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<v Speaker 1>The Upper Room presents So you want to Stay married?

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<v Speaker 1>Today's episode in this study of family life in the

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<v Speaker 1>modern home is Two Heads Are Better Than One, Especially

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<v Speaker 1>written and produced for The Upper Room by Cardony Morse,

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<v Speaker 1>featuring John McIntyre as the Judge, Peggy Webber as Ruth,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sam Edwards as Gordon. In every city of any

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<v Speaker 1>size in the United States, there are one or more

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<v Speaker 1>courts of justice whose time is almost completely taken up

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<v Speaker 1>with dissolving unhappy marriages. The appalling tragedies stalking these miserable

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<v Speaker 1>halls can be counted among society's foremost crimes against individual

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<v Speaker 1>human beings. Into the divorce courts stream an unending flow

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<v Speaker 1>of frustrated, unhappy men and women, and out of the

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<v Speaker 1>divorce court come aimless, hopeless, lost humanity now completely adrift.

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<v Speaker 1>How many of those unhappy marriages could have been saved

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<v Speaker 1>if only there had been some understanding, sympathetic man of

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<v Speaker 1>sufficient stature and experience to take the dissatisfied young couple

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<v Speaker 1>in hand, a man such as Judge Hardwick, for instance.

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<v Speaker 2>Er Ruth and Gordon mcnight. Yes, yes, your honor, you

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<v Speaker 2>came here to this court this morning to have your

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<v Speaker 2>marriage dissolved. Yes, Ruth, you both desire this divorce a no, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>just ruth Er Ruth. I see your complaint. Charges incompatibility yes,

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<v Speaker 2>your honor, not cruelty?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, say never?

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<v Speaker 2>They were not unfaithfulness, no, of course, not just plain incompatibility. Yes, Ruth,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see you in gordon My private chambers.

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<v Speaker 2>Theyll have courts adjourned for half an hour.

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<v Speaker 3>This way, but it's all settled this way.

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<v Speaker 2>Please inside, Please place is down, Judge.

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<v Speaker 4>As much as I don't want Ruth to divorce me,

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<v Speaker 4>I think she's got the right to do it, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't see why we have to go through another

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<v Speaker 4>painful scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Sit down, Gordon. Yes, sir, Ruth. Inasmuch as you're the

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<v Speaker 2>plaintiff in this divorce action, I'm going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you the questions in what manner is Gordon's in

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<v Speaker 2>your life incompatible?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just bored to death. Marriage isn't the kind of

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<v Speaker 3>thing I thought it was at all. I'm well, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just bored, that's all. I'll go crazy if I have

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<v Speaker 3>to stand much more of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you love him anymore? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what is love?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's put it this way. Don't you like him anymore?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Most of the time. That's one of the reasons I

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<v Speaker 3>want to be divorced. There's nothing the matter with Gordon,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I don't want to dislike him. But there

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<v Speaker 3>are times when I can't stand him, and those times

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<v Speaker 3>come oftener and oftener. But I don't look out. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>turn out hating him, and that'd be awful.

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<v Speaker 4>Judge, Is this necessary?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so, Yes, sir. Don't you have anything to

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<v Speaker 2>say against Ruth's accusations.

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<v Speaker 4>We've talked to all this out endlessly. I've told her

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<v Speaker 4>over and over that I love her, and I've tried

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<v Speaker 4>to prove it by my actions. I've done everything I know,

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<v Speaker 4>and it makes no difference. At first, Ruth didn't seem

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<v Speaker 4>to want my company. Now she wants her freedom. It's

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<v Speaker 4>been a progressive thing and it's something in Ruth. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sorry and hurt and feel terribly frustrated, But Ruth's an individual,

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<v Speaker 4>and if she feels that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I see always the gentleman I only met. Yes, I know, Gordon, Ruth.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me what an ordinary day in your home is like.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, naturally, Gordon has a long commute into the city

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning. He has to get up at five

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<v Speaker 3>thirty except Saturday and Sunday. Well except Sunday, because Saturday

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<v Speaker 3>gets up just as early to go out and play golf.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll get up and get his breakfast five thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Besides, the doctor has him on a diet, and all

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<v Speaker 3>he can eat is a dish of fruit and toast

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<v Speaker 3>and coffee.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's not Ruth's faultier, honor. I have my own

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<v Speaker 4>business in town, and I like that hour in the

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<v Speaker 4>morning by myself to think out some of my business

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<v Speaker 4>problems and look at the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Paper I see, and then how does your day go? Ruth?

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<v Speaker 3>Mm mmm, get up when I feel like it.

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<v Speaker 2>No children, of course.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, we decided we couldn't afford children while I'm

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<v Speaker 4>getting my business going. It takes every.

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<v Speaker 2>Se wanned Ruth to tell this, Gordon, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Well as I say, there's no reason why I should

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<v Speaker 3>get up at any particular time. It makes the day

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<v Speaker 3>go faster. If I don't get up until ten or.

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<v Speaker 2>Eleven, What a terrible thought. I don't understand lying in

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<v Speaker 2>bed late to make the days go faster. Why, my

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<v Speaker 2>dear child, I rise at five o'clock some morning, just

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<v Speaker 2>to make the days long enough to do all the

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<v Speaker 2>interesting things in the world I wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>But you have responsibility, do you? So?

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<v Speaker 2>Does every wife keep the.

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<v Speaker 3>House clean, get dinner. I can do that in an hour,

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<v Speaker 3>send out all our laundry and pressing, things like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and a cleaning woman comes in twice a week.

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<v Speaker 2>If your husband needs extra money to get his business started,

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<v Speaker 2>why not do those things yourself?

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<v Speaker 4>Why should she? My wife's not an old fashioned house drudge.

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<v Speaker 4>She's a good looking girl with nice hands and a

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<v Speaker 4>nice complexion.

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<v Speaker 2>But if your husband can afford a cleaning woman and

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<v Speaker 2>arrange your living so that you can keep your nice

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<v Speaker 2>hands and complexion, and I might add have your hair

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<v Speaker 2>done by a beauty parlor, then why can't you afford

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<v Speaker 2>to have children?

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<v Speaker 4>They added, expense is expensive selfishness.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that is really Gordon thought, if we waited

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years, then we'd be able to give

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<v Speaker 3>the children everything they should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you want to wait?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thought, maybe Gordon? You best he handled the money.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the only one who knows about the business.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the minute you say he handles the money. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you mean to sit here and tell me that you.

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<v Speaker 2>You say he's the only one who knows about the business.

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<v Speaker 2>The business you're helping him to build by your sacrifices,

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<v Speaker 2>by going without children, by doing without his companionship from

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<v Speaker 2>five thirty in the morning until whatever hour he gets

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<v Speaker 2>home in the evening. Six You don't know anything about

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<v Speaker 2>the business. It's supposed to be the foundation for your

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<v Speaker 2>future financial security and the security of your children. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>the man talk to you now just a minute? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it, Gordon, what do you and your wife have

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<v Speaker 2>in common? According to Ruth, you spend even your Saturdays

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<v Speaker 2>on the golf course. What about Sunday? Do you spend

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<v Speaker 2>that with her?

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<v Speaker 4>Some of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Some of it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, she likes to go to church. That gives me

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<v Speaker 4>a good opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Good opportunity not to be with us some more.

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<v Speaker 4>Now look here, you, I mean your honor. If you're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to make it look like I don't care for Ruth.

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<v Speaker 2>Hither you don't care for her or else you have

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<v Speaker 2>a most peculiar conception of what marriage consists.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see how you can say it's Gordon anymore

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<v Speaker 3>than me said Gordon's faul. He has to go to

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<v Speaker 3>the office at five point thirty. Is it his fault

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<v Speaker 3>we haven't money enough for children? Or that he likes

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<v Speaker 3>outdoor sports and I don't, or that I like to

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<v Speaker 3>go to church and he doesn't. And it certainly is

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<v Speaker 3>not his fault that I'm not very good about money

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<v Speaker 3>and honestly wouldn't know what he was talking about if

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<v Speaker 3>he were to tell me about the office.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you know you wouldn't understand if you ever

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<v Speaker 2>tried it, oh, Gordon said? As Gordon said, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>understand money or the office, and you believed it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think she would. And why clutter up a

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<v Speaker 4>woman's mind with such things anyway, Gordon?

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't you ever hear of the Indian fakir who held

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<v Speaker 2>his arm over his head until finally it grew that

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<v Speaker 2>way and he couldn't take it down. Yes, sir, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the mind can be abused in the same way. Looks

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<v Speaker 2>to me like you consciously or unconsciously molded Ruth's mind

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<v Speaker 2>to fit your conception of what a wife should know

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<v Speaker 2>and be.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Aren't you trying to pattern your Mariae Marge after your

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<v Speaker 2>father and mother's marriage. Why I wasn't your father the

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<v Speaker 2>dominating male and your mother the weak, protected woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's exactly the way it was, Judge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I suppose so, and so unconsciously at least, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>giving you the benefit of the doubt. You've been trying

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<v Speaker 2>to mold Ruth into the same kind of a family.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably your father likewise said there she would be no

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<v Speaker 2>children until he was a man with money.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they had been married fifteen years before I was born.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Gordon, don't you see that's mid Victorian. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>the way family life has lived to day. Ruth's a modern,

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<v Speaker 2>intelligent girl, a companion, a helpmate. She's been bred and

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<v Speaker 2>trained to stand beside a man, do her part. I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder she's been bored to distraction by the role you've

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<v Speaker 2>given her to live.

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<v Speaker 4>But Ruth, you never protested, you never said that you.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess. I guess I didn't quite realize what was

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<v Speaker 3>going on myself. After all, your mother always agreed what

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<v Speaker 3>your father said and didn't ask questions, And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>remember my own mother, Gordon. Maybe I could understand about

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<v Speaker 3>what you do at the office, maybe not right at first,

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<v Speaker 3>but I not in.

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<v Speaker 2>Our Ruth, Gordon. I have a feeling that whether this

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<v Speaker 2>marriage succeeds or fails from this point on depends on you.

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<v Speaker 4>You mean Ruth isn't getting a divorce? You mean that, Ruth?

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<v Speaker 3>What why I hadn't thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Now to wait just a moment? I'd so fast?

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<v Speaker 3>You too.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a few fundamentals about marriage of which neither

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<v Speaker 2>of you seem to have any knowledge. It's been found

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<v Speaker 2>throughout long periods of study by competent people that our

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<v Speaker 2>attitude toward marriage, the expectation of success, is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the strongest motives for keeping a man and woman interested

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<v Speaker 2>in making their marriage successful together. Mind you, the hope

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<v Speaker 2>of success, the expectation of success. It's a common goal,

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<v Speaker 2>a common interest. It gives zest to living, don't you see, Gordon,

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<v Speaker 2>You've been depriving Ruth of much of her interest in

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<v Speaker 2>living by shutting her out. It never occurred to me that, I,

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<v Speaker 2>of course noer. But think about it now, and don't

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<v Speaker 2>neglect children. They're a common interest too. Children and a

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<v Speaker 2>common working goal are two elements which bind a man

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<v Speaker 2>and woman close together. There's so many problems to be

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<v Speaker 2>worked out, so many solutions they've got to find together, Gordon,

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<v Speaker 2>Many many of your problems at the office would dissolve

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<v Speaker 2>into nothing if you were to tell them to Ruth

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<v Speaker 2>just in the telling will bring balm to your spirit,

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<v Speaker 2>even if there isn't a solution.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Gordon, would you?

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<v Speaker 4>Could you? I I don't see why not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you really think you'd be interested, of course, but I

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<v Speaker 4>never thought of you as interested in business and figure.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not the figures I'd be interested in. It'd be

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<v Speaker 3>you what you'd do with those figures, what they mean

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<v Speaker 3>to you and me.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you mean you don't want a divorce.

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<v Speaker 3>We can do it this new way, and if you'll

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<v Speaker 3>let me do all the houseworks that we can have

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<v Speaker 3>the children.

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<v Speaker 4>You mean you want to do things that you don't

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<v Speaker 4>care if we have a hard time financially or.

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<v Speaker 3>About anything, if I'm a part of it. But Gordon Darling,

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<v Speaker 3>don't ever put me away in a box again, or

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<v Speaker 3>put me on a pedestal or whatever you were doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a living, breathing human girl, and I've got a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of red corpuscles in my bloodstream, and I want

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<v Speaker 3>to be somebody and do things and feel things. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to love and be loved. I want to fight

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<v Speaker 3>and win or lose and do all the other things

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<v Speaker 3>women do with their husbands all over the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Why not? I must have been blind.

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<v Speaker 3>What an empty lonesome world if I'd have gone out

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<v Speaker 3>of here with a divorce.

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<v Speaker 4>You're telling me your honor?

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<v Speaker 1>We owe you that.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, where'd he go?

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<v Speaker 3>You must have slipped out?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, bless his kind, understanding heart. I tell you what

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<v Speaker 4>we'll do. We'll name our first son after him.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes.

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<v Speaker 1>If the family ties are uncertain and giving way, family

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<v Speaker 1>worship will help to strengthen them. Worship in the church

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<v Speaker 1>of your choice, and have daily devotions in your home.

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<v Speaker 1>The church and the home are the basic rocks upon

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<v Speaker 1>which the moral structure of this nation is built. They

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<v Speaker 1>should be and must be, one united foundation. Ask your

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<v Speaker 1>pastor for devotional helps or send a postcard to the

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<v Speaker 1>Upper Room, Nashville, Tennessee your announcer, Russell Thorson