Speaker 1: Callaroga Shark Media.
Speaker 2: Very busy for Saturday, never mind a Saturday on a
Speaker 2: holiday weekend. I have remembered a Saturday this robust. It's
Speaker 2: been a while.
Speaker 3: Hi.
Speaker 2: I'm Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news. Two big
Speaker 2: specials of this holiday weekend DRAWD Carmichael on HBO Max Tonight,
Speaker 2: Mike Birbiglia on Netflix on Monday. Carmichael doesn't seem to
Speaker 2: have done any press. I'm recording this around noon on Friday.
Speaker 2: I see nothing, and I can't imagine that the PR
Speaker 2: department is putting out stuff on a Friday afternoon into
Speaker 2: a holiday weekend or a Saturday of a holiday weekend.
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure what that's about. Burbiggs did tons
Speaker 2: of press. We'll be talking about him for the next
Speaker 2: week or so. Let's start with this appearance on the
Speaker 2: Vanity Fair podcast. Mike told Vanity Fair a lot of times,
Speaker 2: I'll work out these jokes on his own podcast with people.
Speaker 2: I had Josh Johnson on the podcast recently. We were
Speaker 2: riffing on the premise I had. My wife was like,
Speaker 2: let's go in the basement and fix the piping for
Speaker 2: the water and the building. I put my shoes on
Speaker 2: my coat, and I go, let's go, And she goes,
Speaker 2: I'm afraid of the basement, and I go, I think
Speaker 2: you knew when you said let's go, you meant me honestly,
Speaker 2: it's just jotting down observations like that that are really simple.
Speaker 2: Then a lot of times two things will happen simultaneously.
Speaker 2: As the series of jokes and story sculpts into a
Speaker 2: narrative form that has causality and propulsion to it, does
Speaker 2: some of these jokes fall away? Which ones fall away?
Speaker 2: And which ones stay? And then which ones honestly become
Speaker 2: boring and which ones are still funny. Jirod Carmichael special
Speaker 2: tonight at HBO ten pm. You know they don't do
Speaker 2: the immediate streaming like the other services do, so you
Speaker 2: gotta stay up late. It's his fourth special for HBO,
Speaker 2: this one called Don't Be Gay. Variety reviewed it. Minor
Speaker 2: vibe spoilers here, no specifics. It won't ruin the special
Speaker 2: for you. It was filmed this February in New York City.
Speaker 2: Don't Be Gay opens with Carmichael standing on stage, as
Speaker 2: simple velvet beage curtain acting as the backdrop behind him.
Speaker 2: He immediately begins chatting about his reality series and his
Speaker 2: struggles with internalized homophobia and rampant infidelity. Despite his professional
Speaker 2: and felt financial success, Carmichael admits rather sheepishly that he
Speaker 2: still seeks the approval of black people, which likely has
Speaker 2: to do with his upbringing. The backlash to his white lover,
Speaker 2: or specifically the moment he sucked the toes of a
Speaker 2: hookup on screen pushed him to finally see a mental
Speaker 2: health professional. Carmichael appears more self assured than ever. He
Speaker 2: talks about his waffle obsession, using grinder when he was
Speaker 2: hiding his sexuality, his hyper religious mother, and how challenging
Speaker 2: it is to return to his childhood home in North Carolina.
Speaker 2: Friend of the show Jason Zennemann in The New York
Speaker 2: Times asked, can drawd Carmichael go back to basics? That's
Speaker 2: what he seems to be trying to do in this
Speaker 2: new effort, a return to cynical, punchy jokes that introduced
Speaker 2: themselves with a dash of shock before he came out
Speaker 2: of the closet and a moody sit down performance in
Speaker 2: Nathaniel then made his own navel gazing reality show. Carmichael
Speaker 2: was a Gifted Club comic. His new hour has more
Speaker 2: laughs permitted than his recent work, and his attention getting premises,
Speaker 2: among them A children's funerals aren't as sad as you
Speaker 2: might think. All right, that's promising. That sounds good, and
Speaker 2: we trust Jason. We'll get a special for Netflix. Her
Speaker 2: first for Netflix filth Queen, June twenty fourth. Filmed in Boston,
Speaker 2: the hour is produced by Bill Burr. Bill Burr told
Speaker 2: Deadline the first time I saw Steph Tillev was a
Speaker 2: promotional video she made for New York City show. I
Speaker 2: mean he fell in love with her in her comedy,
Speaker 2: one of the most inhibited original voices out there today.
Speaker 2: I love everything at boat her otsgo At Cotska, one
Speaker 2: of my favorites. Will have a special for Hulu. Hi,
Speaker 2: Hulu publicists, How you guys doing ots go At Cootska
Speaker 2: father on Hulu June thirteenth. There's even a trailer. Let's listen.
Speaker 1: So I asked my husband the other day how to
Speaker 1: turn on the washing machine, and that's how he realized
Speaker 1: that he had been doing the laundry.
Speaker 3: All these years.
Speaker 2: I was shocked to.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it has been you this whole time.
Speaker 1: You know, when you've seen someone do something so you think, oh,
Speaker 1: that was me too, only to walk up to the
Speaker 1: washing machine and realize, huh, I've never touched these buttons before.
Speaker 2: Father is Otsko's first special for Hulu, her second overall,
Speaker 2: The Intruder on HBO. It was a really fantastic one.
Speaker 2: Apple TV Plus announced the first original Peanuts musical in
Speaker 2: thirty five years. Snoopy Presents a summer musical. Ben Folds
Speaker 2: will write original music for the July eighteenth release. A
Speaker 2: summer musical is forty minutes long. In it, Charlie Brown
Speaker 2: is determined to make his final Yeared Camp special, but
Speaker 2: Sally is nervous about the new and unfamiliar place she's
Speaker 2: new to the camp. Also, Snoopy and Woodstock discover a
Speaker 2: treasure map that takes them on quote a wild adventure
Speaker 2: that's right. One morning, the Peanuts gang learns that their
Speaker 2: beloved camp is shutting down because there are fewer campers
Speaker 2: joining each summer. This saddens Charlie Brown, who feels hopeless
Speaker 2: about losing a place that has meant so much to
Speaker 2: him and his friends. The Scrubs reboot took a step
Speaker 2: towards reality. Zach Braff has signed on. He will come
Speaker 2: back as doctor John Dorian in the Scrubs reboot. This
Speaker 2: is pretty cool. On the other hand, what else is
Speaker 2: Zach Braff doing a podcast talking about Scrubs. Of course
Speaker 2: he's going to come back for their reboot. Next thing
Speaker 2: you're going to tell me is Donald Faison is coming back.
Speaker 2: He's got nothing going on either, No offense guys. Of
Speaker 2: course you're going to do the Scrubs reboot. Bill Lawrence
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty two said if you ever have
Speaker 2: an excuse to work with people you want to spend
Speaker 2: time with anyway, or run to it. We'll also see
Speaker 2: who signs up. It is expected Donald Faison and Sarah
Speaker 2: Chalk will join up, and that Judy Rayis and John
Speaker 2: c McGinley will do limited appearances. That's what I have
Speaker 2: been seeing. Pete Davidson returned to Stand up after one
Speaker 2: year year. The New York Post reported Pete showed up
Speaker 2: at the stand last week on Monday and Wednesday nights,
Speaker 2: did fifteen minutes each night. A source told Page six.
Speaker 2: Pete open the set talking about how aidn't been on
Speaker 2: stage for a year, with his last set being a
Speaker 2: co headlining show. With Dave Chappelle in Ohio. No details
Speaker 2: on the set, though Bo and Yang was on the
Speaker 2: red carpet for the grand opening of Universal's Epic Universe.
Speaker 2: They asked him, hey, you coming back to SNL, because
Speaker 2: you looked like you weren't coming back. Yang acknowledged he
Speaker 2: was emotional on the Good Nights and said, I think
Speaker 2: you get to a point in SNL where you understand
Speaker 2: that you're on the downswing of things. I think I
Speaker 2: was just processing that being one of the last nights
Speaker 2: that I would have, and that's a huge thing. Every
Speaker 2: finale of Good Nights, something leaves my body because I'm
Speaker 2: just relieved from all that happened that season, and this
Speaker 2: was a big one. We went through a lot, so
Speaker 2: many fun memories. I think that was probably registering. I
Speaker 2: was just like, Oh, I need to savor these moments
Speaker 2: because I don't have them anymore. He was asked, is
Speaker 2: that last comment mean you're not coming back? Yang deflected
Speaker 2: the question, laughing and saying, no, we're not doing that.
Speaker 2: Just admit you're not coming back. I would have told
Speaker 2: you about this one, but I didn't see it until
Speaker 2: five minutes before it happened. But I think it's a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. If you've been following John Oliver's show,
Speaker 2: he's been trying to get minor league teams to rebrand.
Speaker 2: He's been making fun of minor league baseball. Well, the
Speaker 2: Saint Paul Saints went the other way. They had Plain Night.
Speaker 2: You see on the May fifth Oliver Show, John said
Speaker 2: that minor league baseball clubs should get more creative with
Speaker 2: their marketing and team names. John Oliver specifically called out
Speaker 2: the Saint Paul Saints has a disappointing example. So for
Speaker 2: Plain Knight, any Saints fan who had an ID with
Speaker 2: either the name John or Oliver quote two of the
Speaker 2: top one hundred and fifty generic men's names in the
Speaker 2: world got a free ticket. I could have gotten in
Speaker 2: for free. That's awesome. The first thousand fans of the
Speaker 2: game also received a plain piece of white paper. They
Speaker 2: also were blowing off the kiss cam or any other
Speaker 2: fun things on the Jobbotron. They were only going to
Speaker 2: show people in khaki pans and tuck did shirts. The
Speaker 2: only concession served at the game vanilla ice cream. Okay,
Speaker 2: I but trying to get to this one all week.
Speaker 2: The Inside Late Night podcast, Mark Malkoff spoke with Bill Carter.
Speaker 2: Jay Leno was the topic I had brought up on
Speaker 2: this program a few weeks ago, my question of like,
Speaker 2: is Jay Leno a nice guy or not? He seems
Speaker 2: like a nice guy, but everybody bat mounts him. So
Speaker 2: they got into it a little bit. The cleaner audio
Speaker 2: is Mark. The audio that sounds like it's a little
Speaker 2: uh not recorded on a proper studio microphone. That's Bill Carter.
Speaker 2: In this first clip they discussed Jay and Conan.
Speaker 4: Obviously I wrote a whole book about it, so it
Speaker 4: was interesting that they did want to avoid the Letterman
Speaker 4: Leno thing that happened before. So what did they do?
Speaker 4: They did give Conan the show with a five year wait.
Speaker 4: Five years, so Conin was hot as a pistol at
Speaker 4: the time, really really hot. And he could have said,
Speaker 4: I'm not waiting five years, I'm going to five right
Speaker 4: now right. Fox could have cleared the show and he
Speaker 4: would have been on Fox. He could have said that,
Speaker 4: but he, like the other guys, wanted the Tonight show.
Speaker 4: So he's he agreed to park his career for five year,
Speaker 4: park it WHI while he waited for Jay figuring and
Speaker 4: they all figured well in five years, Jay will want
Speaker 4: to leave, or maybe his raateers will be down. Well,
Speaker 4: they didn't know Jay if they thought he'd want to leave,
Speaker 4: but that they set that up, they set that in
Speaker 4: motion and for Jay and they come to him, they say,
Speaker 4: we love you. We're can standing here for another five years.
Speaker 4: And he didn't like the idea that there was a
Speaker 4: termination date. But at that point he was like, how
Speaker 4: can I say not to this and then Conan leaves
Speaker 4: and then I have another guy competing with me? Right,
Speaker 4: this is all in his head and he has nobody
Speaker 4: really advising him. He doesn't have a killer agent. If
Speaker 4: he has a killer agent, in these circumstances, he has
Speaker 4: way more leverage than he showed. He had a more
Speaker 4: leverage than he Just think.
Speaker 3: Jay rich Ratzk regrets and I think if he had
Speaker 3: to maybe go back, he would have given up the
Speaker 3: show and Laconan do his thing. I really really think that.
Speaker 3: I don't think he would say that publicly maybe, but
Speaker 3: I mean it's just he wouldn't have.
Speaker 4: Done the ten o'clock shows. What you're saying, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think he would did the ten o'clock show, or
Speaker 3: he would have at least like been like, okay, this
Speaker 3: didn't work, and this was a failure, and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: leave and do something else for NBC.
Speaker 2: And the question that I've been asking, does Jay Leno
Speaker 2: have any legacy? He's got the longevity, but what is
Speaker 2: his legacy? And I think his legacy might be tied
Speaker 2: to Codin O'Brien, which is a good time for me
Speaker 2: to remember to promote tomorrow's podcast. I have definitively declared
Speaker 2: there's no arguing the four names that are going up
Speaker 2: on Late Night Mount Rushmore. So don't like jump on
Speaker 2: a Facebook group or in the comments thinking you're gonna
Speaker 2: argue with me. No, I don't want that at all.
Speaker 2: You think I want to goose the algorithm starting a discussion. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: you just accept the four names that I declare tomorrow
Speaker 2: Late Night's Mount Rushmore. Anyway, anyway, here's Bill and Mark
Speaker 2: discussing Jay Leno's legacy.
Speaker 4: If you ask people what is his legacy? What did
Speaker 4: he bring? That is a big problem. He doesn't have
Speaker 4: the same ongoing resonance as certainly Letterman and now Conan
Speaker 4: is on fire right, he doesn't have that, and he
Speaker 4: would say it doesn't bother him because he was more
Speaker 4: interested in doing whatever, but he didn't advance the show
Speaker 4: in some significant way.
Speaker 3: You really thought that being number one was going to
Speaker 3: be enough. And if people look at Honeymooner's Perry Como
Speaker 3: was number one, and people do not remember Como, they
Speaker 3: remember the Honeymooners. It's one of those things. I mean,
Speaker 3: when I worked with you for CNN, You're a Webby
Speaker 3: Award winning host and I was one of the producers.
Speaker 3: We did this thing for CNN, a podcast, and before that,
Speaker 3: you did the History of Late Night, which I was
Speaker 3: featured in. That was nice enough to be in. But
Speaker 3: Jay was supposed to talk about his legacy and talk
Speaker 3: about the Tonight show. And a half hour before he's
Speaker 3: supposed to film with him and the crew and everything's lit,
Speaker 3: he calls you. What does he say?
Speaker 4: He says, he's not doing it because because Dave wouldn't
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 3: A half hour before he tells you this, he could
Speaker 3: have not just in.
Speaker 4: From the airport. I had landed that morning. I was
Speaker 4: driving in from the airport and he called me and said,
Speaker 4: he's not I'm not doing it and he and he said,
Speaker 4: because you know I Dave won't do it, and then
Speaker 4: I'll look bad, and I said, you won't look bad.
Speaker 4: Who cares what Dave's doing. You're you have a You're
Speaker 4: a giant in late night on your own. You don't
Speaker 4: What does it matter what Letterman does or doesn't do. No, No,
Speaker 4: I'll just get slammed for I'll get slammed for I said,
Speaker 4: you won't get slammed for it if you do it.
Speaker 4: I mean, if he did it and you didn't do it,
Speaker 4: you might get slammed for it.
Speaker 2: And for the show. Jason's Inniman makes the podcast for
Speaker 2: the second time. Today, Hi, Jason, have a good Memorial
Speaker 2: Day weekend. Jason floated the premise that Mulaney has figured
Speaker 2: it out. Now, I'm not going to ever disagree with
Speaker 2: Jason's in him and he's smarter than I am. And
Speaker 2: I've kind of given up on even sampling Mullane's show.
Speaker 2: I've tried to show like five six times, and like
Speaker 2: I just I'm not feeling it. This upcoming week is
Speaker 2: the one where Mulaney supposedly will fight three fourteen year
Speaker 2: old boys. Jason writes, is this whole thing a trick
Speaker 2: to get your attention? If so, it's a good one,
Speaker 2: because I've spent a fair amount of time considering ways
Speaker 2: that the host could possibly avoid taking a beating. It's
Speaker 2: not easy to dream up winning strategy for a delicate
Speaker 2: looking forty two year old comic that doesn't include weapons
Speaker 2: or rigging the rules. Mullaney appears confident about his chances.
Speaker 2: Of course, he always does. He takes part in all
Speaker 2: these stupendous, stupid and absurd things, not with an ironic,
Speaker 2: wink like letterment or sense of childlike silliness like O'Brien,
Speaker 2: but with an alien sureness, as if he were born
Speaker 2: to tell jokes blindfolded and get pummeled by teenagers for
Speaker 2: our entertainment. Until recently, he was this wholesome, very nice
Speaker 2: young man of stand up comedy. Then divorce and rehab
Speaker 2: shifted his image and his special about it catapulted him
Speaker 2: to a new position, the most acclaimed stand up of
Speaker 2: the moment. That he's now spending his cultural capital on
Speaker 2: this weirder show is something that deserves attention credit and
Speaker 2: I hope another season we'll see. So the initial announcement
Speaker 2: was that it got picked up for two seasons, but
Speaker 2: the words from Robbie pra the Netflix out of comedy.
Speaker 2: A couple weeks ago made me think that they're questioning things.
Speaker 2: Netflix does like to cancel things after one season, and
Speaker 2: it hasn't been showing up in the top ten. A
Speaker 2: lot of buzz on the show, but not too many
Speaker 2: people are actually watching. Apparently, We'll see if that one
Speaker 2: gets renewed. All Right, that is your comedy news for
Speaker 2: today again tomorrow, the definitive List, no arguing the Mount
Speaker 2: Rushmore of late night comedy, and a normal episode on Monday.
Speaker 2: All Right meets you back here tomorrow