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Speaker 1: We got d Shawn Walker on the line.
Speaker 4: What's up, Sean ben Ben Ron. That's always good to
join you, guys. I don't know if I can give
you much hashtag insider news, but I'm always uh, I
always feel privileged to people come on here and give
them my hashtag outsider take.
Speaker 2: Hey, I love all the insider knowledge you provide us
here at Cougar Sports. Let's start off with this, if like,
what percentage of healthy is this BYU football team heading
into Texas Tech. I've put it at like ninety five
percent healthy. I think they're right there, ninety five percent
healthy from where they essentially started out on the season,
which I think bodes well for Brigham heading to Lubbock
with game day on the docket.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think any college football team through nine
ten weeks of the regular season is going to be
one hundred percent healthy. I don't think do I use
an exception to that role. That's not a bad thing.
I mean, that's just the nature of the sport, right.
I don't really know like full on percentage wise, but
like if we're talking about like like I feel like
this team is probably three fourths as healthy as optimal
or as as it could be. Like if one hundred
percent really is the matter the fact of the matter,
I think they're probably somewhere between like seventy and eighty percent.
There are a lot of guys that are just dealing
with you know, the bumps of the bruises, the knicks,
kind of some minor injuries, fighting through stuff. I think
there's a lot of that going around. They're getting healthier,
which I think is a good thing. We heard from
offensive coordinator Aaron Roder yesterday say that Jojo Phillips is
on track to make his return on Texas Tech, which
I think is a big pickup in that wide receiver room.
But there are other guys obviously that there are significant
questions about.
Speaker 5: LJ.
Speaker 4: Martin doesn't seem to be one of them. I can't
imagine he's fully healthy. Just after his usage. We saw
him come out of the game at Iowa State, obviously,
and just his usage rate tell me he's probably banged up.
He's probably a little bit nicked and bumped and bruised
and that sort of thing. But he's going to play.
He's more healthy than not. And I think most of
these guys, you're going to see them with some sort
of an element, but they're you know, they're all at
least seventy seventy five percent, which is really all you
can ask for. On this season through again, through eight nine,
ten weeks of the usual college football play, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Sean storylines heading into this Texas Tech matchup. In your opinion,
what are the biggest storylines and why?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean the number one thing is is this is
And I don't think this has hyperbole been You know
how much I love this week in hyperbole, which by
that I mean not at all. I hate hyperbole. But
I really think this might be the biggest game in
BA football program history. They've never gone into a game
where both teams are ranked in the top ten. It
just haven't had it just hasn't had and a Rod
again was really surprised by that because boys have a
lot of really good teams in the history of their program,
but a lot of those really good ones they were
competing in the Whack or the Mountain West, and the
opponent wasn't necessarily all the way up there. So this
is it's the lowest combined ranking of both teams and
one of the lowest in program history. I think that
Miami game from the nineties kind of comes to mind
as like being close, but that was still I mean,
that was a number one team and then a twenty
five ish team right in there. So when you're talking
about seven eight or eight nine, depending on which poll
you look at, I think just those numbers and posters
and everything say this is the biggest game in the
Cougar's history. And so you got to wonder to do
the Cougar's rise to the occasion of that, or does
Texas Tech maybe rise to the occasion of a program
building or the very least a season building win over
a very good YU team at home with their first
ESPN College Game Day appearance seventeen years. I mean, I
think there are a lot of reasons to just point
to why this game is big. Oh and in addition,
by the way we saw last night from the CFP
Selection Committee first release, that this is probably a game
that will determine significant aspects of the college Football Playoff,
whether you're talking about overorld selection, whether you're talking about
potential host games in that first round. Like, I think
this game has conference title implications though that's obvious, It
has CFP applications, and it has just overall program implications
for about BYU and Texas Tech. So I don't feel
hyperbolic saying this is the biggest game in BA football history.
Speaker 1: That's a hot take, It's a fiery take.
Speaker 2: I was having that discussion with a few people yesterday
in preparation for the weekend slate of games, and I'm like,
man like, looking back at the past, BYU said some
big time games, right, and look, the next one's always
the most important.
Speaker 1: That that's that's just the nature of the business.
Speaker 2: Will we herald this as one of the biggest games
in BUA football history afterwards?
Speaker 1: Is the question?
Speaker 2: After this season, because I guess you could have made,
you know, certain arguments about you know, last year's season
and how big of a game it was to play
Utah in the same conference. And but you know, right now,
with everything on the line, it feels or a lot
a lot of it on the line your maybe your
your path to the Big Twelve Championship and a birth
in the college football playoff.
Speaker 1: In the modern era. It's definitely the biggest game in
the modern era.
Speaker 4: And I think and I think that's actually a really
big piece of why this game is so big, because
it doesn't have that traditional rivalry type element to kind
of drum up how big this game is. Right Like
b y U and Texas Tech, there's not really like
a there are connections between both schools. You know, they're
both related programs of the late great Mike Leach. Forever
Rest in Peace right, And maybe we call this the
Mike Leach Bowl or the Mike Leach Classic Ethic or tieable.
Either way, I'll continue workshopping that one for you guys.
So I think there are connections with this program and
this is with these two programs, and there's something that
could maybe grow. But I want to call this a
rivalry by any means BYU and Texas Tech. I just
I just don't think it's there. Maybe it eventually gets there.
But it's not right now. I think it's got a
long way to go to become that. But I think
that makes this game even bigger because you don't have
that initial rivalry element, you don't have that initial hatred
between two fan bases. You you know, you've got a
healthy amount of respect between Kalona Sattacki and his staff
and Jery Maguire and what he's building in the West
Texas oil fields. Like that's that's obvious and that's there,
I think, but there's nothing like that the like super
seeded Sport or the supersedes Big twelve football kind of
propping this up. And yet that being said, there are
still all these implications for this season, for the conference,
for the CFP, for both programs that I think make
this game absolutely massive, regardless of where you would rank
it on a one, two, three typle list.
Speaker 2: Sean WALKERKSHL dot com. Here on the USB and the fan,
what have you been writing about on your platform this
week and what are you going to be dropping on
your platform later on this week?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's all CFP right now.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: College basketball season also started. Just got back from Las
Vegas with Aja Bonsa, Kevin Young and that crew after
their win over over Villanova to open the season. And guys,
let me tell you down there at Team Obile Arena
in Las Vegas, it was a show he at national media,
regional media, a lot of local media in particular from
two Big twelve schools in YU and Arizona. I mean
it was. It was an absolute showcase. And that's even
football tipped off for either one of those games, obviously
Arizona beating the ragning champs in Florida and then YUS
win over Villanova. Like as big as this football season
has become, and I don't want to step on football's
toast too much, so we won't. We won't. We don't
necessarily need to go too far into it. But this
basketball season has the potential to really be something special.
I've been calling it the most anticipated basketball season in
BYU history, and everything I saw this weekend and leading
up to Monday night, even up to the game, really
kind of confirms my suspicions. Like the amount of just
weight and anticipation for what Kevin Young and his group
could do on the hardwood I think is pretty unique
and pretty special in BYU.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the basketball team showcased extremely well. I think throughout
there was other times where it didn't a little bit
of maybe a rotational issue, maybe you know, a sense
of urgency. Maybe there was a little bit of a
cruise control element there. But when it counted at the
end of the game, they pulled away and really were
aggressive defense. Really have you seen? I mean this, The
defense to me may have been the most impressive, like
when when they had to win possessions, when they had
to win on the defensive end, I think watching them
fight through screens like just elusively and physically was maybe
the most impressive thing of the night. Including Keba Kata
right keby Cata was uh with the was the bee's knees.
He was uh just the best thing I watched all
freaking night. He was dominant, He was amazing. He was
if Blake Griffin and and uh, who was it who
was I talking about here with Ben Wallace? Blake Griffin
and Ben Wallace had a baby. That's what That's what
you'd get is Cabacada.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a little bit of h he's got
a little bit of Kim and Mudumbo and him and
I'm not just talking about when he swatted a ball
into about the seventh or eighth row at T Mobile Arena.
Speaker 6: I mean it was.
Speaker 4: It was absolutely incredible. Eight point seven rebounds, three blocks, Uh,
I mean it's and then I don't even think the
stats necessarily come close to describing what Kvakata was able
to do. Ajda Bonsa was definitely impressed. He said he's
never played with somebody quite like Kiva Ketta for all
of the for all of the talk, and I think
most people sort of paid that price of admission in
Las Vegas to see Ajda Bonsa, to see Robert at
the third, to see what this BOAU team can do.
Kba Kaida absolutely stole the show. I struggle to remember
a time I don't know if it's ever happened or
a BA basketball team has had the length and the
athleticism at one time to be able to put on
the court as what this BYU team has. And it
translates defensively, and I think Kiva Kada is absolutely absolutely
the start. He's got this pit bull mentality that I
think you really need with these thoroughbreds that BYU has
been bringing in through recruiting and the transfer portal and
everything else. He might be just as important to the
state of this team as you know, the former number
one overhall recruit in the country, future NBA draft lottery pick,
and someone like the Bonsa or arguably the best point
guard in the Big twelve or maybe even national, one
of the best nationally. And Robert at the third Like
I've been given a lot of praise with those guys.
Will and by the way, Latcher's leading scorer Richie Saunders
in there. Uh, ky Rik Kada made a statement like
he is going to be a factor and he is
going to matter this by basketball season, Sean, Can I
turn the tables on you and maybe pivoted back to
football a little bit because I asked this question of
partner kingson yesterday. I want to get your take on it.
Then let's go, uh what what uh? If you're pulling
Cava Kba Keda over to the football field, what position
are you putting him in? Because I think the obvious
answer partner here this one is probably tight end. But
I feel like you might want him on the defensive side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a d end. I mean he can catch,
I mean at me as he can high point. You know,
he's okay. But I wouldn't say.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say he's a refined catcher of the pig
skin or for that matter, the basketball like I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's good at lobs.
Speaker 2: He can e can elevate there, he's good at lobbs,
so you can you can maybe hide. Yeah, you could
have him as a field goal blocker, just pat and
field goal blocker, just elevate and just try to swat
the crap out of the football is it's it's being
kicked through the uprights. So those would be the three
things I mean, I would say you probably want to
put him up, get him up to like two sixty
and put him at a defensive end, or you can
just have him as a red zone pret uh uh
at tight end similar way.
Speaker 1: It's what I've been saying this.
Speaker 2: For over two decades now, Like you should have a
specialist like Caleb B.
Speaker 1: Looner.
Speaker 2: Look at what youah did last year with Caleb Loner,
look at what they did. Like he that's exactly who
he was. A field goal blocker. He was a red
zone threat, jump ball specialist. That's what you do, and
that's the that's that's what you do if you have
a basketball player, period like, you can't.
Speaker 1: Put on the defensive side of the ball. Really, you
really can't.
Speaker 2: If it was like a Ziggiansa situation where we had
for four years, yeah put him at d end. But
otherwise you have a one year opportunity. It's all specialists.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I mean a lot of guys have made
long standing NFL careers after being out of being just
special team specialist. I'm thinking of guys like former Southern
Utah standout Miles Killerber, who is still in the league
a decade later as an a whole pro special teams guy.
So I actually I'd like that shot. I really like
that show.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Sean is we look at at BYU athletics
as a whole very healthy right now. Obviously football and
basketball in the top ten in their respective rankings and polls,
but women soccer just.
Speaker 1: Got a big win. I know you're a big fan.
Speaker 2: We had Elie Wahlbrook on the show yesterday, was a
fantastic interview. Is this the healthiest that BYU's athletic department
has been not only monetarily but also collectively as a
sporting entity, Is you know, a competitive sporting entity within
a conference?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think it's up there. The buy
in right now in YU athletics from multiple angles, I
think is really driving a potential golden age uh in
in b YU. And it's not just football, it's not
just basketball. Those are obviously the temple sports. Uh, they're
important and then they're setting out to kind of what
they are. But uh, but you're seeing what Jen Rockwood
continues to do with one the soccer program. You're seeing
what both Olmstead's the olmsty uh, both Heather and her
brother Seawann are doing with the men's and the women's
volley or the womenes and the men's volleyball teams respectively.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: You obviously at Eyestone and the goat delG Taylor with
cross country women's cross country just one of their third
straight Big twelve championship.
Speaker 5: Like there is there.
Speaker 4: Is a men's buy in right now in YU athletics,
and it starts really up at the very top. Like
I give a ton of credit to university President Shane Reese,
he's all in on BA athletics and what they can be,
what they can provide for the university. And then also
Keith working, the academic vice president who's in charge who's
kind of over athletics and advancement and that sort of thing,
Like there is an all in nature to those two
in particular, and a lot of university leadership that I
think is something special. It's something that I don't know
if BYU's ever really had, but it's something that they
need if they you know, they they figured out a
way to get a see that the quote unquote big
boy table or close to it at least in the
Big twelve, and now they're trying to just take advantage
by by showing like, Okay, you know, the mindset I
think is we're here, We're there, now what can we
do to stay there and to potentially dominate on that level?
And I think us really taken all of that to
heart from the top down.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Sean Walker, Ladies and gentlemen, Sean great segment is always
can't wait to see what BYU football can do versus
Tech on the road.
Speaker 1: Do you get a score prediction? How does this game
play on?
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, I mean Tech is I think they areund
nine and a half point favorite. The last night check
that number might have gone a little bit up or
a little bit down. And I tell you what, man,
that feels like a lot. You know, I love spreads,
but that feels like a lot of points. I don't
know I why he goes in a lot of compulse
out the win, but I think this is a game
that should be decided in the final moment, single possession
type of game like this is this is going to be.
It's a battle again. It's battle between the number seven
and number eight or number eight and our nine team
in the country, depend on which pool you prefer, and
I think it's going to play out that way as
a battle of two top ten teams that are just
wayser thin than neck and neck in both the conference
standings and nationally as well.
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my favorite college football inside.
Speaker 1: It's got Matt Brown on the line. Matt, howbeck are you?
Speaker 8: Hey?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 8: I'm doing great.
Speaker 9: I wasn't expecting to be like a leading national story
here over the past two days about this alcohol sales thing,
especially in this market. But you know, right before I
picked up the phone to take your call, like I
just took a break from like filing eighty more of
these requests to try to go get updated data because man,
people cannot get enough of this stuff.
Speaker 2: Why is it that we're infatuated with alcoholic consumption? Alcohol consumption?
Speaker 8: That I don't know?
Speaker 9: But did I tell you what I heard about from
BYU about all this?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 9: No, So for those who hadn't read the story, like
I've a couple of weeks ago, I filed like three
or four dozen requests across the country to get an
idea for how much how many units of alcoholic beverages
were sold at football games? And how much revenue was generated.
You know, I cover business and sports for a living,
and I wasn't so much interested in trying to rank
who the drunkest programs were, but to get a sense
of what kind of revenue can be produced from this
sort of thing. I'm in the process of doing this
now nationally across SBS and SCS schools everywhere, and naturally,
you know, ulias and sell booths in their stadium.
Speaker 5: They're not a public school, so.
Speaker 8: I can't foiler them. The number one school.
Speaker 9: Was Nebraska, which over just three home games, generated over
two million dollars worth of alcohol sold just within the stadium.
The drinking culture in the Great Plains and the Great Lakes,
I think overwhelmingly Trump's that even in the South. The
joke that we had growing up and spending time it
was is that wisconstant such a beer loving state that
like Mormons use oduels to the sacrament there, Like it's just.
Speaker 8: A completely part of the culture everywhere.
Speaker 5: But I was kind of curious. I'm like, obviously you
can't get booze at l Ees.
Speaker 8: But everyone knows that.
Speaker 9: Our brothers and sisters here in this market love sugary
beverages are people downing pop at the same level as
our Nebraska and wisconsint friends are downing beer. And so
I texted a couple of people in the athletic department.
I'm like, I know, you can't tell me the amount
of money. I'm not asking you to doug old your
financial secrets, but can you ballpark this for me?
Speaker 5: And the answer kind of surprised me. You know, basically,
this year, between.
Speaker 9: The refillable cups and the bottled soda and the chocolate milk,
we're looking at under eighteen thousand units sold per football game,
which is far less than the amount of alcohol at
like a typical Big ten or Big twelve institutions.
Speaker 8: So I say this with love, not to make fun.
Speaker 5: Of, but based on that information, I think the LDS.
Speaker 9: Love of thrift is chumping the LDS love of of.
Speaker 5: Of sugar soda. I think.
Speaker 9: I think, I think you've got some brothers and sisters
here who are getting one cup and just kind of
passing it along man, like a like a Eucharris mug.
Speaker 2: Just sharing it. Just uh, maybe there's multiple thraws. Maybe
there's multiple straws in the beverage.
Speaker 9: Yeah, look all I'm saying, flks listening to this is
if you want to buy an offensive line that's going
to get you into the into the college football.
Speaker 5: Playoff every year.
Speaker 9: If you want to go get some more skill position players,
stop being so cheap and go buy yourself.
Speaker 8: Your own diet coke when you go to a game.
Speaker 5: Don't share it with your wife or your neighbor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've ideated.
Speaker 2: You and I have ideated about like these, like co
branding NIL opportunities, like creating products that are utilized consistently
toilet paper, and then rebranding it as like an ni
L almost like white labeling things for NIL.
Speaker 9: Oh sure, maybe not toilet paper, but very much white labeling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, we could call it cougartail. Don't remember
we're talking about we get cougartail tail toilet paper. Right.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I'm just said all I'm saying. I say,
you're buying it. It's like the it's the Amway model.
You're already buying it.
Speaker 2: You buy toothpaste, you buy toilet paper, or buy paper towel.
Speaker 8: Crittle, crittle.
Speaker 9: I live in I don't live in Utah, So the
Amway model doesn't work for me like that.
Speaker 8: That's your language.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: It's it's outside the box thinking in the modern era
of cold it is it is.
Speaker 9: It is that I'm aware of a few white labeled
uh you know products that b YU does and a
couple other schools do in this market.
Speaker 5: And you're right, we have talked about it.
Speaker 9: I I I, for one, absolutely think the school should
do an apple beer.
Speaker 6: I would.
Speaker 5: I would buy it.
Speaker 8: I would buy it.
Speaker 5: I would, I would, I.
Speaker 9: Would do a review of me drinking it on Instagram,
like I've done with other licensed beverages.
Speaker 5: I think that would do well. Everyone and everyone I
want across the country already knows how good.
Speaker 8: The chocolate milk is.
Speaker 9: The the nil beverage world like that generates seven figures
of revenue over the course of the year. There's a
lot of people in my part of the country who
are are drinking nine dollars nil beers at these games,
and that money gets shuffled along.
Speaker 5: You know, not not just to pay for the extra.
Speaker 9: Cops and the insurance policies for selling that much alcohol,
but it goes to new linebackers. The modern problems require
modern solutions. This is what Nebraska's doing I will be
anxious to hear what that looks like here in this
neck of the woods.
Speaker 2: Matt Brown College Football in Saturny Tymes of college football
here on esp of the Fan. You guys got to
check out extra points mb dot com. When he does
into many unique and singular topics that are just you know,
like the most recent one, I don't even know how
to describe it, the utilization and the consumption of alcohol
at respective stadiums and who's winning.
Speaker 1: The alcohol race. I'm like, this is insane. What has
the reaction been?
Speaker 2: And give me the ratings real quick, the rankings like
one through ten of the most you know, the most
consumers and the least consumers.
Speaker 9: So the way that I wanted to do this was
to track data not just in terms of like total
unit sales, but also break it down on like a
on a per capita basis, right, because if you know,
if your stadium only seats thirty thousand people, but everyone's
pounding two and a half during the game, like, you know,
that numbers should look different than if you're if you're
at a one hundred.
Speaker 8: Thousand seat stadium near the top.
Speaker 9: Based on the data that I got so far, Nebraska's
number one Tennessee is in this conversation Kentucky, West Virginia, Minnesota,
and Michigan. Last year, I think it would have been Wisconsin.
Speaker 8: Initially I thought it.
Speaker 9: Was Wisconsin, and then I realized that the school sent
me the wrong the wrong data. The attendance at UW
Badgers games this year has been so bad that even
though Wisconsin I do love there, they're fermented beverages, it's
not enough to put them in the top ten in
the G five world. Ohio and North Texas are near
the top, A bunch of MAX schools and like UMass
are closer to the bottom.
Speaker 8: But we'll see.
Speaker 5: Like I haven't gotten data from Utah.
Speaker 9: Haven't gotten data from from very many institutions within the
inter Mountain West, despite me asking, we're asking again, and
I'm also trying to get this information this time, which
I had not been collecting for hot.
Speaker 5: Dogs, because I don't know. Not everybody sells beer, everybody
sells hot dogs.
Speaker 8: I don't know if if.
Speaker 9: More people consume hot dogs in the in the Upper
Midwest versus elsewhere in the country. That's like the only
food I can think of. It's going to be at
every single stadium like that and popcorn?
Speaker 5: But like who cares about popcorn? So we'll see what
We'll see what.
Speaker 8: Comes back.
Speaker 1: Matt Brown extra points MB.
Speaker 2: What other topics have you been delving into on your
platform that we can feature. I don't know if you've
written anything about the College Football Playoff Committee these rankings,
their initial rankings and ratings if you.
Speaker 5: Will, But uh, what do you what do you guys
think about that?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 9: Like your v y us what seven and you've got
a couple of a couple of Big twelve institutions in
the top fifteen? Is there concern in this market that
that number is too low?
Speaker 8: What do you guys think? Before I tell you what
my initial reaction was, I.
Speaker 2: Think what's interesting to me is this. There's it's there's
two aspects of this. As an undefeated power for team, right,
the only undefeated team in the conference. There's a part
of me that says, look like they should be ranked
higher if if there was a like an undefeated team
like Miami, Like let's say Miami, if Miami's undefeated in
the ACC, they're ranked higher than seven.
Speaker 1: In my opinion that that that's my opinion, right, and
notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Obviously if they're as an independent as a part of
the ACC kind of like an unofficial member of the
they're they're probably top three, being undefeated right now. And
people say strength of schedule, strength of record, all those things,
and I'm like, okay, Like there's a part of me
that says that the Big twelve is still fighting a
PR battle. But for whatever reason, the analytics, the the
numbers game, the number nerds, and the Human Committee love Utah.
Speaker 1: They love Utah, and they they push them up for spots.
Speaker 2: And there's three teams you could argue you have a
chance to make the College Football Playoff from the Big twelve.
So I gotta go back and forth with this. There's
a there's an element that I'm like, ah, there's still
doubting them. Uh, you know, some branding issues with the
Big Twelve. It's not as powerful as obviously the Big
Ten and the SEC, and it competes with the ACC.
Right they they may be on the same playing field
from a PR standpoint, But then I see the Committee
elevate Utah.
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a little bit of bull up
in me here.
Speaker 9: I have to admit, like it's hard for me to
muster really passionate opinions about any of the rankings below,
like sixteen, just because I don't really think there's a
huge difference between a team that's ranked seventeenth and twenty
fifth or even thirtieth. The thing that I'm sure is
frustrating to hear here, like I'm not surprised that BYU
is not getting this. It's not perceived as a peer
right now, to say Texas A and M or perceived
as a peer to Oregon or Georgia or Indiana or anything.
And I have to admit, like, I didn't even really
pay that much attention to this team over the first
month of the season, partly because a lot of their
games will played after my bedtime.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, I love you.
Speaker 9: I'm not staying up till eleven thirty at night to
go watch you guys play Stanford unless I'm.
Speaker 5: Being specifically paid to do it. But are a different
year maybe.
Speaker 9: But now you know, I thought I thought I was
really impressed with the BAU team I saw against Utah.
Speaker 5: I've been impressed with the with the team that I've seen.
Speaker 9: After that fact, but I don't think a lot of
people in that room have been paying that much attention,
and when the best win that that the team has
is Utah, I think that might be the only team
that might be around the top thirty top thirty five.
Speaker 5: I get it, which makes this particular week you know,
you know.
Speaker 8: Game super super important and interesting.
Speaker 9: I imagine even if they lose, but if they're physically competitive,
they still have a great chance to get in depending
on how the ball bounces. That there could certainly be
two teams in the Big twelve that they get a
playoff spot. But you're right, there are some reputational of
some earned some unearned issues with the Big Twelve. Now
I'll be interested to know or to see in a
couple of years if that changes.
Speaker 5: How Bay you approach us out of conference scheduling.
Speaker 2: This is the thing b Yu and Texas Tech are
new money and no one in legacy money, generational money
in these sandemic you know, financial you know Oligopoly's cabals
of the world.
Speaker 1: Likes new money, Matt, you.
Speaker 2: Know it by us, new money at Texas Tech is
new money at least Utah. The reason why Utah jumped
up is because they have some equity over the last
thirteen to fourteen years of being in the PAC twelve
and being a co champion in the PAC twelve and
going to multiple roles balls and that's why they they
move up and they've been pretty hot in the metrics.
That's my thought on it. Uh, would you say there's
some validity to that theory.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's possible.
Speaker 9: That it's funny you used to phrase new money and
a new money is Texas Tech makes a lot of
sense because the most interesting thing about that team is money.
Speaker 5: Given that they have not been shy about.
Speaker 9: Saying, yeah, we have a payroll in you know, north
of twenty five million dollars, we've been unashamed about how
we're fundraising. And that's a roster that is you know,
this year was injected with a lot of really high
profile help transfer talent from other Power programs or programs
that are guys that every Power team wanted. And you
can look at this as like, this is a team
that was constructed with big budget money, like not this
similar from how Oregon has been built.
Speaker 5: And I say that not pejoratively. I don't think that
that's really accurate about this BYU roster.
Speaker 9: And I think one of the things that is kind
of breaking the brain of some national analysts like me,
and I know some of my peers because we all
have group chats we talk about this is.
Speaker 5: That what BYU and what Indiana.
Speaker 9: Are doing doesn't follow the traditional playbook for what it
means to be a national.
Speaker 8: Championship contending team.
Speaker 9: Where you didn't come in and spend big money on
highly productive, coveted transfers. You're not really bringing in that
much elite high school talent. You're nowhere near the blue
chip ratio with how your roster is constructed.
Speaker 8: You're just winning lots of games.
Speaker 9: Like even Indiana which has been aggressive in the transfer
portal and has a brash coach.
Speaker 5: And the programs spent a lot of money.
Speaker 9: Those are most of three star guys and people are
just being coached up and developed at.
Speaker 8: An insane level.
Speaker 5: And you can win that way.
Speaker 9: But that isn't really what we've seen from elite teams
really since like twenty.
Speaker 5: Ten, you know, since this current era you know, continued.
Speaker 8: I don't know how sustainable.
Speaker 9: That is the answer might be, it might be sustainable
enough to win a national championship. The answer also could
be for everything that we've talked about all year, about
how the nil ear has.
Speaker 8: Brought more parody.
Speaker 9: This could still end with an Ohio State Alabama national
championship game, or not Ohio State Georgia or something.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 8: I don't know, I don't. I don't begrudge.
Speaker 9: Anybody that is is not a full fledged believer in
BYU now. But this come this Saturday, like either had
the data or romot it, it will be kind of undeniable
either way, I think.
Speaker 1: Look, I get that.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, the the end result will maybe be
the end result. The the the prestigious programs of college
football historically may win out at the end of the day.
But you gotta have Cinderella's There's gotta be hope.
Speaker 1: There's always got to be a prayer.
Speaker 2: As g Man always likes to say, Brandon Gurney biggest
fan of John bon Jovi, living on a prayer.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's all you need, just living on a prayer.
Speaker 2: You gotta have hope, Matt, and this expanded college football
playoff and the new money gives hope for the little
man that's been stiff armed for so long and has
not been allowed to cheat.
Speaker 1: When others were cheating.
Speaker 2: As you know, everyone was paying everyone with bag men
in that.
Speaker 5: They were just bad at it.
Speaker 9: There's no point in cheating at your poor and some
little guys are doing it is It is funny though, as.
Speaker 2: Said, you was doing it the right way. They just
were surrounded by a bunch of that wanted to give
him the deathly. You can't do that, sm used new money.
They could bondly do it.
Speaker 9: SMU literally had the governor of Texas involved and it
became like a huge political liability. I think I think
if Governor Cox is secretly siphoning money to Utah or
b YU, that would.
Speaker 5: Probably be a problem.
Speaker 9: But I will say, I think you do raise an
interesting point, and I don't have a good reason, our explanation.
Speaker 8: For why this is.
Speaker 9: In America, most people tend to really love the.
Speaker 8: Idea of a basketball Cinderella.
Speaker 5: They love the Sister Jean plucky.
Speaker 9: Catholic school in Chicago's far North Side with a bunch
of parochial kids and two stars making final force. They
love Saint Peter's, they love VCU and Dayton and these
other things. And in football, they freaking hate it unless
you're in metropolitan Salt Lake.
Speaker 8: City or Boise.
Speaker 9: The the idea of somebody that that that doesn't have
sixty five NFL prospects on the roster is viewed as
like some kind of moral affront to sec.
Speaker 5: Ors or some Big ten analysts. And I'm not entirely
sure why that is. I don't you don't.
Speaker 9: You don't tend to see as much sneering on the
unwashed masters from college basketball analysts that went to Duke
or North Carolina the same way you do for football.
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Speaker 10: ESPN the Fan. We're on off the three man Weaver here,
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had to tick off for the rest of today dealing
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Speaker 6: To Wish him the best, Brett.
Speaker 10: We're gonna get into some Cougar bytes finish up the
rest of the A Rod sound. We just got off
the line with Matt Brown. Appreciated Matt joining us. I
thought that was pretty funny. How much booze is being
sold in college football. Nothing I would ever pay attention to,
but I think it's something that you should obviously the
adult beverages people like I think the most important thing
is the BYU Texas Tech game that they talked about
of BAU makes it competitive even if they lose, I think.
Speaker 6: The committee won't drop them below Utah.
Speaker 10: I honestly believe that even if I believe Utah blows
out Baylor and BYU loses an close ball game, I
don't think you Tah will overtake them based off how
they ranked it. But I wanted to get your thoughts
if BYU gets blown out by Texas Tech, not only
do I and I talked about this as bread Day
in the second hour, not only do I believe that
they'll drop in the rankings, they might fall pretty heavily
because remember Brett Utah got blown out by Texas Tech.
It was seventeen eighteen matchup, and Utah just failed to
like twenty seven in the polls. So how do you
see it if BYU lose this close ballgame and they
still ranked above Utah going to nextric. Obviously people predicting
that they win, but if they get blown out, this
might knock them pretty significantly down in the College Football
Playoff rankings.
Speaker 1: You know what, Ron, I really don't know.
Speaker 11: I don't think we have a good fixture on what
the committee thinks about BYU at this point. I think
it's easy to loop the College Footall Playoff.
Speaker 1: Committee in with the national media. But that's not necessarily
the case.
Speaker 11: Like, just because Joel Klatt you feel like doesn't like BYU,
doesn't necessarily mean the College Wall.
Speaker 1: Playoff Committee doesn't like BYU.
Speaker 11: In fact, I think if the committee didn't like BYU,
then they wouldn't have put them at seven. Now The
one counterpoint that I think you could make is it
would be really hard for the committee to put Texas
Tech ahead of BYU, and there were only so many
other teams that you could have reasonably put ahead of U.
Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, I do get it. I think
the Committee believes in BYU.
Speaker 11: I think the Committee put them at seven because they're undefeated.
I think the committee also understands Texas Tech doesn't necessarily
Texas Tech's best win is as good as BYU's best win,
and BYU was undefeated. If BYU were to get blown
out by Texas Tech, that would be tough. I think
they need to keep this one close in order to
make a I think big statement to the national media.
I don't think keeping it close will do anything different
for the CFP because I think they're pretty confident in
how they feel about BYU.
Speaker 1: I don't think losing this game hurts BYU.
Speaker 11: In fact, ron I went ahead and I hit up
the ESPN Playoff Predictor. Right now, BYU has the eighth
best odds at making the college football playoffs per ESPN FPI,
and then I just played around with it and I said, Okay,
if BOU loses to Texas Tech, but then they win
out and they lose the conference championship.
Speaker 1: The ESPN FPI Playoff predictor.
Speaker 11: Still gives BOU a ninety five percent chance to make
the College Football Playoffs. So yes, BOU needs to keep
this thing close against Texas Tech. I still am not
sure how good Texas Tech is, especially given off of
what Case State was able to do against them. I
still think they're one of the top ten teams in America.
But I think this notion that they're in a different
class than BYU and that they're gonna run through them,
I think I think it's a little bit malicious for
us to believe that. So no, I don't think the
national media believes that BYU are I don't think that
the Collegewall Playoff Committee believes that BOU is as bad
as the national media may.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you bring up a good point there.
Speaker 10: I think the reason why people think Texas Tech is
better than BYU is.
Speaker 6: The actual stats.
Speaker 10: When you go and look at Texas Tech defensive line
on what they do, they're probably one of the best
teams at rushing three and I'm putting them up there
with the other SEC and Big ten teams. That's and
I don't want people to think I'm speaking I probably,
but David Bailey leads the nation in sacks. He's the
first round picking, no doubt but him. When they rush three,
they're one of the best teams that bring in just
three in a three three five and getting home like
that's that's what they're able to do in the three
three five, Like you got Jacob Rodriguez behind, and think
that's how scary this team me is is David Bailey
can get home and then Jacob Rodriguez doesn't even do
anything then. And that's why I said this, you know,
earlier in the week. When I say earlier, I mean
on Monday, and I'll keep reiterating it until Friday. But
I think it's more important when bou gets the pall
the ball past the line of scrimmage of that you
hold on to the football than that, because it's honestly
like levels of difficulty, honestly, like I don't know, I
hate to bring out this, this old timer, and Brett
you might know this, but remember spy kids game over
like every level that you got to, it was just
more tough.
Speaker 6: You get past the defensive line, all right, that's that level.
Speaker 10: Okay, he got past David Bailey and you know Gil
and the next thing you know, oh, there's Jacob Rodriguez.
Then they got with this kid named Janowski who's a
transfer from nook Ford State I think or whatever. He's
there then and he's what six five safety. You just
keep having to get through level after level before you're
able to break through. I feel like, kind of like
Spy Kids game over, You're just gonna keep getting more difficult.
It does not go away. So that's what bou has
to face on Saturday. And they perform, but they can
be had, right like Arizona State beat him. Granted that
was on the road and it was with a backup
quarterback will him and as we know, out for the season,
but Sam Level was willing to deal and it's possible
they can. You can throw on this Texas Tech defense
we played the Parker came down in the second hour
in the second segment at the three point thirty, and
I really liked that he said, Okay, you know, go
ahead and try to guard me chasing Jojo, and I
think that was the best thing about Arizona State. Jordan
Tyson is also going to be an All American I
think be a first round pick, but it is going
to be difficult. Bra I don't think you can guard
all three. Sure, you take your lockdown corner, can you
really bracket the rest. When BAU decides that they want
to add Carson Ryan or that they want to add
Cody Hagen, I just I don't know how you guard
it all. Like I think BYU is going to really
be able to throw the football well in this game,
and I think they are going to be able to
expose Texas Tech and the secondary. Not that they're not good,
but that's how formidable I think this BAU pass game
can be. Like I think Chase Roberts and Parker Kingston
are legit wide receiver number ones. I mean, we had
Max shawicker Pro Football Focused on the show earlier, and
on their show they said this is bona fide one
A one B. And then now that you throw in
the wrinkle of Jojo and Cody Hagen. Look, I just
I think if the run game can't get going, if
LJ can, if Joe Vessa can, if Preston Rex can,
I think they'll still be okay.
Speaker 6: Because I do believe BYU will be able to throw
the football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I one hundred percent agree.
Speaker 11: I don't think this Bou team is just going to
get shut down by Texas Tech. I certainly think that
the Red Raiders are gonna show up. Look, I think
this is gonna be a slugfest at the end of
the day. It's gonna be a very good Texas Tech
defense against the Bou offense, who I think knows how.
Speaker 1: To solve problems.
Speaker 11: They have found ways to beat elite pass rushes before.
I think your best example of that would be the
University of Utah.
Speaker 1: You won't have the rivalry element playing into that. Does
that help you? Does that hurt you?
Speaker 11: I don't know, But the fact that you've seen something
similar to this, because remember when BYU came into playing Utah,
John Henry Daily either the week before or that week
was leading the nation in sacks as well. And I
think Utah's d line at least their pass rush is
on par with Texas Tech, even though I probably give
the slight edge to the Red Raid.
Speaker 1: So Bilgia has seen something like this before.
Speaker 11: The question is will they be able to handle it
as well as they did Utah? And honestly, Ron, I
think the answer to that question is yes, because, like
we've talked about a number of times, Iowa State forced
you to learn to be a drop back passing offense,
which they really hadn't had to do to that point
in the season. Really, everything they did, if through the air,
was built off of play action that was predicated on
what LJ.
Speaker 1: Martin did in the run.
Speaker 11: I would say they were able to just drop back
and throw the football. Obviously, you will not have the
time to throw the ball like you did with Iostate
against Texas Tech, but I think they've learned some things along.
Speaker 1: The way that will show them.
Speaker 11: Okay, cool, this is what we can do against the
team like Texas Tech based on teams we've played before.
Speaker 6: I agree, yes, So we're gonna find out. Guys. But
that was Brett Hammer and I are just recapping a
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to number eleven. This is the first ever top ten
showdown in program history.
Speaker 6: A Rod. How are you feeling about that?
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's crazy. There's been so much good football played here.
I would have never thought that hasn't happened before.
Speaker 6: But yeah, we've talked about that.
Speaker 12: It's an honor, you know where I think everybody is
humbled to be a part of a game that big
and on a big stage like this, and we want
to go down there and represent our university.
Speaker 10: Well you hear that, Brett, it's an honor. Yeah, I
can't believe that hasn't happened. First of all, hasn't happened?
And then number two says honored, humble because look, these
opportunities aren't given their earned just like BAU basketball. I
know people like Ron, why are you talking about basketball
in a football segment this football season? But look, these
things are earned. I mean, Kevin Young had the pedigre before,
so it's earning. Even then, the only reason that happened
is because Mark Pope. You got to give credit to
the Pope staff. They won what twenty three and ten
or eleven. No one thought that they would finish six
in the Big twelve. So they finished the top sixteen
at sixteen in the Big twelve. In the first year,
Mark pub goes and goes to Kentucky and then like
oh the Skuy's falling chicken little and then here comes
Kevin Young. So it's earned. You have to earn it
at the end of the day. It's not just hand
it out to you. So here you are eight to
oh for the first time in program history, and back
to back seasons I think fifth or sixth overall, and
now it's been earned that you get.
Speaker 6: A top ten matchup.
Speaker 10: College game day is going and then Aaron rodder Brett says,
it's an honor to be able to do that like
this coaching staff, I believe because of this and if
they win the game, even without the win, but definitely
if they win the game, you will book that this
is the greatest coaching staff.
Speaker 6: Group in the history I think of BAYU athletics.
Speaker 10: If they're able to do that, win the Big Toe title,
get to the college football playoffs.
Speaker 6: Klanne A, Rod J.
Speaker 10: Hill, Kelly Popinga, Kevin Gilbride, Jennaro Guilford, Harvey Unga.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna miss some people, you know, TJ. Woods.
Speaker 10: This entire staff I think will go down as the
greatest coaching staff for one in BAYU football history, because
you can't deny that if you're a top ten team,
you beat another top ten team, you win in the
Big Twelve title, you do that and your third year
in the Big twelve where you honestly probably have no pedigree,
people are picking against you at the national level, and
then you go out and prove the doubters wrong, silence them.
And if you were to do it undefeated for that matter,
which again hard to go undefeated, but if you were
able to do that even with not being undefeated, I
think that's.
Speaker 6: How you write your name in the history books.
Speaker 1: I still cannot believe that this has never happened.
Speaker 11: Every time somebody says that Statu'm like, there's just no
way that that's possible. The BYU hasn't played a top
ten team while being in the top ten, which I
get it does it happen very often?
Speaker 1: And I guess when you throw in the fact that.
Speaker 11: They obviously haven't been a member of a power conference,
obviously they were independent for a while. When you give
that context, it makes it make a lot more sense.
But it's still crazy to think about the thing that
really is sticking with me on this one though, Ron.
I mean, I've already heard people say this may be
the biggest regular season in game in program history, and
I can hop on board with that. But more than that, Ron,
what happens on Saturday will be what people remember because remember,
it's not about how you start, it's how you finish
and agreed what and look, people have no idea what
you're saying, but they remember exactly how.
Speaker 1: You make them feel.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 11: College football fans on Saturday are gonna remember how.
Speaker 1: B why you made them feel?
Speaker 11: Did they make you feel like, oh yeah, B why
you gave it to Texas Tech even in a loss?
Did B why you make them feel oh you know
what those Cougars cooked in Lubbock and it is the
upset of the year, or is it gonna make you
feel like, yeah, this is what I thought YU was.
Speaker 1: I thought they weren't that good.
Speaker 11: College football fans, the college football national media, the college
Football Playoff Committee, they are going to remember how B
why you made them feel after this game in Lubbock
on Saturday.
Speaker 6: So good point. How is this BAU team going to
make them feel on Saturday?
Speaker 10: I wonder if it's gonna give vibes of Baylor from
last year where you're up twenty one to seven.
Speaker 6: I think it was twenty one to seven.
Speaker 10: I don't think it was twenty four to seven at halftime,
and then you come out still with the win granted,
and Sawyer Robinson would have had another five minutes, maybe
that game doesn't go Bou's way. You could play it
doesn't matter, should it could have, would, It doesn't matter.
Cougar's got the victory. Crew wakely sealed it. So I
wonder if he'll be that type of ball game. BA
just goes in and there clicking on all cylinders to
offerences in rhythm and you have no idea what's going on.
So gonna find out. Gonna find out in a couple
of days. I know everybody's waiting Number twelve A Rod.
Has this team gotten better at canceling out the outside noise?
Speaker 12: Well, we'll find out, you know what I mean. That's
that remains to be seen. I think I think we've
already shown some maturity this year, a few lessons we
learned from a year ago. But there's still football left
and so that's the that's the challenges each week, just
staying locked in on this game, one day at a time,
the process that leads up to earning the right to
play with on Saturday, And that's that's really what we're
focused on right now.
Speaker 10: I agree with they Rod yet to be seen. They
were here last year eight or nine to zero didn't
get it done. So I think that's the right answer.
It remains to be seeing Brett. I don't think they
haven't proven it yet because if you get a loss,
oh oh, little deja vu creeping in. I remind people
of the basketball season. Remember two thousand, you know, I
think it was well, I don't know if it was
twenty three to twenty two when.
Speaker 6: You're I think it was. No, it was twenty two
because it wasn't twenty three, that was for sure.
Speaker 10: In the big twelve twenty two to last year of
the WCC, Gonzaga opportunity to win it. Jackson Robinson goes
splits at the line straw the hits the game winner. Okay,
same situation, Adam Mahoney down the hall, doesn't hit him,
and then he and then he ice is a game
puts it away. Look, it might be that type of moment.
You could have a back to back dash. Who don't
think this team will I think they are mature. They'll
show it. But Brett, they're in the same situation that
they were last year.
Speaker 11: I find the response to that question interesting unless he
was asking a question answering a question that wasn't asked
because he was asked how this team has been or
how this team is it blocking out all of the
outsoeed noise, especially when you consider the last night it
was gonna be the see if P rankings drop, and
so I wonder if that went into that question being asked.
Speaker 1: And I love to play the game.
Speaker 11: If you know me, you know that I love to
play this game of what does coach talk say here?
Speaker 1: What would the coach say, you're true?
Speaker 11: And my guess to what a Rod would have said
was would have been, oh, yeah, these guys are great
out blocking out the noise, humble and hungry, a bunch
of those cliches and buzzwords, and that's not what we got.
So either a couple of things are possible here. Number
one could be maybe a Rod is just giving the
media and Texas sec the rope it up, saying, oh,
I don't know, we may not be focused, just to
kind of put it out there that maybe Bealie is
not as focused as they should be, and then obviously
when they go and play the game, it's it's not
even close. Maybe it's possible that he gave that answer
because he was answering a question that wasn't asked, which
would have been I'll know my team can block out
the noise, depending on how they do.
Speaker 1: This Saturday, which.
Speaker 11: To me that I think is the likely scenario here
for him to say, we'll see. Look, they know this team,
they know the culture is humble and hungry. I think
a Rod knows exactly what he has with the squad.
We know they're great a blocking out the noise. I'm
not stressed at all about this team.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and not stressed. I'm with you.
Speaker 10: I think the noise is blocked out, no doubt. So uh,
I don't think that's going to be a factor. Teams
too mature had to many that we've seen them not
have these issues, So I don't think that's gonna be
a problem. Number thirteen, Well, Jojojo Siah Phillips be limited
a Rod to a particular snout cap.
Speaker 6: Snap count.
Speaker 12: Sorry, No, JoJo's ready to roll. He's been practicing for
weeks and he's to go. Yeah, we're super excited to
have him back. JoJo's a starter, man. He's one of
our best players. He was one of our best players
last year too, and he gives us size and speed
and he's super smart, and he's tough, and he's got
fresh legs. Man, he's he's been uh hasn't hasn't played
in a while, but he played so much ball last
year and all through springball through fall camp. I think
I expect him to play well.
Speaker 10: One of our best players, Brett going back to to
last season. He's not gonna have a limited snap count.
He's gonna play. He expects him to play well. Your
thoughts on a Rod's comments there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's really interesting.
Speaker 11: What does this mean for Cody Hagan Cochin Hagan was
playing but wasn't necessarily having an impact.
Speaker 1: Felt we saw Tiger catch a couple passes.
Speaker 11: It did feel like that three spot was kind of
just being rotated between those two guys. So if Jojo
steps in here, is it as though nothing has changed
because there was never really a definitive wide receiver three?
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not.
Speaker 11: Think the other question people would want to ask is, well,
what's the chemistry gonna be like? And Ayrod answered that
as well, saying, look, this is not a guy who
just got healthy last week and now we're throwing him
out there because we need him and we're scrambling this
guy who's been practicing for a long time, and he's
not new to the team. He's been here. He's been
here as long as Bear has been here. So that
as much chemistry really as there possibly could be with
these two, is there? The question I have is, let's
just say, for argument's sake, we're getting the best version.
Speaker 1: Of Jojo Phillips. Let's just say that.
Speaker 11: My next question then is, okay, but what actually is that.
Speaker 1: We know that Jojo is uber talented.
Speaker 11: We know he's too big, too strong, too fast, one
of the most freaky athletic guys BYU has ever had at.
Speaker 1: The wide receiver spot. But it's not a question of
is he came.
Speaker 11: It's not a question of if he it's a question
of will he We know he can, we just haven't
fully seen it put on tape in his time at BYU,
and frankly, I really want to. I'm so bummed we
didn't get more plays like he had against Southern Illinois
last year where he and Jake just took the roof
off the top of the Southern Illinois silukis. I want
to see more of that from Jojo, just more of
him going and showing like hey, I am one of
the most athletic guys. I'm probably the most athletic guy
on the field in any given situation and making those
plays that Texas Tech just can't stop. So the question
with Jojo is not gonna be is he capable of it?
Speaker 4: Is?
Speaker 1: It's will we see it on Saturday?
Speaker 6: Yeah? This is not Bob the Builder. Can we fix it?
Yes we can, as can can? And will he do it? Like?
Speaker 10: That's the big I think you bring up a good
point there. So we're gonna find out a couple of
days away. I'll last couple of things before we go
to break a rod. Have you ever coached in Lubbock
before in your coaching career?
Speaker 5: Have not?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I've heard it's a great place to play. I've
heard their fans are really good. I've supposed to be
super loud, and I think this is gonna be the
loudest place we play this year, and so we've been
preparing for that and I'm excited.
Speaker 10: Has never coached in Lubbock before, Brett. I. Look, I'm
gonna say this. I think that if there was another
team that I wasn't covering another place, Texas Tech seems
to be the place Look, basketball is doing phenomenal, football
is doing phenomenal, and then they.
Speaker 6: Got softball as well.
Speaker 10: Like Lubbock is its own town, its own thing right now,
it's own city. So I mean, look, if it wasn't BYU,
then Lubbock looks like to be a good spot.
Speaker 6: Honestly.
Speaker 10: I think that's there's a lot of hype down there
and it's tough to get to.
Speaker 6: It's out there. It's not West Virginia, but Lubbock Tech
is definitely a little different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one d percent.
Speaker 11: Texas Tech seems to be coming up big in the
Peak twelve and my guess is they are going to
be the new face that runs the place.
Speaker 1: Who is it gonna be? Who's gonna be the new
Texas and Oklahoma?
Speaker 11: I don't know who both of those will be, but
I'm pretty sure one of them is going to be
the Red Raiders because they seemingly have it on lock
in every single sport.
Speaker 10: Joey McGuire, Graham McCaslin, phenomenal. Gonna have to get the
Texas Tech softball coach too, because.
Speaker 6: That person also has it on lock as well.
Speaker 10: That's where the money's at invested in nil the right
way last thing. We'll let you go on this A
Rod Calani mentioned this week the connection of Mike Leach.
Speaker 6: To BYU and Texas Tech.
Speaker 10: Any influences of Leech's offenses in the past, and how
do you view offense now?
Speaker 12: Well, I remember Coach Leach sitting in our meetings when
I was a player. I mean, he was always always
around in spring ball, and then I maintained a relationship
with him, you know, later on when you was at
Washington State and other places in tech tech and I
think a lot of us here have known him for
a long time, and you know, we miss him. And
he took parts of the old BYU offense and turned
that into into his system, and a lot of those
elements still exist in this offense.
Speaker 10: A lot of those elements still exist in this offense.
He remembers sitting in meetings the great Mike Leach. Got
to honor him, one of the greatest college coaches that
will go down in history. Shout out to Mike Leech
and the legacy that he left behind.
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