Speaker 1: Get ready, oh man, April eighteen, twenty twenty five, allegedly
Speaker 1: according to that thing we call a calendar.
Speaker 2: I think that's right. Anyway, it is Friday night, and
Speaker 2: that means it's time for the open mic, and of
Speaker 2: course I got to air late, so this will not
Speaker 2: even be a full two hour podcast unless I run
Speaker 2: over clock eight too, and then screw everything up for
Speaker 2: the rest of the night because at ten pm Eastern
Speaker 2: we're supposed to start the Age of Transitions and uncle
Speaker 2: the broadcast at eleven, which means from eight pm to
Speaker 2: about midnight or a little there after we're live here
Speaker 2: on ochelly dot com Radio. But most of you don't
Speaker 2: care because you just catch the podcasts anyway, which means
Speaker 2: you can't call into this show, which means you suck
Speaker 2: for our purposes tonight three one nine five two seven
Speaker 2: five zero one six, that's the number to call.
Speaker 3: Four.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm still trying to sort out what we're gonna
Speaker 2: do when we have to switch off of the Skype platform,
Speaker 2: not because I use Skype as a call in number,
Speaker 2: but because I use it as part of the system
Speaker 2: here and May fifth it's going anyway. Three one nine
Speaker 2: five two seven five zero one six. I'm gonna try
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Speaker 2: them and start paying somebody else. Three one nine five
Speaker 2: two seven five zero one six. That's the number to call,
Speaker 2: and you can join us here live on the air
Speaker 2: and talk to us about anything you want. Gotta say,
Speaker 2: it was an interesting day. The President of the United
Speaker 2: States went out and read off somebody's domestic violence record
Speaker 2: in the White House. Never thought i'd see that in
Speaker 2: my I would not have had that on my crazy
Speaker 2: Bengo card. It didn't matter if it was Trump, if
Speaker 2: it was Bieden mumbling about Teddy Bears, I would not
Speaker 2: have guessed that even an insane person would have done that.
Speaker 2: But Donald Trump did it today. And now we're being
Speaker 2: told that the guy that we were being told was
Speaker 2: innocent is not so innocent because he's a gangbanger and
Speaker 2: he was beating his wife and so on and so forth.
Speaker 2: Gotta tell you. I also went through a discussion with
Speaker 2: somebody about how bad I can be made to look
Speaker 2: if I got dragged off to Al Salvador. And I
Speaker 2: wonder if anybody's gonna consider that nas screw it, get
Speaker 2: rid of the gangbangers, I know. Anyway, does that matter? Hey,
Speaker 2: he got out some more stuff and we have MLK
Speaker 2: and RFK documentation that was sitting at the National Archives,
Speaker 2: and some stuff that wasn't waiting to be processed now
Speaker 2: being processed, now being made available. I don't know what
Speaker 2: to think of it yet because I haven't been through
Speaker 2: it all, but it did come out. Let's see today.
Speaker 2: From what I can tell, I think it's marked on
Speaker 2: the NARA website for the eighteenth looks like it is. Anyway,
Speaker 2: that's available to you today, and I'm trying to figure
Speaker 2: out who it is we're gonna invite to answer to
Speaker 2: talk about MLK and RFK because I'm on that planning committee.
Speaker 2: Maybe you guys want to talk to me about that.
Speaker 2: Maybe you got other things in mind. Anyway. Three one
Speaker 2: nine five two seven five zero one six BP. How's
Speaker 2: your week been.
Speaker 3: It's been pretty good. I've been able to finally relax some.
Speaker 3: It's been great. But then we'll get out every day,
Speaker 3: go for a walk, just some stuff done around the house.
Speaker 3: I'm enjoying retired life.
Speaker 2: Enjoying retiring, Yeah right, because you were working like constantly
Speaker 2: and now you're not, uh.
Speaker 3: Well, before.
Speaker 4: I mean, the schedule was I had about thirty six
Speaker 4: hours home over the weekend. That was it, unless I
Speaker 4: was traveling to doing work and then traveling back. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm really enjoying this. I can finally get some craps
Speaker 4: done around here.
Speaker 2: Well, you did have a lot of crap to get
Speaker 2: done around there. I remember, God, was it almost two
Speaker 2: years ago that you started talking about working on the yard?
Speaker 4: Two and a half almost three years, I've still got
Speaker 4: a tonne of landscaping to do. I mean, being gone
Speaker 4: like I was before, even.
Speaker 3: On the other project.
Speaker 4: It was, you know, sitting down any time during the
Speaker 4: week at all, and had two days on the weekend.
Speaker 4: Now I can play in my days out, work around
Speaker 4: the weather, and enjoy crap. I mean, it's nice to
Speaker 4: be able to walk downtown to get cigarettes, you know,
Speaker 4: and you know, spend spend time in town.
Speaker 3: It's nice, enjoy it.
Speaker 2: You know what I often end up doing when I've
Speaker 2: got any sort of free time if I know anything
Speaker 2: about where I'm living, as I find a place to
Speaker 2: shoot pool if I've got you know, time, and I
Speaker 2: don't know, a friend and a few dollars because I
Speaker 2: don't like shooting by myself. But you know, but if
Speaker 2: I go out, I mean.
Speaker 4: That's something that once I get done doing what I
Speaker 4: got to do the house, I could go and get
Speaker 4: my old.
Speaker 3: Pool table back from the guy I sold it to.
Speaker 3: He hasn't even put it back together yet. It's still
Speaker 3: in his basement. So I could get that bad bring
Speaker 3: it back to set it up.
Speaker 4: I've got room to do it. It's time that there's
Speaker 4: a section of the house that was built over and
Speaker 4: exists in the concrete porch, and so they left the
Speaker 4: concrete in place and Florida over the top of it.
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of play in there.
Speaker 4: But I'm thinking of going in there, reinforcing that floor,
Speaker 4: taking all the way down flat to the concrete, and
Speaker 4: then put my pool table.
Speaker 3: In that room.
Speaker 4: I don't have to worry about it getting out a
Speaker 4: level or keeping it adjusted and crap like that, because
Speaker 4: it gets expensive maintaining a big pool gable.
Speaker 2: Hey, let me ask you a weird sort of housekeeping question,
Speaker 2: and not housekeeping but really like a home improvement question.
Speaker 2: How difficult do you think it is to take care
Speaker 2: of the piece of pipe on a basic kitchen sink? Right?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: From let's just say you got you got a leaky sink,
Speaker 2: you got bad pipe going from you know, the sink
Speaker 2: to the floor, and you don't want to replace anything,
Speaker 2: but you want to just patch it all back together.
Speaker 2: And it's mostly a PBC mess. That shouldn't be all
Speaker 2: that difficult to do, should it.
Speaker 4: Well, depending on where the leaks are, if it's at
Speaker 4: a joint, I mean you could.
Speaker 3: PVC is pretty cheap.
Speaker 4: You could replace most of the pipe under your sink,
Speaker 4: I would think for under fifteen bucks. Okay, But and
Speaker 4: the products that they make now allow for a lot
Speaker 4: of the safe free space where before everything was metal
Speaker 4: pipes and it was trimmed exactly to the joints and
Speaker 4: everything else. Right, you can go in there today, pop
Speaker 4: your drain off, your trap, off your pipe going into
Speaker 4: your drain, and they make a lot of flexible stuff
Speaker 4: that has sections in it that are either rubber booted
Speaker 4: so that they will adjust.
Speaker 3: It's real simple.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's really you could probably do it, I
Speaker 4: know for under twenty probably replace every pipe under the sink.
Speaker 3: Is it a double sink or a single sink?
Speaker 2: It's a double Well.
Speaker 4: There's just your PVC have crossed over to the main
Speaker 4: train straight down, and a lot of these under below
Speaker 4: your trap.
Speaker 3: You just get this piece.
Speaker 4: A lot of them have a flexible boot that allows
Speaker 4: you to you don't have to line up perfectly and
Speaker 4: you just screw the clamp down and you're done a
Speaker 4: lot of gluing and crap like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, that's what I was thinking, is like, if
Speaker 2: you wanted to shortcut it, you get like one of
Speaker 2: those cans of flexical Maybe, yeah you can.
Speaker 4: I mean there are certain products you can use that'll
Speaker 4: seal PVC. The problem with PVC is once it gets
Speaker 4: a crack in it, if that open crack will start aging,
Speaker 4: and the crack can get bigger and eventually it.
Speaker 3: Could just crumble. I mean, PVC's only rated for so long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking that the worst it would be
Speaker 2: would be like forty dollars worth of stuff, and then
Speaker 2: trying to figure out, see, if my eyesight didn't suck,
Speaker 2: I would do it. But I can visualize how to
Speaker 2: do it, but I can't really get it done.
Speaker 4: At least everything they have now you pay a little
Speaker 4: more for it, but you can get non glue fittings.
Speaker 3: Where you're not having to cut your pie glue together.
Speaker 3: But PVC is really simple though for people that aren't
Speaker 3: used to be.
Speaker 4: And doing DYI stuff. You get a good can or
Speaker 4: good brand of glue, right, and basically it's you know,
Speaker 4: you cut your you lay everything out and cut your plastic.
Speaker 4: You don't even need you know, a big saw to
Speaker 4: do it. It's simple. I've got a pocket knife I
Speaker 4: can cut tall PVC with. But you can put everything together.
Speaker 4: And glue is just simply all the way around. Smear
Speaker 4: it all and stick it together and give it a minute.
Speaker 4: It's setting up.
Speaker 2: Fair and simple, fair enough. And look, you never know
Speaker 2: what we're going to discuss on this show. And we
Speaker 2: also got a caller already, but remind you guys again
Speaker 2: if you're listening Live three one nine, and that's by
Speaker 2: the way, if it's let's see, what time is it.
Speaker 2: I know we started late, but it's about seventeen minutes
Speaker 2: after eight pm Eastern, all right, which means it's uh,
Speaker 2: let's see on the West coast, that would be five seventeen,
Speaker 2: wouldn't it five seventeen? Anyway, Sorry about your dinner time
Speaker 2: or whatever, but probably you're eating dinner late if you're
Speaker 2: listening to us, hopefully you are Anyways, I noticed we
Speaker 2: do have one caller three one nine five two seven
Speaker 2: five zero one six. I'd like to hear about anything
Speaker 2: and everything. And if you heard my news show from
Speaker 2: last night, you know, I'm kind of like just depressed
Speaker 2: about everything I'm reading because I almost don't care about
Speaker 2: the news. And that's a weird thing for me. I
Speaker 2: don't remember in my lifetime not giving a crap about
Speaker 2: the news anymore. But that's where I'm at. And I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people are like that unless they're
Speaker 2: looking for their moment of outrage, and I'm just not
Speaker 2: looking to be outraged anymore. I'm sick and tired of it. Anyway,
Speaker 2: maybe you are, maybe you aren't. Maybe you think I'm
Speaker 2: an idiot. Call in tell me about it. I'll let you.
Speaker 2: Looks like we got Danny on the line, so I'm
Speaker 2: going to bring him on. Danny. Did I thank you
Speaker 2: last week for sending the package or did I not? Yes?
Speaker 3: You did, Okay, You're more than welcome.
Speaker 2: Okay. I want to make sure that I got that across,
Speaker 2: because I really appreciated that, and uh and I wanted
Speaker 2: to thank you personally, and I just couldn't remember if
Speaker 2: I did it last week or I meant to do
Speaker 2: it last week because I get confused to be honest
Speaker 2: with you. Anyway, Great, So how are you what's on
Speaker 2: your mind this week? Brother?
Speaker 5: Well, it's good Friday.
Speaker 6: And I concur with Bpte because Peet's it was so
Speaker 6: much easier for plumbing, you know, basic plumbing than the
Speaker 6: trying to retrofit pipes or trying to fix you know, galvanies. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I agree, it's cheap, it's easy to easy to work with.
Speaker 2: Well, I want you guys to yeah, Danny and Bpete,
Speaker 2: I want both of you guys to know that I
Speaker 2: really appreciate this because I have no face to face friends,
Speaker 2: so I've got no other guys to check with. You know,
Speaker 2: guys do this right, a lot of us, you know. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna tell a little secret. I
Speaker 2: know we don't. We have like next to zero women listening, okay,
Speaker 2: and that's what the demographics show me across the board.
Speaker 2: Podcast live doesn't matter. There's almost no women listening. Okay.
Speaker 2: So if you are a woman listening, I'm about to
Speaker 2: reveal a guy secret. Ready, Guys of all kinds, okay,
Speaker 2: whether they're the handy guys, or they're not the handy guys.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they surprise you and they show up and they
Speaker 2: can do stuff, and you go, wait a minute, I
Speaker 2: didn't even realize that guy could figure that out. He
Speaker 2: could fix this for me, or help me out with
Speaker 2: this thing, or do this or do this around the house.
Speaker 2: I know you're not supposed to be like that, because
Speaker 2: you know women could do it to whatever. Okay, let's
Speaker 2: be real. The guy all of a sudden surprises you know,
Speaker 2: you know how he does it. He checks with other guys.
Speaker 2: That's what I just did with Bpte. And now Danny's
Speaker 2: helping me out because Dan he's been helped out, and
Speaker 2: so is b Pete at some point. Now b Pete's
Speaker 2: more of a rugged guy. I'm willing to bet he's
Speaker 2: more of a rugged guy than Danny, but both of
Speaker 2: them are probably probably both of them are probably more
Speaker 2: rugged guys with their hands than I am. So I'm
Speaker 2: checking with both of them right now to make sure
Speaker 2: that what I'm seeing and what i'm thinking, what i'm
Speaker 2: you know, imagining as a guy is correct. And that's
Speaker 2: what I just did with his PBC pipe. Then, except
Speaker 2: that be Pete's filling in some more details for me,
Speaker 2: and I'm making mental notes. Okay, I'm just revealing what's
Speaker 2: happening in this conversation Danny. I'm making guesses. I've never
Speaker 2: seen Danny face to face. I don't know he could
Speaker 2: be the ultimate handy man as far as I would
Speaker 2: not know. I'm guessing, but I know B Pete, and
Speaker 2: I know B Pete's pretty versatile with his hands. Can
Speaker 2: do a lot of stuff. He can work on his
Speaker 2: own car, he can work on his own house. He
Speaker 2: can do a lot of things. Okay, I'm not that guy.
Speaker 2: I never happened. You want your computer fixed, I can
Speaker 2: usually help you. Okay, you want your audio equipment, there's
Speaker 2: something wrong with your TV, old or new, even I
Speaker 2: can help you. Some of these guys can't. Okay, some
Speaker 2: of the handy guys can't. They don't know what to
Speaker 2: do with that stuff. So what they do is they
Speaker 2: check with a guy like me. That's what goes on
Speaker 2: with guys when they socialize. Now, because I don't have
Speaker 2: friends in real life, I did that with be Pete
Speaker 2: right here on the radio. So I'm sorry. I wanted
Speaker 2: to reveal that to any female listener that could be
Speaker 2: listening and who knows, maybe guys who don't know this
Speaker 2: secret yet.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm concerned. I mean, why don't we have more
Speaker 4: female listeners?
Speaker 2: We have not in years and years.
Speaker 4: Maybe we need to address that. What can we do
Speaker 4: to attract more women?
Speaker 2: Have I looked? If you've got ideas, my brother, please
Speaker 2: either lay them out on the show or let's get
Speaker 2: to work with a you know, the think tank, because
Speaker 2: I used to have female Matter of fact, at one
Speaker 2: point I had way more female listeners than I did male.
Speaker 2: And then back in twenty I want to say twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: I did a show about how there's only about three
Speaker 2: percent of women in the entire world that aren't hookers
Speaker 2: on one level or another. And at that point I
Speaker 2: had a massive drop in my female listenership. And I
Speaker 2: did that with with Sherry Wisdom on the show, and
Speaker 2: she was like trying to deny it and trying to
Speaker 2: fight it, and toward the end she kind of gave
Speaker 2: in and said that I was right about this whole dynamic,
Speaker 2: you know, sort of like what that guy Jeffery said,
Speaker 2: The comedian said, you know, ugly women don't know how
Speaker 2: much drinks the only ugly women know how much drinks cost,
Speaker 2: you know, stuff like that. And I was angry at
Speaker 2: that point, and I did a show, and yeah, I
Speaker 2: evaporated the female listen and he kept eroding and kept eroding.
Speaker 2: And there's very few of them out there. I mean literally,
Speaker 2: there's probably less than a dozen women that listen to
Speaker 2: this show at this point, according to the demographics, according
Speaker 2: to all of the metrics. That's where we're at. And
Speaker 2: listenership has been shrinking on me anyway, because I'm not
Speaker 2: either a on the Trump train or screaming like the
Speaker 2: Midas Network. So because I'm not doing one of those
Speaker 2: two extreme things, people are going away from me. And
Speaker 2: there was a whole exodus based on anti Trump sentiment
Speaker 2: that I had. So basically I've destroyed stuff. But the
Speaker 2: loss of female listenership have nothing to do with Trump.
Speaker 4: But with the loss with you not being on the
Speaker 4: Trump train, you think you would attract the number one
Speaker 4: demographic against Trump, and that's liberal college educated women, or
Speaker 4: they just don't have time because they're always sitting around
Speaker 4: pitching about shit.
Speaker 2: But they But see, you got to remember, I'm not
Speaker 2: a liberal, you know. I I believe in the Second
Speaker 2: Amendment right and and other things. I think drug prohibition
Speaker 2: is idiotic. Okay, so I'm a bad guy.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't like I don't call the police.
Speaker 2: I don't like them. I don't like family Services. I
Speaker 2: think they're an evil Uh, they're an evil network. I'm
Speaker 2: a bad guy.
Speaker 3: Trust me.
Speaker 4: Any college liberal college educated, liberal white woman would appreciate
Speaker 4: child Services if they had to deal with them either. No,
Speaker 4: that's you know, that's that's one thing i'm you know
Speaker 4: that you talk about a protective white privilege.
Speaker 3: That's where your white privilege resides. Yes, because liberal white
Speaker 3: college educated women.
Speaker 2: Yes, Because if you white privilege to a team, you
Speaker 2: are absolutely correct. Because if you live in a white
Speaker 2: middle class neighborhood, they do not treat you the same
Speaker 2: way with your CPS whatever they call it in your state.
Speaker 2: In New Jersey we called it DYFIS. Here they call
Speaker 2: it defacts. In Georgia. Other places they just call it CPS,
Speaker 2: child protective services whatever they call it. Okay, your health
Speaker 2: and human service branch near you that interferes with your
Speaker 2: life the moment they think they can guess what. They
Speaker 2: don't treat people in the white middle class neighborhood the
Speaker 2: same way they do a lot of us elsewhere, okay,
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you that that's a double edge cutting
Speaker 2: nasty because they either fail the kids completely and you know,
Speaker 2: leave them in places where their parents kill them one
Speaker 2: or they interfere in good meaning, well meaning people's lives
Speaker 2: to an unnecessary level and torture people that can't afford
Speaker 2: to walk through all the paces and all the crap
Speaker 2: and try to take your kids from you. They interfere
Speaker 2: in people's lives to a degree where they don't belong,
Speaker 2: or they ignore people and pets through it where they should.
Speaker 2: They're totally off kilter when it comes out. They should
Speaker 2: be handling things with every other place unless you're in
Speaker 2: nice white neighborhood. Seriously, okay. And occasionally they you know,
Speaker 2: you see on YouTube somebody tells them to f off
Speaker 2: and get off my property and you're trespassing, and they win.
Speaker 2: But that's not the majority of what happens. And believe me,
Speaker 2: they bring cops with them and everything else and kick
Speaker 2: in your door like you were I don't know, a
Speaker 2: gun runner in some places because somebody accused you of
Speaker 2: smacking your kid. If you're in the wrong neighborhood, and
Speaker 2: it's just no, I can't stand those people. And if
Speaker 2: you call I've had incidents where somebody threatened to call
Speaker 2: them on me, and I said, okay, you know what,
Speaker 2: you're now extracted from my life. I don't care if
Speaker 2: I'm blood related to you, You're gone. You don't threaten
Speaker 2: me with that. You're better off pointing a gun at
Speaker 2: my face. I will take it as less of a
Speaker 2: threat than pointing one of those agencies at me.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, and you think about a lot of
Speaker 4: government institutions that the poor people have to deal with,
Speaker 4: or let's say, let's less economically advantaged people have to
Speaker 4: deal with, and you can see some big changes.
Speaker 3: If Karen down the street, you know, had to deal
Speaker 3: with it instead of calling for the man.
Speaker 4: I mean, her biggest, her biggest thread in life is
Speaker 4: having to deal with the manager at Costco.
Speaker 3: When something's not right. Yes, getting involved with these.
Speaker 4: Government agencies coming at them, not coming to support them,
Speaker 4: but coming at them.
Speaker 3: You see a lot of craft change.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it. And the thing is and when
Speaker 2: I when I had to face it last time, right,
Speaker 2: the last time I even dealt with those people in
Speaker 2: New Jersey, was the most ridiculous thing in the world.
Speaker 2: I had just gotten like basically separated from my then
Speaker 2: first wife, which I am so grateful to the universe
Speaker 2: that she dropped dead when she got served with papers
Speaker 2: from me. But anyway, I said that, Did I just
Speaker 2: say that out loud? I did? Anyway? Point is, uh,
Speaker 2: she said them after me because my son got out
Speaker 2: of my control early one morning when she sent them
Speaker 2: to me when I was sleeping on the couch at
Speaker 2: a friend's house and she gave me my son for
Speaker 2: the overnight because she wanted to go out, and I
Speaker 2: had him in a packing play. The kid got outside,
Speaker 2: the cops got involved, all this stuff went on, and
Speaker 2: she's making promises to them in one of these Karens.
Speaker 2: This is this is me dealing with like a girl
Speaker 2: who's like twenty two, who's got a degree in social work,
Speaker 2: who shows up and she's talking to me, and she says, uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: well you didn't answer the door right away and this
Speaker 2: and that. I said, well, was seven in the morning
Speaker 2: and I was up half the night nervous that I
Speaker 2: had my son with me for the first time, and yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't answer the door at seven am. The first
Speaker 2: time the cops knocked on it. She turned that into
Speaker 2: maybe you have a drug issue. No evidence, no nothing,
Speaker 2: and then she said, I already have some records here.
Speaker 2: She had pulled records on me that I couldn't believe
Speaker 2: she had pulled on me, had gotten you know, something
Speaker 2: that I had made a suicide attempt a while back,
Speaker 2: and said, well, you tried to do it with drugs,
Speaker 2: so maybe you have a drug problem. I said, are
Speaker 2: you a moron? You know, trying to kill yourself with
Speaker 2: pills doesn't imply that you're an addict. Do you not
Speaker 2: know one problem from another? Well, I think you need
Speaker 2: to go to the drug program and the parenting program.
Speaker 2: Otherwise I'm going to take away your ability to see
Speaker 2: your child. I said, you know what, get the hell
Speaker 2: out of here, woman, leave, I have done talking to you.
Speaker 4: That's the problem, though, is these agencies have a lot
Speaker 4: of power to ruin people's lives and force them into
Speaker 4: you know, basically bankruptcy to be able to perform, you know,
Speaker 4: jump through all these SUPs.
Speaker 3: So you need to have to go to this class.
Speaker 4: But it's going to cost you, and you need to
Speaker 4: do this, and it's going to cost you and We're
Speaker 4: going to have people show up on weekends when you
Speaker 4: get kids to supervise, and that's going to cost you, right,
Speaker 4: And it's like, you know, you're not dealing with the problem.
Speaker 4: You're just providing a bunch of services that aren't needed
Speaker 4: and charging people for them so that you can pay
Speaker 4: the payroll of the people that are doing the shit.
Speaker 4: It's something as simple as I got pulled for a DUI.
Speaker 4: My lawyer says, look, before this goes to trial, they're
Speaker 4: going to recommend that you go to this assessment course
Speaker 4: to see if you have a drinking problem. I said, okay,
Speaker 4: I said, so how do we get around And he says,
Speaker 4: you don't you go first, go before we go to trial.
Speaker 3: You're going to have to go anyway, So you.
Speaker 4: Pay the fee, you go. You get done interviewing with
Speaker 4: this asshole, and he looks at you and I said, okay,
Speaker 4: well how'd I score? Well? I determined that you don't
Speaker 4: have a drinking problem, but I'm still going to recommend
Speaker 4: you for the program.
Speaker 3: I said, well wait.
Speaker 4: A minute, I'm you know I came here to avoid
Speaker 4: the program. You just admitted and have in writing right
Speaker 4: there in your notes that you don't find me having
Speaker 4: a drinking problem, but you're going to recommend me for
Speaker 4: a program anyway. Well, the reason is we're self If
Speaker 4: we don't refer people to the program, then we don't
Speaker 4: have people in the program, we don't make any money
Speaker 4: on the program, and the program closes down.
Speaker 3: Oh were you motherfucker?
Speaker 2: Well, isn't that an honest scumbag? You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Exactly, But this is the point exactly. But this is
Speaker 4: the contract. This is some contract counselor that the court
Speaker 4: system pays there in the county to take in these cases.
Speaker 4: He's making fifty don't held the price now probably up
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy five dollars more than likely one
Speaker 4: hundred dollars for people to pay him to go in
Speaker 4: there and say, we're going to put you in this
Speaker 4: program that you don't need.
Speaker 3: But if I don't put you in it, I don't
Speaker 3: have a job.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you another that's government bureaucracy right there,
Speaker 4: staring you in the face of what could you do?
Speaker 4: You go to court and complain? Well, he said I
Speaker 4: didn't have a problem, but he puts me in a program,
Speaker 4: so it's self supported. Well, yes, because all those court
Speaker 4: costs that you pay aren't going to pay anything towards
Speaker 4: that program. So I got to find their own a
Speaker 4: source of income. Yeah, fine, we don't have a problem
Speaker 4: with that, right.
Speaker 2: And here's the other thing. Okay, ready to be pat
Speaker 2: Even if you do resist these things and you properly
Speaker 2: thread their needles and everything else, I'll screw you because
Speaker 2: Kim went through this and I advised her. They showed
Speaker 2: up one day because one of her teenage kids decided
Speaker 2: to you know, spout off because somehow a social worker
Speaker 2: was called on her from school. You know, she did
Speaker 2: something in school, so it got reported. So here they come,
Speaker 2: and they show up when she's no longer even living
Speaker 2: in the house with her kids. Right, this is when
Speaker 2: her and I first got together. And they're like, basically,
Speaker 2: this woman's got a cup in her hand demanding a
Speaker 2: urine test from Kim. I said, keyword, Kim, warrant because
Speaker 2: f you, you don't have a right to demand a
Speaker 2: urine test from anybody. And this woman looked at me
Speaker 2: like I was crazy. I said, you asked the cop
Speaker 2: over there. If I'm not lying, Kim, don't give them
Speaker 2: a damn thing. And well, they're going to just assume this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're gonna do that anyway, But you're not going to
Speaker 2: give them evidence or something that they can turn around
Speaker 2: and say, whatever, we have a questionable sample at the
Speaker 2: lab and blah blah blah. Even if your urine is clean,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Do not submit. And I'm telling it
Speaker 2: was like the wildest thing because this kid turned around
Speaker 2: and was angry at Kin because she had just you know,
Speaker 2: split up with her then spouse who she left to
Speaker 2: be with me. Okay, and that that's that's what went on.
Speaker 2: So vindictive jerks get involved and then they need funding,
Speaker 2: so they run you through the ringer and they get
Speaker 2: you to go to these different programs and they assess
Speaker 2: you and all these other things to justify their existence.
Speaker 2: So no, I don't have any use for them. And uh, anyway,
Speaker 2: but you see the the but you asked me, right,
Speaker 2: the the educated liberal woman they believe in this crap.
Speaker 2: This is the only thing that's going to keep us
Speaker 2: from mass shootings.
Speaker 3: This is the only or the majority of them when
Speaker 3: they have jobs. If it wasn't for pros like that shit.
Speaker 2: Well, that was the other thing I was going to say,
Speaker 2: and I held myself back. But you know what, since
Speaker 2: you said it, I'm going to tell you right now,
Speaker 2: that's the whole workforce for CPS is those women. That's
Speaker 2: their entire workforce. So you know what, don't listen to me,
Speaker 2: all right, But I don't like it that we've got,
Speaker 2: you know, one percent female listenership. What am I supposed
Speaker 2: to less than one?
Speaker 4: Well, I can understand it now, I guess I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess I missed the days. I missed the days
Speaker 4: of my youth when you could go out, you had
Speaker 4: a group of friends.
Speaker 3: They were male, they were females.
Speaker 4: Some of them were couples, some of them all most
Speaker 4: of them were singles. But you had a mix of
Speaker 4: people that you could get together with on the weekends
Speaker 4: and discuss anything in the world.
Speaker 3: And it stayed in the group. I mean, everybody remained friends,
Speaker 3: even though we.
Speaker 4: Used to have some very passionate and loud political discussions. Sure,
Speaker 4: you know enough that the manager would come over and say, hey,
Speaker 4: can you guys kind of tone it down or we're
Speaker 4: going to cut you off.
Speaker 3: Okay, no problem with we we got you.
Speaker 4: No h those days I miss them because you can't
Speaker 4: have that kind of it doesn't seem like I don't
Speaker 4: know if it's society's too quick face now or people
Speaker 4: are too connected.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're just too.
Speaker 4: Spread out the crap that they've got going on have
Speaker 4: to dodge this and that.
Speaker 2: People I don't know, people are trapped in their bubbles.
Speaker 2: I think, Danny, Uh, before I get before I get
Speaker 2: more into your your thoughts for the week, because I
Speaker 2: want to hear from you, but I want your opinion
Speaker 2: on this, because it feels to me like BP's got
Speaker 2: an excellent point here. There used to be a time
Speaker 2: when you could sort of crowdsource ideas and you could
Speaker 2: do what I talked about regarding the sink just now.
Speaker 2: I could do that with a car. I could do
Speaker 2: that with a lot of different things among guys. Okay,
Speaker 2: but forget it. Even in a mix you could you
Speaker 2: could ask questions, you could propose things, You could start
Speaker 2: conversations with mixed groups of people because you actually had
Speaker 2: to converse with people face to face, right, so you
Speaker 2: could get ideas even if they weren't all honest. Because
Speaker 2: I got to tell you I have this, I have
Speaker 2: a very cynical view of people's level of honesty. Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, there. There's more than one person who's compared
Speaker 2: me to doctor House in my life. Right, everybody lies,
Speaker 2: is my opinion. It just depends how much, how often,
Speaker 2: and about what. But everybody lies anyways, that's me. The
Speaker 2: thing is this, though, What do you think is it
Speaker 2: because we have now adomized ourselves into these bubbles where
Speaker 2: you know, people have now decided if it doesn't absolutely
Speaker 2: resemble my pre existing opinion, to hell with it. Have
Speaker 2: they de set, you know, become so sensitive because they're
Speaker 2: no longer in these mixes where they're exposed to different things.
Speaker 2: Or do you think it's something else about the group
Speaker 2: the herd mentality here?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: You know. I mean, I don't believe even the herd
Speaker 2: the herd protection when it comes to vaccines. I think
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. But I do believe in it psychologically. I've
Speaker 2: seen it too often. I've seen the psychology of crowd
Speaker 2: I think. But anyways, what what is what is your
Speaker 2: ideas about this? I mean what we're talking about here?
Speaker 6: I mean you think it's there's always there's always group think.
Speaker 8: I mean, I I mean, personally, for myself, it seems
Speaker 8: like most of my peers and most of the peers.
Speaker 6: It would be my it would be like my co workers. Uh,
Speaker 6: and even a lot of my family. They are far.
Speaker 5: More all I would.
Speaker 6: Say, the straight talking point conservative and and and uh
Speaker 6: they I can almost repeat what they're going to say,
Speaker 6: what they want to talk about. You let me get
Speaker 6: along with most of them, well, because I listened to
Speaker 6: what they have to say. And I and if I
Speaker 6: try to have a disagreement, I just don't say they're wrong.
Speaker 5: I just I try to kindly point where I'm coming
Speaker 5: from them, why why I believe this?
Speaker 6: And you may not see i'd I you know, I
Speaker 6: don't if that makes sense, And I try to give
Speaker 6: it in a real practical personal experience why I feel
Speaker 6: this way and why I have the views I have.
Speaker 6: And then but but I don't get upset. I'm pretty
Speaker 6: thick skin when people make assumptions like well you're this,
Speaker 6: and the other thing I do is correct them and say, well,
Speaker 6: maybe you shouldn't tell me what I think. Maybe you
Speaker 6: should ask me what I think in my opinion, and
Speaker 6: I'll give it to you on the particular subject. Does
Speaker 6: that make sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does, I wish I And that's the thing
Speaker 2: is that a lot of what happened with, you know,
Speaker 2: because I've done exit surveys and all kinds of weird
Speaker 2: things about why it is. You know, look, you were
Speaker 2: a listener, you're not a listener. Can you just do
Speaker 2: me a favor tell me why the limited responses I've
Speaker 2: gotten are are really strange, and it's just I rubbed
Speaker 2: them the wrong way about something and that one thing,
Speaker 2: you know, whether it was the conflict in Ukraine or
Speaker 2: it was Donald Trump, or it was you know whatever,
Speaker 2: like one thing sets them off and that's the end
Speaker 2: of it. You know, people that used to hang around
Speaker 2: for years, and some people that have been listening for years.
Speaker 2: And I've even recently been made aware of a couple
Speaker 2: of people that I now know, you know, a couple
Speaker 2: of people that have made up some of that audience
Speaker 2: for a lot of years, you know, who have kind
Speaker 2: of introduced themselves to me over social media and been like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, you said this and it kind of upset
Speaker 2: me a long time ago. But I still listen, you know,
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But they'll tell me stuff like but
Speaker 2: I can't listen to the JFK stuff all the time,
Speaker 2: or I can't listen to that Friday night show and
Speaker 2: the Friday Night Show. The biggest complaint is that I
Speaker 2: don't fight with the right wingers, and I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to fight with or debate anybody. I'm trying to hear
Speaker 2: from and put things on. I don't want a debate.
Speaker 2: Sh That's the one thing I hate that that beat
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this with beat Pete right here
Speaker 2: because he's my friend, and you know what, I'm willing
Speaker 2: to say whatever bothers me in front of him. I don't.
Speaker 2: I hate it. He gets angry, he goes I'll debate.
Speaker 2: He wanted to debate last what was it last week
Speaker 2: with Spen Kent right, I didn't even want to debate.
Speaker 2: I didn't even want the debate. I don't want the debate.
Speaker 2: It's not a debate show to me. Be Pete wants
Speaker 2: to debate, we can lay aside a show and do that.
Speaker 2: I'm more than happy if that's what you guys want
Speaker 2: to do, But I'm not here to do that. Even
Speaker 2: I don't want to fight. I'd rather hear out people
Speaker 2: and even if they're stupid, let them make their stupid
Speaker 2: k Okay, That's what I'd rather do. And I don't
Speaker 2: know I guess that's not the way to go. Maybe
Speaker 2: be Pete's right, maybe we should just fight with each other.
Speaker 2: But that's all there is to it. But if you're
Speaker 2: gonna debate, there's a fight, and be Pete, you don't
Speaker 2: fight fair. I gotta tell you, you're very aggressive and
Speaker 2: you just shut out other ideas. So it's like it's
Speaker 2: impossible to really debate with you. Which is funny because
Speaker 2: I tried doing that on a long car ride with him,
Speaker 2: and it was hilarious. I wound up laughing several times
Speaker 2: because it was like, well, here's the idea I have,
Speaker 2: and he just shut it down, said it's ridiculous, doesn't
Speaker 2: make any sense, and that was it, Like he's not budgeting, right.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that was my opinion. That was my debate.
Speaker 3: It was ridiculous. Why I discuss it, And it.
Speaker 2: Was all about And now you can look back in
Speaker 2: retrospect now because this is a couple of years ago
Speaker 2: that we took. That's a long ride to Dallas, right,
Speaker 2: And my whole thing was Donald Trump is not really
Speaker 2: opposed by the media. Now today that argument sounds perfectly rational, okay,
Speaker 2: but he still will not believe that they were just
Speaker 2: using him as a content generator. Uh, but but that's fine.
Speaker 4: Well, I thought there was more to it than just
Speaker 4: using them as content generator. I thought they could actually
Speaker 4: thought that they could actually affect outcomes of things by
Speaker 4: the positions that they were taking.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, maybe maybe those.
Speaker 3: But I understand, I understand where you were coming from.
Speaker 4: But some of it I just couldn't comprehend because I
Speaker 4: didn't think it was true.
Speaker 3: But my opinion of the media is much different than
Speaker 3: your opinion.
Speaker 2: Of the media. Right, But do you see how but
Speaker 2: do you see how Facebook has switched? Do you see
Speaker 2: how a whole bunch of media platforms that were supposedly
Speaker 2: his enemy, whether they're cowering from lawsuits, because that's the
Speaker 2: other thing I've gotten back on recently. They're all just
Speaker 2: calorie because they're afraid of what he's going to do
Speaker 2: to them with the lawsuits. Maybe, but their bosses, and
Speaker 2: that's the other thing. The meat muppets on the screen
Speaker 2: are not the bosses. You got to remember that. Okay.
Speaker 2: They are ready presenters, actors, basically reading a script as
Speaker 2: it is fed to them through the teleprompter usually. Okay,
Speaker 2: So you want to debate me on that you lose
Speaker 2: because it's impossible, all right, And I don't care if
Speaker 2: it's Fox News, MSNBCCNN. I stand by that statement. They
Speaker 2: are actors. They are reading off a script and it's
Speaker 2: being fed to them while they're sitting there. That's their job. Now.
Speaker 2: You can take them any which way. They might have
Speaker 2: their political leanings, they might go off script, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera. I don't care. But their bosses have a
Speaker 2: other strategy about what they're doing, which is why they
Speaker 2: got rid of Don Lemon, which is why they did this,
Speaker 2: which is why they did that, which is why Fox
Speaker 2: News does what it does. They've all got their part
Speaker 2: to play and watch how things are being re aligned
Speaker 2: right now. That's all I'm saying. And I really feel
Speaker 2: like I've been vindicated about the media just used them
Speaker 2: as a content generator. But you know, you got to
Speaker 2: you gotta look at it from both things. It's not
Speaker 2: just what you see on the screen, it's what their
Speaker 2: bosses were doing anyway, Danny, I want to give you
Speaker 2: a chance to speak about what you want, because we
Speaker 2: cut you off and went into other things and talked
Speaker 2: about why we don't have female listeners. So please uh.
Speaker 2: But and also I got another.
Speaker 6: Caller, maybe maybe, maybe maybe I can help generate some
Speaker 6: listeners here. I got a question for VP you you've
Speaker 6: been very interested in kpok.
Speaker 5: When did your in the start?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 5: What? What would attract?
Speaker 4: Probably back the way back probably oh Christ early two thousand,
Speaker 4: well two thousand, about two thousand and eight or nine.
Speaker 3: M And it just and it was through catching a
Speaker 3: group and following them.
Speaker 4: They happened to have the groups uh to anyone and
Speaker 4: they had their own MTV style program that was on
Speaker 4: TV at the time for like three seasons and all.
Speaker 3: And it just from that it led me into like
Speaker 3: the rip.
Speaker 4: The hip hop scene in Korea has been around a
Speaker 4: lot longer than people realize.
Speaker 5: It just was never big.
Speaker 4: And there's a guy that's uh, he's the I guess,
Speaker 4: the lead rapper for Epic High and some some scrap
Speaker 4: that he went through in his career, which got me
Speaker 4: into Korean TV programs, which then got me into Chinese
Speaker 4: UH programs. So they started about two thousand and nine,
Speaker 4: was eight somewhere there.
Speaker 2: You know what's you know what's interesting Danny to me
Speaker 2: about this is that in a way, like I'm almost
Speaker 2: built more racist than BPDA is about this because I
Speaker 2: used to resist even the idea of Japanese metal as
Speaker 2: a kid outside of the band Loudness, I had no
Speaker 2: use for the Japanese metal stuff. In Japan, metal was
Speaker 2: huge in the eighties. I think they got over it.
Speaker 4: But see what got What took me in that direction
Speaker 4: was listening to I don't know, some people.
Speaker 3: Call it new age music.
Speaker 4: To me, it was jazz and that was the the
Speaker 4: group Hiroshima Japanese Jazz group, and jazz is where I
Speaker 4: really started listening to a lot of international artists. So
Speaker 4: and that was back to hell when I was in
Speaker 4: junior high school.
Speaker 2: It was so strange to me because all kinds of
Speaker 2: metal I could accept, except the Asian stuff. And I
Speaker 2: don't know why. I mean, like, I literally listened to
Speaker 2: Israeli death metal, and you guys have no idea what
Speaker 2: is ray I'm telling you today. I bet you'd have
Speaker 2: a hard time finding Israeli death metal on the internet.
Speaker 2: But it existed and does exist. I bet still probably
Speaker 2: there's you know, five bands. But nonetheless, death metal.
Speaker 3: Was more a European thing more than anything else.
Speaker 2: Well big in Europe, yes, but exists everywhere. Okay, I
Speaker 2: want you to know that it really does. I used
Speaker 2: to get letters from the strangest places putting out and
Speaker 2: I'm telling you just by releasing audio cassette demos, you know,
Speaker 2: you print your address in there and the next thing
Speaker 2: you know is you're getting a letter from Iraq. Okay.
Speaker 2: The one kid they asked to write a letter to
Speaker 2: you that can write in English all right back in
Speaker 2: the nineties, and they would make they would write some
Speaker 2: of the funniest stuff. I mean, like because they were
Speaker 2: trying to sound cool and their English was a little off,
Speaker 2: and it was hilarious. The guys from Israel, I will
Speaker 2: never forget this. At the end of the letter, the
Speaker 2: guys from Israel stay evil, man, and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: not even like in the evil stuff. I don't know
Speaker 2: what None of our stuff is evil. Matter of fact,
Speaker 2: one of my death metal songs was a big anti
Speaker 2: drug message, you know what I mean. It's like, there's
Speaker 2: nothing evil in my music except the sound of it.
Speaker 2: But the Israeli kids thought it was the most evil
Speaker 2: sounding music and they wanted to let us know that.
Speaker 2: And at the end that was the big sentiment, like
Speaker 2: the big send off was stay Evil and and they're
Speaker 2: broken English throughout this letter a fan letter from Israel,
Speaker 2: and that's how I discovered Israeli death metal. But believe
Speaker 2: it or not, it existed everywhere in Korea as well.
Speaker 2: There were Korean death metal bands, and like I said,
Speaker 2: the Japanese they loved the hair metal stuff big time.
Speaker 2: All of them seem to be like dressed like Nikki
Speaker 2: six at one point, I don't know why, uh and
Speaker 2: that band? Do you remember the band Loudness? They got
Speaker 2: like a little bit of a little bit of heat
Speaker 2: in America, like for about a year and then yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you're right.
Speaker 4: You take a you know, take a nicky zick airdo
Speaker 4: and put a Kimodo around it with a you know,
Speaker 4: a fender. Yeah, and uh, some of the uh couple
Speaker 4: ivanz Is you know, but yeah, they were really big
Speaker 4: into the metal scene. I was, I liked heavy metal,
Speaker 4: but I didn't like the heavy heavy metal like you
Speaker 4: like the thrash metal, and so I never got into
Speaker 4: that end of it.
Speaker 3: But that's what I noticed. As soon as you said
Speaker 3: something Japanese, I thought.
Speaker 4: Good lord, how many how many Japanese metal bands have
Speaker 4: I seen on YouTube?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: You know, probably more than K pop, right.
Speaker 2: And it's hilarious because there are little kids in Japan,
Speaker 2: like little kids that I've seen that did metal stuff,
Speaker 2: which is great at it actually, Uh And look, I
Speaker 2: don't I appreciate the heavy, heavy stuff. I like heavy stuff,
Speaker 2: but my favorite stuff is really the Black Sabbath, the
Speaker 2: classic stuff, the blues based, you know, just really loud
Speaker 2: blues and jazz sort of fusion. Uh, you know like that,
Speaker 2: you know, the the the Black Sabbath is my favorite band.
Speaker 2: But you know, but I also appreciated when they started,
Speaker 2: you know, fusing elements of hip pop in and I
Speaker 2: loved raging against the Machine and uh, you know, not
Speaker 2: proud to admit it, but even appreciated what Limp Biscuit
Speaker 2: was doing at a certain point, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I like the new metal stuff too. I like hard rock.
Speaker 2: I like I like the message in the attitude of
Speaker 2: a lot of that harder stuff and a lot of
Speaker 2: the esoteric weirdness of it. And uh, again I'm a
Speaker 2: lifelong Black Sabbath fan. But anyways, enough out of me.
Speaker 2: And and by the way, I also love Motorhead and
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Let me Killmeister is probably the
Speaker 2: most underrated bass player in music history. Uh, if you
Speaker 2: ever take a listen to the rockabilly stuff that he
Speaker 2: was doing and some of the other wild stuff that
Speaker 2: he would do. His bass playing style is so unique.
Speaker 2: Everybody thinks of Asis Bades and the basics and you know,
Speaker 2: the the ugly guy and all that. But let me
Speaker 2: kill Meister was an incredibly talented bass player who you know,
Speaker 2: unfortunately we don't have to produce anything new, but amazing stuff.
Speaker 2: And incredible songwriter responsible probably for the biggest hits you
Speaker 2: know that he wrote for or co wrote with Ozzy Osbourne,
Speaker 2: depending on how you read the publishing No More Tears.
Speaker 2: A whole lot of songs on that album written by
Speaker 2: Lemmy Killmeister anyway, and he produced a lot of interesting people.
Speaker 2: Everybody from oh God, who is that? Oh man? I
Speaker 2: can picture her. She was a nut. She wound up
Speaker 2: killing herself. She was uh, Wendy O. Williams, the lead
Speaker 2: singer of the Plasmatics. He produced her album and actually
Speaker 2: got her to make a music video. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you remember this from the eighties, remember a woman
Speaker 2: with like a nasty male sounding voice who made a
Speaker 2: song called It's My Life, I'll do what I Wanna do.
Speaker 2: And she's driving around in like a truck and she
Speaker 2: jumps up on top of the truck and runs it
Speaker 2: into like a mountain of TV sets and they explode.
Speaker 2: In the eighties, Yeah, I know, that's music videos in
Speaker 2: the eighties kids, you know. And she's dressed in like
Speaker 2: I don't know, like like like a torturer looking outfit,
Speaker 2: like a what do you call those? A mistress? Right?
Speaker 2: Is that what the BDSM people? Still Dominatrix there you go,
Speaker 2: almost like a but like a guttural punk dominatrix dressed like.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: She even made a few movies, like a few of
Speaker 2: those like crazy like uh, you know.
Speaker 4: Woman gets Yeah, we talked about Oh yeah, she's the
Speaker 4: one that had the plastic ball bra.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, and she and she wound up killing herself.
Speaker 2: But before all that, let Me Killmeister produced her her
Speaker 2: her solo album when she left the Plasmatics, is my point.
Speaker 2: So he was a producer also, uh, and he did
Speaker 2: a wild song with oh man, there's like this Danish
Speaker 2: singer that they did like this weird love song together
Speaker 2: that like pop uh popped up on other charts. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, the guy wrote a lot of stuff and
Speaker 2: played a lot of stuff that people never even bother
Speaker 2: to look at. Plus he had a whole existence outside
Speaker 2: of half a century a motorhead. So you know, it's
Speaker 2: just anyway, just one of my one of my musical heroes.
Speaker 2: I can't help it, but those are the guys I
Speaker 2: like is guys like him and Ozzie and Black Sabbath
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. The old stuff, Uh, that's what
Speaker 2: I appreciate most. But the death metal stuff, that's what
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 10: For a little while.
Speaker 3: Uh, I think it was. I think it was. My
Speaker 3: biggest thing was was jazz influenced to get.
Speaker 4: Me to watch international artists, and from that I found
Speaker 4: niches of things that I liked in these different cultures
Speaker 4: type of popular music. And to be honest, today you
Speaker 4: listen to the stuff that comes out in kpop and
Speaker 4: it's so much better than the crap we're here and
Speaker 4: on top forty radio here in the States. It's just,
Speaker 4: you know, and the indie movement just wasn't enough. Like now,
Speaker 4: country music, as far as I'm concerned, completely sucks. And
Speaker 4: I used to I've got tons of country artists that
Speaker 4: I grew up listening to. There was a I don't know,
Speaker 4: there was a tone to the music that it dealt
Speaker 4: with real life things. This craft that we're here and
Speaker 4: now it all sounds alike and they're trying to missmass
Speaker 4: genres together to where everything is going to be considered music.
Speaker 4: There won't be any breakups between pop music, dance music,
Speaker 4: mixed music, country music. It's all going to be the
Speaker 4: same if if it's left up to the US artists.
Speaker 2: See, now here's where you and I come to a
Speaker 2: quick agreement. Who would you guess? Danny, let me ask
Speaker 2: you this. Who would you guess is my favorite country
Speaker 2: my favorite country artist probably of all time? Like if
Speaker 2: I had to mention, I'll even give you a space
Speaker 2: of my top three. Uh and and you know you
Speaker 2: might actually pick one that I would throw in there
Speaker 2: instead of But I know too, I can mention right
Speaker 2: off the top of my head for the people that
Speaker 2: are really truly good country artists. Who do you think
Speaker 2: I would pick.
Speaker 5: If you're going to take good country artists?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like really good legit VISUS country music artists.
Speaker 5: Uh, maybe like in Alan Jackson or George Straight Okay,
Speaker 5: you or Dwight Yoakam.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting, But believe it or not, I'd go
Speaker 2: with Merle Haggard. Okay, I'm that kind of I'm that.
Speaker 5: Gunn of guy California. That's interesting because I was figuring
Speaker 5: Dwight Yoakum because Dark Yoakam did a lot of work
Speaker 5: with Buck Owens and there, and Buck Owens and Merle
Speaker 5: Haggard are both from Bakersfill, California.
Speaker 2: And you know what's funny is being in the South
Speaker 2: right now and being in the South the past ten years.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I knew it was a big,
Speaker 2: big problem the moment that guys were running up to
Speaker 2: me looking at me in the face with like total
Speaker 2: stunned looks on their face, going, you hear that on
Speaker 2: the radio, that's Hoody, And I went, what the hell
Speaker 2: are you talking about? And I come to find out,
Speaker 2: you know who they're calling Hoody?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about here at BPTE.
Speaker 3: Right, Darius.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were they were freaking out that Hoody's doing
Speaker 2: country and I went, oh, man, my.
Speaker 4: Mom, she tickled the hell out of me. You know,
Speaker 4: you hear growing up? Cut that music down? You know,
Speaker 4: when they passed by your room and you got your
Speaker 4: jams on, and you know you're in the red car.
Speaker 4: My mom, she was in her eighties, and she went
Speaker 4: to the store, and when she comes back, she had
Speaker 4: a carport behind the house that they pull both vehicles under. Well,
Speaker 4: I'm out there doing some stuff, you know. I think
Speaker 4: I was sweed eating around the house or the carport
Speaker 4: or something. And she comes pulling in, and as soon
Speaker 4: as she comes in, if she's got stuff she needs
Speaker 4: help with, she pops the trunk as as soon as
Speaker 4: she stops, and I hear Darius Rutcker playing one of
Speaker 4: his Countries things.
Speaker 3: I think it was wagon Wheel or whatever it was.
Speaker 4: And my mom gets out of the car and I said,
Speaker 4: cut that damn music down, and she started laughing. I said, now,
Speaker 4: how many times did you tell me that growing up?
Speaker 4: She said far too many. I said, what were you
Speaker 4: listening to? She said, oh, I like Darious Rutcker. I said,
Speaker 4: you were listening to Hoodie. She said, who, I said, Hoodie?
Speaker 4: She says, no, it's Darius Rucker, I said, mom, long
Speaker 4: before he became a solo artist, he was Hoody and
Speaker 4: the hoodie in the Blowfish.
Speaker 2: But the funny thing was he was never hoodie. He
Speaker 2: was always the funny thing.
Speaker 3: Is I mean, everybody referred to it was hooty.
Speaker 4: The thing was about a week later, she comes in blaring, oh, Hoodie.
Speaker 4: So she had actually his satellite on the car so
Speaker 4: she could listen to different stations or play her own mix.
Speaker 4: So she comes in and she's playing a hoodie song
Speaker 4: and I said, mom, you know listening to hoodies. He goes,
Speaker 4: it's Darius, And yes, I thought I'd go find out
Speaker 4: who Hoody and the Blowfisch was.
Speaker 3: She's pretty good.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful because I actually thought Hoody in the Blowfish
Speaker 2: wasn't bad.
Speaker 4: And oh oh they're a good man there South Carolina
Speaker 4: and a college fan.
Speaker 2: That's what they got famous, right, And I heard Darius
Speaker 2: Rutger and I went, you know, it's funny. He's got
Speaker 2: the chops to do this. You know, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2: He's just a good It's almost like the weirdness it
Speaker 2: went on with like Race or X and in Living Color, right,
Speaker 2: Living Color, not in Living in Living Colors, the TV
Speaker 2: show Living Colors. The band Excuse me, But the point
Speaker 2: is it was like, uh, you know, and and it's
Speaker 2: almost funny when when Iced Tea came out with you
Speaker 2: know who gave those black boys those rock guitars? And
Speaker 2: there goes the neighborhood, right, hilarious stuff. It's funny how
Speaker 2: things go full circle, but it is.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's something I have to thank my parents
Speaker 4: for has given me. They were big music fans. They
Speaker 4: were either listening to the radio. They listened to the
Speaker 4: brandall Opry every week on TV, Key Haul. I mean,
Speaker 4: they were big into country music and popular music.
Speaker 3: You know, Dean Martin, Trinty Lopez. Uh, I think my
Speaker 3: mom's favorite. Triny Lopez is one of my mom's favorites.
Speaker 4: So I have to I have to thank them for
Speaker 4: giving me that desire to expand in what music I
Speaker 4: listened to.
Speaker 2: See. My father exposed me to all kinds. It's so
Speaker 2: funny because literally in Vietnam they called him a brother
Speaker 2: by the way, brother or brother Ocelli because you listened
Speaker 2: to nothing but black music and hung out with the
Speaker 2: black guys. They had the same taste in clothes and anyway.
Speaker 2: It was just the way it was. This is my dad.
Speaker 2: And my mother was actually the black Sabbath listener, the
Speaker 2: you know, the heavier she was more of a Beatles fan,
Speaker 2: but she had Black Sabbath stuff around, and you know,
Speaker 2: the early hard rock stuff from the late sixties, early seventies,
Speaker 2: Iron Butterfly stuff like that. And meanwhile, I wound up
Speaker 2: gravitating toward the music, toward the pair, and I didn't favor.
Speaker 2: But I've always had an appreciation for all this stuff
Speaker 2: and wound up getting an appreciation for hip hop because
Speaker 2: that's what I was exposed to as a kid. But
Speaker 2: I don't know where the hell you end up getting
Speaker 2: exposed to the k pop thing outside of you lived
Speaker 2: in career for a little bit, though, didn't you.
Speaker 4: No, No, No, I've got I had a good friend that.
Speaker 3: Went over there and taught English.
Speaker 4: Oh that's at college, and I got the theater with
Speaker 4: here years ago.
Speaker 3: But no, I've never made it to Korea. I wanted to.
Speaker 3: I almost went over there in the Army, but I
Speaker 3: ended up going to Germany.
Speaker 2: Ah, okay, you see, I somehow thought you had gone
Speaker 2: over there when you were in the service.
Speaker 3: No, no, I'd love to Hell.
Speaker 4: I drop what I'm doing and go to Korea right now,
Speaker 4: if I could take a month over there, just to
Speaker 4: see the things that I want to see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I certally enjoy that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a very odd place at this point,
Speaker 2: because you know, they just had the recent problems with
Speaker 2: the government and everything, and obviously you're talk in South Korea.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't want to go to Kim Jong UN's territory.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 3: No, No, I ain't got no desire to go to
Speaker 3: the RNs. But no, I would love to go. I'd
Speaker 3: love to go, but I'd love to be able to
Speaker 3: go for like two weeks.
Speaker 4: I have enough time that you're not in a rush
Speaker 4: and you can go see some of.
Speaker 3: The things you want to go.
Speaker 4: But I mean, but it was that being in a
Speaker 4: young age and my parents, you know, pushing you know,
Speaker 4: the enjoyment of music and different types of music, that
Speaker 4: that just started me going out in different directions.
Speaker 3: Back when I was listening to a lot of jazz.
Speaker 4: Like I said, you know, even as young as as
Speaker 4: junior high in school, you're listening to people like Leo
Speaker 4: Kotti and Lee written Auer and Jean mus Ponte and
Speaker 4: all these people that have connections because they came from
Speaker 4: other places and artists that they worked with over there,
Speaker 4: and you just start to find those little segments of
Speaker 4: stuff that you like to listen to cord to Pirate
Speaker 4: out of Canada. She's a female artist that she sings
Speaker 4: mainly in French. But you just you find those niches
Speaker 4: that you like and you keep going back to them.
Speaker 4: And when I got looked on K pop, I mean
Speaker 4: it really it was a novel thing that really started
Speaker 4: growing as MTV over here started dying, but they were
Speaker 4: still in fluential in their studios in that over in
Speaker 4: Japan and Korea, and I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 3: You come out in Korea.
Speaker 4: It's a big thing to take your album and then
Speaker 4: do it in Japanese and release it in the Japanese market,
Speaker 4: with the Chinese market, at the Philippines market.
Speaker 2: So it's just kind of wild because you just got
Speaker 2: exposed to something that spoke to you, you know. And
Speaker 2: I'm explaining how I was steeped in the kind of
Speaker 2: stuff that I've liked my whole life early on, and
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily you know, So people's musical interests can
Speaker 2: come from all sorts of places. I was just trying
Speaker 2: to expand on the whole conversation with Danny. But anyways, Danny,
Speaker 2: I want to put you on hold, so we can
Speaker 2: get to somebody else that we've kept on hold for
Speaker 2: a bit, and we probably killed a lot of time.
Speaker 5: About the K pop.
Speaker 3: Will we come back?
Speaker 2: But yeah, oh excellent. I would love to delve into
Speaker 2: that some more. So let me put you on hold
Speaker 2: and I'll bring up. It looks like we got Jimmy James.
Speaker 2: He might have some different stuff on his mind, or
Speaker 2: maybe he wants to talk music. Jimmy, how you doing tonight?
Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be a good I know it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a it's gonna be a good Jimmy James
Speaker 2: call when he starts off, you know, clearing his lungs. So, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: what's up? Man?
Speaker 7: Dingle ding old k pop?
Speaker 2: About jpop? What is j pop?
Speaker 3: I don't even know Japanese pop music? Oh okay, it's
Speaker 3: it's a it's.
Speaker 4: A competing genre with K pop, and a lot of
Speaker 4: K pop artists just look forward to the day that
Speaker 4: they can break out in Japan. The schedule shows in
Speaker 4: Japan because it's a huge market.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look, a lot of a lot of single
Speaker 2: men in Japan. I don't know how much disposable income
Speaker 2: they have. I know the exchange rate is still we're
Speaker 2: not losing to the Japanese currency. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I have no idea how that would go. And this
Speaker 2: would be something completely out of my depth. But what, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: you dig the j pop stuff? You want to compete
Speaker 2: or you just wanted to be contrary.
Speaker 7: I barely knew that there was such a thing. Okay,
Speaker 7: I just said it because I'm Jimmy James. But actually
Speaker 7: I did have a Korea and roommate once there when
Speaker 7: I lived in Hawaiian. He was into.
Speaker 10: Yeah, jpop.
Speaker 7: He was all about Japan even though he's from Korea.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 7: Loved all their crap, the cartoons, their music, all that Joe.
Speaker 7: And that was in the nineties.
Speaker 2: See, And I got to tell you, I dig the
Speaker 2: ancient culture from you know, the two places that my
Speaker 2: family's from. But the modern stuff I'm not into, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, did you see Connor McGregor
Speaker 2: this this week, because remember I'm also part Irish?
Speaker 7: Yes, excellent, Yes McGregor.
Speaker 2: McGregor wants to be president of Ireland. What you like
Speaker 2: that idea, Jimmy, Connor McGregor.
Speaker 7: I am moving to the campaign for him.
Speaker 2: Okay, hey, fair enough, But but I don't dig most
Speaker 2: of what goes on in modern Italy or or Ireland.
Speaker 2: But you know, uh, but that's that's where my families
Speaker 2: came from. Anyways.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I said to My understanding was that half those
Speaker 7: countries are what muslim.
Speaker 2: Now uh what Ireland or Italy?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Hello, why do you think they're so pissed off
Speaker 7: over there?
Speaker 2: But well, I'll tell you I don't think Muslims get
Speaker 2: along too well in Sicily at all. Uh, not where
Speaker 2: my family are.
Speaker 4: They are really heavy though in the UK and in
Speaker 4: Ireland and even Scotland.
Speaker 2: Maybe, but I know they're not doing well. They're not
Speaker 2: doing well in Sicily. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 7: And you walk around France. If you try to walk
Speaker 7: around that that stupid puts this eightful power. Good luck.
Speaker 2: Paris.
Speaker 7: Huh, you'll be accosted by by your friendly newcomers from
Speaker 7: far away.
Speaker 2: No more, No more French bikinis in Paris.
Speaker 7: Eh no, no, no, Now it's all about the Burke
Speaker 7: because yikes.
Speaker 2: All right, well, I don't know. I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2: I know that Italy is not like that. Italy is.
Speaker 2: Italy's a disaster for a whole other reason. But it's
Speaker 2: and you know what it is. It is government corruption
Speaker 2: and it has been even when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: even when I went there. And why it is that
Speaker 2: it costs two hundred and fifty we're at a Bia
Speaker 2: soda and everything else, and I'm telling you that's a
Speaker 2: real price. I don't know what the EURO does in Italy,
Speaker 2: but what a mess. They really should just adomize that
Speaker 2: country and just turn it into what it was to
Speaker 2: begin with, which is the Kingdom of Sardinia, and let
Speaker 2: the pope run his country and let sicily be its
Speaker 2: kingdom again. But they won't, especially not in the time
Speaker 2: of the European Union, because that's the only way that
Speaker 2: place is going to run. And I'll tell you something else.
Speaker 2: Nobody hates the Southern Italian more than a Northern Italian
Speaker 2: unless they're in prison together. So you know, anyway, it
Speaker 2: is what it is. It's like the unwritten rule among
Speaker 2: outlaw bikers. They stop fighting with each other in prisoner.
Speaker 2: They're supposed to, you know, it's it. Otherwise they're arguing
Speaker 2: with each other over the same thing.
Speaker 3: Well, let's see, the Euro's Brigadian buck thirteen.
Speaker 2: So it's holding.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Euro is I don't know let's see the
Speaker 4: pound pounds about buck thirty two.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, that pound amount you just gave is not
Speaker 2: right because I have to pay by Great British pound
Speaker 2: for one of the things for this network, and it
Speaker 2: has it is jacked up way more than that.
Speaker 4: And it was it was a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 4: April nineteen, twenty twenty five at one oh nine UTC.
Speaker 4: One US dollar is the equivalent of a buck thirty well,
Speaker 4: say a buck thirty three bridge pound one point pounds.
Speaker 2: But their operating exchange is not working that way, because
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it was little more. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: lower two months ago than that by by a bit,
Speaker 2: and like, okay, in January it was lower. Uh so,
Speaker 2: I guess that's what three months ago now. But over
Speaker 2: the past three months you're talking more like a dollar
Speaker 2: fifty to sixty is what it is for the Great
Speaker 2: British pound. And meanwhile, I'm hearing that they're not doing
Speaker 2: that well financially, and somehow their unit is beating the
Speaker 2: hell out of ours. So I don't know what that's
Speaker 2: a lot about.
Speaker 3: The British pound. They're about to go broke.
Speaker 4: I mean, the whole government itself is about to go
Speaker 4: broke with the influx of migrants that they've had over there.
Speaker 4: And I mean it's like over here, the migrants they
Speaker 4: get first round choices on hotels or council estates, and
Speaker 4: everybody else goes.
Speaker 3: To the back of the line.
Speaker 4: They're providing so many services, it's about to break them.
Speaker 2: Well, if it does, I'll be paying less than a
Speaker 2: dollar on every one of the Great British pound. But
Speaker 2: I guess I'll wait and see. Anyway, So Jimmy, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what did you have on your mind outside of J pop?
Speaker 2: And you're thinking about campaigning for Connor McGregor.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well, I was sick of them about your
Speaker 7: issue with Skypey. You know, there's these things already on
Speaker 7: our phones. I was looking at that Google Meet. Yeah
Speaker 7: it says you can have like thirty two callers on
Speaker 7: then I don't even think it costs money.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but then you got to deal with See.
Speaker 2: Here's the problem, right, is that I've got to try
Speaker 2: to have something where I can have guests and you know,
Speaker 2: and callers. So I need something that will go across
Speaker 2: it all. And so far, zoom and teams are the
Speaker 2: things that apparently I'm going to be able to do
Speaker 2: both with and Google just got to By the way,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, but Google just
Speaker 2: got smacked again with another anti trust situation. And yeah,
Speaker 2: now this time it's over their ads. But in different
Speaker 2: parts of the world they're kind of under siege for
Speaker 2: monopolizing stuff and unfair trade practices. And what's going to
Speaker 2: happen is these platforms that they control are going to
Speaker 2: start getting divvied up. Like I doubt they'll give up Gootu,
Speaker 2: but they might give up stuff like the meetings or
Speaker 2: the Google Hangouts they used to call it, and they
Speaker 2: change that platform several times. So I need something that's
Speaker 2: going to remain consistent. And also there's also just a
Speaker 2: general sort of hatred and paranoia over letting Google into
Speaker 2: your stuff because they are invasive. I mean, I know
Speaker 2: they're invasive, but I don't care for the purposes of
Speaker 2: most of what I do. But I also have segregated
Speaker 2: systems where I have to communicate with people because if
Speaker 2: it even touches Google stuff, they will not communicate with
Speaker 2: you nothing, okay, because they don't want Google to even
Speaker 2: get into their framework, and believe it or not, that
Speaker 2: would affect guests. That would affect a lot of guests
Speaker 2: who just you know, won't accept a Gmail Gmail to them,
Speaker 2: it goes automatically to spam anything from Gmail. I mean
Speaker 2: stuff like that. They use independent platforming and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and some of them, you know, don't even use God.
Speaker 2: What is the third option, you know, between whether it's
Speaker 2: Apple or PC, there's that third option. I always forget
Speaker 2: the name of it, but it's like an independent system Linux, Yes,
Speaker 2: that's it.
Speaker 9: What is it?
Speaker 2: Linux?
Speaker 3: Lix lix.
Speaker 2: So if you try to use Linux with some of
Speaker 2: these things, forget it. It doesn't work. So I need
Speaker 2: something that will function on Linux or can be adapted
Speaker 2: to Linux, believe it or not. And something that will
Speaker 2: just plug into regular phone calls and not everything does that.
Speaker 2: Now if you use Zoom, Zoom has phone numbers, but
Speaker 2: I think they change with every meeting, so the phone
Speaker 2: number would change every show. And the other thing is
Speaker 2: you also have to set up your meetings ahead of time.
Speaker 2: So every Friday, I would have to like have a
Speaker 2: regularly scheduled meeting at eight pm Eastern in order to
Speaker 2: run this show, and then set up a scheduled meeting
Speaker 2: for tape get.
Speaker 7: You could get a void number and then just every
Speaker 7: week have it forwarded to the whatever number of the
Speaker 7: week was. I'll be it paying.
Speaker 2: But well, yeah, but here's the thing. I already have
Speaker 2: a phone service. But to see that that implies I
Speaker 2: need a new phone service, and that's something i'd have
Speaker 2: to go and buy too, And I got to buy
Speaker 2: one that's not going to cost me a lot, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry to say. And then yeah, and then I could
Speaker 2: forward a number to another place and hope it works
Speaker 2: and just forward it to the number of the week.
Speaker 2: Like you said, I'm going to have to look into
Speaker 2: the internet phone that that I can get through like
Speaker 2: my internet provider, and maybe there's a way to do it.
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, I just start giving out,
Speaker 2: say my home number for everybody to call in. And
Speaker 2: when you do that, it forwards it to the you know,
Speaker 2: whichever the number of the week is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's voiceover IP and you're talking about delays
Speaker 4: and it's worse than it is now.
Speaker 2: Well that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to get something
Speaker 2: that's more responsive, because you know, the only person you
Speaker 2: ever hear with delays is Jimmy. He takes a couple
Speaker 2: of seconds to respond, but otherwise our phone calls are
Speaker 2: usually pretty responsive the way I did it, but unfortunately,
Speaker 2: one of the key links to that was Skype, so
Speaker 2: that I could actually link a co host and the
Speaker 2: callers together. Because if it was just a matter of
Speaker 2: me taking calls, I can just do that. It's not
Speaker 2: a problem. Remember when I set it up, and I
Speaker 2: tried to set it up the other way and you
Speaker 2: couldn't hear the callers be pete. So that means that
Speaker 2: anytime I have a guest, I can't take calls either,
Speaker 2: So you know, for future moves here, because I want
Speaker 2: to increase the guest list, but because of this upheaval,
Speaker 2: I haven't really been able to bring in too many guests.
Speaker 2: And I had two cancelations this week, by the way,
Speaker 2: and one of them was just a sub stack guy
Speaker 2: who I talked to for three days, messaging back and forth,
Speaker 2: and then all I did was ask him for a
Speaker 2: phone number and the messages stopped. So I don't understand
Speaker 2: that he agreed to be on, agreed to a time,
Speaker 2: and agreed even you know, I can use Skype. I'm
Speaker 2: not a luddite, and i'd rather use a phone I said, well,
Speaker 2: give me a phone number, and that was the end
Speaker 2: of the conversation. And then there was another guy who
Speaker 2: was actually a more more well known guest who suddenly
Speaker 2: doesn't have time for me. So you know, it was
Speaker 2: what it was. Next week, I'm hoping that we talked
Speaker 2: to Larry about, you know, some of the new documents
Speaker 2: that came out, because you know, the MLK and RFK
Speaker 2: stuff did drop this week. In fact, I think today,
Speaker 2: either today or yesterday, you know, federal government releasing this
Speaker 2: stuff to the National Archives. Now I've looked at a
Speaker 2: little bit of it, and I've seen this stuff before. Uh,
Speaker 2: but i don't know if there's you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: as attuned to this as I am to the JFK stuff,
Speaker 2: so I don't want to make any statements about it.
Speaker 2: But I've started to look at the I don't know,
Speaker 2: there's about two hundred and fifty PDFs I think in
Speaker 2: the UH. I forget if that's the RFK or the
Speaker 2: MLK count that I started with, but we have we
Speaker 2: have two different piles of things out there now anyways,
Speaker 2: But I'm hoping that I'll be able to get Larry
Speaker 2: on next week to talk about that, But I.
Speaker 3: Wonder how much media is included.
Speaker 4: I mean they're releasing files, yeah, that are documents.
Speaker 3: I wonder how much they've got.
Speaker 4: In the way of film tape recordings.
Speaker 3: When are we going to start seeing some of that
Speaker 3: come out?
Speaker 7: Well, it did JFK that that release. The link I got.
Speaker 7: The only things I seen noon was all kinds of
Speaker 7: audio recordings. Most of them were from Jim Garrison's investigation.
Speaker 2: Actually, uh yeah, that's the HSCA stuff that some of
Speaker 2: us had before, because that's that's how they got ahold
Speaker 2: of it, because Garrison was quietly in contact with a
Speaker 2: bunch of HSCA staffers and he sent them all kinds
Speaker 2: of things, but nobody ever saw it before. So I'm
Speaker 2: waiting on a couple of private notebooks that still haven't arrived,
Speaker 2: that should exist somewhere that have been mentioned in testimony
Speaker 2: and in memos from the HSCA. They're still not surfaced
Speaker 2: anywhere that I can see, because six photographs. Well even
Speaker 2: better is you know about the whole controversy where they
Speaker 2: got rid of what was its regis Blahoot. However you
Speaker 2: say his name, you remember that during the HSCA. Okay,
Speaker 2: that was because of the mishandling of the autopsy photos
Speaker 2: and leaving them in an unsecured place and all this
Speaker 2: other stuff. And that guy tried to deny it, but
Speaker 2: unfortunately there was no way to deny it. There's a
Speaker 2: whole weird thing that went on with the autopsy photos
Speaker 2: at that point too. I have a feeling I know
Speaker 2: the explanation of it, and we're probably going to get
Speaker 2: it when somebody dies, but that'll probably be about ten
Speaker 2: years from now.
Speaker 4: The hell that you think could still be alive though,
Speaker 4: that's causing it not to come out because I've heard
Speaker 4: this what a two weeks ago some interview they did
Speaker 4: with somebody that was one of dodgers.
Speaker 3: They said, the photos I took, you know, but we've
Speaker 3: done that for years.
Speaker 2: Well, let me give you a friendly name that is
Speaker 2: still alive that was involved with the HSCA, and that's
Speaker 2: Robert Grodin right now. And look, I like the guy,
Speaker 2: but let's be honest for a second. He ends up
Speaker 2: with photographs and photographs out there. Okay, let's that that's
Speaker 2: bottom line. What it is some of his autopsy stuff. Okay,
Speaker 2: how do you think he got that? Okay?
Speaker 3: I would not I will keep my opinion to myself, right.
Speaker 2: You don't even want to speculate on it. But here's
Speaker 2: the thing. If you combine that with the mishandling thing
Speaker 2: that went on there and some other controversies. If you
Speaker 2: ever listened to the testimony about Blayhoot and all that
Speaker 2: when they decided to dismiss people and break part of
Speaker 2: the committee off, there there's more to it. And I
Speaker 2: promise you a couple of photos were lost too in
Speaker 2: that process.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm you know, I think it's very well that
Speaker 4: the options photo could be misplaced.
Speaker 3: I got a feeling somebody snag it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you know how much that thing would
Speaker 2: be worth, like to a put.
Speaker 4: No, Because I talked to somebody who went to specifically
Speaker 4: look at it. They could not put their hands on it, right,
Speaker 4: So it's either been misplaced, misfiled, or somebody slighted it.
Speaker 4: And I want to know who was the last person
Speaker 4: to sign the thing?
Speaker 7: Yeah, which helps?
Speaker 2: And Elt said six six is not in physical proximity
Speaker 2: where you can look at it at the archives.
Speaker 3: I say it's motivated.
Speaker 7: What about the one where they had a clear shot
Speaker 7: of the fake sniper's nests and then they burned a
Speaker 7: big hole in it, right where Oswald would have been
Speaker 7: if he would have been shooting. They had a clear
Speaker 7: shot of the building of that window. Oh it burned
Speaker 7: in the thermofacts. That just put a big hole right
Speaker 7: where it approved. Nobody was there, right, anyone got any
Speaker 7: good one of them?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've yet to see one.
Speaker 4: It's like the Mormon photo with the thumb print in it,
Speaker 4: because the fixture.
Speaker 3: Was applied to the polaroid.
Speaker 6: You know this should.
Speaker 2: Happens, right, I mean, there's a whole bunch of actually
Speaker 2: that what do they call that, that silver nightrade or whatever.
Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of silver night trate mess in
Speaker 2: the original Mormon photo that is all over the place.
Speaker 2: I I feel as though, and frankly, and then then
Speaker 2: nobody likes it when I say this, But that's where
Speaker 2: you're getting Badgeman from. That's not a person.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it was one of those that first went to.
Speaker 4: He went to Daley Plaza and they did some survey
Speaker 4: and determined that in the Mormon photo for Badgeman to
Speaker 4: be where he was, he would have had to have
Speaker 4: been something like ten feet tall or something. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: based on the trajectory and all, it's yeah.
Speaker 7: But if the dude was behind the fence. Look, I
Speaker 7: think they were standing on cars behind that damn fence.
Speaker 7: I know they were. That guy Brewers seeing them, A
Speaker 7: bunch of people seeing them, well.
Speaker 2: People standing on bumpers.
Speaker 7: The audience says they hate when we talk about JFK, politics,
Speaker 7: sports or movies. So let's move on to what they
Speaker 7: want us to talk about.
Speaker 2: Well, good, as soon as you as soon as you
Speaker 2: figure out, as soon as you figure out what it
Speaker 2: is they want to talk about, let me know, because
Speaker 2: I can't figure it out anymore.
Speaker 7: It's gotta be European soccer. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean, what the devil else is there?
Speaker 2: I don't know sports, But if that's if that's the case,
Speaker 2: if we got to talk European soccer, I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: just hoping that somebody has the good sense to put
Speaker 2: a pillow over my face later because I'm done.
Speaker 4: I mean, I can talk premierly soccer, but that's not Europe,
Speaker 4: that's the UK.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yike's good luck to you. I just you know, fine,
Speaker 2: you and Kim can do this from now on. Just
Speaker 2: can take me out of it. I can't do it.
Speaker 2: I can't do it.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I'm just trying to figure out what
Speaker 7: in the world do people want. They say, oh, can't
Speaker 7: talk about that's religion, Texas, government, sports, it gets What
Speaker 7: am I allowed to speak about exactly?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my question. That's my question. And you know,
Speaker 2: and this week, by the way, you know, I would
Speaker 2: love to talk about how we have a serious reversal
Speaker 2: here on Gee. It's a little more difficult to solve
Speaker 2: the Ukraine conflict than people thought. Huh, But don't talk
Speaker 2: about that because you're a jerk, because you're anti Trump
Speaker 2: about that. I'm like, no, actually, I'm kind of blaming
Speaker 2: Marco Rubio for being an e f there, even though
Speaker 2: Witkock was sent to deal with it. But then again,
Speaker 2: you're dealing with Vladimir Putin. Oh wait, I'm not allowed
Speaker 2: to discuss Vladimir Putin and who he really is because
Speaker 2: he's a good guy. Right. I give up, man, I
Speaker 2: really do. I don't know what you're supposed to say
Speaker 2: that that is a horrible thing still happening, been happening
Speaker 2: for years, and I'm not allowed to talk about that either.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to hear it, and that's cost me even money,
Speaker 2: I mean, straight up, So I give up. Seriously. This
Speaker 2: is why I just was like with the news the
Speaker 2: other night. What the hell? I don't even want to
Speaker 2: read this? Why do I care anymore? You guys don't
Speaker 2: want analysis? What do you want? I don't get it.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you want me to just go into
Speaker 2: fandom here? I mean, here's your Star Wars show. Disney
Speaker 2: put out a new one. Let's talk about that. Are
Speaker 2: there any hot cartoons right now? Is there a true crime?
Speaker 7: Chuck now't drawing the chicks. We just gotta be true
Speaker 7: true crime twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny? Chicks? They just can't get.
Speaker 7: Enough with that. That crime man, the.
Speaker 2: Crime you know what's funny? He might be right, be
Speaker 2: Pete between crime and drag queens. I think that'sretty much
Speaker 2: all women watch on the podcasts and TV and stuff.
Speaker 2: What do you think you know?
Speaker 4: I have? I'm kind of mixed on that because the
Speaker 4: true crime people that are really into true crime were
Speaker 4: into it a long time ago before this current. I
Speaker 4: don't know, flavor of the day, you know, it's it's
Speaker 4: the genre of the day, true crime and I've listened
Speaker 4: to some of these podcasts, and I'm sorry. If you
Speaker 4: can't make a story compelling enough that I'm not asleep
Speaker 4: after the first six minutes, hang it up. You failed
Speaker 4: as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they used to make it pretty munch on.
Speaker 4: Netflix started the let's do the documentary on this evil
Speaker 4: event that happened and try to follow it from the
Speaker 4: beginning to the end, the Making a Murderer series, and
Speaker 4: then the one they did before that about the kid
Speaker 4: that does supposedly killed his girlfriend but he wasn't there.
Speaker 3: And you know it's.
Speaker 4: It's grown to the point the true crime I don't
Speaker 4: think has much more or left before people are leaving
Speaker 4: it for something else.
Speaker 3: But send me damn podcasts out there now.
Speaker 4: I don't see how people choose or have the time
Speaker 4: to listen to all the shit that they claim that
Speaker 4: they're listening to.
Speaker 3: Well, let me let me it's just amazing.
Speaker 2: Well let me ask you this, because it's got a
Speaker 2: longer lineage than people give it credit for. And God
Speaker 2: help me, I'm about to bring this up helter skelter.
Speaker 2: All right, Going back to Vince Bugliosi and his actual
Speaker 2: ghost author, you know, the guy who actually wrote the book,
Speaker 2: you know, based on that legend, Tom O'Neill's still getting interviewed.
Speaker 2: That is to me where the modern true crime thing started.
Speaker 2: And then you had the Bill Curtis thing biography on
Speaker 2: A and E network, you know, the Nightline thing went
Speaker 2: to all murders all the time. And oj Simpson, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think there's always going to be a thirst for this.
Speaker 2: And Jimmy James might have a point though that might
Speaker 2: be indeed, where the female listeners are, even if it
Speaker 2: is almost burnt out at this point.
Speaker 3: What do you think of that's awesome?
Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 4: I'd like to look at the demographics of some of
Speaker 4: these podcasts and see who they're pulling in, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's the funny thing is, if you hire the
Speaker 2: right company, you can get different demographics. You know. I
Speaker 2: gather from various sources for this, and I'm only paying
Speaker 2: one of them because I'm paying them for other services.
Speaker 2: And it just comes along with it. But it is
Speaker 2: an expensive proposition to even accurately count up your people
Speaker 2: because YouTube doesn't tell you the truth.
Speaker 3: Okay, and they adjust numbers like crazy.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, in your numbers. They get adjusted all
Speaker 2: the time based on political decisions, to be honest, and
Speaker 2: you'll have listeners and viewers disappear and ours disappear or
Speaker 2: appear suddenly at for all kinds of weird reasons on
Speaker 2: YouTube and youtube' want to look just platforms in the world.
Speaker 2: Apple as proprietary information that you've got to pay a
Speaker 2: premium to get. Okay, but that's only Apple users. So
Speaker 2: what do you do?
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's becoming so fragmented. I mean, like that's now to
Speaker 4: watch all my NFL games, they want me to buy
Speaker 4: four subscriptions, which cost four times what my internet costs,
Speaker 4: just to be able to watch every game that's broadcast.
Speaker 4: That's not every game out there, And the only other
Speaker 4: way to get around that is to buy NFL Network
Speaker 4: for freaking one hundred and something a year.
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. It's just like with NASCAR.
Speaker 4: NASCAR used to be on broadcast TV, and these these
Speaker 4: broadcast TV channels that owned or were owned by a
Speaker 4: corporation that had cable channels.
Speaker 3: All right, we're going to start throwing the racist cable.
Speaker 4: They lost audience, they're losing ticket sales because of it.
Speaker 4: They price themselves out of the market of their average
Speaker 4: sand and people are saying, the hell with it. True,
Speaker 4: they want to you know, if that's what they want
Speaker 4: to do, fine, they'll eventually die.
Speaker 3: And they're close to dying now.
Speaker 2: See. I think the same thing's happen in the Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball You know that.
Speaker 3: To a degree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's almost impossible unless you pay some subscription
Speaker 2: service to watch more than one game a week or
Speaker 2: more than.
Speaker 3: Two lucky, to get the one game a week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can buy the MLB package. And now
Speaker 2: with Netflix. That's another weird thing, is NFL. Even if
Speaker 2: you do buy those subscriptions, you're also going to have
Speaker 2: to add Netflix to the mix too, right.
Speaker 4: Well, well, the problem is you buy the you buy
Speaker 4: the stream of service, but you've got to buy the
Speaker 4: internet to get it, so you're paying double.
Speaker 2: Well see, that's the other funky thing about it is
Speaker 2: that even if you okay, I pay from internet service
Speaker 2: and you don't use their proprietary stuff, now you're going
Speaker 2: to pay for the data and you want to watch
Speaker 2: high quality football game. Guess what heavy data use.
Speaker 4: Ah well, not only that, I mean I'm paying my
Speaker 4: internet has costed me a hundred bucks a month because
Speaker 4: I've got one gig service. I don't worry about streaming.
Speaker 4: I don't worry about running five things at once. But
Speaker 4: I'm having to pay one hundred dollars a month, and
Speaker 4: then on top of that another twenty to thirty a
Speaker 4: month for these streaming services. You know, the streaming service
Speaker 4: offered by my cable company is so poor that I
Speaker 4: have to pay a ten bucks to get a box
Speaker 4: so that I can put YouTube and Max and everything
Speaker 4: else on my TV. Right now, I'm paying one hundred
Speaker 4: and ten dollars a month, and that's I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: That doesn't count the cost of Netflix or Peacock or.
Speaker 3: Amazon Prime. What is it now for an Amazon Prime membership?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Dolls a year or more, I think, so, I don't
Speaker 3: know it.
Speaker 4: I don't have now to watch football, I've got to
Speaker 4: get Peacock, Amazon, ESPN or just deal what they give.
Speaker 3: Me on broadcast TV.
Speaker 2: Right and then I'm talking much what's on.
Speaker 4: Broadcast TV is going to go to some streaming service
Speaker 4: or cable eventually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you use too much data, you know
Speaker 2: you're gonna get hit with one hundred or fifty dollars
Speaker 2: more for that other you know, next next step up
Speaker 2: in your data. And I'm telling you people don't realize
Speaker 2: you watch Netflix in high you know, in high resolution
Speaker 2: every day. You might just max out your data. So
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, they're like pricing you into
Speaker 2: a position here where it's like you have two cable
Speaker 2: bills anymore. You know, it used to have one cable bill,
Speaker 2: but you have two cables.
Speaker 4: And that's to I mean luckily broadcast TV and the
Speaker 4: additional channels that these major channels carry. You can catch
Speaker 4: old movies, you can catch this, you catch that. But
Speaker 4: it's a broken up schedule. And still I've got forty
Speaker 4: some odd channels. I don't watch half of them. But
Speaker 4: at least I've got an option there with my streaming box,
Speaker 4: I can get TV and the rest of them.
Speaker 3: I've got Max as part of the deal.
Speaker 4: So oh, the Righteous Gemstones have got their latest season
Speaker 4: out too, So by the way, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, but it's but it's only what episode six now, right,
Speaker 2: I think?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I believe it or not? You and I,
Speaker 2: you and I share that show.
Speaker 4: It's so hard now to be able to afford media
Speaker 4: in any form. I mean your phones. They've been they've
Speaker 4: been gouging on data since day one.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's like it worked.
Speaker 4: Everybody would say, oh, well, I get my phone for
Speaker 4: twenty five dollars a month. Oh okay, yeah, but you
Speaker 4: had to buy four of them, get that, didn't you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so you're paying one hundred dollars a month and you're
Speaker 4: only limited on your own. It's unlimited data, I said,
Speaker 4: until you start using that thing as a hotspot for
Speaker 4: a Wi Fi connection.
Speaker 3: Then they kill you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because again is thirty gigs a month for an
Speaker 4: additional twenty five dollars thirty dollars.
Speaker 2: And they tell you, and they tell you, they lie
Speaker 2: to you until you know it's unlimited. And here's the thing.
Speaker 2: They start throttling you back once you go over a
Speaker 2: certain amount, and that means.
Speaker 3: It's the hotspot data.
Speaker 4: Enough, I'm using my phone like when I would come
Speaker 4: in from the road, my cable might have been out
Speaker 4: for a day because I didn't pay the bill.
Speaker 3: I'm waiting till I get home.
Speaker 4: So as soon as I get home, I'm using my
Speaker 4: phone as a hotspot for my home computer. Right, well,
Speaker 4: pay the bill that I'm I'm back on cable. The
Speaker 4: thing is, it kills that data. They only give you
Speaker 4: so much as hotspot, and that's where you need it.
Speaker 3: I need it more there than I need being it.
Speaker 4: But I'm not going to stream a freaking movie on
Speaker 4: my damn telephone. The screen's not big enough. I'd have
Speaker 4: to have binoculars to see the subtitles. I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: do it. So for me to do it on my computer,
Speaker 4: I don't mind. But I'm limited at thirty gigs for
Speaker 4: what I pay, and it's almost sixty bucks a month
Speaker 4: off my phone.
Speaker 3: And when that thirty gigs hit, that's it. That's no more.
Speaker 3: You don't even connect with the Internet on your phone.
Speaker 3: It's so bad.
Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely football, Absolutely, Hey, look, we have gone this
Speaker 2: far with no break. So you know what I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do is I'm gonna take a quick break and get
Speaker 2: back around whoever's on the line. It looks like Danny
Speaker 2: hung up, though, but Jimmy James is still there. I
Speaker 2: think he's got a brilliant idea though regarding true crime.
Speaker 2: I just put him on hold. I think I think
Speaker 2: I just put Jimmy on hold. Anyway, Oh, Danny's back great,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm gonna take a quick break and get
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Speaker 2: Alright, second and final segment for tonight. And I don't know,
Speaker 2: my microphone's down a little bit. No, there we go. Hey,
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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, yeah, these next couple of weeks
Speaker 2: will still keep the same phone number three one nine
Speaker 2: five two seven five zero one six. That's the number
Speaker 2: to call in, be Pete before I bring back any
Speaker 2: callers or take any new ones. But looks like we
Speaker 2: just got Jimmy on the line still, although Danny called
Speaker 2: in left called back left. I don't know. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: is what it is? What else should we talk about?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think Jimmy's got a point though
Speaker 2: about true crime. Regardless, we may have to mind for
Speaker 2: that even if it is a uh, you know, not
Speaker 2: at its peak. Maybe that that is where the female
Speaker 2: listenership is what do you think.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just kind it hard to believe that some of
Speaker 4: these podcasters are getting the numbers that they're claiming, unless,
Speaker 4: I mean, unless you're an at home mom that has
Speaker 4: nothing to do all day but put on podcasts and
Speaker 4: listen to them.
Speaker 3: I don't see what people at the time to listen
Speaker 3: the way numbers are claiming. Well, I don't think it's
Speaker 3: I don't think it's accurate.
Speaker 2: Well, let's connect a couple of threads here, all right,
Speaker 2: One think about it. If your content is costing you
Speaker 2: a lot of money, you might be looking for some
Speaker 2: content that doesn't that has commercial support. Right, So if
Speaker 2: you get ads with your podcasts, you don't got to
Speaker 2: pay for Like, you don't got to pay You could
Speaker 2: download my podcast normally the majority of what I put
Speaker 2: out for free, So you got free content there and
Speaker 2: it's not that much to stream it. You can also
Speaker 2: ready for this, A lot of people play stuff while
Speaker 2: they sleep, right, And I know some of the YouTube
Speaker 2: I mean I marveled at the kids videos years ago.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever watched this phenomena, but
Speaker 2: there was like stuff on YouTube where basically people just
Speaker 2: broke open toys and candy bars and stuff, and you
Speaker 2: didn't see their faces. You just saw their hands opening packages.
Speaker 2: And little kids used to that and they would get
Speaker 2: millions abuse, millions and millions of abuse within the first
Speaker 2: couple of weeks of posting stuff. And they found that
Speaker 2: these kids were watching the same videos over and over again,
Speaker 2: and sometimes they were just running long YouTube loops. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know is that happening with podcasts. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: What do you think.
Speaker 4: I don't know, really, I don't see where. I just
Speaker 4: don't see where it is. Based on the subscribers is
Speaker 4: one thing. But actually listening streaming, and that's a big thing.
Speaker 4: Getting back to damic conversation on kpop streaming. It figures
Speaker 4: into all of these awards that they win through these
Speaker 4: various organizations throughout Asia. Right, So you've got people that
Speaker 4: push streaming, push it, push it, push it. You know
Speaker 4: you've got I mean, they tell you the trick. You
Speaker 4: listen to it one time, you have to let so
Speaker 4: much time allow before you reloaded and play it again,
Speaker 4: or it doesn't count as an individual stream. Okay, you
Speaker 4: know they've got you know the I've got pamphlets out
Speaker 4: there to tell people how to do this so that
Speaker 4: we can win this next upcoming music show.
Speaker 3: It's just amazing how much they get into it.
Speaker 4: But I'd be curious to see what the habits are
Speaker 4: because I just don't see the numbers.
Speaker 3: There's not that many people with that much free time
Speaker 3: on their hands.
Speaker 4: Ayes are all like me. There's at home now, not work,
Speaker 4: and they got shit to do. The last thing I
Speaker 4: want to listen to is twenty four to seven true crime.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've seen so much true crime that the
Speaker 4: stories they're bringing out now is stuff that we saw
Speaker 4: fifteen years ago on the forensic files.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of it is. And the other
Speaker 2: weird thing is, I don't know. I don't think there's
Speaker 2: as many night workers as there used to be, But
Speaker 2: then again, there's Amazon warehouses everywhere. And I used to keep,
Speaker 2: you know, an earbud in my ear working a lot
Speaker 2: of my night jobs to try and just you know,
Speaker 2: and I was listening to all kinds of podcasts in
Speaker 2: the early days when you know, it wasn't a billion
Speaker 2: dollar industry, when they weren't paying Joe Robe two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty million dollars. Ye, I'm still a floored at that.
Speaker 2: By the way, two hundred and fifty million dollars a year.
Speaker 4: To Joe Rogan, which just shows you how much disposable
Speaker 4: lover companies companies are.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's but that I can't even fathom how
Speaker 2: he justified, Like how that is justifiable. First of all,
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan sucks. I know, he gets top tier guests,
Speaker 2: and he's the big man, and you know he's not
Speaker 2: even the number one on Apple this week or whatever.
Speaker 2: He pops on and off the charts, right, but consistently
Speaker 2: he keeps showing up.
Speaker 3: Well, he does do a longer form than a lot
Speaker 3: of people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the funny thing. The industry trend is saying,
Speaker 2: don't do that.
Speaker 4: By the way, I know, I know, but I mean,
Speaker 4: he'll get somebody on for two hours, two and a
Speaker 4: half hours.
Speaker 3: We'll have somebody on for forty five minutes. It just
Speaker 3: depends on who the guest is and from what they
Speaker 3: can cover.
Speaker 4: But right, I mean, he's you talk about industry plans,
Speaker 4: I think very seriously that Joe Rogan is an interesting
Speaker 4: plan in the podcast genre and he's doing what exactly
Speaker 4: what they're paying him to do.
Speaker 2: Right, And then you got a guy like Russell Brand,
Speaker 2: who you know obviously was even though despite the sex
Speaker 2: charges or whatever, he's gonna face next month, he's doing
Speaker 2: just mine, you know, streaming and doing stuff on Rumble.
Speaker 4: He is.
Speaker 3: But I can't take him. Say, I can't take anybody
Speaker 3: who wears a man bun.
Speaker 4: Seriously, I'm sorry, does sit there in pontificate, take the
Speaker 4: fucking man bun out. It looks stupid. You're not something
Speaker 4: that damn Japanese samurai, So just take.
Speaker 3: The shit out. Wear a hat if you have to.
Speaker 3: For these stupid man buns. I'm sorry they got to go.
Speaker 4: I'll be glad we get out of this damn face
Speaker 4: stupidest thing ever seen or fucking rune.
Speaker 2: See, it's so hilarious because I had long hair for many, many,
Speaker 2: many many years, right and when I was a musician. Look,
Speaker 2: I did it up all different ways. Let my girlfriends
Speaker 2: tie it up all different ways, because I just needed
Speaker 2: to do work or whatever and I didn't need my
Speaker 2: hair hanging. And occasionally, well occasionally I ended up with
Speaker 2: the man bun. I'm just saying. But it wasn't on purpose,
Speaker 2: It wasn't a fashion statement.
Speaker 3: It was just well see now it is, and it's
Speaker 3: a stupid one, and guys need it. If you go
Speaker 3: your hair, let your hair the ponytail. I don't care.
Speaker 4: If your hair is long, that's fine, but man bun's
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I'm not taking anybody serious that has one.
Speaker 4: I don't are.
Speaker 2: But you saw how I handled mine. I just pulled
Speaker 2: it back and kept the ponytail, you know, when I
Speaker 2: was doing most things.
Speaker 3: You know that.
Speaker 2: But and look I didn't. I don't think I even
Speaker 2: said this on air yet, but I did cut my hair.
Speaker 2: I couldn't take it no more. And it didn't look
Speaker 2: right because I don't like that gray look. My gray
Speaker 2: look is not good, you know, I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: look like William Law. William Law looks like a wizard
Speaker 2: with that white hair. I look like I don't know
Speaker 2: an old man. I I look like I'm gonna come
Speaker 2: up to you and ask you for a dollar, and
Speaker 2: you're gonna give it to me because you feel bad.
Speaker 4: I mean that when when I met Kim that time
Speaker 4: she came down here and I got the books all
Speaker 4: from her. My hair was being a ponytailed then it
Speaker 4: was all. But by the time I got the dollars.
Speaker 4: I cut it because I was just getting.
Speaker 3: On my nerves. But yeah, no, you're it's hard for
Speaker 3: older guys to have longer hair.
Speaker 4: If it turns gray, you know, unless it turns gray
Speaker 4: a certain way, it just doesn't look good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, Like William Law's
Speaker 2: got that like shiny silver look to it, and it
Speaker 2: looks cool. I like if my hair did that, man,
Speaker 2: I would grow it back to my waist again. But
Speaker 2: I can't do it no more. And and plus it
Speaker 2: was getting hot, and man, the South is hot and muggy.
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, so you know what I'm sitting
Speaker 2: here going, I'm done with this. And and plus when
Speaker 2: I was sick, you know, let me be honest with you.
Speaker 2: I mean I basically didn't do anything. I probably didn't
Speaker 2: shower for a month. I'm just telling you. So by
Speaker 2: the time I tried to undo the knot in the
Speaker 2: back of my head, I was just like, screw this,
Speaker 2: I can't do it no more.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was all that bothered me was mine
Speaker 3: in my face all the time.
Speaker 4: I don't like wearing a hat if I don't have to, right,
Speaker 4: But the work I was doing in and out of
Speaker 4: them truck all day and wind blowing like crazy on
Speaker 4: an interstate. It was always in my face. I finally said,
Speaker 4: that's it, it's time going to get this crap cut. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But back when I was a musician, I ended up
Speaker 2: all kinds of weird things. I had girlfriends that figured
Speaker 2: out ways to stick a pen in my hair to
Speaker 2: keep it up even so. I mean I had a
Speaker 2: man bun with a pen sticking out of it sometimes.
Speaker 2: But the fact that people do that like almost like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is my look for today. What the hell? That's
Speaker 2: the most horrible looking.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm there and I have.
Speaker 4: I've put that on in the comments on Russell Brand's
Speaker 4: videos and that on YouTube. You know, dude, give hear
Speaker 4: that man, buddy joll me to take it serious anyway.
Speaker 2: And the funny thing is I kind of like him.
Speaker 2: I I really do. And I feel like they're going
Speaker 2: after him because he's sort of challenged people in different
Speaker 2: ways and they don't like it.
Speaker 4: They're going after him because yes, he's questioning establishment.
Speaker 3: He still has a fan base.
Speaker 4: After everything he went through, the whole Katy Perry debacle,
Speaker 4: the whole craft, his.
Speaker 3: Addictions, I mean, how many people have a dressed, you.
Speaker 4: Know, Parliament over their treatment of addicts and programs that
Speaker 4: they have. You know, he's got a following and he
Speaker 4: built that following on his own.
Speaker 3: Say what you want. He's built a following and now
Speaker 3: he's taken advantage of it. And so what do they
Speaker 3: need to do.
Speaker 4: Let's go drag up some what do this stuff happened
Speaker 4: back in the nineties, didn't it thirty years ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So, I mean, if you got to go that far
Speaker 4: back to take somebody down, hang it up, just hang
Speaker 4: it up right, Okay.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking in the chat room, by the way,
Speaker 2: and they were commenting on stuff when we were talking
Speaker 2: about media, and I'm going to go back to Jimmy
Speaker 2: and whoever else is on the phones in just a
Speaker 2: minute here. But it looks like just jim me because
Speaker 2: they had some interesting stuff to say. People listen on
Speaker 2: commutes and Aaron Franz is in the chat room. He's
Speaker 2: going to be up here in a few minutes. And
Speaker 2: what happened to those unboxing videos? Seems like they have
Speaker 2: been replaced by other shorts now, Yeah, they have been
Speaker 2: pumping out of constant flow. Content is the big virtue
Speaker 2: now quantity not quality. Yeah, but when you do that,
Speaker 2: it's pump out ten minute segments and constantly. And I've
Speaker 2: had more than one media person suggests to me that
Speaker 2: I need to split this show up into ten minute
Speaker 2: segments and put it out that way. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: how do you do that, especially when you're having long
Speaker 2: conversations about complex things. Oh maybe I shouldn't have long
Speaker 2: come conversations.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: And Aaron, you know what, I did consider shaving my head. Uh,
Speaker 2: but you don't know. I don't look. I don't.
Speaker 16: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't look as good as you wo with the
Speaker 2: shaved head. Okay, and I got scars up there. Anybody
Speaker 2: who's seen me with a shaved head pretty much goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: you look like you're gonna be in one of those
Speaker 2: true crime documentaries. You're going to be the guy that
Speaker 2: we found, you know, eight bodies and we're not sure
Speaker 2: who they were, and they've been there for many years
Speaker 2: under the house, and then you're making deals for the
Speaker 2: other thirty Okay when they see me with the shaved head.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you anyway, So I wanted to meet
Speaker 2: that where it was, and uh, let's bring Jimmy back on,
Speaker 2: and what time is it? Jeez? The Age of Transitions
Speaker 2: will be beginning. Holy crapping. Only about five minutes. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's let Jimmy get in and then we'll get out
Speaker 2: of here for this week. I don't know. Anyway, enjoy
Speaker 2: the podcast because nobody's calling in. Uh and you know,
Speaker 2: there you go? Do what do I still do? The
Speaker 2: call in show? Feedback please in photochelli dot com or
Speaker 2: blind JFK researcher at gmail dot com, hit me or
Speaker 2: be Pete up on X let us know, let us
Speaker 2: know what to do. B Pete's willing to roll with
Speaker 2: the punches whichever way we go, so let me know. Anyway, Jimmy, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: you're back on. So what else you got?
Speaker 7: I you tell me what's the question?
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the question? I got many many questions and
Speaker 2: we've only got five minutes, so I was just hoping
Speaker 2: for whatever was. What do you think is the biggest
Speaker 2: thing this week that people were talking about? I mean,
Speaker 2: did you run in anything relevant this week that you
Speaker 2: think is the most important thing people should know? Also?
Speaker 2: What do you think about this weird contrast with this guy? Look?
Speaker 2: I probably know where you're going to go with this.
Speaker 2: But Trump reading off, you know, his domestic violent stuff
Speaker 2: in the Oval office. I got really nasty, mixed feelings
Speaker 2: about that. And it's got nothing to do with Trump,
Speaker 2: because I had a first wife that made me out
Speaker 2: to be a wife beater and a stalker to people
Speaker 2: all over whorld for a little while. And I'm not
Speaker 2: that guy, you know, despite the Italian jokes some people
Speaker 2: could make, I'm not that guy. So you know, people
Speaker 2: do things when they're splitting up, and people do nasty
Speaker 2: things when they're splitting up and lie on you. And
Speaker 2: you know what, Donald Trump should know that because if
Speaker 2: we went with every statement that his ex wives were
Speaker 2: making when he was divorcing them, you know, even as
Speaker 2: supporters would have to run if you bought all that.
Speaker 2: But even I don't, just because I don't know. I'm
Speaker 2: a man and I know how that crap works. But anyway, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: what's your thoughts on it?
Speaker 7: Well, I don't think Trump. I didn't watch the thing.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm so sick of that. It's like twenty
Speaker 7: four seven Camp Plain cover. It's even though the camp
Speaker 7: Plain's long since supposedly over right, I just find it
Speaker 7: very tightsome and I just have it be watching it.
Speaker 7: But uh, okay, so you're ready. Yeah, but okay, what's
Speaker 7: the context? By any chance, did some fake reporter say
Speaker 7: something crazy, mister Trump, what about that Maryland man who's
Speaker 7: just getting along, you know, doing this thing and you
Speaker 7: just threw him out of the country.
Speaker 2: For no reason.
Speaker 7: So the guy spread off some of his criminal rap sheets.
Speaker 7: Sounds like it was.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yah, it's funny.
Speaker 7: I got way more grievances against the going zons of
Speaker 7: DC than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But here's the thing. If that guy had a
Speaker 2: situation where the judges ruled that he was able to
Speaker 2: stay here and wasn't actually guilty of a crime, Okay,
Speaker 2: if he wasn't, which is the story that was quoted
Speaker 2: at first, and there was no public record on it.
Speaker 2: He's saying, judges attested to the fact that he was
Speaker 2: a gang member. Judges attested to that, but nobody went
Speaker 2: and investigated it. And then there was the domestic violence
Speaker 2: thing that again the wife had came out and already said, look,
Speaker 2: we had trouble back then, we went to counseling, we
Speaker 2: fixed it. Uh, that's not a reason to deport somebody
Speaker 2: domestic violence with your wife. Sorry, especially if it's a question.
Speaker 7: Here's I've seen You're just for some reason. It's amazing
Speaker 7: you just go with the wrong on this. There's no
Speaker 7: doubt in my mind whatsoever that this man was a
Speaker 7: gang member, and no, his wife's begging and pleading for
Speaker 7: that bastard to never come back.
Speaker 2: But that's what Trump said. But then she went on
Speaker 2: television herself and said differently.
Speaker 7: At the end of the day, Donald Trump, and not
Speaker 7: no judges, is the chief immigration officer. That Supreme Court
Speaker 7: said that nine to zero.
Speaker 2: Cool, So yeah, that's over with, okay, cool?
Speaker 3: So when I didn't want.
Speaker 7: That to be my last word, how'd that get to
Speaker 7: be my last word?
Speaker 2: It's not your last word. More. I'll let you have more.
Speaker 2: But you know what, I just I just wonder if
Speaker 2: everybody's going to be happy with this when due process
Speaker 2: is not not for anybody anymore. But okay, cool, great.
Speaker 7: Americans is in he was all of them.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 7: Due process is due in a criminal case, and in
Speaker 7: a court case, and in a civil case, but not
Speaker 7: in an immigrationis case of an illegal alien. And I
Speaker 7: ain't gonna get into that crazy stuff though, all.
Speaker 4: I could say is we need to.
Speaker 7: Buy a lot of horses, man, because uh.
Speaker 5: Or horsepower?
Speaker 2: All right, cool?
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 4: I do like that.
Speaker 2: But you know, the guy you're listening to right now,
Speaker 2: the guy speaking me, I could easily be labeled as
Speaker 2: a domestic terrorist and deported. So if that happens, I'm
Speaker 2: going to remember all of you just tell him you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't because you were born here a natural lot
Speaker 3: of citizens. This guy isn't. It's an immigration case. There's
Speaker 3: no new process in immigration. They're not allowed a trial.
Speaker 4: They went to fort some time back and some judge
Speaker 4: put a hold on his deportation order. But they can
Speaker 4: override that and deport him. Well's the way the immigration
Speaker 4: laws are written.
Speaker 2: Well here, here's here's the problem. Citizen or not. If
Speaker 2: you're declared a terrorist, you are eligible to be deported.
Speaker 2: And Trump wants them to be more prisons than Nol
Speaker 2: Salvador so he can start sending some of our bad
Speaker 2: guys from here. So you know, just saying it might
Speaker 2: be in the future.
Speaker 4: So if that happens, all right, I'm gonna end my
Speaker 4: section with this quick trivia question.
Speaker 3: What premiered on this day on MTV in nineteen eighty seven,
Speaker 3: and we were talking about the genre.
Speaker 2: Earlier Headbanger's Ball.
Speaker 3: There you go, bad Dings.
Speaker 2: See that. I answered that faster than a JFK question.
Speaker 3: We're getting old. I mean, that's almost forty years ago.
Speaker 2: I know, I was thinking about that earlier. Today is
Speaker 2: that it's two years short of forty years. It seems
Speaker 2: like only yesterday I was talking about stuff only being
Speaker 2: twenty years old. Now I'm talking about stuff that is
Speaker 2: forty years old. I turned fifty three a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago.
Speaker 3: I did, Well, you know, we're all getting older. I
Speaker 3: hit the big sixty five.
Speaker 2: This year, so I'm probably not going to live to
Speaker 2: see that age, my brother, but I'm glad that you
Speaker 2: have anyway. Coming up next on the Ocelli dot Com
Speaker 2: Radio Network is The Age of Transitions with Aaron Franz,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to give the final word this week
Speaker 2: to my co host b Pete because we're over time
Speaker 2: a little bit, but let him get it out anyway.
Speaker 3: All right, you guys hang around for Aaron and Uncle.
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