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Speaker 4: It is a Friday edition of Coffee and Company. Get
Speaker 4: you set for the weekend. Maybe the weekend hasn't quite
Speaker 4: a arrived for you yet, but I'm sure it'll be
Speaker 4: here soon at least. So and uh, thank you guys
Speaker 4: for hanging out with us. Vib's pretty good here for
Speaker 4: me on a Friday. I mean, we'll start with how
Speaker 4: Halloween worked out great? How about Mother Nature having some
Speaker 4: compassion at least for where I was. I don't know,
Speaker 4: maybe it did rain elsewhere, but we had our little
Speaker 4: get together which it turned into a big get together.
Speaker 4: A lot of people at the house last night. Good times,
Speaker 4: and everybody brought like a dish, so like we all
Speaker 4: kind of ate and it was raining but nothing crazy,
Speaker 4: just you know that consistent light rain. The best way
Speaker 4: to describe it. As I mentioned yesterday, I imagine the levels
Speaker 4: that you have for your windshiel wipers, like not the slowest,
Speaker 4: but the second slowest. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: like right about seven o'clock, it stopped. So it was still,
Speaker 4: you know, really wet outside, but the temperature was pretty
Speaker 4: good and we didn't get wet, so worked out well.
Speaker 4: And there was a ton of people out. I mean,
Speaker 4: my neighborhood I think has kind of become the neighborhood
Speaker 4: that everybody gets dropped off in because there are men
Speaker 4: any many people who do it big, which is which
Speaker 4: is awesome.
Speaker 5: We really enjoy it.
Speaker 4: But I was just thinking that because of the weather,
Speaker 4: like especially right around six thirty it's when it got dark,
Speaker 4: I mean, it wasn't looking good, but yet the kids
Speaker 4: still enjoyed Halloween. Parents did as well, and shout out
Speaker 4: to two of the folks in my neighborhood. I mean,
Speaker 4: there was many people out handing out candy and you know,
Speaker 4: enjoying Halloween night. But there were two different stops along
Speaker 4: our journey last night where they had they had gifts,
Speaker 4: not candy, but gifts treats if you will, for for
Speaker 4: the adults. One house was given out fireball shots, which
Speaker 4: it wasn't like one of those many It wasn't like
Speaker 4: a mini mini bottle like the smallest ones, like the
Speaker 4: you know, the airplane shooters, but it was like slightly
Speaker 4: bigger than that, so it was a decent, decent shot.
Speaker 4: And then another house was handing out beer. So I mean,
Speaker 4: I feel like Halloween couldn't win any better on mind.
Speaker 4: Did you guys have any trigger treaters?
Speaker 1: No, And I mean there were some around the neighborhood
Speaker 1: as there typically are, but just because of the you know,
Speaker 1: the weather, and it was still raining whenever I got
Speaker 1: back to my house, and the Halloween vibes weren't as
Speaker 1: on point as they usually usually are in my neck
Speaker 1: of the woods.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would say, I mean, it's it's pretty
Speaker 4: easy to just say, yeah, I guess I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: trick or treat this year because it's been raining all
Speaker 4: day and it might start raining again, and I've already
Speaker 4: loaded up on candy from all the trunk or treats
Speaker 4: my parents took me to. So you know, I could
Speaker 4: see it being more of like a you know, most
Speaker 4: of the kids, in fact, nearly all the kids that
Speaker 4: were out trick or treating with us, you know, they're
Speaker 4: younger to where they're not running off doing their own
Speaker 4: thing with their friends. It's you know, young small kids.
Speaker 4: So now that I think of it, most of the
Speaker 4: kids out and about were younger with their parents, like
Speaker 4: if you're you know, a teenager or you know, eleven twelve, like,
Speaker 4: it probably was pretty easy to say, yeah, I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna I got enough candy. I'm gonna stay inside and
Speaker 4: watch my tablet or watch, you know, play video games
Speaker 4: or something like that. But yeah, like just about everybody
Speaker 4: that I have either talked to or just her discussing Halloween,
Speaker 4: I know Shannon and Billy were talking about a little
Speaker 4: bit this morning about how both of them very light
Speaker 4: when it comes to the trigger treaters, which was it
Speaker 4: was the exact opposite for me. So maybe I'm the
Speaker 4: only one here talking about good vibes from Halloween. Although
Speaker 4: my kids cleaned up all all the way around, like
Speaker 4: from all the things we did, and then last night
Speaker 4: and with inflation, I had to break the news to
Speaker 4: Moose and De Maaya last night that you know, it's
Speaker 4: out of my control, but the dad tax has gone
Speaker 4: up ten percent to now fifteen percent. It's the economy.
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's out of my hands. It's just
Speaker 4: you know, it's part of it, all right.
Speaker 1: I mean, the dad tex sounds like a wonderful thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I look, it's like whenever, you know, I
Speaker 4: told her, told Maya. You know, look, it's just how
Speaker 4: it is. You know, they were wondering why I wanted
Speaker 4: their candy, and I'm like, look, it's just how this works.
Speaker 4: And don't blame me the fact that it's gone up.
Speaker 4: I'm now paying a lot more every time we take
Speaker 4: you guys out to eat than I used to. It's just,
Speaker 4: you know, it's just the way of life. But anyways,
Speaker 4: good vibes here on a Friday. Let's keep that until
Speaker 4: six o'clock because that's that's when we get out of here.
Speaker 5: We're gonna have some fun over these next few hours.
Speaker 4: And maybe it's just me, because I'd be a liar
Speaker 4: if I told you that, man, I can you know,
Speaker 4: everybody in town is talking about this Louisville game against
Speaker 4: Clemson tomorrow and then winning for the first time ever
Speaker 4: against Clemson and you know, doing the unthinkable knocking off
Speaker 4: Dabbo and not the unthinkable for you know, anybody, but
Speaker 4: like Louisville obviously they've never beat them, so it's not
Speaker 4: Trust me, It's not like I'm trying to oversell it
Speaker 4: as if like everybody's just expecting this massive win for Louisville.
Speaker 4: But I get I mean, I feel like this is
Speaker 4: a big I mean, it is a big game, and
Speaker 4: kind of like when Miami came to town a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks ago. You know, it's just nice to be
Speaker 4: a part of games that you know are going to
Speaker 4: get more eyeballs than you know, the majority of your games.
Speaker 4: It's under the lights, great atmosphere. I mean, it's not
Speaker 4: gonna be easy. It's gonna be a big challenge, no doubt.
Speaker 4: But with that challenge comes a big opportunity, right Like
Speaker 4: if you somehow were able to find a way to
Speaker 4: put a full game together and get this win. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't want to get anybody's hopes up, but it
Speaker 4: would be one of the biggest things that's happened to
Speaker 4: Louisville football in a while. I feel like maybe I'm
Speaker 4: giving Clemson a little too much credit, but you know,
Speaker 4: despite them not being the same program they were for
Speaker 4: about a four year window where they were either winning
Speaker 4: the national championship or playing for the national championship. I mean,
Speaker 4: when you think of them being down, they're down is
Speaker 4: like still winning nine to ten games. I mean, in fact,
Speaker 4: I remember initially on the initial drop off they're down
Speaker 4: was well, they made the four team playoff, but they lost.
Speaker 4: Like so, you know, this Clemson team, I think tomorrow
Speaker 4: is a really good chance to see exactly where they are.
Speaker 4: I mean, because they've been very impressive when it comes
Speaker 4: to the numbers as far as how bad they're beating
Speaker 4: teams and whatnot. But you know, this is easily the
Speaker 4: biggest challenge that they've had since Georgia. And it's really
Speaker 4: not even like could debate, like Dabo's saying it. You
Speaker 4: look at their schedule and it's not like, again, this
Speaker 4: is one of those things that makes me a little
Speaker 4: more optimistic about the matchup is that you know, it's
Speaker 4: not like you look at Louisville and think, well, yeah, clearly, Louisville,
Speaker 4: they're so good.
Speaker 5: That's why they're the best.
Speaker 4: Team that Clemson's played since Week one. It's more so
Speaker 4: because there's really no conversation to be had. There's not
Speaker 4: anybody on their schedule they've played as up to right
Speaker 4: now outside of Georgia, which they played in Week one,
Speaker 4: that you would say is even a good team. So
Speaker 4: when I say it gives me some optimism. It makes
Speaker 4: me look at their results and realize that, yeah, it's impressive,
Speaker 4: but it's tough to really know if it's because they're
Speaker 4: that good or because they're just a good team that's
Speaker 4: taking advantage of who's in front of them. So I'm
Speaker 4: almost ready to say, you know, like they're gonna do
Speaker 4: it now. Again, that wouldn't have any impact on the game,
Speaker 4: but that's how that's how good I'm feeling about this
Speaker 4: team right now. And again it's mostly just because of
Speaker 4: what they did against Boston College, not because they beat them,
Speaker 4: but as I mentioned throughout the week, because of how
Speaker 4: they did it. So what I do feel confident and
Speaker 4: is that we're going to know right away, like not
Speaker 4: if necessarily they were able to take something valuable from
Speaker 4: the Boston College comeback, but like, are they going to
Speaker 4: be in it, because you know, the atmosphere is going
Speaker 4: to be insane, probably the best atmosphere any of these
Speaker 4: guys have ever played in. And Clemson, maybe they strike first,
Speaker 4: but like, if we get to the end of the
Speaker 4: first quarter and it's and it's close competitive, maybe louis
Speaker 4: has got a slight lead by a field goal or something,
Speaker 4: or maybe maybe Clemson's up by a score, like.
Speaker 5: If we if the if the if.
Speaker 4: The first quarter is gonna be so important for me
Speaker 4: because Louisville can't really dig a big hole and expect
Speaker 4: to come back. And now I don't mean it'd be
Speaker 4: great if they could come out and like strike first,
Speaker 4: maybe get a scoop and score or something fluky that
Speaker 4: gives them a little little edge, calms that stadium down,
Speaker 4: That would be great. But I don't think they have
Speaker 4: to get off to like a ten to ohero head
Speaker 4: start to you know, be able to hold on and win.
Speaker 4: I think if they go back and forth but it's
Speaker 4: not necessarily a shootout like what we saw in the
Speaker 4: second half against Miami, I think that's best case scenario.
Speaker 4: But you could probably say this about a lot of
Speaker 4: football games. But I feel like we're gonna know after
Speaker 4: the first quarter if it's going to be, you know,
Speaker 4: one of three things. Louisve is gonna get killed and
Speaker 4: it's gonna be ugly the rest of the way, or
Speaker 4: it's competitive and maybe they compete close and give themselves
Speaker 4: a chance to win at the end, or you know,
Speaker 4: maybe Louisville somehow does get off to a great start.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, I think we'll know up to the
Speaker 4: first quarter if we're gonna if we're gonna be in it,
Speaker 4: and I'm hopeful that they will. But you know, it's
Speaker 4: the intrigue of the unknown. I have no clue what
Speaker 4: we're gonna get tomorrow. And that's that's that's exciting in
Speaker 4: a way. It's not nerves. It's just you know, you've
Speaker 4: already come up short three times. You've played good teams.
Speaker 4: SMU wasn't really considered a team at the time. You
Speaker 4: felt like, here we go, we're about to play one
Speaker 4: of the best, you know, top twenty five teams in
Speaker 4: the country. But I think they've shown since then that
Speaker 4: they are pretty good. But like Notre Dame Clemson or
Speaker 4: sorry Notre Dame, Miami and now Clemson. I mean those
Speaker 4: are games where you feel like, okay, let's see where
Speaker 4: we are. And in both those games, I think there
Speaker 4: was a lot to like, you just came up short,
Speaker 4: and now you've got a third chance. Have you been
Speaker 4: battle tested enough to where you can you can get
Speaker 4: over the hump and finally win and beat one of
Speaker 4: these good teams on your schedule. The last time that
Speaker 4: Clemson lost a home game on a Saturday night twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4: This is eleven year. They've won eleven. For eleven straight years,
Speaker 4: they have won every home game they have had that's
Speaker 4: played on a Saturday night. Keyword there, Saturday night. So
Speaker 4: they have lost. I think they lost to Florida State
Speaker 4: last year and it was at Death Valley, but you know,
Speaker 4: before then, I think they had the longest Like I
Speaker 4: could be wrong here, I think they are let's see,
Speaker 4: like twenty maybe twenty eight, twenty nine and one in
Speaker 4: home games overall in their last thirty. I think that's
Speaker 4: what I saw And the only one I think was
Speaker 4: the only loss was to I think Florida State last year.
Speaker 4: So beating them at their place, even despite their struggles
Speaker 4: which really aren't struggles compared to a lot of teams
Speaker 4: is very difficult to do. But doing it at night
Speaker 4: hasn't happened in you know, eleven years. What were you
Speaker 4: doing eleven years ago, John.
Speaker 1: Man, twenty thirteen in the fall? What would have been
Speaker 1: in it would have been a fret? No excuse me?
Speaker 1: A sophomore high school.
Speaker 5: I mean you were a young buck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a young buck. I mean I was enjoying,
Speaker 1: I was getting ready to enjoy. Was that a good
Speaker 1: season for Indiana basketball in twenty thirteen fourteen? I feel
Speaker 1: like it might have been a bit of a drop
Speaker 1: off year because probably because the year thirteen, yeah, was
Speaker 1: of course the year Louisville one. Everyone was also a
Speaker 1: one seed. Yeah, you're thinking about those.
Speaker 4: I don't remember about the drop off after that, but
Speaker 4: it was it was never consistent with Crean like he
Speaker 4: would he would be good.
Speaker 1: And then you know, both both of Crean's best years
Speaker 1: thirteen and sixteen, the following year was terrible, Yeah, comparison.
Speaker 4: And he had at least two years where he wasn't
Speaker 4: supposed to be good. And then they kind of were
Speaker 4: like when they went to the Sweet sixteen and knocked
Speaker 4: off Kentucky. That team I remember, there wasn't a whole
Speaker 4: lot of momentum for him and they ended up being
Speaker 4: being pretty good. All right, Look, if you guys want
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Speaker 4: Looking forward to that. But let's set the table for
Speaker 4: the rest of the show. Obviously, we'll continue to talk
Speaker 4: about this matchup. I'll go ahead and let you know
Speaker 4: I don't have a whole lot of things to add
Speaker 4: that I haven't already said. When it comes to this
Speaker 4: matchup and what is important for Louisville, we can certainly
Speaker 4: reset that. But one thing I will add is that
Speaker 4: Debo Sweeney. I went back and listened. I remember seeing
Speaker 4: some quotes from earlier this week from his press conference,
Speaker 4: just really talking of Louisville. But I ended up listening
Speaker 4: to his presser earlier today, and I mean, maybe it's
Speaker 4: just Dabbo and that's what he always does, and coaches
Speaker 4: are always going to talk up their opponent. So Dabo
Speaker 4: Sweeney saying that Louisville's got a pro quarterback and that
Speaker 4: Brown is one of the best running backs in the country,
Speaker 4: and that offensively, Louisville can go with anybody, Like that's
Speaker 4: what most coaches would say in that situation. But I
Speaker 4: believe him, Like it's such a weird year for Louisville.
Speaker 4: I think that this team is good. But the reason
Speaker 4: there's hesitancy to kind of finish that statement, Louisvill's a
Speaker 4: good football team because of the record and because of
Speaker 4: some of the things we've seen that are just like
Speaker 4: things you don't typically see good football teams do. Like
Speaker 4: it's such a weird year. Now, maybe I'm just in
Speaker 4: denial and my team isn't good, but I just can't.
Speaker 4: I can't accept it. So I'm just holding on. But
Speaker 4: I get I get the sense that a lot of
Speaker 4: Louisville fans sort of know exactly what I mean, despite
Speaker 4: probably not you know, making a lot of sense to.
Speaker 5: Others, like this team should be good.
Speaker 4: But it's not, like, you know, because how many team
Speaker 4: can say that at the end of the year that
Speaker 4: they should have been better, Like everybody says that. But
Speaker 4: the way in which everything has come together for Louisville
Speaker 4: or maybe the way it's falling apart in certain games,
Speaker 4: Like it's just been a weird year. And I think
Speaker 4: I've been pretty consistent, Like I wouldn't tell you that,
Speaker 4: Like I felt good about a game and I thought,
Speaker 4: like you know, I wouldn't be totally shocked if it had,
Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't say that I didn't believe it. Now again,
Speaker 4: I've been wrong about certain games that I was worried
Speaker 4: about or games that I, you know, felt like Louisville
Speaker 4: was gonna roll and then it didn't work out. So, like,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not just saying this to try to
Speaker 4: get people excited about the game. I mean, I hope
Speaker 4: you are excited about the game, but like I just,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not calling I'm not put I'm
Speaker 4: not predicting it. But when Dabo was talking about all
Speaker 4: the pieces Louisville has, I'm like, you know what, He's right,
Speaker 4: And again I had to remind myself many times throughout
Speaker 4: listening to that that this is just.
Speaker 5: What coaches do.
Speaker 4: They're going to talk up the other team before a game.
Speaker 4: That's again just how it works. But he was really
Speaker 4: talking up Louisville and that may be more confident. But
Speaker 4: maybe I'm falling into a trap. Maybe I'm internally getting
Speaker 4: my hopes up and then you know, I'll be let down.
Speaker 5: But I don't know.
Speaker 4: If they get killed, that's going to be a big
Speaker 4: let down. But if they're competitive and they play well,
Speaker 4: maybe play their most complete game, but come up short.
Speaker 4: I mean, we'll have to acknowledge that that, hey, they
Speaker 4: did take a step forward as far as playing better
Speaker 4: and cleaning some things up, but you know, they still
Speaker 4: lost at the end of the day. That would actually
Speaker 4: be like the ultimate gut punch. Like I don't know
Speaker 4: what would be worse. If they play really well and
Speaker 4: show that they're good enough to compete with Clemson on
Speaker 4: the road at Death Valley, but then they have another
Speaker 4: mental goof and it gives them no chance to win
Speaker 4: the game. Like I think that would be worse than
Speaker 4: just them getting killed. And when I say killed, I
Speaker 4: don't mean like by fifty, but like if they just
Speaker 4: end up, you know, getting down a couple of scores
Speaker 4: early and can never overcome that deficit. I mean, that
Speaker 4: would still suck. But I'm telling you, I think I
Speaker 4: may lose my mind if they continue to lose games
Speaker 4: the way they have against good teams throughout the year
Speaker 4: thus far. All right, I want to talk about it
Speaker 4: the ACC as a whole today, not necessarily about the
Speaker 4: race to the to the championship. You know, like we
Speaker 4: kind of know who's going to be in the mix.
Speaker 4: There could be a wild tire breaker that plays out,
Speaker 4: But the league has gotten better. The league is solid,
Speaker 4: and I think, to be honest with you, like this
Speaker 4: might be maybe not the best that the league's been
Speaker 4: like in a long long time. But I've been hard
Speaker 4: on the ACC in football, and I'm not saying that
Speaker 4: it's it's great, But like the more you look at
Speaker 4: teams right now, as far as the analytics and the metrics,
Speaker 4: like the ACC does deserve the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 4: at this point. I think when it comes not to
Speaker 4: say that they're the best league, but like you know,
Speaker 4: if Louisville beats Clemson, there will be many that just say,
Speaker 4: all Clemson, Yeah, they're frauds. They didn't play anybody until
Speaker 4: this game, and then they got killed by Georgia. Like,
Speaker 4: I know that's gonna be the reaction from a lot
Speaker 4: of people, but like I think it would mean that, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that leaks pretty deep, and I'm just curious if we're
Speaker 4: ever going to get there. But I'll lay out some
Speaker 4: numbers for you that you know aren't aren't me trying.
Speaker 4: You know, the numbers are aren't going to make you
Speaker 4: think that the ACC is the best league in the country,
Speaker 4: because it's not. But I think really the Big Ten,
Speaker 4: the ACC, and the Big twelve, Like I think there's
Speaker 4: a pretty distinct order.
Speaker 5: But we'll get to that a little bit later on.
Speaker 4: When it comes to the college football Playoff, I'm fascinated
Speaker 4: with a lot of the logistics here because The Athletic
Speaker 4: did a really good write up on sort of not
Speaker 4: knowing if you're going to host a college football playoff
Speaker 4: game until, like, you know, a little bit before. It
Speaker 4: is really a disaster for those putting the thing together,
Speaker 4: Like logistically, like hotel rooms getting blocked off, Like the
Speaker 4: amount of people that are going to becoming some of
Speaker 4: these schools that may host aren't even in big cities,
Speaker 4: so I never thought about the behind the scenes stuff.
Speaker 4: But it's one of those things that, yes, fans are
Speaker 4: all going to enjoy the expanded Playoff, but those that
Speaker 4: kind of work with logistics when it comes to these
Speaker 4: big events, and that's what big college football games are.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's really been a nightmare and also something
Speaker 4: else we can get to the I mean I saw
Speaker 4: a report from it might have been Andy Staples with
Speaker 4: the Athletic about the iPads being sent to everybody that's
Speaker 4: on the College Football Playoff committee. They're all getting iPads
Speaker 4: delivered to them that have forty five minute games that
Speaker 4: have been condensed and mixed. But it's like, you know
Speaker 4: it's been it's it's by a private company, not like
Speaker 4: the YouTube condensed game that you find from like all
Speaker 4: college football games. And it's just a reminder to me,
Speaker 4: and it pisses me off that like nobody just screams,
Speaker 4: like what are we doing here? The people who are
Speaker 4: making the decision as far as who gets in the
Speaker 4: College Football Playoff or who gets in the NAA Tournament
Speaker 4: for that matter, should not be the people that are
Speaker 4: doing it. These are great professionals, they're qualified people as
Speaker 4: far as like you know their position, but like they're
Speaker 4: athletic directors, they're chancellors. They're like, wouldn't you want somebody
Speaker 4: on the committee that like all they do is college football.
Speaker 4: All they do is analyze, assess, and like it's it
Speaker 4: is their main priority. You got people running schools, colleges,
Speaker 4: major universities that I'd say they're nine to five forty
Speaker 4: hours a week. They're not thinking of anything about college football.
Speaker 4: Like we make Funnel Nardi at least I make Funnel
Speaker 4: Nardi a lot. When you go look at who's on
Speaker 4: the selection committee and like everything that comes with their
Speaker 4: job and how secondary the committee is, Like Lenardi should
Speaker 4: be doing it because he at least is that's I mean,
Speaker 4: am I making sense here?
Speaker 3: John?
Speaker 4: Like nobody's ever really said that out loud, at least
Speaker 4: that I've heard. And it's not to say that these
Speaker 4: people are bums they don't know anything, but like one
Speaker 4: that they could be biased they work for a specific
Speaker 4: school or a conference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't really know what would happen in
Speaker 1: order to get this changed, because I feel like this
Speaker 1: has been the way of selection committees for.
Speaker 4: Some I mean, it's not changing, but like just seeing
Speaker 4: that is like there are people who are going to
Speaker 4: be deciding who gets in the playoff that the extent
Speaker 4: of their overall college football watching experience other than their
Speaker 4: own team probably is going to be just watching games
Speaker 4: on an iPad that are condensed like that. That just
Speaker 4: to me seems insane. But as you said, it's probably
Speaker 4: never changing.
Speaker 1: Spokesperson for the committee this year, do we know.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: It used to be Gary Barter from Iowa. It's rotating
Speaker 1: a bunch.
Speaker 4: It's rotated a bunch over the years. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: who it is this year, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Not to say that they'll put together a terrible groove,
Speaker 4: but like they got other.
Speaker 1: Stuff to do.
Speaker 4: That's you know, that's it's a little different. But let's
Speaker 4: get to our first break. We got to I'm a
Speaker 4: little bit later. I told doctor macklroy we'd get Tom
Speaker 4: a little earlier than we typically do, So apologies there,
Speaker 4: but we'll talk to doctor McElroy on the other side.
Speaker 4: Keep this through, keep this thing rolling along. When it
Speaker 4: comes to UK, I continue to say it, man, they've
Speaker 4: moved on from football season, and what's happened now is
Speaker 4: they're listening really closely to every little thing, Mark Stoops says,
Speaker 4: and that's what happens when you're in this situation, meaning
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Speaker 4: in Doctor Eric McElroy from pro Rea Physical Therapy.
Speaker 5: Do you have a good Halloween?
Speaker 3: Cheric man had a great Halloween?
Speaker 2: Nick uh, you know, just watching the It's always fun
Speaker 2: to watch the kids run around, you know, trick or
Speaker 2: treating all the different costumes.
Speaker 3: And my son is twelve.
Speaker 2: He's kind of to that age where he basically throws
Speaker 2: on a jersey and.
Speaker 3: That's who he is.
Speaker 5: That was my move back in the day.
Speaker 3: That's right, you'll appreciate. He was Dalton Connect, oh nice,
Speaker 3: oh west Side Connect, as Snoop Dogg would call him.
Speaker 3: Uh so, uh yeah.
Speaker 2: And then my daughter attempted to be like a blow
Speaker 2: up thing, which is always a mistake. So that lasted
Speaker 2: for like, you know, all of about one hundred yards
Speaker 2: and then it was on. She was running behind, you know,
Speaker 2: and so got to take that off.
Speaker 3: To catch up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be tough to go house to house
Speaker 4: with uh with if you're if you're inflated like that. Uh,
Speaker 4: but yeah, it worked out well with the wet least
Speaker 4: where we were it wasn't nice outside, but by the
Speaker 4: time we actually got out, it was it. It had
Speaker 4: stopped raining all together, and uh, you know, busy in
Speaker 4: my neighborhood, which was certainly certainly good to see. But
Speaker 4: I was chatting with some friends who came over and
Speaker 4: brought their kids, uh to trick or treat live night,
Speaker 4: and they were talking about how with the weather and
Speaker 4: the clocks are going to be changed, and it's going
Speaker 4: to be dark when a lot of people get home
Speaker 4: from work, which gives them little motivation to you know,
Speaker 4: go to the gym if it's dark outside. They just
Speaker 4: want to throw the sweatpants on and just you know,
Speaker 4: start lounging on the couch after dinner. I'm sure I
Speaker 4: don't I'm not asking you to reference any kind of
Speaker 4: any numbers like that, but like that's going to be
Speaker 4: a thing everywhere right where. It becomes like the time
Speaker 4: change for whatever reason, just makes people less I shouldn't
Speaker 4: say motivated, but it's just a lot easier to just
Speaker 4: stay home than then get to the gym like you
Speaker 4: typically do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're headed into that season where the
Speaker 2: sunlight we're not present in sunlight as much, right, so
Speaker 2: we wake up, we go to work, it's kind of dark.
Speaker 2: We get home, it's dark. I think that you know,
Speaker 2: that creates some motivation issues. You get into the holidays,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, coming out of Halloween and now
Speaker 2: you're looking down to a busy time of year, you know,
Speaker 2: with travel and family coming in and out and not
Speaker 2: necessarily eating the right foods, and so it creates you know,
Speaker 2: a lot more you know, alcohol consumption and things like that,
Speaker 2: which we all experience because of the holidays, which is
Speaker 2: a lot of fun, but at the same time can
Speaker 2: get us off track and some of those goals, and
Speaker 2: then you're you're kind of finishing your year from a
Speaker 2: fitness standpoint on not on the best note.
Speaker 3: So what I usually try to explain to people is
Speaker 3: just simplify it, you know, make it, you know, don't
Speaker 3: you know, have a plan.
Speaker 2: It's just like anything, you know, know, the season that
Speaker 2: you're in, you know, simplify it, focus on some things
Speaker 2: that are you know, go for walks.
Speaker 3: You know, evening walks. Uh. You know something there's it's
Speaker 3: it's peaceful at.
Speaker 2: Night, a lot of times quieter, you know, so you
Speaker 2: know you I think, I think sometimes we feel like
Speaker 2: we have to break this amazing sweat and and wear
Speaker 2: ourselves out when we can also keep it simple, uh,
Speaker 2: and go out and walks, you know, go extra walk,
Speaker 2: go a little extra, you know, add some speed to
Speaker 2: your walk, make a little more intense, do some calisthenics,
Speaker 2: you know, body weight squats and push ups and things
Speaker 2: that we you know, we take for granted that we
Speaker 2: can basically do in our house.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: So you know, make it simple, make it work for
Speaker 2: your schedule so you're consistent. And then you know, started
Speaker 2: back up to me in the year when you're trying
Speaker 2: to work off that holiday.
Speaker 4: Wait you mentioned towards the end, I'd never really thought
Speaker 4: about it. Quarter the fourth quarter of the year is
Speaker 4: the temptation is there with all the events with Thanksgiving,
Speaker 4: Christmas and even you know, obviously Halloween just wrapped up.
Speaker 4: I know everybody's got a lot of candy at their house,
Speaker 4: so for me. I guess it's just my personality. I
Speaker 4: would typically towards the end of the year kind of
Speaker 4: slowly start to not be as active, right, not going
Speaker 4: to the gym to get my run in as much.
Speaker 4: And then once I realize I've kind of taken somewhat
Speaker 4: of a step back over the years, I've kind of
Speaker 4: just said, well, okay, you know, I guess I'll start
Speaker 4: back in January like everybody else. But that just makes
Speaker 4: it a lot harder. So I feel like I just
Speaker 4: need to, you know, don't take off the holidays, meaning like,
Speaker 4: still enjoy it, you know, enjoy Thanksgiving, enjoy some adult
Speaker 4: beverages with your family when you celebrate, but like, you know,
Speaker 4: try to find balance, try to find time to get
Speaker 4: a little bit of exercise in between. That's probably the
Speaker 4: best case scenario, you know. I mean some people probably
Speaker 4: try not to, you know, go all go all out
Speaker 4: with the holidays, but that wouldn't be any fun, no,
Speaker 4: And you.
Speaker 2: Know, commit yourself to something, you know, uh uh, Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: five k. You know, there's always these Turkey trots, all
Speaker 2: these different things. Do it as a family, even if
Speaker 2: you're not trying to win the race, you know, you're
Speaker 2: just gonna go out there.
Speaker 3: But if you commit yourself to something, you have a goal.
Speaker 2: Then we know that we're gonna be more like, we're
Speaker 2: more likely gonna do what we have to to achieve
Speaker 2: the goals.
Speaker 3: So the other thing is there's a lot of good studies.
Speaker 2: Around doing going on a moderate walk after you eat, uh,
Speaker 2: and so you know, playing that in the evening after
Speaker 2: your meals. You know, I think naturally just biology, a
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of animals if you will not
Speaker 2: you know, I know some people. I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: compareison animals necessarily, but to say, like, you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of you know different other animals will go into
Speaker 2: hibernation a lot of times, or they'll show themselves down
Speaker 2: in the cold winter months. Right, and we're similar. Right,
Speaker 2: We're not gonna go out and be as active a
Speaker 2: lot of times. But take the time to you know,
Speaker 2: after you know, you have a heavy meal or you're
Speaker 2: having you know, Thanksgiving, or doing something go for a
Speaker 2: longer walk or something to help you know, spike your metabolism,
Speaker 2: you know, burn the blood sugar off a little bit quicker.
Speaker 3: Things like that are really important.
Speaker 4: Doctor Rik mclroy, pro you have physical therapy is our
Speaker 4: guests joining us here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Before
Speaker 4: I get to a couple of injuries, I wanted to
Speaker 4: ask you about. This was a question that came in
Speaker 4: recently for one of our listeners for the next time
Speaker 4: we chatted with you or Larry, and I think and
Speaker 4: I'm trying to to to reference what the question essentially was,
Speaker 4: and I believe I have it correct. But this is
Speaker 4: a gentleman who golfs a lot during the summer, even
Speaker 4: in the fall, but obviously not not He's not golfing
Speaker 4: in the winter months right like November, December, January, February,
Speaker 4: probably not a whole lot of golf going on, with
Speaker 4: golf being the only physical activity that he, you know,
Speaker 4: really does. What are some things that could be done
Speaker 4: during that off time that would make it to where
Speaker 4: when you do like injury prevention, like, what are some
Speaker 4: things you could do that's not actually playing golf that
Speaker 4: would make it to where when you do get your game,
Speaker 4: get your clubs back out maybe in you know, late
Speaker 4: winter early spring, that you know you're you're not as
Speaker 4: rusty and you may, you know, be able to prevent
Speaker 4: some type of an injury happening.
Speaker 3: So that's a great question.
Speaker 2: And you know, we talk a lot about athletes on here.
Speaker 2: We came from the athletic world. You know, every athlete
Speaker 2: has an off season of some kind. Now they all
Speaker 2: look different depending on the sport. But during that all
Speaker 2: seasons when you really want to work on the things
Speaker 2: that you just mentioned, preventing an injury number one. Number two,
Speaker 2: improving your performance, getting your way, getting yourself away from
Speaker 2: the sport a little bit, to allow your body to
Speaker 2: work on some deficiencies that could be either causing some
Speaker 2: of your injuries or or creating challenges with your ability
Speaker 2: to improve your clubhead speed for instance. So I think
Speaker 2: that you know, do some things that would help mobility wise,
Speaker 2: that would be number one. A lot of our amateur
Speaker 2: golfers will say middle ages, you know, those those age
Speaker 2: groups deal with a lot of mobility uh issues that
Speaker 2: frankly will impede their ability to perform a golf swinging
Speaker 2: the way that they need to, and then that could
Speaker 2: create issues with the distance on their.
Speaker 3: Ball, try flight, or other things like that. So injuries,
Speaker 3: you know, work on your general fitness.
Speaker 2: You know, I think that we lose site that you know,
Speaker 2: if you're playing, you know, golf for four or five hours.
Speaker 2: There's a level of endurance as it takes, and a
Speaker 2: lot of golfers struggle at the end of their rounds
Speaker 2: and there's reason for that.
Speaker 3: So working on your endurance, you can do that. But
Speaker 3: it doesn't have to look like golf.
Speaker 2: You can do some again aggressive or moderate walking, running,
Speaker 2: and then strength. So I think that you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of times we skip string training, and I think
Speaker 2: we can overcomplicate strength training, but at the same time
Speaker 2: we can continue, you know, whether that's byweight best or
Speaker 2: some medicine balls and work on body weight squads and
Speaker 2: lunges and lunges with rotation. Things that are improved our
Speaker 2: ability to stay stable number one.
Speaker 3: And to be strong and uh. And that again obviously
Speaker 3: will translate to your ability to perform better at golf. UH.
Speaker 2: And that goes with any sport. You know, taking some
Speaker 2: time to work on those impairments, work on things that
Speaker 2: you don't do a lot to you know, bring as
Speaker 2: much better blence to your bodies you possibly can. Extremely
Speaker 2: extremely important.
Speaker 4: All right, So a couple questions when it comes to
Speaker 4: some injuries. Well, one is not about an injury specifically,
Speaker 4: but I'm seeing in the last thirty forty five minutes
Speaker 4: there've been some reports from different college football guys out
Speaker 4: there Pete Damil, Brett McMurphy that are that are breaking
Speaker 4: news in regards to to players getting cleared being able
Speaker 4: to play in tomorrow's big game. I know Penn State's
Speaker 4: quarterback sounds like he's gonna go. Same thing with Kevin
Speaker 4: Jennings who was initially ruled out for SMU's game.
Speaker 5: But as someone who.
Speaker 4: Is experienced in athlete training, sports performance, that kind of stuff,
Speaker 4: I guess it all depends a little bit on what
Speaker 4: the injury is. But what what's the like when you
Speaker 4: get this close to a game a day before and
Speaker 4: you are the trainer and you're not quite sure if
Speaker 4: if you're going to give the player the green light
Speaker 4: or not, Like, what's the what's the process in the
Speaker 4: final steps to kind of make that decision?
Speaker 5: Is it? Is it just kind of reviewing everything?
Speaker 4: Is it maybe one last test to see how how
Speaker 4: impacted the athlete is. I'm just curious because I know
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of fans and even players
Speaker 4: themsel else I'm sure anticipating, Hey, are we going to
Speaker 4: get our guy out there.
Speaker 5: Is he gonna be able to go?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of different levels of return to
Speaker 2: play testing and that's what he's that's.
Speaker 3: What they're going through.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Now, every injury, as you mentioned, it is a little
Speaker 2: different how you approach that. But a lot of time,
Speaker 2: excuse me, what we're doing is we're saying, I we've
Speaker 2: gone through some testing to give us an idea of
Speaker 2: what kind of deficits or deficiencies still exists because of
Speaker 2: the injury a lot once we've passed that phase where
Speaker 2: now we're not seeing a whole lot of difference. Now
Speaker 2: we need to see how they move in an athletic
Speaker 2: environment in which they're you know, anticipating be able to
Speaker 2: perform it and can they do that?
Speaker 3: Are they moving well? Uh? In that way? And it
Speaker 3: seems simple, but it's not. You know, are they able
Speaker 3: to cut like we want them to?
Speaker 2: Are they able to decelerate and accelerate like we're wanting
Speaker 2: can they jump? Can they tolerate or take impacts if
Speaker 2: it's contact sports for instance, and in a way that
Speaker 2: we need them to. What's their speed? What's their high
Speaker 2: end speed look like? You know, are they able to
Speaker 2: get there? It doesn't have to be perfect. We're in season,
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys are banged up, and so
Speaker 2: you anticipate that. But what we're trying to do is
Speaker 2: maximize their ability one to not re injure it, which
Speaker 2: would would not be good at all. Or and two,
Speaker 2: you know, can they perform at the level that they
Speaker 2: need to in order to participate. And I think that
Speaker 2: that's you know, some of that's intuition, some of that
Speaker 2: takes experience, some of that's testing that's more objective. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, and so you put all that together and
Speaker 2: you kind of determined the risk reward at that point
Speaker 2: if the athlete is capable of going.
Speaker 3: And then it's a position specific too. Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, an arm injury and a quarterback is different
Speaker 2: than an alignment uh. And so you know, it's a
Speaker 2: lot of it's just kind of based on what the
Speaker 2: what they're gonna have to be able to do, and
Speaker 2: are they going to be able to do it enough
Speaker 2: to to contribute to the team, uh in the way
Speaker 2: that they're expected to.
Speaker 4: All Right, So Cooper, Cup and Poop and Akua both
Speaker 4: made their return last week for the Rams, and UH
Speaker 4: it was impactful, to say the least because the Rams
Speaker 4: were really struggling, and then with those two weapons out
Speaker 4: there at receiver, they were able to pull off a
Speaker 4: pretty big upset, knocking off a really really hot I
Speaker 4: think it was Detroit Lions team. So I guess my
Speaker 4: question is, when you have guys that have been out
Speaker 4: for really almost the whole season, make that return as
Speaker 4: you have played your first game since the injury, what's
Speaker 4: what's the week the next week? Like, I mean, I
Speaker 4: would imagine it was probably pretty light for these guys.
Speaker 4: Or maybe I'm wrong, Maybe it's hey making sure that
Speaker 4: they don't get stiff because that was their first time playing,
Speaker 4: you know, real live contact football since the injury. Because
Speaker 4: both guys are still listed as questionable. At least they
Speaker 4: were in like my fantasy football league, and it just
Speaker 4: reminded me that, Yeah, I'm sure, like you know, if
Speaker 4: you're somebody that's really basing it off of fantasy football
Speaker 4: or wagering like you wouldn't be totally shocked if these guys,
Speaker 4: after coming back from a long time off, might still
Speaker 4: need maybe a little more time.
Speaker 2: Well, you're you're treating them as if they you were
Speaker 2: before you you kind of work player athletes back into
Speaker 2: the game. Is what I always say, like you're, you're
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see them or treat them in the training
Speaker 2: staff and the people you know, rehab, they're all continuing
Speaker 2: to work on these same things that they were dealing
Speaker 2: with before, because now you're trying to stay ahead of it.
Speaker 3: Now we've got some momentum.
Speaker 2: We got them to the point they can play, you.
Speaker 3: Know, let's keep them there. So, especially in season, you
Speaker 3: don't have time to to get a you know, relapse. Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, you're trying to minimize that as
Speaker 2: best you can. So, yeah, you're hyper focused on continuing
Speaker 2: to do what you're doing. They're just able to play now,
Speaker 2: so and a lot of times, you know, you're still
Speaker 2: trying to get it even closer to one hundred percent
Speaker 2: if you will, as you possibly can.
Speaker 3: So they may be playing, but they still may have
Speaker 3: some things that we need to work on. So yeah,
Speaker 3: you're you're, I mean, it's it's still full board trying
Speaker 3: to address the issues.
Speaker 2: That are there, uh, and to keep them healthy and
Speaker 2: keep them where they can keep playing week to week.
Speaker 2: And you know, some weeks that looks better than others.
Speaker 2: So and they may have a relapse and then you
Speaker 2: go to That's why they stay questionable a lot of times,
Speaker 2: you know, on our fantasy football and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: makes us nervous if they're gonna play or not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was me.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've got I've got Pooka Nakua and he
Speaker 4: was one of my early picks and I haven't haven't
Speaker 4: had a chance to really utilize him yet, and he
Speaker 4: came up big last week, so I'm hoping he can
Speaker 4: keep it going for the sake of my fantasy team,
Speaker 4: of course, not because I want him to be healthy.
Speaker 4: I'm just a selfish fantasy football guy.
Speaker 3: You know, the only place for a little bit. So
Speaker 3: oh yeah, you're like, damn it.
Speaker 4: Yep, I've been there many many times every week actually,
Speaker 4: now that I think about it. But Eric, I appreciate
Speaker 4: the time as always. Enjoy your weekend. We'll talk to
Speaker 4: somebody awesome man.
Speaker 3: Have you go with Nick?
Speaker 5: You too? Take care.
Speaker 4: That's doctor Eric McElroy from pro Rea Physical Therapy. Always
Speaker 4: appreciate his time, good conversation. Let's take a quick break.
Speaker 4: We'll come back on the other side wrap up the
Speaker 4: three o'clock hour. A lot more to get into as
Speaker 4: we get you out of here for the weekend. Big
Speaker 4: weekend for Louisville football, no doubt, big weekend for Indiana
Speaker 4: football too. He hasn't said it, but I think John's
Speaker 4: getting a little nervous.
Speaker 1: I've been nervous all week.
Speaker 4: You throw this game up like three weeks ago, like
Speaker 4: just you know, cause I think you could see, hey,
Speaker 4: we can go beat these teams in front of us.
Speaker 4: But then you're like that Michigan State game.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: That could be the one where they're just like you know,
Speaker 5: maybe they fall flat.
Speaker 1: But I will say, now that Curtis Rourke has been
Speaker 1: given the green light, I do have a big extra
Speaker 1: juice of call. Yeah that's going into this Saturday.
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Speaker 1: Oh did I Now I'll get with the under.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 4: I was making my wager right as soon as the
Speaker 4: show ended, and I thought, you know what, I still
Speaker 4: believed in the Texans at the time, but I thought,
Speaker 4: you know what, John's right, the better play there is,
Speaker 4: in fact the under. So I parlayed that in Tulane
Speaker 4: and Charlotte didn't have to didn't have to sweat that
Speaker 4: out because it was a blowout thirty four to three.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I was able to cash in. And you know,
Speaker 4: I feel like I owe you something. What I owe
Speaker 4: you name it? What do you need?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 5: I don't want to be in debt to you.
Speaker 1: Just pay me back with another good pick.
Speaker 5: Okay, we can do that. In fact, let's set it up.
Speaker 4: Let's make an appointment at five thirty two to go
Speaker 4: over our picks, because I've got a few of them
Speaker 4: and it really is setting up to be a big weekend.
Speaker 4: I mean, you've got two matchups with two really good teams.
Speaker 4: Obviously that whatever happens is going to be maybe not
Speaker 4: the ultimately. For example, whoever loses in the Penn State
Speaker 4: Ohio State game. If Penn State loses, they're just become
Speaker 4: potentially a one loss team like everybody, like the others
Speaker 4: in the league. If it's Ohio State, I think it
Speaker 4: would make it really difficult for them to get in
Speaker 4: the playoff. But then again, like I don't know, there's
Speaker 4: still scenarios. So it's not like we can sit here
Speaker 4: and say, well, hey, whatever happens here, you're either going
Speaker 4: to win and keep your hope alive, or if you lose,
Speaker 4: you know for sure you're done. I mean the probability
Speaker 4: is not great, but you know, because there's now twelve teams,
Speaker 4: there's more potential scenarios that could play out that you know,
Speaker 4: give you a break here and there, and there's you know,
Speaker 4: so I remember early on though, in the early playoff era,
Speaker 4: like or I guess, the initial four team playoff era,
Speaker 4: I mean you knew, like, hey, you lose one game,
Speaker 4: depending on who you are, you're done. Because only four
Speaker 4: teams are getting in now it's you know, twelve and
Speaker 4: it's it's it's made it a lot more fun, so
Speaker 4: we can't again.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: The big, the big talking point about why college football
Speaker 4: was unique and why it's it's so great is that
Speaker 4: because you only have a twelve game regular season and
Speaker 4: there's no there was no real playoff. In fact, for
Speaker 4: a long time, there was just computers that told us
Speaker 4: which two teams are going to play for the national
Speaker 4: championship in the BCS era, but every week really mattered,
Speaker 4: and like you you know, every week you lose, you know,
Speaker 4: doesn't mean your season's over, but if you are somebody
Speaker 4: striving to be you know, the very you know, win
Speaker 4: the national championship, depending on who you were, one loss
Speaker 4: would mean you're done. The others if you did take
Speaker 4: one loss at that point, the pressure's on the rest
Speaker 4: of the way for you to just not screw up.
Speaker 4: So that was awesome, But I still think this is
Speaker 4: better where there's more teams alive later on in the year,
Speaker 4: and you know that leads to high stakes games and
Speaker 4: that's what you have tomorrow. Pitt and Smu I mean
Speaker 4: Pitt wins. I mean, by the way, did you see
Speaker 4: the stat about Pitt. I I mean I was not
Speaker 4: a believer at all in them earlier this year, but
Speaker 4: I'll admit hand up. The reason I laughed off Pitt
Speaker 4: as being a like legitimately good team was because they
Speaker 4: were down twenty one points to Scott Saderfield in the
Speaker 4: second half and managed to come back and win, which
Speaker 4: is impressive by Pitt. But I remember thinking, yeah, that's
Speaker 4: what Sad does. Well, then they've just dominated everybody they
Speaker 4: played for the most part. I mean there's seven and
Speaker 4: oh and ranked eighteenth. That's tied for the lowest ranking
Speaker 4: of any seven and oh power conference team in the
Speaker 4: history of the A people. So they actually have a
Speaker 4: good right of being the most disrespected team in college football.
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean they're the best, doesn't mean people need to
Speaker 4: put them in the top five, but they probably should
Speaker 4: be getting a little more love. In fact, give you
Speaker 4: an example, this was the comparison David Hill throughout there
Speaker 4: earlier this week. Team A ranked third in the country
Speaker 4: seven and oh nineteen points per game margin fifty two
Speaker 4: opponent zero point five to two to one opponent win percentage,
Speaker 4: So their opponents are winning just a little bit over
Speaker 4: half their games and They are two and oh against
Speaker 4: FPI Top forty teams. That's Team A and their ranked
Speaker 4: number three, Team B is pit ranked eighteenth, seven and
Speaker 4: oh nineteen points per game margin, and their opponents are
Speaker 4: winning fifty three percent of their games. Therefore, they have
Speaker 4: a slightly tougher schedule as far as wins. They also
Speaker 4: are two and oh against teams in the FPI Top forty.
Speaker 4: Team A was Penn State. Like if people again, sometimes
Speaker 4: like you don't really I mean sometimes you can not
Speaker 4: be basing it totally off of what a team's done
Speaker 4: like previously, and what their brand, what their history is.
Speaker 4: So like for example, if if you presented me a
Speaker 4: blind resume and you know, I then later found out
Speaker 4: you know, wow, it's surprising. But still, like long story short,
Speaker 4: I'm not saying Penn State is is a fraud. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying Pitt's better than them. But like if you
Speaker 4: are looking at these two teams and you are just
Speaker 4: gonna and you are going to justify the gap in ranking,
Speaker 4: you're really only doing it because of Penn State usually
Speaker 4: is pretty good or in they're in the Big ten.
Speaker 4: And again this isn't me telling you Pitt's actually better
Speaker 4: than Penn State. But there's such a gap there, and
Speaker 4: I think the perception of those two programs are not
Speaker 4: really in the same ballpark. And if you're basing it
Speaker 4: off of anything, you'd have to be basing it off
Speaker 4: of well, Penn State's Penn State and their pit like
Speaker 4: Pitt was awful last year, which which you know, hand up.
Speaker 4: That's why I was a little bit hesitant to like
Speaker 4: see this as anything other than maybe a fluky successful start.
Speaker 4: But man, in the portal era, especially with coach that
Speaker 4: have proven they can be pretty good, that's Pat Nordoozi.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't be scared to expect a big jump from
Speaker 4: a team because you can. I mean, it can all
Speaker 4: be brand new, right, I mean, it'd be rare for
Speaker 4: you know, everybody who starts on both sides of the
Speaker 4: ball all to be newcomers. But hey, there's plenty of
Speaker 4: teams out there that seventy five percent of the guys
Speaker 4: on the field at any given moment were not there
Speaker 4: the year before because they transferred in. So, you know,
Speaker 4: Pitt SMU, I feel like there'll be no grace, right,
Speaker 4: There's no grace at all for either of these two teams.
Speaker 4: But big ten teams will get that. And again it's
Speaker 4: just because of your perception of the league and your
Speaker 4: perception of.
Speaker 5: The ACC and.
Speaker 4: Not just the league, but like Penn State's a big brand,
Speaker 4: right typically they're pretty good under James Franklin. So anyways,
Speaker 4: I just thought that was interesting. So there's Penn State SMU.
Speaker 4: Who's the other one? There's Penn State SMU, not Penn
Speaker 4: State SMU, and Penn.
Speaker 5: State Ohio State.
Speaker 4: Would you think if they lose that, John that that's
Speaker 4: like the High State's just like they're going to be
Speaker 4: removed from the conversation.
Speaker 1: Maybe temporarily, but two losses you could still sneak your
Speaker 1: way in as maybe an eleven or a ten seed,
Speaker 1: especially if you look good in the last part of
Speaker 1: your season. So I don't think they'll be completely eliminated,
Speaker 1: but they'll definitely be on the outside looking in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say of the games this weekend, I mean,
Speaker 4: you really have really I mean, I don't know, like
Speaker 4: Texas A and him in South Carolina kind of intrigues
Speaker 4: me from like a wagering aspect, But the best two
Speaker 4: games I think are Ohio State, Penn State, and then
Speaker 4: Pitt SMU just as we laid out and then louisvill Clemson.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to be a homer and
Speaker 4: act like that's a game everybody's going to be wanting
Speaker 4: to see. But it is prime time, I mean seven
Speaker 4: forty five at night at Clemson, so I'm sure there'll
Speaker 4: be a lot of people watching. Florida Georgia used to
Speaker 4: be a big game. Not as much now. However, Billy
Speaker 4: Napier like, if he's competitive and they just fall short,
Speaker 4: like he could end up with a very mediocre record,
Speaker 4: But if his teams have looked a lot better, maybe
Speaker 4: Florida doesn't make the move to fire because you got
Speaker 4: to keep in mind the guy that they want, and
Speaker 4: they probably still want him. I was going to say wanted,
Speaker 4: but they probably still want Lane Kiffin. But he didn't
Speaker 4: look as good now does he. Like he has the
Speaker 4: best roster he's ever had as a coach, and anytime
Speaker 4: they play anybody good, they lose, or they lose to Kentucky.
Speaker 4: Who who will finish with one win and sec.
Speaker 5: Play this year?
Speaker 1: Not gonna lie if I'm Indiana, I want billion Apier
Speaker 1: to keep doing the good game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hell yeah, go Gators. Right, let's get the chomp
Speaker 4: going baby, and then Oregon. Michigan was supposed to be good,
Speaker 4: but Oregon should smash him. And then after that, there's
Speaker 4: not a whole lot to like when it comes to
Speaker 4: the slate, but that's just for like, you know, good
Speaker 4: teams playing each other. There's still some good games to
Speaker 4: bet on, and we're going to do that and we'll
Speaker 4: discuss those picks with you guys coming up a little
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