 1>red d D the red We're going to get the

979
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:03.840
<v Speaker 1>red de D logo. We got that, we got the

980
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, the the Home Depot version of the black

981
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:10.679
<v Speaker 1>black suit with the red de dy spray painted, and

982
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:14.880
<v Speaker 1>we're going to get a true version of the red suit. Now.

983
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna go like I'm also a lover of

984
00:55:18.599 --> 00:55:21.440
<v Speaker 1>what Chips Dartsky did when we had like Daredevil in

985
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:25.239
<v Speaker 1>charge of the of in charge of you know, the

986
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:27.320
<v Speaker 1>hand from that run. That was a cool thing with

987
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the beard and everything. I don't think we're going that

988
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:32.079
<v Speaker 1>far yet, but I do think we're going to get

989
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:34.760
<v Speaker 1>a new suit. But it's going to be fully embracing

990
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:36.159
<v Speaker 1>the d d's.

991
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:40.280
<v Speaker 2>I will say fact on that, just because I want it.

992
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:41.159
<v Speaker 2>I want it so much.

993
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm a fact as well, all right. Last one,

994
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:48.920
<v Speaker 1>this might be this. I don't know how people are

995
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:53.360
<v Speaker 1>going to feel about this one. A character is going

996
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:56.199
<v Speaker 1>to come back. I'm not saying the person's going to

997
00:55:56.239 --> 00:56:00.760
<v Speaker 1>redo their role. I know they're going to do their best.

998
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay. If there's a recasting going on, this character

999
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:09.440
<v Speaker 1>cannot stay away from it. It's there directly to Daredevil.

1000
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:16.559
<v Speaker 1>They're one tango dancing. A Elektra will return in season

1001
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:17.480
<v Speaker 1>three of Born Again.

1002
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:25.559
<v Speaker 2>I am going to say fact on that the actress

1003
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:28.039
<v Speaker 2>who plays Electra has been posting a lot of Jim

1004
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:33.639
<v Speaker 2>videos lately, and so I think she's either gearing up

1005
00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:37.719
<v Speaker 2>for a return or she's very heavily politicking for return.

1006
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Again, I would love to have her back, but

1007
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I think the character, again, the characters is too tied

1008
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:48.800
<v Speaker 1>to Daredevil to just like let it lie never come back.

1009
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:51.960
<v Speaker 1>And people say, what about Foggy, Yeah, I have my

1010
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:55.079
<v Speaker 1>problems with Foggy dying. I do. I do have my

1011
00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:57.480
<v Speaker 1>problems with Foggy dying. I understand it was a difference

1012
00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:03.360
<v Speaker 1>between him and him or Karen. I'm not a fan

1013
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:07.800
<v Speaker 1>of Foggy die. Nah. I get why, I just I

1014
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:12.360
<v Speaker 1>don't like it. I agree, so, but yeah, I hope

1015
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Lecture does return, and this one would be It would

1016
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:17.239
<v Speaker 1>be great to see i'd return and forgot a loud.

1017
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:23.559
<v Speaker 1>We got Finn Jones coming back, so anything's possible. But

1018
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:26.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, so I will post those on Sunday afternoons.

1019
00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Lect your voices be heard with that, and let us

1020
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:32.079
<v Speaker 1>continue our com book club age of Ultron number eight.

1021
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:39.599
<v Speaker 1>So they are the alternative future that they just created

1022
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:48.199
<v Speaker 1>as a result of Wolverine killing Hank Pim and then

1023
00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the early two thousands and how we portured women out

1024
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:53.440
<v Speaker 1>to leave it at that with Emma Frost, it's like,

1025
00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:58.440
<v Speaker 1>women don't look like that. Sorry, they don't.

1026
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now that this is still in the power Girl

1027
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:06.800
<v Speaker 2>era of drawing comic book women just very very over

1028
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:11.679
<v Speaker 2>the top and the angles at which they choose to

1029
00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:12.760
<v Speaker 2>draw them as well.

1030
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:16.559
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, besides the point, thank goodness, we have two storm

1031
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.519
<v Speaker 1>being you know, you know at that point, but you

1032
00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:23.079
<v Speaker 1>know Tony Stark, you know, we find out like basically

1033
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:25.360
<v Speaker 1>he's only got half a body. Really, we find out

1034
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:28.000
<v Speaker 1>what was going on with I guess the Morgan le

1035
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:32.519
<v Speaker 1>Fay war that was going on, and they're basically saying

1036
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:35.880
<v Speaker 1>that they're telling the truth. They aren't scrolls. It's an

1037
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:42.039
<v Speaker 1>amazing thing, but really not buying it. And it's an

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00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:45.480
<v Speaker 1>interesting interrogation that Tony's doing with with Logan.

1039
00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, they're they're playing old memories that that

1040
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 2>he's downloaded, and you know, just having this whole back

1041
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:01.440
<v Speaker 2>and forth, and then he is all so comparing him

1042
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:06.480
<v Speaker 2>to the other version of Logan that we saw, Yeah,

1043
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:09.079
<v Speaker 2>and you know, rubbing it in his face like you're

1044
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:13.559
<v Speaker 2>you're the reason that all this this society we live

1045
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:16.039
<v Speaker 2>in now, me having half a body, all this other stuff,

1046
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:18.719
<v Speaker 2>it's all your fault because you killed Hank Pim and

1047
00:59:18.760 --> 00:59:21.840
<v Speaker 2>we know it because we have video footage. And Wolverine's like, yeah,

1048
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think you guys had security cameras back then.

1049
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:28.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, little presumptuous on his part, but I like it

1050
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:31.639
<v Speaker 1>that they the defenders are basically not going to be

1051
00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:35.360
<v Speaker 1>taking this one dying down. They want to get in there.

1052
00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:39.039
<v Speaker 1>They want to they you know thing whilen't Sue back,

1053
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:46.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, you know, they bust through, but at

1054
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:51.000
<v Speaker 1>that moment Sue gets out of there. They noticed the

1055
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:53.440
<v Speaker 1>intruders coming in and it's not anyone. They think it's

1056
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Morgan le Fay and her her kind of minions and

1057
00:59:56.760 --> 01:00:00.199
<v Speaker 1>making a surprise attack and it doesn't go well, not

1058
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:05.320
<v Speaker 1>really at all. And it's kind of interesting how out

1059
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:07.239
<v Speaker 1>of all the characters they decided to put to the

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01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:10.199
<v Speaker 1>forefront of Morgan la Fay, because even even during this

1061
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:11.920
<v Speaker 1>time of the comic ground like, Morgan la Fay is

1062
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:14.840
<v Speaker 1>not like a top you know, I know they present

1063
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:18.679
<v Speaker 1>it as a top tier Avengers she's I don't think

1064
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:21.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not that much in the lex gun. I mean,

1065
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:23.199
<v Speaker 1>she's had some great battles, it's been some interesting ones,

1066
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:25.639
<v Speaker 1>but I've never really considered Morgan la Fay a top

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01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:28.159
<v Speaker 1>tier Avengers threat villain. Yeah.

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01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:30.079
<v Speaker 2>When they have this splash spage and they're like, oh

1069
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:35.000
<v Speaker 2>my god, Morgan la face here, I'm like, really that okay,

1070
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:36.960
<v Speaker 2>with all the ones you get have gone to that's

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01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:39.639
<v Speaker 2>that's not the reaction I was guessing for that character.

1072
01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:42.719
<v Speaker 1>But okay, yeah, I mean that's what they originally thought.

1073
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:44.880
<v Speaker 1>It was like a projection of morgana Fay or creating

1074
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:48.960
<v Speaker 1>these memories at that point. But yeah, I mean it

1075
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.400
<v Speaker 1>does not look well for this world. And I will

1076
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:53.960
<v Speaker 1>say this, you know, we get to the next ending.

1077
01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I remember the next issue, if memory serves from my

1078
01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.440
<v Speaker 1>reading of this is the issue where they really jump

1079
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:04.840
<v Speaker 1>the Shark like a lot. As they say, Wolverine versus Wolverine,

1080
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:10.559
<v Speaker 1>and you're just like, oh, no, they're really gonna do Yeah, yeah,

1081
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:13.719
<v Speaker 1>they're they're gonna go crazy with time in, but they're

1082
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:14.679
<v Speaker 1>gonna put this up.

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<v Speaker 2>They they release that that cover with Wolverine Sabne Woverine,

1084
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:22.599
<v Speaker 2>and you know, someone's like, yep, this is gonna be

1085
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:27.760
<v Speaker 2>the selling point if putting Wolverine in your comics moves units.

1086
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:32.199
<v Speaker 2>We got two Wolverines and they're fighting each other and

1087
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:32.760
<v Speaker 2>one of.

1088
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Them's and then one of them they gotta have to

1089
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:37.880
<v Speaker 1>kill them. So yeah, it's it's interesting. I've never put

1090
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Age of Vultron as a top tier like you have

1091
01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:43.559
<v Speaker 1>to read it, but I've I've kind of saying like, okay, yeah,

1092
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:45.000
<v Speaker 1>there's some moments I have fun with this, and then

1093
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:48.159
<v Speaker 1>moments like, okay, I understand why you know, we probably

1094
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:50.199
<v Speaker 1>didn't need to go this way in the MCU, and

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01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:52.079
<v Speaker 1>we just took the idea of the title and went

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01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:55.280
<v Speaker 1>with it and say yeah, that's probably was the best. Yeah,

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01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:58.400
<v Speaker 1>all right, so we will continue on with Age Voltron

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01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:02.280
<v Speaker 1>number nine and yeah two ninety six in the books,

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<v Speaker 1>and but yeah, so as always, you We want to

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<v Speaker 1>Punisher next week. Very excited about that. David, tell people

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<v Speaker 1>all they can follow you.

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01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:56.440
<v Speaker 1>up on my wrestling. Listen to your show because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have time. I watched The Highlight's Icy on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you can catch me on All the Socials

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you get your podcasts. We greatly appreciate it. Thank

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01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:28.559
<v Speaker 1>y'all for listening, Thank you all for joining us live

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01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:32.079
<v Speaker 1>in the chat. Say safe out everyone, and a standing

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<v Speaker 1>the man would say, excelsior, true believers, all right, David

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<v Speaker 1>post credits discussion tonight, what you got? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>So, Charlie Cox revealed that much was cut from what

1131
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:48.639
<v Speaker 2>was actually filmed, including some scenes of him taking a

1132
01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:52.559
<v Speaker 2>head first backwards free fall or a lot of him

1133
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:56.840
<v Speaker 2>learning the discipline of fighting against the stick dummy. You know,

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01:03:56.880 --> 01:03:58.920
<v Speaker 2>he was a little bit upset that all this good

1135
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:02.199
<v Speaker 2>stuff never made it to the actual show, kind of.

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01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Laugh when he said that, really the stick dummy, that's

1137
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:06.559
<v Speaker 1>of all the things you really miss at that point.

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01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess maybe, like you said, you spent

1139
01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:09.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time doing it and that's all they got.

1140
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Like that's all I kind of really needed at that point.

1141
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't need to prove that you were training at

1142
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:16.239
<v Speaker 1>that point and kind of assumed you knew it.

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01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So with that being said, number one, what do

1144
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:25.199
<v Speaker 2>you what is something that you felt was either missing

1145
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.199
<v Speaker 2>or you want it more of from this season? And

1146
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:30.800
<v Speaker 2>number two, Charlie mentions that you know some of this

1147
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:33.360
<v Speaker 2>was cut due to the lower episode council. Do you

1148
01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:37.000
<v Speaker 2>think this show should go back to a higher episode

1149
01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:39.079
<v Speaker 2>count as they did in the Netflix.

1150
01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Era, I'd say yes on the higher episodc acount. What

1151
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I would say, I'd say two more episodes. I think

1152
01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:47.639
<v Speaker 1>a solid ten episodes does does it well. I think

1153
01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:49.639
<v Speaker 1>if people say, oh, you got a filler episode, no,

1154
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:54.599
<v Speaker 1>I think a ten would have allowed it to breathe. Now,

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01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:59.800
<v Speaker 1>what other storylines would I would have done? Like I said,

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01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I think if we wanted to really believe some of

1157
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:05.719
<v Speaker 1>the A v TF was gonna start turning. Maybe maybe

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01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:11.320
<v Speaker 1>some more with that, I don't know. I didn't read

1159
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:14.840
<v Speaker 1>enough of the story of where one last kill is

1160
01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:17.440
<v Speaker 1>placed in this one. I think it's obviously it's obviously

1161
01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:22.039
<v Speaker 1>between these two things. But I just I think I

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01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:26.679
<v Speaker 1>think Frank should have been somewhere in this season. I

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01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:32.719
<v Speaker 1>think that would have been some interesting dynamics there. Yeah,

1164
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:36.320
<v Speaker 1>it's I would have liked to see. I think mister

1165
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Charles was wasted. I don't I don't see the character

1166
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:45.039
<v Speaker 1>itself did not You could put anyone there, anyone in there.

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01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:47.119
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't think it could have been any no

1168
01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:49.440
<v Speaker 1>name thing. At that point, I would have just bought

1169
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:51.800
<v Speaker 1>it like this was trying to smuggle arms for something.

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01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:55.239
<v Speaker 1>You didn't need the miss the mister Charles character. That

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01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:58.119
<v Speaker 1>for that one line of a valve being in there,

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01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:01.079
<v Speaker 1>that was that was just a throwaway, Like if we're

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01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:04.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna make mister Charles somewhat of a threat, then this

1174
01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:08.039
<v Speaker 1>season did not do anything like that, you know, so

1175
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:11.079
<v Speaker 1>little things like that. But I agree the episode counts

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01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:13.199
<v Speaker 1>you to have gone up just a little bit. It

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01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:16.079
<v Speaker 1>just I think it needed one or two episodes more.

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01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:18.079
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think you need to do thirteen episodes

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01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:20.119
<v Speaker 1>on Netflix. I think ten is more than enough.

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01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, ten for me would have been this

1181
01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:28.039
<v Speaker 2>sweet spot with this. You know, thirteen does tend to

1182
01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:32.679
<v Speaker 2>drag or they do tend to overstuffed episodes. I'll also

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01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:36.039
<v Speaker 2>agree with you that the mister Charles stuff just felt lacking,

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01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:39.320
<v Speaker 2>especially you know, being so much a part of the

1185
01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:42.039
<v Speaker 2>trailers and such a big deal. We got Matthew Lillard

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01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:45.760
<v Speaker 2>and then all right, you've got him for a scene

1187
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:48.559
<v Speaker 2>in the first episode, a scene in the second episode,

1188
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:50.320
<v Speaker 2>then we don't really see him for a while, then

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01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:53.400
<v Speaker 2>he comes back at the end. It's just this big,

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01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:59.679
<v Speaker 2>bad presence just wasn't there. I'll also admit that, like

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01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I said, said we had two weeks where no one

1192
01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:06.480
<v Speaker 2>caught hands. It's a daredevil episode. I want to see

1193
01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:11.639
<v Speaker 2>one of the best hand to hand street fighters fight somebody.

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01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:16.119
<v Speaker 2>That's why I watched this. And for Charlie Cox's revelation

1195
01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:17.639
<v Speaker 2>that you know, he didn't get to do much with

1196
01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:20.800
<v Speaker 2>the stick dummies and all this other stuff. You're not,

1197
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Finn Jones. I can tell you've been training, so let

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01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:26.440
<v Speaker 2>me see that in the fight sequences. I don't need

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01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:28.599
<v Speaker 2>to see this stuff with the stick dummy.

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01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Brab over you.

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01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:33.119
<v Speaker 2>For learning the discipline, but I'd rather see him continue

1202
01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:36.000
<v Speaker 2>to go up against thus continue to take out the

1203
01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:38.519
<v Speaker 2>task Force and things like that.

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01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, it'll be interesting to see, you know

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01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.400
<v Speaker 1>what ends up for season three. Like we said, we've

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01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:49.519
<v Speaker 1>already gotten quote unquote spoiled on certain things, but I

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01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:52.559
<v Speaker 1>don't now that we see where it's going. I think

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01:07:52.599 --> 01:07:54.840
<v Speaker 1>the Defenders was the biggest one. Seeing Finn Jones back

1209
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:57.199
<v Speaker 1>after we already saw Luke Cage, so that was one.

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01:07:57.320 --> 01:08:01.679
<v Speaker 1>But you know again, Colin Wing, she's holding out for

1211
01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:04.039
<v Speaker 1>bringing her back. Please bring her back. I'd like to

1212
01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:07.840
<v Speaker 1>see Electric come back. You know again, this might be

1213
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the final season. You know again, we know the ratings

1214
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:13.199
<v Speaker 1>have not been there for it. If anyone who knows

1215
01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the behind the scenes of Hollywood, contracts get renegotiated after

1216
01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:20.039
<v Speaker 1>season three and the actors do, their price tag goes

1217
01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:23.319
<v Speaker 1>up after three seasons. So it's going to be very

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01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:27.319
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see if we get more than one more

1219
01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:31.199
<v Speaker 1>season out of this. My prediction right now is probably not.

1220
01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:36.159
<v Speaker 1>So I hope that they go out swinging. If this

1221
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:37.640
<v Speaker 1>is going to be the final season.

1222
01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could see three seasons being the definitive stopping point.

1223
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:46.920
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just hoping that they land this plane. You know,

1224
01:08:47.039 --> 01:08:50.119
<v Speaker 2>solid can continue the rise up that you had from

1225
01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:53.920
<v Speaker 2>season one to season two and just yeah, I'm excited

1226
01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:54.640
<v Speaker 2>for what's next.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. So all right, we'll see you next week for

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01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:01.800
<v Speaker 1>our breakdown and spoiler review of Unsure one Last Kill.

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<v Speaker 1>You all have a great weekend. Great week up ahead,

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01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Take care of yourself and as always, take care of

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Bye bye, see you,