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I'm Tom Gresham and this is gun Talk, 11 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:36.799 and you can give me a call right now at 12 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:39.520 Tom Talk Gun We are talking well about a lot 13 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:42.159 of things, but one of the things we're discussing right 14 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:46.039 now is the murders that took place in Twin Falls, 15 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:50.159 Idaho yesterday. As we're talking on Sunday, guy with an 16 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:53.520 AR starts shooting through windshields. He's in a parking lot 17 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:58.039 of an in and out burger place, and while everybody 18 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:02.359 else is shooting video him, one guy is shooting bullets 19 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:08.079 at the bad guy. A guy named Jordan's Salinis decided 20 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:09.799 he would shoot back. It looks like he's got an 21 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:13.680 FN five point seven twenty eight pistol with a suppressor 22 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:18.400 on it. You're shooting back at this guy. We have 23 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:20.879 more holes in the story than we have fillers. We 24 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:24.120 don't know a lot, or we don't know if Jordan 25 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:28.280 Silinis actually hit the bad guy or if he's merely 26 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:30.680 distracted him, which I say merely, which is not fair, 27 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:32.840 because if you're distracting him, you're getting him to stop 28 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:36.760 shooting good people and maybe turn his attention back to 29 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:42.079 whoever's shooting at him. The bad guy is dead. The 30 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:45.959 police have not told us who shot him. Was it 31 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:47.560 the good guy who shot him, was the police who 32 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:51.359 shot him? Or did the guy just off himself he 33 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:54.400 quit suicide. Don't know. We'll know more in a day 34 00:01:54.480 --> 00:01:58.280 or two. There are lessons to be learned here about preparation, 35 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:02.280 carrying and being willing frankly and trying me to talk 36 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:04.480 about that a guy who teaches this stuff, Clark a 37 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:08.360 potion out of Utah Clark. I know that this is 38 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:11.039 just now happening. We're trying to make sense of it, 39 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:14.400 and there's danger involved in trying to draw conclusions. But still, 40 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:18.159 this this is quite the case study, isn't it. 41 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:21.960 It absolutely is, Tom, and you know Twin Falls has 42 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.879 been known as a somewhat sleepy town, but you know 43 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:27.479 it's about three hours north of me and don't know 44 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:31.719 how many hours south of you, But you don't expect that, 45 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:34.800 but nowadays you have to. And the things that you 46 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:39.080 have said are so important to understand, especially what you 47 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:41.879 just said in that what if he didn't hit him, 48 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:48.199 but he distracted him, and incoming fire always has that 49 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:50.840 right of way, and even the bad guy, even the murderer, 50 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:54.520 knows that, and he may have hesitated if he wasn't 51 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:58.879 hit by him by Jordan, And I'm glad you don't 52 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:02.199 mention the shooter's name, but we mentioned names like Jack 53 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:05.960 Wilson one shot in Texas. He took out the bad guy, 54 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:11.719 Elijah Dicken in Indiana engaged the person from what was 55 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:13.080 it forty yards away in. 56 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:14.800 A mall, yep and engaged him. 57 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:22.280 So yeah, at the very least it distracted him and 58 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:23.599 probably saved lives. 59 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.199 So the other thing that I'm going back. 60 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:29.919 On stuff that you've already taked Tom in that you 61 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:32.199 have a gun. You always have a gun, and you're 62 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:34.400 typically when you're out in a situation like that in 63 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.240 a mall area or something like that, or driving around 64 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:41.240 in and out, you're in your vehicle, where is your gun? 65 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:42.800 Is it on your hip or is it in your 66 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:46.840 fancy little magnetic hold or something like that. If you 67 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:49.520 have to jump out of the car, you don't have 68 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:52.400 your gun. So if it's on you, you have your 69 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:55.560 gun and you can engage, and you know, you fight 70 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:57.639 with what you got. It'd be great if you had 71 00:03:57.639 --> 00:04:02.400 that PCC, but if you just have a handgun, then 72 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:03.639 you do with. 73 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:04.080 What you can. 74 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:08.400 There's some tactics and some things that we do. In fact, 75 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:12.280 this brings me back to range Ready, a regular range, 76 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:16.079 flat range, dirt firms. This kind of stuff. They don't 77 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:19.000 do the kind of stuff that places like. And this 78 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:21.240 is not an advertisement from range Ready, so you can 79 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:24.879 do what you want, but they kind of inoculate you 80 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:30.879 for real world scenarios, good guy bad guy type stuff. 81 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:34.199 What's behind what's behind your shooter? 82 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:35.279 If you miss her? 83 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:38.879 It over penetrates right, and simple things like that. 84 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:42.319 Well, you know, and I would direct people to the 85 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.120 series we've been doing for seventeen years now, the First 86 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:48.639 Person Offender series. It's on YouTube and it's you know, 87 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:50.800 what do you do when? What do you do if 88 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:53.600 how do you handle situations. It's just it's an eye 89 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:57.319 opener and a thought provoker. But let me go back 90 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:00.040 to your thought of Yeah, if the gun is on you, 91 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:02.240 you will have it when you bail out of the car. Now, 92 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:03.879 maybe you have time to go back to the trunk 93 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:06.759 and get something. Maybe maybe maybe you don't. Maybe you 94 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:08.800 got to get out of your car and boogie, in 95 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:11.199 which case you want to have it on you. Clark, 96 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:15.639 one of the things I was thinking about is I 97 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:19.480 love little batty guns because they're so comfortable and so 98 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:22.199 easy to carry. And you know, there's nothing like a little 99 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:24.959 jframe or a little and the Smith Western Bodyguard two 100 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:27.519 point zero is a great pistol, a little three eighty, 101 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:30.199 and it has its place. But at the same time, 102 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.319 I always think about they're easy to carry, and they're 103 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:34.800 small when you carry in, but you know, when you 104 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.319 pull it out to use it, it's small then too. 105 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:40.560 And then I think, you know, but what am I 106 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:43.600 going to want to have in my hand if I 107 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:45.480 need it when I need it more than anything in 108 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:48.319 the world. It's my parachute. It's the fire exting experience, 109 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:51.959 the thing that lets me keep breathing. I'm gonna want 110 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:53.240 something big enough to do. 111 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.199 The job exactly. 112 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.040 And you know, I think that comes down to why 113 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:00.120 do people choose these teeny little guns to carry. It's 114 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.800 because their choice of holster for their real gun isn't 115 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:05.920 appropriate or is uncomfortable. 116 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:07.920 And you have. 117 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:11.040 A box of holsters. Some are great, some are not 118 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:13.519 good at all, and that's why they're in the box. 119 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:16.879 So you find a holster that fits you that you 120 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:21.240 don't mind carrying all that gun, that ten mil or 121 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:24.120 that nine mil, that mid size gun that you don't 122 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:29.399 mind carrying everywhere. And I think that's why people gravitate 123 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:31.639 to those teeny little guns, because they can put them 124 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:34.240 in their pocket and it's not a big deal. You 125 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:36.920 find a good holster and a technique for carrying it, 126 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:40.040 and I think you can you can alleviate some of 127 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:42.680 those desires to go with the TEDA gun. 128 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:48.800 You discover that when you go to a multi day 129 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:52.480 class and you're drawing and you're shooting, and you're putting 130 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:54.959 the gun back in your holster and now you're five 131 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:57.519 yards and seven yards and fifteen yards and twenty five 132 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:01.480 yards and you're going, I just ran out of gun here, 133 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:04.639 and you're thinking this is not going to get it, 134 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:08.399 but you have to put yourself into a situation which 135 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:11.560 you know, Clark, you and I sound like broken records 136 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:13.319 when we keep saying you gotta go get training, and 137 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:15.439 people go yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, but I want 138 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:17.079 to go buy a new shiny gun. You go yeah, 139 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:19.279 and you and I keep saying your next gun really 140 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:20.680 ought to be a class I'm just. 141 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:25.399 Telling you, yeah, I mean, and the training will open 142 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:27.360 your eyes to things you didn't think about. In an 143 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:31.279 engagement like this, there's other people around, innocent people that 144 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:33.279 are trying to escape being shot and that type of thing. 145 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:37.680 What do you do if your front site, rear sight 146 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:41.120 is right on the bad guy, but directly behind them 147 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:45.800 and maybe ten yards fifty yards behind them are innocent people. 148 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:46.519 Yeah. 149 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:49.680 We have that exact type of scenario in a No 150 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:52.480 King shooting two years ago in Salt Lake City where 151 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:58.399 a quote unquote peacekeeper engaged a supposed bad guy and 152 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:03.720 ended up shooting somebody blocks away, killing. And there's a 153 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:06.040 simple technique I'll just I'll throw it out there that 154 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:08.120 you get with training, that you get with good training, 155 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:10.800 like I could range ready other places like that, you 156 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:14.240 drop down to one knee and engage. What does that 157 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:17.120 do that causes your You still hit your target, but 158 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:20.720 if it misses that bullet is continuously the farther it 159 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.800 goes climbing at an angle over and above other people's heads. 160 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:26.920 So yes, you know things like that. 161 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.079 Take that idea and say okay, but if that involves 162 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:31.839 is moving Okay. The other thing you can do. You 163 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:34.679 can move left and right, you can change the backstop. 164 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:37.639 Maybe the backstop becomes a brick wall. If you move 165 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:40.600 three feet you're right. Or if you've got people moving 166 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:43.679 around and you can't get a clear shot, maybe what 167 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:45.600 you have to do. This is something you ought to 168 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.399 work on in training. Maybe you need to move forward, 169 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:51.240 moving through people so you can get to a point 170 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:53.879 where you have a clear shot. Once again, people say, 171 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:56.000 well I never thought of that. Yeah, I know. That's 172 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:57.360 why we go do this stuff. 173 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:01.120 That's why the training, that's why training. You get that 174 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:04.720 and it'll help you inoculate. Because I firmly believe there 175 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:07.919 are some people. There are people that are just wired differently, 176 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:10.120 and sometimes you never know how you're wired. 177 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:11.720 Are you going to be one of those people that's 178 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:13.159 going to. 179 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:16.919 Escape, evade, hide, or are you going to be one 180 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:20.080 of those people like Jordan, like Jack Wilson, michae Elijah Dickon, 181 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:25.200 who said, no, I'm wired differently. I'm going to resist 182 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:27.759 that urge of self preservation. I'm going to engage the 183 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:30.480 bad guy. I'm going to at least distract him, if 184 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:34.399 not take him out, because we all know law enforcement 185 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.600 will arrive. They'll arrive with hundreds of officers and helicopters 186 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:41.879 and dogs and m wraps and everything. It doesn't make 187 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:45.600 any difference the size of that response if the killing 188 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:46.600 has already been done. 189 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:51.080 Yeah, and it is the stopwatch of death. The sooner 190 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:55.399 you stop the killing, the more lives you save. One 191 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:57.600 last thing. And I ask you this, and this is 192 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:00.519 kind of a personal thing, Clark. I know every day 193 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:02.120 when you leave the house, you got a gun on 194 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:05.559 what goes through your mind each day when you put 195 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:06.480 on your pistol. 196 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:08.320 That's a good question. 197 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:09.919 Two things. 198 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:12.759 I'm going to continue my way of life. I will 199 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:16.159 do whatever I have to to continue my way of life. 200 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:19.320 And I'm going to get back home safely. If that 201 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:23.360 means that I escape or of aid to get back home, 202 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:26.559 I will do that. If it means engaging a bad 203 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:30.840 guy and putting them down, disabling them, or in fact 204 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:33.080 ending their life. I will do what it takes to 205 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:34.559 get back home every day. 206 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:39.679 There it is. And the last part I always add 207 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:42.279 is and you don't say that may happen today you 208 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:44.399 start off, I say today is the day it's going 209 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:46.799 to happen. So you've already made that decision. You know 210 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:48.440 what's going to happen, so you're not surprised wh going 211 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:52.240 to happen. And that really decreases your reaction time. 212 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:55.799 See Tom. 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Hey, Ron, 264 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:31.480 you got a mess in Colorado, now, don't you? 265 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:37.159 Yes, my bags, old tongue, My listen is has the 266 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:40.440 State of Colorado overstepped its boundary on the Second Amendment 267 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:45.200 because they are requiring us to take not only a 268 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:48.879 class to how to operate the weapon, regardless of what 269 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:53.960 it is, and it's a month long deal. Is that 270 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:57.240 infringement on our Second Amendment? Right? Or do they have 271 00:14:57.279 --> 00:14:59.240 the right to say you can't do this and they 272 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:01.279 won't let you buy it gun until you do this. 273 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:06.480 It's a brand new law just went into effect. And yes, 274 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:08.919 of course it's an infringement. The question is are they 275 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:10.440 going to be able to get away with it? And 276 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:13.240 we don't know that until we challenge it in the courts. 277 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:17.480 Clearly the lawsuits are coming, and look, and I want 278 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:20.120 people to understand, this is what we are going to 279 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:24.360 have in a number of states. Once the Supreme Court 280 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:28.759 rules next June that the states cannot ban AR fifteen, 281 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:31.399 so cannot ban semi automatic rifles, the states will go, 282 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:35.399 oh okay, we can't ban the sale of them. But 283 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.399 what we do is we can require you to take 284 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:40.559 a twelve hour course, or a twenty five hour course, 285 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:45.320 or a four hundred hour course before you are able 286 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:48.879 to buy one, making it completely impossible or at the 287 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:52.840 very least incredibly difficult and expensive. The idea of being 288 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:55.200 that we'll just replace one band with another kind of ban, 289 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:57.679 and then we'll have to go back and challenge that. 290 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:02.000 I have a hope. I don't think it'll happen. But 291 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:06.200 when the Supreme Court rules on the Viamonte's case, which 292 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:09.000 is the AR fifteen ban case, and we're going to 293 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:13.120 get that ruling next June, that they put into that 294 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:15.639 because they can see what's going on in California and 295 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:19.120 Colorado and other places. They can see these kind of 296 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:22.840 barriers that are being thrown up. Wouldn't it be nice if, 297 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:25.279 in their decision, when they say you cannot ban the 298 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:29.919 sale of AR fifteen's, and you also cannot put these 299 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:35.480 terrible restrictive requirements to say, yeah, you can buy one, 300 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:38.679 but only after you take these long classes that cost 301 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:41.759 you all this money. I don't know that that could 302 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.240 happen if it's not been brought up in the case, 303 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:48.600 but I would hope. But bottom line to my long 304 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:50.919 way around to answer your question is yes, it's clearly 305 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:54.200 an infringement on our Second Amendment rights, and clearly it 306 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:57.039 will be challenged in the courts. What happens in courts 307 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:01.080 is always a crapshoot, you never know. But watching keep 308 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:04.319 it posted. I appreciate it and thank you for the call, sir. Uh, Well, 309 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:06.759 let's stay in Colorado with line five, shawns with us 310 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:08.799 out of loans in Colorado. You got a ranger for 311 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:10.039 it for us, Seawn, talk to me. 312 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:16.480 Hey, Tom, I've called you before, and I'm a SIG fanboy. 313 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:21.440 And Murdos was running a special, uh two weeks ago 314 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:29.000 for a P three twenty compact with five magazines and 315 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:35.960 a Savior equipment which equipment bag which they make superior 316 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:37.839 range bags. 317 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:39.680 And I just took it. 318 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:45.759 To the range yesterday and it shot for four hundred 319 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:48.519 Let me let me back up for four hundred and 320 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:50.279 fifty nine dollars. 321 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:52.480 Wow, I got this gun. 322 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:58.279 Five magazines and each SIG magazine. 323 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:59.200 Is fifty dollars apiece. 324 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.920 And you know, you know what's going on. You know 325 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:06.720 why they're selling so cheap because they have to because 326 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:07.920 people don't want them anymore. 327 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:12.680 Well, you know what, I have five sig P three 328 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:18.079 twenties and I have never had one issue, not one, 329 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:19.519 and I carry them all the time. 330 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:21.079 Okay, not one. 331 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:26.440 And this thing, I've never had a compact and it's simple. 332 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:29.039 It's the basic grip. 333 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:35.039 Model, right, and it just runs like a sewing machine. 334 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:40.799 And I was I was getting at seven yards a 335 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:41.680 two inch group? 336 00:18:43.799 --> 00:18:45.839 Well the trigger. 337 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:47.880 Is are you going to carry it? 338 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:53.680 I am, yes, absolutely, I just I just ordered an 339 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:57.000 alien gear inside the waistband holster for it. 340 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:00.599 Okod do you have an optic on it? 341 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:03.799 No, but it's optics ready. 342 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:05.640 You can take two screws out of the. 343 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:08.240 Top and put a Romeo on it. 344 00:19:08.279 --> 00:19:09.920 And I'm thinking I'm. 345 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:10.480 Going to do that. 346 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:14.599 Do you have optics on any of your other pistols? 347 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:18.400 I don't, and this one is the easiest one to 348 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:22.359 swap out an optic to put an optic on, and 349 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:26.599 I'm I'm going to probably take the time to put 350 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:28.880 one on there and get familiar with it. 351 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:33.160 So I can just point and shoot. 352 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:36.000 Can I can? I Are you okay with me giving 353 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:36.920 you a tip on that? 354 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:38.400 Yes? 355 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:38.920 Please? 356 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:42.119 That's why I listened to your show for wisdom. 357 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:47.279 Okay, what you about your optic completely unloaded gun? No 358 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:51.160 m more around the drill. Of course, the challenge is 359 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:53.119 to be able to draw and press out and find 360 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:56.079 the dot because we typically go out and now we're 361 00:19:56.079 --> 00:19:58.200 waving the barrel around trying to find the dot and 362 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:01.799 all that, and it's it's not great. Do it the 363 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:06.599 opposite way. Start with the gun out again loaded. We're 364 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:09.920 doing dry firework here, you know, two hand grip and 365 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:17.160 you're looking through the dot. Now slowly reholster, figure straight 366 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:19.640 and go back to the holster. Okay, ye, now come 367 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:21.920 back out, get on the target. All right, you're gonna 368 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:23.599 do everything in reverse. You're gonna start with the dot 369 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:24.920 on the target and then come back and put it 370 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:27.279 in the holster. Get back on the target, then put 371 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:29.839 it but got back on the holster. Now you just slowly, 372 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:31.880 don't work on this vest and then you start working 373 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:33.880 with you pressing out and you can see the dot. 374 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:35.559 And you can once you see the dot, you go 375 00:20:35.599 --> 00:20:39.200 back to the holster. You're drilling the motion of coming 376 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:41.920 from the holster out to where you can see the dot. 377 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:44.160 But you're doing it and reverse to make sure you 378 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:47.440 start by looking at the dot instead of pressing out 379 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:49.680 and then trying to find it waving the gun all around, 380 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:52.359 you will find if you can do a couple of 381 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:54.920 hundred reps like that, or starting with the dot on 382 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:57.599 the target, coming back and going to the holster and 383 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:00.599 ice and slow and drilling that motion, I think it's 384 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:04.279 going to greatly accelerate your progress to being able to 385 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:06.480 use that not well well. 386 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:11.319 And I have a Mantis X and it clamps onto 387 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.440 the picatinny rail under your barrel, and I know they 388 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:21.799 have red dot drills for that, and I. 389 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:23.920 Think that and that's been my. 390 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:27.720 Biggest hesitation to put a red dot on anything. But 391 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:30.359 a buddy of mine swears by it because he shoots 392 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:35.960 competitive pistol and he uses a red dot and he's like, dude. 393 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:38.000 You got to get with the twenty first century. 394 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:38.400 Man. 395 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:41.200 Yeah, you know, And most of people who tell you 396 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:45.079 that are competition shooters and not guys who carry. So 397 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:48.559 I'm just going to tell you do it and drill 398 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:51.640 on it, but be skeptical and don't be real quick 399 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:54.640 to adopt that as your carry gun until you are 400 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:58.960 really really sure that every single time without fail, when 401 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:01.079