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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Dylan here with something a little bit different today.

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So one of my favorite shows is a little reality

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show you may have heard of called Survivor that's been

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going on since the early two thousands up until today,

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still going strong, and just recently CBS announced the cast

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of Survivor fifty, which is the first returning.

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Speaker 2: Player season in a while. Now. I love Survivor.

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Speaker 1: I've watched it since I was a kid. I've watched

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it since before I even have a memory, Like I'm

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pretty sure my family and I watched since season one,

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but I have very few memories of those first few seasons,

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just because I was so young at that given time.

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I've kind of gone up and down in terms of

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my interest over the years, but it's kind of been

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a family thing. I've always watched it with my parents

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or even if I'm not near my parents, we always

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check in and talk about kind of the water cooler

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moments of the episodes week to week and years to

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years at this point. So it's a show I love

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very much, and I thought this would be kind of

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fun to go in here and just kind of share

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my thoughts my reactions to the cast announcement. Now Survivor

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of fifty is not actually happening until like next spring.

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Well they're out there right now on the island filming,

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but it won't be airing till next spring. I think

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it could be fun to do like a draft or something.

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We've done drafts in the Discord before. If you're interested

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in Survivor, definitely joined the Discord where we have a

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channel dedicated talking about it, which you know, a bit

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of a ghost town sometimes, but every once in a

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while we're having discussions in there, and we did a

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draft at one point for a couple seasons, maybe forty three,

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forty four or something like that. But I'm thinking it'd

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be fun to bring it back for fifty. Maybe I'll

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get like Travis and Jessica in there too, because they're

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also big Survivor fans. Maybe Travis has lapsed a little bit,

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but I think he still has that kind of passing interest.

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He was reacting to the Survivor fifty cast announcement too,

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But yeah, I just wanted to share this here, and

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you know, if Survivor is something you guys want to

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hear more of, I could probably bring it up on

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like a newscast kind of thing. Like, I don't think

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I want to get to the point where I'm doing

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weekly recap episodes. I don't really that interest. But I think,

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you know, a reaction here to our returning season doing

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the Giraffe something like that could be fun. So yeah,

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if you want to hear more Survivor content, I mean,

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there's a million podcasts out there that do that, but hey,

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if you want to hear from us, let me know

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and join. Definitely joined the discord and chat with us

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in there. So yeah, let's talk about Survivor fifty. This

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is the first returning season since Survivor forty, which was

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Winterers at War, which means it's been a while since

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we've had the opportunity for a lot of players to return. Obviously,

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back in forty you were limited there. You could only

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pick from like, what thirty eight people because there's you know,

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two time winner in there, So thirty thirty nine people

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that were eligible for that season in the first place.

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So obviously a much smaller pool than like Survivor fifty,

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which had a pool of like seven hundred plus people

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that could have been on there. And there's been a

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lot of rumors of people who were caught who were

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in the running who have been removed from the cast,

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and obviously they whittled it down to an eventual twenty

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four people that are out there right now, with a

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mix of New Era people, Middle era people, old school people.

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all over the place. I don't really think it has

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much of a theme. It seems like there's a few

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legends in there, but there's a few first timers. There's

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a lot of New Era people, a lot of people

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from just the most recent seasons, so it's kind of

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a mixed match. It's kind of all over the place.

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I think my just general reaction or thoughts on the

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cast as a whole, Like if I was to go

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percentage wise, I'd say I'm happy with like fifty or

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like fifty sixty percent of the cast, which maybe doesn't

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sound like a lot, but this is a huge cast.

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last few seasons they've done in the cast of eighteen,

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so three tribes of six at the beginning, they often do,

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you know, tribes of twenty to two teams of ten

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something like that, and I don't know if there's ever

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been more than twenty and now we're all the way

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up at twenty four, so it's a pretty big jump.

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thirty nine days long to just twenty six days a long,

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so we have twenty four players to whittle down in

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twenty six days. I think because of that, this season's

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gonna be super messy, Like we're not gonna have a

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ton of time for super in depth strategy or like

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deep connections from players, like just forming connections here on

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the island.

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Speaker 2: Like I think we'll probably.

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feel like there's a lot of like you know, people's

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relationships before this season kind of coming.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be a mess I would

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say the odds are low that's gonna be a great season,

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but I think it could still be a lot of fun,

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and there's a lot of great people in here. So yeah,

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like I said, like maybe half the people I'm stoked about,

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but you know that is still like twelve ish people,

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which is quite a lot as far as that's like

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almost as much as a regular Survivor season, so there's

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a lot to break down here. I have all sorts

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of random thoughts will share at the end, but I

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think I'll just right now go through person by person

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and we'll talk about all of them. There's really only

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like three people in here that I don't have anything

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to say about, and first one of those is gonna

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be the first person. So Jenna Lewis, who is on

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back for All All Stars, just because it's been so

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long since I've watched either of these seasons. Also like

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these seasons, so I really don't have much to say

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on her. I think I don't know if I'll do

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a rewatch of those seasons prior to this, but I'll

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probably just watch like Jenna Lewis's best moments on YouTube,

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like a ten minute clip that just has all of

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her good stuff, because I don't really know much about her.

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a big number. It's kind of a big anniversary type number.

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and that's cool to bring her back. You know, obviously

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she's on All Stars, but like forty nine seasons later

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to come back, that's pretty iconic for any TV show ever,

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I think, so it'll be cool. I don't really know

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what to expect from her at the moment. I feel

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like her threat level would probably be pretty low, would

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be my prediction, So I think she could do pretty well.

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there wasn't even hidden immunity titles in the game, right,

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you know, staple of like Survivor and strategy and stuff.

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the game has changed a lot in whatever. However many

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seasons it's been since she's last been on, I think

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appearance to most recent appearance. Is Jenna here, So that's

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that's pretty cool. So I'm excited to see her. I

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think that'll be fun to have an old school person

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that I'm not too familiar with, And like I said,

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before this Surider fifty comes out. Next up is Colby.

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early era of the show. He was first on the

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second season and then came back for All Stars, and

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then was on Heroes Versus Villains. This is one I'm

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not really that excited about. I think I think back

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to Heroes of His Villains, which is probably the best

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season in the show's history. He was on there, but

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he was definitely not like the player that he was

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in his first couple of seasons. I remember even back

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then just kind of being underwhelmed. And there's like the

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famous quote from I Think James who called him like

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Superman in a fat suit, because he back in the

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day was like a challenge beast to huge you know,

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physical presence. But on Heroes of His Villains he was

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just kind of there. And so he's not very memorable

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and lost, So I just don't even know, like story wise,

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what we're gonna get. I don't know if he's been

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keeping up and if the strategy and pace is something

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that he'll thrive in. He is an iconic name. I'd

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see why they picked him, but personally, I'm not that

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excited for him, unfortunately. Next up is Stephanie Lea Grossa,

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incredibly famous person, one of the most famous people in

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Survivor history, just in terms of the show. You know,

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was so huge in the early two thousands and it's

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the biggest shows on TV, and she was definitely a

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staple name. So it's cool that they got her in here.

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says here on this article that she got nineteenth Here's

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Verse Villain. So she went out pretty early and I

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don't really remember her much from that. So another one

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that I'm not too excited about, to be honest, But

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we'll see what she's a to do. I'm open to it.

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I think maybe she's got some some fight in her.

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TV shows recently, so that could be interesting, like, you know,

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getting her head back in the game, even if Survivor

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is a bit bit of a different beast. So we'll

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see what happens there. Next up is Sirie. Now this

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is this is a tricky one because you know, this

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is gonna be her fifth time out, sixth if you

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include that the fact that she's going on an Australian Survivor

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or she already did but hasn't aired yet something like that.

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as well. So if you factor that in, like six

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time playing six times playing the game of Survivor, and

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course there's always that opportunity to like get that full

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circle moment close it out. She's one of the people

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who has gotten so close so many times. Of course,

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in Micronesia, the fans vers favorite season. You know, kind

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of a surprise final two at the end of that

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season where she thought, okay, I'm made it to the

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final three, I'm in the final tribe. I can pitch

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my case that they kind of rug pulled into the

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final two, and then she got voted out and obviously

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couldn't win the game at that point.

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came back for Game Changers and went out in like

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an iconic but also really savage way, which is that

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everyone that I think it was the final six and

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everyone else was immune. You know, one person of the necklace,

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a couple of idols were played. I don't even know

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how other people were. I don't know how five people

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were immune. I can't even remember how that possibly could

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have happened. But obviously just advantages everywhere everyone played them.

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a pretty Honestly, it's a pretty iconic way to end

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her Survivor career. I think if that was the final

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season she was on because it's like, hey, I've done

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the best I can. It is like raw dumb luck

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even if she didn't play the best game, but just

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Oscars they kind of just give someone like a legacy

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oscar almost you know, it's like, ah, it's your turn

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to get this and get this award, that kind of thing.

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I feel like I could see that situation happening with

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Suri here. So she's always good TV, she's always fun.

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She's an icon of the show. Five times says a lot.

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But she's one of the few people, like you know,

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that's worth an exception like that. Next up would be Ozzy,

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and this is a really interesting one to compare and

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contrast again, so he's also coming out for his fifth

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time here. You know, Ozzy, when I was a kid,

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was my favorite player. He was like the jungle boy type.

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He was climbing trees, getting coconuts, he was fishing, he

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was winning all these challenges. That's not really my preferred

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archetype anymore. And I also think just you know, his

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most recent appearance, which was on Game Changers, he was

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just sleeping out of the wheel. He really phoned that in,

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and that's why I was not really that excited to

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see him come back. However, he is a player like

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Siri that I feel like he doesn't really get as

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much credit for how close he's been to winning the

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game twice. I think we kind of just underestimate him

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because he's not a huge strategist or anything like that.

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But like his first season, he got to Final Tribal

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and I think he lost by one vote something like that,

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so like one person's change of a vote could have

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he could have been a winner. And then in South Pacific,

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which was like the season that was built around him,

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and coach had this Redemption Island thing, and he did

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some crazy stunt where he like intentionally got voted out

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so that he could go to Redemption Island and win

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all these challenges to fight his way back into the game.

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And he did that, and he got like all the

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way to the end and then just got like voted

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out at fourth or something and just was, you know,

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one vote away from Final Tribal and I think if

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he had made it to final he would have definitely

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got the w there. So yeah, he like even more

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than like Sie, like he probably was so close to

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two wins, like in two separate seasons, and just barely

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didn't get it.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's little bit older now, does he still

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have that fighting him? Is he's still going to be

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doing all this crazy stuff? Is that what I want

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to see? Not necessarily, So I'm a little low on

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this one, not too hype, even if he is similar

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to Sree in that same way.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll see give him a chance, but yeah, this is

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not one I was too excited for it because we've

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seen him so much and I just don't think he's

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really going to bring anything new this time around his

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fifth time out, So we'll see what happens there.

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Speaker 2: Next up is Coach.

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Speaker 1: Coach I feel like is a player that annoyed me

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so much back in the day. I think he kind

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of annoyed everyone, but also he's just such an ignomatic character,

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like no one is like him, and I think he's

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had for me. This is one that you know, I'm

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down for it because I think he's just he's a

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goofy character and he'll probably make good TV. But in

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terms of his story, I feel like he did have

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a pretty complete loop where he started in Token Chein's

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came back for Heroes Vers Villains and then South Pacific

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once again that season with Ozzie there, which cool to

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have both of them back, you know, the season that

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was built around those two characters. Having both of them

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back here so kind of you know, interactions they have

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that could be interesting.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he made it to the end and then like.

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Speaker 1: Lost in Final Tribal, finally played the game he always

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wanted to, but realized that, like, that's not what people

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want that, you know, that's not what people we're looking for.

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So he's you know, worked for three seasons to get

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to this point, finally did it, and the people said, hey,

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this is not the kind of game that's like worthy

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of a win, which I think is a great closed loop.

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Like I feel like that's like the perfect loop for Coach.

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Not every loop, not every storyline has to end in

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a win for it to be satisfying. So once again,

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not super duper thrilled to have him back, but I

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think he will probably make for good TV unless he's

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just like older and not as goofy as he once was.

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But I feel like even on social media, he's been

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going off doing some silly stuff, so he's probably still

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got that silliness in him. You know, once a silly man,

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always a silly man. Next up is Aubrey. This is

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this is a tricky one. So Aubrey started sometime in

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the early thirties and then came back like two two

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times really in really quick succession, I think within like

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four or five six seasons something like that, and each

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time was kind of did worse.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: In her first season she made the final tribal, lost

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to Michelle, came back in Game Changers, and then came

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back Edge of Extinction, which was, you know, not a

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great season and always tricky when you're in a captain's

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type season where you're like only one of two or

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three returning players, obviously you have a huge target on

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your back. And she was voted out pretty early and

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then you know, it was in the game for a

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while because of the Edge of Extinction mechanic there, but

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just didn't really bring anything. I can't remember a single

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thing from that season. I can't even really remember what

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she did in her second season note the first one.

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I do remember that arc of like her breaking down

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in the first episode or two, just like couldn't handle

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the stress and the pressure of it all.

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Speaker 2: Then like fights back makes it to.

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Speaker 1: The very end and like probably pretty close to a win,

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but doesn't quite get it, And so it kind of

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just feels a bit like diminishing returns every time we've

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seen her, and I guess I'm not I don't.

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Speaker 2: Miss her yet.

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Speaker 1: I did like her as a character, but I think

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I maybe needed another few seasons before or I was

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ready for like the big Aubrey comeback. This feels a

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bit too soon when it feels like we've been had

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you know, it's been so long since the returning player season.

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I would have liked other people to get a chance

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before her fourth time. It's crazy to say that she'll

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be out there for fourth time. I do think she'll

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be like a lower threat level player, would be my guess,

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and so I could see her doing quite well. So yeah,

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we'll have to kind of wait and see see what

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happens there. Next up is it Chrissy. Chrissy from one

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of my least favorite seasons, Heroes, Healers, Hustlers. There was

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a period there in the early thirties of the show

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where I was I was really not digging it, and

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I got really close to quitting watching the show, giving

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up definitely with thirty nine with you know, all the

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crazy shit that happened in that season. But then you know,

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they announced Winners at War and it's like, Okay, well,

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of course I'm gonna watch the Winners at War season.

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And I like that season, even if it was very gimmicky,

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So that kind of reignited my hype a little bit,

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and that's when I think I got a little bit

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more invested in the show. Like I don't really rewatch seasons.

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I've rewatched like two or three seasons in my life,

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but you know what around words that War is when

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I was like, oh, I want to listen to more

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of this exit press and hear people like do deep

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dives on the game, listen to more like podcasts and stuff.

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And that's when I got like, maybe more invested in

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Survivor on like another level and thinking more deeply about

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strategy and players legacies and even if I'm not rewatching seasons,

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I'm listening and kind of being in this community and

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just hearing, you know, people chatter about these different people

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so I can remember them better even if it's been

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a while since. There's certain seasons, but her season was

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not one of my favorites. I'm not a not a

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bed Ben fan. That's the one time in the history

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of the show where I have said, like, this show

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is rigged, Like it just felt like it was way

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too way too many little twists and turns that just

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fell on his lap to give him that w But anyway,

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Ben is not here, so I don't need to complain

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about him, But Chris Chrissy because of you know, all

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that situation with Ben, feels like she got robbed a

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little bit, made it to the final tribal, but you know,

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because of the fire making twist that was added in there,

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feels like she maybe had in the bag, although you

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know it was her.

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Speaker 2: Devin.

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Speaker 1: Devin was the other guy there who I really want

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to see him back to. I would have liked to

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see him on this cast as well. Hopefully he gets

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another chance at some point. But those two feel like

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I would of all Survivor history, maybe two of the

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most robbed people for a potential w once again. I

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don't know which one of those two would have won

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had they made it, but it'd be an interesting alternate

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reality if the fire making twist wasn't added in there

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and Ben didn't win, Like who would have won. Between that,

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maybe they would have been on Winters at War and

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we had a whole different, you know, whole different timeline

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going on. But I think Chrisy definitely deserved another shot.

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For me, there was like I'll say, I'll say two

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people and then one season from the thirties that have

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been so robbed to not have the opportunity to come back.

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Because in the thirties, you know, we had Edge of Extinction,

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but that only had three returning players, so not an

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opportunity for a ton of people. And then forty was

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Winners at War, so only Winners could be back, and

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so there's a lot of people from the mid to

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late thirties seasons that have just never had the opportunity

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to come back. For me, it was Chrissy was like

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shoe In whenever you know, they did another returning season.

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She had to be on there Dom as well from

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Ghost Island others that I hate, but he, you know,

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the first ever tiebreaker at the final tribal definitely deserve

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to come back, but he's not on the caster he unfortunately.

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And then David vers Goliath as a season, like just

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so many great characters in there. All those people deserve

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to come back, and we'll talk about them in a minute.

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So they kind of got it right in terms of

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the thirties for me, you know, I didn't need to

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see Aubrey necessarily, but in terms of getting Chrissy and

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some David verse Galathe people like, those seasons really deserved

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some good returneys, and I think Christy is a good

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example of that. So I think she'll be lower threat level.

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I'm excited to see what she can do. She wasn't

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necessarily one of my favorite characters, to be honest, I mean,

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just that whole season I was not really big fan

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of I was rooting for Devin at the end there,

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but I'm curious to see what she got. I think

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she'll be what she's got. I think she'll fight pretty

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hard for this, so that could be quite fun. And

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then yeah, we jump into the David verse Gale. I

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think this is actually the first time we've had multiple

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attorneys from the same first season, meaning that like obviously

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a lot of people played on All Stars, a lot

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of people played on Heroes or his Villains together, but

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in terms of like their original season, we have three

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people from David vers Gliath, which makes sense once again

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because that is such a great season. We have Christian, Angelina,

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and Mike White, so I start there. I was shocked

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to see Mike White on the cast list here.

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Speaker 2: I just thought, this.

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Speaker 1: Guy's so big right now, he's doing White Lotus stuff,

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you know what is he? I just never thought i'd

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see him on Survivor again. He's too busy doing too

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many other things.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: He made it to the end on David vers Goliath,

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so like thought maybe he was pretty happy with his

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journey there. But I'm stoked to have him back. I'm

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really curious to see what he does the second time around.

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I feel like I've seen a lot of people talking

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about like, I don't know, are people not going to

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target him because they want to like get on White

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Lois or whatever, which could be the case because you know,

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Angelina Christian, the other two people who were cast here

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did appear on White Lotus. Angelina had like a spoken line,

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Christian unfortunately didn't have any dialogue. But they're both cameot

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on the show, along with a bunch of other people

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from his season. So I'm That's another thing I'm excited

476
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for now is like a lot of these people from

477
00:19:55,079 --> 00:19:58,279
Survivor fifty. I could see making appearances on White Lotus

478
00:19:58,319 --> 00:20:00,759
in the future seasons. But yeah, I'm just shocked to

479
00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:02,640
see Mike White come back. I never really thought it

480
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,200
would happen.

481
00:20:04,039 --> 00:20:04,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't know.

482
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: He played a great game the first time around. You know,

483
00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:10,359
there's a lot of scuttle, but that like he kind

484
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,319
of threw at Final Tribal because it was gonna make

485
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,440
like a better story and he didn't really need the money,

486
00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:17,200
which I think makes sense into something he could do.

487
00:20:17,599 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. I think he's just he's.

488
00:20:19,799 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 1: Obviously a great writer, comes up with great confessionals, and

489
00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:26,319
I think he'll be a ton of fun to have back.

490
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,640
And in that same train of thought, Angelina super messy player,

491
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,240
but so much fun, so many iconic moments, hilarious player.

492
00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:37,640
I'm really curious to see if she is like a

493
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,960
Pokemon here and evolves or if she just kind of

494
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,319
stays the same thing. If she is, we'll get some

495
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,240
great quotes. I'm sure we'll get another Rice in negotiation, Like,

496
00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:46,880
we'll just get a bunch of funny stuff from her,

497
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,400
unless she goes out early, which I don't know. I

498
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,480
don't remember her being too great at challenges, so she

499
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,960
could be an early target unfortunately, but if she makes

500
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,359
it through, we're definitely gonna get some great moments with her.

501
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,200
She'd absolutely deserve to come back. I'm gonna say the

502
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,400
wayne chances are unless she does have that Pokemon evolution.

503
00:21:02,759 --> 00:21:04,799
Speaker 2: But I just I just don't know if I.

504
00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:08,799
Speaker 1: First see that happening, but we shall see. And then

505
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,319
Christian coming back so obviously super robbed person that he

506
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,160
never got an opportunity to come back prior to this.

507
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,240
It's crazy that it's taken thirteen seasons, but there just

508
00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:20,039
hasn't been an opportunity really, so I'm super excited to see.

509
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: Him come back.

510
00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:25,279
Speaker 1: He's smart guy, super funny, very social. He's gonna have

511
00:21:25,319 --> 00:21:27,240
a huge threat on him, but I think the fact

512
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,599
that this is such a big cast and there's so

513
00:21:28,599 --> 00:21:30,599
many other threats, hopefully he can squeak by because I

514
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,119
hope he makes it deep end of the show. And

515
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,079
then I think the interesting dynamic here between the three

516
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,440
of these is that Angeline and Mike White both made

517
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,839
it to the final tribal and you know, obviously Nick

518
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,119
who ended up winning it isn't isn't in this cast.

519
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,119
He was on Winners at War. Christian, who was on

520
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,640
the jury, ended up voting for Mike. Actually, so Mike,

521
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,920
even though he didn't win the season, Christian did vote

522
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,720
for him to win and did not vote for Angelina.

523
00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:54,759
So I wonder if there could be some good drama there.

524
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,400
But maybe Mike will be partial to Christian want to

525
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,039
keep him around because hey, this guy voted for me

526
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,880
last time. I should keep around. He might vote for

527
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,279
me again, and then who knows who will be the

528
00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:06,559
first to strike there. But yeah, I think this is

529
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,799
I'm so glad that the season got three reps. I

530
00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:12,960
could have taken more Davy Gabby, Like, there's so many

531
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,200
Cara even you know, anyone who's on the White loads,

532
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,599
Like it would be fun to like have them back

533
00:22:17,599 --> 00:22:19,839
in the mix. So I hope in the future we

534
00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:22,039
get more opportunities for more from this more people from

535
00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:23,559
this cast to come back, because I actually is a

536
00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:26,920
season I have rewatched and it's pretty modern compared to

537
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,119
some of the other seasons, and it's just it's super good,

538
00:22:29,319 --> 00:22:31,839
so funny, great season overall.

539
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,559
Speaker 2: So there you go.

540
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,839
Speaker 1: Uh, let's see, and then we have our last one

541
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,119
from the pre New era people we got Rick Devons

542
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,640
from Edge of Extinction, so he was kind of the

543
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,960
biggest character of that season.

544
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,279
Speaker 2: Tons of screen.

545
00:22:44,079 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: Time, you know, all those antics of running around finding IOLs,

546
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,880
getting voted out, coming back into the game. There was

547
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,160
no chance in hell this guy wasn't coming back in

548
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,880
I actually I should mention when I said the people

549
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,279
who were robbed from the thirties and not have a

550
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,000
chance to come back.

551
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,599
Speaker 2: Devon's is up there. I think he's fun, I think

552
00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:00,920
he's cool. Well I don't. I don't.

553
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: He's another one that I'm really excited to see what

554
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,440
that evolution is. I don't know what he's going to

555
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,799
bring on a second time around. He probably could be

556
00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:10,400
pretty abrasive and pretty in your face, but there's so

557
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,400
many people that maybe he can sync in a little

558
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,480
bit more, but maybe he'll tone it down. I'm not

559
00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:17,880
exactly sure. But someone that I, you know, wasn't top

560
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,599
of my personal list, but it's someone I expected, and

561
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,240
so I've I've kind of been mentally preparing for it,

562
00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:25,400
and yeah, I think it'll I think he'll make for

563
00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:27,640
good TV, which is at the end of the day,

564
00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:29,680
what I'm looking for here, which is, you know, something

565
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,640
that will lead into the next person going to bring up.

566
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,440
But I think for me, like, I'm not a huge

567
00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:37,079
challenge person. Honestly, I'm just so jaded with the challenges

568
00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:39,920
watching the show for twenty odd years at this point

569
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,440
that you know, if I'm ever rewatching this season, I

570
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,640
skip past the challenges unless it's like a really iconic

571
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,039
one that I want to see. And when the challenges

572
00:23:47,079 --> 00:23:48,920
are on now that's when I'm on my phone or

573
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,079
I'm like playing a game on my switch or something

574
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,880
like that is when I kind of check out of

575
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,640
the show because you know, especially these days, they do

576
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,519
the same challenges over and over again. I don't need

577
00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:59,440
to see someone like balancing on a beam, crawling under

578
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,200
a thing, and then like doing the same puzzle that

579
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,480
I've seen three million times. It just is not really

580
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,359
exciting for me. You get the odd challenge that is

581
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,839
super exciting and really tense and when, especially when the

582
00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:09,799
stakes are super high, this person needs to win or

583
00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:11,839
they're gonna go home kind of thing. But for the

584
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,440
most part, I kind of turned my brain off for

585
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,799
that part. I am really into the strategy, but I

586
00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:17,640
think above all, I'm just like I just want someone

587
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,160
who can like give good confessional confessionals, someone who's funny,

588
00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:23,720
someone who's smart and witty. Those are the people that

589
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,839
are the most rememorable for me. And I like a

590
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,839
good strategist too, But I mean I'm not big on

591
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,200
like the challenge beast he type people. So in terms

592
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,920
of like my archetypes, I think I have definitely have

593
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,880
some biases there on, like the kinds of people i'd

594
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,240
want to see return. Speaking of which, jump ahead of

595
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,680
the New Era season forty two.

596
00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:39,319
Speaker 2: Jonathan.

597
00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: This guy, yeah, maybe the like most challenge beast of

598
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,240
Challenge beasts we've ever seen on the show. The fact

599
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,839
that he could just like pick up his tribe on

600
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,880
his back and crush some of these challenges. You know,

601
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,319
to me, he's a very one note player. He's very

602
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:57,400
one dimensional. He's going to do great challenges, But like

603
00:24:58,039 --> 00:24:59,799
I don't even remember anything about his personality.

604
00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: W pretty bland to me.

605
00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't really that funny. I also think, like, just

606
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,160
because of how much of a beast he is, like,

607
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,279
there's no way in the pre like let's say his

608
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,640
chance his team does lose an immunity challenge, there's no

609
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,559
chance he's going home just because he has such a beast.

610
00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:16,880
He's gonna win the challenges for them, So to me,

611
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,640
I just feel like, Okay, he's gonna be in here

612
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,519
and he's probably gonna at least make the merge, and like,

613
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,440
I don't know, I just don't need that personally, So

614
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,519
I don't know. We'll see, maybe he can dial it

615
00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:28,119
into a new gear, but to me, not my favorite.

616
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,079
You know, one of the things with this cast is

617
00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:32,279
a lot of people from the New era, but he's

618
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:35,160
the only one from season forty one to forty four,

619
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,160
So it's kind of crazy how many people got snubbed

620
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,680
in place of him. Not that that's how it works, it's

621
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,079
not a one to one, but I can definitely see

622
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,160
why production and Jeff and Crewe would want him. He

623
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,200
does make for good TV and the challenges. It's just,

624
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:50,039
once again, that's kind of my least.

625
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 2: Intriguing part of this.

626
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: I think one element we could could be interesting to

627
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,000
see is like Ozzie was an original Challenge Beast Colby

628
00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,799
original Challenge Beast from different airs of the show, and

629
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:02,480
so up against Jonathan, I mean, he's younger and like

630
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:05,119
probably more ripped than either of them, so he'd probably

631
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,279
still he will definitely be like the most challenge beast here.

632
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:09,920
But we have a lot of those people, and that's

633
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,200
another reason why I think this cast is a little

634
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,000
bit weak at some points. It's just like I feel

635
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,519
like we have a bit too much of that archetype

636
00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:18,400
when really one or two people is maybe enough to

637
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,880
fill the quota, but instead we have like four because

638
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,680
we have another person coming up here that's kind of

639
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,200
all about just challenges only sort of things. So we'll

640
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,759
see what happens with Jonathan. Not my preferred pick, but

641
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,000
you know he's here. And then we skip ahead by one,

642
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,960
two or three once what is it? Yeah, three seasons

643
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,519
up to season forty five. We have two people coming back.

644
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:41,599
We have Emily and d so d being our first

645
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,400
winner in the cast. This is something that seems like

646
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,160
the show in planning for seasons fifty, went through so

647
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,759
many different themes for it. Was it like a legend,

648
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,039
was it just new era only? But it seemed like

649
00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:55,279
for most of the like rumors or the scuttle but

650
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,119
that like winners were not going to be part of this.

651
00:26:57,599 --> 00:26:59,559
And then kind of in the final hour, d and

652
00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:01,759
one other and maybe another one because we have some

653
00:27:01,839 --> 00:27:05,240
unknown players here. Being added to the mix just changes

654
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:07,519
things up a little bit, So I don't know, we'll

655
00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:11,319
see what happens. I think, you know, speaking or skipping ahead,

656
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,759
like Kyle's the other winner, we'll talk about him from

657
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:16,799
forty eight. So D and Kyle to me, like from

658
00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:19,920
the New Era are like the two strongest winners. I

659
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,039
think they had the best games. I think forty eight

660
00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:24,599
is probably my least favorite season of this New Era.

661
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,640
But in terms of Kyle's game, I think he played excellent,

662
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,119
and I think the only contender he has for like

663
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,920
best winner of the New Era would be D.

664
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: And so you got the best ones.

665
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: But I kind of feel like I wanted if I

666
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:40,240
were to have some winners, i'd maybe request someone different,

667
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,160
like to just see what else they got in the tank.

668
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,480
Like I think Erica kind of got shafted by the

669
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,640
edit in a season that was filled with twists, and

670
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,359
so I'd be down to see her again, see what

671
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,039
else she has.

672
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,519
Speaker 2: Marianne super fun.

673
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if I need to see it from

674
00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:53,480
like the proving her side of things, but I think

675
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,359
she's just good to entertainment value. Jam Jam, He's super fun.

676
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,279
It would have been down to see him, and then

677
00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:01,839
I think more specifically, Rachel season forty seven is one

678
00:28:01,839 --> 00:28:04,119
of my favorite from the New Era, and I think

679
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,799
she ended up part of her story was that she

680
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,039
ended up being like a challenge beast idle playing type player,

681
00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:10,720
which was not what she wanted to play, not what

682
00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:13,319
she thought she would play, but just like circumstances, that's

683
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,240
like the game she had to play to win. And

684
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:17,000
so she's one I really want to see come back

685
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,920
at some point and see how that changes or is

686
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,559
she able to play the game that she wanted to play.

687
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:23,200
I mean, she still got the win either way, but

688
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,920
I guess what I'm getting at here is there's other

689
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,880
winners that I think could have been a bit more

690
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,400
interesting to see come back instead of these two. However,

691
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:33,519
d is a really fun character. I think she is,

692
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,480
you know, part of a really dominant alliance iner season

693
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:38,640
and didn't really have a lot of friction. There was

694
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,920
not a lot of people mounting an opposition against her,

695
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:45,440
and so I think hopefully, you know, Target's gonna be

696
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,960
pretty big on her back. I'm excited to see her

697
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,480
play maybe from the bottom, or play with a little

698
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,359
bit more opposition this time around, just because people will

699
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:54,680
be gunning for her and scared of her. But you know,

700
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,839
I never know how that works too, Like, wouldn't you

701
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,279
also maybe want to go to the end with someone

702
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:00,519
who's won before, because like maybe the jury would be

703
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:02,519
more inclined to vote for you who hasn't won. It's

704
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:04,200
like person already has a million dollars, give me the

705
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,039
million dollars. We've played a similar level game. So I

706
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:09,400
don't know, we'll never see how that really, we'll see

707
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,079
how that works out here. D though, I think is

708
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,240
you know, she's a really fun character. It's just kind

709
00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:16,079
of odd how few winners there are in here and

710
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:18,400
having no winners from the pre New era.

711
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:19,599
Speaker 2: I don't know.

712
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:20,839
Speaker 1: I feel like we could have waited a few more

713
00:29:20,839 --> 00:29:22,799
seasons to get D back. But you know, she was

714
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,039
on the podcast with Jeff like his his his official podcast,

715
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:27,839
so it makes sense. He's obviously a big fan of her,

716
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,680
and I'm down. The other one from forty five is Emily.

717
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,759
Emily's a weird one because I remember, like in her

718
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:35,359
exit press and everything, she kept saying how she had

719
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,519
no intention of coming back. One season was good for her, she,

720
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,359
you know, out of many, like the whole history of

721
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:42,359
the show. I feel like she had one of the

722
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,519
most complete full season arcs of like coming out being

723
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,279
really abrasive, really rubbing people the wrong way, kind of

724
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:50,200
being a loud mouth and kind of trashing people a

725
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,319
little bit, being way too honest, and then like realizing

726
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,759
those flaws in herself and that she was rubbing people

727
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:58,160
the wrong way, ended up becoming a lot more of

728
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,759
a social butterfly kind of back being a little more chill,

729
00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:03,839
and then becoming so loved and then going for a

730
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:05,920
big blindside and getting voted out because you know, the

731
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,880
target became so big. But yeah, to me, she had

732
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,359
like a really complete arc, So I'm kind of surprised

733
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,119
to surprise to see her here. I think she'll bring

734
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,960
it for sure. I think it could be fun to

735
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,880
see what she's got in the tank, and I think

736
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,039
she will have a lower threat threat level compared to

737
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:22,279
some of these other people. So yeah, I think if

738
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:24,319
she makes it to the merge, I think she could

739
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:27,079
be a big winner, threat type person. So I'm excited

740
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:28,599
to see her back. I think that will be fun.

741
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,720
And jumping up to the next season, forty six has

742
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:38,200
three representatives here. First, we have q Q is you know,

743
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,119
absolute slammed dounk. There was you know, if I was

744
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,559
to predict, you know, which I kind of was in

745
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:46,240
my head, not vocalizing on a podcast like who are

746
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,720
the most likely people to come back from specifically the

747
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,119
new era for season fifty, but also just in general,

748
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:54,039
and like Carolyn and Q, I feel like we're like

749
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:57,039
the top two for me. Carolyn kind of got shafted

750
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,680
here not on the cast, but Q definitely in there.

751
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:00,119
Speaker 2: You know.

752
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: The least surprising thing I think. I love what I

753
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,319
love about Q one. He's super funny, great quotes, uh,

754
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,480
very you know, great confessionals, brutally honest, really like he'll

755
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:11,799
always bring it, I guess, you know. Eventually he did

756
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:13,720
like kind of almost quit and then just kind of

757
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,200
sat around for a few days. But I think, to me,

758
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:19,680
like Q just thinks about the game completely differently. He's

759
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,079
gonna go he's gonna be unique, he's gonna be crazy,

760
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,759
he's gonna be chaotic. Then I also think, and this

761
00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:26,519
is not something I loved, but I think it's good

762
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:28,039
that I didn't love it. At the end of his

763
00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:31,119
season in Final Tribal, when he asked the question to

764
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,279
the to the people Hey, what are you gonna do

765
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:35,279
with the money. I'm gonna give my vote to the

766
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:37,279
person who needs the money the most. So he almost

767
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:39,640
at least, you know, if we take his at his word,

768
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,119
which he definitely is pretty chaotics, I don't know if

769
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:45,960
we can, but he pretty much based his voting, his

770
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,279
vote for the winner off of like strictly their outside

771
00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:51,079
life and how much they need the money, and nothing

772
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:52,759
to do with how well they actually played the game.

773
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,480
I don't love that, but I love that it's different.

774
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,240
You know, He'll he'll add a different flavor to the cast,

775
00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:01,119
he'll think about the game differently, he'll provide a different

776
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:03,480
type of commentary. And so I think he's just you know,

777
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:05,559
once again slam dunk. Of course he's gonna be on here.

778
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,920
I think he'll be a three time player that extra

779
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,039
turning season, he'll be back again. He's just one of

780
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:11,880
these people that we're gonna get over and over again.

781
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,839
So very excited for him, a little bit less excited

782
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,480
for the other two from forty what was it six?

783
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:23,119
We have Charlie and Tiffany. Charlie, you know, really really

784
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:25,079
close to a win. So in terms of like, you know,

785
00:32:25,079 --> 00:32:27,880
looking at like the Chrissy's or you know, other people

786
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,720
who got like super close to win but couldn't quite

787
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:33,400
grab it. He's He's definitely deserving in that sense. I

788
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,079
think he's funny. I think he's a funny guy. I

789
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:37,519
think the Taylor Swift stuff got a little bit old

790
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:39,079
and you know, by the end of the season. But

791
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:41,039
I think he's a really smart player. I think he's

792
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:43,640
maybe the youngest person on this cast, so he might

793
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,440
be under.

794
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: Rated for that reason. I think he.

795
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: Will maybe have a bit of an evolution. I think

796
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,160
he maybe needs to see that he needs to play

797
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,359
a little bit harder, because he kept kind of waiting

798
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,519
to make his move, and he eventually did get some moves,

799
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,480
but I think he was waiting in the wings so

800
00:32:57,599 --> 00:32:59,440
long and maybe he saw that, like, hey, my number

801
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,559
one ally ended up not voting for me at the

802
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:03,359
final tribal, Like, I need to play this game differently,

803
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,799
and he is smart enough and strategic enough and social

804
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,359
enough to be able to evolve his game and do

805
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,759
something different, so I will. I do think we will

806
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:15,240
get a different flavor of Charlie this coming season. And

807
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:17,279
then I think, you know, a potential point of drama here.

808
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,640
I think that's a big part of the casting with

809
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,400
these forty six people, I don't think we needed all three.

810
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,519
I think just Q would have been fine, and maybe

811
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:26,440
one other person. But anyway, now with Tiffany the third

812
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,519
player here, there is some good drama here of.

813
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: Tiffany on well.

814
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: Actually, both Tiffany and Q did not vote for Charlie

815
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,359
at the final tribal, so that's some immediate drama right there.

816
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:37,359
Tiffany was also on a tribe with Q at the

817
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:40,039
start of the season, and they bickered a lot, constantly

818
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:42,039
batting and Q, I think outed the fact that she

819
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:44,200
had an idol, you know, all sorts of drama here.

820
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,960
I do think that's part of the reason they cast her,

821
00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:49,279
to get some drama out of Q and play up

822
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:53,680
that friend rivalry more rivalry than friendship storyline. But I

823
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,359
also feel like Q would produce that same level of

824
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,240
chaos with like almost anyone like I think that's just

825
00:33:58,279 --> 00:33:59,359
the kind of person he is. So I don't know

826
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,880
if you needed Tiffany, and I actually would have preferred

827
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,160
Venus from their same season in place of Tiffany, just

828
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,199
because once again, very chaotic player, very not self aware

829
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,280
at all. But I thought she was super funny, had

830
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,920
some great confessionals. I think Tiffany's a cool player. I

831
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,039
think she's good. She played a solid game other than

832
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:18,079
the not playing her Idol thing at the very end

833
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:21,719
of her game. But yeah, not what I'm super excited for.

834
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,639
I think, if you know, we're looking at like a

835
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:26,000
history of the show or legend type stuff, I just

836
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,000
feel like this season's a little bit overrepresented. But it

837
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:31,320
is typical for these returning seasons on Survivor to have

838
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,519
a lot of people from the seasons that like just

839
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,599
recently came out, So you know, I was kind of surprised,

840
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:37,800
as you're on here, just seems like one of the

841
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,159
most low key people. But I think that's probably good

842
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:41,760
for her in terms of like threat level. I think

843
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,599
she might be one of the lowest threat level people

844
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,079
on the island. So yeah, I think she also maybe

845
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:48,480
placed the lowest out of anyone here. You know, obviously,

846
00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:51,719
someone like Stephanie got like nineteenth in one of her seasons,

847
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,119
but has got as high as second or as I

848
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:56,639
think Tiffany maybe has like just the lowest placement for

849
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,679
a player on like their first season, I guess, or

850
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,360
their their best season. You could say, so, yeah, we'll

851
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,239
see what she brings to the show. Maybe she has

852
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,639
some good good stuff on a second time out. And

853
00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:10,360
then we jumped to forty seven, when you know, once

854
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,079
again one of my favorite seasons of the New Era,

855
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:14,679
we get Genevieve here, so I think maybe the only

856
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,039
Canadian or actually one other Canadian Camilla coming up here.

857
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: I think, so we have two.

858
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: Canadians overall, Genevieve. This is a slam dunk, one hundred

859
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,000
percent great casting.

860
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,559
Speaker 2: I didn't know. She didn't feel like a slam dunk pick.

861
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: For me, just in terms of like what survivor likes

862
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,400
for their archetypes and stuff in terms of bringing people back.

863
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,559
So I'm so happy that she is out here. To me,

864
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:36,400
she had great confessionals. You know, she was very sleepy

865
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,639
in the first couple episodes, but then really brought it

866
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,239
was part of Operation Italy, a huge big move in

867
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,719
that season. Very funny, had like an interesting storyline of

868
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,960
like feeling bad about voting people out and like how

869
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,280
that how they reacted to that, and just like hurting people,

870
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:53,760
and so she kind of became a little bit emotionless,

871
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,000
maybe too emotionless at times. I think she will also

872
00:35:57,039 --> 00:35:59,360
be a little bit under the radar type player, but

873
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,119
I think she could really bring it. I would love

874
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:02,679
to see a Genevieve win. I think that would be

875
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,960
so cool. So I'm very happy she's back. She's maybe

876
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,800
one of my favorite picks for the season, honestly, like

877
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,280
I was really really hot on her, and yeah, I

878
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,000
think she'll I think she'll bring it. I think she'll

879
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,920
be a little bit different than some of these other players.

880
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:16,159
Hopefully she doesn't go out early. I think there could

881
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,880
be a possibility. But yeah, there you go, Genevieve. Excited

882
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,159
to see her. And then forty eight we have three players,

883
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,719
So yeah, I'm not thrilled about this because I didn't

884
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,159
love this season and also just ended, so it feels

885
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:31,400
a bit too soon. But we have Joe, we have Kyle,

886
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,679
and we have Camilla. So of the three, I think

887
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,519
Camilla is the one I most want to see back.

888
00:36:36,559 --> 00:36:38,119
I think this is still a bit too soon. I

889
00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:40,760
could have waited a little bit, but I think this

890
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,480
is this is just weird to me. Like Kyle, so

891
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:45,400
he won the season, and then you're like also giving

892
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,800
him like his two strongest allies from the season that

893
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,400
never betrayed him, Camilla voted for him to win the

894
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,199
game at the end. It just feels like, I don't know,

895
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,960
these people are just gonna get targeted big time. I

896
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,400
think there's no way you can leave Kyle and Camilla

897
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,800
and Joe in the game, like there go after each

898
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,719
other early, Like maybe we see an evolution there they

899
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,719
turn against each other.

900
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I just I didn't need to

901
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,639
see Kyle this soon.

902
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,079
Speaker 1: I think he had He was a great winner, but

903
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:12,400
I think as a character, he was not the most

904
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,599
exciting and I would have loved to see him come

905
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:16,159
back at some point in the future. But this just

906
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:18,480
feels it just feels too soon to me. You know,

907
00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:21,360
we're still getting off, Like the announcement was obviously last

908
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,400
week for this, but like it was only enough that

909
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,559
he won like the days before that, right, So it

910
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:30,119
just feels a little too soon. And then Camilla, Yeah,

911
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:31,840
I don't know. I think just since she didn't win

912
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,679
and she was with Kyle, like she has a bit

913
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,719
more story growth there. But I just feel like there's

914
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,760
no way Kyle makes it to the end and like

915
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,599
wins again. Like I feel like he'll just get targeted early.

916
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:42,719
So it's like, what is even the point? And I

917
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,840
feel like it takes his wind down a little bit,

918
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,599
Like it's almost like, dude, just relish in the big

919
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:48,559
win for a while, but hey, if fire him, I

920
00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:51,079
would not turn down the opportunity to play again. And

921
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,000
then Joe was the one I'm least excited for. It's

922
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,239
not shocking. It's very much like the type of character

923
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,519
and story that Jeff Probes and the Survivor team love.

924
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,440
But to me, he's He's a player that has like

925
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:04,119
one speed, and I just feel like we're gonna get

926
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:06,280
that same speed again. He's a challenge kind of guy.

927
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,320
He's like the classic loyal to his death kind of guy,

928
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,440
which is interesting, Like I feel like he lost in

929
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,320
the exact same way that Coach lost, like making it

930
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,320
to the end, being the loyalty, but like not actually loyal.

931
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,079
That's just like how they describe their game. But then

932
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:22,079
they're not actually loyal people, because you can't really be

933
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:24,000
loyal in the game of Survivor unless you're just like

934
00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:24,360
a goat.

935
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 2: I guess.

936
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,679
Speaker 1: So, I don't know, will he turn it up, turn

937
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,760
up the temperature.

938
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: For another season?

939
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,119
Speaker 1: I just I just don't see it happening, to be honest,

940
00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:33,760
So I'm not too excited about him, and I think

941
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,719
three people from this season is way too much, Like

942
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:38,480
just Camilla would have been fine, But yeah, this is

943
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:40,599
definitely over representation in this sense.

944
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 2: Here.

945
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,039
Speaker 1: I also think I was thinking about this, you know,

946
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:46,760
the early forties are kind of underrepresented. A person who

947
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,840
actually had a very similar game to Joe was Mike

948
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,119
Turner from season forty two. I ended up losing to Marianne,

949
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,199
but you know, very similar to Joe. He's a firefighter,

950
00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:57,119
he a bit of a loyalty guy. When it got

951
00:38:57,159 --> 00:38:58,960
to the final tribal they were but like, hey, I

952
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,840
played a loyal game and backstab anyone, you know, not

953
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,719
owning the moves they did, but instead just like really

954
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,000
doubling down on this loyalty that was not really existent.

955
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:07,039
Speaker 2: You know, They're a bit diluted.

956
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: But I feel like Mike was like way more social,

957
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,239
way more interesting, kind of a funnier guy, had a

958
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,519
very similar storyline, and he's someone that I could see

959
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,000
changing his game for a second season, whereas I just

960
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,280
don't see that for Joe. So actually, in this archetype,

961
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,360
I would have way preferred Mike Turner but I think

962
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,960
it's just he wasn't super I wasn't quite as memorable

963
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,280
as obviously a few seasons older now. And obviously Joe

964
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,320
in this EVA storyline from the most recent season was

965
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,320
very heartwarming and beautiful and all that. So it makes

966
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,559
sense that they want to go for that. It's a

967
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:37,119
bit more TV friendly, I guess, and it's more recent

968
00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:39,599
on people's minds. But I would have preferred like Mike

969
00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:41,920
Turner in this exact same spot, like that would have

970
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,280
been just a way better cast.

971
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,599
Speaker 2: Decision in my opinion.

972
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: So that's everyone, of the exception of two people from

973
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:52,880
season forty nine who obviously are have played the game,

974
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,199
but that season hasn't aired yet. Their names are out there.

975
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:58,079
It's leaked, but I won't spoil it here for people

976
00:39:58,079 --> 00:39:59,519
who don't want to know that kind of stuff, because

977
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:02,039
it's kind of changing how I'm gonna go into forty nine.

978
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:03,760
I'm gonna be like, have my eyes glued on these

979
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,280
people because I know they're coming back. I don't know

980
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,800
if that means one of them wins, or if it

981
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,679
means they just were entertaining or got close or I

982
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:12,440
don't know. I don't know really what to make of it.

983
00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:15,400
You know, I've seen some theories that like, how are

984
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,880
they going to divide this tribe at the beginning? Are

985
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,960
they gonna do with twenty four people? Are going to

986
00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:20,559
do three tribes of eight? Or are they going to

987
00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:23,280
do two tribes of twelve? And then wheel that down

988
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,760
if they did three tribes of eight? Like are they

989
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,599
going to do one winner on each on each tribe

990
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:30,679
and therefore, like maybe one of these people leaked would

991
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,480
be the winner that third winner to go on that.

992
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,559
I think some of that's a bit too hair brain

993
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:36,199
scheme and not like any of the players will know

994
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,719
that any of them won. But I guess you could,

995
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,760
like infer maybe if that's how the tribe divisions worked.

996
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:45,480
So yeah, I you know, no thoughts there other than

997
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:47,280
like I would have preferred people that I know and love,

998
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,119
But who knows, maybe in the fall I will know

999
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:51,480
and love these people and be super stoked to see

1000
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:52,719
them back on forty nine. But I think if you

1001
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,840
just look at it, like three people from forty six,

1002
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,599
three from forty eight, two from forty nine, one from

1003
00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:00,800
forty seven, that's a lot of represent from these most

1004
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,679
recent seasons, And like, you know, do we need three

1005
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,400
from forty six? Do we need three from forty eight?

1006
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1007
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:07,559
Speaker 1: I think we could have spread the love a little

1008
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:10,679
bit more. But you know that's just that's just me.

1009
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:14,599
Uh let me see what other thoughts did I have

1010
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,639
on like specific dynamics here. I shared that one, oh

1011
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:22,400
one random interesting thing that I don't know if they're

1012
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,440
like casted this based on this, but I remember in

1013
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:29,000
Q's in forty six, in Q's season, he had a

1014
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:32,360
quote to vote out Mariah or Mo I think her

1015
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,480
name was in that season because she reminded him too

1016
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:38,840
much of Aubrey. She had too much Aubrey energy to her,

1017
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,840
and that's why he wanted her vote, wanted to vote

1018
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,360
her out. And now obviously he'll be on a season

1019
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,519
with Aubrey. So I think it would be a total

1020
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:46,880
miss if they don't put Q and Aubrey on the

1021
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,280
same tribe at the start of the game, because that's

1022
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,639
like immediate drama right there and then. So I don't

1023
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:52,320
know if that was part of their casting of Aubrey

1024
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,039
of like, hey, they do that, Q, Let's get Aubrey

1025
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:56,880
in there and make get some like just free drama

1026
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,400
once again. I think Q will make drama with anyone.

1027
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,199
But I don't think think, yeah, I think that's that's

1028
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:04,239
an interesting thing. We'll see if that turns into anything.

1029
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,159
I also I had an interesting thought.

1030
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 2: Here with Mike White.

1031
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I'm really curious to see

1032
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,559
just how the players interact with him, Like I don't

1033
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:17,039
see him being in early boot, not just because like

1034
00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:19,239
people don't want to get on his bad side, because

1035
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,079
like they maybe want a cameo and white lotus. I

1036
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:23,599
don't think people are gonna be like overthinking that, but

1037
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:27,400
I do feel like people will be pretty highly aware

1038
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:30,199
that Mike Whit's probably gonna get a lot of screen time.

1039
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:31,199
Speaker 2: He's a big star right now.

1040
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: Obviously he's not an actor, and he has acted, but

1041
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,000
he's more just known for white lotus being kind of

1042
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,920
behind the camera. But he's a big name in Hollywood

1043
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,840
right now, and I think obviously survivors, no matter how

1044
00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:44,119
poorly or well he does, like he's gonna get a

1045
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:46,320
lot of screen time. And so I wonder if people

1046
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,800
are gonna like try and team up with him to

1047
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,760
like get more screen time. I know that's like a

1048
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,800
really weird argument, but I remember back in forty six

1049
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,880
once again very chaotic season. Liz in that season talked

1050
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,159
about how she wanted to vote Tevian out. She just

1051
00:42:58,199 --> 00:42:59,800
felt like he was a guy who is gonna get

1052
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,239
a lot screen time and she wanted that screen time,

1053
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:04,519
which is crazy, but I love that. That's like, of course,

1054
00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:06,679
a way that people could think about this game. But

1055
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,840
I feel like people might want to really align themselves

1056
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,679
with Mike White and work with him, like just to

1057
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,039
get like more screen time out of this bad boy,

1058
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,639
Like especially if it's a twenty four player season, which

1059
00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:19,880
means like your percent chance if you just roll to

1060
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,880
die to win as much lower than any other season

1061
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,559
because there's just more players. Like, just have some fun

1062
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:26,320
with it, try and get some good TV moments out

1063
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,440
of it. You know, you're playing maybe for like another

1064
00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:31,239
return in the future kind of thing. I wonder if

1065
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,760
we'll see that kind of thing. I mean, I don't

1066
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,880
think well anyone will ever actually confirm it in like

1067
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,320
interviews or anything. But I feel like if I was

1068
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,239
out there, I would definitely want to align with Mike White,

1069
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,159
also because I'm a fan of White, Lotus and school

1070
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,800
Rock and all this stuff. But yeah, I think that's

1071
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,480
a I'm really curious to see just how people interact

1072
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,320
with Mike White. That's a very unpresentent situation. You know,

1073
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,679
he's already famous by the time his first season came out,

1074
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,960
but now he's even more of a big deal with

1075
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,760
one of the biggest shows on TV right now. So

1076
00:43:56,199 --> 00:43:57,599
really curious to see what happens there.

1077
00:43:59,079 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1078
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,119
Speaker 1: I mentioned like in terms of one of the interesting

1079
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:04,519
webs is like Ozzie and Coach, who were both part

1080
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:07,199
of South Pacific in that journey, So to see them

1081
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,400
back I think could be an interesting dynamic and how

1082
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,679
they interact with each other. You know, obviously people like

1083
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,360
Suri and Ozzie have been multiple seasons together and Surize

1084
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,559
voted him out like at least once, if not twice,

1085
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,840
So that's definitely some like just good free drama right there.

1086
00:44:21,519 --> 00:44:23,559
I mentioned the David first GLI stuff. A lot of

1087
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:25,719
interesting dynamics there of how those people played together on

1088
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,719
their first season. I think guess Aubrey hasn't played with

1089
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,440
any of these people, which is weird that she's a

1090
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,400
three time now about to be a four time player.

1091
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,559
Actually that's not true because three end Ozzie were both

1092
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:38,760
on Game Changers, which she was on too, right, So

1093
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,440
I don't I don't remember any interactions between those people,

1094
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:43,960
but that's something I should go back and check out,

1095
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,679
because definitely some interactions to be had there. Stephanie was,

1096
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,480
you know, on season with seriz Or. Obviously there's some

1097
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:52,239
dynamics there. And Colby of course have all kind of

1098
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,840
worked together. Colby and gener were both on All Stars together.

1099
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,000
I don't remember if they really interacted much at all,

1100
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,199
so we'll see what happens there. I'm really curious to

1101
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:03,519
see what the tribe divisions are if we get two

1102
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:05,519
tribes of twelve or if we get three of eight.

1103
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,840
My guess is just because of you know, twenty six days,

1104
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,360
twenty four players, my guess is in the pre merge,

1105
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,559
what we're gonna get is, you know, one tribe wins immunity,

1106
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:16,840
the other two tribes go to tribal council, so you

1107
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,719
get two voters in one episode. Hopefully we get more

1108
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,280
episodes for this season, you know, if we don't get

1109
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,119
more days, like, give us a couple more episodes to

1110
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,440
just ingest all these people. Obviously, Survivor is ninety minutes

1111
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,519
long now, which is great for a season like this.

1112
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,000
We have more time to spend with these people, but

1113
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,639
hopefully we get a couple extra episodes to really just

1114
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:36,679
have all these players get some good screen time and

1115
00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:38,440
get their like even if they go out early, like,

1116
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,039
at least they can hopefully have some good screen time

1117
00:45:41,079 --> 00:45:43,880
to tell an interesting story or have some good TV moments.

1118
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: So my guess would be three tribes of eight. I

1119
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:47,280
don't know.

1120
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: I think it's divided pretty evenly, Like, I don't think

1121
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,119
they really have the numbers to do like old era

1122
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,480
versus mid era of versus New School, just because there's

1123
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:56,800
too many people from the forties. It doesn't really make

1124
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,880
any sense to like have an even distribution there. It's

1125
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,320
just so top heavy with New Air. So yeah, I

1126
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,960
don't I don't know. I think we're gonna get mixed

1127
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,039
of people on all these different tribes. It'll be really

1128
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:08,079
interesting to see that the people they put on specific

1129
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:10,280
tribes together, like if they put Tiff and Q on

1130
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,320
the same tribe intentionally, or if they leave them apart

1131
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,239
at first to like build up maybe an eventual connection

1132
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,719
between them again later on. So yeah, we'll see what

1133
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,599
happens there. And then, you know, another thing that I'm

1134
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:24,719
really curious about with this season, and what I said,

1135
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,159
it's probably gonna be messy because of the short amount

1136
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:29,400
of days, a ton of the huge amount of players.

1137
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:30,559
Speaker 2: You know.

1138
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:32,679
Speaker 1: Another part with this season is that they were they

1139
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,039
doing for like throughout season forty eight, is they had

1140
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:39,519
fan votes for various mechanics like such as, you know,

1141
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,239
is fire making going to be in there? You know,

1142
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,679
little things like is there gonna be a live reunion?

1143
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,960
You know, get little random things like vote on the

1144
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,840
tribe colors. But you also have things like immunity, idols,

1145
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:54,559
like I mentioned fire making, quantity of advantages, so there's

1146
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:57,920
different game mechanics things, And if I had to guess,

1147
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,880
I would say that I don't think the players are gonna.

1148
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:02,639
Speaker 2: Know what the results of those votes will have been.

1149
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,199
Speaker 1: So I think people will come into the season not

1150
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,440
knowing if ammunion diels there will be in there, not

1151
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:09,159
knowing if there'll be a fire final for fire making,

1152
00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:13,360
so they'll have to play around both possibilities with their strategies, which.

1153
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:14,039
Speaker 2: I don't think is great.

1154
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:16,679
Speaker 1: I hope that they give them that information and get say, hey,

1155
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:19,760
there's idols in the season. There is not a fire

1156
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,280
making at Final four. There is you know, I guess

1157
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,159
some of the advantage ones are worded kind of weirdly.

1158
00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:27,039
It's like, do you want advantages or not? Well, like,

1159
00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:30,039
I feel like, obviously there'll be some advantages to some extent,

1160
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:32,559
So hopefully the players have that information, but I just

1161
00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:34,360
don't think they will, And so I think that's going

1162
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,000
to lead to hopefully not a season of people playing

1163
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,920
scared because they don't know what they're up against, but

1164
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,079
hopefully just people going balls to the wall because like,

1165
00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:43,920
for the same argument, they don't know what they're up against,

1166
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:44,519
you might as well.

1167
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 2: Just play super hard.

1168
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:48,079
Speaker 1: And with this many players, like, oh god, it's just

1169
00:47:48,159 --> 00:47:50,840
it's gonna be such a mess. I hope, you know,

1170
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:52,840
a lot of my favorites don't get voted out early.

1171
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,199
I think some of my favorites here, as I mentioned,

1172
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:59,519
could be more under the radar type people. So hopefully,

1173
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:02,960
like you know, David verst Glat type people like a Genevieve.

1174
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,679
You know, I hope these people kind of make it

1175
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:07,199
far because I want to see some of them play.

1176
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,199
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think there's a lot of possibilities here.

1177
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,559
Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's a million people who got

1178
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:15,360
snubbed for this who I would have preferred to see,

1179
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,039
and I'm not gonna comment in all like the leaked

1180
00:48:18,159 --> 00:48:21,039
people who were cut or cast or were potentially in

1181
00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:23,679
the mix and didn't make it, because like, I don't

1182
00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:25,320
really see a point in complaining about a season that

1183
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,159
doesn't exist, Like I would rather talk about the season

1184
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:28,239
that doesn't exist.

1185
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: The people that we know are here.

1186
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: But I do think there are a few weird ones,

1187
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,599
like having no one from forty one to forty two,

1188
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,559
or that's not true, sorry, forty one, forty three, forty

1189
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:39,679
four is weird to me, Like Carolyn seemed like a

1190
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:42,800
slam dunk, a Shannon Ricard coming back, a Jesse from

1191
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,320
forty three just feels like I would have liked to

1192
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,280
see a little bit less forty six and forty eight

1193
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,519
and a little bit more variety across these seasons, just

1194
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:52,679
to give a you know, at least someone from each

1195
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,599
each season of the New Era a chance to be

1196
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:56,079
in the mix here.

1197
00:48:56,119 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: I think that'd be a bit.

1198
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: More fun for the whole you know, Marvel crossover of

1199
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,360
it all, like the multiverse situation of it. I'll just

1200
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,599
get a little bit more variety in there. So yeah,

1201
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:06,719
there's definitely a ton of snubs, and if people want

1202
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,360
to talk about those snubs, you know, join the discord.

1203
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: We can chat about it there.

1204
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,599
Speaker 1: I don't feel like spending another hour talking about all

1205
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:12,480
the names that I would.

1206
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,159
Speaker 2: Have preferred to see.

1207
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, hopefully, you know, at the end of the day,

1208
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:17,519
hopefully there's just not this long of a wait before

1209
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:21,159
the next returning player season. I think so many people

1210
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:23,920
who still should get a chance at another try in

1211
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,320
the New era, people from the thirties who were missed,

1212
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,440
like I mentioned a Dom for example, and you know,

1213
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:31,920
some older some older winners, some older players who are

1214
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,039
just raring to come back, people who are salting the

1215
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:36,280
last couple of weeks because they mentioned that they got cut. Like,

1216
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,400
There's just so many great players that I'd love to

1217
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,199
see play the game. I'm guessing these returning player seasons

1218
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,440
are more expensive because there's like appearance fees for a

1219
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,880
lot of these people rather than just the usual prize

1220
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:46,599
money I believe.

1221
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: But hopefully, like by you.

1222
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,199
Speaker 1: Know, forty fifty three fifty four, we can get another

1223
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,079
returning player season, no matter what the theme is, Like,

1224
00:49:54,159 --> 00:49:55,920
just get a little bit more people in there, and

1225
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,599
you know, maybe some of these people who are coming

1226
00:49:57,599 --> 00:49:59,079
back for a second time here could get like a

1227
00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:00,079
third chance as well.

1228
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: Like I just I hope we see a little bit

1229
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:02,119
more of that.

1230
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to wait another ten seasons before we

1231
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,159
get returning to players, because there's just so many great

1232
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:09,519
people I want to see play again. But yeah, I

1233
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:11,559
think that's pretty much all my thoughts here. I'm excited

1234
00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:15,639
for the season. Maybe I'll do one more, just last

1235
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,840
last pass through. I think the people I'm most excited

1236
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:27,119
for would be all the David Vers Glyath people, you know, Genevieve,

1237
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:29,599
I'm really excited for the forty six or like specifically

1238
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:32,960
Q I'm excited for. I think Genevieve has a that

1239
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,920
would be maybe my early winter pick, but I don't

1240
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,760
know if that'll sick. I think that's just kind of

1241
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:38,559
a heart pick as well. I think it would be

1242
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:40,800
cool for like a Jenna whois to come back after

1243
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:41,960
all these seasons and get a win.

1244
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:43,119
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know.

1245
00:50:43,159 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: I think there's there's a lot of interesting things to

1246
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,599
be had here. I'm thinking closer to the season, especially

1247
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:49,360
after we've seen forty nine and we see the two

1248
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,639
players from that season that are in the mix to

1249
00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:54,280
do a draft would be really fun, so definitely plan

1250
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,079
to do that, maybe around the time Season fifty is

1251
00:50:57,079 --> 00:50:59,559
about to launch. But yeah, thank you everyone for listening

1252
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:01,440
to something to different once again. And if you if

1253
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,599
you like this, if you want to see more coverage

1254
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:05,880
of Survivor or weird thoughts like this, yeah, let me

1255
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,840
let me know because I'd be open to doing a

1256
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,360
little bit more of this. So thank you for listening

1257
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,360
and I will see you again next time.

1258
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Speaker 2: Bye bye.