Speaker 1: And hello, welcome to the Big Podcast. It is Tuesday.
Today is the fourteenth day of July, year of Our
Lord twenty twenty sixth. My name is Tom Sullivan. And well,
we got a little bit of a bouncing ball going
on regarding iron. It began last night Brethident had a
bunch of the media in the Oval office and they
were asking him questions, and he brought up the idea
about the fact that we should charge a fee for
the ships going through the Strait of Ormus. The barricade
is going back into effect at four o'clock Eastern time today,
and the President wanted to get paid for it. Here's
some of the back and forth with the media last night.
Speaker 2: As President, you knowed the United States is bombing Iran again.
Speaker 3: I mean that you've been bombing around for months now.
Speaker 4: Is this just the new normal for the America?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, we're in Vietnam for nineteen years, we're
here for four months, so I think we've done a lot.
We've knocked out their navy in a period of one month.
We knocked out their air force. Air force is non existent.
We knocked out most of their missiles, most of their drones.
Speaker 4: We knocked out.
Speaker 5: They had drone manufacturing capability about ninety two percent. Their
missile capability for manufacturing, we knocked out eighty nine percent.
And they have a little capability, but they don't have
any capability for us. This is almost a military skirmish.
Speaker 1: He keeps down playing this, and you never wanted to
down You never want to underestimate the enemy's that's basic
in the art of war. And it just to skirm
me just discriber. He downplays it. And as far as
all the numbers about taking out all of the Air
Force and the Navy and all of these numbers, those
numbers are totally exaggerated. They still have plenty. There's other
reports that are valid, legitimate reports. They have many missiles,
they have many missile launchers, they have many drones. And
the proof is in the pudding. They keep attacking ships
now going through the straight of WARMUS. So he wants
to get paid for putting the blockade back up and
protecting ships, and we're not.
Speaker 4: Going to put it up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to reimburse you us because we're protecting
a very rich portion of the world. We're spending money,
and so what we've done is we are going to
be reimbursed for protection we're protecting by the countries that
we're helping. For instance, you look at the five countries.
You have Saudi Arabia, you have Uee, you have Cutter
or Qatar, as I always say, you have Qatar, Bahrain,
and by the way, you have others. You have Kuwait,
and you have others, and they will do very well,
but we think it's appropriate that we don't need them.
You know, we have more oil than any other country
in the world when you add Venezuela, which has been amazing,
when you would tess tremendous amounts.
Speaker 4: Of oil that we control.
Speaker 5: When you add Venezuela and everything else, we have more
than fifty percent of the world supply.
Speaker 4: We don't need it, but we need it.
Speaker 5: From the same point of protecting allies, et cetera, et cetera,
including Israel, including Saudi Arabia, including Qatar, including Uee, we're
protecting all of them, and we've done a very effective job.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: The idea of charging is absolutely was not going to
go anywhere. Everybody and their brother just about how to
fit when they heard last night that he wanted to
charge a fee. Is kind of a mob protection fee,
We'll protect you. So this is Marco Rubio has been
saying for weeks that a fee is absolutely wrong.
Speaker 4: Fees and tolls are the same thing. To me.
Speaker 6: Okay, if you're paying someone to go there, I don't
care if you call it a fee or a toll
or a donation. It's a toll. That's how we're going
to define it. That's international waterway. There isn't a nation
on earth that supports having to pay money to go
through the streets.
Speaker 1: Nope, there really aren't there. It's international waterways. And the President,
well he got I think quite a few reactions that
he said, you can't do that, and so today he
turned things around and has a different idea. But before
we get to that, let's check in with Bretton McGirk,
who understands that.
Speaker 4: Part of the world better than most people.
Speaker 7: Right now. I mean, as I was preparing to come
on air, he announced two ships, two civilian ships Office Coast,
have just been hit by Irani and cruise missiles. Apparently
one crew member, an Indian crew member, was killed in
that attack. So this is very much escalating thinking of
something we discussed on this program when this war started
four and a half months ago. That you know, if
you don't define your objectives very clearly going into a
military campaign, they tend to be defined for you. And
now the objective is all the Strait of Homos. That
is what this is all about. The Revolutionary Guard. I
think there are rumors there's a power struggle going on
in Tehran. I wouldn't put too much stock in that
the Revolutionary Guard is in charge. They are demonstrating they
have power capability and willingness to shut down the Strait
by shooting a civilian ships. And you add another wrinkle
now the Iran I BacT HOHU this and Yemen are
threatening to shut down the bubble men depth straight in
the Red Sea, which they had done in twenty twenty
three and twenty twenty four. So right now we're in
a state of escalation. And whether or not there can
be back channel diplomacy to get it back into some
sense of containment, we'll see. But that's where we are
right now. Yes, so we are kind of back to
where we were before the MU was even signed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are. We're back to square one. The whole
things start go. So the whole idea of wanting to
negotiate that the new regime leaders are more rational. All
that the President seems to finally get that they're no
more rational than the previous regime. Here's Kareem Sakopor.
Speaker 8: Well, there's obviously zero trust between the United States and Iran. Unfortunately,
I see these two adversaries, Trump and Tehran in a
kind of a face off of gangster diplomacy. For the
Iranian regime, the lesson they unfortunately learned from this war
is that you extract concessions not with diplomacy, but by
attacking your neighbors, by controlling the Strait of Hormuz, by
not responding to US threats, and multiple generations of US
statesmen understood that, you know, America's most important, one of
America's most important geopolitical assets is this credibility. And unfortunately,
right now, neither our adversary is like you're on nor
our allies take our words seriously.
Speaker 1: Well, that's unfortunately true that they looked at this fee
that the President wanted to charge and they thought he's
He's not serious, is he? Well, apparently a few phone
calls came in from world leaders, especially from the Middle East,
to President Trump, and today he's changed his mind. This
was from another press gathering in the Oval office earlier today.
Speaker 2: Do you have any regrets about lifting the naval blockade
or giving the sanctions waivers?
Speaker 5: I gave them a chance. I wanted to give them
a chance at making a deal. You know, we had
a deal two days ago. It was done, and then
all of a sudden, they couldn't do it. They didn't
like something about the deal. They couldn't do it, and
they shot at first. And that was a big mistake
that they shot first, because we have been knocking the
hell out of them. I was called by different people, countries,
kings and emirs, and they said, we'd love to do
it a different way. We'd love to invest in the
United States with billions and billions of dollars. We would
like to invest tremendously in the United States as opposed
to charging the fate. And I like that actually, because
I don't think anybody should be able to charge a
fee for the uh for the straight.
Speaker 1: No, you heard that right, he said all of a sudden,
Today he says, I don't think anybody should be able
to charge a fee for the straight Yet that's what
he proposed last night. So we're bouncing around a lot,
and he's very transactional. I don't think sometimes I really
do wonder if he's taking this war seriously. He calls
it a skirmish, but he talks about he gets all
excited about billions and billions being invested in the United States.
That's what some of the world leaders told him. According
to him, what does General Jack Keene thinks.
Speaker 9: Out surprising comment. I mean, the President has given these
people enormous amount of leeway here to come forward and
really make a deal. And he actually signed a document,
you know, on the seventeenth, not too long ago, that
was supposed to provide testimony to a deal that they
had achieved.
Speaker 4: And the Iranians, you.
Speaker 9: Know, kind of blew a hole in all of that,
because a couple of days later they went out and
violated the only agreement that was in the deal, their
memorandum of understanding, was an agreement to open up the
straits of Removes. We would remove the blockade and ron
we removed their control and interference. That was the only
thing that was really a deal. The rest of it
was all a promise to solve the greater problems over
a sixty day or possibly even a longer period, and
within a couple of days we saw their violation. I
think the President just threw up his arms and he's
fed up with it. He's fed up with the lion.
He fed up with, you know, being played by these people.
I mean they look our bane, sophisticated, kind of dressed
like us. They seen to be reasonable, They seem to
appear that they truly want to do something here and
it's meaningful for their own people. But I think their
actions reflect the forty seven year history.
Speaker 4: That's the facts of it.
Speaker 9: Regardless of who's in charge right now, they are committing
to the same ideology that their predecesors have done. And
that's where the President is and that is why we're
watching right now. The Battle of the Straits of the
move's unfold before our eyes, and it's got two major
focuses to it. One is to take out all the
things in the coastal area that permit them to interfere
with shipping. So obviously that's drones, it's missiles, it's fast boats,
it's their radars and sensors, it's their command and control
and whatever logistic infrastructure keeps that going. You saw them
just take down a plant recently within the last several hours,
and that's an indicator that that plant obviously keeps a
lot of that equipment sustained. The second focus area, and
this is crucial, is what is Oroan doing about are
attacking them? Well, one they're trying to continue to interfere,
but two they're attacking our allies and partners in the
region and US BASS and how are they doing that
ballistic missiles and drones. So the second focus area is
to take down as much of that retaliation as we
possibly can. So we're going after the launch systems for
the ballistic missiles, the missiles themselves, and their transporters. We're
likely rubbling the entrances to the tunnels where they keep these,
which we have done before they excavated and took some out,
and that keeps and contains those missiles in there. They
can't get it out without a major engineering operation. And
obviously we can interfere with that same thing with drone
storage areas. So those are the two focus points. It's
going to take some time. This is a condition based operation.
Cooper has been given Admiral Cooper Way to conduct this
operation and he'll know when he has satisfied the objectives
in terms of reducing their capability to interfere and significantly
reducing capability to retaliate. Probably about a week, but I
don't know for sure because it's a condition based operation. Obviously,
he'll report the Secretary of War and to the President
on how he's doing.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: You heard the General say that they've been playing the president,
and I've been talking about that. I don't mean to
put down the president, but they have been playing him.
They keep saying, sure, we'll do everything you say. And
then that's General Keen is repeated. And everybody that knows
anything about the people in Iran, they are liars, cheaters,
They will do anything. They hate America and everybody associated
with America. So we have we have a couple of
things going. We've got the straight of Horror moves to
blockade that again and then settle that try and keep
the ships from Iranian ships from coming or going. And
then we also have are we going to go back
and complete the original military mission that was stopped prematurely.
Speaker 4: Well, we're talking two different things here.
Speaker 9: This is a battle for the straits of the moves
and the limitations of what that is we had two
weeks to complete Epic Fury, and that deals with the
whole comprehensive targets that we were dealing with, leadership targets, IRGC, organizations,
industrial based manufacturing capability, and the list goes on.
Speaker 4: We're not dealing with all of that here.
Speaker 9: We're dealing with a limited operation with the two focus
points that I just provided you. That is another decision
the President will make. He has the option to go
back to major combat operations to complete the comprehensive target list,
and we estimated at the time it was about twenty
five percent of the targets left.
Speaker 4: That would take maybe ten to two weeks.
Speaker 9: Now, obviously some of those targets are being reduced here
as a result of the focus on the straits of
a moves, to be sure, but there's a lot of
other targets out there.
Speaker 4: That are not involved in this battle that we're fighting.
Speaker 1: So again it appears we are back to square one.
John Bolton, who was President Trump's national security advisor in
Trump one point zero, then they had a big fallout.
Bolton can be very critical of Donald Trump, but here
it sounds like he kind of gets what President Trump
is up to well.
Speaker 10: I think it's typical of Trump. Everything's the deal, you know,
I'm going to do this. I'm going to get my
share of the action here. I'm going to get my
twenty percent. I don't think it's unreasonable at some point
to ask countries that benefit from our reopening the strait,
the Gulf Arab countries, maybe some of their consumers. We
did that back in the very first Golf War in
George H. W. Bush's administration, because we're having to act
to keep the straight open because of Iran. But charging
a twenty percent is ridiculous. I'll do a little mass
for the president. If oil is at seventy five dollars
a barrel, that maybe below where it is now, a
twenty percent total would be another fifteen dollars. So if
Trump wants to keep the price of gasoline at the
pump down in the United States, he really doesn't want
to sell. He doesn't want oil to be at ninety
dollars a barrel. It's just this is the way he thinks.
I'm going to do something, somebody's going to pay me
for it. This is not strategic thinking, to say the least.
Speaker 1: Oh, he hasn't done any strategic thinking on this. I
mean that John Bolton laid it out. The President obviously
wasn't thinking about let's see if I charged twenty percent,
that means oil prices are going to go up twenty percent. No,
that never, that never crossed his mind. Speaking of oil,
average price of well gasoline, what you buy now up
to three dollars eighty six cents. That is up seven
cents in a week. Diesel four dollars eighty eight cents.
That's up a penny in a while week. California and
Hawaii both over five dollars. They're they're the two highest
places in the country. So we've got that. By the way,
speaking of the president to Thursday night, the President will
address the nation at eight o'clock. He's asked the networks
for broadcast time. We'll see if they give it. But
he's planning on addressing the nation at eight o'clock on
Thursday night. And the topic, No, I don't think it's
about a run. We're told that it will be about
foreign interference in the twenty twenty election. He is obsessed
with that. He's not gonna let go of it. I'm thinking, well, yes,
foreigners interfere in our election. Every time. That's what they've
been doing long before the Internet came along. They've been Russia,
Soviet Union, China, Iran have been interfering, trying to interfere
in our elections since day one, which is why so
important to keep it not a federal election, but fifty
states have elections, and so in any case, that's going
to be Thursday night, eight o'clock something about foreign interference
in the twenty twenty election. Moving on to other topics,
there's more controversy regarding ice. There have been two shootings
and deaths of people by ice in the last week,
one in Houston and the other one in a small
town in Maine. The question has been about why are
they well, they happened in vehicle stops, they were trying
to make a vehicle stop, and they're carrying out their
operations across the country. Apparently, Mark Wayne Mullen, the new
head of DHS, has put out the order no more
vehicle stops. You're going to go find illegals. You're going
to find them not in their cars. You're going to
find them at their place of work or at their
home or wherever it might be. Well, we're not going
to be doing these vehicle stops. And I must tell you,
with both of these latest incidents happening after agents tried
to stop the vehicles, one of them that was killed
wasn't even targeted. Angus King, who is one of the senators.
He's classifies himself as independent, but he he works with
the Democrats, had this. He obviously is getting a lot
of pressure from the people in Maine. But this is
his reaction.
Speaker 3: Because here's a really simple idea. Apply to ICE the
same standards that are applied to police forces all over
the country, whether it's Miami or New York, or San
Diego or Denver. Make them follow the same protocols. Number one,
let's get these body cameras on. It's ridiculous with all
the money they have. They have all the money in
the world under the appropriations that they've had. By the way,
my Republican colleagues have now funded ICE to the end
of Donald Trump's term. They've literally given up the power
of the purse over ICE, and so things like body cameras, identifications,
no masks, those are simple things that apply everywhere else
in the country to police forces. That's number one. Number Two,
let's be sure that an investigation of this is real
and that it's credible, and that involves not just the
federal authorities. And that's why I'm glad so far our
state attorney General, our state police have been engaged in
this investigation, and that's what we have to continue. But
the bigger point is why were they there in the
first place. They arrested We had a big surge in Maine.
It didn't get the publicity that Minnesota, but we had
a big surge in Maine in the winter. They arrested
over two hundred people. Nineteen of them had criminal records.
So this whole idea of this is the worst of
the worst and they're going after the criminals and getting
criminals off our streets. That's a phony, that's a fraud.
And what's really going on is these folks have been
given a quota by the White House, which is the
worst thing you could do with law enforcement to arrest.
It was thirty five hundred a day. Now I hear
it's two thousand a day. But when you do that,
give that kind of quota to law enforcement, you're almost
certain to get bad results. So they shouldn't have even
been Biteford in the first place. Bidiford is a wonderful town.
It's up and coming. It's a very dynamic town with
interestingly a lot of immigrant roots going back one hundred years.
So they shouldn't have been there at all. And there
appears to be very little, if any justification for this.
I'm going to wait for the facts, but thus far,
it stinks.
Speaker 1: It does stink, and I think he said a couple
of things that I thought were noteworthy. One is ICE
should be on the same level of or better than
local police departments. I don't think they are. And I'll
tell you why I don't think they're training is literally
in weeks where police officers that worked for cities, counties
state their training is months, like more than a half
a year in most cases most big departments. So their
training seems to seem from afar to be lacking. And
Mark Wayne Mullen, the new head of DHS who's in
charge of all of this. Angus King went on to
talk about the fact that he and Mark Wayne Bullen
served in the Senate together, and Mark Wayne Mullen told
him it looks like, uh, you know, I'll look into
this for you, and he says, to his credit, he
called me back and said the person who was shot
in Maine wasn't even the person that they were looking for.
They made a huge mistake. So he's all happy with
Mark Wayne Mullen really being straightforward, up front kind of guy,
but that seems to be who he is. But when
it comes to training, it appears that though from watching
some of the video and I know it's all one sided,
that ice officers are sorely lacking in basic police tactics
and techniques and the beautiful part of what Angus King
said at the very end, he said it stinks, but
he said he's going to wait for the facts. I
think we all should. But in the meantime, their training
is just a fraction of what most police officers have
to learn in order to be a police. You can't
just pin a badge on somebody and put a gun
on their hip and send him out. There's much much
more that police need to know. To day at the
Capitol in d C. Two Supreme Court justices testified today.
Elaina Kagan and Amy Cony Barrett both testified before the
Budget Committee there. What they were there for was to
talk about the budget for the Supreme Court, and they
want the money bumped up for security because they are
getting more threats than they ever had before. And so
you add a so called liberal and so called conservative
justice asking Congress for more money. They made a big
hooplaw the media did about the fact that they were
Supreme Court justices testifying before Congress. Oh my gosh, that's
a separation of branch issue, isn't it.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: Up until about five or six years ago, Supreme Court
justices regularly testified before various committees. They're acting like it
it's some rare occasion because they haven't testified since twenty nineteen.
Part of it was because of COVID and everything else.
But anyway, they're looking for more money because of all
the threats. A couple of people weigh in on this.
Let's start with Jonathan Turley.
Speaker 11: This is coming from a real movement to demonize the justices,
demonize the court. They went to Justice Barrett's house knowing
she has young children, and left bloody dolls all over
her lawn. You had an individual standing outside of Kavanaugh's
house on an assassination attempt that he backed out of
at the last minute. These are people who are being
triggered by this rhetoric and it's all unconnected to the
institution itself.
Speaker 1: Byron yorick Over at The Washington Examiner saw it this way, Well, I.
Speaker 12: Think what it means is there's a lot of pent
up demand on Capitol Hill for asking justice's questions.
Speaker 4: So you have Justices.
Speaker 12: Lanna Kagan and Amy Coney Barrett coming to testify ostensibly
about budget issues and security at the Supreme Court, which
are real, legitimate issues that Congress needs to look into.
But then you have you're a member of the House
Appropriations Committee, you've never had a chance to ask a
Supreme Court justice a question, you're outraged by the Dobbs
decision or something else, you're going to ask about it.
So I would not be surprised to see some members
of Congress use their opportunity to go far afield from
the subject of the hearing.
Speaker 1: Well, the parts I saw was they basically kept it
within the guardrails of the budget and the Supreme Court.
Carrie Severino was a law clerk for Justice Clarence Thomas
years ago. This is her view of what happened today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Byron's right that we're going to see
some people trying to use this as a platform to
cut clips for the next campaign videos and try to
grill the justices really things they aren't allowed to talk
about there. They can't ask them about what they're going
to rule on cases or things like that the justices
simply won't respond to. So I think this might be
part of the reason we don't see justices putting themselves
in this position regularly. But the security concerns are so
serious now that I think that's what's causing them to
come to the Court. Is we're seeing the Congress as
we're seeing right now, because we've seen their inc asking
for a ten percent increase in their security budget, but
that's in the wake of a fifty seven percent increase
in threats. Of course since Dobbs that's come through the
roof with not only an assassination attempt, but many other
threats against justices like we saw with Justice Amy Cony
Barrett recently.
Speaker 1: So basically it went smoothly today and the Budget Committee
will determine how much money they want to give to
the Supreme Court for more security bars the economy goes today.
We got our CPI number out this morning, the consumer
price index, the inflation number, and it was not it
wasn't a surprise to me, but it was a very
good report. Inflation dropped from four point two in May
to three point five in June. Three and a half
percent inflation rate. Now remember the Fed ones to get
that down to two, so it's got long ways to go.
The core rate when you take out food and energy
and you look at everything else at the store two
point six, still above the target, but it was still
not bad. But the reason why it wasn't surprised was
is there anybody on the planet that doesn't know that
gas and oil prices took some pretty nice declines during
the month of June. Well, we got into the phony
ceasefire and talks between Iran and it's so it but
a that didn't last, and B we know prices of
gas and oil are down, but they are still like
I told you, they're still up from where they were
back on February twenty eighth. But's actually the inflation rate
now is equal to January twenty twenty one. Tomorrow and Thursday,
Kevin Walsh, the new Chairman of the Federal Reserve, will
be giving what's called the Humphrey Hawkins Testimony. Every six months.
The Chairman of the Federal Reserve must report to Congress,
and the silly business behind it is he can't come
over once. He's got to come over and report to
the House, and then he's got to go report to
the Senate, and they take turns on who goes first
every six months. So tomorrow Kevin Walsh will be talking
before the House and Senate tomorrow and Thursday. He has
been already putting together some commentary about inflation has been
a burden on people and on businesses, and that the
Fed will not tolerate elevated inflation. So this sounds to me,
even though President Trump wanted somebody to be the Fed
chairman who would lower interest rates, this is a pretty
loud signal that Kevin Warrish is going to try and
talk the rest of the Federal Open Market Committee into
maybe raising interest rates. In fact, there was a decent
chance that they were going to raise interest rates in September,
according to the futures markets. But after this inflation rate
being much tamer than expected, now the estimate that they're
going to raise interest rates has dropped significantly. But I
still look at this and go this is so temporary.
This was the month of June. This was because of
the ceasefire agreement. People were I don't know why, but
they were hopeful. And now that we're back at kinetic
action and blocking the strait of hor moves, all of
this is going to go the other way. In fact,
oil prices did climb over it. It was down to
almost seventy dollars.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 1: I saw an eight in front of the prices as
they were treading day. I'll give you the closing numbers
here in a minute, but we were in the eighties,
low eighties. But oil and gas are going back up again,
and that means inflation numbers for the month of July
when we get them after the end of this month,
will most likely be higher, and everybody will act shocked.
And I'm going no, it's pretty obvious, I think to
most people. Isn't it all right? You're ready for a
little not humor, No, of course not. Tom Kamala Harris
is back speaking to people. I don't know why she
does this. She's most people are not good speakers, and
she happens to be, in my humble estimation, not a
good speaker. But she was giving a motivational speech to
the w NBA team in Los Angeles, and I've thought
it's been a while since we've had a good word salad.
Speaker 13: Here she is and you are having an incritical impact.
I travel our country, young girls, boys, people of every gender, background, race.
Watch the w yeah, and understand how inspiring it is.
So keep doing what you're doing. You guys are impacting
people who you may never meet, people who may never
know your names online, but they are aware of what
you are doing, and it is giving them a sense
of their value and their dignity and what they have
her right to expect from this world. So congratulations on
this game, but congratulations as much as anything else for
the path that you guys are charging. It is extraordinary.
Watch that's it.
Speaker 4: I just.
Speaker 13: Together on three one two three.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know why I played that. I'm not
sure what she said. I don't understand what she said
and she I don't know if she's talking in code
of some kind. Here's another recent one. This is from
a couple of weeks ago. I don't know who this
was too, but you got to listen to it.
Speaker 14: We each have light inside of us, and we need
to know that that is what inspires our hope as
much as anything external to ourselves, and when we feel
that and not allow an election or an individual to
dampen that light and instead light let that light kind
of carry some particular for moments of darkness, that we
not only act on that hope, but we inspire that
hope in each other. It is so important that we
not only have hope, but that we understand that that
should be a verb, which means that hope has to
go hand in hand with action.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I don't just I know I'm being very
biased here. I'm not a fan if she runs. The
last time she ran for president, while she took over
in the middle of Joe dropping out, go back to
when she originally ran in two thousand and twenty, and
she did not last but just a few months. I
think that she's kind of going down that same path here,
all right, Well, I don't know, No, I don't. I'm sorry,
I don't have a translation. Wall Street today told you
we had a roller coaster about deciding what to do
about the straight up horor moved. Well, we've got a
roller coaster on Wall Street, marching right along with the
changing word coming out of the White House. The market
started off positive this morning. It was up nicely. Then
things changed down at wind stayed down until about the
last forty five minutes of treading came back to eke
out a little gain. The DOW up nine to fifty
two thousand and five oh eight. The NASDAK sorry SMP
also up a little, up twenty eight. NASDAK did better,
up two hundred and thirty three. Gold again bouncing back
and forth, up fifty six dollars to four thousand and
sixty one, and oil keeps climbing up almost two dollars
eighty dollars eighty dollars now for one barrel of West
Texas Intermediate. So that's it for today. Thank you for
coming by. We will be back again tomorrow. I hope
to see you then