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<v Speaker 1>Get ready.

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<v Speaker 2>September tenth, twenty twenty five. Allegedly, according to that thing

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<v Speaker 2>we call a calendar, it's Wednesday. And this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a weird one because I didn't intend to

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<v Speaker 2>schedule two guests on one night. But that's what we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do. And first thing is I want to

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back Mike Swanson, the guy behind Wall Street Window,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna find out what he's doing with that brand,

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<v Speaker 2>that publication. I'm still getting emails, hopefully some of you

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<v Speaker 2>are still interesting articles and thoughts. I thought maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to go with substack whatever. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to straighten that out in a moment. Since

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<v Speaker 2>we are live. Guess what I can comment on the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that a right wing podcaster was assassinated today, And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I use that term with the fair fair amount of confidence,

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<v Speaker 2>because when one person is targeted, they're calling it a

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<v Speaker 2>mass shooting, they're calling it all kinds of things. Appears

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<v Speaker 2>to me as though there was a targeted assassination. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what the motive was. People are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the timing, the questioning. I've been over the video.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty horrendous and quite Frankly, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be productive if any of this continues. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>care which party you're in, don't care what your thoughts are.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I think you need to go out there and

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<v Speaker 2>do the whole prove me wrong thing. Not necessarily, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not my choice because it's not my speech, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody should be murdered for words. But

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to twenty twenty five. This sucks. What can I

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<v Speaker 2>say now? You know? Maybe I'll get into more about

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Kirk and what happens and who's been arrested and

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<v Speaker 2>all that later in the week, because news is news,

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<v Speaker 2>plus there's a lot of other stuff to go over.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I could tell Mike. I'm sure he's seen it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I could tell Mike Swanson, who's with me here

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<v Speaker 2>in the first hour that, gee, you know, in a

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<v Speaker 2>week where I'm learning that Fawn Hall and Ali North

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<v Speaker 2>got married, Okay, and there were many that's true. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a true story. According to New York Post, they got

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<v Speaker 2>a copy of the marriage license and there's a story there.

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<v Speaker 2>I know many of you young people are like, who's

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<v Speaker 2>Olly North and who's Fawn Hall? But I ran Contra

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<v Speaker 2>google it. I guess you know there's something to it. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Then you got the mass shootings that have been hoaxes,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of dozen of them over the past few weeks. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to Charlie Kirk not a hoax, not a

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<v Speaker 2>crisis actor situation or none of that. Unfortunately this guy,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's some ugly video that has circulated widely immediately. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>daylight savings time is going to end on I think

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<v Speaker 2>November sec. I mean, there's a lot of things we

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<v Speaker 2>could talk about in the news. I can tell you

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<v Speaker 2>about the BMA spot they did for Ozzy Osbourne. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought was pretty cool, actually, But what are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to do on a day like today, the day before

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<v Speaker 2>the September eleventh anniversary. And I got to say, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not feeling any better about it today than I did

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<v Speaker 2>on the twelfth of September two thousand and one. The

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<v Speaker 2>direction that the nation is going in. But that's just me. Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you? How have you been? People been asking,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, is Mike okay? And all that? And I

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<v Speaker 2>keep telling him, Look, Mike just doesn't really want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk too much right now. And I kind of had

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you ten times to get you on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't I.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really slowed down over a year ago. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been you know, doing content, putting stuff out since really

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety nine in the financial space, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we did shows over the years. But I was just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, well, I'm sort of coming back. I

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<v Speaker 1>get so I'll talk about why is why that is.

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<v Speaker 1>But a year ago I just felt as if at

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<v Speaker 1>the I'd really had nothing much more to tell people.

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<v Speaker 1>For two reasons. One, on my website in the financial space,

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<v Speaker 1>I was really telling people that I believe the United

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<v Speaker 1>States was gonna have debt problems, that we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>what they do. You know, things are gonna get worse economically,

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<v Speaker 1>and they should be diversified, but really by gold and silver,

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<v Speaker 1>not put all their money into it, but by gold

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<v Speaker 1>and silver, and do it before it started to go up, well,

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<v Speaker 1>once silver went above twenty six dollars, I just stopped

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<v Speaker 1>doing YouTube videos, in which I've been doing for since

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven or something. I just said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have nothing else to say. I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to keep putting that content just for

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<v Speaker 1>the algorithm, just for social media, because that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do. You just have to put stuff out

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<v Speaker 1>over and over and over and over again to get

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<v Speaker 1>any to get these algorithms to push out what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was just tired of doing it for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>over twenty five years, you know. But I also emotionally,

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<v Speaker 1>quite honest, I I know, I sent you a phasing

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of emails, and I sent it to other

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<v Speaker 1>people that the country's going down the toilet. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was something I started to say last year, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks before Trump was shot. So I wasn't having

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<v Speaker 1>in mind the outcome of the presidential election or Republican Democrat,

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<v Speaker 1>which is how so much of the discussion is framed

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<v Speaker 1>in the news cycle, and the people who are most

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<v Speaker 1>engaged in news, that's how the news sources are talking

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<v Speaker 1>to them most of the time, right, And most people,

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of people I think are really have disengaged

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<v Speaker 1>themselves from the following all these events going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the news cycle in general. And but you know today, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a coincidence. You know, we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>doing this show a couple of days ago, and you

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<v Speaker 1>see this news of of Charlie Kirk being shot, and

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's just a symptom of what.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking was going to get worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily simply violence, but just a worsening situation in

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<v Speaker 1>the country. I do think one day it will get better,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't. I think it's going to get worse

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<v Speaker 1>before it does. And I came to that conclusion last

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<v Speaker 1>year in the spring, at some point. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in two thousand and eight, I knew ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of time before people realized that the financial crisis was

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. In two thousand and two, that whole year,

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<v Speaker 1>I was very worried and upset about what would happen

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<v Speaker 1>when the United States went to war in Iraq, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was going to be one of the

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<v Speaker 1>worst decisions we would see in our lifetime. And I

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<v Speaker 1>still think, you know that, maybe maybe I don't you

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<v Speaker 1>know that that still believe.

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<v Speaker 2>That, well, that's almost a cake walking.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not sure when the downslide began, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, that's certainly, but it's part of it, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you this because it's almost like

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<v Speaker 2>a cakewalk. Looking back at Yeah, I thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>a bad decision too. Uh, the idea that we were

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<v Speaker 2>going to you know, make this war on terror the

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<v Speaker 2>centerpiece of our foreign policy wasn't all for it. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I understand the idea for retribution. The American people in general,

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<v Speaker 2>the people that I was around at that time, wanted retribution.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had no question over the narrow I believe that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that was a time that we needed to

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<v Speaker 2>unite as a country and all of that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think that expanding the violence in the Middle East

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<v Speaker 2>was going to solve anything. And it didn't. But it

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<v Speaker 2>also didn't bring us to the brink of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>real destruction like I was worried it would, frankly, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, had to re educate myself a bit. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>what's fascinating is you've told people about trends long ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of time. People respected that. I mean, at one point

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<v Speaker 2>you were part of running a hedge fund. Things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>People trusted you with their money, they trusted you with

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<v Speaker 2>advice and all that, and they still do. But the

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<v Speaker 2>odd thing is now they've turned it all, almost everything

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<v Speaker 2>that anyone says into a political debate. Right, So if

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying the economy is going to make a downturn,

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're saying, well, you must be against whoever's in

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<v Speaker 2>office at the time. You're making a political statement. When

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<v Speaker 2>you're not making a political statement, you're making a calculation

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<v Speaker 2>based on trends you see emerging and certain signals that

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<v Speaker 2>are commonplace, seems like to me for the past one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and some odd years in the markets right one

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<v Speaker 2>way or another. And the misperception of that is so

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<v Speaker 2>strange too, because politics in and of itself will change

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<v Speaker 2>what happens in finances to some degree. You know, even

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<v Speaker 2>if they believe the illusion, it works for a little while,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, the massive crash in nineteen twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody thinks the Great Depression lasted a whole decade, but

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<v Speaker 2>really there was a bounce back in nineteen thirty a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we had well, you know, all sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>mixed results all the way up to the fifties in

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<v Speaker 2>the economy, and people's perception of that is no longer

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<v Speaker 2>accurate to what the numbers reflect. And they've rewritten the history.

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<v Speaker 2>They rewrote it at the time, and the feeling because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we had the victory in World War Two,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera, et cetera. There were all sorts of politics

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<v Speaker 2>grafted onto the reality. And I think that's been a

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<v Speaker 2>common trend in American history, and I think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>started to happen to you as it was starting to

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<v Speaker 2>get a little sickening between you know, these guys who

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<v Speaker 2>were using algorithms and AI crap to flood the zone

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to content, between that and the disingenuous

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<v Speaker 2>nature of people just attaching everything to a political argument

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<v Speaker 2>when you're being an analyst, and I think that was

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<v Speaker 2>what discouraged you. Is that fair or am I af.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's probably true what you're saying. I think that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. I think I had a vielin.

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<v Speaker 1>Somewhat, Like you know, it's a little futile to try

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<v Speaker 1>to give people all this analysis or whatnot when other

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<v Speaker 3>Blame me for it. This way, I really believe like.

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<v Speaker 1>The what I've been, you know, writing stuff on the

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<v Speaker 1>internet and making content, like I said, since nineteen ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can tell in the financial space that it's changed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that change is reflected, you know, what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in everything else. I think it's just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it there and it's happening everywhere else. But

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's so well, you know that I know

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<v Speaker 1>it in detail. But to make a long story short,

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<v Speaker 1>I could say what I got into the trading and investing.

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<v Speaker 1>People go to the bookstore, they buy books, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are certain gurus I guess called that experts or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineties who like advocated a certain method. They

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<v Speaker 1>would have their method on how to you know, make

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<v Speaker 1>a good stock pick and look for these different things

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<v Speaker 1>in a company and in the stock and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you'd make a good That's what they would.

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<v Speaker 3>Say were the best ones to buy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And and I'd read those books. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>also interested in charting and trends, and there are books

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<v Speaker 1>about that and so forth. And I would run ads

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<v Speaker 1>to build an email list using Google from say two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and two to two thousand and eight or so,

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<v Speaker 1>and the ads would say learn a certain stock investing term,

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<v Speaker 1>learn this, And those ads were successful.

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<v Speaker 3>In today. You know, over the.

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<v Speaker 1>Past ten years, you couldn't run that ad. No one

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<v Speaker 1>They just want to be told by this by this

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen, and I think it coincided with the rise

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<v Speaker 1>with YouTube, and then it was so the way people

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Mike, this is how we ended up with

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<v Speaker 2>game stop and that whole thing versus right the go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and invest all your money and be a gold bug, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because that was the answer otherwise, right, an instant call

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<v Speaker 2>and response is what the problem was. Because I watched

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<v Speaker 2>developed like you did, where you know, we've had to

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<v Speaker 2>face Okay, there's Robin Hood, there's you know, follow the

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<v Speaker 2>DC pizza or whatever. Right, you know, algorithm online You've

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<v Speaker 2>seen that, right, whatever pizza is being ordered that tells

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<v Speaker 2>you what's going on at the State Department. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>weird stuff like this. And everybody wanted instant call and

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<v Speaker 2>to play it like it's a game instead of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and and by the way, you're being pitted against computers

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<v Speaker 2>who are making trades in fractions of seconds. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>no longer about you picking up a strategy and knowing

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<v Speaker 2>what happened on the markets overnight in Asia and figuring

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<v Speaker 2>out how that's going to affect the markets when they

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<v Speaker 2>open this morning. It's no longer any of that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, things that happen in three seconds at

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the day. It sets the trend for

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<v Speaker 2>and that's like the evolution of gaming and game theory actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and then on top of it, I think this weird

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<v Speaker 2>grafting of what is your political ideology? Right, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>support certain stocks, that's now akin to what your identity is,

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<v Speaker 2>what your identity politic is, you know, support you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Tesla for instance, right remember the Tesla stock was crashing

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<v Speaker 2>is support him. So now you have political stock picks

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<v Speaker 2>which have nothing to do with the reality of trying

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<v Speaker 2>raiders and all kinds of things went on, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>greed is good and all that, and they were you know,

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<v Speaker 2>destroying and completely just membering companies and spreading around their

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<v Speaker 2>assets and redistributing things. I don't even think that's a

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<v Speaker 2>thing anymore. Now. It's about you know, building these giant

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<v Speaker 2>borg entities, whether it's in the media or anything else,

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<v Speaker 2>that encompasses everything. I mean, if you think about the

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<v Speaker 2>company that owns any sort of media you like or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, let's just say you're into the superhero movies,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't think either one of us are. You're

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<v Speaker 3>Mike, No, not really, I didn't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>But we know it's a significant financial factor in the

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<v Speaker 2>entertainment business, or at least it was. You know, which

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<v Speaker 2>company actually owns all of the money making aspects of

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<v Speaker 2>that thing. There's a bunch of companies that come together

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<v Speaker 2>under some flag somewhere, just like we're watching the uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the paramount CBS deal. You know, what does

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<v Speaker 2>that really mean? What's going on there?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>And now we have an interesting political tug war going

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<v Speaker 2>on where you know, hey, look, the president's going to

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<v Speaker 2>sue certain entities. Maybe you'll threaten to take away this

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<v Speaker 2>and that. And the politics have creeped into everything, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's the identity politics of oh my god, remember

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<v Speaker 2>the freak out that the Internet had because Captain America

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<v Speaker 2>was a woman, you know, stuff like that, or no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, Captain Marble was a woman. Captain America was black.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the problem. I got to keep it straight.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know that became a tug of war all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden when you're talking about comic book characters

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<v Speaker 2>who don't have a race by definition, you know. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go. It's a weird world we're in where

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<v Speaker 2>everything is in this disconnected political hopper, and the truth

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<v Speaker 2>is it's all gamed by different algorithms, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>can figure out how to beat or break the algorithm,

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<v Speaker 2>you can definitely win the game. I mean, they did

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing with Game Stop, and you remember that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't deserve to do well and propped it up somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden it was a big money maker.

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<v Speaker 2>People cashed out on it. And we've also had the

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<v Speaker 2>implementation of crypto this and that and the third thing, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't keep track of the coins and the NFTs

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<v Speaker 2>and all that, which you and I tried to discuss

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<v Speaker 2>too as it was emerging. Nobody wanted to hear it

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<v Speaker 2>if they were on the side of it, though, right, So,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm just trying to give a general sort

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<v Speaker 2>turned you off because you're a real person. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not an algorithm generated business model, which other people

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<v Speaker 2>are operating under one way or another, whether they're in

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<v Speaker 2>podcast or anymore. They're all operating under these AI driven

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<v Speaker 2>and conceptual business models. And it doesn't matter if it's

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<v Speaker 2>the financial industry or if it's making clips or critiquing

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<v Speaker 2>you know, entertainment media or music or anything else. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>is now generated by the grand set of algorithms you've

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<v Speaker 2>decided to assemble. I mean, do you think it's one

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<v Speaker 2>of those things that's all the way across the culture

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<v Speaker 2>and the interaction, or you think it's primarily focused on

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<v Speaker 2>the financial What are your thoughts there?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, no, no, I think it's all cross. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing about the financial space is what I came

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<v Speaker 1>to believe was that after you know, is that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship with the algorithms and the you know everyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the consumers of the content, and that the

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<v Speaker 1>algorithms over time with the hot I'm just using the

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<v Speaker 1>financial space as example. With the constant height hype pipe HEP,

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<v Speaker 1>they program people like brainwash them into thinking that's what

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<v Speaker 1>investing is. That investing is about getting rich quick in

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<v Speaker 3>And not about any sort of analysis.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's an incredible lact of knowledge education of among

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<v Speaker 1>the people that have gotten into trading now in the

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<v Speaker 1>past couple of years. I mean, I've talked to people

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<v Speaker 1>they're like thirty years old and they'll get a robin

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<v Speaker 1>or something, and they're trading for a year and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what a bond is. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what a bond is, you have no clue

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<v Speaker 1>what the market is, what capitalism is, what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>getting involved in. All they know is they're telling me

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to go up. Someone buy it, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm seeing on social media. But the constant flood,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they're seeing though, that's their frame of reference.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's educated them. Is the images and videos of

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<v Speaker 1>people who are catering to algorithms. That's what they're learning from.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's programmed people. And I would suggest that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned of a term to maybe two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>it might have been last year that the Pentagon uses

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<v Speaker 1>for propaganda of using social media as mimetic engineering, and

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk has used that term when he bought Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Idea is using.

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<v Speaker 1>The social media feeds to change people's opinion and mold

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<v Speaker 1>them into thinking one way or the other, basically manipulate

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<v Speaker 1>them through propaganda the constant flood of the of what

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<v Speaker 3>It's quite effective, and I think it's changed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people spend so much time on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth, that it's changed the way a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people interact even in real life with other people.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's built in us versus them picking pattern which

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<v Speaker 1>could it may be that even without the Internet and

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<v Speaker 1>all the things have said that a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>things would still be going on in our politics and

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<v Speaker 1>society as they are. But I certainly think it's as

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<v Speaker 1>exasperated and there's some sort of relationship between correlation of

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<v Speaker 1>some sorts between the two. An event today, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure you know this.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever did this news event today? And there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>There's one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you know one all the time, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing new. They'll be looking at the person's what they're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at on social media and what they've written and

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, their social media presence will definitely become part of

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation very very soon, it'll become exactly who they are,

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<v Speaker 2>and it'll become a couple of words worth of a descriptor.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's like the society we find ourselves in. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you the old chicken or the egg? Which

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<v Speaker 2>one came first? Question? Right, which a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>have when they're trying to analyze these things after the events,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, take place and take hold. It's fascinating here

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<v Speaker 2>because I got a real argument. I don't know which

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<v Speaker 2>game first here? You know, did the social media do

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<v Speaker 2>this or was it the thing that was spawned by

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<v Speaker 2>a lack of what attention span? A desire to educate oneself?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it all about instant gratification? We heard about that

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<v Speaker 2>for decades, right, that was the biggest problem because we're all,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fat and lazy and want everything handed to us,

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<v Speaker 2>right because we're Americans. We're ugly Americans. You know, did

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<v Speaker 2>that reality come home to roost? And did we get

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<v Speaker 2>a chicken in the egg at the same time? Year

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<v Speaker 2>through the social media engineering, the me medic engineering, like

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying, I think it's a valid question. Anyway, as

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<v Speaker 2>this is going on, you're still willing to write some stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>some historical stuff anyway, even if you've sort of given

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<v Speaker 2>up on the financial space in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Although I still see you talking about things that have

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<v Speaker 2>to do with finance. And you had a recent article.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we could call it an article. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>call these things articles anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they're were emails sitting at emails, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're not long, you know, four articles, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>the three nine hundred words you know with it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I never stopped writing about the financial space and with

421
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<v Speaker 1>the email list, you know, because that's to me, that's

422
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<v Speaker 1>a little different because it's a written form a communication.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a tweet.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a one sentence tweet at nine hundred words

425
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<v Speaker 1>is still meaningful, and you know sometimes it can be

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<v Speaker 1>longer than that. So but decided, you know, I wrote,

427
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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've written that war state book, and people

428
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<v Speaker 1>who bought it gotten a lot out of it. But

429
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<v Speaker 1>the first book I wrote was a local history book.

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<v Speaker 2>And when about Danville, Virginia, right yeah, right right?

431
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<v Speaker 1>And a local yeah, a local history. And when I

432
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<v Speaker 1>wrote it, I thought one of the things I thought was.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this will be in the library and people

434
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<v Speaker 1>can go in the library and read this one hundred

435
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<v Speaker 1>years from now, you know, because there's not that many

436
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<v Speaker 1>there's not gonna be that many books written about it,

437
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's a meaningful thing to produce. And I've got things,

438
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:28.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, that I do want to write and talk

439
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>about on different topics with the financial space I've thought

440
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<v Speaker 1>about putting together for free. I'm not not trying to

441
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<v Speaker 1>sell this, but of course telling people kind of the

442
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<v Speaker 1>different lessons I've.

443
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<v Speaker 3>Learned from the years and.

444
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<v Speaker 1>Ways I think are good to invest that anyone can do,

445
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<v Speaker 1>like an educational series. And also, you know, I want

446
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<v Speaker 1>to write more about the Kennedy assassination and other related

447
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<v Speaker 1>historical topics over the rest of my life.

448
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<v Speaker 3>So I've decided, well, you know, to.

449
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<v Speaker 1>Do all that, I got to get an audience, and

450
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<v Speaker 1>I do have the I still have an audience, and

451
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you know from the financial email list, so I'll just

452
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<v Speaker 1>try to I decide I'll just keep doing that and

453
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<v Speaker 1>I'll try to revive the YouTube channel, and I'll start

454
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<v Speaker 1>out talking about some of the financial stuff going on,

455
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<v Speaker 1>because I do think there are important things happening in

456
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<v Speaker 1>the markets in the economy, and I'll see if I

457
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<v Speaker 1>can revive it, and then time I could use it

458
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<v Speaker 1>to talk about other topics too.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to see you do this, Mike, But

460
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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if you're even aware of the strangeness that's

461
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:58.519
<v Speaker 2>gone on on YouTube in the recent months, even you know,

462
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>we now have edited language on that platform where you know, look,

463
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<v Speaker 2>you're going to talk about history, obviously, you're going to

464
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<v Speaker 2>bring up things like murder, and you know they're using

465
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<v Speaker 2>terms on there like unalived instead if someone was killed.

466
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not kidding by the way. You know, you talk

467
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<v Speaker 2>about the Kennedy assassination, you might have to bring up

468
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<v Speaker 2>the suicide of a particular figure or two or ten

469
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<v Speaker 2>because they might come up and you know, they would

470
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<v Speaker 2>say that they blank out that word on YouTube. You

471
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<v Speaker 2>can't even use those words now on YouTube. It's a

472
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<v Speaker 2>very very weird, you know, just nineteen eighty four style,

473
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<v Speaker 2>you know, newspeak kind of platform now. So YouTube is

474
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<v Speaker 2>no longer what it was, and it's again no longer

475
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<v Speaker 2>what it was again repeatedly. I don't know how you'll

476
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<v Speaker 2>survive on there with the weirdness. Just speaking bluntly using

477
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<v Speaker 2>common language. You know, when people talk about even with

478
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<v Speaker 2>this Epstein thing, they talk about you know, sexual assault,

479
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.319
<v Speaker 2>they're saying things like yours you know, someone.

480
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<v Speaker 3>Was sayed.

481
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<v Speaker 2>You're not even allowed to use those words. It's getting

482
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<v Speaker 2>really weird, you know, the the news speak and the

483
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:21.279
<v Speaker 2>thought police are out there. I think the only space

484
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<v Speaker 2>where you're going to be able to do something like

485
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<v Speaker 2>that might be something like Patreon, you know, where people

486
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<v Speaker 2>are subscribers. They come in and they can you know,

487
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.839
<v Speaker 2>watch your videos, or they have a live broadcast thing

488
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<v Speaker 2>on there now, which I'm exploring for audio and things

489
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:39.559
<v Speaker 2>like that. But you're going to have to go onto

490
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<v Speaker 2>a platform where only people that have like paid entry

491
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>can come and see what you have to say. I mean,

492
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<v Speaker 2>that's the reality.

493
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<v Speaker 3>Now.

494
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<v Speaker 2>These platforms have gotten so weird that you know, they've

495
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<v Speaker 2>decided very straight, you know, and people have complained over

496
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:59.559
<v Speaker 2>the years, recent years, especially Oh the Conservatives are all

497
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:03.319
<v Speaker 2>being police, their thoughts are being policed. But I got

498
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:07.119
<v Speaker 2>to tell you when when they're removing words which are

499
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 2>just descriptors of events that have occurred, how do you

500
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>even cover you know, a historical event. I mean the

501
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Kennedy's I literally saw, you know, the Kennedy assassination video

502
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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days ago where the audio kept diving

503
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:32.000
<v Speaker 2>out because they were talking about him being shot or killed. Okay,

504
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.319
<v Speaker 2>and they're blurring the suppruder frames and all. I mean,

505
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.200
<v Speaker 2>they haven't gotten to all of it yet. But anything

506
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:42.480
<v Speaker 2>new that's being produced is being policed heavily by these

507
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<v Speaker 2>algorithms that have decided that certain words, certain images, provocative

508
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:53.319
<v Speaker 2>thoughts are not acceptable. And yet there are others who

509
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<v Speaker 2>are blessed who have you know, bigger media presences, who

510
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<v Speaker 2>can get away with talking about everything, even if it's

511
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<v Speaker 2>just in the news. The ugliness that occurs, you know,

512
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<v Speaker 2>they're full on letting the Just today, they're full on

513
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<v Speaker 2>letting a pretty brutal looking video. I mean, Charlie Kirk

514
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<v Speaker 2>was shot in the neck and you can see it clearly.

515
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<v Speaker 2>There's various angles they got, you know, different all sorts

516
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.720
<v Speaker 2>of people, you know, with their tiktoks, live and everything else.

517
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>A lot of video has been captured because now we

518
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:29.839
<v Speaker 2>don't need video surveillance. We are walking video surveillance with

519
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>these phones, and that stuff is up there. But God

520
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 2>help you if you talk about something that might have

521
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<v Speaker 2>occurred where someone was stabbed in a bar fight or something,

522
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<v Speaker 2>and it's you know, part of history, the history of

523
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<v Speaker 2>a case, the history of what happened. You might not

524
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<v Speaker 2>be allowed to talk about anything that you know contains

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<v Speaker 2>violence or whatever. And look American history. One thing I

526
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<v Speaker 2>think no one can argue with is that it is

527
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<v Speaker 2>littered with plenty of violence. So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be able to freely talk about it on there.

529
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<v Speaker 1>What do you think, Well, I mean, I'll find out eventually.

530
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<v Speaker 1>But in the end, you know, this is the problem

531
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<v Speaker 1>of platforms, and these Internet platforms in general. You know,

532
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>they can ban you, they come and go. My Space

533
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:26.320
<v Speaker 1>is gone, you know YouTube, you know the plenty that have.

534
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Come and gone.

535
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<v Speaker 1>And in the end, the only you know, I've been

536
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<v Speaker 1>doing this for twenty five years. The only thing you

537
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<v Speaker 1>own that I own is the list of the database

538
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 1>I have on my newsletter. So if i'm that's my

539
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:48.360
<v Speaker 1>primary means of communication. So if one of these platforms

540
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<v Speaker 1>goes or kicks me off or something, I just I

541
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>still got my email list. I just tell those people

542
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<v Speaker 1>we're using this video system.

543
00:34:57.440 --> 00:34:58.639
<v Speaker 3>Instead, you know.

544
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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I always tell the people subscribe to the

545
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:06.119
<v Speaker 1>email list, not go subscribe to my Facebook page or

546
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:09.280
<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel or Twitter or something. Right, you know, it's

547
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:12.320
<v Speaker 1>just that's subscribe to my newsletter.

548
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean to give you a weird example. Larry Hancock

549
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 2>has been banned from Facebook.

550
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:22.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know that's crazy.

551
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:28.159
<v Speaker 2>That's a guy who is He doesn't use inflammatory language,

552
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't unnecessarily focus on things, he doesn't post images

553
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:37.159
<v Speaker 2>of violence. Uh, this guy's not a toxic presence ever.

554
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:39.760
<v Speaker 2>And you know, anybody who's listening to my show long

555
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.480
<v Speaker 2>enough knows it. But yeah, we live in a weird

556
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>world where Larry Hancock's getting banned from a platform and

557
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.920
<v Speaker 2>can't even get an explanation. You know, some people would say, oh,

558
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:51.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, well, Chuck, you get banned. Yeah I do.

559
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.840
<v Speaker 2>And okay, some people think I deserve it because oh,

560
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<v Speaker 2>well you said, you know, you said or covered things

561
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 2>that they don't want covered or what. Okay, explain to

562
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 2>me Larry Hancock, because I don't get it. So, yeah, no,

563
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.360
<v Speaker 2>that's true. And isn't that a principle in business? I

564
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:11.199
<v Speaker 2>just want to take this back old school real quick.

565
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:14.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a principal business, okay, because even when a local

566
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:18.679
<v Speaker 2>plumber would sell his business, you know, back when I

567
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:22.079
<v Speaker 2>used to be in the regular business world. The key

568
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:26.079
<v Speaker 2>thing that they wanted was his customer list. It wasn't

569
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:30.679
<v Speaker 2>about his truck, or his tools, or his office location. Right,

570
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>even if you bought a plumbing business, what they wanted

571
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 2>was the customer list. You know, all those contacts, all

572
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:44.039
<v Speaker 2>those people and your phone number. In other words, your

573
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:49.400
<v Speaker 2>contacts and your contact base. This is why people are selling.

574
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:56.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, their can sell their X platform profiles, they

575
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:59.280
<v Speaker 2>can sell their email lists. It's because of the connectivity

576
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:04.519
<v Speaker 2>to the audience, the connectivity to the customer base. So

577
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:08.199
<v Speaker 2>you're sticking to a very old school principle here. Like

578
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I said, you know the guy who ran a plumbing business,

579
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 2>the guy who ran a catering business, guy who did

580
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 2>home improvements, the guy who would repair you know, machinery,

581
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:22.599
<v Speaker 2>lawnmower repair guys. What they wanted really was not your location.

582
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, they bought everything, but what was the key

583
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:28.320
<v Speaker 2>thing that was really a value.

584
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<v Speaker 3>It was the.

585
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Connection to the customers. Or do I have a crazy

586
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.360
<v Speaker 2>business idea there? I mean, look, you're actually educated in

587
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:38.000
<v Speaker 2>this world. I just worked in it. But I mean

588
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:41.039
<v Speaker 2>that's what I always saw. It was about getting the

589
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:44.280
<v Speaker 2>customer base and getting the connectivity to the customer base,

590
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:47.880
<v Speaker 2>whether it's viewers or it's people literally paying for a

591
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 2>service or anything else. That's really what's the value is

592
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:56.239
<v Speaker 2>that connected list of interested people that you know, you

593
00:37:56.239 --> 00:38:00.239
<v Speaker 2>can monetize somehow or am I wrong about that.

594
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<v Speaker 3>Now? One hundred percent?

595
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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's that's what the you know, these internet

596
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>companies are all about, too, getting as much data as

597
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>they possible can. That's what all these data centers are about.

598
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:16.760
<v Speaker 1>That's what AI is really about. Scraping all the data

599
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:21.480
<v Speaker 1>off Internet and then repurposing it to people and calling

600
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<v Speaker 1>it you know.

601
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<v Speaker 3>AI.

602
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>That's all they're doing. But it's the same, you know,

603
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.679
<v Speaker 1>it's just well that's a little different than a customer list.

604
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>But but oh no, but the president's data.

605
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the principle remains the same. It's the data to

606
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.400
<v Speaker 2>connect to them so that you know. And that's the

607
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 2>funny thing is that when I covered that thing in Dubai,

608
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:45.760
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, ten years ago now, where they

609
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<v Speaker 2>had this you know, summit about the future of business

610
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<v Speaker 2>and the way it was going to run. There were

611
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:53.519
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of speakers who came out and said, look, uh,

612
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<v Speaker 2>data information that is going to be the oil of

613
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<v Speaker 2>the future, the thing that you can go wrong with

614
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<v Speaker 2>so long as you can get a good supply of it.

615
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.280
<v Speaker 2>That is the deal. That's where the riches are. And

616
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.920
<v Speaker 2>everybody thought I was just being paranoid and weird about it,

617
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and I said, no, this guy's telling you something real.

618
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.960
<v Speaker 2>And meanwhile, they had a parade of people coming up

619
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<v Speaker 2>at this international summit about the future of global business.

620
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<v Speaker 2>You know, where is it going to be? Is it

621
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<v Speaker 2>going to be in the oil industry? Is it going

622
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:28.760
<v Speaker 2>to be you know, in monetary devices? Are we going

623
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:31.519
<v Speaker 2>to be trading bonds across the planet forever? And that's

624
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.679
<v Speaker 2>how people can make their money. No, it's about data

625
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:39.440
<v Speaker 2>collection and information in and of itself, and I think

626
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:42.199
<v Speaker 2>people failed to recognize what that might mean. Maybe they're

627
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:45.880
<v Speaker 2>getting an idea now because of AI and they can see,

628
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:50.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, like the real reason why an

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon is worth what it is is because look, they've

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<v Speaker 2>got everybody's addresses, they've got people's purchasing information, They've got

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<v Speaker 2>you know, financial information from every kind of bank, credit card,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. You know, in a huge portion of the market.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why Amazon is the beast it is, or

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<v Speaker 2>am I crazy again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right. You think about like coping like eBay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, eBay doesn't. I don't think eBay even has

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<v Speaker 1>a warehouse. They don't. You know, they're just a middleman.

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<v Speaker 1>But they have thousands of users, millions of people, not thousands,

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<v Speaker 1>millions that log into their website.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's their customer list. Yeah, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some are buying and some are selling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's no longer the huge business it once was.

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<v Speaker 2>But still the template prevails. And quite frankly, even look,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't me with the you know, sour grapes, but

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<v Speaker 2>the PayPal mapia is a real thing. I mean, think

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<v Speaker 2>about it as the go between for the exchange of

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<v Speaker 2>digital currency on all sorts of levels, even internationally. PayPal's

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<v Speaker 2>a monster, you know, there's it's no wonder that they

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<v Speaker 2>bought all these other things like Venmo and these various

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<v Speaker 2>other things that are under different you know, company names.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all about making their money from just the exchange. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also the information that they have on buyers

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<v Speaker 2>and sellers everywhere that have had to use PayPal at

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<v Speaker 2>some point or other, even though you know, again they

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<v Speaker 2>banned me. But but they're getting strange and selective, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's a massive business in and of itself that I

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<v Speaker 2>doubt that you know, without a system as sophisticated as

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<v Speaker 2>they have, nobody really knows the massive size of the

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<v Speaker 2>data that can be collected from that, the data that

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<v Speaker 2>is influenced by that, et cetera. I mean, it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>unfathomable to the rich person exactly how large things like

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<v Speaker 2>that become and have become. Anyway, now we've kind of

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<v Speaker 2>gone into a weird place, and you recently wrote well

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<v Speaker 2>an email about the FED and everything, and I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 2>if you got any responses on that. Did people react,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, et cetera, you know, maybe give people an

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<v Speaker 2>idea what you had to say here, because we do

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<v Speaker 2>have Larry Hancock coming up in the next hour. But

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to touch on this mainly for our discussion,

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<v Speaker 2>but we wound up elsewhere. Sorry about that. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I do. But I also want to thank you because

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a long time since I've been able to

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<v Speaker 2>have this conversation with anybody who is observing, you know, objectively,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on here. I think, you know, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not about Mike's politics, it's about his analysis, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that's been lost in the shuffle here lately.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, God bless anybody who can make a

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<v Speaker 2>living off of influencing and know, making short clips and whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, good for you, however you make

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<v Speaker 2>a living without hurting other people, Good luck. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>we're in a different sort of world here than where

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<v Speaker 2>we used to be, and that that FED article is

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<v Speaker 2>really what I wanted to talk to you about. But

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<v Speaker 2>we wound up going off on these other discussions. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's been so long since we talked, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of unavoidable. I hope they'll come back again soon

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<v Speaker 2>so we can continue this conversation. But in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>tell people about the newsletter, the email and oh, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, can they still sign up for it if

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't, which I don't know anybody personally who listens

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<v Speaker 2>to my show that hasn't signed up for your newsletter,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, how can they do that still and

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<v Speaker 2>get the emails and be on your email list? Because

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm going to give my information to anybody, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Swanson's one of these guys that's not gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sell you out and give you the phishing because that's

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<v Speaker 2>another weird group of people that have emerged, these you know,

698
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<v Speaker 2>fake redirection plans that are out there that just scam people.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if they get to scam one out

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<v Speaker 2>of a thousand people, victory for the cheap ads they

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<v Speaker 2>put up. And by the way, those are on the

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<v Speaker 2>big legitimate platforms. Those are on the you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just dark web where people are getting screwed. Just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, that's my commentary. But yeah, tell us

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<v Speaker 2>about this FED article and the email list and how

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<v Speaker 2>you're still sending them out and if people can sign

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<v Speaker 2>up and all that, please.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they just if anyone wants to get free, you

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<v Speaker 1>just go to Wall Street Window dot com, just type

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<v Speaker 1>in your email and you'll get it a couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times a week.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the news.

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<v Speaker 1>This year, there's been a lot of talk about Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and the Federal Reserve and Trump warning interest rates lowered

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<v Speaker 1>and angry that the current Federal Reserve chairman isn't lowering them,

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<v Speaker 1>firing FED officials, trying to put pressure on the FED,

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. And what's obscured in all this is

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<v Speaker 1>there's interesting thing that happened last Friday, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>the Treasury Secretary interviewed candidates to become the next Federal

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<v Speaker 1>Reserve chairman. The pal's term expires in May next year,

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<v Speaker 1>so the Treasury Secretary Bessent is interviewing people. Well, what's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about that is when Powell was picked, Trump interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>him and others to be the new Federal Reserve chairman.

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<v Speaker 1>This time Trump isn't doing the interviews. The Treasury Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>is doing the interviews. So what I argued in my

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<v Speaker 1>email was that this whole narrative about Trump versus the Fed,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a narrative that's perfect for the discourse.

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<v Speaker 3>And the media.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all about Trump. But and people that want to

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<v Speaker 1>hate Trump or they worship Trump, they like.

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<v Speaker 3>To hear about him.

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<v Speaker 1>So the whole thing about the FED is about Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>when in reality, what's really happening is that the Treasury Secretary,

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<v Speaker 1>the Treasury Department is in effect taking over the Federal Reserve.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what is really happening. And the reason why that's

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<v Speaker 1>happening is because the Federal Reserve has had a mandate,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called a dual mandate, an official mandate to change

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<v Speaker 1>interest rates to try to keep inflation down and employment up.

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<v Speaker 1>So when there's a recession, they're lower rates to improve

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<v Speaker 1>the employment situation. And when there'd be an economic boom

741
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<v Speaker 1>inflation would appear, they'd raise rates, and you know, it's

742
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<v Speaker 1>sort of a Kenesian cycle too. But now the Treasure Department,

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<v Speaker 1>not just Trump, the Treasury Department once interest rates lowered,

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<v Speaker 1>while inflation is still around three percent the CPI official number,

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<v Speaker 1>and the stop markets at all time has and in

746
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<v Speaker 1>a high valuation, and there's no official recession, and unapployment

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't gone up in any dramatic way to justify law

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<v Speaker 1>and rates. So what's happening is they weren't the rates

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<v Speaker 1>lowered despite all that, And people should be asking why,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've said why, and that is because the debt situation,

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<v Speaker 1>the government debt situation is not stop shrinking, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>growing and it's growing and it's growing in DOGE failed

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<v Speaker 1>to change that situation despite what was promised. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the government debt this year is bigger than it was

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<v Speaker 1>last year, has bigger, it's going to be bigger next year.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is creating a situation where the interest on

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<v Speaker 1>the debt is now making up a bigger portion of

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<v Speaker 1>the budget, so they're trying to lower rates to make

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<v Speaker 1>the interest future interests lower. Uh and naturalere we're at

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<v Speaker 1>and the consequences of that are going to be more

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<v Speaker 1>inflation down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>And no one is saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>The media is not saying that because they just want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I got interesting reactions to the email. A few people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, said, I mean that, no one was angry. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>A few people said this is provocative and interesting and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, making me think about things now.

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<v Speaker 1>I got one response which was kind of I never

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<v Speaker 1>got an email like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Before, and it was very long, while.

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<v Speaker 1>Over a thousand words, and it was AI generated. You

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<v Speaker 1>could tell by the way it was written that it

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<v Speaker 1>was generated by AI. Most likely the person took what

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote and asked AI one of the arguments against this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and somebody fit out all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody copying, and at the end, somebody literally copied and

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<v Speaker 2>pasted your analysis into GROC and said, hey, Groc, how

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<v Speaker 2>do I respond to this, and then spit that email

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<v Speaker 2>back at you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, And I never had anyone do that before,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was interesting and amusing.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the kicker. The end conclude.

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<v Speaker 1>The email had all these different arguments, some of them

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<v Speaker 1>were contradictory, but then at the end they conclude by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>what people need to do is put all their money

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<v Speaker 1>in crypto.

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<v Speaker 3>They need to put.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a portion of their money in bitcoin for

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<v Speaker 1>safety and then buy at coins for growth, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the most reckless advice you know, a financial advisor could

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<v Speaker 1>give anyone, you know, and that's what this thing said

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And that's you know, it's just but you

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<v Speaker 1>got to realize if it was groc that didn't Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk and his friends are manipulating the crypto market and

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<v Speaker 1>hav an interest in getting people to believe and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>If you went to a.

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<v Speaker 1>Normal investment advisor, you know, almost all investment advisors in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States tell people to put a certain percentage

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<v Speaker 1>of money in stocks for their so called risk, a

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<v Speaker 1>certain percent in bonds for their so called safety.

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<v Speaker 3>And what this.

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<v Speaker 1>Was email was basically saying was bitcoin is safety and

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<v Speaker 1>all all coins are risk.

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<v Speaker 3>It's truly disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's so nor with these algorithms are people. So

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<v Speaker 1>I reply to the guy and I said, look, this

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<v Speaker 1>AI is not intelligent, nor is it wise. It just

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<v Speaker 1>spits out information.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, see there's the thing, because nowhere in there did

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<v Speaker 2>I hear anything about you know those uh, solid investments

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<v Speaker 2>I used to hear of, which was like what real estate,

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<v Speaker 2>precious metals, right, stable, stable bonds. These are all what

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<v Speaker 2>I what I used to think of as what we're

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<v Speaker 2>conservative investments.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had a massive amount of money and you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to put it into a safe place where it

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<v Speaker 2>would grow a little bit, you know what would they

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<v Speaker 2>tell you? Put it into a CD, put it into

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<v Speaker 2>you know these things that have you know, small payoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>but you don't You're not going to lose your money,

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<v Speaker 2>is the idea for the most part, up to a

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<v Speaker 2>certain point. You know, everything has risk. But the point

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<v Speaker 2>is that, you know, so long as the country doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>go bankrupt and you buy us bonds, you're good, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. And if you buy gold, it

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<v Speaker 2>usually won't go down in value anything that isn't commensurate

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<v Speaker 2>with the value of your dollars anyway, So not bad.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know the old adage about you know, buy

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<v Speaker 2>real estate. God ain't making any more of it, Okay, true,

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<v Speaker 2>but also a fairly good investment over time. If you

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<v Speaker 2>patiently leave it there and it's not about instant payoff,

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<v Speaker 2>one thing is almost certain it will go up in value, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean these are sort of just used to be

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00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:54.480
<v Speaker 2>common sense, I thought. But the AI didn't mention any

840
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 2>of that, did it. No, I didn't see this email, folks.

841
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm just guessing. But you know, why would something that's

842
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:04.840
<v Speaker 2>not in the real world bother to give you a

843
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:06.920
<v Speaker 2>real world answer? Is my question?

844
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:11.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, and I don't think you know, at some point,

845
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the future, we'll talk on the show

846
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:17.559
<v Speaker 1>about the Kennedy assassination these files is But right, I

847
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:20.440
<v Speaker 1>don't think AI has any use at all in trying

848
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:25.719
<v Speaker 1>to look through that stuff and it come to a conclusion.

849
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Well no, no, not to come to a conclusion. We

850
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:33.320
<v Speaker 2>could train an AI to organize these things better. That's

851
00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:37.559
<v Speaker 2>a possibility to organize things, you know, to give us

852
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:41.519
<v Speaker 2>a what would you call that a global index? You

853
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:45.320
<v Speaker 2>know that really covers the minutia that could be done

854
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:45.920
<v Speaker 2>by an AI.

855
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but I don't see how that's much different than

856
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:53.679
<v Speaker 1>what the Mary Farrell Foundation is doing on their website already.

857
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:57.480
<v Speaker 2>No, not much different. However, it could be, you know, again,

858
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:01.039
<v Speaker 2>a force multiplier, like most tools are. It could be

859
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:04.599
<v Speaker 2>a useful tool to do it in a more refined,

860
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:08.719
<v Speaker 2>in a faster and more efficient manner. That's possible, just

861
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:09.719
<v Speaker 2>like automation does.

862
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:10.039
<v Speaker 3>Right.

863
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:11.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, you could say.

864
00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm also afraid, yeah, good the people advocating it, and

865
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about you, but people who But now

866
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:21.199
<v Speaker 1>there's not that many people doing that, but the few

867
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:25.440
<v Speaker 1>that have advocated for that, you're saying the AI is

868
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:29.599
<v Speaker 1>going to cause a breakthrough. I'm afraid it's just an

869
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:31.760
<v Speaker 1>excuse to be lazy and not look at the files,

870
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:35.440
<v Speaker 1>just say well, this one day, Ai'll do it for me.

871
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Well that's a possibility, but that would be the same

872
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:42.039
<v Speaker 2>thing as you know, people saying, well, I'm waiting for

873
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:46.079
<v Speaker 2>the day we have flying cars. We might get there eventually,

874
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:47.840
<v Speaker 2>but I got to tell you, if you're waiting around

875
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:51.679
<v Speaker 2>for that, you might wait your whole life. It doesn't

876
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.480
<v Speaker 2>necessarily mean it's going to happen, so you know, and look,

877
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not advocating for it. I'm just saying that it

878
00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.840
<v Speaker 2>makes sense to use it in a way that would

879
00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:03.239
<v Speaker 2>be helpful to those who actually have to do the

880
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:07.639
<v Speaker 2>final analysis, Okay, but it doesn't mean that it is

881
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the solution. It means that it could be a tool.

882
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:13.199
<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm saying about it, And that's my opinion.

883
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.079
<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong. Look, I'm not saying I'm an

884
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:18.519
<v Speaker 2>expert on any of that. I mean, even though I

885
00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 2>am expert, you know, giving myself a headache looking at

886
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:25.760
<v Speaker 2>the files myself. But you know, every time I examine them,

887
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:28.719
<v Speaker 2>if I think about you know, and I recently made

888
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:31.559
<v Speaker 2>this observation, which, by the way, this whole like FED

889
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:34.599
<v Speaker 2>perception thing is funny to me because there was that

890
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:37.679
<v Speaker 2>whole FED perception about you know, JFK challenge the Fed.

891
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:40.400
<v Speaker 2>That's why he got shot, you know, because of the

892
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:44.559
<v Speaker 2>silver certificates and all that. And meanwhile, what it really

893
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:47.159
<v Speaker 2>ends up being, regardless of the politics and what people

894
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:50.159
<v Speaker 2>wanted to see in it, is that Kennedy actually handed

895
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:55.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot more power to what his Treasury secretary. It

896
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:59.440
<v Speaker 2>was over this very very small issue of the representative

897
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:03.360
<v Speaker 2>amount of over notes, you know, being distributed based on

898
00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:05.960
<v Speaker 2>the amount of silver on deposit at the bank. And

899
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:08.159
<v Speaker 2>then you got to put it in context, and this

900
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:11.679
<v Speaker 2>is something AI is not capable of doing is putting

901
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:15.360
<v Speaker 2>it in context. What does this really mean? You know?

902
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:20.079
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's that's where people are failing to understand.

903
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:22.000
<v Speaker 2>If you want the actual answer, you're not going to

904
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:23.800
<v Speaker 2>get it. It might help you organize a lot of

905
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:27.800
<v Speaker 2>data quickly, just like a computer is a much more

906
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:32.320
<v Speaker 2>efficient way. Let's say to distribute your written work. You know,

907
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.960
<v Speaker 2>you can type it out right now, Mike, pound out

908
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:38.039
<v Speaker 2>a thousand words, press a button, and it'll be in

909
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:40.400
<v Speaker 2>front of however many people you have on your email

910
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:44.079
<v Speaker 2>list instantly. Right in the past, you would have had

911
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.400
<v Speaker 2>to take that, go get it printed and make sure

912
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:48.320
<v Speaker 2>there were enough copies and then get them to people

913
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:50.519
<v Speaker 2>one way or another to put them in front of them.

914
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:56.000
<v Speaker 2>So a force multiplier that might increase the speed doesn't

915
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.960
<v Speaker 2>necessarily means that changes the quality of what's being written.

916
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:02.719
<v Speaker 2>That's the way I look at the AI situation. It's

917
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:06.920
<v Speaker 2>not intelligent, it's not you know, near the sci fi

918
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:11.440
<v Speaker 2>nightmare that it could be yet, But then again, I mean,

919
00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:16.079
<v Speaker 2>what would it be like if people believe that it is? Anyway,

920
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:18.840
<v Speaker 2>all of that having been said, Mike, I don't know

921
00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:21.920
<v Speaker 2>how to conclude this except yeah, go to Wall Street

922
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:24.840
<v Speaker 2>window dot com. I'll put a link in with the

923
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:26.800
<v Speaker 2>show notes and tell you to go there. You can

924
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:29.480
<v Speaker 2>sign up with the newsletter, and Mike's not charging you

925
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:32.320
<v Speaker 2>anything there. But if you do decide to give these

926
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:35.719
<v Speaker 2>master classes, I suggest you charge for them because they

927
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:40.519
<v Speaker 2>will be unique. I don't think anybody's doing, you know,

928
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:44.199
<v Speaker 2>real analysis when it comes to a lot of the

929
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:47.440
<v Speaker 2>stuff that you're gonna wind up talking about, and definitely

930
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:52.360
<v Speaker 2>not from your perspective, which you know. I always find

931
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:54.840
<v Speaker 2>it funny when when people have tried to like ascribe

932
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:57.840
<v Speaker 2>different things and tried to put, you know, guys like

933
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:01.440
<v Speaker 2>you into a box. It's Hilary. I've heard people try

934
00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:04.079
<v Speaker 2>to call you a liberal, and I'm like, Mike's not

935
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:07.079
<v Speaker 2>a liberal, And you know, whatever proof you think you

936
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:11.039
<v Speaker 2>might have for him being a liberal, it's your perception

937
00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:14.440
<v Speaker 2>that's getting bent here. You know you want a simple

938
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:17.159
<v Speaker 2>answer to that, Mike, you admitted on this show you

939
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:21.880
<v Speaker 2>voted for Trump. You're not exactly looking to You're not

940
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:25.920
<v Speaker 2>exactly looking to join the woke mob. I know that,

941
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:29.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're just a solid guy who wants real

942
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:33.079
<v Speaker 2>answers about things and actually would like to advise people

943
00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:35.719
<v Speaker 2>so that they don't get hurt in the markets more

944
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:39.639
<v Speaker 2>than you know doing a get rich quick scheme or

945
00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:43.559
<v Speaker 2>trying to capitalize on your influencer status or whatever else.

946
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:47.079
<v Speaker 2>That's not you. You know, you're not one of those guys.

947
00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:50.079
<v Speaker 2>And you're also not a grandpa who doesn't realize that.

948
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:54.360
<v Speaker 2>You know technology is coming clearly, you're using it, clearly,

949
00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:58.119
<v Speaker 2>you understand it's usefulness. But what you're saying is, don't

950
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:00.239
<v Speaker 2>rely on that to do your thinking for you, I

951
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:02.719
<v Speaker 2>think is your overall message. Unless I miss something here,

952
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:03.280
<v Speaker 2>is that right?

953
00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right, that's right.

954
00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:07.960
<v Speaker 2>So you know, at the end of the day, if

955
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:11.800
<v Speaker 2>you want a world where you know real thinking is valued,

956
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:13.760
<v Speaker 2>you're going to have to contribute to it by doing

957
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:16.440
<v Speaker 2>your own thinking. I don't know. Maybe that's the ultimate

958
00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:19.039
<v Speaker 2>conclusion here, But then again, Mike, maybe you have a

959
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:20.599
<v Speaker 2>different way that we should close this out.

960
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:26.079
<v Speaker 1>No, tell people's side of email list and and stay

961
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:30.559
<v Speaker 1>tuned exactly. We'll have more to say in the future.

962
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:32.119
<v Speaker 2>And I'd love to have a chat with you about

963
00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:33.519
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of things. I mean, if you want to

964
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:36.280
<v Speaker 2>talk about other media analysis. I don't know what movies

965
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:39.360
<v Speaker 2>or TV shows you've been enjoying but I got to

966
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:42.360
<v Speaker 2>tell you, the world of all of it is getting

967
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:47.079
<v Speaker 2>strangely distorted. And you know, is it just us getting old?

968
00:59:47.159 --> 00:59:48.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, we are similar age. I think Mike's a

969
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:52.119
<v Speaker 2>little younger than me, believe it or not. But you know,

970
00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:55.639
<v Speaker 2>and and oh, you're not coming to Dallas this year, right?

971
00:59:57.400 --> 00:59:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

972
00:59:58.079 --> 00:59:58.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm not.

973
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know for sweet it's what I'm doing, I'm

974
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:06.079
<v Speaker 1>going or not. I got something I won't know from

975
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:07.760
<v Speaker 1>four weeks, four weeks.

976
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:08.519
<v Speaker 3>I won't know from.

977
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Well if you do. I just had a guy on

978
01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:16.480
<v Speaker 2>named Paul Abbott, and I like him. He's interesting us.

979
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:18.920
<v Speaker 2>He's now doing a podcast in support of his book

980
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:20.960
<v Speaker 2>and all that. And I got to be honest with you,

981
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:24.119
<v Speaker 2>I think that the next time you release a book,

982
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you might want to borrow from some of what Paul's

983
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:33.800
<v Speaker 2>doing because I like it. I think it's it's a

984
01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:38.039
<v Speaker 2>good diversified way to get people to read your stuff

985
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:42.960
<v Speaker 2>and to digest it. And I like him a lot.

986
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:45.599
<v Speaker 2>He's one of my big suggestions for being a presenter

987
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:48.480
<v Speaker 2>this year. And he focuses on the death of Lee

988
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Harvey Oswald and you know all the things that went

989
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:55.199
<v Speaker 2>into that because that's another thing that occurred that weekend

990
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Let's not forget in Dallas. And I'm looking very forward

991
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:04.760
<v Speaker 2>to his analysis and discussion about the events of that

992
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:10.360
<v Speaker 2>weekend in November nineteen sixty three. And also I'm hoping

993
01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:11.760
<v Speaker 2>to get a little time to hang out with the guy.

994
01:01:11.800 --> 01:01:15.159
<v Speaker 2>He's really interesting. So if you do make it, I

995
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:17.400
<v Speaker 2>think we should all at least either make the trip

996
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:19.800
<v Speaker 2>to Campezi's or have lunch or something.

997
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Because oh, sure that'd be awesome, you know, I mean,

998
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to go. I just I don't know. I

999
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:31.000
<v Speaker 1>got somethinge a family thing, I don't know.

1000
01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:34.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, look, I don't want to pressure you. I'm just

1001
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.960
<v Speaker 2>saying obviously, I love it when you're there because it's

1002
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:39.599
<v Speaker 2>always good to see a friend. And yeah, Mike full disclosure,

1003
01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:42.960
<v Speaker 2>is a friend of the show, friend of mine, and

1004
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.280
<v Speaker 2>that's not why I appreciate his work. I appreciated his

1005
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:49.119
<v Speaker 2>work before we became friendly, but very glad that you

1006
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:53.400
<v Speaker 2>are still out there. And man, I got to tell you,

1007
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:55.599
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is you do, I hope that you'll come

1008
01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:58.159
<v Speaker 2>here and we'll try and support in best best way

1009
01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:02.559
<v Speaker 2>we can. You know, anything that you do. And he's

1010
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:05.480
<v Speaker 2>also yes, a sponsor of the show and one of

1011
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the few that remains. So you know, and that again

1012
01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:11.119
<v Speaker 2>is not why I'm singing his praises. If I thought

1013
01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:14.239
<v Speaker 2>it was bad, I'd be critiquing everything. But I highly

1014
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:18.480
<v Speaker 2>recommend The War State Why the Vietnam War. Mike's book

1015
01:02:18.519 --> 01:02:21.840
<v Speaker 2>on Danville, Virginia. Now I'm not familiar with the baseline

1016
01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:25.440
<v Speaker 2>material there, but my understanding is it's a solid book

1017
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:25.880
<v Speaker 2>as well.

1018
01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:16.599
<v Speaker 4>In Denial Secret Wars with Air Strikes and Tanks by

1019
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:21.159
<v Speaker 4>Larry Hancock. Secret wars became a staple of US covert

1020
01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:25.079
<v Speaker 4>operations and are still happening today. Larry Hancock's book In

1021
01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:29.039
<v Speaker 4>Denial rips the cover off many of them, using new files.

1022
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:31.440
<v Speaker 4>It exposes things about the Bay of Pigs that no

1023
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:34.519
<v Speaker 4>one has ever written about before. It shows why it

1024
01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:37.079
<v Speaker 4>really failed and why the United States did not.

1025
01:04:37.199 --> 01:04:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Learn from it. It also shows why other countries today

1026
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:43.920
<v Speaker 2>are doing secret operations with more success. This is the

1027
01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:47.679
<v Speaker 2>book that puts what some want to deny into the light.

1028
01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:53.199
<v Speaker 2>In Denial, Secret Wars with Air Strikes and Tanks Larry Hancock.

1029
01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:58.039
<v Speaker 2>For more information, go to Larry hyphen Handcock dot com.

1030
01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Pick up your copy of In Denial at Amazon dot

1031
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Com in Digital or Physical Force dot Com radio.

1032
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:15.559
<v Speaker 5>The War State by Michael Swanson explains the great national

1033
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.599
<v Speaker 5>transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency in

1034
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:22.079
<v Speaker 5>the context of the times and reveals never before published

1035
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:25.800
<v Speaker 5>information about the Cuban missile crisis. President Kennedy would not

1036
01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:28.440
<v Speaker 5>have been assassinated if he had been president two hundred

1037
01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:31.880
<v Speaker 5>years ago. His assassination took place in the context of

1038
01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:34.880
<v Speaker 5>the Cold War and the rise of the national security state.

1039
01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:38.519
<v Speaker 5>Before World War II, the United States was a continental republic.

1040
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:41.920
<v Speaker 5>In the decade that followed, it became an imperial superpower.

1041
01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:45.800
<v Speaker 5>Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade Cuba,

1042
01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:48.079
<v Speaker 5>but knew that there were short range missiles on the

1043
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:51.239
<v Speaker 5>island aren't with nuclear warheads that they could not destroy

1044
01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:54.199
<v Speaker 5>because they were on mobile launchers. Their invasion could have

1045
01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:57.280
<v Speaker 5>led to a Third World War, and they wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>go to war anyway. The War State by Michael Swanson

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<v Speaker 5>reveals why, and we'll show you what President Kennedy was

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<v Speaker 5>up against. For more information, The War State dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Revel go ahead, Carlin in The Truth about the JAFA assassination.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, what do you want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Duddy Baker's wild claim Oswald girlfriend he knew Ruby and

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<v Speaker 1>Barry answer weapons, Really.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine I could claim I have four wheels. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make me a wagon.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, Oswald was on the building and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent the murder of John Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on now, has a.

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<v Speaker 1>Real effort on the day of hay assassination. Book into

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<v Speaker 1>her claim.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker in her

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<v Speaker 2>own words. You'll get the results for a digital copy

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<v Speaker 2>of a book where Walt Brown utilizes her own words

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<v Speaker 2>and the known evidence in the case to get at

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<v Speaker 2>well a different perspective. Let's say you can get Judith

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<v Speaker 2>Barry Baker in her own words from the author himself,

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<v Speaker 2>signed if you request it by contacting doctor Brown at

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<v Speaker 2>KIA s j F K at A O L dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fun book and it actually dissects the many,

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<v Speaker 2>many fantastic claims Judith very Baker in her own words.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for all the great information.

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<v Speaker 3>Elation.

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<v Speaker 1>You are the fact colence broken Comsion