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<v Speaker 1>Well, ladies, gentlemen, to another episode every Day black Man podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>a podcasts for any black man thoughts. Today we have

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<v Speaker 1>a special guest, Kwame, who will share how he became

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<v Speaker 1>the world record holder for most steps in a month

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<v Speaker 1>April twenty twenty five, unless he's gonna tell us that

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<v Speaker 1>paw me tell us the people a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>about everything that you have going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's going on? Y'all? It's good to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Kwame.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from New Orleans, Louisiana, but I grew up in Houston, Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>We came back to New Orleans for undergrad and graduate school,

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<v Speaker 2>where I got introduced to pre med and public health

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<v Speaker 2>and ultimately got into what I'm doing right now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of funny to think back now ten years ago

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<v Speaker 2>when I started this journey that I wouldn't say that

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<v Speaker 2>I planned to try and take two million steps in

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<v Speaker 2>thirty days as a part of my agenda. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not necessarily in control of how things ultimately play out,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's kind of how I got here. I

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<v Speaker 2>started off grew up in a family of runners. Four

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<v Speaker 2>out of the seven kids in my family, we all

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<v Speaker 2>competed in college in cross country and track and field,

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<v Speaker 2>So endurance sports have always been a part of kind

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<v Speaker 2>of what we do, and in health consciousness has also

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<v Speaker 2>been part of that as well, because my dad there's

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<v Speaker 2>always made sure that we were eating the right foods

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<v Speaker 2>so that we could be properly fueled to perform as

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<v Speaker 2>good as we possibly can.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of like the baseline of it all.

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<v Speaker 3>There's obviously more to the story, but we'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Heylin Qualmi, thank you very much and welcome Stylish Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you said you know you didn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>start out when you look back ten years ago, but

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of made you aside or inspired you to

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<v Speaker 1>make this journey to break the world record for steps

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<v Speaker 1>in a month.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was actually inspired by some of my community

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<v Speaker 2>members or the users on our app. So I run

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<v Speaker 2>a health platform. It gives you a health score kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a credit score for your health, and we

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<v Speaker 2>always do challenges on the app where you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you take a certain amount of steps in a month,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be entered in for a chance to win something

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<v Speaker 2>back in twenty twenty four, in February twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>we did the Marti Garraos Steps Challenge where or it

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<v Speaker 2>took the most steps in five days during Marty Garos

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<v Speaker 2>one five thousand dollars. So Walkin just became a big

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<v Speaker 2>part of the culture within our community and now we

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<v Speaker 2>have about twenty five hundred users on our app. Last

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<v Speaker 2>year a doctor did one million steps in thirty days

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<v Speaker 2>and he got taken off his blood pressure medication. He

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<v Speaker 2>lost twenty pounds just in thirty days. Fifty four year old,

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<v Speaker 2>regular every day guy. And so this kind of started

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<v Speaker 2>this trend of people doing one million steps in thirty days.

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<v Speaker 2>And so May twenty twenty four he did it. He

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<v Speaker 2>passed the baton to me. In June, another user did

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<v Speaker 2>it in twenty eight days in July and two more

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<v Speaker 2>in August, and another one in October in Puerto Rico,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it just kind of we all just got

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<v Speaker 2>to talking about what we thought. You know, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think the world record is and do you think

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<v Speaker 2>that any of us can break it?

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<v Speaker 3>And when I'm as I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting ready to prepare for the official launch of our

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<v Speaker 2>app this fall because we've been operating on a beta

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<v Speaker 2>app the past eighteen months, I just wanted to do

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<v Speaker 2>something to garner some attention, and I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure.

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<v Speaker 3>It was aligned with the work that we do.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, it rose the month, So I wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 2>if I could actually do it. You know, obviously someone's

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<v Speaker 2>done until it's possible, but I actually, I guess technically

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<v Speaker 2>no one had done it at that point, but someone

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<v Speaker 2>had had gotten close to two million, So I figured

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<v Speaker 2>figured I have a decent chance considering my background and

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<v Speaker 2>sticking one day at a time. It was hard in

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<v Speaker 2>the first five days. I mean, I was in pain

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<v Speaker 2>every moment of the day because you know, so again

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<v Speaker 2>I run, and so you know, you use different parts

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<v Speaker 2>of your legs when you run compared to when you

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<v Speaker 2>walk in especially if I'm walking thirty five thirty thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five miles a day, sixty seven thousand steps a day,

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, just new pains. I learned about new parts

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<v Speaker 2>of my body every day because because it was hurting.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a question, how long? Wait?

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, wait, what did you listen to? Like, were you

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<v Speaker 5>listening to music as you did this? Or it was

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<v Speaker 5>just I was I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was mostly working, so I started to run my company. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>so now I'm walking like fourteen hours a day, and

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't really have time to like take meetings

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<v Speaker 2>in the office.

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<v Speaker 3>So for the most part I was working.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, So like let's say in the morning, I'll wake

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<v Speaker 2>up at five six o'clock, I would go do like

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<v Speaker 2>a four hour walk along the levee in New Orleans

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<v Speaker 2>along the Mississippi River, and you know, basically kind of

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<v Speaker 2>do my checklist or do my to do list with

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<v Speaker 2>my administrative specialists, and then I would start just working

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<v Speaker 2>on tasks, editing content, and then I get back. My

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<v Speaker 2>phone would be dead typically by the time I got back,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I would shower, go to the office, make

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<v Speaker 2>sure everything was good, and then I would go to

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<v Speaker 2>the fitness center here at Zavier University, Louisiana and just

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<v Speaker 2>walk around there for hours, again working close to the

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<v Speaker 2>office so that in case something came up, I was

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<v Speaker 2>able to be there, and then in the evening just

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<v Speaker 2>walk around. It got to point where I really couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>do anything but walk when I was walking, because I

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<v Speaker 2>was just so tired and I was like trying to

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<v Speaker 2>pick up the pace and so so it was harder

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<v Speaker 2>to do work and walk like a seventeen minute you

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<v Speaker 2>average miles. So yeah, for the most part, that was

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<v Speaker 2>it working.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm looking at these numbers, sais sixty six thousand,

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<v Speaker 6>sixty six steps per day on average.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a lot of states.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a lot of sixties. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I did that once when we were in

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<v Speaker 5>Vegas and we walked up and down the rip.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when we walked up and down the strip, that

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<v Speaker 1>was the closest I've ever gotten to anything that you're describing. Kwame.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you put on like after burners towards the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the month and get up to like forty miles

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<v Speaker 1>a day, forty five stuff like that?

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<v Speaker 2>I did a few. I did, actually, so a few

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<v Speaker 2>days towards the end, I was doing like seventy nine

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<v Speaker 2>eighty eighty thousand steps a day. My highest was eighty

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<v Speaker 2>seven thousand, so I was about forty one forty two

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<v Speaker 4>I was just trying to get my mail earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got my mail earlier. That's a few steps right there.

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<v Speaker 7>I take the off there in the day.

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<v Speaker 6>It's twenty two thousand, just when I was working security.

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<v Speaker 2>M Yeah, it's tough. I mean, people will come and

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<v Speaker 2>walk with me. It definitely. It definitely helped out. But

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<v Speaker 2>we walked for four hours and then you know they'd

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<v Speaker 2>be laid out on the couch like you pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>done that. I'm like, actually, no, I gotta gotta do

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<v Speaker 2>that about two more times today. And you know you

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<v Speaker 2>get twenty thousand steps about in four hours, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which is obviously way more than the average person's doing

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<v Speaker 8>It was I was, you said, that's so casually, like

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<v Speaker 8>you do about twenty thousand steps, Like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 8>how many steps I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be honest with you, I don't think that many.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I did the math.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, fifteen days in I had done as many steps

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<v Speaker 2>in those two weeks as the average American does in

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<v Speaker 2>a year, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't even walk like that's that's crazy. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you are stand and read, want to do all them

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<v Speaker 1>in steps in a day, in a week, y'all go

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<v Speaker 1>on right ahead. You know what y'all need to sign

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<v Speaker 2>So our beta app is called dakkuld DO. It's d

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<v Speaker 2>And after this podcast, you'll be able to use access

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<v Speaker 3>All lowercase all one word. Get into the.

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<v Speaker 2>Platform and then you'll complete The first thing you'll do

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<v Speaker 2>is answer some questions about your height, weight, age, things

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<v Speaker 2>the initial health score assessment, which will be about twelve

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<v Speaker 2>questions get related to overall health and wellness. So we

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<v Speaker 2>track over one hundred different metrics across seven categories of health.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's physical health, so blood pressure, cholesterol, glucose, things

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<v Speaker 2>get a score in each category and then you get

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<v Speaker 2>an overall score between zero and one thousand, and it

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<v Speaker 2>changes in real time depending on how you change. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So if you go on a run or a walk

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<v Speaker 2>one day, score goes up a few points, get three

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<v Speaker 2>hours of sleep, score goes down. And then based on

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<v Speaker 2>those changes, we make recommendations for how you can improve,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as connect people with health care providers, resources

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<v Speaker 2>and experiences and challenges.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you know part of those experiences?

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<v Speaker 2>For sure?

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<v Speaker 3>I think y'all all could do a million steps in

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<v Speaker 3>a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, Okay, we'll take that challenge. We will take that

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<v Speaker 1>right here.

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<v Speaker 4>What you mean, wet? Yeah, I'm interested in the app.

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<v Speaker 4>You got Hey, let's don't take the biggest challenge? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we got it.

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<v Speaker 7>No, he got it.

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<v Speaker 2>There were there were six people who did it last

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<v Speaker 2>last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a sixty four year old woman about to do

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<v Speaker 2>it right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now this month on that app.

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<v Speaker 4>Got medicated.

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<v Speaker 3>She's retired.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's that one is about five hours of walk

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<v Speaker 2>in a day, thirty three thousand steps a day. But

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<v Speaker 2>the thing about that challenge is, you know, and again,

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<v Speaker 2>this wasn't something that I expected when we started, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually a pretty accessible challenge and it's very transformative.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody that's done, it has lost at least twenty pounds. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>period of time. And then again he the first guy

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<v Speaker 2>having after having done a million steps, but just just

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<v Speaker 8>They increasing physical activity compared to what they've norm and living.

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<v Speaker 7>Qualm.

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<v Speaker 6>I love what you're doing. The only qualm I aver

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<v Speaker 3>Take that are they're going to kill?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? This depends on your goals, right, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>to be healthy like that. You don't need that much cardio.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, you know, be in optimal cardio fitness. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it ultimately just depends on your goals and in balancing

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<v Speaker 2>how much you're eating with how much you're burning wherever

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<v Speaker 2>you know, wherever you're burning it, whether you're burning it

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<v Speaker 2>in the gym or you're burning it pavement.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it just depends. I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of us are on the lower end of the

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<v Speaker 2>whether whether we're in general good fitness or not. And

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<v Speaker 2>so and honestly, the majority of us need to lose

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<v Speaker 8>I tell you really take this seriously, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>not that we don't take things seriously, but we certain

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<v Speaker 8>people here probably call people fat supposts saying they aren't

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, that's that's fair. You know, you gotta It

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have time to process like a political answer.

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<v Speaker 2>ever since then, she's been running every day. We'reing two

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<v Speaker 3>So it just depends.

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<v Speaker 2>Like and that's the thing about especially early stage startup

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<v Speaker 2>problems than anybody else, and then ultimately something pops and

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<v Speaker 2>and then and then you start to scale. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>was that was on some level, like a test, like Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so when we send push notifications also in the app,

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<v Speaker 2>like we we test different uh different nudgets, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>one one night we sent message out at like ten o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>like put that phone down, whatever it is, go wait

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<v Speaker 2>till tomorrow. Some dude came up to me next day, Hey, well,

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<v Speaker 2>and I put my phone down. So that's really like

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<v Speaker 2>we're just trying to stay as close to the problem

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<v Speaker 2>as possible so we can be as responsive to people's

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<v Speaker 2>needs and ultimately be the be the best solution.

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<v Speaker 4>Lingo was black and cared about your physical health. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Just about to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I definitely like that concept. Maybe not quite

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<v Speaker 2>as like toxic, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Figure on the almost that you did this, Publee, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really cool.

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<v Speaker 6>Congratulations by the way, him, Yeah, yeah, thank you. There's

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<v Speaker 6>your Does your app just do like cardio pick up

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<v Speaker 6>and does it like a just to people's lifestyles and

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<v Speaker 6>how they live or you know, when you're gathering that

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<v Speaker 6>information on them, or does it run rubrics off of

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<v Speaker 6>the expected lifestyle of somebody and what I mean by that,

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<v Speaker 6>just to clarify, is most people work at eight to

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<v Speaker 6>five and then they work out after.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe during lunch. Does you go off of that rubrick or.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe there are other people who have different types of

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<v Speaker 6>black styles and they works out at two in the morning,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean, Like does your pick up

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<v Speaker 6>on that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, we track over one hundred different metrics across

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<v Speaker 2>seven categories of health and you can you can track

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<v Speaker 2>exactly how many, but there might be a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>hundred different activities on the app. So we integrate with Fitbit, Garmin,

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<v Speaker 2>Apple Health, Google, Fed, Samsung, he pretty much every fitness

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<v Speaker 2>tracker and integrate with our app. And so you can

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<v Speaker 2>log your workout, whatever workout you want to do, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's weightlifting or cardio, and then that'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Send to the app, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And the algorithm, the Helsequare algorithm is just based on

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<v Speaker 2>general It's just based on essentially like workout time, resting,

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<v Speaker 3>You know, obviously the calories burned just depends on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how hard you're working during that workout, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's a run or it's a weightlifting session. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it takes into consideration the individual and so you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get scored on your sleep. So if you are working

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<v Speaker 2>out at two am, for example, and maybe you only

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<v Speaker 2>got where I was to sleep that night, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get a bump for doing your work like an

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<v Speaker 2>improvement for doing your workout, but you're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>a knock for for not sleeping, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 2>it essentially balances out. And then what we'll say is

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<v Speaker 2>in that case, for example, I always recommend that if

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<v Speaker 2>you have to choose between working out and sleeping, choose sleeping.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing is the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Important part of your health before or after after community

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<v Speaker 2>and purpose, and yeah, you just got to be non

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<v Speaker 2>negotiable about that and get that right first before anything else,

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<v Speaker 2>mainly so you can be in the right mind and

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<v Speaker 2>have energy to care about all of the other stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And that relates to health.

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<v Speaker 1>IM about to say it's not an attack on you, Sham.

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<v Speaker 1>We know about your situation.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't say that, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, the straightforward is that you have kwalme. It very

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<v Speaker 1>much sounds like Houston, Houston as far as our experience

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<v Speaker 1>with it through Sham is basically very straightforward. People like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is what it is like. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>if you feel offended, but I mean I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to not tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, well, I mean it's an emergency, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Black health problem at least that's how I regard it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, nothing has worked so far at scale,

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<v Speaker 2>and we just don't really have time to beat around

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<v Speaker 2>the bush about it because people are losing their lives

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<v Speaker 2>to preventable conditions in their forties and leaving their their

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<v Speaker 2>children and are for situations than they have to be

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<v Speaker 2>much of that from happening as possible.

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<v Speaker 7>So I agree. I was pretty diabetic, just so you know.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I was pre diabetic and I have high

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<v Speaker 6>working out like consistently since then, mm hmm. Like see,

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<v Speaker 6>they want to see it down like like super normal,

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<v Speaker 6>my blood pressure super normal. So like I try to

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<v Speaker 6>speak to that all the time, that people should just

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<v Speaker 6>be healthy, workout, go to the gym as part of

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<v Speaker 7>I'm starting to tell you, like a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 6>Leg workouts really improve and that has to go with cardio,

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<v Speaker 6>really improve your your sexual album, right, how long you last,

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<v Speaker 6>how strong you are instead of you having to take

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<v Speaker 7>Like I'm anti medicine one hundreds And.

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<v Speaker 6>I know you're in a medical field, so you probably

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<v Speaker 6>hate me for saying that, but I'm super anti medicine.

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<v Speaker 6>Think with intimate and fasting and working out, you can

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent. No, I'm with you. I would medicine

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<v Speaker 3>has its place. Like our healthcare system is.

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<v Speaker 2>Really a disease management system, right, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>agree with the terminology actually of the system. It shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be called the healthcare system. It's the disease management system

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<v Speaker 2>and an acute care system, and it does a really

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<v Speaker 2>good job of that, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's profitable, it's very profitable.

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<v Speaker 2>But only ten percent of your health health is determined

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<v Speaker 2>by you engaging with the healthcare system, right, So like

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<v Speaker 2>going to the primary care doctor or you know, specialty

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<v Speaker 2>doctor for different situations, only ten percent of your health

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<v Speaker 2>is determined by that. Another ten percent is determined by

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<v Speaker 2>your genetics. Rest is depending on how you engage with

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<v Speaker 2>spend the majority of my time in that eighty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>And like you're saying, like, how do we make health

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<v Speaker 2>a part of your life, not necessarily this extra thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you have to do, And how do people make

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<v Speaker 2>it a non negotiable in their life kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>as the foundation of it's like their vision for their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything else, I'm going to be healthy and well

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<v Speaker 2>so that I can give myself the best chance that

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is I want in this life, and my

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<v Speaker 2>family whatever they want it this life, that's like our

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<v Speaker 6>And so what I noticed in the black community, sorry

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<v Speaker 6>to cut you off, is just that we have a

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<v Speaker 6>not so much the black community thing, it's an American thing.

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<v Speaker 6>America cares more about what they can get out of

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<v Speaker 6>you than what they can do for you. So that

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<v Speaker 6>goes through jobs and businesses. They want to work you

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<v Speaker 6>commuting alone, going to the job, dealing with family and

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<v Speaker 6>health issues. It creates little time for self improvement, self work, health,

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<v Speaker 6>all of that. So I think we have a societal

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<v Speaker 6>issue that is anti keeping you healthy, but more so

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<v Speaker 6>just keeping you alive, leaves your thrive.

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<v Speaker 2>of its people become sick, right and it can't even

430
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<v Speaker 2>walk a mile without getting out of breath. And I

431
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<v Speaker 2>don't know if they're allowing this to happen, then on

432
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<v Speaker 2>some level they probably.

433
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<v Speaker 3>Don't care.

434
00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Because they don't need us or won't need us in

435
00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:11.200
<v Speaker 2>the future. And that's a you know, a bit of.

436
00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:12.160
<v Speaker 3>A morbid thought, but.

437
00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:17.759
<v Speaker 2>I means probably not going to not the country anyway

438
00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:22.279
<v Speaker 2>implement any systems that start to mitigate that. Now you

439
00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:26.319
<v Speaker 2>know here that they're they're making noises about removing certain

440
00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:28.319
<v Speaker 2>chemicals and stuff like that from foods, and I hope

441
00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:35.400
<v Speaker 2>they do those things. But the entire half of the country,

442
00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:38.119
<v Speaker 2>half of the adults in the country have one or two,

443
00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:41.799
<v Speaker 2>one or more chronic conditions hypertension, type two diabetes, some

444
00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:50.319
<v Speaker 2>form of cancer. And that's an adult population, and that's

445
00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:52.839
<v Speaker 2>just not it doesn't have to be that way, all right.

446
00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:54.920
<v Speaker 2>So my grandfather, he's eighty seven years old, he doesn't

447
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<v Speaker 2>have a single chronic health condition.

448
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<v Speaker 3>Wow, but that's not common.

449
00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:05.240
<v Speaker 2>But just because something is common doesn't mean it's normal, right,

450
00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:10.200
<v Speaker 2>And so we almost normalized taking pills to treat medications.

451
00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:13.559
<v Speaker 2>And then doctors on some level I think are responsible

452
00:23:13.599 --> 00:23:17.039
<v Speaker 2>for this, but maybe think they're doing the right thing

453
00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:20.759
<v Speaker 2>or just trying to make people feel okay. But they'll

454
00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:22.559
<v Speaker 2>go in or a person will go into the doctor,

455
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:26.279
<v Speaker 2>they'll get diagnosed with, you know, pre diabetes or diabetes

456
00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:28.880
<v Speaker 2>or something like that, and then the doctor's like, well,

457
00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:32.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, you know it runs in African Americans.

458
00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:36.559
<v Speaker 2>It's you know, it's hereditary, all this stuff. And again,

459
00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:40.079
<v Speaker 2>your health outcomes are only ten percent of your health

460
00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:44.240
<v Speaker 2>outcomes are determined by your genetics, right, But just because

461
00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:47.160
<v Speaker 2>your parents have something or your siblings have something, doesn't

462
00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:48.759
<v Speaker 2>mean that you have to have it. And I think

463
00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:51.559
<v Speaker 2>that the doctors do this to pacify people, make them

464
00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:54.599
<v Speaker 2>feel a little bit better or less yeah, less bad

465
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<v Speaker 2>about themselves for having the condition. But type two diabetes, hypertension,

466
00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:04.400
<v Speaker 2>mini cancers, heart disease, those are preventable things like they're preventable, period.

467
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<v Speaker 3>These are not conditioned.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Like again on the whole, not talking about you know,

469
00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:13.519
<v Speaker 2>different cases type one diabetes for example. These these are

470
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<v Speaker 2>entirely preventable, and.

471
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<v Speaker 4>It keeps people passive. Say that again, it keeps people passive,

472
00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:22.400
<v Speaker 4>you can say, oh.

473
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<v Speaker 2>It and allows people to continue living the way that

474
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<v Speaker 2>they are.

475
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<v Speaker 4>The process profitable, you know, push more medicine.

476
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<v Speaker 2>M hm, that's there. That's their prerogative. My job is

477
00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:38.279
<v Speaker 2>to shift that whether people want.

478
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<v Speaker 4>It or not, one stemp at a time.

479
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's why it's called the startup, Right,

480
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:47.920
<v Speaker 1>You're disrupting the current status quo, which is, uh, we

481
00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:52.000
<v Speaker 1>have a cute healthcare system and uh, we just want

482
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<v Speaker 1>to have you be sick enough to be able to

483
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<v Speaker 1>pay us money, but not so sick that you die immediately.

484
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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

485
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<v Speaker 3>That's expensive to them.

486
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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it is, because there needs to be a certain

487
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:06.559
<v Speaker 1>amount of people to keep everybody else in line. But besides,

488
00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, crushing people's understanding of the government. Can you

489
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<v Speaker 1>tell us more about kind of the health gaps that

490
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<v Speaker 1>are in like underserved communities, because I think your app

491
00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>is like the first that I've heard aim specifically at

492
00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>a problem within the black community.

493
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<v Speaker 2>And so I did my master's in public health as

494
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<v Speaker 2>Xavier with the concentration of health equity, and so just

495
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<v Speaker 2>to kind of lay the land. Public health is the

496
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<v Speaker 2>art and science of prolonging life. So as a public

497
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<v Speaker 2>health practitioner, my job is to help human beings live

498
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<v Speaker 2>as long as they possibly can and as healthy as

499
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<v Speaker 2>they possibly can, well they are alive.

500
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<v Speaker 3>In the United States, there is a about a.

501
00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:54.599
<v Speaker 2>Six to seven year life expectancy gap between black people

502
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<v Speaker 2>and the rest of the population. So like people are

503
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<v Speaker 2>living on average stage seventy two seventy four, the rest

504
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>of the population seventy eight eighty.

505
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:10.480
<v Speaker 3>That gap doesn't necessarily sound that big.

506
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 2>To some people, but when you extrapolate that out to

507
00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:17.920
<v Speaker 2>the entire black population, right, so it's fifty million plus

508
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:19.880
<v Speaker 2>in the US now, it comes out to like two

509
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<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty million years of lost time in the

510
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<v Speaker 2>black community. That's time with you know, money and index funds.

511
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<v Speaker 2>That's time with your family and mentorship. I mean, there's

512
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 2>so much opportunity that we're missing out on because largely

513
00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:46.200
<v Speaker 2>driven by really death to preventable conditions and that's created

514
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:51.400
<v Speaker 2>bare health. To recapture that life lost, that's our that's

515
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:56.119
<v Speaker 2>our mission because fortunately these conditions and kind of the

516
00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:58.759
<v Speaker 2>trajectory that we're on can be slow stopped and even

517
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<v Speaker 2>reversed through lifestyle intervention. I'm really transforming communities to where

518
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:09.079
<v Speaker 2>they're health promoting, and that's ultimately what we're trying to do.

519
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:12.400
<v Speaker 2>We're not necessarily trying to close the life expectancy gap.

520
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not necessarily interested in how we compare to others.

521
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:19.160
<v Speaker 2>It's trying to maximize health in the black community. What

522
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>is our ultimate potential? That's what I'm most interested in,

523
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:27.039
<v Speaker 2>and in creating a blueprinting path for people to achieve that.

524
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:30.480
<v Speaker 4>He said, six to eight years.

525
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:36.079
<v Speaker 8>That's enough to get to know a small child.

526
00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.200
<v Speaker 4>A great grand kid, and that can make all the difference.

527
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.440
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I mean some gaps are even more stark,

528
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.200
<v Speaker 2>like here in New Orleans, average life expectancy in like

529
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.440
<v Speaker 2>the wealthier neighborhood in the city, it's eighty and less

530
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.079
<v Speaker 2>than three miles away, there's a community with the average

531
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:54.079
<v Speaker 2>life expectancy of fifty four years. So we can get

532
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:56.079
<v Speaker 2>gap can get even wider.

533
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<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, that's that's large, really really large. Not

534
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:04.640
<v Speaker 1>to cut you off too much there, but looking at

535
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<v Speaker 1>like I'm looking at something from few research and showing

536
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>like black men versus black women, Like, we start out

537
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:17.039
<v Speaker 1>pretty even then around like thirty to thirty four, we

538
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>just start dropping in comparison to black women. Is there

539
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 1>any component, especially since this is the podcast where primarily

540
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of our audiences are black men, Is this

541
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 1>like the call to action for us?

542
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, we.

543
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Women are going to the doctor more. And again I'm

544
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:39.359
<v Speaker 2>not saying that you necessarily have to go to the

545
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>doctor to be healthy. You do need to get some

546
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:44.720
<v Speaker 2>checkups to make sure that you know, again your blood pressures,

547
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:47.960
<v Speaker 2>in check, your blood sugar level, so on and so forth. Again,

548
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:49.839
<v Speaker 2>most of your health is determined about how you engage

549
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>with the world. But early detection is like the number

550
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:59.079
<v Speaker 2>one tool we have for dealing with really any condition,

551
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:03.000
<v Speaker 2>especially for menable ones. And because black men aren't going

552
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 2>to the doctor the rates nearly at the rates that

553
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>women are, there's catching things earlier. We don't catch these

554
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:16.039
<v Speaker 2>things until, like they're at later stages because for different

555
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:18.079
<v Speaker 2>reasons we're putting it off. You know, we don't trust

556
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.759
<v Speaker 2>talk if we don't feel like me nobody, you know

557
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, like different things like that, And you know,

558
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I get it. I have the same kind of cautions

559
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:31.079
<v Speaker 2>but if we can somehow put the fear in front

560
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:37.039
<v Speaker 2>of people like that, that like it's gonna have to

561
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have to draw on fear to me, like

562
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 2>the idea of promote like being healthy me isn't enough

563
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 2>a motivator.

564
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:46.480
<v Speaker 3>If you guys heard about that that mouse.

565
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Study where they had the basically the mouse had to

566
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 2>go get to the peanut butter or the cheese or whatever,

567
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:57.079
<v Speaker 2>and so they time the rat the mouse with just

568
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.200
<v Speaker 2>the cheese or the peanut butter as the driver get

569
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.160
<v Speaker 2>through the mains. They did that once and then they

570
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 2>did it another time where they wafted cat oder behind

571
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 2>it and had the change.

572
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:08.839
<v Speaker 3>So much faster.

573
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:12.200
<v Speaker 2>And that one right because it was scared scared of

574
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:17.200
<v Speaker 2>something too, And so I think you need both, yeah,

575
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>to make commitment. And oftentimes people don't change until they

576
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>have a heart attack or you know again until until

577
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:30.559
<v Speaker 2>the problem is here. And yeah, we we just we

578
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.359
<v Speaker 2>just have to flip that that motivation to where it's.

579
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Getting ahead of it.

580
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 4>Like both the goal and fear of some form of.

581
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:41.359
<v Speaker 3>Loss absolutely.

582
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely bad.

583
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:51.039
<v Speaker 8>Noe Uh what part you say you from Houston? Were

584
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:53.680
<v Speaker 8>you born in Houston then moved to Louisiana.

585
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Or yeah, I was born in New Orleans, grew up

586
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:57.160
<v Speaker 2>in Houston.

587
00:30:57.920 --> 00:30:59.359
<v Speaker 4>Ah what part of Houston grew up in?

588
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.160
<v Speaker 3>I grew up in Kingwood, South, OK.

589
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:11.319
<v Speaker 4>Don't see too many Houston people around these parts.

590
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Say you say that like I don't go to Houston

591
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>all the time for.

592
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:20.480
<v Speaker 4>Work, going to and being from a very very different statements.

593
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I'm just saying, like, I see.

594
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:25.920
<v Speaker 8>You're taking this Drake thing a little bit too seriously.

595
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:27.039
<v Speaker 8>You can't just go to a place a couple of

596
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:27.880
<v Speaker 8>time people from there.

597
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:30.519
<v Speaker 1>Look, man, first and foremost, you don't have to bring

598
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:32.319
<v Speaker 1>that up. You can just let that go. He's not

599
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>even in Houston. He's in whatever the part is where

600
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>all the rich Nigerians lived.

601
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 4>You would know where that is before I would.

602
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, no, we we we always have that

603
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:50.599
<v Speaker 1>that fun banter.

604
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:55.319
<v Speaker 3>But worried about my boy Drake though, I mean you.

605
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Don't need to be worried about him. I mean, he

606
00:31:57.359 --> 00:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>seems like he's finally realizing you released music and people

607
00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:02.559
<v Speaker 1>to stop dancing to the songs that they'll probably still

608
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 1>be dancing to it people's weddings in five years, right.

609
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've seen more not like us at weddings,

610
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>and I've seen it anywhere else, and it's like, it's

611
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:17.119
<v Speaker 1>a very very interesting, uh interesting place to play this song.

612
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:20.880
<v Speaker 4>At my wedding. Nothing but Kelly is going down.

613
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, bro, I saw somebody play a Diddy

614
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 1>song the other day and I was looking at them like,

615
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 1>don't you like give us some time here?

616
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:29.559
<v Speaker 7>Sir?

617
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 4>He was like many songs really bright.

618
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:40.160
<v Speaker 5>Listening to did Bro you know exactly?

619
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 4>That was it?

620
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:46.559
<v Speaker 1>That was yeah? Exactly bad boys like that was it?

621
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 4>That was a song that every step.

622
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>No, that's that's more Faith Evans than than Diddy.

623
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:58.599
<v Speaker 4>Diddy raps. She just did the hook, Yeah you care

624
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:02.000
<v Speaker 4>about it? Nah? It was his verse, bro, he was

625
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:02.759
<v Speaker 4>he was in there.

626
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, repeat his verse then me.

627
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty sure Jada Kits wrote that, but.

628
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably verseig.

629
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 4>I can't repeat a verse.

630
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>That's what I thought.

631
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:18.079
<v Speaker 8>How much do you think Diddy has done for health

632
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:19.119
<v Speaker 8>in the black community?

633
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 5>Mental health? Like like terrible, he's been killing us all right,

634
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:28.480
<v Speaker 5>I want to at least tie back in.

635
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, as your attorney, I can tell you complete

636
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the fifth on this one. You don't have to answer

637
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>this at all. This is solishness.

638
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.200
<v Speaker 4>If you don't, you gotta go down the baby or

639
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 4>slip and slide.

640
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 7>He does not, sir.

641
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 1>We do important talking about that one brother on the

642
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:47.759
<v Speaker 1>trip because then when.

643
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:51.000
<v Speaker 5>Somebody's like, he's gonna be a long rapist, I mean

644
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<v Speaker 5>philanthropists now.

645
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<v Speaker 1>That joke from always Philadelphia never never gets older, but

646
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 1>definitely does date you. And people are not going to

647
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<v Speaker 1>get it because they didn't see the ship.

648
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<v Speaker 5>Not about who gets it, but I give it. It's

649
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:10.880
<v Speaker 5>kind of like that reference self satisfaction. Yeah, okay, apartment,

650
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:13.400
<v Speaker 5>but you got I'm.

651
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<v Speaker 1>Going instead of going off into our normal tangents. So

652
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<v Speaker 1>has a plant based lifestyle enhance your physical and mental performance?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>So I started eating the plant based about ten years

655
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:29.599
<v Speaker 2>ago after my senior year of college. Started off really

656
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<v Speaker 2>just for the environmental impact you want to that's one

657
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:37.519
<v Speaker 2>light area where I just think we're running an interesting

658
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 2>experiment with the with the planet. And I'm not saying

659
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:44.519
<v Speaker 2>that there's necessarily anything that we can do for sure,

660
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:48.719
<v Speaker 2>but if there's anything I can do to like reduce

661
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:53.039
<v Speaker 2>my contribution to us getting put in a bad situation

662
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.280
<v Speaker 2>sooner than later than, I'm gonna try to do that.

663
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:59.679
<v Speaker 2>And my concerns with the environment aren't necessarily that, like

664
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<v Speaker 2>the environment is going to get so bad that you

665
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<v Speaker 2>know it like just like we burn up or get

666
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.159
<v Speaker 2>washed away, but the storms and stuff are going to

667
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 2>become so frequent, Like the disaster is going to become

668
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:14.719
<v Speaker 2>so frequent that it displaces more people at once than

669
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<v Speaker 2>like all of our safety net systems have the capacity

670
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 2>to kind of mitigate. And then we get all you know,

671
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:26.039
<v Speaker 2>tribal well taken care of human beings are good people

672
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>not well taken care of human beings. You are trying

673
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:33.280
<v Speaker 2>to eat and protect their families. And so anyway, that's

674
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:36.760
<v Speaker 2>my brant on. That's why I started. It didn't really

675
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.760
<v Speaker 2>become about health until about a couple of years later.

676
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:42.679
<v Speaker 2>I started going to different conferences related to health and

677
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.960
<v Speaker 2>play based eating. But I didn't really notice much at

678
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.960
<v Speaker 2>first because I'm still, you know, pretty young and indecent shape,

679
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.920
<v Speaker 2>because I just finished my collegiate career as are running well.

680
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.840
<v Speaker 2>What I will say is that most of the problems

681
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 2>that my friends are dealing with now that people deal

682
00:35:58.239 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>with day to day, I don't deal with that at all.

683
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 3>Headaches.

684
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.840
<v Speaker 2>I haven't had a headache, well outside of a late

685
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:05.960
<v Speaker 2>night like a bachelor party or something like that. I

686
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 2>don't have like headaches on a regular basis. I work

687
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.679
<v Speaker 2>about fourteen hours a day with no problem, don't get tired,

688
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:18.519
<v Speaker 2>no naps needed. And then when it comes to like

689
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 2>eating plant based die, specifically a whole food plant based died, Yeah,

690
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:25.800
<v Speaker 2>my body's not having to work as hard to process

691
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:29.039
<v Speaker 2>the food as as it would if I was eating

692
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 2>say a standard American diet, you know, high and fat,

693
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:37.840
<v Speaker 2>high in processed foods, and so just essentially I'm not

694
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:41.320
<v Speaker 2>having to burn as much energy to process food, and

695
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:43.920
<v Speaker 2>so I have a lot more energy to do everything.

696
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:46.719
<v Speaker 3>Else that I spent my time doing.

697
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:49.559
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's when it comes to the plant based eating.

698
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you guys are familiar with blue zones.

699
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<v Speaker 2>Blue zones are these areas where people are living into

700
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:59.320
<v Speaker 2>their one hundreds more than other parts nearby, so they're

701
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 2>think about eight blue zones. I forget the exact number

702
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:05.119
<v Speaker 2>some people so or some areas are no longer blue

703
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.440
<v Speaker 2>zones because you know, not as many people are living

704
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.519
<v Speaker 2>into one hundred because they're becoming westernized. But there's one

705
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:14.239
<v Speaker 2>in Low Malinda, California. There's one in Costa Rica, one

706
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.880
<v Speaker 2>in one in Japan. Basically they go and study these

707
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>these communities, these populations and try to identify why they're

708
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 2>living well until they're one hundreds and all of them

709
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:28.000
<v Speaker 2>eat ninety five to one hundred percent plant based sides.

710
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:30.920
<v Speaker 2>So my first thing when it comes to plant based

711
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 2>and the message is you have to understand that you

712
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:39.440
<v Speaker 2>can absolutely live healthy and long and strong without eating meat.

713
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:43.480
<v Speaker 2>And this isn't this isn't like a message to get

714
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.079
<v Speaker 2>people to stop eating meat, but to drop the idea

715
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:49.320
<v Speaker 2>that it's a necessity because especially here in America, like

716
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:53.280
<v Speaker 2>everybody's big on protein and protein and protein, but again,

717
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:56.360
<v Speaker 2>we're not living nearly as long as these people, and

718
00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.639
<v Speaker 2>all they eat is plants for the most part. And

719
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:03.599
<v Speaker 2>so that's really what I draw on because my focus

720
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<v Speaker 2>in my goal is longevity. So what are the longest

721
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:07.679
<v Speaker 2>lived people doing? And we go do what they're doing.

722
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:11.400
<v Speaker 2>And that's kind of why I've been able to stick

723
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:15.119
<v Speaker 2>with it and the message that I have for people

724
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:15.679
<v Speaker 2>with that.

725
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:18.639
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for kind of expanding on that. I know

726
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:21.400
<v Speaker 1>for some people, you know, they hear the plant based

727
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:23.760
<v Speaker 1>thing and they think, oh, I can't whatever, But eighty

728
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<v Speaker 1>five to eighty to ninety five percent. I think that's

729
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:32.199
<v Speaker 1>that's entirely doable. It's something where you're not giving up everything,

730
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>but you are making a priority to eat more food

731
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:39.079
<v Speaker 1>that are plant based. We've had a couple of people

732
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:46.840
<v Speaker 1>from doctor mccayba Mooring. We also had gosh, what is

733
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:47.559
<v Speaker 1>the guy's name?

734
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:52.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, something, I know what you're talking about.

735
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we had. We had both of them on

736
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.519
<v Speaker 1>the podcast and they're also talking about the same thing.

737
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.639
<v Speaker 1>And with doctor Kable Warren like I kept up, yeah, Ki,

738
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:05.039
<v Speaker 1>thank you appreciate it well, Doctor Michable morning. Like after

739
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.559
<v Speaker 1>that episode, I really did start eating or did stop

740
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.320
<v Speaker 1>start skipping a meal every single week. I did that

741
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 1>until basically about this year when I decided that I

742
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.599
<v Speaker 1>wasn't getting the exact same benefits out and that may

743
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:20.360
<v Speaker 1>be more so me than the actual diet. But you know,

744
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:23.119
<v Speaker 1>like taking that twenty four hours off, like you know,

745
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:25.559
<v Speaker 1>after a while, you get kind of used to it.

746
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Because people at like my company now that I work,

747
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>they're like, hey, like you going to lunch. It's like, yeah,

748
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:33.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't take lunch till three. They're like, why don't

749
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you eat until three? It's like because I don't feel

750
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>like I have to eat till three, I'll drink water

751
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:39.159
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and I'm trying to get better at that

752
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:43.079
<v Speaker 1>because Sham will throw a bottle at me. But you know,

753
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:46.280
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, like, you know, it's That's one

754
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<v Speaker 1>of the things I think Sham does that he doesn't

755
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:53.679
<v Speaker 1>give himself credit for, is Sham religiously drinks water like

756
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:58.360
<v Speaker 1>all the time. And it's like maybe to ninety percent

757
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:00.320
<v Speaker 1>of what he drinks and the rest is gin, but

758
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<v Speaker 1>it's mostly water.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm. A simple man, they say, They say Jen

760
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.400
<v Speaker 2>is a healthier, healthier liquor.

761
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:12.119
<v Speaker 1>You know. Shoot, so you're saying Sham was better all along.

762
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a bit cleaner, but I know so. I'm

763
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:19.119
<v Speaker 2>actually a big proponent of fasting. Fast thing is actually

764
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:21.480
<v Speaker 2>the most powerful thing you can do to extend your lifespan,

765
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:27.039
<v Speaker 2>mainly because it's given your body a break from processing work.

766
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:31.800
<v Speaker 2>You're right, exactly work and focusing on repair. And so

767
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:36.880
<v Speaker 2>when you fast, you you trigger what's called autophagy auto fager,

768
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.639
<v Speaker 2>depending how you want to pronounce it, and it basically

769
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:44.280
<v Speaker 2>is where your body, you know, uses stored energy or

770
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 2>energy and it's our bodies are so smart that when

771
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:50.880
<v Speaker 2>they're in this state, they go and use old damaged

772
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:55.039
<v Speaker 2>cells and proteins first and break those down and turn

773
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:59.519
<v Speaker 2>them into new, younger cells and proteins. So essentially like

774
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.159
<v Speaker 2>cleaning up the body. And most of us are eating

775
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 2>around the clock, right We're eating first thing in the morning,

776
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:09.199
<v Speaker 2>and then we're snacking until we pass out, and so

777
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:11.880
<v Speaker 2>we only have like this six hour window where we're

778
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:15.360
<v Speaker 2>not and so you people are never entering the state

779
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:18.039
<v Speaker 2>where their body is cleaning itself up. And when you

780
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:20.760
<v Speaker 2>think about things like cancers or again, the majority of

781
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:25.159
<v Speaker 2>these conditions cancer cells are really just like mistakes that

782
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.079
<v Speaker 2>mistakes in replication, and these mistakes come from you know

783
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 2>where and tear just like any other system. And so

784
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:35.199
<v Speaker 2>fasting gives your body an opportunity to go clean up

785
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and get rid of all of these mistakes and so

786
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.719
<v Speaker 2>ultimately reducing your chance of developing these conditions.

787
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 3>And so not to bring the mice.

788
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Back into it, but they did a study where they

789
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:49.360
<v Speaker 2>had one group of mice eat this whenever they wanted basically,

790
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.480
<v Speaker 2>and then one group eight between twelve and eight pm.

791
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:54.639
<v Speaker 2>And this is actually where that twelve eight pm, you

792
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:57.679
<v Speaker 2>know intermittent fasting window came from. It's not necessarily based

793
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:02.079
<v Speaker 2>on human results, it's just that was just the window

794
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:03.559
<v Speaker 2>that made sense for the researcher.

795
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 3>With that study.

796
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:07.559
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, they ate the same amount of food and they

797
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:09.559
<v Speaker 2>ate the same type of food. The group that ate

798
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:13.079
<v Speaker 2>between twelve pm and eight pm lived thirty percent longer.

799
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Like with that, that's that's so significant. That's such a

800
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:19.440
<v Speaker 2>significant amount of time. And when you know, all of

801
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 2>the mechanisms that turn on in those mice that we're

802
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.159
<v Speaker 2>living longer turn on in us when we fast as well.

803
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:26.519
<v Speaker 3>So to me, the real silver bullet, because you know.

804
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Obviously I've been trying to figure out exactly how to

805
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.719
<v Speaker 2>get people to eat better. To me, if we could

806
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:34.000
<v Speaker 2>just give people to skip a meal, skip breakfast, or

807
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:38.000
<v Speaker 2>skip dinner have tremendous impact. It doesn't also doesn't cost

808
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:40.039
<v Speaker 2>any money to skip a meal or do you save money.

809
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.320
<v Speaker 4>In fact, I know about that.

810
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:48.480
<v Speaker 2>It's just so powerful. So I'm glad you guys brought

811
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:53.280
<v Speaker 2>up fast because there's anything that if we get adopted

812
00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:55.559
<v Speaker 2>at scale, that would that would transform health outcomes into

813
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:56.559
<v Speaker 2>black community to be that.

814
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Definitely definitely thinking back kind of about what you were

815
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>saying as far as kind of like changing like not

816
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:13.440
<v Speaker 1>just our health outcomes, but what do you think from

817
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:17.679
<v Speaker 1>a community standpoint, I would having a better handle on

818
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>our health impact the Black community.

819
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:24.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I will say that community is part of health.

820
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:30.679
<v Speaker 2>So I'll say first, I think again, the longer we

821
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:33.239
<v Speaker 2>can be here, the more we can do, and the

822
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:38.000
<v Speaker 2>more we can leave for future generations. Again, to me,

823
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:40.679
<v Speaker 2>it's a non negotiable that that we that we start

824
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:44.320
<v Speaker 2>with health because everything is dependent on it. Think about it.

825
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Think about how how disease and unhealth shakes up families,

826
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 2>especially you know when when it happens in an unexpected way,

827
00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:02.800
<v Speaker 2>it can can really disrupt the financial situations. Puts a

828
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:06.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of people in debt, a lot of people file bankruptcy.

829
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:07.679
<v Speaker 2>I think I think it may be actually be the

830
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.119
<v Speaker 2>number one the double check, but I think it maybe

831
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:14.760
<v Speaker 2>the number one cause of like personal bankruptcy. So when

832
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:18.639
<v Speaker 2>people go talk about like, oh man, I don't want

833
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.280
<v Speaker 2>to eat healthy because it's expensive, well eat unhealthy. There's

834
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:26.679
<v Speaker 2>a health tax that comes later, right, and it takes

835
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:29.039
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people out and takes families out. So

836
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:32.119
<v Speaker 2>in order like you want to be in the best

837
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 2>position you can, because life is always going to be throwing,

838
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:39.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, obstacles at you. And so just like the

839
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:42.840
<v Speaker 2>COVID nineteen pandemic, right, this that's what actually motivated me

840
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:46.480
<v Speaker 2>to start Bare Health. When you think about the people

841
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:49.159
<v Speaker 2>who had the most severe outcomes with the COVID nineteen pandemic,

842
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:53.159
<v Speaker 2>they were already in a compromise state. They were dealing

843
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:55.840
<v Speaker 2>with high pertension, type two diabetes, and because their defense

844
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.119
<v Speaker 2>systems were so focused on those conditions or just tired

845
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.079
<v Speaker 2>from dealing with those conditions, when they when they encountered

846
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:05.119
<v Speaker 2>the COVID nineteen virus there they could get everything just

847
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:06.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of started to fall apart. So you just have

848
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:09.639
<v Speaker 2>to be ready because you never know what's going to

849
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:12.679
<v Speaker 2>come and and sometimes it'll be a pandemic, or sometimes

850
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:17.880
<v Speaker 2>it'll be to run across the street, and it's just

851
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:23.159
<v Speaker 2>it's just fundamental to to be ready for for whatever

852
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:25.360
<v Speaker 2>challenges we face as a community, so we can all

853
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 2>be as sharp and as as astrong as we need

854
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 2>to be in these situations.

855
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, you are correct. It is the number one reason

856
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:37.239
<v Speaker 1>for bankruptcy in the United States medical expenses. So yeah,

857
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>if we can eliminate that, then that that could keep

858
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 1>a little more money in Big Mama's pocket, which hopefully

859
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:51.400
<v Speaker 1>she can pass on to future generations. Absolutely, like we're

860
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:54.400
<v Speaker 1>hoping that, you know, you don't lose a leg, as

861
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:57.079
<v Speaker 1>you heard from Quarmbing, like his grandfather still out here,

862
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:00.519
<v Speaker 1>no problems whatsoever in the seventies. I mean that's how eighties.

863
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:03.800
<v Speaker 1>My grandfather was eighties, sorry, eighties, that's how what's my

864
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:07.840
<v Speaker 1>grandfather as well? Like you know, no problems, no, no, nothing,

865
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:12.039
<v Speaker 1>just his only thing was that he just got older

866
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and a little bit of other things. But you know,

867
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:23.400
<v Speaker 1>everybody's got their thing. If you could change one thing

868
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:27.400
<v Speaker 1>about kind of how we start our days as black people,

869
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.320
<v Speaker 1>what's one thing you would change, and I'll give you

870
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:32.199
<v Speaker 1>full car blanche.

871
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:33.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's got it.

872
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 2>The first thing that's coming to my mind is the phone.

873
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:39.519
<v Speaker 2>If we could just like sit with our thoughts like

874
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:41.679
<v Speaker 2>ten fifteen minutes when we first wake up, as opposed

875
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:43.960
<v Speaker 2>to grabbing the phone, it's like put the world down

876
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 2>for a second. I think that we can be a

877
00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 2>bit more intentional about the rest of our day. Thataca

878
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:04.840
<v Speaker 2>skipping men's in particular, skipping breakfast, women, skipping, skipping dinner,

879
00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:06.519
<v Speaker 2>make a bigger breakfast.

880
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:08.199
<v Speaker 3>There are some differences.

881
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.159
<v Speaker 2>When it comes to like the fasting or eating eating schedule.

882
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:15.000
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, just like get get the dairy, get the

883
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:18.039
<v Speaker 2>get the process, meet and get the all that out

884
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:19.920
<v Speaker 2>of the out of the first part of your day

885
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:23.360
<v Speaker 2>and and swap it out for like fruit and then

886
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:27.280
<v Speaker 2>some some fibrous foods for singing in the morning and

887
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:30.440
<v Speaker 2>so the meditation and some fruit in the morning.

888
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:32.599
<v Speaker 3>That's what I was saying.

889
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:35.519
<v Speaker 4>Yurt.

890
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:37.039
<v Speaker 3>Say that again.

891
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:39.639
<v Speaker 4>Are you against yogurt? I don't mean that like an

892
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:40.480
<v Speaker 4>aggressive way.

893
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I mean it's a dairymall.

894
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

895
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:46.880
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean eighty percent of black people are lactose

896
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:50.159
<v Speaker 2>intolerant now, the degree to which varies, but.

897
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:53.880
<v Speaker 3>We shouldn't be eating here earlier.

898
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:57.639
<v Speaker 8>You have to bring that up, bro, You had to

899
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 8>bring that up, that stuff anyway, uh.

900
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Mister king lactose and tolerance.

901
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:09.559
<v Speaker 3>Sham uh huh, yeah, yes, Skip.

902
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean again, it's better than you know, osage and

903
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.519
<v Speaker 2>egg and cheese and biscuits. I would say yogurt is

904
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:17.519
<v Speaker 2>better than that for sure.

905
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean yogurt specifically, not like you know your play

906
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:24.199
<v Speaker 4>mm hmm.

907
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:29.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah again I stick with with yogurt is a dairy,

908
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:34.039
<v Speaker 2>but I'll take again, I'll take that over with. Most

909
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 2>of us are eating for a thing in the morning, cereal,

910
00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:39.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, high sugar cereal, things like that, but I

911
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:41.920
<v Speaker 2>don't consider it a health food for black people. Be

912
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:43.280
<v Speaker 2>mm hmm.

913
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:50.599
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, ok ahead, No, I was gonnas.

914
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:52.400
<v Speaker 8>And this may be a big crash on my part,

915
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:57.760
<v Speaker 8>But have you considered weaponizing women, uh as far as

916
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.800
<v Speaker 8>trying to shift the ideas of help?

917
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think I think women specifically like

918
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:06.400
<v Speaker 2>shifting the ideas of health for men.

919
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:11.199
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, because men often do whatever the women think is

920
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:13.519
<v Speaker 8>fancy or fancy bull at that time.

921
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:17.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, everything that men do can be can be

922
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:22.559
<v Speaker 2>tracked to getting women. So that's yeah, I agree with that.

923
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:27.800
<v Speaker 2>And you know, like so I run a round club

924
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:31.880
<v Speaker 2>here and there are a lot of attractive women in

925
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the club, and men are who don't run are coming

926
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.159
<v Speaker 2>to the club and now running just to you know,

927
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:42.360
<v Speaker 2>be around and then and they get value out of

928
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 2>the community that we built, beyond you know, the potential

929
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:49.760
<v Speaker 2>opportunity they might have with a woman there. But yeah,

930
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean this one guy who like like one of

931
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:55.760
<v Speaker 2>my she's actually my former athlete. Now kind of like

932
00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:00.679
<v Speaker 2>family member at this point. But she you've been coming

933
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:02.760
<v Speaker 2>to our run clubs, you know, since we started last year,

934
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:06.320
<v Speaker 2>and this guy who you know, wanted to be with her.

935
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.159
<v Speaker 2>She she's not interested in him. But he started showing

936
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:12.000
<v Speaker 2>up every day. And now they they've kind of moved on,

937
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.639
<v Speaker 2>moved away from the idea of them having anything. He

938
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:17.400
<v Speaker 2>still shows up. Now he's part of the community, you

939
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:20.920
<v Speaker 2>see what I'm saying. So if that's the hook or

940
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:22.920
<v Speaker 2>that that's what gets people in, and then we get

941
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.119
<v Speaker 2>in the stick because of the other additional value, then

942
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:30.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think women are the strongest motivated for

943
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:35.559
<v Speaker 2>what men do. Do do anything, or to motivate them

944
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:36.199
<v Speaker 2>for health.

945
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, that's what we told you. Writer, you should have

946
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:43.480
<v Speaker 1>been here to defend yourself start a runk club.

947
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of a lot of value comes out

948
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:48.719
<v Speaker 2>of runk clubs, that's for sure.

949
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:51.000
<v Speaker 4>That says a writer here.

950
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, I just I just could not resist

951
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:58.960
<v Speaker 1>a dig at Ryder just because of whatever he has

952
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:02.920
<v Speaker 1>going on right now. Same thing for white collar Sugar.

953
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:05.000
<v Speaker 1>But he at least was kind of enough to tell

954
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:09.039
<v Speaker 1>us ahead of time and also understand, you know, being

955
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>a parent is definitely gonna be first priority, Like we're

956
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:16.280
<v Speaker 1>not everyday black men. Forget your kids, forget your wives.

957
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 1>When it's podcast time is podcast time. But at the

958
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:25.800
<v Speaker 1>same time, I mean, you know, hey, you actually you're

959
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:28.360
<v Speaker 1>telling what's going on, Like I understand that, Like I

960
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:31.119
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that everybody could come and do stuff like you

961
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>see stylists here. Man, he probably right now I'm raising goats.

962
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:37.679
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, he's still here for moral support.

963
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, man, I'm not gonna lie to you. He has

964
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:40.039
<v Speaker 4>this captive.

965
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:43.199
<v Speaker 8>He has threatened to deport two of us, and all

966
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.920
<v Speaker 8>of us are American. If you can get us help,

967
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:49.400
<v Speaker 8>you ain't you ain't.

968
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Worth a gosh dar for that one. I am not

969
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister of America, right, We have presidents here

970
00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:57.840
<v Speaker 1>and we find legal processes.

971
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:01.880
<v Speaker 3>She knew all the best. That gets important.

972
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, but not either man. It's it's a hard road.

973
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:08.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, we say you're the best country in the world,

974
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:10.000
<v Speaker 1>but then you look at our healthcare system and you're like,

975
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:11.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that.

976
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're definitely lacking in a lot of areas, even

977
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:16.840
<v Speaker 2>outside of health.

978
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Happiness in particular.

979
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like when you see like Norway's happiness, people are

980
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:25.440
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, you know, like I can feel it life

981
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'll still have a house and a wife and

982
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.360
<v Speaker 1>kids and the government will take care of me. And

983
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:33.760
<v Speaker 1>it's like no wonder of y'all. Europeans be smiling so

984
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:37.360
<v Speaker 1>hard because Norway guys they got like a freakish smiles.

985
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:39.880
<v Speaker 1>But I guess when literally you can't fail no matter

986
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:44.000
<v Speaker 1>what you do, I'd be smiling too, like, hey, life

987
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:44.480
<v Speaker 1>is ground.

988
00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:46.039
<v Speaker 4>Like you hate from outside the club, but.

989
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm hating all the way outside the club, all the

990
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.760
<v Speaker 1>way outside the club. Plus they take two months off.

991
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm so glad we don't hire those

992
00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:59.480
<v Speaker 1>people because I would be that not only do you

993
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>get all the holidays that are related to our holidays,

994
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>but you also get two months. And he basically just

995
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:06.320
<v Speaker 1>tell me, like, I'm taking off the month of October,

996
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Me and the family are going to uh visit Malaysia.

997
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:13.519
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go for an entire year or for entire

998
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:15.960
<v Speaker 1>month and see y'all when we get back.

999
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:20.280
<v Speaker 4>And were you going for the Nigerian accent there?

1000
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:23.119
<v Speaker 1>It just kind of comes out. I've been part of

1001
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:24.559
<v Speaker 1>the Nigerian culture for too long.

1002
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:26.280
<v Speaker 4>They walk a lot.

1003
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:30.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, it I mean again, the whole thing

1004
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:33.400
<v Speaker 1>is when you marry into a culture, you're supposed to

1005
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:35.920
<v Speaker 1>adopt it. Like now I see them becoming more Americanized

1006
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:38.199
<v Speaker 1>and cynical. It's like, yes, I knew I would break

1007
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:41.119
<v Speaker 1>this Nigerian hopeless optimism thing.

1008
00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:46.079
<v Speaker 4>It just took America. Broye. You might have help speak alone,

1009
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:49.440
<v Speaker 4>but you get like one good generation from wherever you

1010
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:51.599
<v Speaker 4>come from, and then your kids is American.

1011
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 1>They still they still have a lot of it. But

1012
00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:59.079
<v Speaker 1>we'll see. I mean, we haven't seen the whole second

1013
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:02.400
<v Speaker 1>generation play out. We've only seen the first. We haven't

1014
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>seen we haven't seen the whole. Uh, although I sometimes

1015
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:07.480
<v Speaker 1>see you know, like with my knees. Like sometimes you'll

1016
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:10.320
<v Speaker 1>say things it's like, oh you sweet summer child. That

1017
00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:12.599
<v Speaker 1>is not going to go like that in America. But

1018
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:14.079
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be that guy to crush the

1019
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:18.440
<v Speaker 1>child's dreams. And if you do imagine crushing child's dream read, uh,

1020
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:20.679
<v Speaker 1>don't don't do it, bro, Like, come on, we need

1021
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 1>black kids to actually feel safe and secure. They're unprotected

1022
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:25.039
<v Speaker 1>on multiple fronts.

1023
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:27.639
<v Speaker 4>I think there's there's size for that, but.

1024
00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I mean, yeah, you're not you're not entirely wrong.

1025
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:34.320
<v Speaker 1>But Bomby, we don't want to take up too much

1026
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:36.320
<v Speaker 1>of your time. You've been here with us about an hour.

1027
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Any final things you want to say, you want to

1028
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:40.679
<v Speaker 1>tell people, want a little more about the app and

1029
00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the code or anything else that you wanted to plug

1030
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:44.760
<v Speaker 1>while you're here.

1031
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:45.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure.

1032
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:49.840
<v Speaker 2>So we've been working on our in a app for

1033
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.400
<v Speaker 2>the past eighteen months called Dakka Do. So that's what

1034
00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:55.800
<v Speaker 2>we've run our platform on the majority of our users

1035
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:59.920
<v Speaker 2>are on now, but we receive some significant funding over

1036
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.760
<v Speaker 2>the past year that's going to allow us to migrate

1037
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:06.199
<v Speaker 2>to the official Bear Health app. So and say it's

1038
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:09.320
<v Speaker 2>in the beginning with Bear stams for Black Electronic Health Records.

1039
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:12.679
<v Speaker 2>So all of the user data goes into what we

1040
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:16.320
<v Speaker 2>call the Black Electronic Health Record, and on a monthly basis,

1041
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:21.199
<v Speaker 2>we're looking at the elective health trends of our user population,

1042
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.239
<v Speaker 2>which ultimately our vision is for that to be the

1043
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:27.360
<v Speaker 2>entire Black community. So each month we'll see the average

1044
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:29.800
<v Speaker 2>health score overall, we'll see the average health score by

1045
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:35.599
<v Speaker 2>underage different category that we track and be able to

1046
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:40.280
<v Speaker 2>use that data to inform and drive different community health solutions.

1047
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:42.039
<v Speaker 3>We can do it by community.

1048
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, so we'll be able to see the average healthcore

1049
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:46.159
<v Speaker 2>in New Orleans compared to the average healthcore in Atlanta

1050
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:50.519
<v Speaker 2>to Detroit. And let's say the average healthcore in Atlanta

1051
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:53.360
<v Speaker 2>is much higher than it is in New Orleans. So

1052
00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:56.840
<v Speaker 2>then okay, let's go explore Atlanta to find out what's

1053
00:55:56.880 --> 00:56:00.000
<v Speaker 2>going on there that we can apply to the city

1054
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:04.079
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans and then give those interventions had any impact

1055
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:04.880
<v Speaker 2>when we look at.

1056
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:05.760
<v Speaker 3>The data the next month.

1057
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:09.000
<v Speaker 2>So my goal was to first communicate clearly to the

1058
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.119
<v Speaker 2>black community our current health status, and that's why we

1059
00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:13.079
<v Speaker 2>came up with the idea of a health score. But

1060
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:15.159
<v Speaker 2>then I wanted to create a system of follow up

1061
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:19.519
<v Speaker 2>whereby after people become aware, now we can track changes

1062
00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:23.519
<v Speaker 2>over time and identify when we can intervene right when

1063
00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:24.880
<v Speaker 2>people need a certain message.

1064
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:25.960
<v Speaker 4>Right.

1065
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<v Speaker 2>So where the official launch of the Bare Health app

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<v Speaker 2>this October, we're doing We're going to attempt to we

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<v Speaker 2>have two goals. The first one is to cover enough

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00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:39.760
<v Speaker 2>distance as a community on what we're calling Barrathon Day

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00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:44.199
<v Speaker 2>to reach the moon. So the theme for the Barethon

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<v Speaker 2>this year is Bare Health to the Moon, and the

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00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:48.559
<v Speaker 2>moon is about two hundred thirty nine thousand miles away,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're trying to get as many people as possible

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00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:55.119
<v Speaker 2>to come onto the platform when the official app comes

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00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:59.239
<v Speaker 2>out so that we can try and again cover this distance.

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<v Speaker 2>The ultimate goal of the Barethon is can we break

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00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:05.199
<v Speaker 2>the world record for the most people participating in a

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00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:08.280
<v Speaker 2>virtual run slash walk event across multiple venues, which is

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00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:11.719
<v Speaker 2>currently seven hundred and seventy thousand. Our goal is to

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00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:14.519
<v Speaker 2>one day get a million people on Barethon day walking

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00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:19.079
<v Speaker 2>across the world, across the dass b and so yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>To be a part of the Barethon, it's free to

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00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:23.639
<v Speaker 2>participate and it'll be free to participate on the app

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00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:27.000
<v Speaker 2>when it comes out in October. Just go to our

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00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:32.199
<v Speaker 2>instagram at bare health be ehr health and then click

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00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:33.920
<v Speaker 2>on the link tree. There's a link to the Barethon

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00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.199
<v Speaker 2>there and sign up and then when the official app

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00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:40.320
<v Speaker 2>comes out, we'll send you some text messages and emails.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on the platform and then just log a mile

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00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:46.400
<v Speaker 2>wherever you are. We're gonna have satellite stations nationwide at

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00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:48.639
<v Speaker 2>different run clubs, so if you don't want to run

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00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:50.440
<v Speaker 2>by yourself, you can go run with one of the

1092
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:54.360
<v Speaker 2>participating hubs and we'll do a specific event or we'll

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00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:58.320
<v Speaker 2>do an official event here in New Orleans in October

1094
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:02.719
<v Speaker 2>as well for the Barrathon. That's our main focus right now.

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00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Is our main campaign that we got going. We want

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00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:07.079
<v Speaker 2>every black person in the country to know their health

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00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:09.440
<v Speaker 2>score and we want we want everyone to be a

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00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:11.400
<v Speaker 2>part of the Black Electronic Health Triger so that we

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00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:14.599
<v Speaker 2>can work together to improve health in the black community

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<v Speaker 2>and then have the data to know that we actually

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<v Speaker 2>didn't awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll make sure to include the links on the Instagram.

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00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Is there a website as well as that people can

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00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:27.400
<v Speaker 1>check out or is it just through the Instagram primary

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00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:29.440
<v Speaker 1>way for them to contact or reach out?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's our primary channel, but we do

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00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:34.079
<v Speaker 2>have a website as well, Bear health dot com. You

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<v Speaker 2>can you can find a link to download the app

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00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:39.119
<v Speaker 2>there that you need to use the access code that

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<v Speaker 2>you guys that I gave you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you. We really do appreciate it. We see

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00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:45.960
<v Speaker 1>like all the stuff that's on the link tree. So

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to that as well. But Kalman, it's been

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00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:51.760
<v Speaker 1>great in like having this real conversation. We definitely gotta

1115
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.920
<v Speaker 1>have you come back to talk about this, especially saying

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<v Speaker 1>if we can help get to you know, the moon

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00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:01.960
<v Speaker 1>in October, because that's I think are opportunity for us

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<v Speaker 1>to have fitness for a reason or fitness on purpose

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to it being something that's just kind of like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I do this thing because like people told me to

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00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:12.960
<v Speaker 1>do this thing, and that's something that we definitely need

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00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:16.400
<v Speaker 1>more of in the black community. But any final thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>before we close it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just just to build on your last thought when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to like what do you need to stay

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<v Speaker 2>motivated around your health? And I think there are three components.

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<v Speaker 2>In particular. Is one, like you're saying some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>time bound goal related to some type of fitness, So

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<v Speaker 2>this is walking in this case, it could be a

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<v Speaker 2>five k. It could be like I want to bench

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00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:40.880
<v Speaker 2>this much by it's time, Like you need some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of time bound goal related to fitness. The second thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you need is a community. Again, and these aren't

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<v Speaker 2>any particular order. You need a community of people who

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<v Speaker 2>are also working toward a related goal because it's just

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<v Speaker 2>too hard to do it by yourself. Then you need well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I might have bridged two of them together.

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<v Speaker 2>You need a specific goal and it needs to be

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01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:09.679
<v Speaker 2>time bound. And with that again you focus on like

1140
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:12.679
<v Speaker 2>the experience. So instead of again like you're saying, telling

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01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:15.079
<v Speaker 2>somebody to go do something, go walk ten thousand steps

1142
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:18.119
<v Speaker 2>a day, we create an experience, a challenge where the

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<v Speaker 2>focus is the chance you have to win a certain

1144
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:24.880
<v Speaker 2>prize or the competition of the challenge. The ultimate outcome

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01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:27.280
<v Speaker 2>is ten thousand steps to day for everybody in the challenge.

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01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:29.639
<v Speaker 2>But that wasn't the focus. Same thing with like run

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01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:30.719
<v Speaker 2>club meetups and.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we could tell everybody just go run, but or

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01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:35.840
<v Speaker 2>we could say come to our roun club meet or

1151
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:39.079
<v Speaker 2>come to our meditation meet up, our yoga meetup, and

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01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:44.280
<v Speaker 2>again hitting these different factors of health that are important,

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01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:47.320
<v Speaker 2>specifically community. So that's what I would say, Fine, get

1154
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:54.719
<v Speaker 2>a goal, make a commitment, and find a community, and

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01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:56.679
<v Speaker 2>then you'll be less likely to fall off your plan.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll guarantee you.

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<v Speaker 4>Though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks so well, thank you. I think that's a

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01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:04.519
<v Speaker 1>really great thing to close out on, give us things

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01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:07.159
<v Speaker 1>to think about and definitely looking forward to, you know,

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01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:11.199
<v Speaker 1>participating with that and downloading it. You can follow us

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01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:13.400
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter at ev i d black Men, Instagram, every

1163
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Day black Men and then every Day black Man Facebook

1164
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:18.360
<v Speaker 1>page you have the Patreons, E, B, and P All

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01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:21.920
<v Speaker 1>episodes debut there first we also have exclusive episodes. Really

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01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:25.360
<v Speaker 1>appreciate your kwame for coming out to the podcast today,

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01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:29.199
<v Speaker 1>and then also appreciate everybody for rocking with us and

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01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:33.400
<v Speaker 1>ask us some awesome questions. If anyone has any questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Further for him, I'll include everything as far as his

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01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:38.480
<v Speaker 1>win tree, and then you can get to the website.

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01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:42.159
<v Speaker 1>You can get to the all those fun things. And

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<v Speaker 1>last but not least, let's let's be healthy people. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>stay healthy because I don't want us to have a

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<v Speaker 1>six to eight year difference between black life expectancy and

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<v Speaker 1>general life expectancy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me, guys, going on with

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<v Speaker 1>A bas