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Speaker 1: Well, it's my pleasure to welcome to the show this

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week for the podcast, it is the IVF Welterweight Champ

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of the World, Jaran Boot Senta's Boots. Thanks for doing this.

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You've got a very big fight coming up, I would

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I would say we'll talk about this, the biggest of

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your career.

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Speaker 2: Go square off.

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Speaker 1: Against a Monta stanionis they unify your IBF title with

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his WBA Wealthair White Table April twelf It's the Mattroom

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Boxing main event alive on the Zones at the Boardwalk

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Call in Atlantic City, not too far from your hometown

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in Philadelphia. So welcome to the show. Uh, and answer

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that question, is this Do you think this is by

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far the biggest fight of your career?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, we don't know. We'll you know, we'll see you

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on you know, all finite. But what's you know, citations wise, Yeah,

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you know, because you got a bet, I got a bill,

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but you know, Star Wars don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, you have been calling out for unification

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fight for quite some time, ever since you uh uh

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picked up the title that you have at the moment,

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is this uh? Is it a It's been a long

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trek to get there. How are you feeling now that

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you finally have at least one of these unification fights

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that you've been asking for for such a while.

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Speaker 2: I feel great, you know, to be able to have,

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you know, finally get what I want, you know, and

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that's unifications and not fighting these these are other guys

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and things like that. So I mean, you know, I'm

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excited to be able to to fight for unification. And

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like I said, short, the world, well, I'm the best

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in the world.

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Speaker 1: When you and your team, when you and your father

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and everybody looks over stanionas checks out the video. Maybe

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you've seen him fight, you know, in person in the past. However,

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it may be what do you see in his style

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that that makes him appealing for your style?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean we see we see a lot,

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you know, and he you know, he hit a good

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fighter and things like that, but there's nothing we've never

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seen before. He come forward, no pressure, he comes forward

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with pressure, Try Jim, try throw a lot of punches.

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You know, we've seen all that before. Ain't no fing

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we've never seen before. So you know, I'm we're excited

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and uh, we can't wait. You know, I'm ready, ready

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to make a big statement on all the next editent.

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Speaker 1: You're coming off of your of your last fight in

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the mandatory rematch against current Chakazi in which was a

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fight that I don't think you wanted. I don't think

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anybody wanted, but because of the IBF situation, he wound

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up as the fight you kind of had to take,

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and you had you had beat him so easily in

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your first fight, which was for an interim title back

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in twenty twenty three. How annoyed? How annoyed were you

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that you were sort of forced into that fight if

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you wanted to maintain your title. It's one thing boats

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to have a mandatory, it's an other thing to have

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a mandatory not that long after you already kicked the

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guys who are in not that long ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's very hard. You know, it's frustrating,

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but you know, in the day is boxing, you gotta

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do what you gotta do. You know, you put him

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in front of me, I gotta fight him, and I

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gotta beat him. So That's what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 1: He seemed to give you at least a little bit

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of a more competition in the second fight, changed things

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up a little bit dinner run the way he did

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the first time, actually did stand for for for a time.

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For times during that match and fight, you you yourself

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kind of were critical of your own performance when it

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was over. Were you were you a little disappointed in

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that particular? Are not the result because you won the fight,

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but just in the way that you boxed?

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean, uh, you know it's it's definitely

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not not disappointed, but I know better than things like that.

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And uh, it's it's it's hard to fight guys like that,

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you know. You know, like like you just said, I

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beat him already, and you know I already kind of

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like didn't want to want to fight. I was forced

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to fight him. So you know, today is a boxing

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you live and you learn, you got you gotta you

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gotta push through it, you know, and uh, you know

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it made me actually a better better fighter and and

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uh and take you know two things differently in camp.

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Speaker 1: You know, well before you had the rematch, I mean,

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the one way that you could have not had to

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fight him at least right away to keep your title

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was under ib f roles because the mandatory was due.

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You could have done the unification fight. And obviously you guys,

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Eddie Hearn and your team at Matt Troom and your

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your side of the of the Alleger had conversations about

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the possibility of a unification with Brian Norman and it

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did not come about because you guys were a little

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part on the money. I wonder were how disappointed were

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you about that? That here on the one hand, you're like, well,

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maybe I'm gonna get the unification I've wanted, and then

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obviously it fell apart and the alternative was you having

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to fight the mandatory again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's very it's very disappointing. But at

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the end of the day, we're here now, I got

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my unification, you know, and I'm ready to put it

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over next year. I'm ready. I'm ready show the rule

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round the best in the world. I guess I'm not

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to stay honest.

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Speaker 1: Brian Norman did come back from his own injury that

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he had and he did fight just recently against Derek Kavis.

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He got a third round knockout, you know, look really good,

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you know, blowing him away. Obviously not a top level

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opponent like if he was fighting one of the other champions.

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But if you if you take care of your business,

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like I know you expect to do against Danielis and

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you unify. Is that a fight you want to revisit

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before you go to one fifty four and try to

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continue to unify the welterweight division.

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Speaker 2: My many phobies right now is a manches day owness.

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You know. Once I handle business next day and uh

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showed the world around the best in the world, we'll

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figure it out and wilfare what we're going to do

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from there, you know. But like my main phocus right now,

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I ain't really learning about nobody else outside of mantstain Huns.

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I'm locked in on him, and uh, once i'm Victoria's

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you know next here to day, you know, we'll take

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it from there. You know, we'll see there.

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Speaker 1: Well. I certainly understand that attitude of being locked in,

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especially on an undefeated champion that you got to fight,

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But I do want to ask you about all the

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things that went into before this got done, which was

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the conversations you know, you know what happened with the

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you know, you were tied to the fight potentially going

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over to Saudi Arabia that would have been this past

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February against Virgil Ortiz that had been a heck of

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a fight, be a great fight, you know in the future,

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I would imagine. I just like to hear from your

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perspective what exactly happened in your mind, because it seemed

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like that fight was the deal made. Everybody seemed to

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be excited. Turkey Alshkh was into the fight. H And

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then it came time to get it done done, and

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it was a difference over what the weight was. Where

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he was at fifty four, you were at forty seven.

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You had said maybe I'll move up to fifty four

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after the Chikazian fight, and then when he got the paperwork,

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it said forty seven, No, no go for him. What

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what was your what was your side of that situation?

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Speaker 2: Don't good? It was, Uh, I'm a one forty one

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forty something hundred, you know, and that's that's the weight

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that I'm at right now. So yeah, well, you know,

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there was a lot of confusion and misshands going on,

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but it's out of my control, you know. And uh,

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at end of the day, I'm at one free man.

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I'm I'm like, you know, I'm freezing right now at

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the moment, and I'm I'm getting to collect these boats,

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unify and uh, uh, you know, attract at the other

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chamberge as well, So you know I'm done here.

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Speaker 1: For them, Okay, I mean I just was asking that

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because it always seemed to me anyway that it was

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contemplated at one fifty four all long, because of his

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weight and because of your comments after the uh the

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recent fight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I that's like, that's like me telling you

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I might come to a party if I don't show up,

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I said, I said, Mike, might you know, like I

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said before, I feel like I got unfinished business at

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one forty seven. I can't I can't just leader division

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without without no compassion what I want to complish, you know,

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and things like that. And I said, like I said,

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I never I never fought for a ward title. I'm

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a one forty seven penal champion. I got the ivy

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of but I never fought for the boat. The boat

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was given to me. So you know, I feel like

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I feel like I'm finally getting what I want and

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now everything like roll, everything like perfect timing, you know,

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and things like that.

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Speaker 1: So I was I was going to ask you about

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that because you know, obviously you've already shown yourself to

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uh to be maybe already people. Some people think you're

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number one at war and forty seven. There are other champions.

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But like you said, you won the interim belt when

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you fought to Chikazian, but not the full belt. That was,

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you know, not your fault because the champion was Terrence Craford.

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He was moving up to another way class and vacated,

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so you took over that mantle. Uh So this, this

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would be the first time to win real, a real

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full title if you will in the ring exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I'm and I'm gonna be able to take it

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from a champion. So I'm just first time fight for

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about doubt. You know, like I said, I'm excited this,

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I'll finally getting what I want. And like I said,

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I can't leave one forty seven and go go to

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fifty four and and by what I and I can't

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leave forty seven without you know, handling my business. And

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then once I handle my business at forty seven, then

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I'll go to fifty four.

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Speaker 1: And right now seven, well, it seems like if you

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do take out of your business that you're talking about,

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that the future is immensely bright, whether you're fighting at

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forty seven or at one fifty four. I wanted to

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ask you about this, and it's not it's lots of

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fans talk about this, but it was Turkey al Chic

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that put this out there and posted to a social

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media not that long ago, where obviously you have this

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fight coming up, but he has a big show he's

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doing in Times Square in May. Ryan Garcia and Devin

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Haney are on that card. Tiafimo Lopez is on that card,

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and we all know the deal. If tia Fimo wins,

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and if if Garcia and Haini both win, they're going

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to have a rematch in the fall. He would like

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to have you fight tia Fimo on that same card

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if ta Fimo also wins. Uh. I just wondered your

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thoughts about that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he he a good fighters, you know, you

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know all the great fighters you know, and that's a

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good card. Yeah. Well, like I said before, you I'm

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I'm like, I'm doubting on one one goal right now,

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and that's becoming unified the word bringing a thirty B

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built home and then uh the ring magazine Bill Hayes,

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I'm believe, believe, not worried about nobody else ouse Saturday.

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now then almost hand.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you then about standing on us in

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terms of the way the schedules have gone. Uh, I

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wonder if you know you you have fought, you know,

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as boxing goes today regularly. You fought two times in

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twenty twenty three, you fought two times in twenty twenty four,

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and so you've been you know, act what what goes

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for active these days? He has been very inactive though

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he's just had one fight. It's coming off of your

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layoff when he fights you for the unification, but he's

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only had one fight in three years. When he gets

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in the ring with you, I wonder if you think

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that that is a significant advantage for you, and just

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in terms of the you know, the roster, the the

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timing and all the things that are going to preparing

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for a significant fight. It's hard enough to fight Boutsenes

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no matter what Boutsennis that's been active, and you're coming

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off a long way off. That seems to be a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's a lot of things that's gonna

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play the part. You know, this fight is gonna be

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It's gonna be me, you know, doing what I'm gonna

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do to him. It's gonna be the crowd, you know.

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Like I said before, he he fought on big cars,

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but he never was like the meaning it every time

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he thought it was no crowds and stuff and things

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like that. I said. He a great fighter, but a

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lot of things are gonna play a ficker, uh into this.

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The crowd, you know, fight week, the media, all the

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you know, cameras and a that stuff being around. All

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the stuff gonna hit the tool. And then once he

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finally get in the ring with he gonna be like,

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I think that's switch gonna hit like I dam, I'm

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finally in the ring with which Boutsen is like, and

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see what it feel like, you know. And I heard

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I heard them talking and things like that, saying this

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is saying that. But you know, we I can't wait.

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I'm excited, I'm prepared, I'm ready to handle business.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to wrap up with this. You mentioned

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about the crowd. The fight's taking place at Boardwalk Hall.

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It's a very hallowed, very famous arena for lots of things.

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But boxing has hosted some huge fights over the years,

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big mega fights. Mike Tyson, Arturo Gotti, Bernard Hopkins of

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Vladimir Klitschko, Miguel Coto, Kelly Pavlck, and Jermaine Taylor. I mean,

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I've covered so many of those fights that could go

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on and on, but this is as crazy as it sounds.

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And I actually had to go look this up because

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just to make sure. This is going to be the

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first fight they've had in the main arena at Boardwalk

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all they've had so I'm in the upstairs arena over

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the last several years. But it's the first really big

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championship fight card in the main arena since Bernard Hopkins

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and Sergey Koval have fought in a light heavyweight unification

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fight back in twenty fourteen. That is a long time ago, Boots,

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I saw. I wondered, just from your point of view,

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how does it feel to be like the main guy

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bring in boxing, big time boxing back to this great

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old arena that is so close to your hometown of Philly.

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Speaker 2: Uh, It's it's it's phenomenal, you know. Like I say,

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I actually for at the border in the little room

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for Roman builda you know, so this is like this

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is gonna be you know. I had a couple of

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legendary you know, fights, you know, in La City, and

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I'm excited to be able to do it in a

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big arena, a bigger arena, you know, and uh Floyd

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Ford deer Be for Goutti. There a lot of I

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think Mickey Ward and Garrity for dere you know, a

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lot of a lot of legendary fights been you know,

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been held at this arena. And I'm I'm ready to

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right depend on the legendary performance, you know, come come

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next Saturday. So I think it's it's my turn. Everything

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like I'm saying, I feel like everything just fall right

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in the place, perfect time, and uh, I feel like

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we're gonna have a legendary night, you know, next Surday.

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I'm ready to show up.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever, as a younger guy go to any

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of those fights at border Wal Calls young as a kid? Maybe?

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Speaker 2: Uh, every fight that I went as a kid was

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at the smaller one, the smaller venume.

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Speaker 1: So you're going to be in Boardwalk Calls Maine Arena

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for the first time as a as as a fighter

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in the ring, as even though you've been there as

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a spectator went upstairs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's my first time being in a bigger

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the bigger room, you know. And uh, I'm excited. Like

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I said before, a lot of legends came through, you know,

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and I'm ready to I'm ready to stand my uh

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my legacy, my my legendary performance on on April, so

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you know, I'm ready for my my legendary performance in

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the in the Borough Golf.

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Speaker 1: Well, I certainly wish you the best of luck in

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doing so. It's gonna be a big night for you,

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a big knight for boxing, a big night for standing

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on us as well. So, Boots, I wish you the

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best of luck and I really appreciate you doing this today.

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Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you appreciate it.