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us at ESPN The Fan. We got a ton of

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news and notes to get your recruiting news. BYU is

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couple of prospects that we can break down today here

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on your Utah ESPN Ready Network. We got to delve

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into the Holy War win up at the Huntsman Center.

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Why does it seem that Utah brings their A game

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and only their A game against BYU. Last year, the

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best performance from the University of Utah under Craigsmith was

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at the Huntsman Center versus p YU. It was also

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their It was their best win and their best performance.

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I'm wondering, will that what we witnessed on Saturday is

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that Utah's best effort, best performance all season long?

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Speaker 3: Or do they get better?

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Speaker 1: Do they have a win that's better than a lost,

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a close loss.

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Speaker 3: To BYU on their home court.

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Speaker 1: Do they actually get wins of value in the Big

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Twelve this year or was that their last hurrah for

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the season. Will they trend in the right direction? They

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have some good players, there's no doubt. But they were

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on fire and they you look at the statistical outputs,

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the efficiency metrics, and it's no doubt in my mind

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up to this point in the season, Utah gave their

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best effort versus BYU at.

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Speaker 3: The Huntsman Center.

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Speaker 1: Weil Devin and that will get into a ton of

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we get into it. Let's fired up ESPN, the fan

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co host and the rest of the star stud of

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Cats joining us for this Monday, January twelt the edition

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of Cougar Sports Behind the Glass in Salt Lake City.

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He was at the Huntsman Center. He got to witness

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first hand the chants that came from BYU fans. I

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heard it was about sixty forty sixty Utah fens forty

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BYU fans and the Go Cougars BYU. Cougar's chance rained

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down on poor Morgan Scalley, the head coach at the

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University of Utah, and it was a catalyst for him

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to say, muss raise up, let's go where's the where's

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splash mountain at when you need it? Let's welcome in, Ronald.

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The three man were to discuss it already.

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Speaker 4: How you living I'm living good. Yeah, there was all

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manner of chance. Morgan Scalley had that chanted of the

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let's go Cougars. Some people may not like that he welcomed.

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Speaker 5: In, but he also called this the greatest robbery for

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basketball and for football in all of I guess college

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athletics and sports out there. They also chanced Ben Michigan

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nasty rivaly things are not said and I heard stuff

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from fans from by you walking around more Utah not

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good stuff. Man, It's just it's this is a this

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is a nasty one and back and with football, ben

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Speaker 1: For those that were in attendance. What did you make

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of the Morgan Scylly speech and subsequent Let's go Cougar's chance?

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Give me your thoughts on Twitter at crittle Benjamin. Let's

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also welcome into the show, Brett. Always bring the hammer

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Speaker 3: There were too many sports on Saturday, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: No, there's never too many sports any because I clever.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to watch I was trying to watch

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the end of the Packers Chicago game and I thought

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that one was over, and then somehow the Bears stormed back.

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Bears are rolling. The Bears ended up winning. So I

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of the Utah game. And I'm happy with the NFL playoffs.

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I love collegewall playoffs. I love the out men's basketball.

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But it's just it's so much going on. I don't

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have You didn't have it. You didn't have enough screens.

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I didn't have enough screens that I need.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't that there was too many sports, you

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didn't have enough screens. Well, I know you need to invest.

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I know, and either either you know what we've done.

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actually you can check it out. It's actually pretty cool.

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so you can you can watch whatever you want want,

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you can stream whatever you want there, and you can

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but like because I can do this with Sunday Ticket

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ESPN app, And I know this violates a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: That's why we'll never get it. But what I need,

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and maybe Exfinity has I don't know, But what I

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need is I just need to be able to take

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the channels that I'm watching and put them in the

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boxes that I want, because I'll tell you, there is

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nothing better than Sunday morning. I have my NFL Sunday

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look at the whole thing. I don't have to switch

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from app to app. So I don't know how I

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need to fix that. Maybe there's fans listening who could

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tell me. But I'm grateful that I was able to

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end up finishing with watching the bou basketball Utah game. However,

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game on streaming and you didn't watch the game on Twitter, man,

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you missed out on a lot of goods stuff because

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a lot of the good stuff that came from that

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game all happened off the court. Like in case you

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missed it, the muss I think it's spelled ssum if

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it wrong, they did it up a second time, spelled

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it wrong. So I don't know if it's the muss anymore.

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had that, you had again the Morgan scaley BYU chance. Man,

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if you were a BYU fan and you got to

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be in the building for that one. What an electric environment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. There was plenty to criticize

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their look, I am great. But what I take away

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from that is the our game day experience, right, and

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the familiarity of the game day experience for everyone involved,

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the fan, the student, the administrator, the coaches, the players,

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everyone involved. They all know what to expect and we

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executed a high level.

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Speaker 3: You could tell there was a little bit of.

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Speaker 1: Unfamiliarity, uh there at the that was there these This

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was the It's like what Rob right the third set

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in the post game. Last time I was here when

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he was playing for Baylor. There were no fans here,

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so it was a little bit different. It was a

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wild rocker. So they don't do this all the time.

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They don't really are unfamiliar up for these games. It's

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not their faults.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My brother was there, said it was a great atmosphere,

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but he did point out a number of the faux pause,

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a number of the the lack of continuity there at

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the Huntsman Center ron.

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Speaker 3: What was up the ring around the rosie at mid court.

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I don't I didn't understand, like the fans and the

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cheerleaders running around.

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Speaker 4: The weird tradition that Utah does.

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Speaker 5: And look, I thought Ben we as byu those they

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graduated from that and members of the church.

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Speaker 4: I thought we had weird traditions.

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Speaker 5: But man, I'm watching this as a media member and

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I was just confused. And then it went from confused

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as I see fans coming down the slide on the

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court or whoever the personnel that was asked a part too,

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and I just felt sad. I was just like, this

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is just this is gonna sound so so harsh. But

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as a media member, you're still a fan of enjoying

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the festivities. You're not like, well, I'm critiquing this is

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immediate member. I don't get paid to critique the halftime performance.

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piss poor, This is bad. Like I'm sorry, I was like,

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we you have to if you are a BYU fan

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or but this is why those that have come to

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BYU football games and basketball games say it's one of

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the best atmospheres in college athletics, if not the best.

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Because what I saw on Saturday, I just I really

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felt bad for Utah fans. I felt bad for the donors,

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the fans that come out that support like they deserve better.

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Speaker 4: And there's definitely nothing.

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Speaker 5: So anytime you want to critique BYU of maybe what

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doesn't go well, I want you to think about that

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if you attended that game on Saturday, because there's nothing

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like the Marriotte Center going crazy and Wednesday they're gonna

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be back in is gonna be is gonna be glorious

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or Lavelle Edwards Stateium and new things that they've added.

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So don't take that for granted. That's all I'm saying,

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because when you start the travel and go it's different.

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Speaker 1: Look, I would say, Rice Ecles does it right. I've

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been to a number of games. They have their game

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to experience down. So, like I said, it was the

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lack of familiarity with what they're supposed to do when

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they're supposed to do it. They just don't show up

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to the games. It's just it was the biggest game

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of the season. It was their super Bowl. Unfortunately they

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fell to the Cougars, the Mighty Cougars of the South,

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eighty nine eighty four. We're gonna break it down what

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we saw, what we liked, what we disliked, what we

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want to see going forward with this BAU basketball team.

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They moved to fifteen and one on the season, three

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to zero Big twelve play and the Utes fall eight

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and eight overall and zero three and.

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Speaker 3: Big twelve play.

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Speaker 1: I think was it Ronald or was it Brett that

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who said that they weren't going to win more than

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Speaker 3: Who was it that said that? Was it?

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Speaker 1: Four games?

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Speaker 3: Was that the threshold? Oh? For Utah? For Utah? I thought,

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Speaker 1: Ronald?

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Speaker 3: Do you remember that? Was it A?

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Speaker 4: It might have been Andrew Peters.

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Speaker 1: It was Andrew Peters, right?

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Speaker 3: Was Andrew?

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Speaker 1: And I like it?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Andrew has been known to be a bit of a

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profit of u of prognostications of all things football related

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's got a special knack for for his hot

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announced their comeback that they're they're they're coming back.

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Utah dot com so real quick? Uh? Behind Ritchie Sanders

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double double uh. The Cougars number nine now number eleven.

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I can't believe they fell from gray so quickly after

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beating Utah on their home court. It is what it is.

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Got the win and a thriller. It was truly a thriller.

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And it was at the John M. Huntsman Center. Whenever

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you win there is a BYU cougar, it means a lot.

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Richie Sanders hadn't got a win there, right, I mean, look,

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it's not an easy thing. Richie had twenty four points

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fourteen repounds. He made sure that he did not leave

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the Huntsman Center without a w. So, despite leading by

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thirteen midway through the second half, the Cougars had to

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fend off a Utah comeback. The yout just wouldn't go away,

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as the Utes cut the deficit to one with three

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fifteen remaining, rob Right the third and Saunders answered with

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clutch free throws and a basket from rob Right the

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third helped BYU maintain the league. The Cougars had four

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players score in double figures in Saunders right the third,

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aj De Bonsa in Keva Cada Keba brought some a

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game as well Saunders pace BYU obviously with the twenty four,

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he added three assists and one steal and just looked

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really good. Also with the second half, scoring seventeen of

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those twenty four, De Bonsa added an additional twenty points

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to extend his streak of twenty point games to nine,

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along with six rebounds, four assists, one block, and one steal.

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Cata contributed eleven points on five or six shooting BYU

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outshot you top fifty to forty six point two percent

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out rebounded forty one to thirty three, out assisted sixteen

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to fourteen, and out blocked four to three. Nice effort

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from this BYU men's basketball team. Before you get into

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the sound guys, Ronald, you run a ten, it's give

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me your breakdown, your summary of this game, what happened,

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why it happened, and more.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look, Alex Jensen said, Ajy Debonsa wasn't gonna beat him.

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They watched tape. Aj had twenty points. He still is

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on that rent. What is it twenty point or plus

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with scoring streak, So I think it's nine. Now I

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think Trey Young leads to the big twelve and eighteen

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if I'm correct. So they just gonna have a chance

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been to be at a match or break that still.

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But look, to me, this is very simple. Utah said,

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we're gonna make other people beat it, and that's exactly

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what happened.

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Speaker 4: But this is where the three headed dragon.

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Speaker 5: When you're gonna send two bodies of the AJA double

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team and they're gonna blitz him from you know, the

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weak side on the strong side and try to get

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the ball out of his hand.

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Speaker 4: It really trap.

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Speaker 5: I thought, honestly, they did a good job I have

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to give Utah credit.

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Speaker 4: I thought that game plan was good. It worked only

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for so long.

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Speaker 5: But to me, Ben, I will say this, and this

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is gonna BA offense might not like this, but I'm

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standing tent toes down and if I had more toes,

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I would add him to my feet.

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Speaker 4: I'm serious.

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Speaker 5: If Craig Smith was coaching that game, I think Utah

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wins that game at the end. I think Alex Jensen

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and being brand new and you're hearing the post game

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wide a valid they what I'm back, and I'm saying

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in a second, first time in the college basketball atmosphere,

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close game like that, didn't know what to do. And

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the reason why I bring it up just not defensively

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but offensively BYU. When they when they started missing free throws, Ben,

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and they missed six free throws down a stretch, and

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really that six adds up to ten because if you

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count the one day to put the game away, they

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were up thirteen at one point. So when I said

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twenty five, if they had hit the free throws, maybe

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they win the game by twenty. But no, they started bricking.

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They're shooting into the student section, and I thought when

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they gave Utah some life. With three minutes and fifteen

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seconds left, Utah took advantage of it, and I felt,

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if Kreksmith would have coached a game, maybe they have

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a chance to get that done because the same thing

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happened last year. Trevor, they'll miss his free throws, Utah

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comes in, gets it overtime, pulls away. But you gotta

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give you what you credit. And the guy I want

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to give credit the most is Will Voight. When Rob

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Wright hits these free throws, and I'm not gonna say

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because I'm watching the tendencies, but he yells something though,

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and they dropped from pressuring Utah into a one to

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three to one. And Alex Jensen in Utah was they

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were like a deer lost in headlights. They had no

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idea and they couldn't make adjustments. So whatever that defensive

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call was in that last three minutes threw them off.

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And that's what I thought kept the game in balance

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even with the miss free throws. Now I would love

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to see what Cregsmith would have done, but that's nor

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here nor there. But to me, I thought the difference

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was really BYU's defense. It wasn't even their offense because

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anytime you score eighty nine points in a game, you're

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gonna win it. But the defense is really what held

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up in my opinion, and I thought down the stretch

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they were phenomenal to have They're one of their best

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two guards, dribble into a trap in Kaiva and not

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foul a half canard and get them to turn the

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ball over. It was phenomenal, especially in the first thing

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I said on the pregame show, let me look to

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see who's officiating this game and won by the man

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names of Tony Padilla. I've never seen a goaltending call

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that was not supposed to be a goaltending call confirmed.

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I've never seen a confirm is on call. You're supposed

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to say challenge unsuccessful. But even through all that mayhem

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in a hostile environment, by you gets dubble. But to me,

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what I took away was the defense down the stretch,

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because that's what you pay coaches for, is clutch moments

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like that. It's not for the players to make playss

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for the coaches to execute the play to the players,

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right will communicated then they go execute it, and by

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you did that, and that's why they came out with

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the win.

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Speaker 1: Let's get through a couple of these sound bites. Kevin Young,

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you've talked about decision makings big to how Rob Wright

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made those decisions, those key decisions down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's got great.

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Speaker 6: Voice, you know, he's His decision making has been something

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that we've talked about a lot. You know, he had

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one turnover, he played almost played the entire game, so

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they were obviously doing a lot with AJ trying to

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get the ball out of his hands, and I can

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see why you would do that, but obviously we have

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a lot of guys on our team that can make place.

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Speaker 3: So Rob stepped up and delivered.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my initial convo with Ronald after the game, he

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was justs gushing about Rob right the third I mean,

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you brought in Rob right for a specific reason, right

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if if you you want a premiere point guard that

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can get to any place on the floor, create his

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own shot and create shots for others. I mean he's

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a bit of a bruiser too. When he gets into

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the paint, Like he can put a shoulder to you.

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He can beat you with quickness, or he can beat

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you with physicality, and it's fun to watch. It's a

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he's a freaking mongoose man. He is quick, he is agile,

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he is explosive, and very crafty with his pivot foot

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like he just is.

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Speaker 3: He's very crafty with it.

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Speaker 1: So shout out to Rob right the third making good

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decisions down the stretch and getting buckets where he needed.

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Richie the Todd King also was on point. Richie at

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fourteen fourteen rebounds, that's insane, it tying the career high.

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It seems like he was always in the perfect spot,

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especially on those offensive rebounds too. It seems like he

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was always in the right spot. He's got great vision

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and anticipatory instincts there on where the ball is gonna

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come off the rim. How effective was that to be

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able to get those rebounds and crunch times?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, Richie's will to win is just like

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nothing I've ever been around. You know, he wanted to

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we and he all wanted to get a win for

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him here his senior year, and you know.

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Speaker 4: He just he's possessed man in a good way.

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Speaker 6: He just wasn't gonna lose, bottom line.

475
00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:05,079
Speaker 1: Wasn't gonna lose the heart of a champion. The Todd

476
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,720
King has Richie Saunders love seeing that Kevin, how would

477
00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:11,920
you sum up how they made you play differently than

478
00:22:12,519 --> 00:22:15,720
you you really wanted to, and the free throw shooting

479
00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:18,480
at the end becoming a bit of an issue.

480
00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 6: Agree with you jay on that. I mean, there's no

481
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,640
scheme for making free throws. You step up and making

482
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,759
what you don't. I mean, it's a bottom line. So

483
00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:28,920
I trust all of our guys to make free throws

484
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,720
in big moments, and you know something that we just

485
00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:36,720
gotta continue to, you know, work on at which we will.

486
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,039
In terms of how they made us play, I mean, look,

487
00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:40,839
we had forty five points in the first half and

488
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,880
forty four in a second, so you know, I give

489
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,200
Alex credit. You know, that's was very NBA of him

490
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,880
to come out and just not let the best try

491
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,519
to not let the best player beat you. I thought

492
00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:53,559
AJ did a good job though was still final ways

493
00:22:53,599 --> 00:22:55,599
to get to his own spots get fathuly got to

494
00:22:55,599 --> 00:22:59,680
the line twelve times still, so you know, our other

495
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,480
guys really stepped up, and uh in terms of making

496
00:23:03,559 --> 00:23:05,720
us play a little bit different differently, in some ways

497
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,000
it helped us because now we're getting wide over the

498
00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:13,319
shots and.

499
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 3: There you go.

500
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: That's k why discussing uh, the issues with free throw shooting. Look,

501
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,400
you're in a hostile environment. I love that we've gone

502
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,960
through a bit of this uh this uh refining fire

503
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,440
like we I don't know if we've experienced anything like

504
00:23:25,519 --> 00:23:26,480
that this year.

505
00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: And we've struggled with free throws.

506
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: It's not like we've been a great free throw free

507
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,319
free throw shooting team by any means, But have we

508
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,319
really been in a sold out rockets environment with a

509
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,720
student section with their flag backwards and you're like, why

510
00:23:40,759 --> 00:23:42,920
is it backwards? I thought it was the muss it's

511
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,359
actually some and you're kind of distracted by everything. I

512
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,079
don't know if we have That was the first time

513
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,519
that maybe b YU has been in that type of environment.

514
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 3: How rough do you think the environment against Yukon was?

515
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean but it was still a new victual court.

516
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,519
But it wasn't their home course, so he didn't have

517
00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:04,759
like the student section you have, the band you didn't have,

518
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,680
you know what I mean? Like that to me, like

519
00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:09,279
is the closest maybe because it was in an NBA

520
00:24:09,319 --> 00:24:11,880
arena and it's close. It's way closer to Boston obviously

521
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,599
than it is. I'm sure those guys traveled, but if

522
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,680
I have to pick like the next closest because Utah

523
00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:22,079
is undoubtedly number one. That's probably the next closest one.

524
00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:24,400
But again, this is not only a rivalry game. You're

525
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,680
also or not only a road game.

526
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 3: You're in a rivalry big gall game where Utah shows

527
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,119
up and brings.

528
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: In and they're in C double A championship game because

529
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,000
that team most likely at least right now not trending

530
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,440
to be an NC double A tournament team. They're an

531
00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:43,680
NI team at best. Right now, they're an n T

532
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,359
bound team unless they really turn something down. Unless they

533
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,720
play like they did versus BYU on Saturday, that's the

534
00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:53,799
only way they're They're they're winning games this year because

535
00:24:53,839 --> 00:24:56,920
they put forth a fantastic effort. I don't think we've

536
00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:00,920
had a situation like it was Kansas State that way.

537
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,000
Was Kansas State that way, you don't have the rivalry element,

538
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,279
so to me, But like was it as wild and

539
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,400
raucous and it.

540
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 5: Was loud, But I don't think it was a Utah

541
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,319
like the way Utah was like, look, this is all

542
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,880
I have to say. And I and Bred and I

543
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,279
were talking about this, and I don't want to go

544
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:17,599
back too much into it. But when you're chanting naughty

545
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,799
things that happened, when you're barking and they're right next

546
00:25:20,839 --> 00:25:24,240
to the BYU bench beIN that doesn't happen, Like no

547
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:27,039
one in Kansas State cares like but people and you like,

548
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,960
that's what I'm saying, Like you're making extremely personal like

549
00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:32,799
it's it's more with Utah. But it's good to your

550
00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:34,960
point because you know why you know they go on Saturday,

551
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:38,359
Ben gonna go Lubbock. You think Lubbick. I think Lubbock's

552
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,279
up there with the Huntsman. I'm gonna be honest, Lubbock's

553
00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:41,559
a tough place to play. Do you know where they

554
00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:43,119
go at the end of the month, which is the

555
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,599
toughest place to play in my opinion, And they've gotten

556
00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:48,119
to win there in the Mark Pope era fog Allenfield House.

557
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 4: That's tough. That prepared them.

558
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,279
Speaker 5: You know where they're gonna go in about a month,

559
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,519
They're gonna go down to the Michael Center. So the

560
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,119
environment on Saturday prepared a j It prepared Knard these

561
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,640
other guys that maybe have an experience in the continuity

562
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,319
of the team. Because you got to go to Lubbick

563
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,680
on Saturday, you got to go to Kansas at the

564
00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:06,480
end of the month, and then you're one to Baylor

565
00:26:06,519 --> 00:26:08,599
Austin February. That's a tough place to play, and then

566
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:13,200
you play Arizona. So I think this just made BYU's

567
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,599
you know, chemistry a lot more. It made it easier

568
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,599
to be able to take four because I think Lubbig Fog, Allen,

569
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,880
field House and the Michaelson are tougher to play than

570
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,920
a Huntsman in my opinion.

571
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,599
Speaker 1: Well, like I have a little bit of grace because

572
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,359
you're on the road and that was the first time

573
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,839
you've been in that type of environment for the miss

574
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:33,920
free throws, Does that make sense?

575
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,839
Speaker 3: The other thing I'd like to add to this converse closer.

576
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,960
The other thing I want to add about this conversation

577
00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:41,599
about free throws, and this is not a shot at AJ,

578
00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:44,720
but go look at go look at the free throw numbers.

579
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,039
Campbell was one for one, Kennard was two for two,

580
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,759
Richie was four for seven, not great. Rob was three

581
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:52,799
for four. So really what it came down to was

582
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,880
AJ took more free throws than anybody else. AJ missed

583
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,799
more free throws than anybody else. He still went eight

584
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,640
for twelve, which is not like perfect, but it's not

585
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,839
like it's still better than fifty percent. He was shooting

586
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,279
a higher volume. We know free throws are not something

587
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,440
He's excellent a he's not horrible by any means, but

588
00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:14,799
he'd definitely like to improve that. I it was sixty

589
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,319
six percent on the night, but it wasn't necessarily a

590
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,160
train wreck from the entire team. It was mostly just agent.

591
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: The sensitivity of free throws in the final three to

592
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,839
five minutes is what we're It's always just exacerbated, right,

593
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,039
It's just it's just featured.

594
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: It's out there.

595
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: It's the whole concept of stress and pressure, the cornisol levels.

596
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,759
So there wereth your finker's getting a little bit tighter.

597
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,319
You're concerned about fear of failure rather than the faith

598
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,799
of success. Right, All those things contribute so it becomes

599
00:27:50,319 --> 00:27:53,519
just a little bit more prominent. And that's when I

600
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,160
think most of these free throws were missed. I'd have

601
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,000
to look at the timeline, but uh, that that's that's

602
00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:00,799
why we're like, hey, we got to figure this out.

603
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,319
But a little bit of grace because you're on the

604
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,400
road and there's a whole lot of chaos there in

605
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,640
the Huntmand Center. A couple of last things here. What

606
00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:11,880
do you make of the defensive stop by Kaiba late

607
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,440
in the game.

608
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: I just told the guys in.

609
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 6: The locker room that was great. That stop was great.

610
00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:19,519
What I thought about Caba though, is when I try

611
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:20,839
to take him out of the game when he got

612
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:24,240
a third foult. He's been the quietest person on playing

613
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,319
at the Earth until that moment. He's never yelled at

614
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,640
me louder than he did in that moment, which was awesome.

615
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,359
I loved it so Beatles like, am I still checking

616
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,240
in or not? No, You're not gonna shit down. So

617
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,000
that was cool.

618
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 3: But Nahkba too.

619
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 6: You know, we said we want to come up here

620
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,519
and win this game for you know, Richie, Kava, you

621
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:42,599
know j Mack and Dawson, and you know, I thought

622
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:46,039
Richie and Keba's will in that game was probably the difference.

623
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: Richie, Richie and CABA's will to win was the biggest difference.

624
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:55,400
Shout out to Richie and Caba and escape Richie. Uh

625
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:57,759
was asked this question, how do you how does it

626
00:28:57,839 --> 00:28:59,680
feel to finally get a win at the Huntsman Center.

627
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: It's amazing.

628
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 7: Let's I've come up here and come up short overtime,

629
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:08,680
lost by one, lost by two, like to be able

630
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,960
to finish this is a lot of fub.

631
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: You know, cut out there, But yeah, Richie deserves that win.

632
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:21,440
The Todd King riding off into the sunset and this rivalry.

633
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,440
Congratulations to Richie. What were you seeing from Utah defensively

634
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:28,119
as you were able to get downhill effectively?

635
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:28,519
Speaker 3: Richie?

636
00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they were really closing all art to me,

637
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:36,319
which which allowed me to play the attack that closed

638
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:40,279
out and problems with my guys for making the right

639
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:44,759
reads and finding me in those closing opportunities.

640
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: Have we seen an increase in athleticism from Ritchie over

641
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,880
the last year and a half, Like where that first

642
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,200
step is a little bit more just explosive pronounced. He

643
00:29:55,279 --> 00:30:00,200
can he can elevate actually in his drive faith he's

644
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,119
off one foot and elevate, I think much better than

645
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,480
obviously when he initially came into b YU. He's become

646
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:12,680
I think, a more explosive athlete. Shout up to Wiz

647
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:14,839
and that strength and conditioning staff as well as the

648
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,319
nutrition staff over the last year.

649
00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:19,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is a good athlete. The first thing though,

650
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:21,759
when you bring that to mind is was it Arizona

651
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:23,440
State where he went up for the dunk and he

652
00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:25,759
didn't he didn't quite make it, so he was up

653
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:27,559
there and then he dropped ended up having to lay

654
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:29,160
it in. And then I think there was one in

655
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,160
the Utah game as well, where like he could have

656
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:33,440
dunked it and he didn't end up dunking it, which

657
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:36,519
is not all encompassing because he well he doesn't.

658
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:39,319
Speaker 1: He's not a two handed he's a two handed dunker.

659
00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:41,359
He's not a single handed. His hands aren't big enough

660
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,400
to be a single handed dunch.

661
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 3: Sure, you know what I mean. It's a lot, it's

662
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,440
a lot more difficult.

663
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: So you got to get up a little bit high

664
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,359
and you have to be really confident that you're gonna

665
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:52,160
throw down. Remember Gordon Hayward. Hayward could jump rarely when

666
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,559
he won, one hand cocking back, and that's typically a

667
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,160
sign of look, I'm a all hand guy, all right,

668
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:04,000
Like I can't you know, I can't just get up there.

669
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,039
And you know, even in my prime, you just throw

670
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:08,440
it down one hand. I was a two handed dunk

671
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:10,640
or two to two footed jump or two So.

672
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,039
Speaker 3: You know what, I agree. Grace for my guy Rich

673
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,839
but I do want to give him a lot of credit.

674
00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:18,799
This is the one stat from the game that I

675
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,559
don't think anyone's talking about enough. We're talking about the

676
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,160
fact that Richie led the team in scoring, We're talking

677
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,720
about the Big three show up. You know what we're

678
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:27,880
not talking about. You know who led the team in

679
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,880
rebound Saturday night. It wasn't Kaba, It wasn't Abdullah Ahmed,

680
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,359
it wasn't Hadeem, it wasn't Mahilo, it wasn't even aj Debontsa.

681
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:41,400
It was one Tater Todd King. Richie Saunders led the

682
00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:46,400
team in rebounding with fourteen. Six of those were offensive rebounds.

683
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,880
I don't know the exact number on how many of

684
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,000
those were put backs, but a lot of them were.

685
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:53,920
And frankly, on Saturday night, when BYU got into scoring droughts,

686
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:56,680
Richie Sunder said, Hey, don't even worry, I'm gonna get

687
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,759
the offensive free. Doown put the ball back. I'm gonna

688
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:01,279
get us back on the board. So and I think

689
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,160
that honestly speaks a lot to his athleticism, the fact

690
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,359
that he was able to box and body guys out

691
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,279
and go up and get the board and then score

692
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:10,680
on top of it. That to me says more about

693
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,160
his athleticism then whether or not you think he can dunk.

694
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to think of how many of those

695
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:21,440
were missed three point shots long rebounds. I think many

696
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,519
of them were so like like I said, his ability,

697
00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:29,400
his vision, his visual acuity, and his ability to forecast

698
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,359
where that balls bounce it off the rim. Guys, that's

699
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:34,279
that's special. That's definitely special.

700
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:35,119
Speaker 3: And his will to win.

701
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,319
Speaker 1: Obviously, you got to be athletic, you gotta have the will,

702
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:38,480
you gotta have great vision as well.

703
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: Ronald, did you want to chime in on there?

704
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 5: I want to add to something else, and look, that's

705
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,240
why you crashed the boards. Ben And this who goes

706
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:45,279
back to Richie about if he could teach people how

707
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:48,319
to play hard, He's I'm watching him track the ball

708
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,400
and run down that's just high IQ in full. Out

709
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,920
of the six offensive rebounds or from miss threes that

710
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,319
he tracked down by the way, to give you guys

711
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:57,440
that number, I didn't shot out to Brett on pulling that.

712
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,720
I didn't know if we were going to talk about

713
00:32:58,759 --> 00:32:59,359
that today, but we did.

714
00:32:59,440 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 7: No.

715
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 5: The last thing I want to say on his athleticism.

716
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:04,319
It's not just that Ben, but also he can step

717
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,319
back three. You remember the Arizona game. Wants to drive,

718
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,880
says no, And I didn't think he had this in

719
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,519
his back. I didn't think it would ever be developed.

720
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,799
He can't get past the guy. He goes in between

721
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:15,480
his legs dribble, literally puts the ball on the floor

722
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,880
between the legs, one jab, steps back, pulls the three

723
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,319
guys like that's a very bad shot and drills that.

724
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,279
I said, okay, when did he pick up? When did

725
00:33:23,359 --> 00:33:25,680
he pick that up? Like that's what you expect from

726
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:28,359
rob Aj Knar And when he did that, I said, okay,

727
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,680
this kid has reached an NBA peak that you know.

728
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,559
Now we can say he can play at the NBA

729
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,240
that level, Like the rebounding is there, like Ben, if

730
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:38,640
he can put the ball on the floor like that

731
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,359
and step back and drill a three on your face

732
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:43,279
and he like I want Aj to get that first

733
00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:46,200
quick step like Richie, that explosiveness where he can just

734
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,720
it's so fast and he's so dynamic when he gets

735
00:33:49,759 --> 00:33:52,119
the ball. Is that's what makes him so tough to guard.

736
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,880
Is if you're a half, if you're even a quarter, second,

737
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,480
whatever the your zero point zero one, he's gonna draw contact.

738
00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:01,920
You saw why Utah was so frustrat Look there, you

739
00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:04,720
might argue that Aj and Richie both.

740
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:06,039
Speaker 4: Are difficult to guard.

741
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 5: Extremely is like it's almost impossible when they get underneath

742
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,719
the basket, like when they get downhill, if you don't

743
00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:14,280
like push them out of the pain immediately once they

744
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,440
get to the basket, it's over because they're just so long,

745
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,760
they're so fast, and they're so physical at the point

746
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,920
of attack. Look, I'm excited to see this matchup in

747
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,719
Lubbock because this is the game on Saturday. I know

748
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,000
I'm overlooking TC. That's bad, but I think they'll take

749
00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:29,599
care of business them. See the Lubbit game. If you

750
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,480
can get a team like that, and then as you

751
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:33,400
start to get into the hard part of this schedule,

752
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,480
if they're playing at this high of a level, Bend,

753
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,239
I think we can start to say it more as

754
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,920
they get in the march, this team will be a

755
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:40,400
legit Final four contender.

756
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,519
Speaker 1: Let's get to a couple last sound bites here, Aj

757
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,760
to bots up, how would you describe the first time

758
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,159
playing at the Huntsman Center? And this BYU Utah robbery.

759
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 3: Game Boy, that was crazy.

760
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,159
Speaker 8: That was super hostile. That's probably like, besides my high

761
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,039
school days, that robbery. That's probably like the most hostile

762
00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:01,039
environment I've been in. That was really like welcome to

763
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:01,920
the Bay to all moment for me.

764
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,519
Speaker 1: And He's like he was taken back. What were they

765
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:07,199
saying to aj?

766
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:08,599
Speaker 3: Overrated?

767
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:09,679
Speaker 4: Overrated?

768
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,199
Speaker 1: What else were they say, Ronnie? Were you able to

769
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,480
pick up on Look?

770
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:15,079
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this right I was.

771
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 5: I asked for a different seat this time because I

772
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,880
like to be able to see the game because fans

773
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,960
just stand up in the other part. So I was

774
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:25,559
near the scores table and the other stuff that I

775
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,039
was hearing from some other people I won't say names,

776
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:29,519
but heard not good.

777
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 3: Uh what it was?

778
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 5: It average? And I'm like and I'm just sitting there,

779
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,320
Like he averaged. I was like, how is drawn tender?

780
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:36,599
Speaker 3: Yeah?

781
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 4: He averages twenty points a game. No, That's what I

782
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:40,440
was getting in.

783
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,079
Speaker 5: It was from even like some of the people that

784
00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:45,719
help out with the game, like personnel of like you know,

785
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,920
like that's not a foul, he's not playing good. Like

786
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:50,280
the moment and this is what I mean. And I'm

787
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,639
giving you a lot of people insight. There was one

788
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,800
playing in particular that really like irritated me. I don't

789
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,400
let stuff really get to me, but this one got

790
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,840
to me. Ben and Aj is backtracking his defender right,

791
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:02,159
trying to face guard him, as they say, not trying

792
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:05,239
to allow him. And when the guy is shooting a shot,

793
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,679
he tries to like jump at the last second to

794
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,119
avoid to not try to block him. He just ran

795
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:11,840
into him and he founded him as a foul by him.

796
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,559
There was someone that said, oh, he did that on purpose,

797
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,719
and we all watched the tape, made a bunch of

798
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,320
the media.

799
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:19,159
Speaker 4: Guys and I'm like, was that on purpose? And like, no,

800
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,000
it's unintentional.

801
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 5: So I think sometimes in a Ribie game, when you

802
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,679
get emotional, things are said, and that's what was said.

803
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:29,599
Be overrated, not good, average, you know, foul baitor. Oh

804
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:31,159
he's only really good because he gets to the free

805
00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:33,719
throw line. I'm like, that's not true, but that's what

806
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,239
was said.

807
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 3: I heard.

808
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,679
Speaker 1: There was like an acron abused for Canard Davis.

809
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 3: They were calling him out too. Not very very nice.

810
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, not very very nice, not very nice.

811
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: Kevin, what was the message to your players following the

812
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,199
game and what do you gain from a win like this.

813
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:50,679
Speaker 3: What was a hard fog game, which we knew it

814
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:53,599
would be. I mean, rivalry games are like that for

815
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,559
a reason. That makes it super fun.

816
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 6: I agree with AJ, just a fun environment. I mean,

817
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,880
there's nothing better as a competitor to go into somebody

818
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,360
else's building and beat them in their building, especially when

819
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,760
it's somebody that there's a long standing rivalry with. So

820
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,280
really it was really that usually so I'll get into

821
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,440
the stats this and that. Stats don't matter in a

822
00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:12,920
game like this. I just thought it was a really

823
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,880
really good, hard fought win, and I just really praised Uh,

824
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:21,679
you know, I pulled Rob MoU and ajaside separately and

825
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,760
just kind of whispered to them, Hey, you know, you

826
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,480
guys probably don't. You didn't grow up hating Utah or

827
00:37:27,519 --> 00:37:29,760
having a rivalry with all due respect of course in

828
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,840
a nice way, but this game means a ton to

829
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,119
our university, it means a ton for Richie and and

830
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:37,199
you know, we want to send them out with the win.

831
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,760
And that was really cool to see that those guys

832
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,639
step up in moments along with Kiva and Richie. So

833
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,760
that was really the message.

834
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 3: Just proud of the guys to uh, you know, get

835
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,840
it done. Nice dub, great dub.

836
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: But it's a quad two win on the road, and

837
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,840
uh you hope it stays a quad two.

838
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: Utah, do your part.

839
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:57,119
Speaker 1: For the love of all that's holy, do your part

840
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,440
and uh it dude, you know what make it a

841
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:02,079
quad one win for us? If you could, it'd be nice,

842
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,599
could you. I don't know, we can't rely on that

843
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,199
much a j unless.

844
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 3: They like they did. Man, maybe that's gonna be the catalyst.

845
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: Maybe that's gonna be, like, you know, the the prod

846
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,639
that gets them going because they played extremely well.

847
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,119
Speaker 3: How do you lose eight games or seven games and

848
00:38:18,199 --> 00:38:19,079
then play that well?

849
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 4: I don't it.

850
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: Is it purely just like the spirit of the Holy War.

851
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:28,079
Speaker 1: They just rates like, it's just crazy that you can

852
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:30,039
go from being that bad to play in that well.

853
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:32,599
I mean they were on a three game losing streak.

854
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,239
Their last win was versus Eastern Washington. But Mississippi State

855
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,760
laws cal Baptist, they gotta win. They lost a Cow

856
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,320
seventy nine, seventy two. They did beat Ole Miss. They

857
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,280
beat Ole Miss seventy five, seventy four. They lost the

858
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,519
Grand Canyon. They lost to Cal Pauly. They started the

859
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:59,159
season off decently with five wins. Anyway, let's let's just

860
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,199
hope that they get on the right track. In Byu

861
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,719
was the catalyst to get him on the right track.

862
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,440
Agent of Bonza, are you used to being the target

863
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,639
of opposing fans? How are you able to handle that?

864
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,440
Some of the chants they were they were given you

865
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,880
and you were still able to succeed.

866
00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:16,559
Speaker 8: I've been dealing with it since I was thirteen. I

867
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:20,119
have been getting hate commons, hate phrases, sayings during games.

868
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 3: I'd have heard it all.

869
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,639
Speaker 8: So I mean, I just got to play my game

870
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:23,760
and just make right decisions.

871
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:27,199
Speaker 3: He's hurt it all, he's heard everything.

872
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: You've coached Ky two games at the Huntsman Center now,

873
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,960
once against Craig Smith and another against Alex Jensen. How

874
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,119
would you assess Alex and what you saw from Utah

875
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,039
on Saturday.

876
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 6: Well, I've known Alex for a long time. You know,

877
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,800
we've coached against each other a long time ago in

878
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,360
the CHI League. We sort of broke into the NBA

879
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,000
around the same time. And when I was with the Suns,

880
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,480
he's with the Jazz. You know, we had a ton

881
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:52,719
of battles so I'm.

882
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 3: Very familiar with him.

883
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,039
Speaker 6: He's a good person, but you still want to beat

884
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:58,360
him in a game like that. So he's smart, man,

885
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,519
He's a smart coach, and he's he's just figuring it

886
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:07,119
all out, all the idiosyncrasies. He joked before the game

887
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,599
because like in the NBA, like you do the anthem

888
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:12,159
and like the coaches wave and play the game. In college,

889
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,920
like before the game you like walk the line shape

890
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,519
and he's like still trying to figure out what we're

891
00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:18,719
supposed to do this. So he's still figuring everything out.

892
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:21,360
But he's a smart guy. Man, and west with and

893
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,000
Willcox too, they're smart. They have a lot of experience

894
00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:27,760
and so you know this will be some fun games

895
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,480
over the years between you.

896
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,800
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the transfer portal, who's in, who's out, the acquisitions and

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Speaker 2: Just like the Cougar football team, Ben Priddle was built,

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the go to source on the radio and online for

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sure g Mann would like that song. G Man has

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to have loved that song. I'm gonna send it to him.

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We'll get confirmation he may be listening. Shout out to

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the g Man. But Wham Everything she wants, Everything that

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Kugarnation wants right now, for the most part, is happening.

929
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Speaker 3: Would you agree?

930
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean BA football, they didn't get it into

931
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:13,519
college football playoff, But I don't think there are any

932
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:17,440
stranger to like, you know, being left out of the club.

933
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:20,039
And we're working our way in into the you know,

934
00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:22,840
to the power circle, the circle of trust, if you will,

935
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:23,920
of the college football realm.

936
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:26,199
Speaker 3: We'll get there. I hope.

937
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,679
Speaker 1: I pray Boe basketball currently what fifteen and one only

938
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,840
loss on a neutral court to Yukon, which was technically

939
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,519
kind of sort of a home court advantage for them

940
00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:39,960
being so close to their their home, their home stadium,

941
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:43,039
their home hometown fans, et cetera. You just got to

942
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:45,519
win over the University of Utah on a holy word

943
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:48,000
game at the Huntsmit Center, something you couldn't do in

944
00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:51,880
recent history. So Wham Everything you Want is a Cougar

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off your order today. Biggest news right over the last

952
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isay last seventy two hours or so, is that Evan

953
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:21,039
Johnson is coming back to BYU.

954
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: I think if you look at the key.

955
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: Players on the defensive side that you were most concerned about,

956
00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:33,960
it was volatile Satuwala, Isaiah Glasker, and Evan Johnson. Correct,

957
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:36,400
those are the three that you were most concerned about

958
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,840
leaving because those are the three players that could go

959
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:44,119
pretty much anywhere in the country and either be a

960
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:52,079
starter or a verifiable like rotational guy, someone that's going

961
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:54,719
to get significant reps at an EP four institution and

962
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,840
get paid a pretty penny.

963
00:43:57,119 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: So that's the good news.

964
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: What's the bad new? What are some of the who

965
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,920
are some of the interviews? Look, and we've heard like

966
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,719
Body Schoonover's coming back Hunter Clak. Remember Hunter Claik was

967
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,760
a four star defense event. This is huge, This is big, Like,

968
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:15,920
you've not lost any key starter or key contributor. You know,

969
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,559
I would say, like key rotational contributor to the portal?

970
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:20,119
Speaker 3: Just yet?

971
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: Can I give you a satur the Day brought to

972
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by Vanderwealth. Let's go on average, Big twelve schools have

973
00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:28,360
lost twenty eight players to the transfer portal this year

974
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,320
as of right now, boy, who's only lost ten? Unreal

975
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,079
what Bboyu was able to do in terms of retention.

976
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,639
Like I'm trying to find what exactly.

977
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:41,639
Speaker 3: The hard data is of why bau was able to

978
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,159
do this, But it's it's a really good number to

979
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,199
push back with fans because I think there are some

980
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,199
fans out there who are going, hey, everybody else's pick Hayes.

981
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,679
Fawcett is reporting every Big twelve school in the world

982
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,960
is picking up guys. Why do we only have three

983
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:56,440
right now?

984
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: And the point you pushed back to him is I

985
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,480
get that, but also what else are you not talking

986
00:45:02,519 --> 00:45:03,559
about with all those schools?

987
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: All those schools lost guys? Who boy, you lose? Yeah,

988
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:07,840
who they lose?

989
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,679
Speaker 1: They have lost the one guy I thought they would lose.

990
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,239
Maybe followed Ougic He is such a big j Hill guy.

991
00:45:14,559 --> 00:45:17,119
Speaker 3: He didn't go. Keanu was coming back. IG's coming back LJ.

992
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,239
You're talking about SMV, Like, yes, b YU is not

993
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,559
pulling in the same numbers transfer wise that everybody else is.

994
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,000
But it's because they don't have spots that they have

995
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:31,159
to fill because all of their guys want to come back,

996
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,719
so I would so the only guys we can make

997
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,360
an argue for of like hey, starters are key contributors.

998
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:37,800
Right now.

999
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: You can say Tavian Beasley, he ended up at USF.

1000
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,360
By the way, Tavian's committed. Max Alford did enter the

1001
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,639
portal BYU linebacker, former Utah State linebacker, running back at

1002
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:56,159
Park City High School, and he was essentially a rotational

1003
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,559
starter this year to degree with behind Shielia Sarah. He

1004
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:02,480
ended up injured, suffered a knee injury. We'll see where

1005
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:06,119
he ends up. Unfortunately, his value in the transport is

1006
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:08,239
probably going to be limited because he's coming off an injury.

1007
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,679
We'll see if he ends up back at Utah State

1008
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,079
where he can probably start after getting some good film

1009
00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:18,000
at Utah or you could see him, you could see

1010
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:20,679
him making his way to like Michigan. The Alfred families

1011
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:23,480
out there coaching at Michigan. You can see and there

1012
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:27,000
is some connectivity there you don't know. We had Wilsonoden

1013
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:30,360
on our show talking about Smith and others. We talked

1014
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,760
about Walker Lions as well. He's well connected in the

1015
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,119
recruiting industry. It knows where these guys are going. Don't

1016
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:39,800
be surprised if Max ends up at a high level

1017
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,719
program as well, because of the film that he was

1018
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,239
able to aggregate at BYU and because of those connections, right,

1019
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,519
because of he's got a good advocate for him and

1020
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:53,639
he's so it doesn't have to be in state, but

1021
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,840
I wouldn't be surprised if it's in state because he

1022
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,360
can go in and start immediately, and he's not going

1023
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,920
to be a rotational guy. He's going to be the

1024
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,840
certified starter, even even most likely coming off an ACL

1025
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,280
injury that occurred late in the season.

1026
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,159
Speaker 3: We'll see how it plays out for Max Alford.

1027
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: But the two guys, and you could make an argument

1028
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,280
for a third and Sonny Tuala, those are the guys

1029
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,079
that were your rotational guys. Marcus mackenzie was more of

1030
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:20,079
a special team specialist and that one hurts, but he's

1031
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:23,880
also had injury issues. Whereas on the acquisition side, you

1032
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:29,920
have three official transfers, right now Zach Yamauchi from Stanford, Okay,

1033
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:34,760
a former high level three star, and then Kyle Casper,

1034
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,159
a former four star wide receiver, now he a three

1035
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,079
star transfer.

1036
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,079
Speaker 3: That's just how it goes.

1037
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,119
Speaker 1: From Oregon originally from Arizona, and then Walker Lions four

1038
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:49,159
star tight end. Those are your three acquisitions, and you

1039
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,599
now have eleven individuals that have entered the portal, but

1040
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,079
none of your key starters, contributors, guys that you really

1041
00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:01,760
wanted to keep, in my opinion, have left. That's massive

1042
00:48:02,599 --> 00:48:06,480
and very few have that. Indiana, for instance, and granted

1043
00:48:06,639 --> 00:48:09,639
Curt Signetic's only been there for two years. Indiana had

1044
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:13,679
twenty seven guys leave last year and they acquired twenty three.

1045
00:48:14,159 --> 00:48:16,679
And much of their success, people will say, is that

1046
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,800
they have older, wiser football players that have played.

1047
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:21,599
Speaker 3: A lot of football.

1048
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: Right now, they have nine outgoing transfers, so akin to

1049
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:32,320
similar to what BYU has, and they have acquired fifteen

1050
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:34,159
incoming transfers.

1051
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,039
Speaker 3: So Boa is a little bit unique.

1052
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:38,639
Speaker 1: Remember, they have the return missionaries that are coming back,

1053
00:48:40,119 --> 00:48:45,800
and so you have that element that maybe is not

1054
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,719
always accounted for with these recruiting rankings, guys coming back

1055
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,360
off missions et cetera. But that's the state of the

1056
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,599
program right now. The Kilani culture is winning out every

1057
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,440
single year. No other team in college football that is

1058
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,360
won as much as BYU Football for the last you know,

1059
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,639
probably the last three seasons, has that that type of

1060
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:10,920
limited attrition. They retain a lot of the talent that

1061
00:49:11,039 --> 00:49:15,320
they want, Like the ones that that that hurt last

1062
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:20,039
year were yes, Keelin, Marion, Harrison, Taggart, and obviously Jake Retslaw,

1063
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:21,800
but that was kind of a forced situation with Jake

1064
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,559
retz Law. But for the most part, you retained your guys.

1065
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,039
And what does that say about the program? In the

1066
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:32,360
state of the program means you should be optimistic cougarnation

1067
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:35,719
about where we're going. And and most people say the

1068
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,760
biggest loss is Jay Hill and Genaro, Well, did they

1069
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,960
take anybody from you?

1070
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 3: No, they didn't. Close my mind. Still, I still cannot

1071
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,880
believe nobody. And I wouldn't even have been mad if

1072
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,159
Folatau or Schmev or Trey if any of these guys

1073
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,960
had gone, I would not disrespect it at all. I

1074
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,039
would respect the game. I am shocked that. I'm so happy.

1075
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,719
I don't I don't want any of them to go

1076
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,320
I'm just looking at it from an objective standpoint. I

1077
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,480
think a lot of people thought somebody was going nobody did.

1078
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:12,119
I still cannot believe that that played out that way.

1079
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,639
Speaker 1: It's it truly is remarkable, and what does that speak

1080
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:20,599
to speaks to Kalani? Kelly Papinga went on to BYU

1081
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:22,960
Sports Nation last week and one of the things he

1082
00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:25,400
pointed out to was, like, the biggest piece of retention

1083
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:27,760
is the fact that these young men want to play

1084
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,119
for Kilani. He'll take a little bit of the credit

1085
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:33,360
obviously as the defensive coordinator, but the biggest piece is

1086
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,239
Kilani's culture and that they want to play for Kilani.

1087
00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: Period. That's it. Look what's happening up on the hill.

1088
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,119
I understand it's losing a head coach, which is different,

1089
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:47,480
and they also lost a number, but they are losing

1090
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:51,119
guys left and right, which that's not like taking a

1091
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:52,760
shot at Utah, Like that's just the state of the

1092
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,000
world of college football. When you lose a coach, guys go,

1093
00:50:56,639 --> 00:51:00,119
and they lost coaches, they lost other guys, Like, they

1094
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:02,519
lost a number of coaches on that staff. They are

1095
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,800
having to work really hard in the portal because they're

1096
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,920
losing a lot of guys BYU lost a Jay Hill

1097
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,000
who was I'm my guess is online with Kilani in

1098
00:51:13,079 --> 00:51:16,000
terms of how much they love that guy. People didn't

1099
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:17,239
follow him when you when you.

1100
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: Juxtappose it with other places where similar things are happening,

1101
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,280
Like I know there's fans who are like, why aren't

1102
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,559
we getting more guys?

1103
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: Because you don't need more guys. And if you're really

1104
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,800
really feeling down about it, go look at other people

1105
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,800
who have a lot less because they've lost a lot more.

1106
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: Let's go to break that segment. Brought to you by

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I said, you have had two or Shuit, You've had

1113
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,159
three transfers now come to by you, one from Stanford,

1114
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,920
one from Oregon, one from usc You have an interier

1115
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,159
offensive alignment in Zach Yamauchi Kyler Casper Wide Receiver from

1116
00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:10,039
Oregon and then Walker Lyons usc to b YU at

1117
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:11,920
it as a tight end. I'd say it's been a

1118
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,199
pretty good haul so far. We're always I mean, like

1119
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,480
I said, like you're you're much more strategic about your

1120
00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:20,920
acquisitions at b YU because you have much more retention

1121
00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:24,119
and you have many more additions to guys coming off missions.

1122
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:27,760
So we're gonna be strategic about it. I imagine we're

1123
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,599
gonna know pretty here, pretty closely about you know here

1124
00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:36,360
shortly about packy female from the University of Washington that

1125
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,960
would be a second addition to the offensive line. It

1126
00:52:40,039 --> 00:52:42,719
hasn't been made official yet, but it seems like it's

1127
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,519
trending that way. Greg Biggins of Rivals had prognosticated Crystal

1128
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:50,039
Ball that Paki would be coming to BYU. That doesn't

1129
00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:52,920
make it set in stone by any means, but Paky

1130
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,079
a really good football player with ties.

1131
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: He's very familiar with t J.

1132
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:58,599
Speaker 1: Woods, And in fact, I think he's only taken a

1133
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,079
visit to b YU, and I think he canceled his other.

1134
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,199
Speaker 3: Two visits at least up to this point.

1135
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,119
Speaker 1: That's where it stands. We'll go to break, don't go

1136
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:07,239
anywhere more to get to coming up next. Tom Holmo

1137
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,559
former BYU Great Super Bowl Champion and the greatest athletic

1138
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,440
director in BYU athletics history. He joins us next to

1139
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:17,880
celebrate his mission. Call baby, that's right. He's going to

1140
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,039
be serving a mission for the Church of Just Christ

1141
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:22,320
of Latter day Saints in the Bay Area, going back home,

1142
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,360
going back to his roots to preach the gospel and

1143
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,079
lead missionaries. That's coming up next. This is Cougar Sports

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on one of three nine ninety eight point three ESP