Speaker 1: It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think
Speaker 2: we are.
Speaker 1: Get off our show, idiot.
Speaker 2: The kids are playing or tail off. The cultures are
Speaker 2: screwing it up.
Speaker 3: Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.
Speaker 2: They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.
Speaker 3: Who's the kid here?
Speaker 1: Who's the kid here?
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick Coffee?
Speaker 2: All right, let's get the party started. Shall we welcome
Speaker 2: in game day edition Coffee and Company. We are fueled
Speaker 2: by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Again, it
Speaker 2: is Coffee and Company, Nick Coffee with you Austin Montgomery,
Speaker 2: mister travel chief alongside today. Yes, you're trying to get
Speaker 2: used to that. I mean, it shouldn't be something you
Speaker 2: have to get used to. That's who you are, brother.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's stop it. I don't even know what
Speaker 2: it means, but I know that you have a look
Speaker 2: in your eye when I say it that I think
Speaker 2: you like it. I do, so, the head of the table,
Speaker 2: did you orchestrate the prank last week to get this
Speaker 2: nickname in motion. I don't think you did, but like
Speaker 2: it would have been a good idea, but I wish
Speaker 2: I would have thought of it first. It would have worked, yes,
Speaker 2: And we still don't know who who it was. However,
Speaker 2: we didn't get any calls yesterday, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, And I'm I'm wondering if if whoever listened,
Speaker 4: if they found out that we called them out, if
Speaker 4: they keep going for it, or if they just stopped,
Speaker 4: I'd be glad if it's stopped, that they kept going,
Speaker 4: you're kind of pushing their luck.
Speaker 2: It was rather harmless, yes, but again, like you know,
Speaker 2: consider the fact that you're wasting someone's time and more
Speaker 2: than anything. And somebody brought this up to me over
Speaker 2: the weekend. I was at at my nephew's birthday party
Speaker 2: and they were talking about the whole skin you know,
Speaker 2: the pranksters that were going online. I supposed to different
Speaker 2: car dealership in Louisville and putting in the name of
Speaker 2: our hotline to call into the show, saying that we
Speaker 2: were interested in buying cars. And they brought up that
Speaker 2: they used to work as as as someone who worked
Speaker 2: in the business, and they said that when you think
Speaker 2: you've got to lead like it's a it's a high. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you you know that you that you you get a rush,
Speaker 2: and then when you find out it's somebody pranking you
Speaker 2: on a radio show, like, it's got to be demoralizing.
Speaker 2: So I hope that the person who was doing it. One,
Speaker 2: I hope they stop, but also they just realized that,
Speaker 2: you know, like harmless but probably not a nice thing
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 4: They got the they got the prank, the prank got over,
Speaker 4: as i'd say in wrestling, and you had the payoff.
Speaker 2: We talked about it. What more is there to want? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know what they overall were hoping
Speaker 2: to accomplish with it, but I would say they at
Speaker 2: least got something out of it. You got mentioned on air,
Speaker 2: and and honestly had we not. I didn't think about this,
Speaker 2: but it you know, it happened for weeks here and there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was genuinely concerned and until we talked about it,
Speaker 2: like they like that was probably the win for them, yes,
Speaker 2: meaning that like the people were actually calling the hotline,
Speaker 2: they probably wanted them to get on the air or
Speaker 2: something like that. But I think what it came down
Speaker 2: to was that they you know, if they stopped. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna hope it's because they realized that, you know, it's
Speaker 2: not nice to mislead somebody who might think for a
Speaker 2: little while they've got a potential sale that could help
Speaker 2: them pay their mortgage or whatever it is. But also,
Speaker 2: you know, it was working. People were calling our hotline
Speaker 2: thinking we want to buy cars. So anyways, it's the
Speaker 2: Travel Chief and myself Nick Coffee and again we are
Speaker 2: fueled by Thornton's taking you up until six o'clock. We've
Speaker 2: got we've got a game day edition the Cards in
Speaker 2: Action tonight a late one, nine o'clock against Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2: They are nine and a half point favorites. To me,
Speaker 2: it's another business as usual, right, the team that we
Speaker 2: have grown to love over the really over the entire season,
Speaker 2: but especially once they rounded into form and they realized, okay,
Speaker 2: we don't have Cason, we don't have corn Let's, you know,
Speaker 2: let's lock in with what we have to work with
Speaker 2: and let's let's try to get this thing back on track.
Speaker 2: Let's continue the revival. So the team that we've really
Speaker 2: been accustomed to for the vast majority of the season,
Speaker 2: if they show up tonight, I mean I think this
Speaker 2: is going to be a win for Louisville, and I
Speaker 2: hope it's not even close. But as I talked about yesterday,
Speaker 2: I'm going to try my best to not sweat and
Speaker 2: think like, well, man, we beat them by thirteen, should
Speaker 2: have beat them by twenty two. I mean, that would
Speaker 2: be ideal to beat teams as bad as you possibly can,
Speaker 2: because it can help you influence the metrics and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, if Louisville ends up winning and they don't cover,
Speaker 2: let's say they win by nine instead of nine and
Speaker 2: a half, I mean, I'm not going to really put
Speaker 2: a whole lot into it. That's going to be me
Speaker 2: just continuing to think what I think about this team.
Speaker 2: The reality is the real test for them as far
Speaker 2: as just kind of seeing, Okay, we know this team
Speaker 2: has gotten a lot better since they started playing really
Speaker 2: really good teams earlier this season, But once you get
Speaker 2: to the ACC Tournament and you face the likes of
Speaker 2: a Clemson who you already beat by the way, and
Speaker 2: you've gotten better since then, they may be able to
Speaker 2: say the same thing as well. But I would just
Speaker 2: love the opportunity to play Clemson in Duke. I mean,
Speaker 2: you got to probably beat Clemson to get to Duke.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna enjoy the rest of these remaining regular
Speaker 2: season games because again, it's just been a really, really
Speaker 2: fun ride. All right, we are, we're loaded today, but
Speaker 2: I'd be I'd be a fool not to acknowledge how
Speaker 2: beautiful the weather is today here in Kentucky. And I
Speaker 2: thought yesterday was great. Today is even better. And I
Speaker 2: thought maybe it's tomorrow because we were looking. We gave
Speaker 2: you our weather update yesterday, right, I think Austin and
Speaker 2: I pulled up the the the forecast for the rest
Speaker 2: of the week, and for some reason was thinking that
Speaker 2: today was going to be the day where it didn't
Speaker 2: get quite as warm. But no, it's sixty agree, yeah,
Speaker 2: it is beautiful. I mean we are sixty four to
Speaker 2: sixty five is the high today, sixty two is to
Speaker 2: high tomorrow six fifty one, which again that's that's still
Speaker 2: warm compared to what we had last week. My gosh,
Speaker 2: if you would have told me that. And this is
Speaker 2: my fault, just you know, I'm accustomed to throwing on
Speaker 2: a jacket over top of my hoodie when I leave
Speaker 2: it's wintertime still. But once I got to the car.
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, it's hot. So I took my
Speaker 2: jacket off, and by the time I got to the interstate,
Speaker 2: I was still warm to where I'm not a big
Speaker 2: windows down down on the interstate. It's just too loud,
Speaker 2: So I turned my air conditioning on. If you'd have
Speaker 2: told me a week ago that I would have my
Speaker 2: air conditioning on on the way to work, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I to believe you, but man,
Speaker 2: I'm happy that that's what happened today. But I've never
Speaker 2: needed to wash my car worse than I do right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, it just looks disgusting, And you know, I
Speaker 2: oftentimes hear people say and I've thought of it myself.
Speaker 2: Anytime you see a new business being put up somewhere,
Speaker 2: you don't know what it is. You wait until they
Speaker 2: finally put a sign up, or maybe you see something
Speaker 2: posted on social media. I feel like forty percent of
Speaker 2: the time it's a car wash. They're everywhere. I think
Speaker 2: it's some kind of like money washing scheme no pun
Speaker 2: intended to where like it's just where it's where the
Speaker 2: cartel hides money or something. Because I'm thinking, like how
Speaker 2: many how many people are getting their car washed, Like
Speaker 2: how many people? I mean, you're getting your car washed
Speaker 2: every day? Like I'll be honest with you, I only
Speaker 2: go through a car wash if we have something like
Speaker 2: what's happened in the last couple of weeks where it
Speaker 2: gets the salt and the gross snowst just it's disgusting.
Speaker 2: Other than that, I never take my car through a
Speaker 2: car wash because I don't really need to. But when
Speaker 2: you you know today I don't need. You don't have
Speaker 2: to be looking for a car wash to find one either.
Speaker 2: By the way, they're everywhere, like any any area. Preston Highway,
Speaker 2: Barchtown Road, Dixie Highway, Shelbyville Road, I mean, Taylorsville Road,
Speaker 2: all the roads that you're familiar with and you know
Speaker 2: of in the Louisville, Kentucky and area. That you go
Speaker 2: two blocks, you're gonna see probably more than one car wash.
Speaker 2: And everyone that I saw today in my busy day,
Speaker 2: the lines were out to the street. I mean, everybody's
Speaker 2: getting the car washed, so I need to get it done.
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna wait in the line. My wife
Speaker 2: she is, I mean she is. She has a brand
Speaker 2: new car, by the way, and I don't say that,
Speaker 2: so like brag, she went out and bought it, and
Speaker 2: you know, like didn't even tell me, and you know, thankfully,
Speaker 2: she's the one that's in charge of our finances and
Speaker 2: she's the one that knows if we can afford a
Speaker 2: brand new car now.
Speaker 3: But she got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll just go off her work. Yeah, she
Speaker 2: got a brand new car, I guess about six seven
Speaker 2: months ago. And it's very nice, but it's brand new.
Speaker 2: It's the first time she's ever had a brand new car.
Speaker 2: And I probably never will because I don't I don't
Speaker 2: think i'll need one. I will drive whatever and until
Speaker 2: it doesn't run anymore. Like quite literally, the last three
Speaker 2: vehicles that I have purchased that I've had, they were
Speaker 2: cars that, honestly, like I I didn't want to get
Speaker 2: rid of. But she was like, all right, let's get
Speaker 2: you something different, let's get you something new. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: were nicer. I'm tired of when you drive. I have
Speaker 2: to be in this piece of crab. So anyways, she's
Speaker 2: she's all about getting your car washed.
Speaker 4: So so she's the one driving if she goes out
Speaker 4: in her car. If you guys having to go out
Speaker 4: due due to like a family thing.
Speaker 2: You know, she lets me drive. Okay, okay, Now occasionally
Speaker 2: she will drive. In fact, she drives. You know, she drive.
Speaker 2: She wants to drive. And that's one of those things
Speaker 2: where like like I'll offer to drive and she'll say no.
Speaker 2: But then like if you know, but but if we
Speaker 2: are at dinner and you know, your boy put a
Speaker 2: few back and I can't drive, then she's like, well,
Speaker 2: I gotta drive, gotta drive your drunk ass everywhere. She
Speaker 2: doesn't really say that, but you know she does. She
Speaker 2: says it without saying it, if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So anyways, she on Saturday, I mean, it's the weekend
Speaker 2: and she's she waited for an hour and fifteen minutes
Speaker 2: in line to get her car washed. Wow, And I'm
Speaker 2: just thinking, like, it can't be that important dedication. I
Speaker 2: kind of feel like she did it because she like
Speaker 2: it was. It was therapeutic. She left me at home
Speaker 2: with the kids. They're all wound up, Moose just got
Speaker 2: done with this basketball game. Yeah, Maya's wondering where we're
Speaker 2: gonna go next because she needs to be entertained all
Speaker 2: throughout the weekend. And she just is like, all right,
Speaker 2: here you go I'm gonna go to the car wash. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, did you get lost? Did you get
Speaker 2: trapped in there? Yeah? So, and look, I hate i've
Speaker 2: I've I've not done that as far as the car
Speaker 2: wash strategic move. But she's accused me, and there, you know,
Speaker 2: there may be there may be some truth to what
Speaker 2: she's accusing me of. But sometimes when I got to
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom, it didn't really take that long,
Speaker 2: if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, just to
Speaker 2: kind of get just to get some space, just to
Speaker 2: get some space.
Speaker 4: Everyone's sat. Every man is sat at home in the
Speaker 4: car for at least a solid fifteen to twenty minute
Speaker 4: period before they actually got out went back home into
Speaker 4: their woman's And.
Speaker 2: Why is that because you're so it's so right, that's
Speaker 2: so true.
Speaker 4: It's just like a decompressing, like you're really like the
Speaker 4: only time by yourself, because whether it's the situation you're
Speaker 4: at work or you're at school, you're literally on like
Speaker 4: other people's times and you're under other people's surveillance. But
Speaker 4: when you're in your car, in the confines of your car,
Speaker 4: out in front of me, time at you time, you can.
Speaker 2: Do whatever you want. You can.
Speaker 4: You always had the excuse of when someone asks, like
Speaker 4: or if she texted you, hey, where are you? I've
Speaker 4: been waiting for you. Oh I just pulled up. I'm
Speaker 4: sitting in the car for a second. Yeah, walking in, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I just got this walking in.
Speaker 2: So there guy. Thing. There are things that that you
Speaker 2: see all the time now with different memes, and that's
Speaker 2: just the power of the Internet. But I feel like
Speaker 2: that's one of those things that not many people would
Speaker 2: have talked about publicly, but everybody knows exactly. Everybody relates
Speaker 2: and gets to get gets it as far as like
Speaker 2: getting home, and it might take a few minutes before
Speaker 2: you get out of the car, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: it's not something that comes up, but whenever you see
Speaker 2: all that's that's so true. So anyways, I need to
Speaker 2: get I mean today I felt terrible. Uh my my daughter.
Speaker 2: She gets out of the car and when I forgot
Speaker 2: her backpack, which I had to go back home and
Speaker 2: bring it to school. But I get her out of
Speaker 2: her car seat, her booster seat, and and she's she's
Speaker 2: getting you know, she's putting her jacket on and she's moving.
Speaker 2: She she didn't like rub up against the car, but
Speaker 2: her jacket, like she probably didn't even feel it, but
Speaker 2: her jacket was against the the the backseat door. And
Speaker 2: of course it's disgusting because of the you know, the
Speaker 2: salt and all that, and she's just got this big
Speaker 2: old awful stain on her sleep. And I was able
Speaker 2: to hose her down a little bit, not really with
Speaker 2: you know, I was able to kind of get it,
Speaker 2: get it, get it off without you know, having to
Speaker 2: take it to the cleaners. But that told me that
Speaker 2: I needed to get my car washed. And then sure enough,
Speaker 2: I'm driving around today and I'm like, yeah, not gonna
Speaker 2: be able to do it, not gonna be able to Wait.
Speaker 2: Are they open twenty four hours? Some are open late.
Speaker 2: I don't know. If they're open twenty four hours, I
Speaker 2: feel like it wouldn't be worthwhile. And like a lot
Speaker 2: of them are automated, But even when you go to
Speaker 2: the automated ones, yeah, there's somebody there working.
Speaker 4: Usually, Yeah, which are usually there to like help, like
Speaker 4: either at the beginning or the end.
Speaker 2: They're really forceful too, by the way, pull up pull
Speaker 2: up neutral. Yes, the neutral is a real big kicker.
Speaker 2: They want to make sure you're a neutral, and I
Speaker 2: guess they have no way of really knowing it. And
Speaker 2: I'm assuming they're very very direct about that because they've
Speaker 2: had people that didn't do it and then it, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe mess something up. But anyways, before we trust me,
Speaker 2: we've got a lot to get into today. We'll talk
Speaker 2: about tonight's college basketball games. A lot of them. Of course,
Speaker 2: Louisville playing at nine o'clock, but a lot of team.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to make it a bigger
Speaker 2: deal than it needs to be, But like North Carolina
Speaker 2: now seemingly in the tournament according to Lenardi, it just
Speaker 2: if it doesn't make any sense. The more ACC teams
Speaker 2: that get in, I guess the better. But I'm not
Speaker 2: into lying to myself, Like I like to be real
Speaker 2: with myself and not live in a world of delusion.
Speaker 2: Like North Carolina being the last team to get in
Speaker 2: as an eleven seed play and if that's what happens,
Speaker 2: that's not a flex to say, well, hey, the ACC
Speaker 2: got four in, Like it's just not but Hubert Davis,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you guys saw it.
Speaker 2: It came out today, nobody knew it. I don't know
Speaker 2: why it wasn't public news, but he signed a contract
Speaker 2: extension before this season started, which not ideal for Carolina,
Speaker 2: but that's I've never felt like there was any indication
Speaker 2: they were going to make a move, and they're not clearly.
Speaker 2: But there's one thing I want to get you later
Speaker 2: that is really really rare when it comes to Hubert
Speaker 2: Davis as far as coaches that have a job like that.
Speaker 2: That kind of makes me wonder. I don't know, is
Speaker 2: is it is it worth keeping him around. We'll get
Speaker 2: to that later. Also, Rick Pattino, he's at it again,
Speaker 2: you know, Rick just saying things that nobody else would say,
Speaker 2: saying things that if another person did say it, we
Speaker 2: just laugh it off. And Rix has a lot of
Speaker 2: things that you know, never end up actually happening. However,
Speaker 2: he's got the power to say this and it become
Speaker 2: a story. It become something that people kind of dream
Speaker 2: about and think, Okay, maybe this could happen. But Patino,
Speaker 2: along with another legend coach, k Mike Krazuski, they have
Speaker 2: they have put it out there that they want a
Speaker 2: merger between the Big East in the ACC and I've
Speaker 2: never wanted something more in my life. However, the Big ACC,
Speaker 2: the Big ACC, the Big ACT. But but I just
Speaker 2: don't like it's one of those things that like, again,
Speaker 2: it's not it's really nonsense if you think about it.
Speaker 2: The ACC has a football component to their conference, and
Speaker 2: football matters more than anything when it comes to how
Speaker 2: you make money. And I just don't see why the
Speaker 2: ACC would have any benefit. Because again, if they can
Speaker 2: maybe get some more money from their network because of basketball,
Speaker 2: anything helps. But I just you know, it's just these
Speaker 2: guys saying it, Coach k and Patino, and that's probably
Speaker 2: where it'll end. But it did at least get me
Speaker 2: thinking about what it would look like. And I would
Speaker 2: love it because I still love the Big East as
Speaker 2: a basketball conference, although they're not getting near the heat
Speaker 2: that the ACC is getting as far as being down
Speaker 2: I mean right now currently as it stands in Lenardi's
Speaker 2: most recent bracketology update, four is the amount both they're
Speaker 2: getting in. And by the way, it's kind of similar
Speaker 2: when it comes to seating. You've got Duke propping up
Speaker 2: the ACC Rick and Saint John's propping up the Big East.
Speaker 2: But Saint John's is not near the seed line that
Speaker 2: Duke is. And although Louisville's got some bubble type teams.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess the Big East doesn't, but they
Speaker 2: also don't have many like you've got Yukon looking at
Speaker 2: an eight or a nine. Marquette was rolling now they're
Speaker 2: looking at a six. So anyways, that's besides the point.
Speaker 2: But I would love it. I just don't. I just
Speaker 2: don't think it would ever actually happen because the Big
Speaker 2: East they would be wise to do this because they
Speaker 2: have nothing to really lose. They would only get more viewership.
Speaker 2: But the Big East Commissioner Val Ackerman has has made
Speaker 2: it clear that you know, she's open to it, but
Speaker 2: unraveling the media rites contracts between these two leagues because
Speaker 2: obviously ESPN is in bed with the ACC, that's the
Speaker 2: ACC network underneath the ESPN umbrella. Well, the Big East
Speaker 2: they've got Fox, NBC and T and T, so in
Speaker 2: order for them to maximize revenue, they didn't get a big,
Speaker 2: big partner to just drop a boatload of money. They
Speaker 2: mixed it around and you know, that's the best they
Speaker 2: can do financially. So one thing that nobody talks about,
Speaker 2: and I'm not really sure why anybody would just bring
Speaker 2: it up in conversation. But it matters, and if you
Speaker 2: think about it, I think you would agree that it matters.
Speaker 2: The Big East not having any representation in any way
Speaker 2: on ESPN, the four letter network, that hurts them. Now.
Speaker 2: I can't give you a specific like number or there's
Speaker 2: no data, but relevance matters out of sight, out of mind,
Speaker 2: right And look, if Yukon's rolling through college basketball, they're
Speaker 2: going to get mentioned, but like not the way A,
Speaker 2: not the way that A put it this way, Virginia,
Speaker 2: they're not the brand in college basketball that that Yukon is.
Speaker 2: I mean, Yukon, it's kind of crazy. In my lifetime, Yukon,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure has been the most successful program and
Speaker 2: it's not even close.
Speaker 5: Tough.
Speaker 2: They've been kind of weird, meaning that they they'll either
Speaker 2: win it all or like not get in. That's kind
Speaker 2: of how they've they've been at times. But like when
Speaker 2: it comes to what matters, titles, final fours, like they've
Speaker 2: they've been great. So you know, Yukon is a bigger
Speaker 2: brand in college hoops than Virginia. However, I feel like
Speaker 2: if Virginia was doing what Yukon did the last two seasons,
Speaker 2: Virginia would get way more attention. And I think part
Speaker 2: of that is because they are on ESPN's channels. I
Speaker 2: don't even think it's like a bias thing, but you know,
Speaker 2: out of sight, out of mind, Like Fox does a
Speaker 2: great job. I think Fox college basketball coverage is phenomenal,
Speaker 2: but it just doesn't get the same like it just
Speaker 2: doesn't get the same viewership like it. Just as much
Speaker 2: as I think ESPN could be better, they're way too woke.
Speaker 2: Disney needs to cut ties and sell them to somebody
Speaker 2: else that just prioritize, like ESPN is just a component
Speaker 2: of the Disney world, no pun intended. But if it
Speaker 2: was just its own thing, that all it, you know,
Speaker 2: you didn't have to be underneath the corporate umbrella of Disney,
Speaker 2: like I think it could be even better. So anyways,
Speaker 2: I think the Big East would be wise to take
Speaker 2: advantage of anything that could get them to where they
Speaker 2: have some games on ESPN. I mean, there's a coach
Speaker 2: that used to coach here in Louisville, they used to
Speaker 2: coach in the Big East that I talked to about it,
Speaker 2: and you know, without I mean I don't remember any
Speaker 2: exact quotes, but like he would he would be pretty honest, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that absolutely matters. Look, you know, whenever Chris Mack was
Speaker 2: coaching here and he beat Tom Izzo and in like
Speaker 2: his fifth career game in the Big East, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: the ACC Big Ten Challenge. It's on ESPN Prime Time
Speaker 2: Packed House his first season of course, like he's getting
Speaker 2: interviewed by Alison Williams. I mean it's it. You know,
Speaker 2: they're leading into Sports Center probably after the game, Like,
Speaker 2: you don't get that in the Big East, and that
Speaker 2: has value. It's not gonna kill you, didn't hold you back,
Speaker 2: but man, your brand presence matters. And Fox and T
Speaker 2: and T they just don't provide what ESPN can, especially
Speaker 2: when it comes to college sports. So like if you're
Speaker 2: Sean Miller at Xavier, good job, you've already won there.
Speaker 2: They brought you back. I'm sure you're paid well. But
Speaker 2: like if Pittsburgh, where he played, by the way, if
Speaker 2: they opened up and fired Jeff Kple, I don't think
Speaker 2: he leaves Avery for Pittsburgh, But if he did, I
Speaker 2: believe that affiliation with the ACC and with that now
Speaker 2: and I look, I know the ACC is where it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a great league right now, in basketball,
Speaker 2: and they certainly need to get some new blood in
Speaker 2: there as far as coaches and get the thing turned around.
Speaker 2: But I would love it. I just don't want to
Speaker 2: talk about it enough to where I start to think like,
Speaker 2: maybe there's a chance that happens, because again, all this
Speaker 2: is is Rick Patino and Coach K just throwing stuff
Speaker 2: out there, Like remember when didn't didn't Coach K, he's
Speaker 2: the guy who threw out there that we should put
Speaker 2: every single team in the tournament. You remember that nonsense
Speaker 2: and it just yeah, and then of course you know
Speaker 2: just went away. You remember that, right, Yes, I remember
Speaker 2: back in the in the in I don't know, this
Speaker 2: is probably around like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, Rick Patino,
Speaker 2: I mean, he spoke at a press conference and said
Speaker 2: that Jay Billis should be the missioner of college basketball,
Speaker 2: just like David stern is the commissioner of the NBA,
Speaker 2: just like Roger Goodell's the commissioner of the NFL. And
Speaker 2: you know, Ri's got away with words, man, he can
Speaker 2: be real convincing. He just does his thing. As you
Speaker 2: said the other day Austin RP Theater. It's right. So
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here thinking like, you know what, that makes
Speaker 2: total sense. Ri's right, and I started thinking, like, when
Speaker 2: are they gonna hire him? And it was just Rick
Speaker 2: saying stuff. Rick says, So that's probably what this whole
Speaker 2: thing is. But I got a little excited just thinking
Speaker 2: about it. And you know, we'll see if there's any development.
Speaker 2: But I just don't know if the ACC has anything
Speaker 2: to gain by doing it. If they did have anything
Speaker 2: to gain, it would probably be again, maybe just being
Speaker 2: able to get to squeeze some more revenue because you
Speaker 2: would have better basketball matchups. But man, even the best
Speaker 2: basketball matchups in the regular season just don't mean a
Speaker 2: whole lot compared to like football. Also, Pat forty, he's
Speaker 2: got a story that we've certainly got a break down
Speaker 2: as expected, this was kind of rumored for a while,
Speaker 2: but Forty has the article over at Sports Illustrated the
Speaker 2: college Game the sports betting scandal with John tay Porter.
Speaker 2: It's widespread and it did in fact get into college basketball.
Speaker 2: We can certainly talk about that. There's another near plane
Speaker 2: crash as two Southwest plains barely missed each other. What
Speaker 2: the hell's going on? You thought I was joking last week? No,
Speaker 2: this week, this year for vacation. We're a greyhound family.
Speaker 2: Tell me where the closest greyhound station is, right, and
Speaker 2: then do we want to get into recruiting? Do we
Speaker 2: want to Austin? Because Nata Men is one of the
Speaker 2: best players in the country, And like I just I'm
Speaker 2: not as energized with a high school recruiting as much
Speaker 2: as I used to be, just because one I'm grown
Speaker 2: up now, but also like it's not as important. But
Speaker 2: it sounds like Louis has got a real chance at
Speaker 2: one of the best players in the country. And it
Speaker 2: gets me excited. So all right, quick break, We'll take
Speaker 2: a time out, keep this thing rolling along. It's coffee
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Speaker 2: to one seventy nine hundred A wild stat that I
Speaker 2: feel like it's a first as far as this happening,
Speaker 2: but I could be wrong. Maybe it's happened before. But
Speaker 2: we are very late into the season, really about four
Speaker 2: games left for most teams out there, and yeah, here
Speaker 2: we go. ESPN Stats and Info actually tells me when
Speaker 2: the last time this happened. This is the fourth time
Speaker 2: in the last fifty five years that half of the
Speaker 2: men's college basketball preseeedson top ten is unranked. So Kansas
Speaker 2: number one outside the top twenty five. That's for the
Speaker 2: first time in eighty A p poles. So the teams
Speaker 2: that were top ten that are now on the outside
Speaker 2: looking in Kansas, Yukon, Zaga, Baylor, and North Carolina and
Speaker 2: all those teams are still in the tournament other than
Speaker 2: Carolina at least, I you know, I guess the tournament
Speaker 2: started today. We'll never know if they'd be in or not.
Speaker 2: All we can do is guests or reference the guys
Speaker 2: who are so called experts at predicting the tournament, like
Speaker 2: Joelnardi and Jerry Palm and the others out there. So
Speaker 2: I guess they're borderline and just looking at this, this
Speaker 2: list of coaches, I mean Bill Self, I mean I
Speaker 2: have no worries about Bill self being a great coach.
Speaker 2: I mean he's proven that. I just think he's and
Speaker 2: it's on him. I'm not trying to make excuses for him.
Speaker 2: He just hasn't been able to get this group that
Speaker 2: he has that is super talented to work well together.
Speaker 2: Danny Hurley, I mean, the guy's got two national titles
Speaker 2: in two consecutive years, and I still wouldn't want to
Speaker 2: see him in March. There are some that are saying,
Speaker 2: you know, well, if he didn't have Donovan is Donovan
Speaker 2: Klingen who is the big man for him last year
Speaker 2: and he's now in the NBA right he's with the Blaze.
Speaker 2: So some are saying like he's the reason and it's
Speaker 2: not nothing to do with Hurley, which I don't believe
Speaker 2: that at all. But until like he's bad as a coach,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna still think that's he's in great shape. But
Speaker 2: man Mark Few, it's it's not it's not fair to
Speaker 2: say that like they've fallen off a cliff, because I
Speaker 2: don't know if that'll ever happen at Gonzaga one, because
Speaker 2: they he's a great coach, but also because they play
Speaker 2: in the Western whatever. But right now, I mean they
Speaker 2: are clearly the second best team in their own conference
Speaker 2: because Saint Mary's roling, Gonzaga's twenty one and eight and
Speaker 2: they are twelve and four in their league. And I think,
Speaker 2: I mean, when it comes to like quad one wins,
Speaker 2: I mean, like Gonzaga is a team that will get
Speaker 2: in safely. I mean they're eight nine, so maybe they
Speaker 2: are bubbleish, but I think the way the bubble looks
Speaker 2: right now, I have a hard time thinking that, you
Speaker 2: know that that they they won't find their way in.
Speaker 2: But my point is this, if you were ever gonna
Speaker 2: get Mark Few to leave Gonzaga, wouldn't now be the time.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's kind of done all that he's gonna do.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 2: There was a window where he was flirting with a
Speaker 2: national championship where he had two great teams. In fact,
Speaker 2: he had more than two great teams, but in the
Speaker 2: end he ended up, you know, falling short. He did
Speaker 2: make it to the championship game, lost to Baylor, and
Speaker 2: then I believe there was another year they made the
Speaker 2: final four, but I could be wrong. And then he
Speaker 2: had other teams that were phenomenal and then they just
Speaker 2: fell short like Arkansas and Musselman knocked him out the
Speaker 2: year they were loaded.
Speaker 4: So you mentioned the North Carolina too, one, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: played North Carolina.
Speaker 2: This year in the tournament. No, No, they played Gonzaga,
Speaker 2: played in the title game Baylor, and then they played
Speaker 2: UCLA in the final four and Jalen Suggs hit that
Speaker 2: game winner a half quarter. Okay, So I'm bringing up
Speaker 2: Gonzaga because they they've earned the benefit of the debt.
Speaker 2: I think when it comes to like do they belong
Speaker 2: in the tournament because despite always playing in I guess
Speaker 2: there's a couple of different ways to look at it.
Speaker 2: Despite always playing in a week league, they still get
Speaker 2: to the tournament. And I believe after last year they
Speaker 2: have the longest They have the longest standing second weekend
Speaker 2: streak in college basketball, and I don't even think it's close. Now.
Speaker 2: Some would say, well, it's because they are good, but
Speaker 2: not good enough to get the seed that they get,
Speaker 2: so they play bum teams in round one in round two,
Speaker 2: and that's how they end up always making it to
Speaker 2: the second weekend. So again, it just depends on how
Speaker 2: you look at it. But yeah, the last time they
Speaker 2: didn't make it to at least the second weekend of
Speaker 2: the tournament was in twenty fourteen, a long time ago,
Speaker 2: and they went to the Elite eight. Let's see. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they were the national runner up. So he only actually
Speaker 2: has one final four. So my point is this, if
Speaker 2: it was gonna happen for him, I kind of feel
Speaker 2: like it already would. And he's been there since nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety nine, so he may just be there for life.
Speaker 2: But I kind of feel like, if you were gonna
Speaker 2: get like Virginia should pick up the phone and at
Speaker 2: least see what he would say, because I think I
Speaker 2: could see him fitting at Virginia. What else can he
Speaker 2: do with Gonzaga? And by the way, in the New World,
Speaker 2: they're not going to be able to compete. They don't
Speaker 2: have it. They don't have any booster money at all.
Speaker 2: Like Gonzaga, to me, is is the best example of
Speaker 2: a power program because they did become that. I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe you wouldn't say they're a power program. There's certainly
Speaker 2: not a blue blood, but for the last ten years
Speaker 2: they've been as consistently good as most. And again I
Speaker 2: guess it depends on how you look at it, right,
Speaker 2: is it? Because they play in a league that's terrible
Speaker 2: and they just take advantage of it. But I've seen
Speaker 2: enough of Gonzaga to know that they are really good.
Speaker 2: And I just feel like if your mark few like
Speaker 2: now would be the time to go, if you're ever
Speaker 2: going to go. And then Scott Drew Baylor, he turned
Speaker 2: down Kentucky, turned down Louisville, and he's underachieved. I kind
Speaker 2: of feel like with the building him a new arena
Speaker 2: and turning down Kentucky, he'll never leave, but maybe he
Speaker 2: has regrets and then he'll sell. Okay of Indiana calls
Speaker 2: I'm out of here. And then Hubert Davis. I mean
Speaker 2: we just talked about this earlier. He signed a contract
Speaker 2: extension before the season started, and you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if that was necessary, to be honest with you, Like,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of guys who get new deals and
Speaker 2: extensions and it's absolutely unnecessary. But agents are able to
Speaker 2: leverage really what I don't I don't know what they leverage,
Speaker 2: but they scare the athletic director that if you don't
Speaker 2: give this guy a new contract and lock him down
Speaker 2: long term with a ton of money, then he's gonna leave.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just gotta call the bluff. In fact, Joshua
Speaker 2: did that was Scott Saderfield, and it worked out. So
Speaker 2: Hubert Davis went. He was he was the runner up
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. Should have won that championship, by
Speaker 2: the way, would have changed a lot for him. And
Speaker 2: then the next year they didn't make the tournament, declined
Speaker 2: the NIT. Last year they made it to the sweet sixteen,
Speaker 2: and somehow that got him a new contract. This year
Speaker 2: they're a bubble team. They very much underachieved, and maybe
Speaker 2: they get in and get hot. But like if I'm
Speaker 2: a Carolina fan, like I would be rooting for Carolina
Speaker 2: to obviously to and you want him to maybe get
Speaker 2: hot and go on a run, But like, do you
Speaker 2: believe that he's he's the guy. He's not terrible, although
Speaker 2: I don't know, when you're Carolina and you're flirting with
Speaker 2: the tournament, you might not make it. And you've already
Speaker 2: missed it one year in his four years. I mean again,
Speaker 2: we're talking about North Carolina. But let me tell you
Speaker 2: what makes Hubert Davis very rare as far as a
Speaker 2: guy that is coaching at one of the best jobs
Speaker 2: in the sport. There's three jobs I think that are
Speaker 2: the best in the college basketball world, and I don't
Speaker 2: think there's Honestly, I don't think there's a close fourth,
Speaker 2: in no particular order, because I think you can honestly
Speaker 2: make a case that each of these are the best job.
Speaker 2: But I think Kentucky's the best job. Pays me to say,
Speaker 2: but it's the truth. Carolina and Kansas, like, those are
Speaker 2: the best three jobs, and I don't think there's really
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, I don't think there's a close fourth.
Speaker 2: So what makes him rare is not just the fact
Speaker 2: that you know, he's a former player that is coaching
Speaker 2: at one of these great jobs, but he's cheap Hubert
Speaker 2: Davis when he I mean, like, this is what's crazy.
Speaker 2: His previous contract that he signed in twenty twenty two
Speaker 2: to take over the program, and that contract ran through
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. He made four hundred thousand dollars in
Speaker 2: base pay to coach North Carolina. I mean, they always
Speaker 2: want to keep it in the family at Carolina. But man,
Speaker 2: that that's a reason as to why you might consider,
Speaker 2: all right, this guy's not terrible, but maybe we just
Speaker 2: use all the money to go get players now, because
Speaker 2: that's what came out today, is that he's got to
Speaker 2: that he signed a new contract and his base salary
Speaker 2: is going to be one point is one point two
Speaker 2: five million, and honestly, like that's still really cheap to
Speaker 2: coach North Carolina. Let's be real, and he didn't need
Speaker 2: the money. Guy's an NBA legend. I mean not maybe
Speaker 2: that's a stretch, but like, he's one of the best
Speaker 2: shooters I watched as a kid in the NBA. He
Speaker 2: played in the NBA for over ten years and you know,
Speaker 2: was a good player. He wasn't a legend. That was
Speaker 2: a stretch, but he made a lot of money in
Speaker 2: the NBA, made a lot of money as an assistant,
Speaker 2: probably made a lot of money at ESPN when he
Speaker 2: worked there. So like, he's not doing this for money,
Speaker 2: and he knows that if he succeeds at Carolina, he'll
Speaker 2: be taken care of. So they're hiring a GM, and
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked at that GM's making similar money
Speaker 2: as Hubert Davis. Maybe I'm wrong there, but anyways, I
Speaker 2: think their play here is that, look, we got this
Speaker 2: guy pretty cheap. He's already taken us to a championship game.
Speaker 2: Hasn't really done a lot since then to make us
Speaker 2: feel like he's the guy for Carolina. But he's one
Speaker 2: of our own, he'll never leave us, and he's cheap.
Speaker 2: We can use all other moneies to go get players,
Speaker 2: because I think Carolina in Kentucky have the same mindset,
Speaker 2: or at least did. Like Kentucky has an al resources
Speaker 2: they're going to pay. But Mark Pope's been pretty public
Speaker 2: that he's going to really emphasize, Look, you're gonna be
Speaker 2: lucky to play here. You're gonna be taken care of financially.
Speaker 2: But like, it can't just be about the money, because
Speaker 2: it's a privilege to play Kentucky and there aren't many programs,
Speaker 2: if anything, can really sell because money matters. But I
Speaker 2: think Carolina tried to do that and it's not working.
Speaker 2: So now to give Davis another another I mean I
Speaker 2: was gonna say another year, but he's under contract for
Speaker 2: a while. They're gonna get the GM to where they got.
Speaker 2: They're gonna put all the money they're not paying their
Speaker 2: basketball coach that they probably could be paying and go
Speaker 2: buy players and see if it works. And it might.
Speaker 2: And also with Hubert making such a little amount of
Speaker 2: money compared to other jobs like that, I'm curious what
Speaker 2: the buyout is because that makes you know, you can
Speaker 2: give him that new contract making you know, one point
Speaker 2: whatever million a year, but his with that, with that
Speaker 2: amount of money, I would imagine the buyout would not
Speaker 2: be crazy. And that's really what it all comes down
Speaker 2: to the contracts. When it comes to coaches, it's all
Speaker 2: about the buyout. Like if the buyouts not crazy, then
Speaker 2: you know whatever, Yeah, we'll keep paying you that if
Speaker 2: you keep winning. If not, we'll cut ties and eat
Speaker 2: the eat the buyout is. If it's not you know,
Speaker 2: something that's going to be detrimental to us, like Louisville
Speaker 2: right now financially is hurting because of these buyouts they
Speaker 2: gave coaches. So anyways, let's go to the phone line
Speaker 2: before we get to our next break. Five O two
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Speaker 2: it started with Jerry. Jerry, you're on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: What's happening many Nick?
Speaker 5: I read the forty article. I really don't want to
Speaker 5: talk a whole lot about it because I'm not a
Speaker 5: big gambling guy. But it's a hell of an article. Man,
Speaker 5: it really opened your eyes. Sure talking about coaches. Uh,
Speaker 5: the rumors about Jay Lucas going to Miami makes me
Speaker 5: sick as an ACC guy. And and yeah, I know
Speaker 5: it'll make it tougher on us if they have a
Speaker 5: great coach at Virginia at Miami. But but the conference
Speaker 5: needs it, right, no doubt, And and and and to
Speaker 5: hire j Lucas as a Kenny Payne move in my opinion,
Speaker 5: because here's the deal. I've looked at the SEC. You know,
Speaker 5: the SEC is hot right now. All sixteen of their
Speaker 5: coaches had previous head coaching experience at the Division IE level,
Speaker 5: all of them. Okay, so they went and robbed and
Speaker 5: pillaged other programs to make their conference better, and that
Speaker 5: in the ACC to do that, they can't do anything
Speaker 5: but that. To hire J Lucas huge mistake in my opinion.
Speaker 5: Miami should get Will Wade. Okay, your little comment about
Speaker 5: Mark Pope, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't aim to
Speaker 5: talk about him. But it's easy to say I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna pay him as much blah blah blah. But but
Speaker 5: here's the deal. Say he doesn't make the Sweet sixteen
Speaker 5: in year two or three, and he's getting flamed out
Speaker 5: in the first couple of games. He'll change his team
Speaker 5: real quick. That won't stick. You know, it's all about
Speaker 5: the money. Come on, Who were kidding here?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: Okay? One more thing you talking about Sean Miller five
Speaker 5: years ago and and I'm dating myself again, but years
Speaker 5: ago with the Derby Classic, they just have a thing
Speaker 5: on Saturday mornings and they would do two on two
Speaker 5: contests with the players dunking contest. I don't even think
Speaker 5: they were doing three point shooting contest back then, but
Speaker 5: I once watched a two on two contest that was
Speaker 5: like ten. They went to ten or twelve by four,
Speaker 5: went to seventy six to seventy two. Had had a
Speaker 5: guy from UCLA named Brad Holland also had a guy
Speaker 5: from Alabama named Reginald King that was a hell of
Speaker 5: a player. Joe Dean nicknamed him the Mule, okay.
Speaker 3: And he was.
Speaker 5: He was a hell of a player. And that was
Speaker 5: that was a But anyway, one Saturday morning I went
Speaker 5: out there and there was probably you know, six thousand
Speaker 5: people there and and they brought this little kid out
Speaker 5: to center court. To do this dribbling exhibition, and my
Speaker 5: dad usually went with me. He couldn't go this Saturday.
Speaker 5: And when I got home, I told him, I said,
Speaker 5: I can't. I hate it that you missed it, because
Speaker 5: I said, I watched the most incredible dribbling exhibition I've
Speaker 5: ever witnessed. And I had seen Joe rivals of junior
Speaker 5: pros and and all these other things that they had
Speaker 5: around town. But anyway, that guy, that kid was Sean Miller. Okay,
Speaker 5: and Sean Miller did that dribbling exhibition. He was probably
Speaker 5: six or eight years old. Unbelievable. But did you know
Speaker 5: or have you ever seen the clip on you of
Speaker 5: him on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson.
Speaker 2: No, I knew of him as a player. I had
Speaker 2: no clue he was this prodigy as a kid. That was,
Speaker 2: you know, this wiz kid. I'm looking at it now,
Speaker 2: actually not the clip you're talking about. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: knew he came from a basketball family and obviously was
Speaker 2: a good player himself.
Speaker 5: Yes, but that was incredible. I mean, the most unbelievable
Speaker 5: dribbling exhibition ever I ever witnessed. And I've seen a
Speaker 5: lot of basketball. Okay, one more thing. I got a
Speaker 5: quick question for you. Uh, buddy of mine was talking today.
Speaker 5: I'm curious about these guys and I don't know if
Speaker 5: you will have a clue to answer this question. Take
Speaker 5: a guy like Tom Crean, what's Tom Crean? Do you think?
Speaker 5: What do you think he makes at ESPN and some
Speaker 5: of those other talking heads. Do you have any any
Speaker 5: idea the range of pay those guys make.
Speaker 2: I would say this. I wouldn't be good at guessing
Speaker 2: the actual number, but I would be willing to bet
Speaker 2: that it's less than most people would believe. You know,
Speaker 2: those are contract positions. Put it this way. With Crean specifically,
Speaker 2: he may he is such a little investment to ESPN
Speaker 2: that they allow him to work on other networks. He
Speaker 2: called a game the other night with John Fanta. I
Speaker 2: believe on T and T or might have been Peacock.
Speaker 2: So you know, these guys are really like Freeland. You know,
Speaker 2: unless you're one of the big name guys that works
Speaker 2: free ESPN, that's you know, that's calling the games and whatnot.
Speaker 2: You're you know, you're you're making a living. It's a
Speaker 2: dream job. But I think a lot of people see
Speaker 2: guys on TV or even on the radio for the
Speaker 2: national networks, and think, man, they must be making big bucks.
Speaker 2: And again they're probably not going without, but they probably
Speaker 2: don't make the same amount of And in fact, I
Speaker 2: would be willing to bet Tom Crean he probably gets
Speaker 2: paid per gig, if that makes sense, not necessarily just
Speaker 2: a base pay, which I'm sure the per gig is
Speaker 2: is a decent is a decent amount of money, but
Speaker 2: you know, probably no insurance that kind of stuff, so uh,
Speaker 2: it's worthwhile. But I would just tell you that it's
Speaker 2: probably less money than a lot of people would expect.
Speaker 5: I got you all. Hey, big game to night, Yes,
Speaker 5: game's a big game.
Speaker 2: Go that's right, Thanks Jerry, appreciate you, my man. All right,
Speaker 2: let's get to a quick break. We'll come back here
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that next, and a lot of other
Speaker 2: things as we won't as we move along here. It's
Speaker 2: coffee and company feel. But Thornton's on Sports Talk seven
Speaker 2: ninety