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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think

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<v Speaker 2>we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Get off our show, idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids are playing or tail off. The cultures are

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<v Speaker 2>screwing it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 2>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick Coffee?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get the party started. Shall we welcome

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<v Speaker 2>in game day edition Coffee and Company. We are fueled

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<v Speaker 2>by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Again, it

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<v Speaker 2>is Coffee and Company, Nick Coffee with you Austin Montgomery,

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<v Speaker 2>mister travel chief alongside today. Yes, you're trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>used to that. I mean, it shouldn't be something you

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<v Speaker 2>have to get used to. That's who you are, brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's stop it. I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 2>it means, but I know that you have a look

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<v Speaker 2>in your eye when I say it that I think

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<v Speaker 2>you like it. I do, so, the head of the table,

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<v Speaker 2>did you orchestrate the prank last week to get this

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<v Speaker 2>nickname in motion. I don't think you did, but like

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<v Speaker 2>it would have been a good idea, but I wish

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<v Speaker 2>I would have thought of it first. It would have worked, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And we still don't know who who it was. However,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't get any calls yesterday, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, no, And I'm I'm wondering if if whoever listened,

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<v Speaker 4>if they found out that we called them out, if

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<v Speaker 4>they keep going for it, or if they just stopped,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd be glad if it's stopped, that they kept going,

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<v Speaker 4>you're kind of pushing their luck.

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<v Speaker 2>It was rather harmless, yes, but again, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>consider the fact that you're wasting someone's time and more

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<v Speaker 2>than anything. And somebody brought this up to me over

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend. I was at at my nephew's birthday party

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<v Speaker 2>and they were talking about the whole skin you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the pranksters that were going online. I supposed to different

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<v Speaker 2>car dealership in Louisville and putting in the name of

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<v Speaker 2>our hotline to call into the show, saying that we

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<v Speaker 2>were interested in buying cars. And they brought up that

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<v Speaker 2>they used to work as as as someone who worked

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<v Speaker 2>in the business, and they said that when you think

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to lead like it's a it's a high. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you you know that you that you you get a rush,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when you find out it's somebody pranking you

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<v Speaker 2>on a radio show, like, it's got to be demoralizing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope that the person who was doing it. One,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope they stop, but also they just realized that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like harmless but probably not a nice thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 4>They got the they got the prank, the prank got over,

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<v Speaker 4>as i'd say in wrestling, and you had the payoff.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about it. What more is there to want? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't know what they overall were hoping

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<v Speaker 2>to accomplish with it, but I would say they at

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<v Speaker 2>least got something out of it. You got mentioned on air,

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<v Speaker 2>and and honestly had we not. I didn't think about this,

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<v Speaker 2>but it you know, it happened for weeks here and there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was genuinely concerned and until we talked about it,

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<v Speaker 2>like they like that was probably the win for them, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning that like the people were actually calling the hotline,

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<v Speaker 2>they probably wanted them to get on the air or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. But I think what it came down

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<v Speaker 2>to was that they you know, if they stopped. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna hope it's because they realized that, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not nice to mislead somebody who might think for a

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<v Speaker 2>little while they've got a potential sale that could help

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<v Speaker 2>them pay their mortgage or whatever it is. But also,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was working. People were calling our hotline

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<v Speaker 2>thinking we want to buy cars. So anyways, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>Travel Chief and myself Nick Coffee and again we are

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<v Speaker 2>fueled by Thornton's taking you up until six o'clock. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got we've got a game day edition the Cards in

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<v Speaker 2>Action tonight a late one, nine o'clock against Virginia Tech.

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<v Speaker 2>They are nine and a half point favorites. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's another business as usual, right, the team that we

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<v Speaker 2>have grown to love over the really over the entire season,

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<v Speaker 2>but especially once they rounded into form and they realized, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have Cason, we don't have corn Let's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's lock in with what we have to work with

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<v Speaker 2>and let's let's try to get this thing back on track.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's continue the revival. So the team that we've really

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<v Speaker 2>been accustomed to for the vast majority of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>if they show up tonight, I mean I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a win for Louisville, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope it's not even close. But as I talked about yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to try my best to not sweat and

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<v Speaker 2>think like, well, man, we beat them by thirteen, should

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<v Speaker 2>have beat them by twenty two. I mean, that would

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<v Speaker 2>be ideal to beat teams as bad as you possibly can,

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<v Speaker 2>because it can help you influence the metrics and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless, if Louisville ends up winning and they don't cover,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say they win by nine instead of nine and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, I mean, I'm not going to really put

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot into it. That's going to be me

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<v Speaker 2>just continuing to think what I think about this team.

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<v Speaker 2>The reality is the real test for them as far

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<v Speaker 2>as just kind of seeing, Okay, we know this team

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<v Speaker 2>has gotten a lot better since they started playing really

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<v Speaker 2>really good teams earlier this season, But once you get

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<v Speaker 2>to the ACC Tournament and you face the likes of

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<v Speaker 2>a Clemson who you already beat by the way, and

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<v Speaker 2>you've gotten better since then, they may be able to

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<v Speaker 2>say the same thing as well. But I would just

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<v Speaker 2>love the opportunity to play Clemson in Duke. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to probably beat Clemson to get to Duke.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna enjoy the rest of these remaining regular

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<v Speaker 2>season games because again, it's just been a really, really

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<v Speaker 2>fun ride. All right, we are, we're loaded today, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be I'd be a fool not to acknowledge how

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful the weather is today here in Kentucky. And I

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<v Speaker 2>thought yesterday was great. Today is even better. And I

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<v Speaker 2>thought maybe it's tomorrow because we were looking. We gave

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<v Speaker 2>you our weather update yesterday, right, I think Austin and

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<v Speaker 2>I pulled up the the the forecast for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the week, and for some reason was thinking that

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<v Speaker 2>today was going to be the day where it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get quite as warm. But no, it's sixty agree, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it is beautiful. I mean we are sixty four to

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five is the high today, sixty two is to

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<v Speaker 2>high tomorrow six fifty one, which again that's that's still

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<v Speaker 2>warm compared to what we had last week. My gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>if you would have told me that. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>my fault, just you know, I'm accustomed to throwing on

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<v Speaker 2>a jacket over top of my hoodie when I leave

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<v Speaker 2>it's wintertime still. But once I got to the car.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, damn, it's hot. So I took my

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<v Speaker 2>jacket off, and by the time I got to the interstate,

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<v Speaker 2>I was still warm to where I'm not a big

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<v Speaker 2>windows down down on the interstate. It's just too loud,

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<v Speaker 2>So I turned my air conditioning on. If you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>told me a week ago that I would have my

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<v Speaker 2>air conditioning on on the way to work, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I to believe you, but man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy that that's what happened today. But I've never

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<v Speaker 2>needed to wash my car worse than I do right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it just looks disgusting, And you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>oftentimes hear people say and I've thought of it myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Anytime you see a new business being put up somewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know what it is. You wait until they

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<v Speaker 2>finally put a sign up, or maybe you see something

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<v Speaker 2>posted on social media. I feel like forty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the time it's a car wash. They're everywhere. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's some kind of like money washing scheme no pun

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<v Speaker 2>intended to where like it's just where it's where the

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<v Speaker 2>cartel hides money or something. Because I'm thinking, like how

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<v Speaker 2>many how many people are getting their car washed, Like

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<v Speaker 2>how many people? I mean, you're getting your car washed

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<v Speaker 2>every day? Like I'll be honest with you, I only

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<v Speaker 2>go through a car wash if we have something like

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<v Speaker 2>what's happened in the last couple of weeks where it

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<v Speaker 2>gets the salt and the gross snowst just it's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>Other than that, I never take my car through a

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<v Speaker 2>car wash because I don't really need to. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you you know today I don't need. You don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to be looking for a car wash to find one either.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, they're everywhere, like any any area. Preston Highway,

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<v Speaker 2>Barchtown Road, Dixie Highway, Shelbyville Road, I mean, Taylorsville Road,

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<v Speaker 2>all the roads that you're familiar with and you know

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<v Speaker 2>of in the Louisville, Kentucky and area. That you go

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<v Speaker 2>two blocks, you're gonna see probably more than one car wash.

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<v Speaker 2>And everyone that I saw today in my busy day,

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<v Speaker 2>the lines were out to the street. I mean, everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>getting the car washed, so I need to get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not gonna wait in the line. My wife

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<v Speaker 2>she is, I mean she is. She has a brand

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<v Speaker 2>new car, by the way, and I don't say that,

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<v Speaker 2>so like brag, she went out and bought it, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like didn't even tell me, and you know, thankfully,

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<v Speaker 2>she's the one that's in charge of our finances and

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<v Speaker 2>she's the one that knows if we can afford a

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<v Speaker 2>brand new car now.

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<v Speaker 3>But she got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we'll just go off her work. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>got a brand new car, I guess about six seven

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<v Speaker 2>months ago. And it's very nice, but it's brand new.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the first time she's ever had a brand new car.

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<v Speaker 2>And I probably never will because I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think i'll need one. I will drive whatever and until

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't run anymore. Like quite literally, the last three

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<v Speaker 2>vehicles that I have purchased that I've had, they were

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<v Speaker 2>cars that, honestly, like I I didn't want to get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of. But she was like, all right, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>you something different, let's get you something new. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>were nicer. I'm tired of when you drive. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to be in this piece of crab. So anyways, she's

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<v Speaker 2>she's all about getting your car washed.

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<v Speaker 4>So so she's the one driving if she goes out

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<v Speaker 4>in her car. If you guys having to go out

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<v Speaker 4>due due to like a family thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she lets me drive. Okay, okay, Now occasionally

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<v Speaker 2>she will drive. In fact, she drives. You know, she drive.

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<v Speaker 2>She wants to drive. And that's one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>where like like I'll offer to drive and she'll say no.

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<v Speaker 2>But then like if you know, but but if we

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<v Speaker 2>are at dinner and you know, your boy put a

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<v Speaker 2>few back and I can't drive, then she's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta drive, gotta drive your drunk ass everywhere. She

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really say that, but you know she does. She

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<v Speaker 2>says it without saying it, if you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, she on Saturday, I mean, it's the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>and she's she waited for an hour and fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 2>in line to get her car washed. Wow, And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just thinking, like, it can't be that important dedication. I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feel like she did it because she like

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like a decompressing, like you're really like the

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<v Speaker 4>other people's times and you're under other people's surveillance. But

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<v Speaker 4>when you're in your car, in the confines of your car,

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<v Speaker 4>out in front of me, time at you time, you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Do whatever you want. You can.

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<v Speaker 4>You always had the excuse of when someone asks, like

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<v Speaker 4>sitting in the car for a second. Yeah, walking in, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I just got this walking in.

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<v Speaker 2>just the power of the Internet. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of those things that not many people would

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<v Speaker 2>and gets to get gets it as far as like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not something that comes up, but whenever you see

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<v Speaker 2>all that's that's so true. So anyways, I need to

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<v Speaker 2>get I mean today I felt terrible. Uh my my daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>her jacket, like she probably didn't even feel it, but

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<v Speaker 2>her jacket was against the the the backseat door. And

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<v Speaker 2>salt and all that, and she's just got this big

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<v Speaker 2>to hose her down a little bit, not really with

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was able to kind of get it,

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<v Speaker 2>get it, get it off without you know, having to

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<v Speaker 2>take it to the cleaners. But that told me that

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to get my car washed. And then sure enough,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm driving around today and I'm like, yeah, not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be able to do it, not gonna be able to Wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they open twenty four hours? Some are open late.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. If they're open twenty four hours, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it wouldn't be worthwhile. And like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them are automated, But even when you go to

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<v Speaker 2>the automated ones, yeah, there's somebody there working.

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<v Speaker 4>Usually, Yeah, which are usually there to like help, like

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<v Speaker 2>They're really forceful too, by the way, pull up pull

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<v Speaker 2>up neutral. Yes, the neutral is a real big kicker.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to make sure you're a neutral, and I

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<v Speaker 2>guess they have no way of really knowing it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming they're very very direct about that because they've

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<v Speaker 2>had people that didn't do it and then it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe mess something up. But anyways, before we trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got a lot to get into today. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about tonight's college basketball games. A lot of them. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville playing at nine o'clock, but a lot of team.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't want to make it a bigger

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<v Speaker 2>deal than it needs to be, But like North Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>now seemingly in the tournament according to Lenardi, it just

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<v Speaker 2>if it doesn't make any sense. The more ACC teams

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<v Speaker 2>that get in, I guess the better. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>into lying to myself, Like I like to be real

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<v Speaker 2>with myself and not live in a world of delusion.

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<v Speaker 2>Like North Carolina being the last team to get in

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<v Speaker 2>as an eleven seed play and if that's what happens,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a flex to say, well, hey, the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>got four in, Like it's just not but Hubert Davis,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know if you guys saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>It came out today, nobody knew it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why it wasn't public news, but he signed a contract

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<v Speaker 2>extension before this season started, which not ideal for Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's I've never felt like there was any indication

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to make a move, and they're not clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's one thing I want to get you later

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<v Speaker 2>that is really really rare when it comes to Hubert

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<v Speaker 2>Davis as far as coaches that have a job like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of makes me wonder. I don't know, is

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<v Speaker 2>is it is it worth keeping him around. We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to that later. Also, Rick Pattino, he's at it again,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Rick just saying things that nobody else would say,

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<v Speaker 2>saying things that if another person did say it, we

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<v Speaker 2>just laugh it off. And Rix has a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things that you know, never end up actually happening. However,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got the power to say this and it become

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<v Speaker 2>a story. It become something that people kind of dream

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<v Speaker 2>about and think, Okay, maybe this could happen. But Patino,

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<v Speaker 2>along with another legend coach, k Mike Krazuski, they have

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<v Speaker 2>they have put it out there that they want a

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<v Speaker 2>merger between the Big East in the ACC and I've

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<v Speaker 2>never wanted something more in my life. However, the Big ACC,

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<v Speaker 2>the Big ACC, the Big ACT. But but I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't like it's one of those things that like, again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not it's really nonsense if you think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>The ACC has a football component to their conference, and

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<v Speaker 2>football matters more than anything when it comes to how

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<v Speaker 2>you make money. And I just don't see why the

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<v Speaker 2>ACC would have any benefit. Because again, if they can

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<v Speaker 2>maybe get some more money from their network because of basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>anything helps. But I just you know, it's just these

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<v Speaker 2>guys saying it, Coach k and Patino, and that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>where it'll end. But it did at least get me

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about what it would look like. And I would

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<v Speaker 2>love it because I still love the Big East as

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<v Speaker 2>a basketball conference, although they're not getting near the heat

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<v Speaker 2>that the ACC is getting as far as being down

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<v Speaker 2>I mean right now currently as it stands in Lenardi's

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<v Speaker 2>most recent bracketology update, four is the amount both they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting in. And by the way, it's kind of similar

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to seating. You've got Duke propping up

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC Rick and Saint John's propping up the Big East.

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<v Speaker 2>But Saint John's is not near the seed line that

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<v Speaker 2>Duke is. And although Louisville's got some bubble type teams.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess the Big East doesn't, but they

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<v Speaker 2>also don't have many like you've got Yukon looking at

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<v Speaker 2>an eight or a nine. Marquette was rolling now they're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at a six. So anyways, that's besides the point.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would love it. I just don't. I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it would ever actually happen because the Big

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<v Speaker 2>East they would be wise to do this because they

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<v Speaker 2>have nothing to really lose. They would only get more viewership.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Big East Commissioner Val Ackerman has has made

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<v Speaker 2>it clear that you know, she's open to it, but

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<v Speaker 2>unraveling the media rites contracts between these two leagues because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously ESPN is in bed with the ACC, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>ACC network underneath the ESPN umbrella. Well, the Big East

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<v Speaker 2>they've got Fox, NBC and T and T, so in

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<v Speaker 2>order for them to maximize revenue, they didn't get a big,

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<v Speaker 2>big partner to just drop a boatload of money. They

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<v Speaker 2>mixed it around and you know, that's the best they

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<v Speaker 2>can do financially. So one thing that nobody talks about,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not really sure why anybody would just bring

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<v Speaker 2>it up in conversation. But it matters, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, I think you would agree that it matters.

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<v Speaker 2>The Big East not having any representation in any way

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<v Speaker 2>on ESPN, the four letter network, that hurts them. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't give you a specific like number or there's

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<v Speaker 2>no data, but relevance matters out of sight, out of mind,

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<v Speaker 2>right And look, if Yukon's rolling through college basketball, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get mentioned, but like not the way A,

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<v Speaker 2>not the way that A put it this way, Virginia,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not the brand in college basketball that that Yukon is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Yukon, it's kind of crazy. In my lifetime, Yukon,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure has been the most successful program and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not even close.

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<v Speaker 5>Tough.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been kind of weird, meaning that they they'll either

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<v Speaker 2>win it all or like not get in. That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of how they've they've been at times. But like when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to what matters, titles, final fours, like they've

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<v Speaker 2>they've been great. So you know, Yukon is a bigger

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<v Speaker 2>brand in college hoops than Virginia. However, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>if Virginia was doing what Yukon did the last two seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia would get way more attention. And I think part

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<v Speaker 2>of that is because they are on ESPN's channels. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even think it's like a bias thing, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>out of sight, out of mind, Like Fox does a

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<v Speaker 2>great job. I think Fox college basketball coverage is phenomenal,

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<v Speaker 2>but it just doesn't get the same like it just

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't get the same viewership like it. Just as much

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<v Speaker 2>as I think ESPN could be better, they're way too woke.

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<v Speaker 2>Disney needs to cut ties and sell them to somebody

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<v Speaker 2>else that just prioritize, like ESPN is just a component

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<v Speaker 2>of the Disney world, no pun intended. But if it

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<v Speaker 2>was just its own thing, that all it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't have to be underneath the corporate umbrella of Disney,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think it could be even better. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Big East would be wise to take

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of anything that could get them to where they

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<v Speaker 2>have some games on ESPN. I mean, there's a coach

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<v Speaker 2>that used to coach here in Louisville, they used to

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<v Speaker 2>coach in the Big East that I talked to about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, without I mean I don't remember any

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<v Speaker 2>exact quotes, but like he would he would be pretty honest, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that absolutely matters. Look, you know, whenever Chris Mack was

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<v Speaker 2>coaching here and he beat Tom Izzo and in like

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<v Speaker 2>his fifth career game in the Big East, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC Big Ten Challenge. It's on ESPN Prime Time

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<v Speaker 2>Packed House his first season of course, like he's getting

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed by Alison Williams. I mean it's it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're leading into Sports Center probably after the game, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get that in the Big East, and that

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<v Speaker 2>has value. It's not gonna kill you, didn't hold you back,

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<v Speaker 2>but man, your brand presence matters. And Fox and T

416
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<v Speaker 2>and T they just don't provide what ESPN can, especially

417
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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to college sports. So like if you're

418
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<v Speaker 2>Sean Miller at Xavier, good job, you've already won there.

419
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<v Speaker 2>They brought you back. I'm sure you're paid well. But

420
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<v Speaker 2>like if Pittsburgh, where he played, by the way, if

421
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<v Speaker 2>they opened up and fired Jeff Kple, I don't think

422
00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:11.039
<v Speaker 2>he leaves Avery for Pittsburgh, But if he did, I

423
00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:15.000
<v Speaker 2>believe that affiliation with the ACC and with that now

424
00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:17.160
<v Speaker 2>and I look, I know the ACC is where it is.

425
00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:19.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's not a great league right now, in basketball,

426
00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:21.640
<v Speaker 2>and they certainly need to get some new blood in

427
00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:23.440
<v Speaker 2>there as far as coaches and get the thing turned around.

428
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<v Speaker 2>But I would love it. I just don't want to

429
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<v Speaker 2>talk about it enough to where I start to think like,

430
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<v Speaker 2>maybe there's a chance that happens, because again, all this

431
00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:34.400
<v Speaker 2>is is Rick Patino and Coach K just throwing stuff

432
00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:37.839
<v Speaker 2>out there, Like remember when didn't didn't Coach K, he's

433
00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:39.599
<v Speaker 2>the guy who threw out there that we should put

434
00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:42.559
<v Speaker 2>every single team in the tournament. You remember that nonsense

435
00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:45.519
<v Speaker 2>and it just yeah, and then of course you know

436
00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:47.839
<v Speaker 2>just went away. You remember that, right, Yes, I remember

437
00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:49.839
<v Speaker 2>back in the in the in I don't know, this

438
00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:53.400
<v Speaker 2>is probably around like twenty eleven, twenty twelve, Rick Patino,

439
00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he spoke at a press conference and said

440
00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:02.359
<v Speaker 2>that Jay Billis should be the missioner of college basketball,

441
00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:04.680
<v Speaker 2>just like David stern is the commissioner of the NBA,

442
00:21:05.039 --> 00:21:08.279
<v Speaker 2>just like Roger Goodell's the commissioner of the NFL. And

443
00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:10.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, Ri's got away with words, man, he can

444
00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:13.119
<v Speaker 2>be real convincing. He just does his thing. As you

445
00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:15.599
<v Speaker 2>said the other day Austin RP Theater. It's right. So

446
00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:17.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here thinking like, you know what, that makes

447
00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:20.440
<v Speaker 2>total sense. Ri's right, and I started thinking, like, when

448
00:21:20.440 --> 00:21:21.799
<v Speaker 2>are they gonna hire him? And it was just Rick

449
00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:24.440
<v Speaker 2>saying stuff. Rick says, So that's probably what this whole

450
00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:26.039
<v Speaker 2>thing is. But I got a little excited just thinking

451
00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:29.880
<v Speaker 2>about it. And you know, we'll see if there's any development.

452
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<v Speaker 2>But I just don't know if the ACC has anything

453
00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:35.079
<v Speaker 2>to gain by doing it. If they did have anything

454
00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:38.400
<v Speaker 2>to gain, it would probably be again, maybe just being

455
00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:40.519
<v Speaker 2>able to get to squeeze some more revenue because you

456
00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:43.359
<v Speaker 2>would have better basketball matchups. But man, even the best

457
00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:46.839
<v Speaker 2>basketball matchups in the regular season just don't mean a

458
00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:51.599
<v Speaker 2>whole lot compared to like football. Also, Pat forty, he's

459
00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:54.319
<v Speaker 2>got a story that we've certainly got a break down

460
00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:58.240
<v Speaker 2>as expected, this was kind of rumored for a while,

461
00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:02.920
<v Speaker 2>but Forty has the article over at Sports Illustrated the

462
00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:06.079
<v Speaker 2>college Game the sports betting scandal with John tay Porter.

463
00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:10.720
<v Speaker 2>It's widespread and it did in fact get into college basketball.

464
00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:14.759
<v Speaker 2>We can certainly talk about that. There's another near plane

465
00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:18.960
<v Speaker 2>crash as two Southwest plains barely missed each other. What

466
00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:22.279
<v Speaker 2>the hell's going on? You thought I was joking last week? No,

467
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:25.599
<v Speaker 2>this week, this year for vacation. We're a greyhound family.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Tell me where the closest greyhound station is, right, and

469
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<v Speaker 2>then do we want to get into recruiting? Do we

470
00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:35.200
<v Speaker 2>want to Austin? Because Nata Men is one of the

471
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<v Speaker 2>best players in the country, And like I just I'm

472
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<v Speaker 2>not as energized with a high school recruiting as much

473
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<v Speaker 2>as I used to be, just because one I'm grown

474
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<v Speaker 2>up now, but also like it's not as important. But

475
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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like Louis has got a real chance at

476
00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:49.960
<v Speaker 2>one of the best players in the country. And it

477
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<v Speaker 2>gets me excited. So all right, quick break, We'll take

478
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<v Speaker 2>a time out, keep this thing rolling along. It's coffee

479
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<v Speaker 2>and Company, and we are fueled about Thornton's right here

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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports

482
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483
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485
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<v Speaker 2>you wherever you go. You can listen live on the

486
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488
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<v Speaker 2>lines are now open five oh to two five seven

489
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<v Speaker 2>to one seventy nine hundred A wild stat that I

490
00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:26.279
<v Speaker 2>feel like it's a first as far as this happening,

491
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:27.920
<v Speaker 2>but I could be wrong. Maybe it's happened before. But

492
00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:31.039
<v Speaker 2>we are very late into the season, really about four

493
00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:35.359
<v Speaker 2>games left for most teams out there, and yeah, here

494
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<v Speaker 2>we go. ESPN Stats and Info actually tells me when

495
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<v Speaker 2>the last time this happened. This is the fourth time

496
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<v Speaker 2>in the last fifty five years that half of the

497
00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:49.720
<v Speaker 2>men's college basketball preseeedson top ten is unranked. So Kansas

498
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<v Speaker 2>number one outside the top twenty five. That's for the

499
00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:55.480
<v Speaker 2>first time in eighty A p poles. So the teams

500
00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:57.079
<v Speaker 2>that were top ten that are now on the outside

501
00:23:57.119 --> 00:24:03.880
<v Speaker 2>looking in Kansas, Yukon, Zaga, Baylor, and North Carolina and

502
00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:06.920
<v Speaker 2>all those teams are still in the tournament other than

503
00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:10.599
<v Speaker 2>Carolina at least, I you know, I guess the tournament

504
00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:12.319
<v Speaker 2>started today. We'll never know if they'd be in or not.

505
00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>All we can do is guests or reference the guys

506
00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.079
<v Speaker 2>who are so called experts at predicting the tournament, like

507
00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Joelnardi and Jerry Palm and the others out there. So

508
00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I guess they're borderline and just looking at this, this

509
00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.480
<v Speaker 2>list of coaches, I mean Bill Self, I mean I

510
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.519
<v Speaker 2>have no worries about Bill self being a great coach.

511
00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's proven that. I just think he's and

512
00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:37.599
<v Speaker 2>it's on him. I'm not trying to make excuses for him.

513
00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:40.799
<v Speaker 2>He just hasn't been able to get this group that

514
00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:43.440
<v Speaker 2>he has that is super talented to work well together.

515
00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Danny Hurley, I mean, the guy's got two national titles

516
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:49.519
<v Speaker 2>in two consecutive years, and I still wouldn't want to

517
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.119
<v Speaker 2>see him in March. There are some that are saying,

518
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:55.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, well, if he didn't have Donovan is Donovan

519
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Klingen who is the big man for him last year

520
00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:00.319
<v Speaker 2>and he's now in the NBA right he's with the Blaze.

521
00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:02.480
<v Speaker 2>So some are saying like he's the reason and it's

522
00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:04.519
<v Speaker 2>not nothing to do with Hurley, which I don't believe

523
00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:06.759
<v Speaker 2>that at all. But until like he's bad as a coach,

524
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:09.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna still think that's he's in great shape. But

525
00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:14.880
<v Speaker 2>man Mark Few, it's it's not it's not fair to

526
00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:16.759
<v Speaker 2>say that like they've fallen off a cliff, because I

527
00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:19.599
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that'll ever happen at Gonzaga one, because

528
00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:22.000
<v Speaker 2>they he's a great coach, but also because they play

529
00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:26.640
<v Speaker 2>in the Western whatever. But right now, I mean they

530
00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:29.079
<v Speaker 2>are clearly the second best team in their own conference

531
00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:32.920
<v Speaker 2>because Saint Mary's roling, Gonzaga's twenty one and eight and

532
00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:38.319
<v Speaker 2>they are twelve and four in their league. And I think,

533
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, when it comes to like quad one wins,

534
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like Gonzaga is a team that will get

535
00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:47.160
<v Speaker 2>in safely. I mean they're eight nine, so maybe they

536
00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:49.799
<v Speaker 2>are bubbleish, but I think the way the bubble looks

537
00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:52.799
<v Speaker 2>right now, I have a hard time thinking that, you

538
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:55.000
<v Speaker 2>know that that they they won't find their way in.

539
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.640
<v Speaker 2>But my point is this, if you were ever gonna

540
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<v Speaker 2>get Mark Few to leave Gonzaga, wouldn't now be the time.

541
00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:04.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's kind of done all that he's gonna do.

542
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:05.039
<v Speaker 3>There.

543
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:08.119
<v Speaker 2>There was a window where he was flirting with a

544
00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:13.039
<v Speaker 2>national championship where he had two great teams. In fact,

545
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.319
<v Speaker 2>he had more than two great teams, but in the

546
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.079
<v Speaker 2>end he ended up, you know, falling short. He did

547
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:21.079
<v Speaker 2>make it to the championship game, lost to Baylor, and

548
00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:22.480
<v Speaker 2>then I believe there was another year they made the

549
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:23.759
<v Speaker 2>final four, but I could be wrong. And then he

550
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:25.640
<v Speaker 2>had other teams that were phenomenal and then they just

551
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:27.759
<v Speaker 2>fell short like Arkansas and Musselman knocked him out the

552
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:29.359
<v Speaker 2>year they were loaded.

553
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<v Speaker 4>So you mentioned the North Carolina too, one, right, Yeah,

554
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:34.359
<v Speaker 4>played North Carolina.

555
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:38.400
<v Speaker 2>This year in the tournament. No, No, they played Gonzaga,

556
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:42.359
<v Speaker 2>played in the title game Baylor, and then they played

557
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.480
<v Speaker 2>UCLA in the final four and Jalen Suggs hit that

558
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>game winner a half quarter. Okay, So I'm bringing up

559
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:50.839
<v Speaker 2>Gonzaga because they they've earned the benefit of the debt.

560
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I think when it comes to like do they belong

561
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<v Speaker 2>in the tournament because despite always playing in I guess

562
00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:56.359
<v Speaker 2>there's a couple of different ways to look at it.

563
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Despite always playing in a week league, they still get

564
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:04.279
<v Speaker 2>to the tournament. And I believe after last year they

565
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:09.160
<v Speaker 2>have the longest They have the longest standing second weekend

566
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:13.079
<v Speaker 2>streak in college basketball, and I don't even think it's close. Now.

567
00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Some would say, well, it's because they are good, but

568
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:17.319
<v Speaker 2>not good enough to get the seed that they get,

569
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:20.039
<v Speaker 2>so they play bum teams in round one in round two,

570
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>and that's how they end up always making it to

571
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the second weekend. So again, it just depends on how

572
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:26.799
<v Speaker 2>you look at it. But yeah, the last time they

573
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:29.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't make it to at least the second weekend of

574
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:34.160
<v Speaker 2>the tournament was in twenty fourteen, a long time ago,

575
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.279
<v Speaker 2>and they went to the Elite eight. Let's see. Yeah,

576
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 2>they were the national runner up. So he only actually

577
00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:45.160
<v Speaker 2>has one final four. So my point is this, if

578
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:46.519
<v Speaker 2>it was gonna happen for him, I kind of feel

579
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:48.880
<v Speaker 2>like it already would. And he's been there since nineteen

580
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.279
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine, so he may just be there for life.

581
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:53.880
<v Speaker 2>But I kind of feel like, if you were gonna

582
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:55.640
<v Speaker 2>get like Virginia should pick up the phone and at

583
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:57.160
<v Speaker 2>least see what he would say, because I think I

584
00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:00.599
<v Speaker 2>could see him fitting at Virginia. What else can he

585
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:02.640
<v Speaker 2>do with Gonzaga? And by the way, in the New World,

586
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to be able to compete. They don't

587
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 2>have it. They don't have any booster money at all.

588
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Like Gonzaga, to me, is is the best example of

589
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:14.039
<v Speaker 2>a power program because they did become that. I mean,

590
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:16.039
<v Speaker 2>maybe you wouldn't say they're a power program. There's certainly

591
00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:17.759
<v Speaker 2>not a blue blood, but for the last ten years

592
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>they've been as consistently good as most. And again I

593
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:23.400
<v Speaker 2>guess it depends on how you look at it, right,

594
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>is it? Because they play in a league that's terrible

595
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:30.240
<v Speaker 2>and they just take advantage of it. But I've seen

596
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>enough of Gonzaga to know that they are really good.

597
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:36.200
<v Speaker 2>And I just feel like if your mark few like

598
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:37.880
<v Speaker 2>now would be the time to go, if you're ever

599
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:40.599
<v Speaker 2>going to go. And then Scott Drew Baylor, he turned

600
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:45.920
<v Speaker 2>down Kentucky, turned down Louisville, and he's underachieved. I kind

601
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>of feel like with the building him a new arena

602
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:50.400
<v Speaker 2>and turning down Kentucky, he'll never leave, but maybe he

603
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:52.519
<v Speaker 2>has regrets and then he'll sell. Okay of Indiana calls

604
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm out of here. And then Hubert Davis. I mean

605
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.640
<v Speaker 2>we just talked about this earlier. He signed a contract

606
00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:04.319
<v Speaker 2>extension before the season started, and you know, I don't

607
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 2>know if that was necessary, to be honest with you, Like,

608
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:08.440
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of guys who get new deals and

609
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:12.240
<v Speaker 2>extensions and it's absolutely unnecessary. But agents are able to

610
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>leverage really what I don't I don't know what they leverage,

611
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.960
<v Speaker 2>but they scare the athletic director that if you don't

612
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 2>give this guy a new contract and lock him down

613
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 2>long term with a ton of money, then he's gonna leave.

614
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you just gotta call the bluff. In fact, Joshua

615
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:32.039
<v Speaker 2>did that was Scott Saderfield, and it worked out. So

616
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Hubert Davis went. He was he was the runner up

617
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:39.480
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty two. Should have won that championship, by

618
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:40.720
<v Speaker 2>the way, would have changed a lot for him. And

619
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 2>then the next year they didn't make the tournament, declined

620
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the NIT. Last year they made it to the sweet sixteen,

621
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:50.279
<v Speaker 2>and somehow that got him a new contract. This year

622
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<v Speaker 2>they're a bubble team. They very much underachieved, and maybe

623
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<v Speaker 2>they get in and get hot. But like if I'm

624
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<v Speaker 2>a Carolina fan, like I would be rooting for Carolina

625
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:01.160
<v Speaker 2>to obviously to and you want him to maybe get

626
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:02.359
<v Speaker 2>hot and go on a run, But like, do you

627
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<v Speaker 2>believe that he's he's the guy. He's not terrible, although

628
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, when you're Carolina and you're flirting with

629
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<v Speaker 2>the tournament, you might not make it. And you've already

630
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<v Speaker 2>missed it one year in his four years. I mean again,

631
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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about North Carolina. But let me tell you

632
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<v Speaker 2>what makes Hubert Davis very rare as far as a

633
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<v Speaker 2>guy that is coaching at one of the best jobs

634
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<v Speaker 2>in the sport. There's three jobs I think that are

635
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<v Speaker 2>the best in the college basketball world, and I don't

636
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<v Speaker 2>think there's Honestly, I don't think there's a close fourth,

637
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<v Speaker 2>in no particular order, because I think you can honestly

638
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<v Speaker 2>make a case that each of these are the best job.

639
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<v Speaker 2>But I think Kentucky's the best job. Pays me to say,

640
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>but it's the truth. Carolina and Kansas, like, those are

641
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<v Speaker 2>the best three jobs, and I don't think there's really

642
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<v Speaker 2>As I mentioned, I don't think there's a close fourth.

643
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<v Speaker 2>So what makes him rare is not just the fact

644
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<v Speaker 2>that you know, he's a former player that is coaching

645
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<v Speaker 2>at one of these great jobs, but he's cheap Hubert

646
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<v Speaker 2>Davis when he I mean, like, this is what's crazy.

647
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<v Speaker 2>His previous contract that he signed in twenty twenty two

648
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.160
<v Speaker 2>to take over the program, and that contract ran through

649
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:08.839
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty eight. He made four hundred thousand dollars in

650
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:13.400
<v Speaker 2>base pay to coach North Carolina. I mean, they always

651
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:15.240
<v Speaker 2>want to keep it in the family at Carolina. But man,

652
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 2>that that's a reason as to why you might consider,

653
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:24.319
<v Speaker 2>all right, this guy's not terrible, but maybe we just

654
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 2>use all the money to go get players now, because

655
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 2>that's what came out today, is that he's got to

656
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>that he signed a new contract and his base salary

657
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>is going to be one point is one point two

658
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:39.480
<v Speaker 2>five million, and honestly, like that's still really cheap to

659
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:42.799
<v Speaker 2>coach North Carolina. Let's be real, and he didn't need

660
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:44.839
<v Speaker 2>the money. Guy's an NBA legend. I mean not maybe

661
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:46.160
<v Speaker 2>that's a stretch, but like, he's one of the best

662
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:48.720
<v Speaker 2>shooters I watched as a kid in the NBA. He

663
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.920
<v Speaker 2>played in the NBA for over ten years and you know,

664
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:54.599
<v Speaker 2>was a good player. He wasn't a legend. That was

665
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:56.160
<v Speaker 2>a stretch, but he made a lot of money in

666
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the NBA, made a lot of money as an assistant,

667
00:31:58.039 --> 00:31:59.559
<v Speaker 2>probably made a lot of money at ESPN when he

668
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.480
<v Speaker 2>worked there. So like, he's not doing this for money,

669
00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and he knows that if he succeeds at Carolina, he'll

670
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<v Speaker 2>be taken care of. So they're hiring a GM, and

671
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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be shocked at that GM's making similar money

672
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>as Hubert Davis. Maybe I'm wrong there, but anyways, I

673
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:17.359
<v Speaker 2>think their play here is that, look, we got this

674
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:20.559
<v Speaker 2>guy pretty cheap. He's already taken us to a championship game.

675
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Hasn't really done a lot since then to make us

676
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 2>feel like he's the guy for Carolina. But he's one

677
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.200
<v Speaker 2>of our own, he'll never leave us, and he's cheap.

678
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.599
<v Speaker 2>We can use all other moneies to go get players,

679
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:36.119
<v Speaker 2>because I think Carolina in Kentucky have the same mindset,

680
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>or at least did. Like Kentucky has an al resources

681
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 2>they're going to pay. But Mark Pope's been pretty public

682
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:44.440
<v Speaker 2>that he's going to really emphasize, Look, you're gonna be

683
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.720
<v Speaker 2>lucky to play here. You're gonna be taken care of financially.

684
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.559
<v Speaker 2>But like, it can't just be about the money, because

685
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 2>it's a privilege to play Kentucky and there aren't many programs,

686
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.160
<v Speaker 2>if anything, can really sell because money matters. But I

687
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.720
<v Speaker 2>think Carolina tried to do that and it's not working.

688
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:02.440
<v Speaker 2>So now to give Davis another another I mean I

689
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 2>was gonna say another year, but he's under contract for

690
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>a while. They're gonna get the GM to where they got.

691
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:08.839
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna put all the money they're not paying their

692
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.480
<v Speaker 2>basketball coach that they probably could be paying and go

693
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.119
<v Speaker 2>buy players and see if it works. And it might.

694
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<v Speaker 2>And also with Hubert making such a little amount of

695
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:22.319
<v Speaker 2>money compared to other jobs like that, I'm curious what

696
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.319
<v Speaker 2>the buyout is because that makes you know, you can

697
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 2>give him that new contract making you know, one point

698
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 2>whatever million a year, but his with that, with that

699
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 2>amount of money, I would imagine the buyout would not

700
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:35.680
<v Speaker 2>be crazy. And that's really what it all comes down

701
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.599
<v Speaker 2>to the contracts. When it comes to coaches, it's all

702
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>about the buyout. Like if the buyouts not crazy, then

703
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.480
<v Speaker 2>you know whatever, Yeah, we'll keep paying you that if

704
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>you keep winning. If not, we'll cut ties and eat

705
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>the eat the buyout is. If it's not you know,

706
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>something that's going to be detrimental to us, like Louisville

707
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:54.160
<v Speaker 2>right now financially is hurting because of these buyouts they

708
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:58.759
<v Speaker 2>gave coaches. So anyways, let's go to the phone line

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<v Speaker 2>before we get to our next break. Five O two

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<v Speaker 2>the number if you guys would like to give us

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<v Speaker 2>a call. We've got some lines open, but let's get

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<v Speaker 2>it started with Jerry. Jerry, you're on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening many Nick?

714
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<v Speaker 5>I read the forty article. I really don't want to

715
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<v Speaker 5>talk a whole lot about it because I'm not a

716
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.320
<v Speaker 5>big gambling guy. But it's a hell of an article. Man,

717
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:22.239
<v Speaker 5>it really opened your eyes. Sure talking about coaches. Uh,

718
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 5>the rumors about Jay Lucas going to Miami makes me

719
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:28.800
<v Speaker 5>sick as an ACC guy. And and yeah, I know

720
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 5>it'll make it tougher on us if they have a

721
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:34.400
<v Speaker 5>great coach at Virginia at Miami. But but the conference

722
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 5>needs it, right, no doubt, And and and and to

723
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 5>hire j Lucas as a Kenny Payne move in my opinion,

724
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:44.280
<v Speaker 5>because here's the deal. I've looked at the SEC. You know,

725
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:48.000
<v Speaker 5>the SEC is hot right now. All sixteen of their

726
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:53.079
<v Speaker 5>coaches had previous head coaching experience at the Division IE level,

727
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.960
<v Speaker 5>all of them. Okay, so they went and robbed and

728
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:59.079
<v Speaker 5>pillaged other programs to make their conference better, and that

729
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 5>in the ACC to do that, they can't do anything

730
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:05.280
<v Speaker 5>but that. To hire J Lucas huge mistake in my opinion.

731
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:10.440
<v Speaker 5>Miami should get Will Wade. Okay, your little comment about

732
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 5>Mark Pope, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't aim to

733
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.960
<v Speaker 5>talk about him. But it's easy to say I'm not

734
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.679
<v Speaker 5>gonna pay him as much blah blah blah. But but

735
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 5>here's the deal. Say he doesn't make the Sweet sixteen

736
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.639
<v Speaker 5>in year two or three, and he's getting flamed out

737
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:26.599
<v Speaker 5>in the first couple of games. He'll change his team

738
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 5>real quick. That won't stick. You know, it's all about

739
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 5>the money. Come on, Who were kidding here?

740
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Right?

741
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<v Speaker 5>Okay? One more thing you talking about Sean Miller five

742
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:41.719
<v Speaker 5>years ago and and I'm dating myself again, but years

743
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:44.039
<v Speaker 5>ago with the Derby Classic, they just have a thing

744
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.880
<v Speaker 5>on Saturday mornings and they would do two on two

745
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:51.880
<v Speaker 5>contests with the players dunking contest. I don't even think

746
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 5>they were doing three point shooting contest back then, but

747
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 5>I once watched a two on two contest that was

748
00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:59.800
<v Speaker 5>like ten. They went to ten or twelve by four,

749
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:03.000
<v Speaker 5>went to seventy six to seventy two. Had had a

750
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:06.480
<v Speaker 5>guy from UCLA named Brad Holland also had a guy

751
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.360
<v Speaker 5>from Alabama named Reginald King that was a hell of

752
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:15.239
<v Speaker 5>a player. Joe Dean nicknamed him the Mule, okay.

753
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:15.599
<v Speaker 3>And he was.

754
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.039
<v Speaker 5>He was a hell of a player. And that was

755
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:20.320
<v Speaker 5>that was a But anyway, one Saturday morning I went

756
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 5>out there and there was probably you know, six thousand

757
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:26.039
<v Speaker 5>people there and and they brought this little kid out

758
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:29.159
<v Speaker 5>to center court. To do this dribbling exhibition, and my

759
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:31.639
<v Speaker 5>dad usually went with me. He couldn't go this Saturday.

760
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 5>And when I got home, I told him, I said,

761
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.159
<v Speaker 5>I can't. I hate it that you missed it, because

762
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:41.000
<v Speaker 5>I said, I watched the most incredible dribbling exhibition I've

763
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<v Speaker 5>ever witnessed. And I had seen Joe rivals of junior

764
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:46.400
<v Speaker 5>pros and and all these other things that they had

765
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:50.639
<v Speaker 5>around town. But anyway, that guy, that kid was Sean Miller. Okay,

766
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:53.800
<v Speaker 5>and Sean Miller did that dribbling exhibition. He was probably

767
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:58.199
<v Speaker 5>six or eight years old. Unbelievable. But did you know

768
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:00.519
<v Speaker 5>or have you ever seen the clip on you of

769
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:03.039
<v Speaker 5>him on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson.

770
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<v Speaker 2>No, I knew of him as a player. I had

771
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.000
<v Speaker 2>no clue he was this prodigy as a kid. That was,

772
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:09.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, this wiz kid. I'm looking at it now,

773
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:11.480
<v Speaker 2>actually not the clip you're talking about. But yeah, I

774
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>knew he came from a basketball family and obviously was

775
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 2>a good player himself.

776
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:20.800
<v Speaker 5>Yes, but that was incredible. I mean, the most unbelievable

777
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.920
<v Speaker 5>dribbling exhibition ever I ever witnessed. And I've seen a

778
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:26.800
<v Speaker 5>lot of basketball. Okay, one more thing. I got a

779
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:31.239
<v Speaker 5>quick question for you. Uh, buddy of mine was talking today.

780
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<v Speaker 5>I'm curious about these guys and I don't know if

781
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.719
<v Speaker 5>you will have a clue to answer this question. Take

782
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:41.119
<v Speaker 5>a guy like Tom Crean, what's Tom Crean? Do you think?

783
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:44.440
<v Speaker 5>What do you think he makes at ESPN and some

784
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.360
<v Speaker 5>of those other talking heads. Do you have any any

785
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:49.719
<v Speaker 5>idea the range of pay those guys make.

786
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I would say this. I wouldn't be good at guessing

787
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.440
<v Speaker 2>the actual number, but I would be willing to bet

788
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 2>that it's less than most people would believe. You know,

789
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:02.840
<v Speaker 2>those are contract positions. Put it this way. With Crean specifically,

790
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.360
<v Speaker 2>he may he is such a little investment to ESPN

791
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:09.800
<v Speaker 2>that they allow him to work on other networks. He

792
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>called a game the other night with John Fanta. I

793
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:14.519
<v Speaker 2>believe on T and T or might have been Peacock.

794
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:17.880
<v Speaker 2>So you know, these guys are really like Freeland. You know,

795
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:20.760
<v Speaker 2>unless you're one of the big name guys that works

796
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.840
<v Speaker 2>free ESPN, that's you know, that's calling the games and whatnot.

797
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:26.599
<v Speaker 2>You're you know, you're you're making a living. It's a

798
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:28.719
<v Speaker 2>dream job. But I think a lot of people see

799
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:30.800
<v Speaker 2>guys on TV or even on the radio for the

800
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:33.320
<v Speaker 2>national networks, and think, man, they must be making big bucks.

801
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:36.400
<v Speaker 2>And again they're probably not going without, but they probably

802
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>don't make the same amount of And in fact, I

803
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:40.679
<v Speaker 2>would be willing to bet Tom Crean he probably gets

804
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:43.119
<v Speaker 2>paid per gig, if that makes sense, not necessarily just

805
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:45.320
<v Speaker 2>a base pay, which I'm sure the per gig is

806
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.599
<v Speaker 2>is a decent is a decent amount of money, but

807
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:50.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, probably no insurance that kind of stuff, so uh,

808
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.880
<v Speaker 2>it's worthwhile. But I would just tell you that it's

809
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:56.079
<v Speaker 2>probably less money than a lot of people would expect.

810
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<v Speaker 5>I got you all. Hey, big game to night, Yes,

811
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<v Speaker 5>game's a big game.

812
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<v Speaker 2>Go that's right, Thanks Jerry, appreciate you, my man. All right,

813
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<v Speaker 2>let's get to a quick break. We'll come back here

814
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<v Speaker 2>on the other side and keep the party rolling along.

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<v Speaker 2>It's coffee and company fuel BYU Thornton's right here on

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also fueled by the fine folks at the Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>Men's Clinic because doctor Wood very very happy. I met

825
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<v Speaker 2>doctor Wood last year as I finally just decided, you

826
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<v Speaker 2>know what, maybe I should maybe I should get this

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<v Speaker 2>checked out, maybe I should at least, you know, inquire.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember going there thinking this is probably gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a big waste of time, but we shall see.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had heard a lot of the a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the buzz about what the Little Men's Clinic can

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<v Speaker 2>do for a lot of folks, and obviously they're a

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<v Speaker 2>partner with us here at iHeart. And I'd never had

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<v Speaker 2>once given any thought about low tee. I'm an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I proved that maybe every day from time

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<v Speaker 2>to time on the show. But I just assumed that

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<v Speaker 2>low T and ED were the same thing. I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe you guys aren't that stupid, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Maybe I'm not alone, but I always thought

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<v Speaker 2>low T was lowercase T. It's testosterone, brother, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean again, like you just if it's not you,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you are someone that's never really gone out

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<v Speaker 2>of your way to be interested in what it means

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<v Speaker 2>or figure it out like you really would have no

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<v Speaker 2>way of knowing. But I can tell you it made

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense to me when I started to

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<v Speaker 2>one hear about certain side effects that low testosterone can have,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I thought, Okay, you know they are saying

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<v Speaker 2>their marketing messaging is making it clear that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be an old geezer. You can be somebody

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<v Speaker 2>around my agor younger and potentially have testosterone levels that

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<v Speaker 2>are not where they need to be. And then it

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<v Speaker 2>all made sense. For years, I was suffering with low

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<v Speaker 2>T and didn't know it, and that's why I was

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<v Speaker 2>mindful of my diet. And I hate even using the

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<v Speaker 2>word diet, but you know, I just made sure I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't eating like a pig every day. And I exercised,

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<v Speaker 2>not even because I'm trying to look like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some bodybuilder, but because really I like running. I'm weird

860
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<v Speaker 2>like that. I enjoy running. It's good for my mental health.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to get a few miles in a few

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<v Speaker 2>times a week. And yeah, I wasn't like I was

863
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<v Speaker 2>getting excess belly fat man boobs, and I'm like what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on here. So finally I was like, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it is. So I went and saw doctor Wood.

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<v Speaker 2>He explained it to me, educated me on just how

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<v Speaker 2>common it is for somebody my age to feel lethargic,

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<v Speaker 2>to wanna, you know, want to go to bed after

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<v Speaker 2>dinner at times because you're just tired and you really

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do anything specific that would make you exhausted. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot even mental health, I mean, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>factor as well. So go check them out Lobamen's Clinic

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. I'm sure there's many of you listening right

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<v Speaker 2>now that are thinking, yeah, you know what, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it's low tee, but I'm not in my

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<v Speaker 2>forty JET or I'm not in my fifties JET, and

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<v Speaker 2>yet I'm having those same kind of things Nick's talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>So never hurts to at least go check them out.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not just it's not just the testos her

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<v Speaker 2>own treatment that they can help you with. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>there's a variety of things they can help you with.

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<v Speaker 2>Fellas ED. They've got different options when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>treating that Broni's disease, weight loss therapy, hair restoration, the

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<v Speaker 2>list goes on and on. It's Louisville Men's Clinic dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the website. FABO two four four four four thousand

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<v Speaker 2>is the number. If you want to give them a call,

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<v Speaker 2>tell them I sent you. And again, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that they'll be able to get you feeling better.

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<v Speaker 2>And who doesn't want to feel better? Even if you're

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<v Speaker 2>feeling good, imagine feeling better than you are right now?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we got two hours, love to stick around.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll continue to get you said for tonight's game. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a late one nine o'clock tip Louisville and Virginia Tech.

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<v Speaker 2>There is somewhat of a storyline here that I wasn't familiar.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that next, and a lot of other

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<v Speaker 2>things as we won't as we move along here. It's

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<v Speaker 2>coffee and company feel. But Thornton's on Sports Talk seven

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<v Speaker 2>ninety