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Speaker 1: Well, it's my great pleasure to be join on the

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podcast once again by Keishawn Davis. You are going to

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be challenging for a lightweight world title coming up. First

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of all, thank you very much for being on the show.

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I must be good luck because you scored a quick

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knockout the last time we talked before your last fight.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's see it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, just so we'll tell the people you

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are getting ready to challenge Denny's Barentchiks for the WBO

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lightweight world title. It will take place on February fourteenth.

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It is the main event of the Top Rank ESPN

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card that will take place at the Theater at Madison

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Square Garden in New York. Before we get into that, Kisha,

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I want to talk a little bit about the last

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fight because there was some drama and it was certainly

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an interesting situation the whole thing. So that was on

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November eighth, you were headlining your first professional fight in

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your hometown of Norfolk, Virginia. You scored, as I mentioned,

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a quick second round knockout against Gustavo Lemos. Before the fight,

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when we had done the interview for the podcast, you

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talked about it being your dream that you and your

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brothers had talked about to fight at home and to

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make a big event about it. And now that you

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had that happened, I wondered, did the did the did

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the reality live up to the dream that you and

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your brother has talked about for so many years?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, No, it's surpassed it really. Hell yeah, Like we

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always kept saying it's gonna be big, like it's gonna

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be big, it's gonna sell out. But what happened that

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weekend was huge, Like people was raving about this fight

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all the way into the following weekend. You know, we

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getting bookings now, people paying us to do walk dudes

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and all that type of shit. Man, we wet them

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made so we made a lot of money outside the

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ring house. I'll tell you that now, you know what

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I'm saying. So it definitely surpassed our expectations. And you know,

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all glory to God. Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was, like you said, it was a

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tremendous event. There was a huge crowd there. So that

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makes me curious about your response to this. When you

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were getting ready for the fight, obviously you know you're pro.

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You weighed in, you made your weight. It was one

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hundred and thirty five pound fight and Limos he comes

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in on the day before, he's one hundred and forty

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one and a half pounds. He's six and a half

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pounds over. He didn't miss by half a pound we've

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seen or a pound like that's a dramatic amount of way.

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He's technically now two weight classes above as a welterweight

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because he's over one forty. That puts everybody, you, your team,

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top ranked television, everybody in a tough spot. But it

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was your night, You're the start of the show. How

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how close was it to even that you might not fight?

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Like what was going through your mind when he was

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so heavy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking that he probably might not fight

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because we was hoping that he didn't come the next

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day too much overweight. And that's what me and my

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team was doing. Was fermore that we agreed to await

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for the next day that he can't go over this.

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And I was like, Okay, even if he a pound

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over that I'm gonna steal. I'm gonna still fight, you know.

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So I was trying to do everything I can to

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make a fight happen. Like we was like, I forgot

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what weight it was the next day, but it was like,

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he can't go over one forty six. And I was like, man, man,

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even if he like one forty seven, I'm gonna still

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fight him at the end of the day. Like what's

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one pound gonna do? You know what I'm saying. So

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I was really doing everything in my power to make

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a fight happen still, but we just couldn't. We just

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couldn't give him too much leaning And see you know

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what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Was there any concern though when you saw him way

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I mean that much overweight. I've seen fights cancel for

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way less weight than that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Nah. Also, real shit, this is exactly what happened

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before the weiyns yep, before the weigh inns. We had

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the trial scale. It was all backstage and I stepped

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on the scale and I was good. Yeah. So then

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I turned around Limbos right there. I'm like, oh shit,

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well bet I'm not see how much seeweight. So he

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stepped in that scale. I see my teaweight. I was like,

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this is exactly what happens. It's true story. I said,

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oh shit, let's go twenty percent. Let's do it. It's

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twenty percent. I don't give it down percent d D

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d DA. But they but politically they was like man

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keishaw on the commission side, like he's so much overweight,

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we gotta do this, we gotta do that fight all

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that type of shit. So it was just more than

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just a twenty percent that I was just preaching about.

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But once I see that he was that much overweight,

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it was like, oh my god, I's just like twenty percent,

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let's do it. I don't give it.

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Speaker 1: Like when you say twenty percent, you're talking about some

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extra money that would be coming your way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, because I was.

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Speaker 1: Saying sometimes commissions if it's the spreads to why they

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don't allow. But anyway, all right, the fight ended up happening.

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Uh fortunately for everybody. It turned out to be a

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great knight. But you went out there and just destroyed

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him in two rounds. A lot of people are like, well,

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he may be too big this and that was it

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as easy as it looked because you just went through

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him like a knife through hot butter.

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Speaker 2: Seemed like to me, Yeah, honestly, it was easy as

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it looked. Honestly, like the first round, like I didn't

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do nothing with him but jab him moving around, starting

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him out type shit. See what he got. Everybody came

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talking about his power, So I just want to see

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what his power was talking about. You know, after that

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first round, you know, you come, You're gonna come to

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your heart as your first round because that's what you got,

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your most energy. So I'm like, okay, well that's all

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he got. Well I'm gonna start letting my shit go.

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My first parts that I really been with and knocked

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him down. So it was like, well, okay, like it's

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trying to give him up.

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Speaker 1: Out of year, and you sure did that. And so

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now that leads you to this particular fight, which obviously

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is for a world championship against Brentchick. Now, before uh,

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this fight was official back again, this was the interview

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that we did prior to you taking on Limos, Uh,

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I mean yeah, against Gustabo Lemos, you were talking to

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me about how you were hoping that a win would

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lead you to this fight with Brentchick, that you and

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he had had some exchanges on you know, your social

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media direct messages that you thought this would be the

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next fight. But I wonder if you could talk to

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me about how how did you actually find out that

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you officially had this chance to fight for the world title.

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And what was your reaction when you found out that

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it was real and it was happening.

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Speaker 2: It was real, I can say, like fight wee go Gustavo.

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They just kept saying, you know it's next, right, I'm like, uh,

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now it's next. He was like, you get a job

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done right here? You go off with who was telling

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you this? Tot right, okay, Tod Rank for sure was

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telling me that things like you gotta get a job

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done first though, and when he kept saying that, it

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was kind of making me nervous and shit, like, oh,

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I'm gonna get a job then, why you gotta keep

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telling me that you know what I'm saying. But other

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than that, like I knew like fight leek of Gustavo and.

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Speaker 1: Shoot now we hear now, I'm sure like you dreamed

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about fighting at home, Any young fighter is gonna dream

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about fighting for a world title. So can you just

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sort of give me now that it's you know, we're

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a little way away from the fight, but you know

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it's coming quickly and you're gonna be in there fighting

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for this championship. Just give me your thoughts about your

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your level of anticipation, anxiety, excitement, nervousness, whatever. It is,

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just your emotions about what will be, you know, the

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most significant fight of your career by far, and something

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that when your career is over with, will be something

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that will be a landmark, benchmark kind of fight in

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your career.

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Speaker 2: Right, my first one. Right, Excuse me, honestly, bro, if

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you want my mind as a chan I don't have

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no as of right now, I don't have no nervousness,

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no anticipation, no anxiety or not. And that like, I'm

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just in training camp, training for another fight, honestly, And

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I'm not really the type person that get into all

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the enthusiastics. I understand I'm saying, oh I'm at the

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MNG or oh it's for my first word title. I'm

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just taking it like this is another goddamn fight for

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me because I know at the end of the day,

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I got I got a ten year, ten more years

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ahead of me. I'm twenty five, I can retire when

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I'm thirty five, you know what I'm saying. So it's

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gonna be bigger fights than this. So starting now, I

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just got to make sure I stay level with hit

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and stay calm because he's just gonna do nothing but

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get bigger and bigger after this.

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Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned about you know your age and potentially

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retiring at thirty five. He's already thirty six. He's eleven

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years older than you, and I mean in boxing, that

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would seem to be most people, a very significant advantage,

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even though he's preserved. He's only got nineteen fights professionally,

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you've only got twelve fights. There's not that big of

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a difference. He had a long amateur curd twenty twelve

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Olympics silver medal winner, yourself, twenty twenty Olympic silver medal winner.

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What sort of like your scatting report on him, because

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he's had a career that was sort of like under

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the radar before he even won this title.

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Speaker 2: Oh my scattering report. Honestly, I know that he got

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a lot of experience, Like at the end of the day,

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he been through the same trials and tribulations and the

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amateurs that I've been through. And now that he pro

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and he became a world champion, like he he did

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it all. You know what I'm saying. Don't say he

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was the Olympics. Now you're a world champion. He better

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defend it like he he actually did great for himself

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as a as a as a fighter. At the end

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of the day, you know what I'm saying, he's undefeated,

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he never lost, like all credit to Baaranshape, Bro, Like, shit,

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you you did it. You you made it, my nigga.

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You know what I'm saying. Unfortunately that you gotta fight

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somebody like me that's gonna just gonna take it from

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you as soon as you get it. But like scouting report, like,

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as a guy like him, you can't take him lightly, bro,

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because he done seen it all, and he done it all,

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and he's he's a veteran at this shit. You know

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what I'm saying. So I like, for my first world

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trying to fight stylistically, man, this is it can't really

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get no better than this. Honestly, he's an undefeated fighter,

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he's an Olympian, and he's a champion. You know what

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I'm saying, And everything that he did I'm trying to

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do right now, you know what I'm saying. And stylistically,

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I feel like shit, this performance definitely can out match

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his last one.

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Speaker 1: You just mentioned he's undefeated. I was actually looking over

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your record before we got on to do this interview,

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and this will in fact be the first fighter that

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you faced. It is undefeated. Does that Does that add

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a little more spice to it to take a guy's

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undefeated record who doesn't know how to lose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly it does. I'm not gonna lie and honestly

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does man, don't you might want to lose a oh

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at the end of the day on top of their belt.

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So I know he not going in there. It's just

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gonna lay down, Like I know, he's not going there

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just for a check like real shit. He's really gonna

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give it his all. And if he loses, he loses.

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If he wins, he wins, which is not but he's

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definitely not going in and lay down. He's gonna give

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it his all, and I think he's checkingly gonna make

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it a great fight, honestly.

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Speaker 1: So when you look at his record, his biggest win,

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of course, was when he won this title, which he did.

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It was a tough fight, a split decision against Emanuel

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never at Te. This was back last May, soil have

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been off about nine months. Never at It was the

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champion at one hundred and thirty was moving up. The

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challenge for this title. What were your thoughts if you

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saw that fight about the performance that he turned in

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to win the title.

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch the fight live, but when I heard

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that he won, I was definitely surprised, because I mean

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I just didn't think navarat was gonna lose, just just

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off the strip. I just didn't think he was gonna lose.

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But the two fights Navaratai had at one thirty five,

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he didn't look good, you know what I'm saying, Like

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that's just not the notice weight class. You know, he's

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a true one thirty pounder, and he looks best at

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one thirty. You know, So at the end of the day,

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Baranchi beat a one thirty pounder at the end of

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the day. And you know, I went back and watched

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his fight with Yigit and stuff like that, and you

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know when I thought Yigit, like from round one to

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round nine when I stopped him, Bro, it was a

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straight completely domination, you know, between him and Yeggy. It

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was round it was going back and forth, like back

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and forth. Like the fight was fairly close. Even though

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he won the fight, he probably wanted to fight probably

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like two three rounds, you know, Like I stopped yigg

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you know what I'm saying. So just stylistically and like physicality. Stylistically,

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he never seen a style like me before, and physicality, Bro,

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I don't think he even forced somebody as strong as

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me before. Neither Bro. Honestly in terms of him me

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seeing him. You know, I've been overseas before, so you know,

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I fought people that like to dance in prance around. Shit,

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any cruise was dancing and princing around when I was

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fighting him and stuff like that, and similar to what

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Baranchik is gonna do, you know. But he's thirty six

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years old, so he's not gonna He's not gonna be

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as you know fresh think. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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So I know he's gonna give it this all at

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the end of the day. But his best is I

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don't think I know this not can't compete with me.

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Speaker 1: Now, you mentioned earlier we talked about you like living

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the dream having your first fight at home, you know,

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the thing that you and your brothers have talked about.

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But now for this fight, fighting for your first world title,

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it's taking place at Madison Square, Guarden. I know you

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mentioned that a quick minute ago. That's like one of

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the most hollow venues in boxing history. The theater at

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the Madison Square Guarden has hosted numerous you know, super

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star fighters and you know, big world championship fights and

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just great fights for years. It's a very traditional place

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for these types of fights. That and it's you're a

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headliner in New York City. You know, what are your

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thoughts about that? Because you know, not everybody gets to

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headline a boxing event in the Big Apple.

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Speaker 2: That is crazy, bro. Like my my cousins, I got people,

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I got a lot of family out there in New York.

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And one of my cousins went to the Knicks game

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and she was just happened to be in the city

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and she seen my billboard out there and that's my

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blood cousin. Like we're a close family, you know what

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I'm saying. So she's like, oh my god, lott Cuzed

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Like this is a little cuz, Like you know what

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I'm saying, Like I was eight nine years old, cities old,

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staying at her house and stuff like that. She see

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me now she's seen me on the freaking big streen

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a MSG, So like it's definitely big man. It's definitely

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huge for me. But again, I'm not a person that

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just get into all the extra shit. Bro, this is

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just another fight for me. I'm gonna go there and

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do my thing.

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Speaker 1: You can think about it afterwards. I guess I'm kind

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of relish and what you did, I suppose. But if

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you win the title, which you know a lot of

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people are gonna favor you to be the guy that

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goes in there and gets the job done. I wonder

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what kind of other goals you said. You're only twenty

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five year a young fighter, it'll be your first world title.

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What other goals would you have? Is it a long

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run at lightweight? Is that some guys they win the title,

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maybe defend it once or twice and make the quick

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move up to another division, trying to go up to

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scale as much as they can. What is in your

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mind as far as the way you want to map

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things out.

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Speaker 2: I'm stick to the same thing I've been saying. Man,

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once I get this world title, I'm gonna just try

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to get all the top the top names in the

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ring with me. You know, at the end of the day,

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who don't want to become a world champion? You know?

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So when I get my world title, you know, I'm

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gonna just be throwing a delt in people's face, like, Yo,

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you want to fight me, You want to fight me

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like all the top names though not know people that

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dot you might know a belt. That's my goal, you

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know what I'm saying. Of course, you can't make nobody

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fight you. You know what I'm saying. But that's what

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i want to do. Equal my first defense. In the

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rest of my career, I want to fight those names.

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I'm gonna fight those real names.

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Speaker 1: Well, it seems to me that you know again, I know,

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you got to fight the fight to win the title,

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but in terms of the future fights with you know,

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everybody wants to unify in this way class, it seems

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like unifications might be difficult. Shakor is your buddy. He's

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got a title, he's off doing this thing in Saudi Arabia.

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He's got activity scheduled fight coming up. Maybe he's a

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paida mandatory. You've got Tank Davis who has not shown

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a real willingness to fight the absolute best of his

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own weight class. Lomachenko is you know, we don't know

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if he's gonna retire.

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Speaker 2: He's with Todd, you know, dang like you're saying that.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I just keep it real, keys, that's the way

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it is. You both And but anyway, with Lomachenko, his

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he's up in the air, he's got the back injury.

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Nobody knows if he's gonna come back again. So what

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do you think of like your big fight, so to speak,

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beyond winning the world title.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I win the world title, man, it's a

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lot of fights out there, like at one thirty five

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that that got names. You know what I'm saying, Like, well,

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of course, I'm becoming my own star myself, so I

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can't really be like I'm gonna get some my ina

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that max to star power is me or maybe even

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come close. But it's gonna be people that that y'all

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well aware of, and that's gonna be able to create

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great fights. Y'all gotta you gotta remember that I'm the

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one that picked Gustavo for this last fight. Like, I'm

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a fighter, I know this, I know the landscape. I

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understand what I'm saying. I know how to create a

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great fight. You know what I'm saying, Like, I just

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know you know what I'm saying, So I can't really

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tell you like the exact person I want to go

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after this fight because that's not gonna be It's not

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gonna be true, you know what I'm saying. But just

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know that when I get this power, the power of

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the belt into my hands, Keshon the Businessman is gonna

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be It's gonna be putting on on great fights. And

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I also feel like this fight right here stylistically, it's

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a great fight. I agree, twelve oh, nineteen and oh

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two Olympians clashing like I mean shit, I feel like

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it can't really get no better than it is for

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a guy that's fight for his first world title fight

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at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying.

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So I just gave y'all a great fight with mcgham Duaino,

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that Mexican kid. I gave y'all a great fight with Gustavo.

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Now I might give you a great fight for my

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first world title fight. So I feel like I'm just

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living up to every thing that I'm preaching.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can say Gustava was a

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great fight. I think it was a great one sided

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ask kicking is what it was. Let me just want

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great Yeah, that's true. It's a good event. I'll wrap

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up with this. Uh, you know, I know that. I'm

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sure you've pictured how the fight's in it go. I

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know you have every intention of winning the fights. I'm

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not gonna ask you how you you know, think you're

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gonna win. But if you could pick, like the best

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scenario by which to get the victory, how would how

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would you want that to turn out? Just a domination,

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a quick knockout, beat him down for a little while, Like,

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what's your what's the ideal scenario to realize your dream

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of becoming a world champion.

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Speaker 2: I want to knock his ass out in the first row, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, make it a quick night, right, No, don't get

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paid over time.

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Speaker 2: Took it easy, man, No, not being a sore my hands,

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or just give me a first round knockout. I guess

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we'll have to wait and see.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll know the answer on February fourteen. Kishan, thank

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you so much for your time. I wish your best

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luck in the fight my friends.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you, dam