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smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for

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your support. I want to talk now about what we

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can expect to see in the campaigns that Democrats will

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be We'll be waging to take control of the US

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House in twenty twenty six and maybe win some seats

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in the US Senate. And according to the Hill dot com,

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Democrats are coalescing around a particular issue. No od, oh,

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it's not healthcare. They always do that. This is new.

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This is a new issue for Democrats, according to the Hill,

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All right, now, stay with me here, you ready? Energy

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m eh huh yeah, oh, energy, specifically the cost of

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your electricity or power bill. See. They they they toyed

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around with us a little bit in the last election

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from last week, and they feel like they've got a

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real winning issue here if they tie it to affordability,

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see affordability. See now they are super interested and focused

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like a laser on affordability because that is what the

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Prophet Mamdani has showed them. And so if you just

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say affordability all the time, nobody will remember that you

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passed massive spending bills which drove up inflation and drove

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up the costs of literally everything. So just say affordability,

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and I feel your pain about the high cost of energy.

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See it's gold, I tell you gold. Democrats plan to

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hammer Republicans over electricity prices in twenty twenty six and

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possibly beyond as they try to replicate their twenty twenty

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five successes. Candidates who won key races last week in

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states including New Jersey and Georgia talked frequently about the

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rising costs of electricity and pledged to bring them down.

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Now do you bring them down? Though? That's the question, right,

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or maybe it's not. As you know, the Prophet Mamdani

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piece be upon him. He never had to say how

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he's going to bring down electricity rates. Oh, I know,

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we can take money from the billionaires and just pay

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off your monthly electric bill. How about that? Who's on

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board for that? Huh? The issue will be part of

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a broader Democrat strategy of centering affordability, but it also

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marks a shift for the party in how they talk

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about energy and climate issues. See, this is where I

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think you might have a problem. And if I may

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be so bold as to offer a slogan, it's not well,

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it's not even really a slogan. It's it's really just

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one word that you could use if you are running

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against one of these Democrats, who are you know, preaching

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affordability and power bill prices? Here's the word nuclear, or

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as Homer simps that we call it nucular. Well, and

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George W. Bush nuclear? Where are you guys on nuclear? See?

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If whatever plan you're looking to roll out, I mean,

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aside from the soak the rich plan and have them

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pay for our power bills. If whatever plan you are

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pitching as part of your campaign strategy to center affordability,

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if it doesn't include the construction of a metric crap

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ton of nuclear plants, then you are not actually serious.

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You're not serious. Electricity prices rose five point one percent

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from one year ago. That outpaced general inflation, under which

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prices are only three percent higher than they were a

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year ago. Democrats looking ahead to the midterms see this

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issue as a winner. Here's a quote from Christina Polizi,

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spokesperson for climate politics group Climate Power. She says, electricity

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costs are the new eggs. So when everybody was hyper focused,

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and by everybody, I mean Democrats in the media, but

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I repeat myself, they were focused on the egg prices,

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you know, because Orange Hitler and remember Orange Hitler started

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talking about the price of eggs, because that was due

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to well you bird flu and all of that, they

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had to slaughter a bunch of chickens and such, but

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also due to inflation. And so then Trump gets in

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and you know, on this promise that he's going to

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bring down the price of eggs, and they're like, well,

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price fixson, going back to the normal price. What's going on.

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It's like, well, that's how inflation works. The prices don't

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ever come back down. But the prices have dropped. They've

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been cut in like half over the last two years

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or a year. So they're going to make your power

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bill the new eggs. Politzi added that Democrats should try

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to keep focus on the issue going forward and blame

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Republicans blame the Republicans for the high price of electricity.

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Eddie Vale a Democratic strategist, no relation to the Ski

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Country place, but Trump slashing all of these clean energy

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projects gave an easy link to being able to blame

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him for it. So they're going to claim that reducing

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the hundreds of billions of dollars in clean energy handouts,

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that's the reason why everyone's power bill has gone up.

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It's not the offlining of coal plants, right, It's not

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the decommissioning of the various power plants that are too

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dirty that are killing us with all of the carbon dioxide.

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Has nothing to do with any of that. It has

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nothing to do with the what three trillion dollars in

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new spending that the Bided administration oversaw. It's got nothing

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to do with that, in the inflation that it caused,

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nothing to do with any of that. No, No, it's

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that the clean energy projects are are not being funded, which,

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by the way, wasn't clean energy supposed to save us money?

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That was the pitch, right that once we move to

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all the renewables, it'll be so much cheaper, right, Like

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this is gonna not just save our lives, but also

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it be it'll be cheaper, it'll be cost competitive, and

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all this like this was the way of the future.

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This was progress, we were told by the progressives. And

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I mean, if you can't trust the progressive to tell

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you what progress looks like, who can you trust? Really,

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they want to build more green power and that will

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do the trick. So we need to maybe borrow a

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couple trillion more build and subsidize more green energy projects

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and that will bring down the prices of electricity or something. Again,

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just I humbly submit to you. Simply respond. If you

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are on the campaign trail, you're in a debate or

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something with somebody who is complaining about the price of energy,

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ask them nuclear you like, can we add some some

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more nuclear? Because if we add some more nuclear, like

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that provides massive amounts of stable, low cost energy to

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the consumer, Like that would be fantastic. No, right, Oh,

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and the reason why we don't have as we haven't

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built a nuclear plant in America, like I think in

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my entire life. So why not build some more of

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those plants and then you don't have to worry about

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any CO two emissions either. It's like a win win. No. Yeah,

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from Russ Sadly, I think the Democrats' energy play may

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actually work. Too Many voters just want somebody to say

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they hear their problems, and even fewer remember anything beyond

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the current news cycle. Not many people will even think

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about decades of opposing nuclear, regulating everything and attacking fossil

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fuels as being the cause for higher energy prices. Yes,

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that is the challenge that Republicans have to meet, and

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the affordability issue is a very large one right now. Now,

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we don't know over the next year, something may change

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and become the issue for the midterm election. But as

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it stands now, all of these campaigns and parties and politicians, yeah,

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they're all shifting their focus to this affordability argument because

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prophet mam donni pieced upon him like he used this

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and just kept saying affordability. Ben Shapiro talked about this

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in an interview recently, where you just keep saying affordability, affordability,

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and you don't offer any real, actual pragmatic solutions that

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are realistic. But people don't care. Obviously, voters don't care.

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They just want to feel heard. You know, Oh, I'm

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suffering from affordability too. Oh my gosh. So Republicans are

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going to need to do something about this. They're going

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to need to, you know, get the economy humming along.

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And you can't play the Biden gaslighting game by telling

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people that things are actually much better than they are.

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People know the economy based on their own personal situation,

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and people's purchasing power has diminished, and there are many,

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many reasons for it, as Russ has said, regulation but

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also you know, profligate spending, the massive spending bills that

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the Biden administration pushed through along with Democrats and you know,

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celebrated by the media. All this stuff was needed, all

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of this was going to benefit us, and you know,

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people like me were saying, this is going to bankrupt

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us even more and it's going to create all of

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this inflation. And it did, and here we are, and

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now that inflation is just baked into all of these costs.

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Let me go over and chat with Jim. Welcome to

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the show. Hello Jim.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Yeah, I've been listening to you on the energy issue.

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Or am I not mistaken that the people who have

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shoved quote unquote renewable energy or green down our throats

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for decades. Are the left that are going to now

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talk about affordability.

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Speaker 1: Correct, And they're going to say that the way to

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affordability is through the renewables, Except.

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Speaker 2: That's the most expensive way to pre create electricity.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 2: So the logic there is.

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Speaker 1: No whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me just stop you right there.

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You said the L word logic does not apply in

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any of this.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, So telling the truth isn't going to work, correct.

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Speaker 1: What The only thing I think that is going to

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work to combat an argument on affordability or or the

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lack thereof, is for people to actually believe that they

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are advancing, they are making more money, they have more

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disposable income, that there are a lot of jobs out

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there for them. House prices are coming down. This it's

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a very big lift. But again, it's it's the economy.

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Speaker 2: You know, Well, it was the economy back when Donald

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Trump won m H.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always the economy. But the thing is that

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the yelling affordability in the next breath, yelling renewable. That's

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like saying that, well, congratulations, inflation is up at twenty

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two percent, but we're printing more money.

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Speaker 1: Well, see you are you're relying on people to have

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some modicum of education. But because the left took control

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of the school systems, they don't know that, they don't

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recognize the inherent contradiction in these positions.

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Speaker 2: So well, my ultimate favorite contradiction is the amount of

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oil based lubricants it takes to run a single one

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of those big, umongous windmills.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, once again you're applying logic to politics,

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and those are usually incompatible. Yeah, Jim, I appreciate it.

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I appreciate it, all right, Man, take it easy. That's

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that's Jim there. Yeah, And this is the challenge, Like

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you've got to drive prices down incomes up, house prices down, right,

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people have to feel enthusiastic about their economic position. That's

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and that's going to be on Trump and the Republicans.

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And they got you know, they got one year to

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do it. And I won't even mention the tariffs. Well,

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I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to

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do it. I want to shift to climate because it's

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connected here, right, Is the climate grift collapsing? Is the

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headline by David Strom at hotair dot com. Is the

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climate grift collapsing. Okay, well, first off, no, okay, it's not.

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But he says peak climate is behind us. This is

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what he this is his assessment. Okay. He believes that

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we are now moving past the catastrophism and the hysteria

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that climate change is going to kill us all. And

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he sites the new found position of one Bill Gates,

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Microsoft founder purveyor of climate alarmism, and he wrote the

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other day there is a doomsday view of climate change

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that goes like this, In a few decades, cataclysmic climate

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change will decimate civilization. The evidence is all around us.

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Just look at the heat waves and storms caused by

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rising global temperatures. Nothing matters more than limiting the rise

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in temperature, he says, Fortunately for all of us, this

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view is wrong. Bill Gates says, this has Bill Gates

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seen the light. Has Bill Gates reversed himself based on

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studying and researching and looking at the evidence. Or maybe

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he's looking at AI and the power needs of AI,

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and so we're going to need AI a lot more.

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We're gonna have to make a lot more power, and

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so maybe we are going to have to do the

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old Indiana Jones swapping out the totem for the bag

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of sand thing you know, and swap out climate A

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for for AI for power generation. So here's the shift.

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This is the thing. And to Jim's point in the call,

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like you do have to just sit back and admire

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the audacity, the shamelessness, you know, of being able to

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just completely abandon something that you held a belief, you

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held a position or an argument to just immediately drop

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it and move on to the thing that's going to

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win you the power right now. It is pretty it's

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Here's a text from somebody with the last name that's French.

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The majority of energy companies who built solar and wind

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projects received huge tax right offs to do it, Otherwise

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it would not have been cost effective. An example is

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Duke Energy in Warsaw, North Carolina. Warsaw or Waxaw anyway,

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Duke got twenty million dollars tax right off on that

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one project. It's a Democrat scam. Yeah, always has been.

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From Dennis Pete. You are killing me with the prophet Mamdani,

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Peace be upon him. Very funny, uh, Jeff, is affordability

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like votainer? No, it is not. Votainer is actually a thing. No. Now,

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I would love votainer to be a campaign slogan. If

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somebody were to run on a platform of normalizing the

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word votainer, I would vote for that person, no matter

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their politics. That's how in the tank I am for

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the campaign to legitimize the word votainer. Yeah, pretty deep

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in the tank, is what I'm saying. Yeah, so, David

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Strom says or sorry, No, this is from Bill Gates.

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Bill Gates writing at gatesnoes dot com, which I guess

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this is website, saying that the view of cataclysmic climate change,

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this view is wrong. Although climate change will have serious consequences,

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particularly for people in the poorest countries, it will not

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lead to humanity's demise. People will be able to live

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and thrive in most places on Earth for the foreseeable future.

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Emissions projections have gone down, and with the right policies

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and investments, innovation will allow us to drive emissions down

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much further. Unfortunately, the doomsday outlook is causing much of

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the climate community to focus too much on near term

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emissions goals, and it's diverting resources from the most effective

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things we should be doing to improve life in a

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warming world, like AI. Everybody, Am I right? Or am

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I right? Right?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Okay, he didn't say that last part about AI. But

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that's what this is about, David Strom, and he and

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I share the same sort of opinion on the climate change.

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I don't deny climate change. Climate changes, right. I equate

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it often in an analogy to your oven or your refrigerator,

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or your air conditioning unit or your heating unit. Right.

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You have a temperature that you set it at, but

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it does not stay at that temperature. It goes above it,

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and then it goes below it. And then when it

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goes too low, if you're trying to heat the place,

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if it drops too low, it'll then fire up and

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raise that temperature back up. It'll go a little bit

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above and then it'll cut off, and then it'll come

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back down. And that's the idea. It's not a constant level.

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And this is one of the things that kills me

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about the climate alarmists. Is they think that there is

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some optimal temperature for the entire globe and that if

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somehow or other, you know, we can capture all the

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cowfarts that will maintain this static temperature. But I don't

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know if you're aware of this or not, but the

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globe is a pretty big place. Like it's really big.

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Like you couldn't even walk around it in like a week.

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It's really really large. And so I think it's a

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fatal conceit. It's this hubris of man to think that

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the stuff that we are doing is going to destroy

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this entire massive rock floating through space. That's not to

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say that I think we should go out and actively,

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you know, pollute and make our air dirtier and all that.

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There are all sorts of reasons why we shouldn't do that.

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But this idea that like, oh, if you don't think

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global warming is as catastrophic as I say it is,

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then you're a climate change denier. I'm not a denier

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in climate change. I am just looking at the balance sheet, right,

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I'm looking at the trade offs, pros and cons, costs, benefits,

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all of that stuff. And if you're going to tell

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me that we have to impoverish America and the developed world,

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and we have to keep in poverty the third world. Meanwhile,

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bad actors that don't give a fly in fig Newton

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about the planet. They get to just race ahead building

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a coal power plant a day in China. Well, the

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no like that. That's not a good, that's not a

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cost benefit return, you know. So he says, I don't

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know whether to whether and to what extent human beings

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are impacting the climate. But I don't think that the

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hypothesis that we are impacting the climate. I don't think

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it's insane. What I do think is insane are the

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claims that the science and data says that we are

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doomed or even particularly threatened. The data sucks, it's manipulated,

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The models are ridiculous, and the science is following the money,

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and the money is huge, as in trillions of dollars

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a year. Climate alarmism has been a gold rush for

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many and a power grab for everybody in the transnational

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elite or folite as I call them. The more horrifying

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the stories they can concoct, the more money and power

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they can grab. There are far more pressing problems in

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the world, including hunger, disease, poverty, and the enduring lack

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of resilience to natural disasters. You know, spending trillions of

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dollars on cutting CO two emissions every year, that's not

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going to solve any of these problems that he just listed, right,

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and it doesn't make any impact on human well being,

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either now or in the future. A few hundred million

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wiping a few hundred million dollars that we could spend

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wiping out mosquitoes in tropical climates. That'll actually do more

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to improve human life spans and well being than a

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few trillions spent on reducing CO two by some marginal percentage.

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But that's not my point, he says, Well, what is

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his point, Pete, glad you asked? I will tell you

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in a moment. All right, if you're listening to this show,

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you know I try to keep up with all sorts

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of current events, and I know you do too. And

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you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources.

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more transparent. David strowm at hot air dot com where

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I left it in a cliffhanger before the break there.

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You know what is his point of this piece that

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he wrote is the climate grift collapsing. He says, O

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obviously rational arguments have made no impact on the climate

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quote unquote debate over the past few decades, and they

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surely won't now with the people who lie awake at

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night wondering what Greta Thunberg would do. These are not

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rational people. Here's the thing. People are losing interest in

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the issue, and the stasis in European economies is giving

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members in the transnational fau elite, at least on this

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side of the Atlantic, it's giving them pause. Right. We

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see you, Germany, We see what's happening. You guys shut

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down all your nuclear reactors and now you're buying oil

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from the Russians while you while you're chastising them for

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launching their war against Ukraine, giving them the leverage to

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turn off your oil if you get too far out

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of line. So yeah, that's not a good spot to

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be and know. And meanwhile, the price of heating your

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home in Germany has become prohibitively expensive. So we see you.

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What was good for business aka the climate grift is

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now not so good for business. See. Energy crises in

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Europe will soon enough lead to the fall of governments

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and the rise of populism, as has happened in the

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US with Trump. The idiocy of climate alarmists has been

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obvious to anybody who paid attention for years, and it's

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infuriating that people like us have to fight against disastrous

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policies for years or decades before we are proven right.

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We don't even get thanks or credit for being right,

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and the idiots don't get punished for being perpetually wrong.

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It's like COVID, it's forgiven. Forget with these foletes. Imagine

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if we had built one hundred more nuclear power plants

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or two hundred since the eighties. Imagine. But no, the

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fearmongers stopped us, and the result is that we have

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spent decades trying to restart an industry that we killed

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for no reason other than alarmism. See it's not until

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the damage is done and is obvious and the bill

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is outrageously high. It's only then that people who made

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all of those mistakes, who led the charge on all

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this garbage, it's only then that they move on. Now

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his colleague at hot air dot com, Stephen Moore, former

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Trumpet senior economic advisor, co founder of Unleash Prosperity. He

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says some conservatives have snuffed that Gates has shifted his

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position on climate change because he and Microsoft have invested

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heavily in energy intensive data centers. Yes, that is why

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I believe Bill Gates is now saying what he's saying.

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What Gates has done, though Stephen Moore says is courageous

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and praiseworthy. There are not many people of his stature

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who will admit that they are wrong. I don't know.

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I didn't see that he admitted he was wrong. But

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but okay, I guess he's changing course and maybe others will.

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We'll fall in line behind him now that you know

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the permission structure is erected, and maybe you know the

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preference cascade kicks in. Okay, right, that might be good.

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Countries should be encouraged to grow their economies, said Gates,

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even if that means a reliance on fossil fuels like

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natural gas. Oh my goodness. Economic growth is essential to

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human progress. And here's the other thing. Economic growth is

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also how you guard against the disasters that Mother Nature

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inflicts upon human beings. That's how you save people's lives.

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When you become wealthy enough and advanced enough that you

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can build systems and housing and infrastructure to protect as

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many people as possible from the climate change, which, by

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the way, this is based on some modeling, so m yeah,

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I'm not really I'm not really putting all of my

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eggs or any eggs actually into this basket, but New

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York Post has a headline climate scientists claim the Gulf

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Stream could be near collapse. The Golf Stream predicting a

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new ice age. So yeah, because the polarized caps are

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melting and then the cold water goes into what's called

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a marine hot pocket, which sounds delicious, and it goes

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in there and then it cools down the Gulf Stream

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and then that's going to cause an ice age. So

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all this time we've been worried about the global warring

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and it's actually an ice age, which actually people were

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predicting like back in the seventies, but then they change

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it to global warring and now they're back onto Like

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I feel like I am trapped in like I'm trapped

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in an enclosed space with somebody who just keeps looking

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at the hourly weather forecast telling me I need to

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put a jacket on and take it off. All right,

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that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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for listening. I could not do the show without your

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