1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: In home estimate you listening to Cougar Sports on Kovo 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,759 probo or k U D d h D two one 3 00:00:06,759 --> 00:00:12,080 O three nine ninety three ESPN the Fan He is 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,919 Cougar Sports with Ben Kretel at its time for the 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,960 Cougar be getting the dish from the local reporters that 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,600 covered Cougar athletics. 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,679 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Cougar Sports here on one O three, 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,960 nine and ninety eight three esp and the fan Brown 9 00:00:24,039 --> 00:00:26,719 up the three man weaver here, Brett always bringing the 10 00:00:26,719 --> 00:00:30,239 hammer by my side, Big Gram on the data aggregation. 11 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:34,399 And then we're into our interview portion here on Cougar Sports. 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,399 Gonna be down in practice. I forgot to say that. 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,960 I just forget to say that when I'm recapping things. 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,640 But want to let you guys know we are going 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,000 to be down there. We're going to be doing interviews. 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,439 I was able to get caught up with you know, 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,840 Evan Johnson last week they played the interview for you. 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,039 It was fantastic. Schmev got him back as a red 19 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:54,520 shirt sceener. You heard it from him. I guess I 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,200 can get the guy on the line his thoughts as well. 21 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,200 He said there was never a doubt in my mind 22 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,880 that I was leaving by you, you know, And obviously 23 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:03,640 I also asked him, Hey, how did it feel for 24 00:01:03,679 --> 00:01:05,519 the fan base? You know, when you're on vacation with 25 00:01:05,599 --> 00:01:07,879 your brother of no, schmiv. 26 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 3: Don't leave, don't leave. He said, it feels great to 27 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,319 be loved and have people on your side. 28 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: And that's the That's how contagious it is for this 29 00:01:15,359 --> 00:01:19,000 BAA football culture right now, not the BYU basketball culture. 30 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,599 Though unfortunately Hoog's lost to Texas was not the game 31 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,519 that everybody wanted. It did bust my bracket I had 32 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,519 BYU going to the Sweet sixteen beating gonzag I thought 33 00:01:30,519 --> 00:01:32,040 this third iteration of what we saw in the Big 34 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:33,000 twelve would carry over. 35 00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: Obviously not. 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When 53 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,840 you mentioned ESPN the Fan of ben Cridal, you do that, 54 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:24,000 You're gonna get fifty percent off Het gamedemnt health dot com. 55 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,159 Tell him that he sent you without further ado, Let's 56 00:02:26,159 --> 00:02:28,199 get out to the ESPN the Fan Hotline and welcome 57 00:02:28,199 --> 00:02:31,120 in our guest of the program for this segment hour, 58 00:02:31,159 --> 00:02:32,479 we got Darnell Dixon double D. 59 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,319 Speaker 3: How we doing today? 60 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:35,319 Speaker 4: Not too bad. 61 00:02:35,319 --> 00:02:38,039 Speaker 5: I'm not quite ready for spring sports, but I guess 62 00:02:38,039 --> 00:02:39,840 I gotta start getting into them, don't I. 63 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:40,439 Speaker 3: You do? 64 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,159 Speaker 2: And I know about this right because we It's crazy 65 00:02:43,199 --> 00:02:45,080 that I've been doing this for five years but I've 66 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,000 known you guys doing this particular portion of setting things 67 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,159 up for about three Now I know how May gets 68 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:51,599 for you. 69 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: I don't think I see you. I don't think I 70 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,520 see you at all during the month of May. 71 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's there's about a billion the high high school 72 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,520 games going on because they added boys and girls across 73 00:03:03,599 --> 00:03:07,080 recently in boys volleyball. So the spring is just just 74 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,639 a mess with with tons of games. It's fun to 75 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,560 try to cover everything. But and I really I like 76 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,879 volleyball life. That there's volleyball in the spring, that's great. 77 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:19,360 But I wasn't ready for the basketball season end quite yet. 78 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well when did you When did you get back? 79 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: When did you get back? Double d? I got back yesterday. 80 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,439 Did you get back the day after the game Saturday? 81 00:03:28,439 --> 00:03:29,280 When did you fly home? 82 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: No? 83 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,199 Speaker 5: I hung around for a while in Portland, Common Oregonian, 84 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,000 so you know, I kind of appreciate all the stuff 85 00:03:36,039 --> 00:03:39,800 going on there. And plus I had a deal with 86 00:03:39,879 --> 00:03:41,919 my hotel that if I had left, they would have 87 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:42,599 charged me more. 88 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:45,039 Speaker 4: So you know, I'm cheap. Oh, so I decided to 89 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:47,520 stay and went from there. That's just how I am. 90 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,439 This says how I roll. 91 00:03:48,639 --> 00:03:50,919 Speaker 2: Hey, look, look, I'm out of cheapo either of the 92 00:03:50,919 --> 00:03:52,800 same thing. Remember last year, and I don't know if 93 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:56,120 we've told people this story, but byu Is in the 94 00:03:56,159 --> 00:03:59,080 Sweet sixteen thought they would get Alabama. They didn't, and 95 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,800 we hung around, darn know, and uh in Newark, we stayed. 96 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,199 Speaker 3: In there and we did we did. 97 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,639 Speaker 2: We did not because we didn't want to be cheap 98 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:07,960 os lose money on the Airbnb paid more money on 99 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,159 our flight, so we're like, you know, we'll fly back. 100 00:04:10,039 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 5: Here, catch another couple of games, went some movie, you 101 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,400 know that kind of stuff. 102 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: One hundred percent definitely did that. And look, I don't 103 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:18,879 know if I ever got your thoughts. What was it 104 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,319 like for you to see Cooper flag in person? Obviously 105 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,680 we watched AJ this whole year, but let's throw that 106 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,879 discussion in the mix, because that was a discussion last year. 107 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:30,240 But now that AJ has played the entire season, we 108 00:04:30,319 --> 00:04:34,560 know Duke's roster was way different than BYU's. Would you 109 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,600 have taken would you have taken Cooper flag number one 110 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,560 or would you take AJ? 111 00:04:38,759 --> 00:04:40,519 Speaker 3: Now having seen both of them play in person? 112 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,079 Speaker 5: Well, to be honest, watching Cooper Flag play last year 113 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,560 in the Elite eight against Alabama. I was like, yeah, 114 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,199 he's a good player, He's fine. I mean, I didn't 115 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:54,079 think he had a great game. I think, as I recall, 116 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,800 he shot less than fifty percent from the field, Duke 117 00:04:56,879 --> 00:04:58,439 still won because they have a time talent. 118 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. See what he's doing in the NBA now, though, 119 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,800 it's just like crazy because you could see it. 120 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 5: You can see it coming, because if you followed his 121 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,600 high school career a little bit and saw what he 122 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,480 was doing at the AAU level, he was dominating everybody 123 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,360 and so not too surprising. But it's kind of interesting. 124 00:05:16,399 --> 00:05:19,839 You could draw a parallel here between you know, one 125 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,040 specific point in time as compared to taking the long view. 126 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:27,160 If you're looking at BYU basketball, you're like, man, twenty 127 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:28,360 twenty five, twenty six. 128 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 4: Was a complete disaster. Well not necessarily. 129 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,199 Speaker 5: I mean, certainly they were expected to be better than 130 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:37,759 a first round excit, but they weren't. But I think 131 00:05:37,759 --> 00:05:40,839 the future still looks pretty good for this program. I 132 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,639 think they still have a lot of good things in 133 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,120 place in terms of how much they can invest in 134 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,360 anil and the kind of players they can bring in, 135 00:05:48,399 --> 00:05:51,199 and not every year you're gonna have five season ending 136 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,000 injuries and So I think if you take the long 137 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,439 you know, if you take the short of you and say, wow, 138 00:05:55,519 --> 00:05:58,199 they look look terrible against Texas, well, they kind of 139 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:00,959 did for most of the game. Or if you take 140 00:06:00,959 --> 00:06:03,279 a look at the view of you know, twenty three 141 00:06:03,319 --> 00:06:05,839 and twelve is not exactly what you were expecting out 142 00:06:05,879 --> 00:06:08,560 of this team. But if you look at the long 143 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:11,439 view and say, you know, you've seen all the things 144 00:06:11,439 --> 00:06:13,959 that are building up, the kind of momentum that AJA 145 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,560 helped build up, that you would still feel pretty positive 146 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,399 about what BYU has in store for the basketball program. 147 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:27,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, you brought up obviously the resource allocations, things like that. 148 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,120 Before you get into a little bit more of that discussion. 149 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,399 What grade do you give this BYU season? It's tough, 150 00:06:32,519 --> 00:06:34,360 and you can go numbers too, you can go want 151 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,920 to go one out of ten, I mean, not give 152 00:06:35,959 --> 00:06:37,839 a letter grade if that's easier for it, whichever one. 153 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,199 But it's it's tough because I've never seen five season 154 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:43,720 ending injuries. And you saw last night the team that 155 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,480 lost Alabama speaking of them, they got BYU last year 156 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,639 spank Texas Tech because they didn't have their best player. 157 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,680 So obviously not having your best player, having depth plays 158 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,800 a factor. And you see that with other schools. You 159 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,160 see Arizona have depth, them go toe to toe. You 160 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:59,759 see Iowa State even though Joshua Jefferson did go down. 161 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,600 But if you don't have your best player double D 162 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,920 in depth, you don't win. So how do you grade 163 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,160 the season with that? And even the players that they 164 00:07:06,199 --> 00:07:08,800 did pay to come here and play that it didn't 165 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:09,199 work out. 166 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:11,079 Speaker 4: Well. 167 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 5: Here's what I would say, and again, taking more of 168 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,639 a long view of things, I'd give them a bee 169 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:20,879 because I've covered this team for a number of years 170 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,120 when they were in the Mount West Conference and in 171 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,560 the West Coast Conference where they were pretty much irrelevant 172 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,680 the whole season in terms of a national presence just 173 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:33,240 wasn't there like. 174 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,439 Speaker 4: Gonzaga was there. 175 00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 5: Occasionally Byu'd win a decent game, but when it came 176 00:07:38,279 --> 00:07:41,439 down to it from the West Coast Conference specifically, they 177 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,879 had to basically win the West Coast Conference tournament to 178 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:44,240 get in. 179 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: Most years, Yeah, it just hadn't built. 180 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,959 Speaker 5: That kind of resume to where even finishing as a 181 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,120 runner up they would get in. 182 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,279 Speaker 4: I saw that several times, So excuse me. 183 00:07:55,279 --> 00:07:59,439 Speaker 5: I would say that that the fact that BYU was 184 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,800 in the next national prominence, especially in the non conference 185 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,279 schedule when they were playing at Massius Square Garden against 186 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:09,680 Yukon and all those games they played in the. 187 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 4: Conference season as well, big games against Houston and Arizona 188 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:15,879 and Texas Tech. 189 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,279 Speaker 5: I still feel like it was a successful season because 190 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:24,079 they're putting things in place to be at national contender 191 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:26,959 every year. It'd be great if they could do that, 192 00:08:27,079 --> 00:08:29,480 and they're trying to do that. And certainly the injuries 193 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,960 derailed a lot of the depth and the shooting because 194 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,600 those were wolf really big problems with this team late 195 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,879 in the season. But I would still give them a 196 00:08:37,879 --> 00:08:42,000 good grade because they're making progress. This is so much 197 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:45,399 better than having to sit through them playing San Diego 198 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,519 and Pacific in Portland and just teams that are so 199 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,559 irrelevant that if you lose to them, it's a shock 200 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,600 you should beat them. They aren't in that situation now. 201 00:08:57,639 --> 00:08:59,480 They're playing against teams that they have to come out 202 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,320 and play every single night, and we saw them come 203 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,039 out and have some really good wins. They did some 204 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,840 good things this year in conference play. They played Airs 205 00:09:09,879 --> 00:09:11,720 on a tough couple of times. They beat Iowa State 206 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:15,279 at home, they beat Texas Tech at home, So I 207 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:18,240 would still give them a good, solid B for this season. 208 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,279 Speaker 4: The expectations are what they were. 209 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,519 Speaker 5: You know, most BYU fans and the national media expected 210 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,320 them to be a contender and at least be a 211 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,440 Sweet sixteen team, if not most people even talking about 212 00:09:30,519 --> 00:09:33,759 Final four. And if they were fully healthy, who knows 213 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,080 what they might have done. I mean, you can just 214 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,559 take a look at the team that b Way you 215 00:09:38,639 --> 00:09:41,080 lost to in the first round of the tournament. How 216 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,600 did Sean Miller lose fourteen games with Texas? 217 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,159 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's disappointed at they have no idea. 218 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 5: How do you take a team with a seventh floorder 219 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,919 that's as good as that dude, with the kind of shooters, 220 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:55,399 the kind of athleticism, and how do you lose fourteen games? 221 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,759 I just the fact that they can turn it on 222 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,440 in the tournament is pretty amazing to me that it 223 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,720 happens that way and they're. 224 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 4: In this Sweek sixteen. 225 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 5: But anyway, so as far as Bway, he's concerned, Yeah, disappointing. 226 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 4: They didn't finish. 227 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 5: Out what we thought they were capable of. But I 228 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,279 still feel pretty positive about where this program's getting. 229 00:10:13,799 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to be I think a lot of 230 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:19,080 fans because of AJ and the talent and San Diego 231 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,320 got top ten national championship now and maybe even you 232 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,200 know the national media, and I get why, right, But 233 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,600 that's what I said the lead eight. I just think 234 00:10:27,639 --> 00:10:30,679 it's so hard to get to a final four. I 235 00:10:30,759 --> 00:10:33,519 just think it is. I mean, you're seeing Rick Patino, 236 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,559 tom Izzo, Curley, all of these older older coaches still 237 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,159 get there right in the sweet sixteen. It's just it's tough. 238 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,399 It's nothing against Kevin Young, it's nothing against the staff. 239 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,279 They've done it. They've exceeded all expectations in my opinion, 240 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,600 with what has been placed upon them and with how 241 00:10:49,639 --> 00:10:52,360 people view things. But I just think as a whole, 242 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:54,000 it's like, you got guys that have been doing this 243 00:10:54,039 --> 00:10:57,559 for years, double D years, Like Curley's been the head 244 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,320 coach of Ukon for eight years, got two titles. I 245 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,799 just I don't know, man, Like it's it's gonna take 246 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,879 time before BUYU is able to get to that point. 247 00:11:04,919 --> 00:11:08,240 But I think they're on their way because what was 248 00:11:08,279 --> 00:11:10,360 the last time. I wait, then, that's never happened. Double 249 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,720 D three five stars have committed to the program, and 250 00:11:13,759 --> 00:11:16,440 I believe Bruce branch will sign. He hasn't signed yet 251 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,320 from what I've seen, but three five stars in the 252 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,159 last three years. 253 00:11:19,399 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: You have to look at that. 254 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: Then you had the number one Juco, number one euro 255 00:11:22,919 --> 00:11:24,600 player and then the number one high school player. 256 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: That's progress in my opinion. 257 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're doing a good job. 258 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,639 Speaker 5: And you know, it was interesting listening to Kevin Young 259 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,000 after the loss and he was talking about how watching 260 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,039 game video was painful at times as he kind of 261 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,679 watching this team kind of you know, I mean, And 262 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,720 he also said some things during the season. He said 263 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,200 it several times that they were had to dumb down 264 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,000 the defense, and I don't know if that's an indictment 265 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,440 of the coaching scheme or if that's an indictment of 266 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,320 the players they recruited. They have to say dumb down 267 00:11:55,399 --> 00:11:59,440 so much. I mean, it's they just didn't get defensively 268 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,080 what they were and you do. Until they started to 269 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,960 just make it very simple and just switch everything or 270 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,320 just keep a guy in front of you, don't worry 271 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,639 about the peel switch or whatever. 272 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: They were not having to worry about. 273 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,159 Speaker 5: This coaching staff had a real challenge this year as 274 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,080 they took guys who probably wouldn't have played a lot 275 00:12:17,799 --> 00:12:20,320 and started to have to play them, you know, they 276 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:21,000 had to play. 277 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 4: I don't think Alexi coachters was ready. 278 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,519 Speaker 5: He showed several times that he has the ability to 279 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,039 shoot the ball my question, but the other parts of 280 00:12:30,039 --> 00:12:32,000 his game took a while to get going. And Den 281 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,559 boops the same way. I mean, that guy's still so 282 00:12:34,759 --> 00:12:40,519 young in his basketball development. So I think this coaching 283 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,440 staff has a real challenge, as all coaching staffs do, 284 00:12:44,759 --> 00:12:48,279 in building a roster and building it in a way 285 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,159 that makes it successful. You know, I look at Nebraska's roster. 286 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,519 Nebraska's in this week sixteen, it's a team by you 287 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,679 played excuse me in the preseason and lost by one point. 288 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,840 That roster makeup. They brought in some guys from different schools, 289 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,080 but they also have six guys from Nebraska, and the 290 00:13:07,159 --> 00:13:10,519 roster they have several guys from surrounding states like Iowa 291 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,240 and Minnesota, just small town guys they really want to 292 00:13:14,279 --> 00:13:18,399 win and are fundamentally sound, and they mixed it in 293 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,279 with a couple of guys who are really talented, and 294 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:25,279 they're in the sweet sixteen. I don't think that BYU 295 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,360 coaches did a fantastic job of building this roster. I 296 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:32,919 think there's some parts of it that just weren't clicking together. 297 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,919 And maybe you don't know that until you bring them together. 298 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,960 Sometimes I don't know, but you look at last year's 299 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,799 BYU team. That team probably wasn't as talented overall as 300 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,840 this year's team, but they played well together, like the 301 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,879 pieces fit together better. And that's the real challenge when 302 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:54,879 you have transfer portal and you have the nil going on, 303 00:13:56,039 --> 00:13:58,320 You've got to find a way to put together a 304 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,559 roster that works together. Not just the fifty most talented guys. 305 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,279 You can find the guys that fit roles. And that's 306 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,480 the big challenge for every college staff out there because 307 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:10,240 they try to build. 308 00:14:11,039 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta find rolls and obviously you bring up, 309 00:14:14,519 --> 00:14:16,480 you know, some of these guys and it's tough, right 310 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,720 double B because I feel like down the stretch of 311 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,440 the season, you saw a lot of good things from 312 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,240 ALEXI coachch Kevin Jung says that he held Canard Davis 313 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,159 Junior out. I thought Canard should have had the ball 314 00:14:27,159 --> 00:14:28,840 in his hand more at the start of the season 315 00:14:28,879 --> 00:14:31,039 when you saw his taper set. They're not gonna have 316 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,639 him facilitating. I understood why he had Dawson Baker and 317 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:35,799 they pickens. But I'm like, I feel like with Canard 318 00:14:35,799 --> 00:14:37,600 on the floor, that could take some pressure off. And 319 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,240 you know that's not what they anticipated. But you have 320 00:14:40,279 --> 00:14:43,039 to wonder with what Canard it look. Look, I'm just 321 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,480 gonna say it. I know no one wants to say it. 322 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,200 I'll be the bad guy. I don't mind being bad, 323 00:14:46,279 --> 00:14:48,039 cop right. I had to tell me a little girl 324 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,559 when she saw me she didn't want me leaving for 325 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,480 work as she was pulling my leg and not wanting 326 00:14:51,519 --> 00:14:53,879 to go to mom. I don't mind being bad back, Coop. 327 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,720 This roster's gonna look completely different next year. 328 00:14:56,759 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: It just will. 329 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: It's going to it has to, I think because Kevin 330 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:03,480 said the shooting around Rob Right hinting at Rob Right 331 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:05,840 coming back. Now we were told that by him that 332 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:07,279 he's either it's BYU or pro. 333 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,759 Speaker 3: There's no one between. So we will see. 334 00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:11,919 Speaker 2: But if that's the case of double D, I'm looking 335 00:15:11,919 --> 00:15:14,559 at this roster of guys that could come back and 336 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,399 I don't know what I'm being honest, just off the 337 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,240 top of my brain, thinking very fast, I think, Boop, 338 00:15:19,679 --> 00:15:21,919 because you've seen the development even though it took a year, 339 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,559 but you saw what he was able to do. I 340 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,879 look at Canard, how he had to step up down 341 00:15:25,919 --> 00:15:27,039 the stretch, and I look at Alexi. 342 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, are those the only. 343 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,399 Speaker 2: Guys besides obviously Dawson and Nate who want to come 344 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,000 back in KG? You said it for the retchit I'm 345 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,480 not talking about them. Tell my guys that played could 346 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:37,759 those are those the only three guys that are a 347 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:41,039 lot because everybody else pretty much up. Dominique Diomande posted 348 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,440 something as well. It sounds like, you know, he could 349 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,600 maybe be staying. How's this roster gonna look at your 350 00:15:45,639 --> 00:15:47,399 double D because they need shooting. 351 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really hard to say. 352 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,519 Speaker 5: And the thing that Kevin Young mentioned was you know 353 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,519 these guys have options as well. It's not nice thing 354 00:15:55,639 --> 00:15:58,279 is Kevin Young says, either you stay here go Some 355 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,759 of these guys may say, you know what, I want 356 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:03,159 to play, but I want to play for you know, 357 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:05,519 a Division two school, or I want to go someplace 358 00:16:05,559 --> 00:16:08,799 where I can play thirty minutes a game, or you know, 359 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,080 maybe maybe someone else has an offer to go play 360 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,840 at a school near their home and they'd rather play 361 00:16:13,879 --> 00:16:16,279 in front of family and friends. Yeah, all these guys 362 00:16:16,679 --> 00:16:19,039 are gonna have options, and there's gonna be discussions for 363 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,919 sure between the coaching staff and these players, and they'll 364 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:26,240 decide what the best situation is. And Kevin Young already 365 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,879 has talked about hitting the transfer portal and and it's 366 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,559 kind of crazy, but you got to do it. And 367 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,240 it's just, you know, put your nose to the grindstone 368 00:16:35,279 --> 00:16:37,360 and find out what you need and see what you 369 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:37,759 can find. 370 00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:39,559 Speaker 4: I think they're gonna hit. 371 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 5: That portal, excuse me, and then they're going to have 372 00:16:43,559 --> 00:16:45,080 guys that are just going to be like, you know, 373 00:16:45,159 --> 00:16:48,279 I just think my opportunity is like better elsewhere. Yeah, 374 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,480 you look at someone like Brodiy Kaslowski. I'd love for 375 00:16:50,559 --> 00:16:52,919 him to stay. I think he's really talented, but he's 376 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,759 missed two seasons due to injury. Yeah does he does? 377 00:16:56,759 --> 00:16:58,519 He want to change the scenery just so he can 378 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,720 kind of feel like he's not the same place where 379 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,279 he's been heard twice, you know. So there's there's lots 380 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:06,920 of changes I think in store. And as I go 381 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:11,160 through the teams that b YU plays every year, I 382 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,160 kind of take a look at the roster and see who. 383 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 4: Left and who's come back. 384 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 5: I still marvel at teams that put together, you know, 385 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,799 twelve thirteen, fourteen new guys on our roster every year. 386 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 4: I just think that's so hard to sustain any. 387 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 5: Sort of functionality with that when you're having to basically 388 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:34,000 reboot your roster every year. So I'm hoping that there's 389 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:38,039 less movement than more because there are some young players 390 00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:41,880 that I think could be developed and should stay, but 391 00:17:42,039 --> 00:17:44,240 there's other players that maybe it's time for them to 392 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,559 find another opportunity and maybe they want to. So that's 393 00:17:47,599 --> 00:17:49,440 all going to be determined in the next few months, 394 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,359 and it's a huge job for the coaching staff, but 395 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,440 there's definitely changes that are going to be taking place, 396 00:17:55,519 --> 00:17:55,960 no question. 397 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: Luck where we give constructive criticism and or objective here 398 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,000 at ESP and the fan and on Cougar Sports, and 399 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:05,079 some may like it some and I don't care. That's 400 00:18:05,079 --> 00:18:07,079 what our job is. That's all we're paid to do. 401 00:18:07,559 --> 00:18:10,960 The b too experiment yay or nay? Will he be 402 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:12,119 on this roster next year? 403 00:18:13,039 --> 00:18:17,279 Speaker 5: So here's here's the thing about about Ahmed is he's 404 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:19,279 a really young player. I mean, I know he played 405 00:18:19,279 --> 00:18:21,160 two years in the G League, but that's not like 406 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,279 the same as old experience at all he has. He 407 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,839 has a skill for blocking shots. He's not great defensively, 408 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,279 he tends to get in foul trouble. He sets a 409 00:18:32,279 --> 00:18:35,200 lot of the legal screens this year he did and 410 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,680 and he's also not much of an offensive threat. 411 00:18:39,079 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 4: So if you're counting on him to step. 412 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:47,079 Speaker 5: Up and play a role such as what what kPa 413 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,680 Kitty did, I don't think that's reasonable to expect if 414 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,640 you want to keep him in your program and develop 415 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,839 him as a tour of three as a backup. Sure, 416 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,759 he's young, he can get better. I think that's that's 417 00:18:58,759 --> 00:19:02,599 a possibility. But I do think one area of real 418 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,200 concern going into next year is finding some size and 419 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,119 not I mean, Keba's great at six', eight but you 420 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,000 got to get some six, ten six eleven seven foot 421 00:19:12,039 --> 00:19:15,079 guys to come in here and make a difference on the. 422 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,000 Court and they didn't have that this, year And keba 423 00:19:18,039 --> 00:19:19,839 got hurt and he was not the same. Player there 424 00:19:19,839 --> 00:19:23,160 were there were times this last year and early in 425 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,400 this season where after a, Game i'm, like the most 426 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,960 influential player in that, game the guy Impacted, again most 427 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,599 of Was kaba on both ends of the floor as a, 428 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,000 defender as a, rebounder a shop, blocker as a, dunker 429 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:37,960 and we just didn't see. That late in the season 430 00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:42,000 he shared occasionally where he could do, that but the 431 00:19:42,079 --> 00:19:44,880 consistency was no longer there and he's. Gone so now 432 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,759 they have to come up with an idea how do 433 00:19:46,839 --> 00:19:55,079 we fortify our? Interior is Is bulow a? Piece he could, 434 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,799 be but he's not going to be the guy that's 435 00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:58,839 stepping in as a. STARTER i don't think he's just 436 00:19:58,920 --> 00:19:59,720 not that ready. 437 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:04,559 Speaker 4: Yet so if you ask me your, NAY i say. 438 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,559 Speaker 5: Yay but being realistic about what he can possibly do 439 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,720 in this program if he continues to, grow and then 440 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,160 the fact that be where you need to go out 441 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:13,559 and get some. 442 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,319 Speaker 2: Size, yeah you're not, Wrong, ba he definitely needs to 443 00:20:17,319 --> 00:20:17,960 go out and get some. 444 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 3: Size So i'll ask you this. 445 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,519 Speaker 2: QUESTION i know we got to get you out of here, 446 00:20:20,599 --> 00:20:23,400 soon But, fos if he had another, year definitely could 447 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:24,880 have helped this. Team i'm looking at back to the, 448 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,880 basket big or big that stretches the. 449 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,079 Speaker 3: FLOOR i, Said Dallen. 450 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: HALL i know that we've talked off, record you, know 451 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,160 in our little group chats about D hall could have 452 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,559 helped this team And i'm actually as sending all takes On. 453 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,960 Dallin i'm sorry THAT i made that, take you, know 454 00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:40,839 and at the moment we didn't, know and that's why 455 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:43,039 the end of the, season you. Wait But i'm looking 456 00:20:43,039 --> 00:20:45,279 at it down the stretch Of texas With Volca titus 457 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,200 and the words Of Charles, barkley theis The titus because 458 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:48,799 he couldn't say his. 459 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 3: Name still Love Charles. 460 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,599 Speaker 2: Barkley fus And Ali khalifa over the last couple of, 461 00:20:55,599 --> 00:20:58,559 Seasons i'm, like, man those guys could have Helped ali 462 00:20:58,599 --> 00:21:01,759 with his passion ability excuse, Me and they were stretching 463 00:21:01,759 --> 00:21:04,000 the floor shooting the, three and Then fus was a 464 00:21:04,039 --> 00:21:04,799 back to the basket. 465 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 3: BIG i feel like you can go to your. 466 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,839 Speaker 2: Point Because Ali kalif was six ten six eleven And 467 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,480 fus was dominant. Paint they're missing that type of. Player 468 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,920 that's WHAT i, think what you're. 469 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:19,279 Speaker 5: Describing, yeah and the thing About fos specifically and even. 470 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,079 Speaker 4: Who girls we were just talking About. 471 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,519 Speaker 5: Khalifa, yeah they provide a very different look for the 472 00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:31,359 defense when they come on the, floor like when WHEN 473 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,839 byu even last, year there were a bunch of guys 474 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,079 running around shooting the, ball shooting, threes you, know spreading the, 475 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,960 floor and all of a, sudden you bring In fus 476 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,599 and he's a back to the basket automatic score once 477 00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:45,200 he gets. 478 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 4: You on his. BACK i, mean the dude's really really. 479 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,319 Speaker 5: Good or Or, khalifa who is a high post wizard 480 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,599 as a. Passer when you give a defense a different, 481 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,799 look that causes them. Issues And Dawson baker would have 482 00:21:57,799 --> 00:22:00,200 been a similar type player in terms of when he 483 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:01,680 comes into the, game all of a, sudden you got 484 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,400 to defend differently because of how he attacks the, rim 485 00:22:04,839 --> 00:22:07,200 how he shoots. Threes and they didn't have, that so 486 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,400 they didn't have a lot of variety with their. Offense 487 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,119 they had Basically aj with the ball and all four 488 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,440 other guys stand around watching. Him AND i even looked 489 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,279 this UP byu averaged thirteen point three assists per. 490 00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:23,799 Speaker 4: Game that's their lowest total in twenty one. 491 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: Years, WOW i didn't know that. 492 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 5: Twenty one years that they've averaged much better than. That 493 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:33,480 but that was because the kind of offense they ran 494 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,240 was put Bong age's, hand let him, work and that 495 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,160 kind of what they especially late this, season they had 496 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,759 that kind of depend on that BUT i think the 497 00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:42,279 more variety you can put in your, offense the better 498 00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:44,400 off you're going to be because the defense has to 499 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,480 make adjustments and you take advantage of areas where you're. 500 00:22:47,519 --> 00:22:49,960 Strong there were some games Where loose was not as, 501 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,240 effective but there are other games where definitely he was 502 00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:55,440 the guy that changed the game around because he came 503 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,559 in and all of a, sudden your low post guy 504 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,680 is going to the heart of the, basket freeing up other. 505 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,079 Guys so that's something that when they go out and 506 00:23:02,079 --> 00:23:05,119 look in the. Portal are they looking for a stretch for? 507 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,960 It you, know a six to eleven guy that shoot? 508 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,759 Threes are They there's lots of different kinds of guys 509 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:14,279 that you can. Get Isaac davis AT uvu was once 510 00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:18,160 A BYU's. Gradar he had committed to, them and he's 511 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,279 a back to the basketball post. Guy maybe they go 512 00:23:20,319 --> 00:23:22,799 after someone like. THAT i don't, know BUT i think, 513 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:24,680 that LIKE i, said the more variety you get into your, 514 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,160 offense the harder it is whether teams to defend. You 515 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,880 and this YEAR i THINK byu was way too easy to, 516 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,720 defend especially at crunch. 517 00:23:31,799 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: Time, YEAH i, agree you bring up all good valid, 518 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,160 Points so let's finish with. This gotta gotta get you 519 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,039 out of. Here on a football, NOTE i know you 520 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,200 just got, back BUT i know you were still dialed 521 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,440 in paying. Attention you've probably seen the numbers for everything 522 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,279 that you're saying that you heard that you're right online 523 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,519 who that could participate in THE Bau Football Pro day 524 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:54,759 as the best opportunity maybe to get their name called 525 00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:56,240 during THE Nfl. 526 00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 3: Draft there's a bunch of. 527 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: Guys people like What Mary bamba, did people Like Whatna 528 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:02,640 wall was able to put. Up but what are You 529 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,079 Chase roberts improved that forty times. Tremendously what say you DOUBLE? D? 530 00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 5: YEAH i think there's there's plenty of guys that have 531 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,119 that opportunity to to. 532 00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 4: Get a. 533 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 5: Chance and that's all you need is a. Chance you 534 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,960 need to get in the right. Situation you need to 535 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:23,720 you need to find a coach who believes in you 536 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,680 right and AND i think that there's plenty of. Guys you, 537 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,519 Know Jack, KELLY i think teams are gonna love him 538 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:32,839 as a as a. LINEBACKER i think he's got a 539 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,240 really good chance of making some headway and getting in 540 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:40,519 a good. Opportunity And Tanner wall is one of those 541 00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:42,240 guys that you're gonna put in camp and you're going 542 00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:45,480 to realize he's making every plays in the right spot every. 543 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,240 Time and those kind of guys catch the attention of 544 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:51,799 the position coaches and then they fight for him with 545 00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:53,680 the head. Coach when they start looking at you, know 546 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,039 who do we? 547 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,039 Speaker 4: Keep who do we? Cut they're like That Tanner wall. 548 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,640 Dude you watch his. Film every single time he's in 549 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,160 the right he's making, plays he knows where to be 550 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,160 and and he's and he's more athletic. 551 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:06,319 Speaker 5: Than you think he is and all that kind of. 552 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,960 Stuff SO i Think Tanner wall was somebody that's good to. 553 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,839 Pray and you know somebody else that is kind of 554 00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:13,880 popped up on the radar recently is is long Snapper Garrison. 555 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,400 Grimes oh, yeah really, good really good. Grades he might 556 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,480 have an opportunity to stick with. Somebody and and as 557 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,960 we've we've found out over the, years if you get 558 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,000 yourself a good position as a long snapper, man that's 559 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,599 that's like one of the best gigs you can get 560 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,960 because you just get in, there you, know four or 561 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,079 five times a, game do your, job and get paid 562 00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:32,400 a ton of. 563 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: Money don't talk to me about L. J. Martin don't 564 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,720 talk to me about A Chase. Roberts don't talk to 565 00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:41,119 me about A Tanner. Wall give Me Garrison, grimes give, 566 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:46,640 me give me slave deep, cut give me will give 567 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,240 me the specialist C ba you special. Teams it's the 568 00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:53,960 best group on the football. Tailor, look it's all jokes 569 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,319 and being tongue in, cheek But i'm being serious. Though Garrison, 570 00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:59,279 grimes will Far Ryan, rico like all those guys want 571 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:01,039 to be in THE nfl active rosters. 572 00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 3: Playing SO i think you bring up a great point 573 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,480 double d. 574 00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 4: Well Thanks, RON i appreciate that of. 575 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,839 Speaker 2: Course, actually last thing BECAUSE i saw this, earlier uh you, 576 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,319 know On Twitter techniku or receiver FOR byu, football he 577 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:21,720 had Posted Delaney gibb double double work Tonight boyomas basketball and. 578 00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:24,440 ACTION i believe you'll be down to what opportunity To 579 00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:25,920 Lady Koog's Lee kamar? 580 00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: Squad what do they have in action? Tonight double d. 581 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 5: Well it's been a long time SINCE byu has won 582 00:26:31,559 --> 00:26:33,599 multiple games in the, postseason and that's kind of what 583 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,119 they're looking. 584 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 4: At lee's done a great. 585 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,279 Speaker 5: JOB i still feel like this team has a lot 586 00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:42,079 of room to grow in terms of skill and how 587 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,240 they execute their their game, plan but their their. Effort 588 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,839 their efforts really. GOOD i, mean they play, hard they 589 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,920 try to get it, done AND i think they've got 590 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,240 some good pieces in. Place and when you have some 591 00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:56,759 postseason success that that. Helps even if it's in the 592 00:26:56,839 --> 00:27:00,559 W b I t Got missouri tonight out of THE 593 00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:04,279 sec and you know they're they're finished kind of low 594 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:04,759 in the. 595 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: Total that's a really powerful. 596 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 5: Conference but being at home and having the opportunity to 597 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,079 play a couple more games at home before you might 598 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,160 get yourself in the final fourth or the b W 599 00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:16,559 B I. 600 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 4: T it's a great. 601 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 5: Opportunity and they want to keep playing together and that's 602 00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:22,599 that's important that they have that that feeling for each 603 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,960 other and and doing Any gibb can can fill it. 604 00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:26,839 Speaker 4: Up we know that for. 605 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 5: Sure and the other the other players on the team 606 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:32,920 that that are seniors are hoping to get one more 607 00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:34,039 game in the. 608 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,799 Speaker 4: Uniform so it'll be it'll be. 609 00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:38,279 Speaker 5: Good AND i don't know what kind of crowd they'll, 610 00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:40,440 get but more basketball is always. 611 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,559 Speaker 2: Better more basketball is always better in, indeed uh correct? 612 00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:48,319 Me if they win, this do they take off To 613 00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:51,640 wichita for the? 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