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Speaker 1: Well, Sen, you hear him on some of our radio

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shows here on Sports Talk Savonnie. We appreciate him taking

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a couple of minutes on very short notice to join

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us here. Aaron joining us from West Virginia where today

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he happened to see a Texan safety go down and

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Ross put him on the line for me there, Aeron

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first fall, thank you for joining us. Take us back

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to what exactly happened as you saw it yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very unfortunate situation for CJ. Gardner Johnson and the

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Texans defense from Matt what happened. He was covering wide

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receiver John Metschi the third and he went down immediately

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grabs his right knee area and he pounds the ground

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in frustration and obvious pain. And then it was a

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real somber scene as got very quiet on the field

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and guys took a knee out of respect for you

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got They called cddus that they've come to like in

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a very short time. He's become a very popular member

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of the team and obviously a big play guy that

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likes to talk, likes to have one out there, and

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very feisty competitor. And then he's carted off the field,

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the guys came over to wish him well. He went

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inside the Green Writers Sports Performance Center and shortly a

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little bit shortly ago, we talked to Demiko Ryans, who

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called it heartbreaking to see him go down like that,

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and did not have a specific update. Obviously there's going

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to be an MRI and X rays and all that,

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and that'll happen today, but doesn't look like they're gonna be,

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you know, some sort of good news situation out of this.

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People are bracing for the worst, which would be a

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season ending injury for CJ. Gardner Johnson. We don't have

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a lot of specifics yet, but it was very very

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serious injury and wasn't the only guy to fall today.

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I saw Christian kirk ball in the field. I don't

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know if the surface was bad or not. I did

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talk to EJ. Speed about his reaction into what happened

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to CJ. Garner Johnson, and it was upsetting. He says

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he's got a good family around him, and he says

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they're going to be praying for him and trying to

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give him all the support they can and definitely cast

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a pal over the final day of practice. It would

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have been a productive four days here at the Greenbrier.

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Could have just semed like happened back in Houston. But

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it happened here before the Texans even play a real game.

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Speaker 1: Now, not the depth charts me in to everything, but

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you know who how many players occupy the safety position?

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The depth chart was already.

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Speaker 2: Rather lean there.

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Speaker 1: How much trouble is a franchise in right now at

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that particular position.

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Speaker 2: It's an issue because they were counting on him to

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galvanize the other safety spot next to Calen Bill. Kellen

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bulloks excellent. He had five interceptions last year. But Jimmy

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Ward's coming off foot surgery and he has a Felowy

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case out in Montgomery County that is still unresolved. He

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has an August thirteenth court date. We don't know about

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his availability. We don't know the outcome. I can't predict

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the future for his case or for when his foot

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will be ready because he's still in the cup list.

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One option for them is to have Jalen Teacher play

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safety again. I think that's something that they will at

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least entertain, think about as a personnel and a coaching staff,

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which you can do there. Then you could have Arthur Mlett,

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who's been a veteran starter as a nickel, and we've

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seen some pretty good plays out of Milevis Bryant in

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the past, including in the playoffs, So that is an

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option you have Rush Yeast and you would have had

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I think a guy that could have stepped in in

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Jalen Reed, but he sprained his ankle. Season would be

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out about three weeks. So not having read right now,

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but you know, I think he's going to be back

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during the season, so that will give them some flexibility.

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But yeah, life without CD deuce not as good for

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the defense, but you know, safety position was looking pretty

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good with him. You know, it's an inconceivable to Jimmy Ward,

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who you know, even though he's thirty four, has still

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made some plays, made some plays last year like the

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pick six against the Titans that they couldn't get him

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in there. But I just don't want to speculate Matt

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we'll see. That's what lawyers say.

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Speaker 3: Ross with you here as well, Aaron, and you mentioned

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a lot of different options in a lot of different

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ways that they can kind of address this. Do you

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think they will keep it internal with with all those options,

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or you think Nick Casserio could look external as well.

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Speaker 2: I think he'll look around. That's that's what he always does.

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a surefire option out there that makes a lot of sense,

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we're going to, you know, plug a guy and then

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it's probably already the thing on the internet, like, oh well,

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let's get this guy, let's get scare, let's trade for somebody.

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can get it done with the people he has, you know,

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of Jalen other guys, maybe some other people cross training

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at safety, but him, you know, kind of probably the

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next man up if you're just not want to shuffle,

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we'll probably be m J. Stewart because of his experience

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with Jalen Reed. Still sidelined, and you know, it's not

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the worst sprained ankle ever, but it's a decent sprained

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ankle in the sense that you know, you know, it

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was pretty you know, turned his ankle pretty bad. So

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at least he was able to walk. But he's working hard.

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liked what I was seeing from him. There were pick sixes,

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and I know they weren't hitting, but I know that

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he's a big hitter. For Penn State, he had like

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ninety eight tackles and force and fumbles. He's about two

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hundred and ten pounds. He looks like a little linebacker

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in Stocky met him a couple of times, but when

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he worked out with all those guys on the middle

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school field in the area, and he would see him

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out there, and yeah, he's a serious ballplayer. I think

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he's a good player. And then he's gonna be hurt

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from at some point once he's healthy in the safety position.

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And you know, we're not trying to, you know, right

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go a bit on season gunner season just yet. But

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it didn't look good, and you got to turn the page.

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And yeah, I feel bad for him, and I got

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of known a little bit and a lot of fun

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to talk to, a lot of fun to watch play.

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of the defense not having him.

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seven ninety. So we know the defense had been looking good.

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I saw a couple of reports that the offense was

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looking a little bit better today, including the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: I think they did a decent job of stonewall in

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the rush. It was a scrimmage situation, but unfortunately the

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receivers didn't really do their job, and they can play

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better than that. Nico Collins had a drop, but it

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was an easy touchdown and he didn't catch the football,

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and then there was some double where he was another

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play where he was open and CJ missed them. So

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there were some lapses there. But yeah, they looked, Okay,

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they're not gonna have Nick Chubb in this game. He's

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got a head injury, so the code for a confession

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probably so he's not playing. It was pretty much of

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the young guys looking at on a woode bar. Uh.

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We don't know yet. Shrouds want to play any snaps.

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I can wonder if this injury today gives them any paws.

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in case of emergency, and at some point they have

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to play a little football. He wants to play. We'll

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see if he plays it all. Last year in Pittsburgh

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he played one series, went five for five. They got

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everything done they needed to get done. I think Tank

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had a touchdown. We'll think Dell who'll play next year,

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not this year. But yeah, it's a tough deal, Matt.

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I think you got to get ready. I was just

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that will play on k p r C, and he's

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pretty excited about the rookies like Jayden Higgins and Jalen

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Nole and those guys are definitely playing and get them

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out there and get their feet wet. And like you've

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seening for mariantio ursery and some of the things, some

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of the things that are having on offense that are not

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alarmists and there's a lot of skuys falling kind of stuff,

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and yeah, it's been rough. Well, we don't know yet.

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the offense is gonna look good against you know, some

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teams that don't have a defense like the Texans, or

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it's a concern.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, for Aaron Wilson, he is in West Virginia with

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Wilson unders NFL when are you do to get a

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update on Joe Mixon. I know that coach was not

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overly excited about even talking about that a handful of

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days ago. With Nick Chubby, as you mentioned, being out

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potentially for a concussion. That running back quote unquote room

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is rather a lean as well at this point. So

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about potentially that this one two punch for the Texans

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in the running game.

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Speaker 2: I think as we get closer to the first game,

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that's when they'll see if they can get him on

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the field, and I know that he's not a big

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fan of the preseason, but he's made a bunch of progress.

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that it's definitely a chance he can be ready for

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the first game. It's not a lock that he will be,

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but that he's got got a shot to do that.

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And they're a different offense with the smash mouths element

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they have with him and breakaway threats occasionally with Joe.

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Right now, it doesn't look great and you've got, you know,

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no Nick Chubbs, and you know it's a preseason game,

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but you know, basically what you have available is Starigo Mawale.

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Damian Pierce did in practice today under the ramp up

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that they're doing. Even though yes, he's ready, they're not

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going to let him after one walk through practice go

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from zero to one hundred and playing a game. So

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no Pierce to har Jordan and what he marks, and

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you're just gonna have a lot of those type of

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guys out there playing for the Texans. And so basically

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it's gonna be like kind of a backup Bowl as

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my expectation for the Texans. And I just don't know

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if we're going to see these starters. If we do,

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they'll be out out of there really quick. I do

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think we're going to see the offensive line. Maybe they're

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the exception and I'd love to watch that. I don't

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know if Johnson Gernard is gonna play, and he had

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a great game against these guys and we'll pay back.

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He was mad when they didn't sign into a new

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contract and he left to go to the Vikings and

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cashed in there. But he had a point to prove

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and he proved it. We'll see if it's in the

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action like that. It's just very blue with with preseason,

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especially the first one, getting guys out there and seeing

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what they're gonna do. I not I guess is there

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anybody out there that loves to watch? I would say

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just enjoy the backups. That's probably what we're gonna have.