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Prepkin ready for the Colorado Buffalo's. They are heavy favorite

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in this game. Buffaloes I have had their ups and

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downs this season. They're fourteen eleven on the year, four

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and eight in the Big Twelve, and they're looking to

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write the Ship versus a Formidable Foe and byub Wa

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Universe twenty two in the Nation, eighteen and six overall,

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six and five in Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: Play Finally Gotta Win on the Road.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get out to the let's get out

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to the hotline.

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Speaker 2: Let's start some Colorado Buffalo basketball ladies and gentlemen, boys

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and girl, let's welcome in the voice of the Colorado Buffalo's.

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Speaker 1: We got Mark Johnson on the line. Mark, how that

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are you?

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Speaker 3: Well? A fantastic and I hope the way that you

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guys have been playing all season long and the way

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the Bufflos are playing on the road that being at

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this Valentine's Day, you'll be somewhat loving to us on.

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Speaker 2: Saturday when we get Hey, man, you know, we always

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try to be kind to everyone that comes into the

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friendly confines of the Marriott Center, no doubt. But it'll

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be I'm sure a competitive one, no doubt. Look, the

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Buffs have had their ups and downs this season, and

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recently your head coach went off on a bit of

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a diatrode post game.

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Speaker 1: They are fantastic quotes.

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Speaker 2: Give us a little breakdown what happened over the last

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twenty four to forty eight hours with the Buffalo basketball

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team and your head coach.

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Speaker 3: Well, what what's going on is You've got you've got

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a young basketball team in the University of Colorado. There's

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one senior and he doesn't play much at all, and

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so it's it's mainly all freshman and sophomores. BEng Got

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Decket is a junior and he'll start. And so this

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team a little bit immature. It's talented, but immature. And

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here's what we're seeing with Colorado right now. Every team's

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going to be a little different home in the way

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this team is really jackling Hyde home and away, you know,

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two wednesdays in a row. So you think of the

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last four games, Bus have gone two and two, had

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two nice wins at home, one over TCU, one over

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Arizona State, and then sandwiched around those two where two

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lopsided losses, one at Iowa State and than one at

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Texas Tech last night. Now those are quality opponents, make

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the mistake about it, but this is same Texas Tech

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team they lost two by thirty four last night that

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they lost you by two at home just a few

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weeks ago. And so it's really an extreme team. And

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what is getting Tad's at boils, you know, blood boiling,

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is the fact that they've been so different home and

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away from a I think from an intensity standpoint, from

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a toughness standpoint. So last night he comes on the

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postgame radio chill had it, carried it into the postgame

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press conference, and said he's not sure that the team

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is worthy of taking the charter home. He thought maybe

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should book them on a six am flight, would have

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been this morning. And I very quickly corrected him, said,

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you know, I called him over here, so I paid

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my dues. I'm okay getting unther charter. The rest of

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you can stay back, but I want to go home

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with the charter tonight. So's he's a competitive guy. He

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rarely has an unspoken thought, and he's very honest most

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of the time. But he was frustrated and very honest

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Speaker 2: Well, I can understand he's a little bit frustrated with

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his team. Right now, what's been the trajection of this team?

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they are struggling in the Big twelve. We know the

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Big twelve is a gauntlet, but they've been competitive in

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many of these games, right I mean, you look at

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that Texas Tech matchup, It's like, hey, we were right

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there knocking on the door. Cincinnati was a close one.

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West Virginia had its back and forth. Kansas was a

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close one. It was when you were within striking distance.

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Even UCF the Iowa State game got away. Yeh beat TCU,

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Baylor got away from you. That was a disappointing one.

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Arizona State you bounced back, and then the Texas Tech

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can go around was a flop.

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Speaker 1: But doodle, what's happened.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of interesting that this team is early

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on hees and if you look at the offensive numbers

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for Colorado, it's a very I mean, the number is impressive. Right,

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you know, they're able to score well. They shoot well

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forty eight, forty nine, fifty percent. They've had a good

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three point shooting team all year long. Generally they took

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care of the ball well under ten. The game of

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the last night was sixteen. And so they've done a

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lot of things well on the offensive team. But like

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a lot of young players, they gain their identity and

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their energy for a game by what happens on the

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offensive end. So last night, tax clamping down defensively and

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instead of okay, let's pick up our intensity in a

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defensive end. And okay, if you got to win this game.

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they continued to fire, continue to get their head down,

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then head Town have intensity on the defensive end. During

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Tad Boyle's tenure here fifteen previous seasons, this has been

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a program built on defensive rebounding, and this team lacks

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in both of those areas, despite the fact they're physically

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capable of doing that. And so that in itself becomes

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the problem that they identify offensively instead of living defensively

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and rebounding and then letting the offense come. And that's

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why that's where the discrepancy has been on this team.

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Speaker 2: Right now, well, it's it's always difficult to go through

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long losing streaks.

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Speaker 1: Right there.

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Speaker 2: There was a there was a tough stretch there. It

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was a six game losing streak. You thought you got

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back into the swing of things with a dominant victory

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over TCU, then you drop to Baylor, you beat Arizona State,

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then you lose the Texas Tech. Is this the bounce back?

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We've gone one win lost, win lost? Are they looking

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confident enough to get a win on the road?

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Speaker 1: At b YU.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think they're certainly capable. Now, though obviously that'd

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be a very steep hill to climb considering what BYU

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isn't kind of the personnel that the Cougars have. And

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so but with this team, uh, I think what's frustrating

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about it? And we all know, like you mentioned just

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a moment ago, the Big Twelve is an unforgiving league.

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It's the best college basketball league in America. We all

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understand that. So you're going to face a Byu or

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a Techer in Iowa State or Kansas or you know

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Houston or you know Arizona any given week, and sometimes

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you stack them up three four in a row, and

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it gets me very difficult. So when you are a

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young squad like Colorado is, and then let's just be

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real honest about it. What college athletics is I'm pretty

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sure it's either fifteenth or sixteen. The Buff's roster payroll

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is either dead last or next to dead last in

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the Big Twelve. And so you're bringing a knife to

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a gunfight in some respects Now, is that an excuse

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for losing? No? Is it a contributing factor? It can be.

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And so this is a talented team. I mean right now,

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this freshman class, you know, you've got so many guys

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like you know the Maaster where you're at another freshman

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around the league that are so good. He kind of

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gets lost in the mix. But Isaiah Johnson is a

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very good freshman. He leads the Buffalo is a sixteen

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pointsoot ball game. He's got NBA ties. His godfather is

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is Dwayne Wade. His dad works with Lebron James. And

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you know we're down to Tempe and Chris Paul shows

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up to be So this kid has been around here

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NBA basketball and playing against NBA players. Said, he's on

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fourteen or fifteen years old, so he's got a very

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high upside. He's he got of defies by what he

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looks like, by how he plays. Looks like he's fourteen

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years old, ways aboute hundred and sixty five pounds, but

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a very talented kid. There's Jayalen holland, Josiah Sanders, ian

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Enman Tacowe following. These are all really talented young guys,

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but they don't know what they don't know at the

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age of eighteen years old, and so there's going to

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be some ups and downs. With this team, and you

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know last night they had it down and so they're

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hoping to bounce back, but you got to do it

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on the road against another very quality team, a top

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level team, and so it's not going to be easy

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when they take on the BYU.

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Speaker 2: Let's get a scouting report on these bops from a

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personnel standpoint. You named off a few of these players.

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I know Isaiah Johnson is the leading score of this team,

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and there's some some good big men on this team

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as well. I think there's some talent. You mentioned that

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they're more than capable of beating many of these big

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twelve teams, and they've showcased that. Let's get a little

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personnel breakdown if you could.

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Speaker 3: Well, therein lies the issue right there, and you saw

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it last night. I don't know this is the box

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score in front of you, but the two guys that

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were supposed to be even though there are only ones

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in upperclassman Payne got Dak is just about seven feet

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tall and he's a pogo stick and a real bouncy guy.

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A little on the green side, but he was going

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to be one of the two guys that were going

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to really build her out with all the freshmen coming in. Okay,

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you're gonna be one of the guys. And then Sebastian Ronchik,

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who's a sophomore from Slovaki sixty eleven, highly skilled guy.

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I mean, he's got an NBA look about him. Now,

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is he mentally tough enough to move out of the

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NBA that's the question mark because he's been very inconsistent.

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He can shoot it, he could put it on the floor.

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He's kind of a stretch forward type, but really has

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got an NBA game about him. Those guys last night

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were horble in that game against Texas Tech. In fact,

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one of the coaching staff I was driving home last

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night after we land and shot me a quick text

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about some of the numbers about what the three bigs

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for Tech did, and it was, you know, phenomenal shooting,

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fifty percent shooting and scored you know, thirty two points

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or something combined, and the two bigs for Colorado only

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had I think it was three points between the two

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of them at about five rebounds and five turnovers on

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top of it. So they've been inconsistent. That is probably

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the major if you're going to kind of finger one

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thing you point to that the two guys that were

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and allow the young guys to kind of come in

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and grow a little bit haven't been as good consistently

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as they should have been. Now do they have great games.

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seventeen points, eleven rebounds, and a win over Arizona State

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and was the best player in the court that night.

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Hit what three or four three pointers in that ball game,

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grabbed the four or five offensive rebounds, and so they're

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very capable, but they might lead the parade and inconsistency,

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and that's probably most troubling about that. Outside of that,

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Barrington Hargress is a transfer guard from UC Riverside average

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over twenty eight games froe of the top scorers in

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the country a year ago. He has been wonderful. Now

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he's six foot one, average about four or five assists

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for ball game. Is this is eternal oprations about three

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and a half to one. He has been as solid

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as they come. So the two guys in the backcourt,

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Barrington Hargress and Isaiah Johnson, have been kind of the

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steadying force in this thing. The other youngsters have come

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in and played well at different times. Those two bigs,

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like I said, I've got to find themselves more consistency

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down the stretch before we get to Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: Well, I love the breakdown from I don't know if

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you've chatted with the coaches or any of the players

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about their scouting report on b Yu. But what's the

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buzz there amongst the Buffaloes regarding the formidable foe that

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he's BYU at the Merriage Center on Valentine's Day?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there wasn't much talk about that. I'm supposed to

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get together with the coaches, got the scout later on

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today and get a couple of comments from him on that.

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But obviously, you know, you think about we've seen b

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Yu last year he had the band said he is

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obviously maybe the number one pick in the upcoming draft,

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and he's dynamic with what he does. And Richie Saunders,

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of course we saw him enough last year or know

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that what he was able to do. And and then

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you know, Robert writes a very quality players, so you know,

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there's what we understand what you're getting up against. Uh,

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you know, when you when you start playing BYU, the

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way they shoot the ball, the way they rebound the ball,

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what they do. It's a quality of quality opponent, like

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like you kind of get used to in this league, right,

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we're walking into a situation where you got you know,

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an opportunity where where the bops are sitting right now,

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if you look at this and say, okay, this is

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the game, we're really going to come in and we

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got a chance to win this one. We thought that

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going down the Baylor here, it's a true time ago

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didn't work out that night. Now, this team BYU is

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a lot better than what Baylor is. Baylor's talented, BYU

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is a better team, and so I think it's a

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great challenge for Colorado win SATA, no.

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Speaker 1: Doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: We got Mark Johnson on the line, Cougar Sports, HESBA

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the fan, Mark Johnson, the voice of the Colorado Buffalo's

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talking to buff Ball here on your Utah ESPN Radio network.

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It's you know, obviously be always favored in this one,

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heavily favored. You've been watching Big twelve basketball now, I

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guess reignited, right compared contrast Big twelve basketball of the

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prior I guess Colorado era before jumping into the PAC twelve,

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and what the Big twelve looks like now.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's totally different. You know. It's interesting because you know,

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Colorado has got the phenomenal history in the league. Big seven,

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Big eight, Big twelve one are the original members of it,

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and so there was always that great history. When Colorado

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made the jump in Tad Boyle's second year to the

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PAC twelve, you understood the reasoning behind it. There were

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a lot of fans that weren't happy about, you know,

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kind of leaving behind the old old Big eight, Big twelve,

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but you understood because Colorado's fan base or alumni base,

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i should say, is really East coast or West coast heavy,

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very heavy in California, and so it made sense in

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that regard. And there are other things. Now, let's be

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honest about it, the expanded PAC twelve and the leadership

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that league. We're an unmitigated disaster in terms of how

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they handled things, what they did, they ruined it. Larry

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Scott might be go down as one of the worst

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commissioners in the history of sports. I mean, a guy

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who was a clown. And so you see that thing

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fall apart, and and so you come back now with

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this ever shifting ground. We'reund in college athletics and you

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know nil and transfer portals and all that and kind

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of get reunited with the old conference. But I mean,

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look how different it is. You know, I joke all

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the time during the football season, I said, boy, nothing

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says Big twelve Conference, you know, football like Colorado at

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West Virginia. I mean, it just you know, doesn't doesn't

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seem to resonate with us. Now, with that being said,

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it's a very good and fine football league, but it

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is a spectacular basketball league. And so when you've got

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you know, the Pac twelve leftovers that moved on from Arizona,

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you know, Colorado, Arizona State, Utah comes in there by

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you joins from the outside. And then you add Central

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Florida has become kind of an interesting program in terms

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of the money they're spending down there. West Virginia's got

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great history, and in Cincinnati, which has you know, got

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final fours in its history. You've created this monster conference

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that I think is is better than virtually anything in

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the country right now and can play with anybody. There's

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a reason, you know, why there's what six seven teams

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rank in the top twenty five and everyone I think

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still everyone but Utah. I think the last I checked

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is in the top one hundred of the net. And

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so it's such a monster and that's why it's so grueling,

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you know, gaming and game outs. You know, one of

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the coaches said the other day to me that, you know,

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we wouldn't have faced this kind of schedule in the

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whole Pac twelve. Not you wouldn't have. Because what this

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thing is now is really special from a basketball standpoint,

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but it makes it tough on everybody. And if you're

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having a year where maybe you're a little bit young,

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or you suffer some injuries or guys don't pan out,

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you bet you better get ready because you're gonna take

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your lumps.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to get your opinion after this particular game,

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after watching aj to Bonds up close and personal, you've

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seen Darren Peterson recently. He played I think one of

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the few games thirty two minutes, sixteen points. I think

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he was six to fifteen versus the Boffs, three of

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five for the three point line and one for two

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from the charity stripe, six rebounds, he had two turnovers

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in that game. I can't wait to get your opinion

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on who you would take number one overall in the

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NBA draft.

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Speaker 1: Mark.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. My partner and I Scott Wilke,

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who was a great player for the Buffalos back in

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the eighties, went on and played professionally, sniffed around the

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NBA for a while, was over in Europe for out

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of the fourteen to fifteen years. And this is just

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a basketball junkie we got. Being that we had time

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to talk about such things in the second half of

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that ball game last night. We got into those kind

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of conversations because there are some great freshmen in this league,

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and we kind of went back and forth. And you

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know Peterson recently here with his decision not to play

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against Arizona. He's had a ball game earlier. We had

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been playing the second half, and you're like, Okay, you're talented.

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Make no mistake about that one we saw him. I

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was wildly impressed with what he is as a player,

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But that bothers you. I've been impressed with the Boston

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and kind of his commitments and the way he plays.

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I think I would take him. That would be my

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pick there, and I'd shive away a little bit way

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from Peterson simply because of kind of the external things

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that are going on around him that that body a

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little bit. But then again, we're going to deal more

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and more with that in college athletics when we got

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a professional feel and a professional approach and professional money.

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So that's going to become part of what we're dealing with.

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But at this level, you want to see guys that

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are hungry and they're competing and they've got a little

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nasty to them, and and so you don't see that

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from every one of the guys. And that's why I'm

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looking forward to seeing demonsty in in you know, in

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person this weekend, because I've seen enough highlights and I've

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watched some of the games and got a good look

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at him and a great appreciation for what he is.

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But you know, you never truly get that feel until

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you're sitting right in front of him and kind of

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see him perform.

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Speaker 2: I get the feeling mark that you're you're an anti

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load management guy, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a dirty word. Well,

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I'll take you a great explanation here. You know, Marshall Funk,

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who was another football staff here at Colorado last year. Yeah,

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and I was doing an event with Mark. We were

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talking about this every thing, and I said, he said,

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give me your opinions, and he said, what we've done

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and he used, you know, on that staff, he had

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Deon Sanders obviously, and Warren Stamp And he says, well,

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Dianna and Warren and I were coming up. College was

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our next step to get to the goal, and we

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knew that we had to fight and work hard and

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bleed and all that kind of stuff and sweat to

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get there because then we'd get the reward. He says,

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what we've done now, we've given the eighteen nineteen year

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old the reward. It has taken the motivation away. And

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he said it from his standpoint, he says, I see

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it in the eyes of the players that I'm coaching.

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Some of them are hardworking kids, but there's there's not

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that incredible hunger of this is how I get out.

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He said, that's gone. I had it, Prime added Warren

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add it other great the players had it, and then

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you you know, get that reward once you get to

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the National Football League of the NBA. And he said,

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we've taken that away. From these guys, and he said,

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I wonder long term how that's going to affect our game.

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And I think it was an interesting thought by him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you teach competitive nature? How do you

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teach a sense of urgency? How do you teach like

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that that hunger of like it's you know, I don't

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want to say fear, but you know there is a

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bit of a fear of like, oh my gosh, I

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could lose this at any moment. I gotta I gotta

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show up. I gotta compete. I I It's a fight

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or flight type of deal.

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Speaker 1: How do you teach that there.

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Speaker 3: Is no doubt? You know? I once heard somebody say

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that rock Bottom has created more success than privilege ever has.

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And when you get a guy and you're backed up

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against the wall and you know that's your only way out,

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you were going to do everything to get there, and

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you know, very few guys are naturally have that killer instincts.

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You know, when you get great talents and great work

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ethic and great killer instinct you put it together. You

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get Michael Jordan, right, you get Special, you get Kobe Bryant.

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Those guys are unique. How many times do we see

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in pro sports, a guy that you know, he's fighting

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along in his career and then he it's the big contract,

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and all of a sudden, you see the level of

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intensity kind of kind of tail off a little bit.

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I mean, that's human nature. We all got to fight that.

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Some guys are better at it than others. And I

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don't know how you teach beyond that. You know, it

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seems to me in my experience being an old guy.

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You know, I think I think it's innate or it's not.

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It's either in there or it's not. I don't know

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that you can teach killer instinct, you know. And you

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think of the greatest athletes we've ever seen, and go

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on down the line with Bird and Jordan and Gretzky

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and Tiger Woods and you know, pick all the great

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ones out. They all had that. I think of eightly,

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And I'm not sure if you can teach it, but

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I do think you can dampen it early on by

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getting too much comfort and you know, kind of making

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things easy on guys. And I do wonder if that's

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going to affect to our game.

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Speaker 2: Love that perspective, Mark John said, The voice of the

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Colorado Buffalo is one last thing before I let you go, Mark,

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because I know this is you're in lockstep with me

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on this one.

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Speaker 1: Arm at arm.

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Speaker 2: I have found it refreshing. Okay, well, let me take

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a step back. Over the last like ten to fifteen,

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may even twenty years, I've seen like kind of a god,

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Deity and Christ take a back seat in the postgame interview, right,

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you know, praising God, and like it's it's had a

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revival of resurgence over the last two to three years

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collegiately and professionally, and I'm loving it.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many testimonies time and time again postgame

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and and look, these athletes are not perfect. They fall

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short in many ways personally, spiritually, morally, ethically, all those things.

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But like, I just love the fact that they're they're

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putting their faith on their sleeve and promoting faith in

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an era that has kind of ridiculed it a bit.

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Speaker 3: Well, we live in a world that is very hostile,

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and we understand that from scripture, don't we. And for

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your listeners that don't know what I was going to

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be there as sportscaster, a pastor and I am actually

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a pastor, a pastor a lot and preach a lot

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and do a lot of that kind of stuff. And

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so that's something that's near and dear to my heart.

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And you know, in a role like mine, who a

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guy that works for the institution not gonna be very

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careful when I approach his anthles, sure about that, right,

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go up and start those conversations. But I can respond

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to the conversations. And so over the course of time,

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a lot of young men have come up and started

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those conversations with me that I'm allowed to. And so

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having those conversations, I love the fact and a lot

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of times with these young guys, it's it might be immature, right,

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they're not fully understanding where it comes from, but what

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it's ald about and how it works. But there's an interest,

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there's an intrigue, and they're looking for comfort in some respects,

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they're looking for dealing with the stress. And I understand that,

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and I think it's important then for those that are

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in those positions then to encourage those young men to

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understand what it's all about. Right. And I'll tell you

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a great story. Once I what young man that I

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was kind of talking to in a regular basis, I

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walked the locker room. He's got a shirt off, and

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we've all seen this with asley try they got the tattoo.

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Only God can judge me, and it was kind of funny.

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And I walk up to and I said, a nice tattoo,

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and he goes great, and I said, what does that

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mean to you? And he so he tells me. And

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then I said to him, I said, you're right, and

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he will according to scripture, and that should terrify you, right,

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which is why you And so it prompted a great

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conversation with him about what that means. And I love

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the fact we're seeing listen, anytime the Gospels preach man,

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I'm all for it. And you're seeing that more and

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more and more. And then I think it's important for

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all of us older guys to kind of help them

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along and kind of take that walk down their faith.

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And so you're never gonna hear me poo poo that

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kind of idea.

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Speaker 2: Love it, Mark. I knew you'd be in lockstep with

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me on that one. Big Kugarota. You man, enjoy the

523
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call here in the marriage center and enjoy provo if

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you get out and about get up to sundance. Get

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up to Sundance. The Foundry is the best place for anything.

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The Cowboy Bar is pretty cool too. Some live music

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if you can catch it. I know you guys are

528
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gonna be calling the game, but if you're gonna stay

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a little bit longer after the game, or we have

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some time prior on Friday night, feel free to do that.

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We salute you, We appreciate you, Mark, and we'll see

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in provo here shortly.

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Speaker 3: I look forward to it. Take care, diego.

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Speaker 1: Mark Johnson, the voice of the calling out of Buffalo's.

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That was a no.

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Speaker 2: The faux segment. It was a great one. Fantastic interview.

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I love Chatt and Ball with Mark Jarnson. Guys, that's

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