Speaker 1: Six six fifty five KR see the talk station Happy Wednesday.
Speaker 1: One hour from now, Jack Adiden returns. We'll be talking
Speaker 1: with Jack about well why Democrats are still woke, plus
Speaker 1: the topic of conversation Marxists and the Marx Brothers. Fast
Speaker 1: forward eight thir to Judge Annapolitano with the Feds and
Speaker 1: their own bribery, and back in studio, which is a
Speaker 1: wonderful thing to behold because I love talking to people
Speaker 1: in studio. George Brennman and Keith Tenenfeld who are helping
Speaker 1: the hoping to help people out with their.
Speaker 2: You know, diets.
Speaker 1: Exercise Restore Wellness dot org is the website you can
Speaker 1: check out. We'll be talking with them today about what
Speaker 1: should RFK focus on.
Speaker 2: George Keith. Great to see you both again.
Speaker 1: And remember Keith is a nurse practitioner and he uh
Speaker 1: you focus on alternative medicine, therapies and.
Speaker 3: Things of that nature, integrating it all together, you know,
Speaker 3: west side medicine if you want to call it, that
Speaker 3: is Western medicine. It's not a horrible thing. It's got great,
Speaker 3: great avenues to for treatment. And then there's also the
Speaker 3: alternative options which allow people to have access to really
Speaker 3: great natural things that will actually work without harming themselves.
Speaker 2: Well, and.
Speaker 1: The trend now and you can sort of see it unfold.
Speaker 1: I'm not some sort of astute observer and seeing this,
Speaker 1: but we a Western medicine tends to focus on dealing
Speaker 1: with the symptom as opposed to the root cause of
Speaker 1: why you have the symptom. You're in pain. Here's a
Speaker 1: pain medication. Well, wait a second, why are you in pain?
Speaker 1: And what caused you to get the pain. That's kind
Speaker 1: of I think it seems to me at least, where
Speaker 1: more Eastern medicine sort of focuses on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Western medicine just you know, that patches the tire
Speaker 3: because it's got a leak in it. But the rest
Speaker 3: of the medicine says, well, wait a minute, what's in
Speaker 3: your driveway? You gotta nail your driveway. You keep on
Speaker 3: driving over and it takes longer for you to find
Speaker 3: that nail. You know, it's easier to just to patch
Speaker 3: a hole. And so for Western medicines and in and
Speaker 3: out kind of process, you're just giving a drug out
Speaker 3: the door, you go, and they can make the billing
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 2: That's pretty much what it is. It is.
Speaker 1: You know, it's weird to me, and I'm not the
Speaker 1: first person observed this either. You'll have these pharmaceutical commercials
Speaker 1: always crack me up. Do not take filling the black drug.
Speaker 1: If you're allergic to fill in the black drug. That
Speaker 1: in and of itself it reveals an absurdity. But beyond that,
Speaker 1: it's like, here is an extra medication to take along
Speaker 1: with the other medication because the other medication isn't quite
Speaker 1: dealing with your symptoms, whether it's depression or whatever. So
Speaker 1: you're piling on and you know, it makes you kind
Speaker 1: of wonder, well, have they really and I don't know
Speaker 1: this because I'm not a pharmacologist, I don't play one
Speaker 1: on radio. Do they really know how those drugs interact
Speaker 1: with each other and what other drugs you are taking?
Speaker 1: I know that's what pharmacists are supposed to be aware of.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're getting prescribed this. Well, did you
Speaker 1: know that this drug you're taking over here will have
Speaker 1: a problem with that and interact with it. I don't
Speaker 1: know how they can do those multitude of cross studies
Speaker 1: that would take to determine whether there are any deleterious effects.
Speaker 3: I think with AI coming there, it's gonna pop out
Speaker 3: quite quite easily.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a benefit from AI right there. Okay, good enough,
Speaker 1: But you're hitting the point there. And when you started
Speaker 1: with saying you're seeing these ads on television. If you
Speaker 1: watch like the football games, half the ads are for pharmacology. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why in the world me, as a patient, should I
Speaker 1: be asking you for a specific drug. Isn't that what
Speaker 1: I'm paying a doctor for is to tell me what
Speaker 1: is it that's going to help me. Instead, we've got
Speaker 1: this whole money driven scheme where they got to sell
Speaker 1: the customer you need to ask for orozempic.
Speaker 4: I mean you just have to ask for that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: when in fact, you know that might not be your
Speaker 4: problem at all. They I don't think we should be
Speaker 4: having ads for pharmacy. I know this is one of
Speaker 4: the things RFK has been talking about, is getting rid
Speaker 4: of the ads. But it's like, you know, giving me
Speaker 4: tools I could use as a brain surgeon. Well, I'm
Speaker 4: not a brain surgeon. Why are you telling me about
Speaker 4: the tools?
Speaker 1: Well, the flip side of that, and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a free speech advocate. If you want to try to
Speaker 1: advertise and sell me a product, I am capable of
Speaker 1: saying no and seeing through the marketing nonsense and also
Speaker 1: calling into question whether or not, given that half or
Speaker 1: more of each pharmaceutical commercial is ridden with all of
Speaker 1: the side effects related to taking it, that's enough to
Speaker 1: scare me away from the drug. In fact, one of
Speaker 1: the treatment protocols I was offered. I'm quite serious about
Speaker 1: this because you know, I have a lymphoma and since
Speaker 1: it returned last fall I found from a CT scan,
Speaker 1: I was given three treatment options. And you know, I
Speaker 1: love my cancer doctors. I would never say anything bad
Speaker 1: about OHC, But one of the pharmaceuticals that would go
Speaker 1: along with this other you know, bagged drip kind of thing,
Speaker 1: would I boiled down basically turn me into a hemophiliac.
Speaker 1: OH great idea is that this drug will reduces the
Speaker 1: amount of clotting that can take place in your drug.
Speaker 1: And I was specifically told because here's the information, like RFK,
Speaker 1: here's what the problems that might exist if you choose
Speaker 1: to go down this line. It may cure you. But if,
Speaker 1: for example, the example I was given, you got to
Speaker 1: get a colonoscopy because there could be a puncture thing
Speaker 1: happening in there. Because they don't always go right. So
Speaker 1: if you know in advance you're going to get a colonoscopy,
Speaker 1: you stop taking the drug a month ahead of time.
Speaker 1: And my response was, well, what if I'm in an
Speaker 1: auto accident? Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean you can't anticipate
Speaker 1: when you might get have a bleeding situation, sort.
Speaker 2: Of like, no, I'm not going to do that. So good.
Speaker 1: I got the information and I made an informed decision,
Speaker 1: and I know.
Speaker 4: And that's ninety percent of what we've been talking about
Speaker 4: with Restore Wellness is getting the information out there, that's it,
Speaker 4: and giving people like treatment options instead of them being
Speaker 4: only you know, blindsided into one option.
Speaker 3: It allows them to say, well, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: What are you and con what can you control about
Speaker 3: your illness? And how can you make that a better outcome.
Speaker 3: My patients who are actually actively involved are doing much
Speaker 3: more fantastic than walking in and saying, okay, doc, whatever
Speaker 3: you want me to do. The engaged creates health exactly.
Speaker 1: And I think the problem we face as a population
Speaker 1: is probably that we don't want to be engaged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we.
Speaker 1: Just sort of moved through our daily lives and not
Speaker 1: consider the implications and ramifications of going into a seven
Speaker 1: to eleven and getting a sixty four ounce big gulp.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I think that people have
Speaker 3: been convinced that they should not manage their own health,
Speaker 3: so therefore they've defaulted that to the experts, when really
Speaker 3: you're the expert on your own body. You're the expert
Speaker 3: on what makes a tick, what works all those little incursies.
Speaker 3: I think it's a great opportunity for us to start
Speaker 3: waking up and going, Okay, this is my body, I'm
Speaker 3: responsible for it. I'm going to eat right, I'm exercise right,
Speaker 3: and then next you know, you're gonna see this wellness
Speaker 3: just bloom.
Speaker 1: Okay, and again going back to okay, June, this is
Speaker 1: something I'm hoping that he just elevate awareness. Did you
Speaker 1: know by any chance that fill in the blank is
Speaker 1: really actually bad for you? Or that the food pyramid
Speaker 1: that we've been relying on for so many years is
Speaker 1: bast awkwards, you know, or maybe the motivations for why
Speaker 1: the food pyramid looks like Listen, I grew up in
Speaker 1: four four three two. It was four servings of I
Speaker 1: believe a grains three four remember four you remember, George.
Speaker 4: Oh, it was crazy, but I mean at the time
Speaker 4: it was religion. I mean, and it still is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Last night as we were having our bacon and eggs,
Speaker 4: Nancy asked the question, you know, why is that a
Speaker 4: feel bad when we're doing this. I'm like, we should
Speaker 4: feel bad, but it's because we've been ingrained with this
Speaker 4: since we were that this is wrong.
Speaker 3: And since the pyramid has been flipped, you've got diabetes,
Speaker 3: hig cholesterol, heart it hasn't fixed heart disease. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: Now we have cancer rampid. I mean, so it's obvious
Speaker 3: there's something going on there.
Speaker 1: And my grandfather and I felt so badly for him.
Speaker 1: He had to bypass surgery and this is back in
Speaker 1: the seventies and uh, because he had clogged arteries and
Speaker 1: that he was not allowed to have eggs anymore, and
Speaker 1: that he you know, he loved to have eggs on
Speaker 1: it for breakfast. That was what he did. And whether
Speaker 1: or not that any connections with why he had artery blockage,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was a heavy smoker too, But.
Speaker 1: Looking back now and eggs we find out now are
Speaker 1: not bad for you.
Speaker 2: That's what I've been did.
Speaker 1: The research confirms actually can have some health benefits for you.
Speaker 2: What, Keith, you call him protein pills?
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, I mean it's I think eggs and cholesterol
Speaker 4: and statins in cholesterol are one of the most evil
Speaker 4: things we ever came up with, the idea that you know,
Speaker 4: the reason you're getting a heart attack is because you
Speaker 4: have cholesterol in your system. No, cholesterol is what arrives
Speaker 4: after you have the problem. It's like blaming firemen for
Speaker 4: the fire. Yeah, there are always firemen near a house fire,
Speaker 4: but they aren't the ones that are causing the problem.
Speaker 4: Seems true with cholesterol. It's the fact that your arteries
Speaker 4: got stretched inflamed, had breakages, and the cholesterol comes in
Speaker 4: to fix it. So instead of fixing the root cause problem,
Speaker 4: which is the inflammation, we're just obsessed with this number
Speaker 4: called cholesterol and getting it lower. And in fact it's
Speaker 4: what's causing the Alzheimer's. It's what's causing Well see now, okay,
Speaker 4: right there, you said the a word Alzheimer's. I want
Speaker 4: to talk about that when we come back, because I
Speaker 4: got you guys have.
Speaker 1: Done more research on this than I have. But my
Speaker 1: dad was taking statins from the moment they came out.
Speaker 1: I remember the eighties, and he used to joke, but
Speaker 1: I am teflon coded. I'm never going to have to
Speaker 1: worry about any blockage and guests, he ended up dying
Speaker 1: from Alzheimer's, and I'm just wondering whether it's connection there.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that a little bit with George and
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Speaker 1: The countdown is on set six fifty five KERRC detalk
Speaker 1: station focusing on health. In this hour, George Runman and
Speaker 1: Keith Tannenfeld in studio Restore Wellness dot org. And I
Speaker 1: guess your guys main motivation is this is just to
Speaker 1: spread the word about health and awareness about health.
Speaker 4: We're trying to make people comfortable with the idea of
Speaker 4: taking control of their own health. The idea that I
Speaker 4: don't have to wait till I'm sick to see a
Speaker 4: doctor and get well instead, don't get sick in the
Speaker 4: first place. And how do you do that, Well, you know,
Speaker 4: we've been talking about keto, We've been talking about the
Speaker 4: idea of what what it means cholesterol wise. How do
Speaker 4: we make people comfortable with the idea of taking control?
Speaker 4: And you know it's it's by giving information out there.
Speaker 4: I am not certified, I'm not a doctor. Keith is
Speaker 4: a functional you know, nurse practitioner, but I'm a nerd
Speaker 4: with you know this itch that I got a scratch,
Speaker 4: And so we started down, my wife and I started
Speaker 4: down this rabbit hole, reading a ton of information, and
Speaker 4: what you find out is everything you thought to be
Speaker 4: true was actually the result of a lobbying campaign. So
Speaker 4: the food Pyramid was the result of a lobbying campaign.
Speaker 4: The grain the first time the other day. And the
Speaker 4: whole idea of statin's curing heart disease was the result
Speaker 4: of a campaign because they had these new form of
Speaker 4: drugs called statins that could reduce cholesterol. But when you
Speaker 4: dig into the facts, every study done, especially on older women,
Speaker 4: shows that the higher cholesterol, the longer you live, and
Speaker 4: the lower your cholesterol, the more likely you are to
Speaker 4: get heart disease menshell, Alzheimer's and all these other soberable issues.
Speaker 1: Have there been peer reviewed studies that show a correlation
Speaker 1: between taking statins. Like I said, I was going back
Speaker 1: to my dad's illustration because he thought it was the
Speaker 1: greatest thing since sliced bread that he could eat whatever
Speaker 1: he wanted because he was on statins and he was
Speaker 1: teflon coded.
Speaker 2: I remember him saying that one day.
Speaker 1: But again, from the very very first release of those
Speaker 1: in the eighties, he had been taking him as basically
Speaker 1: his whole life because demonstrably he had what they called
Speaker 1: high cholesterol, bad cholesterol, good cholesterol.
Speaker 2: And so did I.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you know, And so I was on him
Speaker 1: for a long time, and and you know, I ended
Speaker 1: up going with biodentical hormone replacement therapy when I was
Speaker 1: doing commercials for your wellness center because that's what the
Speaker 1: Europeans use to deal with cholesterol issues. I haven't had
Speaker 1: a problem since there's a couple of issues.
Speaker 3: And to answer your question about researcher, let's talk about research.
Speaker 3: Research has been hacked, right, that's big pharma, you know,
Speaker 3: supporting the research, so therefore it's going to be sided
Speaker 3: no matter how much you like it. And then these
Speaker 3: universal research articles such as like or the bodies like
Speaker 3: the Lancet, they've kind of been bought out politically as well.
Speaker 3: And if you if you're in the industry and you
Speaker 3: see how many times in research you know it's been
Speaker 3: done and it's been pulled because it's been poor poorly designed.
Speaker 3: Then you start seeing the science said, hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: they're hijacking their research as well. As soon as you
Speaker 3: go to google something, the top ones come up. You know,
Speaker 3: it's just like if you go to right and those
Speaker 3: are the ones that are the strangest.
Speaker 4: My introduction to the problem with Statin's is I had
Speaker 4: a conversation with a friend that's a corner, he says.
Speaker 4: The incident I open a body, I can immediately tell
Speaker 4: that they've been on statins immediately tell really there's visual
Speaker 4: evidence that it is destroying what's going on and my
Speaker 4: personal experience, just like you, you're in your father, I
Speaker 4: always prescribed statin's fairly early.
Speaker 2: Every bone in my body hurt. I could barely walk.
Speaker 4: I hurt so bad, and as soon as I stopped
Speaker 4: taking them, I got better. And it's like, well, wait
Speaker 4: a minute, No drugs should make you feel that bad.
Speaker 4: And then when you do the further research. The first
Speaker 4: book I read was called The clot Thickens and it's
Speaker 4: all about what's the role of cholesterol. And what you
Speaker 4: find out is it's a necessary body chemical that's needed
Speaker 4: for your brain, it's needed for homemons.
Speaker 2: You should have.
Speaker 4: I think the nineteen fifties standard was a cholesterol three
Speaker 4: hundred that was considered healthy and good. And like I said,
Speaker 4: there's been several studies recently. I want to say, there
Speaker 4: was one that I just read about on X a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago that shows this correlation between the
Speaker 4: higher your cholesterol, the longer you live. Now, it is
Speaker 4: still a marker, meaning you know, if you go in
Speaker 4: and get a blood test and you have high cholesterol,
Speaker 4: there is a chance it's because you have inflammation destroying
Speaker 4: your arteries and your blood system. That's what you have
Speaker 4: to solve is the inflammation, not the cholesterol. The cholesterol
Speaker 4: is just the wake up called as there might be
Speaker 4: a problem in your system. And Keith, you can speak
Speaker 4: to that because I don't want to be the doctor. George,
Speaker 4: you're doing a fantastic job and impact. Let me go
Speaker 4: back to that.
Speaker 3: You know, the reason I think we make a great
Speaker 3: team is that you know, we're dealing with your side
Speaker 3: it which is the patient side, on the provider's side.
Speaker 3: We're working together to heal something. That's the way it
Speaker 3: should be. It's not you know, it's not just Hey,
Speaker 3: I'm going to sit here and talk the entire time
Speaker 3: because I think I know what I'm doing. No. I
Speaker 3: love the patient experience. It gives people a real sense
Speaker 3: of getting better. Vitamin D. Vitamin D is essentral for cholesterol.
Speaker 3: Without vitamin D, your cholesterol is not going to work
Speaker 3: very well. So a lot of people have high cholesterol
Speaker 3: probably have very.
Speaker 2: Low vitamin D.
Speaker 1: So and maybe we can talk a little bit more
Speaker 1: about supplements. But you can drink milk for vitamin D.
Speaker 1: You can get from sunlight.
Speaker 2: Correct, but you live in Cincinnati and the way the
Speaker 2: sun arcs off the earth art I know.
Speaker 1: And it's also been gray for the right three months.
Speaker 1: It's my solar system tells me that every month. But
Speaker 1: you can take a vitamin D supplement.
Speaker 3: Correct, Definitely, five thousand units every day for most people. Definitely.
Speaker 3: All right, if you're overweight, ten ten thousand units. Okay,
Speaker 3: not a lot, it's not a lot. All right, hold on,
Speaker 3: we're going to bring it back. We talk more about this.
Speaker 3: It's fascinating for me. Fascinating.
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Speaker 1: Six thirty two fifty five Care the talk station, full
Speaker 1: hour talking about health. It's very enlightening in studio George
Speaker 1: Brenneman and Keith enfl to Keith Saint Nerds practitioner and
Speaker 1: runs an alternative medicine practice and trying to engage his
Speaker 1: patients and get them to, you know, take stocking themselves.
Speaker 1: And that's what this is all about. And that's what
Speaker 1: you know. I'm optimistic about RFK Junior, in spite of
Speaker 1: my lot many of my listeners saying, oh, you're letting
Speaker 1: a wolf into the henhouse. He's a nutcase when it
Speaker 1: comes to green and this and that, and I'm thinking
Speaker 1: he's over in health and human services. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: have any impact on whether or not he's gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna be driving an electric vehicle or not. But his
Speaker 1: mantra has been raising awareness and giving people information and
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I like about it, because I'm
Speaker 1: a transparency guy. I want as much information as I
Speaker 1: can so I can make informed decisions about my life.
Speaker 2: You know that. Shouldn't we have all that?
Speaker 1: Then we were talking about vaccines off air, and I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I told Keith listen, I'm glad there's a
Speaker 1: polio vaccine out there, and I'm glad I've got it
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't want to end up in an iron lung.
Speaker 1: You know, I get that. But then again, I don't
Speaker 1: get the flu vaccine. The main reason is because they
Speaker 1: always get it wrong.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a crap intentionally or unintentionally, they always
Speaker 4: get And you see the spike right now in flu.
Speaker 4: They're saying that this year is the worst flu season
Speaker 4: they've had in years. How much of that is what
Speaker 4: they pumped into the flu vaccine and then release that
Speaker 4: to the world.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I I got down
Speaker 1: conspiratorial rat holes. That's fine. There may be something nefarious
Speaker 1: out there behind the whole thing, But I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to put something into my body that
Speaker 1: it stands a good chance that it's really not going
Speaker 1: wrong anything. And I've had the flu before, and you
Speaker 1: know what, You're sick for three or four.
Speaker 2: Days and then you get well again.
Speaker 4: Well we had we had chicken box, we had the measles,
Speaker 4: we had lops. We all got that, the whole family
Speaker 4: would get it all at the same time. But I
Speaker 4: think the problem with the vaccines now is a none
Speaker 4: of them are vaccines. My definition of a vaccine is
Speaker 4: once you get this, you cannot get the disease. So
Speaker 4: clearly the mRNA stuff is not a vaccine because everybody
Speaker 4: got covid ek after they had that.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, real quick here, let's do it boiled down.
Speaker 1: What's mRNA versus the traditional vaccine which takes the dead
Speaker 1: disease and interject your body so we create a natural
Speaker 1: immune response. How is mRNA different than that traditional type
Speaker 1: of disease.
Speaker 2: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: So when mRNA is one of those replicators, it's a
Speaker 3: messenger RNA, so it takes it and it can make copies,
Speaker 3: multiple copies through.
Speaker 4: You know, it forces your own DNA to make a
Speaker 4: chemical that was instructed by the code in the mRNA vaccine.
Speaker 4: I'm a computer nerd, so mRNAs are like hacking the
Speaker 4: kernel of an operating system. They go in there and
Speaker 4: they teach your DNA how to make, in this case,
Speaker 4: the spike protein from the covid. So unlike when they
Speaker 4: give you a semi dead virus in your body naturally reacts.
Speaker 2: What this does.
Speaker 4: What mRNA does is it actually rewrites to the DNA
Speaker 4: to create a new chemical in your body, in this
Speaker 4: case the spike protein. I think there are two different kinds.
Speaker 4: There's mRNA and there's something that they do by introducing
Speaker 4: through a virus, you can get a viral carrier, a
Speaker 4: viral carrier that does it, which is a little bit different.
Speaker 4: And that's the difference between the Johnson and Johnson and
Speaker 4: the other two that were true mRNAs. The issue there
Speaker 4: is from my perspective, was always how do you know
Speaker 4: when it stops making that protein? And so their initial
Speaker 4: selling of the mRNA vaccines is they would only happen
Speaker 4: in the injection site, so your body would get that
Speaker 4: the mRNA would go into your system in your arm,
Speaker 4: and only the DNA near the injection site would produce
Speaker 4: the spike protein. Turns out that wasn't true. The entire
Speaker 4: body absorbs it because the blood flows through your entire body.
Speaker 4: I don't know how that theory ever makes sense. The
Speaker 4: mRNA was not ready to come out yet. That the
Speaker 4: theory of how it was going to work was going
Speaker 4: to be great, but it wasn't ready, and we didn't
Speaker 4: know how to stop. But we knew how to turn
Speaker 4: it on, but we didn't know how to stop it.
Speaker 4: And it's evident.
Speaker 3: And what's happening is it's changing the immune system and
Speaker 3: the immune systems causing all kinds of interesting problems such
Speaker 3: as cancer aka turbo cancers.
Speaker 1: Oh great, yeah, well, fortunately I didn't get the damn shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I had COVID, I got a natural immunity.
Speaker 1: I even had my T cells tested for it, and
Speaker 1: I was off the charts. So why get a vaccine
Speaker 1: when I went through the body?
Speaker 2: The right thing?
Speaker 3: You know, I think on the vaccine concept, I think
Speaker 3: it's really really wrong that that offices can fire their
Speaker 3: patients because they choose not to get vaccines.
Speaker 2: That should be a patient's right.
Speaker 3: And when a doctor fires you from a practice because
Speaker 3: you don't want to get vaccine, what that says, get
Speaker 3: out of my office so I can make money on
Speaker 3: somebody else.
Speaker 2: I tell you what.
Speaker 1: Keith we can develop that a little bit further out
Speaker 1: of time in this break, and I want you to
Speaker 1: elaborate on that as scoach as we were doing off air,
Speaker 1: because it makes some very interesting points on that, most
Speaker 1: notably given that recent Children's Hospitals decision not to allow
Speaker 1: this patient to get a heart transplant because you didn't
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Speaker 1: We fired our doctors because they wanted to jab us
Speaker 1: with the COVID nineteen vaccine.
Speaker 2: That's a two way three right, and we were talking
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had this recent case locally, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm no distant Children's They have served my family well
Speaker 1: over the years. We've had some issues. We had to
Speaker 1: have our children and Children's hospital. I love them. I
Speaker 1: think they do wonderful work, except in a couple of areas.
Speaker 1: But then when I find out they say, no, you
Speaker 1: can't get a heart transplant here because you don't have
Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen vaccine for a child, a child whose
Speaker 1: risk of COVID nineteen death is so slim it's almost zero.
Speaker 3: I want to know, you know, how much money are
Speaker 3: they getting from the government to push the vaccine or
Speaker 3: from Fizer Orderna. I want to I want to know
Speaker 3: those numbers before you can deny a herd transplant. Be
Speaker 3: transparent about your finances, and then make that decision on air.
Speaker 3: Let's see what Let's see what that settles the news.
Speaker 3: But you know that that goes back to the point
Speaker 3: about you. You know, I will not treat you unless
Speaker 3: you have this vaccine that seems on many levels to
Speaker 3: violate the hippocratic gowth do no harm. We now know,
Speaker 3: and I think I can say safely given all the
Speaker 3: studies that have been done, it does come with risks.
Speaker 3: Everything you put in your body, whether it's a pharmaceutical
Speaker 3: advertised on you know, Wheel of Fortune or the COVID
Speaker 3: nineteen vacs, there's risks associated with it and you can
Speaker 3: read them and if I want to say no, you
Speaker 3: know what, on a cost benefit analysis, I am a
Speaker 3: little more concerned about the risks than I am about
Speaker 3: getting COVID, So I choose not to get the vaccine
Speaker 3: that prevents you from getting all other medical care, right.
Speaker 3: I mean, if doctors are saying to know, you have
Speaker 3: to do the vaccine in order for you to prevent
Speaker 3: an outbreak among the community, well, okay, why aren't you
Speaker 3: talking about and saying that's an out break, that's a problem.
Speaker 2: People are dying from that.
Speaker 1: So but this so called vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting.
Speaker 2: COVID or spread at COVID exactly. So you can't even
Speaker 2: make that argument from a logic and reads.
Speaker 3: The standpoint, And the science is out there. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's peer reviews studies showing that it did not work.
Speaker 2: But you know, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Well, the key point is that the relationship with your
Speaker 4: doctor is probably one of the more. Between doctor and
Speaker 4: patient and husband and wife, those are about the two
Speaker 4: most important relationships you're ever going to have. And if
Speaker 4: if your doctor is looking at you and saying I'm
Speaker 4: going to fire you if you don't do what I'm
Speaker 4: telling you, I'm going to divorce you. I'm going to
Speaker 4: divorce you. One of the books we read was Lies
Speaker 4: my Doctor Told Me, written by a doctor, and the
Speaker 4: whole idea in the book is if your doctor says
Speaker 4: something like that, you should run from the office because
Speaker 4: it should be a conversation. Chris said, exactly, divorce your
Speaker 4: doctor before he or she divorced. So if he wants
Speaker 4: to talk to you about getting the COVID vaccine versus
Speaker 4: you know, my argument was, I don't get the flu
Speaker 4: in the first place usually, and if COVID is just
Speaker 4: another form of the flu, why do I care if
Speaker 4: I get covid? And indeed, I've had it four or
Speaker 4: five times and it's just a bad cough for me.
Speaker 4: That's all I get out of it. But in exchange,
Speaker 4: he's going to say, Okay, I'm not going to treat
Speaker 4: you for anything else because you didn't get the COVID vaccine,
Speaker 4: or in the case of children, so I'm not going
Speaker 4: to help your child unless you give this child, who
Speaker 4: has a zero probability of getting any problems from COVID.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to give them a heart transplant because
Speaker 4: you won't do whatever're telling you to do. That just
Speaker 4: seems to be a one way communication, not based on facts.
Speaker 4: We need to get this whole idea that it is
Speaker 4: an exchange of information between patient and doctor instead of
Speaker 4: this one way you do what I tell you or
Speaker 4: I'm going to get rid of you.
Speaker 2: That just seems to really.
Speaker 3: Just document, you know, educated to patient to patient decline
Speaker 3: vaccines and they move on to the next conversation. But
Speaker 3: instead it's threatening, I'm going to fire you, and next thing,
Speaker 3: you know, what's what's what's the what's that doctor really saying?
Speaker 3: The doctor is saying, you are preventing me from making
Speaker 3: extra money that it could be making from these vaccines.
Speaker 3: I could put another person in your spot and make
Speaker 3: money off of them.
Speaker 2: That's kind of what the that's that's what the narrative
Speaker 2: is being said.
Speaker 1: It certainly can lead one to draw that conclusion, and
Speaker 1: to me, that's enough. The suspicion in the room at least,
Speaker 1: the stension the air. It really it really truly does
Speaker 1: and I find that really, honestly quite offensive. And again
Speaker 1: I would argue it violence the hipocratic oath of do no.
Speaker 3: Harm, and my advice to the large corporations that are
Speaker 3: pushing this is you know what, let the patient make
Speaker 3: that decision. Don't don't be the person that's gonna send
Speaker 3: that narrative out because you're just going to do your
Speaker 3: patient's harm.
Speaker 4: And the key here is we're not talking about it
Speaker 4: from the perspective of you know, you should you should
Speaker 4: confront your physician. I mean, you got to think it
Speaker 4: from his perspective. He's getting pressure to do certain things.
Speaker 4: And so the the whole goal of this is by
Speaker 4: getting this information out there, it frees both sides. They
Speaker 4: have a conversation exactly. If your doctor's aware that people
Speaker 4: are talking about this, he may be more free to
Speaker 4: deviate from what he's being told to do or she's
Speaker 4: being told to do by the people in charge of them.
Speaker 4: I think it's going to help both ways, spreading more information,
Speaker 4: getting the information out there so we can engage in
Speaker 4: these informed discussions. We'll continue with Keith Tennefeld and George
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Speaker 1: Six fifty one fifty five KRCD talk station, shout out
Speaker 1: Ed Grant, I understand you're listening to the program right now.
Speaker 1: Keith Ennefeld, a nurse practitioner and studio with George Brownman.
Speaker 1: We're talking health, and Ed apparently listens to the show
Speaker 1: and he's a faithful listener. So Ed, thank you very
Speaker 1: much on the bottom of my heart for tuning into
Speaker 1: the program, and thank you George and Keith for showing
Speaker 1: up to talk about Restore Wellness dot org and kind
Speaker 1: of some of the things we should be focusing on
Speaker 1: our health. Getting more information. Maybe you know, maybe RFK
Speaker 1: Junior will literally do something about that. And that's been
Speaker 1: my one key hope, is that having him in that position,
Speaker 1: in spite of how looney a lot of people think
Speaker 1: he is, will at least endeavor to get us what
Speaker 1: we need to know to help us make better decisions
Speaker 1: about our lives, whether we choose to make those decisions
Speaker 1: or not. Nobody's going to hold a gun to your
Speaker 1: head and tell you can't drink a twenty four ounce
Speaker 1: or a sixty four ounce mountain dew, as bad as
Speaker 1: that is for you. As long as people know and
Speaker 1: understand it's got a full cup of sugar in it.
Speaker 1: Would you drink eat a full cup of sugar if
Speaker 1: it was sitting in front of you? So you know
Speaker 1: stuff like that, just and knowing about vaccines and knowing
Speaker 1: about the risk associated with him.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, get it if you want.
Speaker 1: But as long as you've got all the information to
Speaker 1: make that decision, that to me is the critical component
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: So and getting ahead of illness.
Speaker 1: Before it actually really the key, the key, and that's
Speaker 1: what Restore Wellness dot org is all about. Help you
Speaker 1: make informed decisions. And that's exactly what Keith does every
Speaker 1: single day with his with his practice. Now you have
Speaker 1: a is it a regular clinic that you run, Keith, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll put you can put a word in for it.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna no, It's fine. We're at root Cause
Speaker 1: in Harrison, Ohio.
Speaker 2: Root Cause. Okay, you got all kinds of ideas.
Speaker 1: People may be interested in finding out more about you,
Speaker 1: So I wanted to let you let you do that,
Speaker 1: so without further too, I know we have a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes left, and George wanted to deviate over to
Speaker 1: Restore Liberty dot Us, which is your political website.
Speaker 4: The vet at the farm. So we have an event
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Speaker 4: about taxes, the fact that we want to make the
Speaker 4: what they call the Trump taxes, make those recomments permanent,
Speaker 4: not just kick the can another four years.
Speaker 2: Let's make them permanent.
Speaker 4: So we'll be doing a podcast with Donovan one, you
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Speaker 4: coming up is a vike Ramaswami's got his big announcement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on Monday next week.
Speaker 1: He's really looking forward to his paperwork in to run
Speaker 1: for governor of the state of Ohio. Wouldn't it be
Speaker 1: great to have it like a transformational figure in charge
Speaker 1: of Ohio, unlike what we've got right now with this
Speaker 1: rhino dweeb up there. But I have you know I can't,
Speaker 1: I have just truck her with a wuhu. You know, honestly,
Speaker 1: and I've been doing this show for this is my
Speaker 1: nineteenth year in radio. But the entire time Governor of
Speaker 1: Wine has been governor, and most notably during COVID with
Speaker 1: the whole ridiculous idea about you can't drink after my
Speaker 1: favorite example, you can't drink in a bar after ten pm.
Speaker 2: You can stay there, but you can't drink, and you've.
Speaker 4: Got to have your mask on if you're standing up
Speaker 4: and not sitting, not sitting down, or you know, I
Speaker 4: just yeah, I don't see Vevike making those kinds of
Speaker 4: super things, but I have I have yet to really honestly,
Speaker 4: and no one has ever out loud said no, I
Speaker 4: really think Dwine's doing a great job.
Speaker 1: He's a Republican, But then again, Columbus is filled with
Speaker 1: dysfunctional Republicans like hurting cats up there. You wonder, like,
Speaker 1: don't they have a unified message in any way, shape
Speaker 1: or forming. The answer is absolutely no, they don't know.
Speaker 4: I think having a totally different kind of candidate for
Speaker 4: governor would be amazing.
Speaker 2: So the vague events on Monday.
Speaker 4: The other thing I want to throw out there is
Speaker 4: we've got a candidate trying to get on the ballad
Speaker 4: for mayor and since that, Corey Bowman, Yeah, I talked
Speaker 4: to him. Yeah, go to King's Arms coffee shop if
Speaker 4: you want to sign his petition. I understand he's coming
Speaker 4: up a little low right now, so we got to
Speaker 4: get him those last few signatures before tomorrow. I think
Speaker 4: the dead line's actually going to say. I knew the
Speaker 4: deadline was coming up. Yeah, so he wrote, Cory Bowman
Speaker 4: not even getting a thousand signatures, that's the way it's looking,
Speaker 4: so we need to help. I think again, he's someone
Speaker 4: with a different view. We've had the Democrats running downtown
Speaker 4: for years. It would be great to have this pastor
Speaker 4: that's got a real intense love for the city, for
Speaker 4: the West End.
Speaker 1: I think that I was impressed by his passion for
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: So yeah, anything you can do, and you can check
Speaker 4: this out Restore Wellness or store wellness dot org for
Speaker 4: all the information on health and Restore Liberty dot us
Speaker 4: for the political stuff. I hope to see at the
Speaker 4: farm next Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Keith Tenfeld, George Brunneman, it's been a real pleasure having
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Speaker 2: I enjoyed these conversations.
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