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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, good morning, good morning, and welcome, welcome, welcome me.

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<v Speaker 2>It is time now for Native Beach right here on

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<v Speaker 2>K one, the one you trust, nine forty five on

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<v Speaker 2>the dot.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, how's it going, John Weston?

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<v Speaker 3>Great Tom o cion Niganta. Hello everyone, Osta suna lei,

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<v Speaker 3>good morning and happy Monday, or as we like to

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<v Speaker 3>say in Cherokee Nation, dog claw not see as always. Tom.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good to see you. And I was asking you

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<v Speaker 3>before the show today, are you ready for Snowmageddon?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, how do you how do you say

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<v Speaker 2>get your snow shoes in Cherokee?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Well, really, I'm gonna I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to look that up, really, because I think we might

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<v Speaker 3>be having to break those out here pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to do that phone or front and call

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<v Speaker 1>chief exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, So you stocked up on bread, milk, and

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<v Speaker 3>toilet paper because those are the usually a three staples

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<v Speaker 3>over one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to see what Walmart's going to be like

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<v Speaker 3>later on the day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy enough Friday when this came out, I know, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and the shelves I think are going to be bear.

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<v Speaker 3>By the time this evening ends. Oh yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 3>was monitoring the computer models for predictions. I've just been

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<v Speaker 3>monitoring the weather app for a while and I've read

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<v Speaker 3>everything from seven inches to thirteen inches and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>the next day have three to four inches maybe, and

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<v Speaker 3>and I mean it's the computer models.

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<v Speaker 1>Are just going crazy all over the place.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like popcorn exactly. And that's that's Oklahoma for Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>what was it? Will Rogers said, if you don't like

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<v Speaker 3>the weather, just stick around a little while, it'll change. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That's yeah. If we could throw a tornado and an

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<v Speaker 3>earthquake in there somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it would be It's quite essential Oklahoma, Oklahoma exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think most people live here when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to the weather, they're pretty skeptical. I know I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I I generally don't even look at the weather app

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<v Speaker 3>until it's like maybe a couple of days out because

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's gonna change, just kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>All over like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's kind of one of those things. I'll believe

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<v Speaker 3>it when I see it, but I am preparing for

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<v Speaker 3>the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a TV weather man for many, many years,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll tell you why.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't do what they do at New Sun Sick exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was batten up in central Illinois. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't do it there. I couldn't do it here exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the best place is to be a

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<v Speaker 3>weather man would be either be Florida or California. It

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<v Speaker 3>was really easy. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I have eight of afternoon shower that's exactly every day

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<v Speaker 2>day killed a hurricanes exactly, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But Happy President's Day to everyone that's today. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to mention that this past Saturday, I attended a little

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<v Speaker 3>training session we had through the Cherokee Nation Community and

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<v Speaker 3>Cultural Outreach Department and whatever community building is in Hulbert.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't know what where Hulbert is. It's down

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<v Speaker 3>a near Tahlequah and it's one of our great rural communities,

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<v Speaker 3>probably best known for being the home of millionaire bull

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<v Speaker 3>rider Ryan Dirt Eater. And you know you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>be pretty darn good at being a bull rider if

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<v Speaker 3>you're if you've made over a million dollars, yes, yeah

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<v Speaker 3>he has. So we have a wonderful Cherokee community there

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<v Speaker 3>as well as a beautiful community building. They've got a

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<v Speaker 3>storm shelter that can hold up to a couple hundred people.

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<v Speaker 3>I've kind of taken a little tour of that at

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<v Speaker 3>an underground billy exactly it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually above ground. It's supposed to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>take a direct impact. Oh yeah, so that's that's what's

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<v Speaker 3>really neat about it. But and we also right next

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<v Speaker 3>to the campus, we have housing for Native speakers and

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<v Speaker 3>elders who live there, which is great because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just one of those things that's kind of all

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<v Speaker 3>this whole idea of building community. You know, if we

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<v Speaker 3>build these community buildings and then if we can build

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<v Speaker 3>housing right next to it, it just kind of acts

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<v Speaker 3>as a hub for community activity. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a great setup. But we had a couple of training sessions.

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<v Speaker 3>One was on computer basics, which some people you still need.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, and then even I, you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>I get older, I start to lose track of some technology,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and I might be talking to a little

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<v Speaker 3>Gen xer or Gen Alpha or whoever kid. Basically, in

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<v Speaker 3>my opinion, I'm nearly fifty years old, so anyone that's

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<v Speaker 3>you in their twenties is considered a kid now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so yeah, and they might mention something to me and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, wow, I had not heard of that. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of those things that's everyone can brush up

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<v Speaker 3>on it. And that was one of the great things

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<v Speaker 3>about this meeting was that kind of covered some of

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff and board governance, which you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>apparent to some people how important the board is for

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<v Speaker 3>a community and how they establish an agenda and make

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<v Speaker 3>and kind of move the community of the direction that

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<v Speaker 3>needs to go, you know, because your board is your

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<v Speaker 3>leadership and it really needs to be an active and

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<v Speaker 3>engage board to make sure that you can get things

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<v Speaker 3>accomplished for your community that you want accomplished. But I

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<v Speaker 3>always think it's great to see the investments Cherokey Nation

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<v Speaker 3>and CEO put into these buildings and making our community stronger.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just amazing because I know the chief is really

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<v Speaker 3>dedicated to it, you know, and these trending sessions are

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<v Speaker 3>one way that they do that. Turnout for this event

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<v Speaker 3>was just spectacular. It's probably the largest we had in

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<v Speaker 3>cco's history of hosting these, and I know everyone learned

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, but we had a great time getting together.

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<v Speaker 3>We always do with these communities. You start to know

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<v Speaker 3>these folks, you go into these meetings and you see

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<v Speaker 3>the same faces over and over again, and you become

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<v Speaker 3>familiar with their communities, and then before you know it,

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<v Speaker 3>you start building these relationships and these friendships that are

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<v Speaker 3>going to last. And it really does mean a lot

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<v Speaker 3>to go to these So before we begin today's show,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to think our sponsor, as always, Coffeell Cooperative

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<v Speaker 3>Credit Union. What can I say about CCCU. One of

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<v Speaker 3>the things impresses me most about them is that they're

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<v Speaker 3>give you a hometown feel when you walk through the door.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it's like greeting friends when you walk in.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course when I walk in, I am greeting friends

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<v Speaker 3>because I know about half the people there. You do exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>so you're treated like it. You're not just feel like

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<v Speaker 3>another customer. That's what I love about it, but you're

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<v Speaker 3>also a friend. Lyle Martin, president of CCCU, and the

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<v Speaker 3>folks there, they always treat you kind of like a

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<v Speaker 3>member of the family. If you're in the market for

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<v Speaker 3>a car loan, financial planning, or you need a little

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<v Speaker 3>extra cash after the holidays, heading up to Coffeel Cooperative

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<v Speaker 3>I had breakfast with Lyle this past week and he

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<v Speaker 3>provided me hooked me up with an awesome swag bag

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<v Speaker 3>of Cooperative Prayer Union stuff. Had a nice little thermal

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<v Speaker 3>lunch pail in it, and a sun visor and some

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<v Speaker 3>other things and some pens and just some great things

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<v Speaker 3>in it. I was kind of surprised the more stuff

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<v Speaker 3>I was pulling out of the bag and all the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff I was seeing. So today we're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 3>you belong, and make sure you put that emphasis on

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<v Speaker 3>thank you are listeners for your continued support and tuning in.

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<v Speaker 3>I get complimented all the time from people I run

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<v Speaker 3>into in the community, They're like, hey, really like the show,

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<v Speaker 3>really like what you're doing. So that's some of the

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<v Speaker 3>best feedback I can get. And I just always love

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<v Speaker 3>running into these folks that know they are actually people

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<v Speaker 3>out there listening and listening to K one, which is great.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I always listening to K one, especially when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes time for weather reports. You know, I know

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<v Speaker 3>the last tornado we had, I was glued to this

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<v Speaker 3>radio station and heard that you guys are all going

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<v Speaker 3>to the basement, and I thought to myself, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the radio station are going to the basement, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's time I go take cover too. It's quite a trick, yeah, exactly. So,

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<v Speaker 3>as I mentioned at the top of the show, we're

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<v Speaker 3>facing snow mcgeddon or the snow apocalypse. I'm sure as

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<v Speaker 3>people will start calling it. But that really got me

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<v Speaker 3>to thinking, you know, what were some of the ways

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<v Speaker 3>that our native cultures could predict the weather or whether

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<v Speaker 3>or not we were going to have a harsh winter.

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<v Speaker 3>So I did a little research on it, and what's

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<v Speaker 3>really interesting is there were some scientists, I'm sure there

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<v Speaker 3>were anthropology students. They actually wrote a paper about this

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<v Speaker 3>very topic, and I was really surprised because one of

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<v Speaker 3>the sources they used was Senator Robert Kerr, because in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifty he sent out letters to Native leaders and said,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you guys predict whether or not we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to have a marsh? Exactly right? Yeah. So Senator Robert Kerr,

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<v Speaker 3>he's perhaps one of Oklahoma's most famous senators. He is

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<v Speaker 3>an extremely influential Oklahoma and oil Oklahoma oil man, and

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, nineteen fifty sent out these letters to

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<v Speaker 3>Native leaders across the nation, challenging them with this he said,

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<v Speaker 3>make some determination with regard to whether or not we

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<v Speaker 3>are going to have an early winter and whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not we may expect a hard winter. So Senator Kerr,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, it was an interesting figure in his

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<v Speaker 3>own right. He was born in a log cabin in

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen ninety six in Ponatac County, which is the Chickasaw Nation.

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<v Speaker 3>He was elected governor twice and senator three times, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was the first governor of Oklahoma who was actually

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<v Speaker 3>born here in Oklahoma territory. So I thought that was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a neat little fact about him. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>he helped usher in space exploration. As a Senator, he

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen sixty one. In fact, Werner Braun Braun, who

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<v Speaker 3>was head of our American rocket program, to help get

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<v Speaker 3>the Saturn five rockets that went to the Moon. He

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<v Speaker 3>actually broke brown with him at that space Flight Center,

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<v Speaker 3>which I thought was just an amazing picture, which I

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<v Speaker 3>just think that's really cool. But Oklahoma has some impact

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<v Speaker 3>on the space program, you know, and I just think

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<v Speaker 3>that's really neat. But of course he was also associated

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<v Speaker 3>with the projects like the Kerr McClellan dam, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>which we all know about. You drive across Oklahoma, you

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<v Speaker 3>had a very interesting life and career, very successful and

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<v Speaker 3>given his personal and professional successes, though, one of the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of interesting. I feel like sometimes I'm coming in

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<v Speaker 3>cultures and trying to understand our traditions and carry them on.

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<v Speaker 3>But ye, at the same time, I have a degree

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<v Speaker 3>in molecular biology of analyzed DNA. I have isolated proteins,

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<v Speaker 3>done protein essays, you know, Western blot interactions, things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's like I very much have a foot

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<v Speaker 3>in both the modern world and the traditional world.

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<v Speaker 1>And not really a bad place to be.

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<v Speaker 3>It really isn't you know. And like I said, he

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<v Speaker 3>old Indian ways and determining such things as the weather,

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<v Speaker 3>because they're practical and have always been able to make

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<v Speaker 3>some very accurate predictions. And it's like, I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>back from native leaders after sending out his letter to

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<v Speaker 3>them in nineteen fifty asked for predictions of the winter,

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<v Speaker 3>and they were very interesting. In fact, one was the

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<v Speaker 3>chief of the Muscogee Creek Nation. He responded back, when

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<v Speaker 3>lots of spiderwebs are in the air, and lots of

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<v Speaker 3>trees such as we see now, it means we still

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<v Speaker 3>have a hard cold winter. Also, when the cornshuck is

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<v Speaker 3>thick and heavy as it is here in Oklahoma, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a sign of a hard cold winter. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just observing nature, observing animals, observing insects, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>been a little teased that spring was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>the other day and I'm starting to see the daffodils

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<v Speaker 3>peak above the ground, and I'm like, I can feel it. Spring,

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost here. Warmer weather is almost here, so hold on,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So the puebl Indians they actually responded back

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<v Speaker 3>from Mexico and they said, whereever there is any out

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<v Speaker 3>of drought before winter, the usually a hard winter will

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<v Speaker 3>follow us. That's kind of how they predicted it. I know.

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<v Speaker 3>The Lakota Sue would actually look at the colouration of

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<v Speaker 3>the sky, and of course, you know, like in Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 3>those are the sky has an odd orange or a green,

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<v Speaker 3>eerie glow to it, you know, And I've noticed that before.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's you know, it's just one of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just look with your eyes, you know, and also

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<v Speaker 3>observe the animals, you know, growing up, I grew up

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<v Speaker 3>going to rain because of the cattle. They exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>You know what they call that when they start lining

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<v Speaker 1>The early bovine warning system.

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<v Speaker 3>The early bowvine warning system. That's good. I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to use that one. Yeah. I'll be driving out there

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll see that. I'll be like, hey, early bovine

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<v Speaker 3>warning system. Yeah yeah, but yeah, the the crow Indians

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<v Speaker 3>which were up in Montana. There was a seventy year

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<v Speaker 3>old up there named Sidney black Hair, and he learned

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<v Speaker 3>a four cast from his father, who is a crow chieftain.

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<v Speaker 3>And mister black Hair predicted a mild winter for southeast

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<v Speaker 3>Montana and northern Wyoming based on observations such as the

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<v Speaker 3>occurrence of early Midsummer snowfall, frequent rains during the fall,

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<v Speaker 3>ants not having gone into the ground yet, which I

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<v Speaker 3>mean if the insects they're going to freeze, they know

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<v Speaker 3>to go below ground. So I mean, just observe in

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<v Speaker 3>your environment, it tells you everything. Also, snake still being

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<v Speaker 3>out and the absence of frogs. You know, of course

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<v Speaker 3>frogs they're going to freeze if those ponds did below

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<v Speaker 3>a certain temperature, so yeah, they're gonna burrow below ground.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Minnesota Chippewa tribe responded by saying that we're

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<v Speaker 3>looking forward with dis may to a long and hard winter,

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<v Speaker 3>and the signs for forecasting outlook for the coming winter

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<v Speaker 3>included if the muskrat or the beaver build an unusually

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<v Speaker 3>high and large house, the winter will be severe. Other

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<v Speaker 3>signs of a hard winter for them included if the

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<v Speaker 3>fur of wild animals is unusually thick, if the bark

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<v Speaker 3>of the tree is thicker, and if the field corn

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<v Speaker 3>is heavily covered with shell. You know, because it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>to predict itself. So those are all sort of interesting observations.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things that we don't overseee which they

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<v Speaker 3>see out in Scottsdale, Arizona, was the heal monster they

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<v Speaker 3>had out there was brilliantly colored, and they said that

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<v Speaker 3>that was a sign from Americopa Indian girl who lived

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<v Speaker 3>on the salt or A river reservation, that it pretends

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<v Speaker 3>a long and very cold winter. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if there's any truth to that, but the coloration might

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<v Speaker 3>have something to do with it. So I just thought

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<v Speaker 3>that was a very interesting thing that she noted. Well. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>as you can see, there's a lot of reliance and observation.

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<v Speaker 3>Observe the sky, observe animals, and observe vegetation, and those

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<v Speaker 3>are some of the best indicators. And I think technology

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<v Speaker 3>is great just as long as we don't lose our

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<v Speaker 3>traditional ways or our humanity and the process, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>And I know that some people are kind of afraid

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<v Speaker 3>with AI when it comes to that. So here in

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<v Speaker 3>Washington County, we've been very busy to our community building.

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<v Speaker 3>We're looking forward to having our renovations completed at WCCA.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of saturdays ago, we began the process of

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<v Speaker 3>through our new food Sovereignty program. And just to be clear,

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<v Speaker 3>here are a few requirements for being served by their program.

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<v Speaker 3>You must be a Cherokee tribal member, live within the

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<v Speaker 3>Cherokee Reservation and that's the fourteen kind of jurisdictional boundaries,

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<v Speaker 3>and not be receiving snap benefits or commodities, and we

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<v Speaker 3>have preference for elders, veterans, Cherokee speakers, but also families

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<v Speaker 3>who need of assistance, but those who are not receiving

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<v Speaker 3>SNAP benefits or or Indian commodities. So anyway, before we

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<v Speaker 3>are interested in participating participating in the program can reach

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<v Speaker 3>me at WCCA pres at gmail dot com. And I

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<v Speaker 3>want to say, if you don't have a Cherokee community,

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and find one. We have several Facebook pages

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<v Speaker 3>you can follow. Also, to be sure to check out

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<v Speaker 3>Fibred Journeys on the mighty six ninety KGGF. You can

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<v Speaker 3>catch Native Beat on the Barcel Radio Facebook page or

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<v Speaker 3>on demand to the Barssel Radio app available in the

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<v Speaker 3>Apple Store. A big wadu, as we say in Cherokee,

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<v Speaker 3>wanishe is, the Delaware would say, wanzi is the Osage

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<v Speaker 3>would say. And to all of you listening, do to

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<v Speaker 3>to goha e until we meet again.
